/swg/ - Empire on Ice Edition

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Ok, so. Here's my situation.

I am running an EOTE game for a few friends, and so far it's been your classical smuggling sort of business of dashing rogues and hard fights. They started out working for Jabba, but on good terms, sort of in the same sense of respect that Boba might have, but not quite that level. But still, Jabba respects them for their work and thinks they're useful so he'd rather keep them around. Their first session was them stealing the yacht he later uses in ROTJ, more of a gag thing to get the campaign going more than anything else.

Now, my players have started to become interested in joining the Rebellion, and are considering trying to cut their ties with Jabba. Now, Jabba likes them for what they're worth, but I made it abundantly clear that one does not simply leave Jabba's service if he wants to keep you. They have an idea of offering him a deal and a sort of "one mission to end all missions" John Wick style.

So what are some crazy, nigh-impossible shit that I can throw at my players to challenge them? I don't want to necessarily stop them from doing what they want, but at the same time I don't want them to get off easy.

>>51710144
Races:

Clawdite +1 Cunning -1 Willpower, 1 rank in resilience, changeling (spend strain to shapeshift ability)

Devaronian: +1 Cunning -1 Presence, 1 rank in survival or Deception, Auto success in resilience.

Kallerian: +1 Brawn -1 Presence 1 rank of streetwise, start with heightened awareness.

>>51712024
Maybe have them take out another Hutt in a neighboring system for Jabba? One with all the similar equipment and protection and enforcers that Jabba has. They have to go up against all that and bring the house down, they maybe they can walk free. ...and maybe Jabba becomes worried about their ability to demolish another Hutt wholesale and sends another team of bounty hunters after them. Have them kill him and run, cutting ties and maybe a small group obligation for the whole process.

Just a thought, pulling shit out my ass honestly.

>>51712092
>Have them kill him and run

You mean kill them, as in the hunters, right? Not actually killing Jabba?

>>51712129
Yes, sorry. Wasn't paying attention to my grammar!

>>51711855
Why is X-wing so slanted towards the Imperials?

They get the TIE swarm first. Then Phantoms and Decimators. Then a plethora of playable aces followed by Palpatine. And now they have x7 Defenders and just received Kylo Ren who looks to be one of the worst play experiences in the game to date.

>>51712256
Fuck off idiot rebel scum with your victim complex

Reasonably, how long should it take to get a capital ship (silhouette 5 and up) to get from completely shut down, to airborne? assuming that the ship has the minimum crew necessary to accomplish this?

was wondering because I had an Idea for an AoR plot involving the Alliance liberating a number of old Clone Wars ships & other equipment that was effectively left in a field until the Empire could find something to do with them, and the PC's would need to stall Imperial forces until the Alliance to get all the ships away, just wanted a rough idea of how long they'd actually have to stall said imperial forces.

>>51712359
A month probably longer.

>>51712256
Imperial theme is action economy and maneuvering.

Rebels is regen and ordinance.

Scum is supposed to be clutch disposable upgrades and exploiting opportunities ( it's actually about abusing broken, unplaytested ships).

Rookies try to play the Empires game and fail. Just strap turrets/ regen on bulky fat ships that are hard to chew through and whittle them down like you're suppose to and they will try to earn their victory by actually playing the game and flying well.

>>51712359
Hours to boot up and get the ship flying.

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>>51712434
>Rebels is regen and ordinance.
>and ordinance

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Getting ready for an Imperial Assault skirmish tournament. How's this list look?

>Deployment Cards
Bossk
Jabba the Hutt w/Indentured Jester
Onar Koma
Vinto Hreeda w/Prey on the Weak
elite Weequay Pirates
Weequay Pirates
Devious Scheme

>Command Cards
Assassinate
Blood Feud
Change of Plans
Draw!
Element of Surprise
Extra Protection
Fleet Footed
Heightened Reflexes
Negation
Opportunistic
Positioning Advantage
Primary Target
Smuggled Supplies
Take Initiative
Tools for the Job

>>51712521
Is Sabine not a card?

>>51712580
Sabine is every card

>>51712580
He's making fun of you for using the wrong synophone. Ordinance is for city rules. Ordnance is for explosives.

What would you acll essential, must-have purchases for characters in AoR within their first 1k creds past chargen?

>>51712713
>Sir! We can't handle this new Rebel ordinance!

>Damn! This ship's liquor license was supposed to be invulnerable! Why didn't Lord Vader speak to the zoning committee?

>>51712744
Slicer gear, lockpicks, comlinks, glow rods, synthrope, tool kit, spare restraining bolt.

I also think grabbing the parts for a monotask droid to give you skilled assistance with something you have lots of green but no yellow for is pretty nice.

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>>51712359
>to get from completely shut down, to airborne?
How completely shut down are you talking about? Lacking crew, fuel, and launch codes; or fully stripped hulls?

>>51712713
Oh so he's not retarded, just a prick.

Good to know.

>>51712907
well, not fully stripped, a bit weathered, but still operational. Alliance will provide skeleton crews for all the ships, so that's not an issue.

so lets assume that they have slicers to bypass the launch codes given enough time, and they will bring with them enough fuel to get the ship's out of the system and to a "safe harbor" to fully stock them, right now it's just a matter of getting them away from this particular system.

>>51712964
Who know, maybe by bullying you he'll keep you from making the same embarrassing mistake in the future!

>>51713017
It doesn't work like that, it never works like that!

>>51712256
To me, Kylo was just to give them incentive to be weened away from Palpatine.
It wont work, but it's nice in theory.

Kylo is only situationally powerful but in those situations he is much more valuable. The problem is people don't build lists to counter specific strategies, people refine for the best of all possible outcomes and Palpatine minimizes risk.

>>51713003
It would almost certainly take days or weeks to get them back into condition to even lift off. Having the empire show up only a few minutes or hours before they're done is dramatically appropriate, though

>>51713003
Well if you're just robbing ships from starport hangers expect an hour or so with launch codes and a skeleton crew to refuel the ships. Without launch codes and some seriously talented engineers about half a day to bypass the systems that have military grade encryptions.

I'd be more worried about the local garrison shooting the ships down with anti air emplacements that are supposed to have planned for this kind of raid to happen.

If your PCs are going to attempt a smash and grab raid have at least one session dedicated to scouting the spaceport, getting the launch codes, and sabotaging the AA otherwise I don't see any of those ships getting spaceborn before Imperial Star Destroyers show up.

How about something with more subtlety? Have the alliance skeleton crew pose as contractors that are supposed to be maintaining or mothballing the ships to infiltrate/as a cover for why they are working on a fleet of ships at the behest of some Imperial burecrat Planetary Governor or Moff.

>>51713003

I mean, if nothing is broken - assume minutes or hours on a cold start. While as a space opera SW can be a little more pulpy you're still firing up power generators and engines and what not. Reactors will need to start generating power and build it up to the right level to actually turn all the parts on. If you don't mind a jury rig, you might say, dump the power which would normally go into shields or sensors or something into engines right from the start, but, y'know.

Days or weeks of prep time might be needed if things need fixing, fuel wasn't kept up, batteries lost charge, etc. You can probably cut time off the actual launching if during the recovery process stuff like backup power has been maintained, you've already pre-started the power supply just haven't fired everything up before, etc. In TFA the Falcon goes from a tarp covered freighter in a field to full throttle in a few minutes of time - but Unkar probably keeps the batteries and fuel tanks topped up whenever it needs work - and it's not as large as something like a Pelta or a Consular.

