How did the Necrons look before their transformation?

>>51707863
A lot of people think they looked like Tau but more grey and with more of a necron undertone.

>>51707987
Hmm...
What if the Tau were deliberately genetically engineered and uplifted by Necron Crypteks in order to create a new race identical to the old Necrontyr to transfer the minds of their race into their bodies when the time comes?

>>51708066
That's a theory

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>>51707863

>>51707863
Sickly.

They were all ill as fuck, and had painful space cancer - which was seemingly hard-coded into their equivalent of DNA, seeing as they were never able to rid themselves of it as they spread throughout the stars, despite all their technology.

Who knows, maybe they was four legged insectoids and metallic bodys just was designed this way.
Is there at least description of theyre appearance? Can someone enlighten on this?

>>51708244
In the World Engine, The Astral Knights see holograms of the Necrontyr.

They were like the Necrons but were fleshed with cancerous and ravaged skin.

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>>51708288
I guess we can imagine them something like this then.

>>51708288
>They were like the Necrons
This is lazy as fuck. Animal skulls bear so little resemblance to their owners that you can't reconstruct their appearance from just the skull.

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>>51707863
Something like this?

>>51708074
Another theory is that Tau and the proto-Necrons share common ancestry, Tau being short lived, and the one of the Necron's driving forces to become what they are now was being bitter about their short lifespan.

Also both Tau and Necrons almost completely lack warp presence.

>>51708444
How on earth would two races divided by millions of years and light years of space have shared ancestry?

>>51708530
Space travel and sci-fi fuckery

>>51708432
He looks so timid and afraid.

>>51708781
Which contrasts the Necrontyr warlike and arrogant ways.

>>51708781
Necrontyr are the Galaxy's timid nerd bullied by the Old Ones' Chad.

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>Egyptian based culture
>Egyptian themes all over the place
>instead of having Egyptian looking gods, GW made their gods look like greco-roman gods with togas and everything.

justify this, /tg/.

>>51708859
Necrons didn't have any significant Egyptian themes. Everything Egyptian about them was introduced by Matt Ward, and it was still not much.

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>>51708909

Even post-Wardedation the C'tan designs kept being based around Greek gods. Where are the jackal and bird headed deities?

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>>51708859
Actually, the Necrons share a lot more with the Sumerians, rather than the Egyptians. Sumeria not only inspired the Lovecraft mythos, and even created the name Nurgle, but it was also known for the creation of /monoliths/.

There are even more similiarities, such as the idea that the Star that gave the Necrontyr life, also gave them death, just like how the Eupherates and Tigirius river gave both fertile soil and deadly floods.

The general style of the Necrons outfits even match, with long capes and waist robes.

Pic repated, its a Monolith.

>>51708859
Because you get a being that really looks divine if you go for the Greco-Roman way, mostly because that is what you'd associate with divinity thanks to history

>>51708530
Aren't there necrons with time-travel tech?

>>51709190
I know one.

>>51707863
Actual canon answer: Males looked like brightly coloured anthropomorphic hedgehogs. Females looked exactly like your waifu.

Source: Vengeful Spirit

>>51708066

That's been my theory for years.

The big counter argument is Necron legs and feet. But if admech can be digitigrade, then why can't necrons go the other way?

>>51709077
>>/choas/

>>51708530
Wasnt the Tau homeworld engulfed in a warp storm that lasted thousands of years?

>>51708530
>How on earth would two races divided by millions of years and light years of space have shared ancestry?

A Dark Age of Technology scientist on Earth obtained a rare sample of Necrontyr DNA from one of the fucktillion sources of weird arcane sci-fi shit that make up the 40K setting, decides it would be a great idea to make a super-species based on this hyper-advanced mythical race. They travel to the farthest reaches of known space and sets to work.

That's an Earth specific example, anyway. Tau could just be an off-shoot of the Necrontyr that bombed themselves into the stone age and forgot that they were ever part of a different species. Hell, with the time-frame involved it could be that a Necrontyr just really liked shooting his jizz into space, and that eventually landed on T'au in the right place and time, and the species evolved from his genetic sample.

>>51707863
Before the whole New-cron retconning, I always held that cron race was an insectoid/arachnid species.