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>>51712359
Depends how old and long its been there really.
Lot of boneyard vehicles tend to have a lot of their sensitive components taken out to be stored elsewhere to minimise the effects of the elements on them and leaving stuff plugged in has its own set of electrical-corrosion fuckery to contend with. So stuff like computers, life support, maybe even engines in some cases could be stuck in a warehouse somewhere that would mean major amounts of work.

Best plan would be a set of faked commissioning documents, uniforms, IDs and basically 'look like they should be there' -slicers and bullshit artists with lots of skulduggery are a must along with very good mechanics
Course, that leaves the violence careers, for them aside from picking up heavy things and putting them down again, if the enemy has some sort of explody distraction which draws them away from where you are, that might mean not being chased by TIE's or running into a customs vessel (or worse, the Imp Navy) in a flying shit heap that has fuck all crew and most of its stuff not working

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>>51713882
Seconding this.

>>51713974
Poor old Floggers, there's a lot of them used as landfill over there.

Did we ever have a random ship quirk or history table or something? I feel like that's a thing I've seen around before.

>>51714672
There have been general ones floated on /tg/ before, but I'm not sure if I've seen one star wars specific.

There are also these sorts of threads in the archive. http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?searchall=shitty+spaceship+quirk

>>51714672
Not really. I might try to throw one together during my traditional V-day bender tomorrow, though

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>>51712024
>A life debt is a terrible thing to have over your head
Perhapse if they save jaba from some other hutt or an assasin from tyber zahn or something they can be granted one gift or something according their freedom.

You could keep the movie references running and have them perform the BIG one, the full load raw/uncut kessel run for jaba, even throw in that the "rockslug solo and his chutta wookie couldnt do this one, even with that ship of theirs" and its a great way to also create some imperial entanglments for them to use as credentials to get into the rebellion.

I dont know about your players to see if they would be up for that, but any hot shot correllian pilot with a chip on their shoulder is going to jump at a chance to beat the 'illustrious han solo, hero of the first deathstar'

Also there is the old fall back of: run like hell, and hope he never catches up with you.

>>51712024
Send them on a crazy as fuck suicide mission, maybe kill another hutt like the other anon suggested.

They succeed, and now the entire Hutt society is after them... Except for Jabba, who offers to cover their tracks.
In exchange for a favor, of course.
You see where I'm going with this?

https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v4!t!99:100,-1,95,218,-1,-1:-1:14:;179:219,-1:-1:-1:;184:-1:-1:-1:;184:-1:-1:-1:;184:-1:-1:-1:;71:18,144,-1:34:17:;18:-1:-1:-1:;152:12:-1:-1:&sn=Unnamed%20Squadron

My local X-Wing group is considering moving to 200 as our standard game size and this looks fun. I've gotten much better results with /fos than regular TIEs lately, and I own more, so I'm sticking with them.

>>51715643
>200 standard game size

Interesting. How big playfields are you using? Do games take a lot mor time?

>>51715684
We're actually still in the discussion phase right now. Planning to try it out for the first time on Thursday. Also unclear if we should include Epic ships. On the one hand, a lot of us have them, and they're fun, but they might imbalance things in favor of whoever has them.

>>51715384
So we're some kind of Suicide Squad?

>>51715750
The way I heard it, not using huge ships tend to work out in peoples favor generally, although I don't have enough experience with Epic to confirm this.

>>51713031
Naw, it works like that. That very reason is why I nevre make spelling or grammer mistake.

>>51715803
From my experience with fullsize epic, they tend to speed things up immensely just because there's so many points, but also give a huge advantage to whoever has them because they're so powerful and can regen. Probably best to agree no epic unless both players bring one.

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What outside sources do you use for inspiration for characters/aliens and etc. I really like Samurai Jack which I feel was inspired alot by Star Wars. Pic related is the assassin droid character I am going to use for an upcoming campaign.

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>>51716198
This is for you.

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>>51716198
My desires are...unconventional.

>>51716236
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-YZ8WOU1-w
Well, this goes on the list of Things I Didn't Know I Needed.

>>51716236
>action packed action
>and his bird
>space oppossums
>on the rocks, giant flying ice tray

What the fuck is this? It looks a lot like buckaroo bonzai and other cult classic scifi. Ive only seen the poster, but im already imagining an MST3K episode for this.

>>51716308
>>51716330
You don't even know.

There's a world of Star Wars ripoffs ripe for the taking.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzfuNSpP0RA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksJTPdNNQB4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCC_gApHx74

https://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_458899&feature=iv&src_vid=x8UZ2WfLG70&v=sI--wexYerI

>>51716414
>not posting this gem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vC4v979_fQk

>>51716443
Oh shit, I need this.

>>51716501
yes you do

>>51716414
>>51716443
This is amazing. I knew about the 80's large amount of shitty B-Fantasy, somehow I never realized there would also be SW cash-ins.

>>51716547
You've taken your first step into a larger world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzFwECV8Kkk

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>>51716198
The WWE is always a good source of character inspiration.

>>51716570
When I first saw that movie I could never have guessed that it was actually younger than Star Wars (ANH).

>>51716570
Oh, so THAT'S what Lor San Tekka's backstory is.

>>51716570
the 2 female leads in Flash Gordon make me feel funny. Like climbing the rope in gym class.

>>51716236
Isn't this the movie where they reach into the closet and find the script supervisor to read lines to them?

Or was that the Time Bandits?

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How do we stat this?

Entertainer droid? Assassin droid? Both?

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>>51712256
My guess?
Imperial players are more profitable.

>>51716914
Bonus against unaware targets

>>51716914
Ain't that some shit.

>>51716570
It's a funny day when someone calls Flash Gordon a shitty off-brand Star Wars.

Star Wars was George Lucas' shitty off-brand reaction to not getting the license to make a Flash Gordon movie.

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>>51716547
What do you think Battlestar Galactica was?

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>>51716414
>There's a world of Star Wars ripoffs ripe for the taking.

Oh they made so many that went straight to vhs that never saw the light of a cinema, so they're the rare pepe's of film now.

>>51716964
Kind of to be expected, with cheaper ships people are more likely to be fielding multiples of them and thus needing to buy multiples while rebels are set with one of most things.

>>51717094
What's funny is Lucas couldn't get the rights from De Laurentiis so he made Star Wars, and after its success, De Laurentiis went "hey we gotta this-a here comic strip property, let's make a comedy like in-a the funny books."

And a weird cult classic was born.

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>>51717140
Not just VHS, either. Chris Roberts took that shit to PC and brought Mark Hamill himself in for the ride.

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>>51716680
It's pretty amazing.

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>>51715260
Tell me of your traditions, Shipfag.

>>51717147
And then we got another cult classic ABOUT that cult classic, in the form of TED.

>>51717292
And in 1974 we got the porn parody as a PREQUEL to all of those!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNuk_boPD8Q

>>51717201
Funny thing is, WC games are great and probably one of the first 'blockbuster' PC games which where hugely popular.
They also made the Wing Commander movie while snorting all those profits, which is quite terrible

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>>51716198
Yeah Samurai Jack is pretty damn great

>>51716547
I remember a movie I rented from Blockbuster called Armageddon that showed modified Y-Wing and A-Wing models on the cover.
It was a shitty, shitty, z-grade movie and didn't even have those bastardized Star Wars models in it. But I can't find any record if its existence online.