The whole "robo-skeleton" thing was just a form given to them by the C'Tan, and used to intimidate the lesser species of the Old Ones who all had that same body template. The original Necron'tyr body was something more like a Tomb Spyder, who maintain the underground tomb-cities of their race. As another creep-ifying thing, is that Scarabs are effectively swarms of Necron babies.

>>51708066
the hole in that theory is that it was some eldar that were seen stealing the genetic material to uplift them

>>51708859
the c'tan took over the necrontyr as ruler

pottery

>>51708432
Not bad. Especially for Oldcrons. He should look physically pathetic and sickly but wrapped up in regalia to make himself seem more impressive.

>>51708530 see >>51708066

Biotransferrence requires biological bodies to transfer into. Plus they can work out bio-upgrades to lengthen their lifespans and generally improve their health and physiques. Tau probably aren't straight clones; they've probably benefited from at least some genetic tinkering. That might be where the castes come from: attempts at social engineering or just pitting competing genetic templates against one another.

There's a lot the two races have in common. The Tau are physically weak; the Necrontyr allegedly were. Both focus on shootiness and technology/automation. Both don't have much in the way of warp presence. Both have highly stratified, structured societies rich in protocol.

>>51708781
>>51708810
>>51708824

Being hesitant and weak and put upon is a great formula for getting drunk on power when you finally get the physical upgrade of all time. People who've been bullied sometimes internalize the lessons and are careful not to become bullies themselves, but other times they'll mistake their victimhood for virtue and see it as a license to do whatever to people once they have a chance. Hell, you see it on these boards all the time.

So yeah, subtract a soul and then add in a nigh-invulnerable superhero robot body and I can totally see nerdlings turn into arrogant supervillains. It's not just plausible, it's a well-known trope in fiction.

>>51709698

Remember also that sometimes non-FTL ships get sucked into the Warp. A necron cryosleep slowboat colonizer stuck in the warp for 60 million years suddenly shows up a few thousand years ago and crashes. The survivors are awakened automatically, but with no tools they quickly fall into savagery and faction fighting that leads to a long interregnum. That's when the castes evolve. Then six thousand years ago, the savages are discovered by explorators right before their big push to civilization.

>>51709936

When? What's the story of that?

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>>51710281
I wonder if this has ever happened to anyone before.

>>51708909
>Necrons didn't have any significant Egyptian themes.
It was more subtle pre-Ward, but it was still there. Things like pyramidal monoliths, scarabs, and the obsession with tomb-terminology is all from 3rd edition. Dead Men Walking even features a Necron Lord who's described as having a Pharaoh-esque look.

>>51708859
Because the C'tan are not the gods of the Necron people, so having them be culturally similar is not necessary. IIRC, the term "star god" is actually a bit of a mistranslation of the word "c'tan", "star vampire" would be more accurate.

>>51710784
>Because the C'tan are not the gods of the Necron people
Meant to say Necrontyr

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>>51707863
It may be a comedy show, but I thought If the Emperor had a Text-to-Speech Device had a fairly good approximation on how Necrontyr probably looked.

>>51708432
This is pretty good too.

>>51710281
>There's a lot the two races have in common. The Tau are physically weak; the Necrontyr allegedly were. Both focus on shootiness and technology/automation. Both don't have much in the way of warp presence. Both have highly stratified, structured societies rich in protocol.

Also, both were introduced into the setting at around the same time.

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>>51707863

They looked like they were in a lot of pain.

If we're talking about species evolution in 40k, then I have a question. Is there a specific origin story for humanity in 40k or is it just humans evolved like in real life going all the way back to simple bacteria?

>>51710784
The C'tan took the forms of the Necrontyr old gods.

>>51711169
Humans evolved like normal, though it's possible the Old Ones planted the seeds of our evolution, essentially ensuring we'd end up being humanoid like the other races they made.

>>51710900

Good point, though I don't think a Necron/Tau connection was ever planned or intended to be part of the metaplot.

Nevertheless I think that's a good point because you have the same writing staff, the same tone, and so similar feels.

>>51711169

So far as I'm aware, humans evolved exactly as scientists currently believe we did. There's some speculation, I think, and Eldar/Necrons both might have meddled slightly (thus explaining the human cultural cues that we recognize in them) but otherwise we weren't important enough to have been worth bothering to meddle with.

>>51709081
Fuck you and your qualified opinion. Out of my /tg/ reeee

We know they were humanoid vertebrates, and some hint that the Deciever looks like a healthy necrontyr, that said given they are described as sickly. We can assume they were pale, gaunt and willowy, with sunken features, punctuated with tumorus growths

>>51711169
The origin of humanity is considered a bit of a mystery. Most humans in the setting believe that the Emperor created humanity, but that's obviously just a post-facto religious attachment.

What we know:
1) Humanity has hardly changed since we left Earth for space. There has been occasional genetic tinkering by outsiders, but other than a few strange occurrences (Ogryns, Ratlings, some deathworld natives) humans from one end of the galaxy to the other are broadly identical and can interbreed fine. This is odd, to the point where the Magos Biologis have noticed this lack of diversity (despite evolution being a demonstrable fact in other species such as grox and the Tau) and wondered as to why.

2) Eldar, Necrons and probably Old Ones all visited Earth at various times before humans evolved, and afterwards. The webway passes close by (hence the Emperor being able to start his little project in the basement of the palace), and the Void Dragon was fought by the Emperor and exiled to Mars in pre-technological times.

3) Humans generate pyskers, nulls, blanks and pariahs. No other species has this number of different interactions with the warp. Tau and Necon'tyr are broadly nulls, and Eldar are all pyskers, but humans get both. Our psykers are also some of the more powerful (if short lived, and prone to be daemon-food) in the galaxy. And NO other species generates pariahs (negative warp presence) at all. The occurrence of the pariah gene was always made out to be a plot of the Deceiver C'Tan, but since the ret-croning it's been left in limbo.

So basically, it could be any number of things. Any evidence on Terra was long ago paved over (or collected by the Emperor himself), so there's not much way of discovering the truth. Other than asking Him on Earth personally, or a shard of the Deceiver, or a particularly ancient Daemon (good luck with that!).

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I always liked this art of an immortal - enhances the humanoid shape but blatantly inhuman motif Necrons should be rolling with.

>>51710784
Pic related is from 3rd edition, and definitely has an Egyptian thing going on.

>>51711790
>Eldar, Necrons and probably Old Ones all visited Earth at various times before humans evolved, and afterwards.
I would argue that the ancient Egyptians were almost certainly hit up by Triarch Praetorians at some point.

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>>51711919
woops, forgot pic

>>51708235
>They were all ill as fuck, and had painful space cancer - which was seemingly hard-coded into their equivalent of DNA, seeing as they were never able to rid themselves of it as they spread throughout the stars
That's actually bullshit. The background material states explicitly that they turned to space colonisation to escape from the diseases brought by their sun. Once they escaped, they were merely short-lived, and even that in comparison to the Old Ones. For all I know, they could have longer lives than humans.

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Warhammer -65,000,000: The War in Heaven when?

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>>51712009
Necrontyr/Necrons and pre-splintering C'tan vs. Old Ones, Krorks, and pre-fall Eldar? That would be fucking awesome.

>>51709081
>no one else notices that this entire post is trollshit.

>>51712111
Maybe after forgeworld is done with HH?

>>51711790
>he origin of humanity is considered a bit of a mystery.

No, it's not. Humans evolved as a part of a biosphere that the Old Ones made on Earth. Source is the Oldcron codex.

>>51711998
Nah, the codex says the curse of their star lingered even when they left their planet.

>>51708530
My theory is that descended from a splinter of necrontyr who rejected the bio-transference and hid away on T'au, rejecting technology until they descended into primitives.

>>51712346
>Source is an outdated codex

>>51709998
Like how that guy in fury road had that weird plastic armor to look more intimidating?

>>51712179
But its not?

>>51712535
Unless there is no lore that says otherwise, it still goes. So eat a dick.

>>51712361
I don't see this line anywhere in the codex. I even looked in the older codices, nothing. So I call bullshit.

>>51712111
No marines? You can forget it bro.

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>>51708432
I think this is the best representation of their race.

>The random hair placement noting how their planet is bombarded nonstop by lethal radiation, meaning even a quick peek on the surface is the equivalent of an extended chemo-therapy session.
>Sickly, aged and miserable appearance contrasted by rich looking regalia are a stark contrast to the angular, healthy Eldar they hated so damn much. A life dealt a shitty hand, lending to their bleak outlook on life and why they were so quick trust Space Farts with their race's future.