>>51717288
It's pretty simple. I'm getting drunk and staying drunk all damn day

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>>51716570
Of course Brian Blessed was in that movie.

Of COURSE Brian Blessed wan in that movie.

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>>51717324
Christ, the movie was bad. They could have taken all the cutscenes in 3 and 4, thrown in some gameplay footage, and the resulting product would still have been infinitely better than the actual movie.

And now that we're talking about it, WC3 and 4 would have been fucking great as Episodes VII and VIII.

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>>51717415
Excellent.

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>>51717583
Be careful posting that! My speakers nearly shorted out.

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Speaking of the '70s, you could do worse than using this as the theme intro for a Star Wars group.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR2oct3zeTM

>>51717324
And even this song based on his games would be a great basis for a sympathetic EotE villain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1oF2C7iN_A

>>51717834
Blocked in my country on copyright grounds. For once, being in the US sucks.

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>>51718139
Aww balls.

See if you can find "Billy Thorpe - Children of the Sun" somewhere else then. Let me know what you think.

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Did the beer-and-pretzels anon who requested this generator ever post results?

Alternatively, anyone else want to roll up an Inquisitor?

If I hypothetically wanted to make an EotE adventure around the premise of "It's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World: A Star Wars Story", Would the promise of 4,000,000,000 credits to the first person to find it be enough to get the PC's attention, and maybe encourage some risk taking in getting it?

I'm working on a Corran/Biggs list, but I'm having trouble thinking of a third ship.
I have 30 points left. Should I give Corran Engine Upgrade and use Tarn Mison (with R7 and IA), or leave it off and use Jess Pava (with M9-G8 and either Autothrusters or Pattern Analyzer/IA)?

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>>51718337
4,000,000,000 credits isn't money. It's a motive with a universal adapter. EVERYONE will be after that kind of money.

And you don't want "It's a [Mad]4 World". You want "The Way of the Gun".

>>51718221
>Billy Thorpe - Children of the Sun
Sounds like a mixture of Rush and Led Zep. Not bad. Not my favorite, but not bad.

This is my go-to space opera theme song:

https://youtu.be/s98L6vgqStA

>>51718363
How about an HWK? You've already got Biggs to pull shots off it and using Jan to put Corran or Biggs to 4 attack or Kyle+Jan crew to hand Biggs evades is pretty great.

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>>51718395
For Star Wars though, if you're not going orchestral, you've got to have that '70s vibe. Waaaaay more twang and swish. More Flash Gordon and less Top Gun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7rOMGIbY-9s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFy35if7d_g

Not that these are nessesarily better, musically, but if you're going for "weird old school camp sci-fi", you've got to turn off the quality control portions of your brain sometimes.

>>51718484
Don't have one.

>>51718502
P-K4's always given me a good '70s-'80s SF vibe, especially the opening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiCVGIdW76g

>>51718502
Not power metal? Can't go wrong with Lord Weird Slough Feg. I know it's supposed to be about Traveller, but come on...

https://youtu.be/NiHpfugCboI

If we're talking '70s Star Wars music, there's only one track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKL-6rBkQN0

>>51718640
I can accept this.

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>>51718050
I think my favourite soundtrack to those games was-
https://www.discogs.com/Various-Wing-Commander-Prophecy-Original-Soundtrack/release/129521
Its like the who's who of 90's industrial metal

Cobalt-60 was sort of a side project of Front242 and put out some mad music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64O9Ekqvd9Q

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Any tips for running Force and Destiny for just two people? Normally my group is larger and I'm normally not GM, but only two friends are into Star Wars as much as me and they are adamant that I run it.

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>>51718866
Well, don't get all bent out of shape about it.

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>>51718866
I mean, nothing specific, other than the usual cautions: build diverse characters, use NPCs but don't let them overshadow the PCs, etc.

Why can't you find non-Star Wars friends? Is it the canon background level needed?

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>>51718502
>less Top Gun
Depends on the campaign.

>>51718866
USE THE FORCE

No, seriously it's great for plot hooks and character exposition

>>51711855
Sup /swg/, I need help coming up with some ideas. I'm trying to write up a 6-10 player campaign that uses both Imperial Assault and X-wing rules. The players would join as either Empire, Rebels, or Scum, and it would be a persistent campaign with missions that give bonuses for future missions. I'd like to have it culminate in a massive Epic X-wing game.

I am out of ideas both for plot for this campaign, and mission ideas.

Does anyone have any suggestions for a plot that would make sense to have Empire fighting Rebels with Scum on both sides?

Has anyone ran a campaign like this before?

>>51716414
FYI Battle Beyond the Stars in Seven Samurai in Space. It is unironically awesome, and deserves more than a roger corman budget.

>>51718962
>Does anyone have any suggestions for a plot that would make sense to have Empire fighting Rebels with Scum on both sides?

Imperial weapons facility wants to launch new prototype weapon and is testing on the outer rim.

Rebels learn of this and want to foil it, both sides get help from rival cartels because they are low on manpower and it's easy to bribe them with the riches that the facility possesses

>>51718962
Imps + Privateers versus Rebels + Smugglers Alliance

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>>51718962
There's tons of reasons for both sides of a conflict to hire scum/mercs.

Let's set this campaign in a single sector. A decently large one, with room to roam, but that keeps this idea working. I'll leave it up to you to figure out which one suits your preferences, but if I were you, I'd look for something that has noble houses.

The moff of this sector tries, he really does, but he's just not quite cut out for the Imperial style of governance. He inherited his position from his father when he passed, as head of his influential noble family. So he has wealth aplenty, but a few too many rebels have found his backwater an easy place to run and hide.

So now he's got a problem... and the solution is painfully clear. If his sector fleet can't handle it alone, he'll hire the mercenaries and Hutts and bounty hunters to add firepower to his arsenal.

Of course... once he starts doing that, it just ups the stakes for the rebels. And the easiest way to fight back? Make some high counter-offers for the best of the scum factions.

>>51719127
Oh and the climax can be the Imperials getting ready to use the fully functional weapon and defending it against the Rebels, while the Rebels lead an assault.

Call me JJ and slap my ass, it's not original but it works.

X-Wing stats for Missile Boat
Attack: 1
Defense: 2
Hull: 3*
Shields: 6*

* Supposedly, the Missile Boat was armored only about as well as most TIE fighters, but had greater shield strength than a B-Wing

Actions: Focus, Target Lock, SLAM
Dial approximation: K-Wing

Slots: Missile, Missile, Missile, Torpedo, Title*

*Title: Jamming Beam(0 pts)
Once per round, when you acquire a target lock on an unstressed enemy ship, assign that ship a stress token.

Title: Tractor Array(2 pts)
Once per round, when you acquire a target lock on an enemy ship, assign that ship a tractor beam token.

Cost: 24 pts for generic PS2 option, 29 pts for Maraak Steel at PS7 with an Elite slot. Other pilots and abilities as needed

>>51719127
>>51719165
>>51719159
My difficulty is finding a scenario that

- Is appropriately sized so that it culminates in a ~750 point X-wing game, but still has Imperial Assault skirmishes

- Takes long enough to have a couple distinct missions for everyone and have a sense of progression

- still feature Scum/have a couple of missions that reward the winner with Scum support in a future mission.

>>51719245
After the HWK, designers have said that any 1- die primary is a mistake. Go with 2 red.