>>51710928

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>>51713173
>Billions of years before the birth of mankind on Holy Terra, a bitter, accursed species known as the Necrontyr clawed its way to sapience beneath the hateful light of their home world’s baleful, fl ensing star. Driven by necessity, the Necrontyr escaped their crucible-prison and struck out for the stars, hopeful of carving an empire in which they could realise their species’ potential free from the lethal energies of their birth star. Yet, the Necrontyr would not fi nd peace in their nascent empire, for their highly stratified society was soon riven with internecine strife. Each dynasty of the Necrontyr sought to claim its own destiny and soon the great houses were engaged in all out war. Had circumstances remained as they were for but a generation more, it is possible that the Necrontyr would have wiped themselves out, as so many species had before them and shall do in the future. Instead, as the Necrontyrs’ young and fractious empire sprawled outwards through the stars, it inevitably encountered far older powers, beings that have dwelled in the galaxy for long aeons. Collectively, these beings were the Old Ones, and they were absolute masters of forms of energy the Necrontyr could not even conceive of, yet alone wield. The Old Ones had long ago conquered the secrets of immortality, yet they refused to share the gift of eternal life with the Necrontyr, who yet bore the curse of the bitter star they had been born under.

-Deathwatch Outer Reach

Look harder!

>>51713387
Old Ones army when? It'd be a good way to finally get us some lizardmen/Seraphon outside of fantasy.

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Remember when Necrons had ships that can cross the galaxy in moments (picture related)? Why did they remove them and make the Necrons reliant on the Webway?

Justify this.

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>>51713387
>Deathwatch Outer Reach
>the codex

>>51713565
Oldcron codex also says that the curse was encoded into their body. It went with them wherever they went.

>>51713554
Justification: because this shit was OP as hell. Besides, 40k usually have enough taste to at least mention magic when it breaks the laws of physics.

>>51713615
>Justification: because this shit was OP as hell.

Newcrons have Webway access which allows them to skip through the galaxy in a few heartbeats also. This is why the change made no sense. It doesn't serve any purpose but ruin the image of the Necron as masters of real space.

>>51711790
>1) Humanity has hardly changed since we left Earth for space.

Men of Gold vs Men of Stone. As of 40k, humanity as we know it today (men of gold) is extinct. Whatever replaced it appears to evolve more slowly or at least hasn't been subjected to as much genetic drift.

But yeah it could be any number of things. "Evolved naturally but lots of aliens meddled" appears to be the closest to canon.

>>51708165
Underrated post

>>51712428

For 60 million years?!?

Actually, timescale in 40k is flexible, so sure. That would be an interesting twist.

>>51713726
>>51712428
Necrons research Tau genetics. If they had Necrontyr genes, the Necrons would have known already.

>>51710281
All that theorizing is cool and all but the tau do have a warp presence its just very small, and secondly the necrons sold their souls. Its kind of hard to transfer a soul into a new body when you don't have one and the host already has something in it. Like trying to get your non-existent foot in a shoe that has some paper still in it, even if you had a foot it wouldn't work.

>>51713387
We always hear about how the necrons were "short lived", but what if they were just bitches and actually live much much longer than humans. I would make some sense given they evolved on a harsh world which they would have evolved to resist, and that when comparing any lifespan to immortality makes like seem short. Also in human history there have been various societies that deal with the matter of death in different way, some obsessing over it and other not really thinking about it.

>>51713605

That makes sense, because a race would likely have evolved defenses against whatever the local ambient radiation level was (less whatever the useful productive mutation rate is).

I'm really pissed about that. I miss Oldcrons who could exceed the speed of light in normal space, powered by GREEN and FUCK YOU RELATIVITY. That kind of blase disregard for the basic laws of science and causality really drove home how powerful necron science is. I miss it.

>>51713605
It's too bad that I looked in it and it says nothing of the sort.

>>51713771
Except it did. Despite their advanced technology, the curse of their star lingered in their bodies as it was encoded into their bodies. See picture again >>51713387

>>51713753

Would they? How many crypteks would have records of their own DNA 60 million years later? It's probably rare lore limited to specific types of crytek-- maybe even just one house that would therefore monopolize the data and use it perhaps to build the Tau. :)

>>51713760

I don't buy that biotransferrence included their souls. The Necrons are soulless, right? I mean in the sense of anything short of a living intelligent being.