>>51719300
I originally thought of representing its huge capacity by giving it the option of infinite missiles, settling the 1-die primary issue, but that would take either a third title(locking you out of your support options), a unique modification(locking you out of guidance ships), or a Missile Boat-only direct upgrade to Extra Munitions. Making it 2 red dice would make it playable though, I guess.

>>51719333
Another issue is that this thing is both

- Stapled to EM

- Needs FCS to keep fire up

- needs some way to discount missile costs to keep costs down. A ps2 missile boat costs 31 with Homing and EM, and that's fucking terrible. I would add a system, and either decrease the base cost drastically or reduce the cost of any equipped missiles.

>>51719389
X-Wing is just not a friendly game to munitions heavy gameplay...

>>51719275
1) IA will not have the scale you want no matter how hard you try. Keep those missions as lynchpins, important to how the bigger game plays out but intimate (like Cassian and Jyn's mission opposed to the people outside the base).

2) This just requires work on your side and being able to properly narrate the results of individual games

3) Scum have to pick a side, draw the line early on and stick to it. They can literally stand in for any Imperial or Rebel mission at your discretion.

Hey /swg/, for those of you who play X-Wing and repaint models, have you ever considered putting little symbols under the cockpit for each kill that ship has gotten?

I haven't the money or friends in the hobby to play it, but that idea of painting the models with little TIE Fighter kill markers is oddly compelling to me.

>>51719506
I figured that I would use IA missions for roughly 1/3rd of games, and they would be stuff like

- Rebel raid to sabotage a shipyard facility

Or the like.

I'm kinda new to Star Wars, so I'm wondering what kind of conflict would make sense to be mostly dogfights with intermittent ground skirmishes.

>>51719572
I did that for my Decimator. It got a tiny red marking for each kill.

It matches the Royal Guards and Glaives it flies with now

>>51719619
>>51719572
Along the same lines, anyone have little nose art?

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>>51719702

>>51719717
Fuck yeah.

>>51719717
In the thumbnail I thought that was Fozzi Bear, I need a drink.

>>51719800
Drink until he's attractive, Anon.

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>>51719800
>>51719781
Imagine finding out your ex has painted you on his ship.

>>51719861
Imagine finding out you've been painted on the nose of a ship you've never seen before, piloted by someone you've never met.

So you ask around, and it's the bounty hunter that's been chasing you.

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>>51719905
Dun dun duuuuuunnn!

>>51719905
stealing this, mate

>>51720008
Go for it.

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>>51719905
Oh man, you've heard of dopplegangers? They steal your shape and pretend to be you.

This is a dopplenemesis. It steals your enemy and pretends to be them. It infiltrates your history. It invents fictitious conflicts, fights that never happened, brushes with death that didn't occur. It convinces others until your history and their history become intertwined.

And then, when you do eventually have a final showdown, they steal your identity and start the process all over with someone else. It's how they breed.

>>51717324
And yet, the actors for Maverick in both the games and the movie have played Jedi in Star Wars media.

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>>51719702
I've done a N'dru headhunter and a Punisher Punisher.

>>51719578
>I'm wondering what kind of conflict would make sense to be mostly dogfights with intermittent ground skirmishes.

Literally all of Star Wars is built around these. Capital ships only really serve to drive the narrative.
You mostly have a tight group of plucky young adventurers, Imperial assassins and bounty hunters running from place to place the whole time with small sorties between.

>>51720137
Okay, stealing this, too.

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>>51720263
Nice.

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>>51720468
Excellent.

I might put a full writeup on my blog one of these days.

>>51713003
You could always say that they're ships about to be moved from the mothball facilities to the breakdown station.

Sneak aboard as part of the final maintenance crews, engage in slicing and mechanics for those party members, sneaking sround the ship removing other groups by trickery or force, and then hyping out to a nearby system where the rebellion is waiting.

You grab a couple successfully, before the breakdown facilities hypercomm to ask where those cap ships they were expecting to work on today are.

Then they have to either cut losses and run with what they have, or go for the largest ship which took the longest to get ready - something really nice, a good sized CW capital to really incentivise them.

If they go for it, they'll have to be quicker about their theft, and then upon jumping to the rebellion support crews, they have only a very short time to get a crew aboard - the Imperial fleet arrived within 10 minutes, and the party and their new cap ship have to make a fighting retreat from an ISD2

>>51718900
>we will never get a top gun X-Wing film
Why live on this gay earth

>>51719578
Go and read Wraith Squadron.

It's literally everything you're looking for here.

In summary ; a hybrid commando/x-wing squadron are part of the wider hunt for the Warlord Zsinj. They blend dogfighting and commando raids to destroy a bunch of his support networks, steal themselves a corvette, and fight against imperials and pirates.
The finale is a pair of bigass space battles.

It's everything you want for inspiration

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>>51717127
Vipers and Battlestars actually fit the Star Wars design style. Both Reimagined and original do. Like this for example looks pretty much like a Rendili design.

>>51720720
And feels. Don't forget the feels.

>>51720767
Oh Christ don't even get me started on the feels.
Iron Fist is the fucking champion of those, though.
I still tear up every time

>>51720767

RIP, several Wraiths. You all died with honor.

>>51720871
RIP Piggy's dignity.

>>51715359
I like it. I'll keep that in mind. Especially the last part.

>>51715384
>>51715801
If this is a reference to the Suicide Squad film, I wouldn't know, I still like it but I'd like to know beforehand.

>>51721134
As far as I can tell there's no reference, other than the word bring used to describe the mission.

Namely
>suicide

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Who else hopes for podracing to make a comeback in Star Wars?

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>>51721521
I am hoping for something different, like a proper team based sport.

>>51721732

We see some droids playing what looks like full contact spacerugby or spacemerican handegg in the background of the shitass dive bar that Kenobi and Anakin chase Zam Wesell to in AotC, as well as what looks like space greyhound racing.

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>>51711660

Thanks anon, this is a great list to work with.

>>51721521
yes please. pod racing is one of the good bits of the prequals.

Anyone got a form fillable character sheet pdf?

>>51715801
>>51721134
It wasn't meant to be a reference, but I kinda see it now. Damn.

So, one of my characters has a Blackmail obligation, surrounding her past. She was working for a corp, and working with a criminal organisation on the side, skimming money and funnelling it to the criminal organisation to make some extra cash. Eventually she tried to fuck over both the corp and the criminals at once, and made off with a lot of money. She fucked it up hard though, and was forced to flee, telling her family to do the same. The criminals tracked down most of her family and killed them. Her daughter is the only survivor, currently about 17 or 18. Last this character knew, the criminal organisation was trying to track down her daughter as a means of payback.

What interesting stuff can I do with this? I definitely want to throw a curveball at the player when the daughter inevitably enters the picture, but I'm not sure what specifically to do, figure you guys might have some ideas.

If it helps, some info about the PC in question; she's spiralled out of control since her life went to shit, taking on a hardcore Lesai addiction and losing most of her previously held morals. The group as a whole are working on building a criminal empire of their own on Nar Shaddaa, something she pushed them into pretty heavily, because she's become fixated on profit and success. She still very much cares about protecting her daughter, but has no real leads on where to find her; they severed communication intentionally, to protect her.

>>51721521
I don't mind racing but the cables pulling the driver cockpit is retarded. Just use insane junkyard speeders and swoops strapped against a starship engine instead.

>>51723467
It's meant to be like racing chariots and it's cool as fuck.