I think they're digitally uploaded mind emulations, AIs that are protected from Warp fuckery. They're programmed with the personality and memories each of a specific Necrontyr, designed to think they ARE that long-dead guy (who in ancient days was uploaded and then eaten by a C'tan). Their souls perished millions of years ago. The Necron is driven by programming to long for a soul-- but that's something it can never have.

>>51707863
>I'm really pissed about that. I miss Oldcrons who could exceed the speed of light in normal space, powered by GREEN and FUCK YOU RELATIVITY. That kind of blase disregard for the basic laws of science and causality really drove home how powerful necron science is. I miss it.
As far as I'm aware, they can still do all of this.

>>51713387

>>51713760 here
I forgot to say that what if their look was just a complex. I mean how would they know they are ugly and stunted unless they had something to compare themselves with. Which may make sense given that the way these stories are written it seems they had the opinion that their world was toxic and their bodies were poisoned well before they even had advanced to the point of space travel.

Yet if we assume their world was truly toxic then it would be useful to compare them to the native of Baal.

>>51713844
>Would they? How many crypteks would have records of their own DNA 60 million years later? It's probably rare lore limited to specific types of crytek-- maybe even just one house that would therefore monopolize the data and use it perhaps to build the Tau. :)

Many of them? Since a lot of the Cryptek are biologists. They were so thorough in their study of Tau genetics that they saw that they weren't the creation of the Old Ones. They even detected the the Tau were genetically tampered by the one of the Old One servant races (Eldar).

Anyways, the crypteks of the Flesh Vats must have the genecode of the Necrons since one of their solutions is cloning new bodies for the Necrons to transfer into.

>>51708530
Necrons were fucking everywhere.

>>51713817
Wow, amazing, did you read my original point at all?
>necrons went to space to flee from their sun

>>51713858
They can't. Their engines are near-light. They now rely on the Webway or else they become doomed to isolation. Somebody tweet Ward and tell him he is a twit.

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>>51713940
Yes, it was stupid since the codex says that before they even traveled into space the Necrons realized that the curse of their sun ain't going away.

More accurately, it was the curse of the Nightbringer which haunted their species since birth.

So fucker you lied. They didn't go to space to escape their diseases. They carried their diseases with them.

>>51713957
It isn't said anywhere that they are sublight and they even go above lightspeed in Fall of Orpheus

Wanna habe some context forndoomed to isolation?

Your species has achieved technology to go double light speed, congratulations. You can now get to another solar system in only 2 years or cross the milky way in only 50,000 years.

Webway on the other hand takes from weeks to months to do the same.

>>51710296
Eldrad sees tyranids incoming. He says fuck that shit we need more meatshields. So he has some alien spider queens killed for their pheromone control ability's. He then gets a couple of tau sticks the pheramone organ into their heads and mind fucks them. He then releases them into the wild where they start spouting shit about the greater good and literally stop the Fire nation's siege on the Earth city before it was cool.

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I wonder who could be behind everything that happens in 40k...

>>51714085
>It isn't said anywhere that they are sublight

"Hammer and Anvil" which is a novel co-written by Ward. Imotekh's fleet drives are near-light.

Also Shield of Baal.

>they even go above lightspeed in Fall of Orpheus

Actually, they don't. They just zip out of there. One of the advantages of the interia-less engines is that they can go from zero to near light in seconds. To the naked eye, it seems that they just disappeared.

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To those that keep saying that the Necrontyr were arachnids/insects/otherwise non-humanoid creatures, there's one thing I'd like to bring up.

For the most part races tend to create effigies/machines with a likeness to their own body. So if the Necrontyr truly were insect-like, then why would they make humanoid bodies? Especially since the only race they know of that are humanoid are the Eldar, one of their most hated enemies. It just wouldn't make sense. As well, even if it was the C'tan that told them to do this, they still made the bodies for the C'tan to inhabit, which were also humanoid. It'd just make more sense overall that the Necrontyr were humanoid at least.

To me, I feel like the original Necrontyr would resemble the Muun from Star Wars. Except they'd have incredibly ravaged skin and a multitude of different cancers afflicting them all at once.