>>51723494
No, actual racing vehicles are cool.

I see a lot of people resolving similar plots by having the daughter show up as a member of the organisation that was hunting her. Might be a little predictable and cheesy, though.

>>51723371
The daughter should definitely be disgusted with what her mother has become if she's spiralled out as badly as you say. No lovey dovey reunion here.

>>51723620
You're boring.

>>51723709

Nah, the daughter went and joined up with the Empire, sickened by the criminal life her mother lead.

She's currently training in Intelligence, with a focus towards anti-crime work in the core out to midrim

>>51723751
This has potential. Joining up with the Empire would be a solid way to shake criminals off your tail, too.

>>51723870
>shake criminals off your tail
For minor criminal organizations, maybe. If it's Black Sun or a bigwig hunter like Boba Fett, the Empire may end up turning a blind eye. Imperial officials in Hutt space also tend to be in the Hutts' pockets.

>>51723870
Yeah, exactly. Plus, if they do eventually sniff you out and come for you, you're training on a fucking bastion world of imperial troops.

Probably a good way to stay safe if youre hiding from the average cartel - hutts or Xizor wont give a shit though.

Sadly with the daughter's age, its pretty much impossible for her to be an officer or someone in a position of actual threat, but the player could discover their daughter, try to 'rescue' her, and then be turned in instead.

>>51723954
Yeah, the age makes it tricky for me to do anything too dramatic, unfortunately. Still, I like the idea of staging a rescue, it's absolutely something I could see the PC doing, she's a total hothead at this point. Being addicted to space Speed will do that.

>>51723620
Chariots are actual racing vehicles.

>>51723990
Maybe have her dating an older man, a badass Imperial officer, because she feels relatively safe with him. That could cause some serious complications if he has connections. It could also put her in Imperial military base housing.

I just started playing x-wing and need help from some veterans: am I able to use the the T-65 x wing pilots (Biggs, Luke, Wedge, etc) in the new T-70 model or do they have to be used in the T-65?

>>51725537
Pilots are stuck to their ships, sorry.

>>51725587
That sucks, thanks anon

>>51723371

Maybe even worse, the corporation or criminal organization could see that the daughter has her mother's skills, and ask her to join. Or demand her to join to make up for her mother's failings. They could try breeding more loyalty in her, and the daughter could hate her mom for putting her into this situation in the first place.

If you want to slap the mother character, have a corp/criminal death squad come looking for her. And it's led by her daughter.

>>51723371

Okay then, Blackmail is only good as an obligation if, you know, actual blackmail happens.

Have the PC discover that her daughter has settled down somewhere, in a relatively secure position, found love, a good job, whatever. Make it clear that this girl has overcome the setbacks of her earlier life, and is on a path to great things.

Of course, the method by which the PC discovers all this is by receiving a message from someone who has joined the dots up.

The demand is simple. Payment for silence.

>>51726320

To build on this; at first, the demand is in credits. They begin to escalate, however, with requests for rare commodities, information, favours, each one accompanied by updates on how the daughter is doing.

Make the threat explicit; any attempt to trace the blackmailer will be met with the daughter's new identity and location being fed to the criminal syndicates who would like nothing more than to finish the job.

This does not preclude the players attempting to identify the blackmailer, but they have to play a very dangerous game with intermediaries and brokers, never making a move directly.

A while back I got linked to a website that sold 3D-printed versions of Star Wars ships in X-Wing scale, including a really nice Naboo Starfighter. Anyone know what that place might've been?

>>51726560

Sounds like Shapeways to me.

>>51726666
D U D E
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>>51716236
>>51716330
>>fuckyouyouknowwhoyouare

>haven't seen ice pirates
whew not star wars fans at all, eh

>>51720766
I thought they basically made the Dreadnought based on the BSG, as a bit of fair-play turnabout.

Anybody new Obligations/Motivations from No Disintegrations? I got a player who wants to play a Bounty Hunter.

>>51721521
No. I want to see Shockball or Bocce or Zero-G sledding or something. Or even swoop racing.

Podracing is lame.

>>51720766
Probably because the same concept artist (Ralph Mcquire) did the ships from both series and then the same special effects guy (John Dykstra) did both series too. While the story is different, they share a lot in common.

>>51728047
>>51727566
So BSG ships are free to input into Star Wars? Obviously not literally called Battlestars etc, but I could see the Viper as some kind of interceptor made by Incom as well.

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>>51728104
Colonial Vipers and T-Wings have a lot of design similarities.

God I love T-Wings and R-41s

>>51728104
Yep, and you could also add Buck Rogers in the 24st Century earth fighters too, also designed at the same time by Ralph Mcquarrie! It's a small world...

>>51728194
Star chasers are my favorite, seeing them in the TFU2 battle over Kamino actually motivated me to get it during a steam sale even if it was a shitty game and hellishly short. (and had legitimate steps BACKWARDS like making color and effect crystals share the same slot.)

>>51725484
Perhaps as a further curveball, as she learns to know the Empire she grows disillusioned with it and starts to harbor rebel sympathies.

>>51728628
I still have to laugh when I think about the producer for TFU2 literally said they were going for "quality over quantity" with the game. Like, the first game wasn't exactly lengthy either, but holy shit, I beat the second in like four hours, and that's WITH having to go back and redo a section from 30 minutes earlier because it glitched out on me.

The artists really were wasted on that game. It was gorgeous, but so, so, so, so dumb.

>>51727773

Seconding this

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So, i'm finishing my second read through of Kenobi.

What should I read next?

-Rogue Planet (heard mixed things but Obi and Ani between TPM and AOTC sounds interesting)

-Hard Contact (even people who don't like Traviss say she hadn't gone off the deep end yet with this book)

-Dark Tide duology (read Vector Prime and liked it, but I could not give a shit about Stackpole and his pet Gary Stu)

>>51729599
>-Dark Tide duology (read Vector Prime and liked it, but I could not give a shit about Stackpole and his pet Gary Stu)
But Corran's main trait is Failure, even in his solo book he fucks up constantly.

>>51729742
>tfw you're the only non-redshirt Rogue to be downed by SAMs in Isard's Revenge
>Probably even the only named Force-sensitive pilot to ever be downed by SAMs
Corran Horn, everyone.

>>51729742
It more just irks me that he feels the need to make his OC the star when Vector Prime set up all this interesting stuff with Danni Quee etc.

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>>51729806
That's how you know he's not a Marty Stu.

>>51730456
I think Prince might have been gay.

>>51729599
I say Hard Contact followed by Triple Zero. If you find yourself wanting to shout OYA MANDA, humming the tune to Vode An or Dha Werda Verda to yourself or wanting to don Beskar'Gam or hardened Kartarn armor do continue with the rest of the series.

Just be prepared for some serious capital F Feels in the later books

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>>51726713
You can get some very weird things on Shapeways.

>>51729599
If you want vong, i wouldnt sudgest the corran the failure duology, but instead the rebel duology (rebel dawn and rebel dream)

I enjoyed it for a number of reasons, namley very little jedi wank, neat wraith squad commando missions, cool starfighter rogue squadron stuff, delta zero, old Wedge and old Tycho being bros, Baby Ben Skywalker, not yet emporer (but still a kickass pilot) Fel, chiss, space spears, and jokes about how stupid giant space lasers are.

It has banter, the big 3 and the senpai-jam but doesnt focus on them so much (jaina wank aside), cool space battles, and i think the ending is quite good.

Is Tarkin and New Dawn any good, or are they Wendigo tier?

>>51730482
Super fucking straight. Born Again Christian, in fact. Father of like...64 or so kids.

>>51731990
>New Dawn
This was bad/boring.
Haven't read tarkin.

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For DMs of the FFG RPG, how do you justify melee attacks killing multiple members of a minion group if they arnt in range? Ie, a wookie chopping a stormtrooper in half but the other member of his minion group is well out of range. Do you house rule it out or is there another solution? What I have been doing is still calculating the damage into the groups HP but only allowing one kill.

>>51711855
Why doesn't the empire use Mandos for it's forces?

>>51732150
Clearly the other two Stormtroopers rush forward one at a time to fight the hero in close combat only to be cut down in turn. Just think about how a movie would do it and you'll be fine.

>>51732150
I typically don't separate individual minions between rangebands.

>>51732150
I never have minion groups too far apart. Short range from each other is easy to justify narratively, if you remember each check is meant to represent multiple attacks rather than just one swing of an axe.

>>51732157
Because mandos aren't loyal to the empire.

>>51732170
thanks for the input! Just had trouble figuring out how to fluff it

Wedge doesn't die in Empire's End /swg/ rejoice!

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>>51732191
Does...does that mean he's free from Wibbly-Wobbly Wendig?

I am in the planning / research phase of a Star Wars D20 game set during the height of the Galactic Civil War.

The players are starting out on a smuggler vessel headed for tatooine, and must get in good with one of the crime lords in order to sell a huge shipment of sliced weapons that don't rightly conform to Imperial Standards. The shipment itself is worth 250,000 credits, and the players are level 1. There are three of them, so I plan on rewarding them with 50,000 credits (plus whatever they make from selling loot). Presumably, they'll buy their own ship with this money.

Is this too high of a reward? I'm expecting the players to be level 4 before they gain an audience with Lady Valarian or one of Jabba's cousins.

>>51730739
Capital F "Feels like bullshit" for O66 and Impcom.

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The Czech cover for Heir to the Empire is amazing.

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>>51732230
He's moved on to political commentary.

>>51732150

Minions aren't in a group if they're far enough apart a huge wookie couldn't get a swing in and clobber both, or send his buddy toppling into him or blind him with the blood or whatever.

If it would take a maneuver for a minion to be in the same spot as his buddy, they probably shouldn't be counted as grouped up.

>>51731990
>>51732025
I liked New Dawn personally, even if the omnipresent 1984 surveilance dind't feel "Star Wars"

>>51733050
True, that aspect didn't feel "Star Wars", but it made sense in-universe.

>>51733072
Not really, especially not after TFA where they WEREN'T trying to let Rey escape or Han and Finn wander unopposed.

SW cameras are no smaller than a droid's eyes movie wise, and the smaller they are they usually glow a little.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Star_Wars_X-Wing_Miniatures_Game

This whole page is painfully out of date. I've just fixed up the TIE Bomber section to account for Imperial Vets, but we should definitely think about putting in a solid effort to get this updated into a good reference. I only play Imperials, so if any Scum or Rebels want to add recent updates, please do.

>>51732578
Give them a ship and reduce that cash reward to a couple thousand credits.

>>51733309
Update: I updated the TIE Defender and the TIE/fo to account for recent releases and added the TIE/Striker, which apparently no one else owns.

>>51733790

I own one. It's fun, I might use it more when I get the UPS.

>>51733309

God, all this has done so far is remind me now few Y-Wing pilots there are. REBEL VETERANS BOX, DEMANDED.

>>51733881
Reminds me. A writeup on the Upsilon is coming. The /sf is a maybe, but since I don't own one it would all be theoretical.

>>51733914
Would be nice to see updates for the Y-Wing and E-Wing. Or, with a bit of luck, an updated Y-Wing will appear in The Last Jedi.

So in my FaD campaign, the Imperials are en route to Corellia to destroy it with the Death Star because of an insurrection in true Corellian fashion. Chandrila and Mon Cala have already been destroyed, so the Rebellion is on the verge of collapse, and if Corellia dies, it does too. They managed to recover R2-D2, who was set to be scrapped after the capture of Luke's X-Wing after the Battle of Yavin, but even with the Death Star plans, they can't attempt the tench run again because the Imperials were quick to rectify that flaw it its design. The Rebellion is throwing everything it has at this, and I asked my players what they planned to do. One of them, who plays a Corellian, suggested OCC that they use Centerpoint Station to either tractor the Death Star out of range of Corellia, or just destroy it with Centerpoint itself.

I am not sure if I should allow this absurd idea to happen. Were Corellians even aware that Centerpoint could be used as a giant tractor beam before the Corellian Crisis?

>>51733977
Not exactly, but someone could have discovered it. It may be best to introduce an NPC who will do so.

>>51733914
>>51733309

Some of this advice is also fucking terrible - like years out of date. Maybe even out of date when these ships came out.

Did anybody actually seriously run 4 Lambda generics + upgrades and thing 5/5 behind 1 defense die was "invincible"? I mean, shit, even back in the day that could be cake for a properly flown TIE swarm since shuttles can't 180.

>>51734020
Feel free to take it out. That's part of the point of a wiki, we can just strip out anything that sucks.

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>>51733977
You've already got the death star surviving and blasting the rebellion, why not.

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Hey /swg/, I've just started running an EotE game, but I've noticed that a lot of the vehicle profiles are... weird. Stuff like the Speeder Bike and the Snow Speeder both being Silhouette 2 when I feel like they really should be 1 and 3 respectively (there are plenty of other ships with bizarre stats), and then there's certain ships whose price seems entirely out of line, capital ships that cost less than expensive starfighters, etc.

Has anyone actually bothered to go through and errata all the ships in the books or present them in some easily searchable document?

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>>51734072
My players wanted me to run with the premise of Star War Infinities: A New Hope. I am just glad they didn't want me to use ALL of that insanity.

This is how they took care of the Death Star.

X-Wing updater here. Added the Upsilon. This weekend I might make a project of removing some of the real shitty advice. I might actually come up with a way to mark good, okay, and bad pilots. Can you color text on wikis?

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>>51734081
Vehicles are pretty wonky in FFG, it works very well for a party in a gunboat, but not much else.

>>51734097
pic related

>>51734197

Probably, but I don't know their language. You might google it and find if there's a code that works.

>>51734213
My favorite part of that comic is the fact that just before that happens, it is established that the Emperor has reigned over five years of peace since the defeat of the Rebels at Yavin 4. Peoples lives are probably pretty good, or at least better than they were during the age of rebellion. And Yoda just takes control over the entire Death Star, starts blasting the entire Imperial fleet in orbit, and then crashes the whole thing into the Imperial Palace just to kill the Emperor. And every living thing on the planet, presumably. If people didn't believe that the Jedi were terrorists bent on bringing ruin to the galaxy, they sure as hell do now.

Also, the cavalier attitude Han has towards the destruction of the most populated planet in the galaxy. Nothing in that entire page makes any fucking sense.

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>>51734331
Just consider it a useful lesson. You can and should tell better stories.

Maybe a dumb question, but how's the West End Games RPG?

>>51734422
Good, but very old

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>>51734422
Mechanically solid, but full of decades of accumulated cruft and '80sisms.

Why do you ask?

>>51734197

I added the U-Wing and am working on the ARC pilots.