>Imotekh’s steady march across the galactic plane wove its course even now, out in the depthless tracts of interstellar space where necron tomb ships and harvester cruisers travelled at near-light velocities. The Royarch’s grand schema, embedded in the mindframes of every necron in his service from warlord to drone, was to reunite the scattered, sleeping remnants of their species under his sigil. They had come to the Kavir system in search of the Obsidian Moon, and the Dolmen Gate that lay hidden beneath its surface. The Atun, the dynasty that had built it, was weak and scattered, and the Sautekh had claimed it for themselves.

-Hammer and Anvil

>Zarathusa’s host also escaped the destruction of Aeros, phasing back to their fleet of harvest ships before engaging their inertialess drives and outrunning the shockwave in a flare of relativistic energy. Safe beneath a mile of snow and ice on their tomb world, the Necron Overlords watched with satisfaction as the Tyranid tendril headed for the planet was swept away like so much dust. Across the system, when the wave reached the Magnovitrium, its mirrors shattered into a billion fragments and the Burning One soared free to feed upon the solar winds.

-Shield of Baal Exterminatus

Related text.

>>51714203
Yeah the Muum are kinda how I pictured them but a guy earlier in the thread makes a convincing argument on them being insectoid. Mainly that their new shiny skele body's were created by the C'tan to terrify the old ones creations which tend to all look the same. And that the Tomb spiders are what they originally looked like.

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>>51714286
>a convincing argument on them being insectoid.

Which is bullshit considering that....

-The C'tan took the forms of the old Necontyr Pantheon of Gods. All C'tan are humanoid. If the Necrontyr were insects then their racial gods would be the same.

-We already have descriptions of the Necrontyr from the World Engine novel. They are pretty much the same as the Necrons except they got meat on them.

-The C'tan did not design the Necron bodies. The Necrontyr did.

>>51708781
Get assfucked by cancer across your entire species and then wage war with someone who's on a whole other level than yourselves and see how you look.

>>51714351
>-The C'tan took the forms of the old Necontyr Pantheon of Gods

>>51713875 here
How would the Necrontyr have the beauty standard they push upon their gods if they were unable to encounter that in their lives. So the Necrontyr probably looked fine but it was their crazy image/life complex that drove them to think otherwise.

video related

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thLGbYh6ZE0

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>>51714486
>Inside, the shadows were deep and thin shafts of light fell from above to pick out blank-faced statues of humanoid aliens. They were similar in form to the metallic creatures outside but had been flesh and blood, with fantastic regalia ornamenting hunched, wizened bodies with bony ridged faces and spindly limbs.

-World Engine

Do you count wizened bodies, sunken faces, and thin limbs as fine?

>>51714040
Let's look at your version of the story: They knew the illness wasn't going away, so they escaped their planet to flee from it, but it stayed with them, even though it was never mentioned again. This makes absolutely no sense. Either it was written by an idiot or somebody's trying to twist the facts.
>More accurately, it was the curse of the Nightbringer which haunted their species since birth.
Umm, so what, how on earth does it prove that they were still sick in space? Getting kinda desperate here.

>>51713768
I agree, I'd play their access to the Web way for horror, to hammer in the eldar aren't safe either, I like newcron lore but it needs a touch of the old to work better

>>51714591
It stuck with them since birth and no mention of it ever going away or any mention of them leaving their home planet to escape from it. It was said to be encoded into their bodies.

So no. They didn't leave their planet to run from the curse. They left to explore space like any species out there.

>>51714662
It is horror...for the Necrons. The Necrons dread the Webway since its infested with Eldar, warp creatures, and also because the Webway tries to kill them whenever they use Dolmen Gates.

>>51713427
I theorized a long time ago that warhammer fantasy was just a single undeveloped planet in 40k, and what connected it all was the old ones.

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>>51714675
>unable to find peace on their own planet, they left etc.

>>51714706
But the necrons ARE the horror, fear should not factor into their actions

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>>51715345
But fear does factor since the Necrons are no longer horrors but just people who happen to be made out of metal.

>>51715725
Most of them are emontionless tough, or only feel rage and hatred. Only the upper class have a more complete emotion panel. And I bet some Cryptek are just like "Yeah I turn my fear button off century ago".

>>51715345
No the Horror is the Tyranids. A vast intelligence that doesn't even see the galaxy as a threat, buta mere morsel, a crumb that brushed its side as it continues its journey through the void.

>>51716021
Actually, it sees Yriel and Iyanananana~ as a threat since Yriel injured it.