Any enterprising scum pilots out there who could share thoughts on the Protectorate, Shadow caster and Quadjumper?

>>51734459
>>51734539
Much obliged.

Asking because someone I know is interested in running it because it's all he's got the books for, says he'll give the new one a shot if he can get his mitts on those, though.

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>>51734580
You could also give Fate Core a try. It's completely free, in my opinion, quite good. http://www.evilhat.com/home/fate-core/

It's much more of a narrative- or theme-based game, so if you get your joys from minmaxing and gear-tweaking, this is not the system for you.

On the other hand, it keeps Force users from being dominating and it almost completely eliminates optimal builds and min-maxing.

>>51734348
A literary agent once told me, "Being published doesn't make a story good or bad. It just means that someone else thought they could make money off of it."

Things like this remind me of that advice. Just 'cause it ended up in a comic doesn't make it a good story.

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>>51734632
Precisely.

But you get some people who get really upset over canon and deviating from it, especially in Star Wars. It doesn't make a lot of sense.

>>51734422
Very, very good.

>>51734580
D6 is the most cinematic Star Wars experience you can get. FFG is fine, they're doing a great job even, but you can't beat the simplicity and adaptability of WEG D6.

My group's next X-Wing Epic Scenario: Assault On Coruscant

The game is played on two tables, one in atmosphere and one out of atmosphere. Each side begins with 200 points per table. In addition, the Imperial side receives one Emperor Palpatine upgrade for free, and MUST put it aboard one of its Large or Huge ships. This ship must start on the in-atmosphere table.

In the center of both tables is a "Shield Gate", a circle range 2 in radius. Any ship which is wholly inside the Shield Gate after it performs a maneuver may spend a focus token to switch to the other table. It appears placed anywhere in the shield gate. Bombs may not be placed in the shield gate. The first time Emperor Palpatine's ship transfers through the shield gate, it recovers all its shields, all its damage cards are discarded, and all its facedown upgrade and ship half cards are flipped face up.

The Imperial side must maneuver Emperor Palpatine from the in-atmosphere table to the out-of-atmosphere table, then to any table edge. If Palpatine's ship reaches the edge of the table, he has escaped and the Empire is gains five Victory Points. If he is killed, the Rebels gain five Victory Points instead. In either case, the game ends when Emperor Palpatine has left the table.

Victory Points can also be earned through completing objectives, rolled on the Objective list below. Whichever side has the most victory points when the game ends is the winner.

Victory points can also be spent to call in Reinforcements; one victory point can be spent to call in a squadron of 75 build points worth. This squadron should, ideally, be played by a newcomer to the game. If two victory points are spent at once, the reinforcements are up to 150 build points and up to 3 epic points. Keep in mind, points spent on reinforcements don't count towards your total in the end.

>>51734672
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WuJWjbfa-PdrOxPTL_qWAaxh6CjqDdUpWP-bdhRXy5A/edit?usp=sharing

Objective list

>>51734672
One note I forgot: Reinforcements may only be called in on the space table

>>51733914
I don't think we're actually going to get Rebel veterans.
Because we already did and it's called Heroes of the resistance.

>>51734758
Eh, they could always put out another "two upgrades on new ships" pair of packs if they want to get more of our money without making all-new molds

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>>51734642
I found that we just get so much more stuff done in FFG compared to D6 and say a combat encounter that used to take 30mins in D6 is over in about 10-15 and would inevitably take an hour... maybe 2 in the damn D20 system because everyone forgets their shit and is constantly looking for it.
There's a lot to like about D6 still, mostly the vast amounts of materials, adventures, ships, gear etc

>>51734772
>two upgrades on new ships
*old ships

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>>51734612

>>51734777
A lot of that depends on the GM. I do a lot to streamline combat when I run D6 - but I'm much more of a narrativist and storyteller GM than a simulationist.

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>>51734844
It's been over a week, and I've enjoyed my Indie Game Verification Can (tm). I think I'm safe.

And the guy did ask, anon. He genuinely asked.

>>51734890
I'm not sure "How's D6?" counts as "Please plug your homemade Fate hack."

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>>51734912
I don't know, I think

>interested in running it because it's all he's got the books for

Implies "I am open to free options I may have not considered, especially because they are obscure homemade hacks and not glossy illustrated hardcover books."

And if I'm wrong... who suffers?

>>51734942
Everyone else. But hey, it's not MY thread.

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>>51734957
I'm trying to see how. These threads are not finite resource. Nobody's forced to read my post or download the file. Skimming the post and seeing "this is not for me" is a negligible cost. The hack doesn't contain anything actively offensive (like brony porn or nazi gifs).

Has anyone had any play with the mines from No Disintegrations? they seem pretty good. Especially the standard mines (12 damage blast 8 Breach 4 for 500) and the conner net, which deals 20 ion damage.

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>>51734875
D20 does sort of lock itself into that mechanic of being a simulation by being highly dependant on the numbers, range, size etc
D6 I guess has a bit more room to fudge stuff, though funnily enough I actually found the D20 system to be a little more solid for handling ship combat and I found that easier than either FFG or D6- just a pity the rest of it drove me mad and it felt like a job more than a hobby!

I am playing my X-wing pilot in a play by post AOR game and I am so happy.

I fucking love Star Wars, guys.

What kind of elite troops do you think an Inquisitor would deploy if they're moving in to take out a Jedi but don't want to work alone?

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>>51735184
Indeed.

>>51735191
Storm Commandos, Death/Dark Troopers, veteran stormtroopers (The stormtrooper nemesis is a good reoccurring enemy lieutenant) or even a bounty hunter team, a la ESB.

>>51735191
Shadow Troopers, maybe Dark Troopers, but you could also spice things up by throwing individualistic stormtroopers that resemble ARC Troopers at your players. Give them distinct colors and skills to make them feel like a PC party that happens to be on the other side.

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>>51735264
Shit my bad, should read
>The stormtrooper nemesis from the FnD GM kit is a good reoccurring enemy lieutenant

>>51732191
Halle-fucking-lujah!

Now maybe someone can do something worthwhile with him

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>>51735191
Depends. How much does she know about the Jedi?

Droids, or part-droids, are a good bet. Something about becoming "more machine than man" seems to squick the Jedi out. Rewire some brains and make them tough to confuse.

Flametroopers are good. The Jedi might be able to shove the flames back, but they usually can't block blaster fire or dodge grenades at the sam time.

Suicide droids mess with a Jedi's training. Chop them apart and they explode. Toss them away and they roll right back at you.

You'll want a rapid response team ready to immediately pursue the Jedi if they flee in an unexpected direction, and teams set up in all the expected directions. Trackers are useful. So are mercenaries, especially if the Jedi just finished escaping Stormtroopers. They won't be looking for the three-headed guy in a muumuu. That split second of hesitation is all you need to gun them down.

>>51735184
Rpol.net?

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>>51735184

Yeaahhhh

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>>51735317

Nah, a discord server. We're a group of motley hard luck newbie Rebel pilots relegated to Z-95 duty before the battle of Yavin. Currently we're getting chewed out for being bad at teamwork in our simulator runs.

Another game running concurrently has a bunch of Imperial pilots who are the Hawks to our Ducks.

>>51735395
>>51735251
>>51735233

You guys know what's up.

>>51735672

Am a sucker for pilot stuff, and that sounds awesome.

>>51735672

This sounds great fun, I'm jealous.

>>51712092
I thought hutts had a rather heavy moral code about killing other hutts

>>51735672

What are the characters/party like?

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>>51735998

So... we've got my character, who's one of the twin daughters of an Imperial family who jumped ship on the way to academy to join the Rebellion because she was tired of mom and dad running her life and also wasn't into star destroyers landing on innocent protesters. Also trying to escape the stigma of being a rich girl playing at pilots.

The command of our new squadron, an ex-Imperial pilot dealing with her past and struggling at being the most experienced fighter pilot in the bunch despite not actually being that experienced.

The XO, a traumatized bird alien who lost his old squadron in an Imperial ambush.

A friendly zabrak pilot who seems to have a smile and a wink for everyone he meets.

A Chadra-fan who is the groups old lady at age 30.

A pantoran pilot who's dealing with the trauma of having her parents disappeared by the ISB just before she was recruited by her aunt into the Rebellion.

A veteran pilot from the Clone Wars who's more machine than man.

A lanky beanpole of a togruta who's the tallest in the squadron at six feet. Continually happy and upbeat no matter the situation.

I think that's all our Rebels.

Anyone got any music which sounds suitably Star Warsey without being from the films? Need some slightly less iconic stuff to play in my games.

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>>51736056

Is everyone the pilot spec or is it a mix with piloting (space) as a career skill added or some other setup? Don't mean to pepper you too much but am egging on for a similar campaign so am interested.

My fave is the chadra-fan, but maybe your character if the twin turns up as a nemesis.

>>51736093
>Is everyone the pilot spec or is it a mix with piloting (space) as a career skill added or some other setup? Don't mean to pepper you too much but am egging on for a similar campaign so am interested.

These are very rough and are mostly based on my character's impressions of the others since I haven't read everyone's backstory too closely, so I'm sure the others are all plenty neat, I'm just being rather sparse.

I think most everyone is in a piloting career.

>>51736056

Shit man, I want writefaggotry of your sessions, please.

>>51736056
What base stats is the pantoran player using? I had a player ask recently

>>51736116
I will try to summarize what's happened so far.

The part is on Yavin IV, an indeterminate amount of time before Scarif and the Death Star makes everyone absolutely miserable. Most of the squadron is arriving today, having been sent here or reassigned from other bases.

Oh yeah, forgot there's an old pit droid that serves as our maintenance crew.

And I think a second chadra-fan? I'm not clear exactly on the species the other short pilot is supposed to be, because they don't post a lot.

Anyway, the new pilots have mostly arrived and been sent to their new barracks to meet their new squadmates and get settled in. After a conflict of personalities with her current squadron, my character is reassigned to the new squadron and goes to make friends. Everything goes pretty smoothly, next thing you know it's morning and time for shitty caf and rations. Unfortunately, the breakfast table proves to be volatile as the Pantoran pilot lets loose her hatred of the Imps and my character tries to defend her family, even if she disagrees with them they're not bad people, after all. The argument is broken up when the new CO and XO arrive and order everyone to meet them at the sims in an hour because we're spending all day in there getting evaluated. We do some rolls, get some sim time, and then ump out to hear how we did and get assigned wing pairs, which is where we are now, getting chewed out for doing not so great in the sims.

Outside the sims, birb XO and the CO argue about training techniques. He wants to throw us into the mixer getting vaped by experienced pilots to show us that death is a real possibility, while she wants to make sure that we can fly in formation and know tactics. She wins, being the CO, though he manages to get his technique in for the first day of training.

Oh yeah, did I mention that we have to be ready to go live in a week when we're being sent to attack an Imperial station?

>>51736139

Not sure unfortunately. I'm a late addition to the game and wasn't there for that part of char gen.

>>51736186

Now im really jealous, damn.
This sounds fun as hell.

Spacebump

>>51735304
Didn't Stackpole say he's willing to come back to SW?

>>51738393
He did. IIRC, he also said on his blog that he'd love to show up as Old Corran in a movie cameo.

>>51716414

FUCKING STARCHASER i saw that movie years ago and never knew the name

>>51736139
>>51736203
They are in Endless Vigil

>>51738393

That'd be radical, just so long as he promises no more Corran Horn suewankery

>>51738426
...This i'd actually enjoy though

>>51736085
literally the first dozen or so posts of the thread

>>51736085
>suitably Star Warsy
>not from the films
I got you, anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7bmXywWus8

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Hey /swg/, would pic related work as a bounty hunter?

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>>51740343
>Brown person with jetpack, fancy armor, and explosives
The same as every other generic bounty hunter, I guess.

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>>51740343
I'd say no. The aesthetic just isn't right. But use it if you like it.

Here's one I've used in my campaign before. I named him Kith Calzador (pronounced Keith. The players came up with that one.).

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>>51740464
I'll keep posting bounty hunters.

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>>51740483
(3/?)

>>51740451
Did someone say "fancy armor"?

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>>51740500

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>>51740510

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>>51740517

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>>51740500
>that hideous "modern" abomination of a rifle

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>>51740528
This one's not explicitly a BH, but could be.

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>>51740547

>>51740517 continued here.

>>51740533
Yeah, the weapon isn't my favorite. But the armor is great, so it almost balances out.

>>51740547
that doesn't feel very star wars

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>>51740570
It is supposed to depict a different culture within the Galaxy Far, Far Away. It's a slightly more Asian-inspired design.

Otherwise, it fits right in. It's got a little Two-Tubes. The staff-thing looks fine. The only thing is the kimono or whatever you'd call it, and I don't think that's particularly glaring. There's tons of room in Star Wars for things we've not seen yet.

Anyway, more.

>>51740628
I prefer bouty hunters with armour that isn't directly inspired by Joba Fett or Stormies, like >>51740483
and >>51740517

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>>51740658
Okay, so not this one. I'll try to look for those types.

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>>51740688
I'm a fan of heavy armour personally, that kind that actually looks like it could take a proper beating cough cough Mandalorians cough cough splutter rather than something that is literally just a breastplate, kneepads and a pair o' spaulders.

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>>51740725

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>>51740772

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>>51740784
What's that about pauldrons?

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>>51740818

Hey /swg/, my GM needs help knowing what to do about a certain Obligation one of our players took.

She took the Oath Obligation, and it's an oath to help out the third player in our group. The 3rd player freed the Oath char from slavery, and I see it being very similar to the Wookie life-debt. My GM has the EotE beginner box and I referred him to looking at the wookie there, since he has the Oath obligation too.

But the main thing is when my GM rolls for Obligation, and lands on the Oath char, what would happen exactly? Her obligation feels more like a roleplaying aspect that's always hanging over her, whether her obligation is the one rolled for in the session or not. It's not like having a debt to a Hutt, and rolling that debt has the Hutt calling in for some repayment. Does anyone have any good examples, or ideas of how an Oath can affect a session? Thanks in advance!

>>51740827
T H I C C

>>51741335
The head seems a bit big compared to the body.

>>51741315
>Her obligation feels more like a roleplaying aspect that's always hanging over her, whether her obligation is the one rolled for in the session or not.
I'd personally make it trigger the other character's Obligation, or explain the problem and ask the player to change their obligation. A life-dept seems more like a Motivation than an Obligation personally.

>>51741451
It depends on the person who you are obligated too. Having the obligation be tied to another player complicates things a little. Had it been to an npc you could have when the obligation roled that the npc calls the player up and needs a favor from them. Maybe the npc was captured and needs rescuing or maybe they want money.