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>>51716097
The same way you see a wasp that bites you: Annoying, but as much as you want to avoid getting bitten again, you want to kill the offending creature.

>>51713695
>Newcrons have Webway access which allows them to skip through the galaxy in a few heartbeats also. This is why the change made no sense.

Webway restricts travel in that you need a working gate on either side.

Necrons were limited to the webway because the new goal of the Necrons in a reconquest of their former territories and awakening sleeping tomb worlds. If they could travel instantly anywhere they'd be done before lunch.

A further benefit to making them use the webway is possibility for increased contact with the Eldar, who are their ancient rivals

>>51713427
Slann (which didn't look like they do now) were actually a thing way back in 1e.

>>51715165
This was also a thing for a time, again in 1e or 2e. The premise was that the world that warhammer fantasy took place on was cut off from the rest of the galaxy by heavy warp storms. Occasionally magic items would show up in fantasy that had a description that made them sound distinctly like equipment from 40K. This happened as late as the Albion campaign where the most successful factions were given new magic items to use, which included a flamer and a power fist.

>>51710900
Weren't the Tau introduced late 3rd edition and Necrons were quite a bit older with different looking models?

>>51708066
The main issue with this is some necron dude senses the "tampering of the old ones or their children" in the tau

Theres also an exert from some imperial biologis who says that elder kidnapped some aliens with weird "hive" organs and not long after that the etherals began to show up and unite the tau with the same organs

>>51707863
No reason to think they didn't look like necrons but fleshy, probably humanoid with elongated faces/heads, no idea about skin tone but I imagine a dull grey

>>51711790
I really want 40K to go full Dune, and for it to turn out that the Emperor's real plan was to breed a race of nulls, instead of psykers, to give humanity the best possible defense against chaos.

that is, pretty much, exactly what happened in god-emperor of dune, only it was to defend against psychic machines and tyrants, not gods

>>51708859
>>justify this, /tg/.
GW cannot into history or art so they just go with whatever the shit first comes into mind.

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>>51713554
GW wanted to make the Webway more important to all races in general.

Granted it doesn't really make sense for a race that has technology that can literally create pocket realities, teleport massive amounts of troops and even fucking time travel at will.

>>51714486
Couldn't they have gods that don't look like them to further empathize the difference between mortal and divine? Not all earth cultures represent deities as ideal humans, ours does due to grecorroman influence. And necrons are not even human.

>>51716021
>tyranids
>a threat
>bunch of wild psychic animals that are herded "The Animals of Farthing Wood" style into the Milky Way because Chaos has completely destroyed their home galaxy

Oh piss off cunt.

>>51714096
>inb4 The Ethereals disappear and the Fire Caste wipe out the Air Caste, take control of the Fire Caste and force the Water Caste into exile.

>>51723375
>bunch of wild psychic animals that are herded "The Animals of Farthing Wood" style into the Milky Way because Chaos has completely destroyed their home galaxy

Never anywhere is this stated, the slow and surrounding advance of the hive fleet suggests theyre just here to eat

>>51718126
If the Tyranids are really that big, then why would people even give a shit about chaos?

>>51723791
because chaos is bigger

>>51723791
That's fanart.

The biggest threats to the galaxy are Necrons and Tyranids. Not denying the threat that is Chaos, but there has always been the notion that Chaos needs emotions and sentient beings to feed on. Not going to happen if soulless robbo skellington or superbuge get rid of all life.
>inb4 "hurrdurr Chaos is unending, multiversal, undefeatable and has already won"
Orks and IoM would put up a good fight against Necrons and Tyranids, Eldar are too few in numbers to take the galaxy back and would probably go back into the webway into safety.

>>51723883
Bigger than a hive mind that spans the size multiple times the galaxy?

>>51723951
Yes.
Infinitely so.

>>51723940
agreed

>>51723940
>>inb4 "hurrdurr Chaos is unending, multiversal, undefeatable and has already won"

>T-tyranids and Necrons are the biggest threat if we just ignore Chaos fluff!

>>51724020
>if we just ignore Chaos fluff!
>implying Chaos fluff isn't just ADB wanking Abaddons dick and trying to make him relevant

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>>51723940
>sentient beings to feed on. Not going to happen if soulless robbo skellington or superbuge get rid of all life.

Chaos does not need life. Chaos's objective is to destroy all life.

So eat a dick with your headcanon.

>>51724032
Did ADB work in GW in 3th ED? Because that lore is from back then. Piece of shit xenofags. The lore outright says that Chaos is the greatest thrreat. Heck, it even names the Necrons and Tyranids as paling before the might of Chaos.

>>51723940
>The biggest threats to the galaxy are Necrons and Tyranids.

>biggest threat
>necrons
>the saviours of the galaxy

Necrons are good guys fag

>>51709081
>Posts Ziggurat
>ITS A MONOLITH

kys know nothing tard baby

>>51724020
>>51724032
>>51723940
Nids and Necrons are the biggest threat, I know they always SAY chaos is, but comparatively it just doesn't do it, chaos is like orks2.0, a constant threat from within, necrons and tyranids are a galactic super imminent threat

>>51724162
>necrons and tyranids are a galactic super imminent threat

Much less so than Chaos.

>>51724162
Moron, Chaos is the great imminent threat that's threatening to consume the galaxy now. That's the whole point of the Gathering Storm narrative.

The Eye of Terror has been unleashed and it's now consuming the galaxy. It will continue to do so until nothing remains. Xenofags are just retards. Something must be done about them, WHFB-style.

>>51707863
Shitty, wizened, and tumor riddled.

>>51722418
>Granted it doesn't really make sense for a race that has technology that can literally create pocket realities, teleport massive amounts of troops and even fucking time travel at will.

One reasoning could be that such technology requires vast quantaties of energy - that energy being the life-force the necrons get from harvesting sentient life.

They need the red harvest to fuel their technology, but they only use said tech to harvest the living.

It's as though the necrons are an engine of perpetual motion, which is fitting considering they all clank.

Necrons no longer harvest anything so why are their fleets still called harvest fleets in the new fluff?

>>51725286
They harvest people for experimentation.

>>51707863
Humans.

>>51707863
I'm really surprised this thread has gone so long without anyone replying:

With their eyes.

Especially since post transformation they really technicly don't have those anymore.

>>51707863
With their eyes

>>51723940
>The biggest threats to the galaxy are Necrons
Stopped reading immediately. Necrons are the first to ally with Imperium when shit truly hits the fan. They actually treat humans like a respectable enemy unlike certain pointy eared cunts.

>>51726956
>>51724091
GW has a huge fetish for good undead in all of its systems.

>>51713185
the forces of mankind would consists of human leaders and men of iron, like mechanicim cranked up to 11

>>51727656
Humans did not exist during the War in Heaven.

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>>51726956
Maynarkh comes.

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>>51707863

assuming that similar rules for musculature apply to necrons as apply to earth-life, and that their robo-bodies are likenesses to their skeletons, necrons would have the following features-

> Fairly humanoid lower half based on proportions and shape of hips and legs
> If the shoulder blades are skeletal rather than decorative, the Necrontyr may have had extremely muscular upper bodies, focussed on their shoulders and upper arms
> Spine may also support this, attachment point for big back muscles
> Hunched posture due to massive back muscles
> Chest may have been equally muscular, but no attachment point for pectoral equivalent present

Possible tunneling adaptation? Similar to moles. Hands dont support this though, not sturdy-looking enough to be digging tools

> no sagittal crest on head to serve as muscle attachment, likely had a weak bite
> flat face with recessed "nose". No evidence of external soft structures in things like attachment points, so probably had a flat face

Would probably end up looking a bit like hunchbacked tau. Skin colouration may have been very dark or perhaps even reflective to try and deal with the massive radiation of their homeworld

>>51724091

People still cling to the old fluff of Necrons wanting to eradicate all life.

>>51708909
Necrons are literally just 40k's tomb kings

>>51728168
>Possible tunneling adaptation?
I'm thinking arboreal lifestyle and using the arms for locomotion.

>>51723940
>>51723883
>>51723986
thee's gits fink dat orkz ar'nt da bigest or th' badest

>>51709957
>logic

I miss the Oldcrons, their amazing technology, the mystery of their motives and Pariahs, a unit which is cooler than any Newcron unit.

>>51729303
>Pariahs, a unit which is cooler than any Newcron unit
DoWbaby spotted.

>>51728691

possible, but the hunchbacked posture may contradict that. Oversized shoulderblades make for a great muscle attachment, but limit ones ability to lift your arms above your head