>the story of a level 1 adventurer who hasnt chosen a class

>>51687469
Most 1st level characters don't start out with a magical sword or mithril chainmail.

>>51687695
Says who?

>>51687469
Shit's on you.
He's got +3 equipment AND a magic McGuffin.

>the story of a 250 point Dungeon Fantasy GURPS character, who spent all his points on Luck variants, Destiny, Serendipity, Allies and Signature Gear

For one thing, his campaign had next to no combat.

Considering he didn't give in to the ring completely until the very end of the campaign, he put a lot of points into willpower. Oh sure the thing ate away at him like crazy, but compare him to Boromir, who was corrupted almost instantly without even fucking wearing the thing - and he was considered a pretty solid guy before then.

>>51688121
>Considering he didn't give in to the ring completely until the very end of the campaign, he put a lot of points into willpower
That's all Racial Bonus, he failed at the end. Unlike his friend who didn't just rely on Racial Bonus and actually put points into Willpower.

>>51688155
Nah Frodo had Willpower on top of his racials, it's just that rolls to resist the ring got higher each time he made a check.

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>The story of a level 10 Warlock who had to spend training time before he could use each one of his class abilities.

>>51688264
Sam was making mounting checks too, if not quite as bad, and then wore the thing into Mordor, and proceeded to scare the shit out of Orcs and such.

>>51688287
Yeah, Sam was a bad ass motherfucker and is the best character in the entire trilogy. But he still didn't have a corrupting major artifact dangling around his neck for 95% of the trip there.

>>51688155
>>51688287
Sam wore the Ring for a fraction of the time Frodo did, and Tolkien himself said that nobody had the actual willpower required to throw the Ring in the Cracks of Doom on purpose. Literally impossible. It had to be an accident.

>>51688311
I always liked the theory that Frodo inadvertently used the Ring to cast a curse on Gollum when he agreed to let him help then get to Mordor. And that's why Gollum died after grabbing it from him.

>>51687695
Old D&D has rules for inheriting sweet shit from your previous PCs, so.

>>51688337
In the books, during a fraction of a second, Sam could see Frodo casting the image of an elf lord while taking Gollum's oath.

Sam was the true hero of the story.

>>51688406
What does the elf lord image mean?

>>51687469
Eh. He was the NPC everyone had to escort.

People complain all the time that an eagle could throw the ring into the volcano and that would be it.

But wouldn't the eagle be corrupted super quickly by the ring?

>>51688441
>everyone had to escort
>disappears a third of the way through the campaign
>the PCs go off and fight orcs and forget about him

I was going to make a joke about this being the easiest escort mission ever, but now I think about it, this would actually be totally normal for players. Expected, even.

>>51688519

>Samwise wasn't there

He's the real hero of those stories.

>>51688479
There's that, and the fel beasts, and Sauron can conjure weird storms and dark clouds and shit too.

>>51687469
Frodo was just Samwise's companion/cohort NPC.

>>51688479
The eagles were dicks anyway. They never got involved unless they were certain their involvement would result in zero eagle casualties and guaranteed success of the task at hand. They're basically the book's equivalent to that one party member who hides in the trees during the fight, then comes down to claim some of the loot once it's all clear.

>>51688428
It means he was using some high tier magic when he had Gollum swear that oath.

>>51688479
It'd get killed by the Nazgul's Fel Beasts before it got close.

>>51688479
Absolutely. They were fierce and proud creatures. They'd fall quicker than Boromir or Isildur, no question. Rule the world with an iron beak and so forth.

>>51689186
also the eagles were something like the "last pure good" in the world so Sauron would've literally been able to sense them if they got anywhere near. There's a reason they were hiding out in the far northern mountains.

>>51689549
>Rule the world with an iron beak and so forth.
I like you.

>>51688121
>Boromir corruption meme
Boromir wasn't weak he just consciously believed using the ring as a weapon against Sauron to save his people in Gondor was the right and true thing to do.

Boromir was like a WW2 US Marine sick of fighting in the Pacific Islands tasked with helping desk jockeys at the Manhattan Project to destroy their weapons and research for the greater good. These bombs could Deus Machina the war in a week but we can't let that happen! Doesn't take much corruption to reconvince that Marine using the bombs was right.

Sure we know that the Council of Elrond were correct but that's how it seemed to Boromir.

>>51688479
>People complain all the time that an eagle could throw the ring into the volcano and that would be it.
>But wouldn't the eagle be corrupted super quickly by the ring?

While that "question" is usually a trolling attempt, you seem to be asking it sincerely.

As the others have pointed out, flying to Mt. Doom would show up to quickly on Sauron's "radar" so to speak and he had all sorts of countermeasures available like Nazguls on the flying Fell Beasts, a couple million orcs to garrison the mountain, etc. You also couldn't simply throw the damn thing in the volcano's crater. You had to enter those caverns and toss it into the Crack of Doom.

The other reason involves what the Eagles were. Please note the capitalization because it's important. There are Eagles and eagles in LOTR. The Eagles are a type of Maia. They're akin to Gandalf, Saruman, Tom Bombadil, and even Sauron.

The Eagles are descended from Thorondor, an Airbus-sized fucker who was sent to Middle Earth during the 1st Age by Manwe to help the Elves. He and the other Eagles did all sorts of air rescue work and fought Morgoth's dragons along with Earendil during the War of Wrath.

Having an Eagle fly the Ring into Mordor is like having Gandalf, Elrond, Galadriel, or some other VIP carry it. You'd basically be shouting "HEY ASSHOLE! IT'S OVER HERE!"

The Ring is also more tempting the more power you already have. Boromir fails because of this while Saruman never saw it and still wants it. Gandalf and Elrond both avoid handling it when they can. Galadriel voluntarily renouncing it earns her parole from the Valar. As a Maia, an Eagle like Gwaihir would be as tempted as the others.

So, you needed to sneak the Ring into Mordor to get past Sauron's "radar" and VIPs like the Maiar and High Elves couldn't really be trusted with it long term.

>>51689736
>The Eagles are descended from Thorondor, an Airbus-sized fucker
Who was his wife?

>>51689769
An airbus?

>>51689769
>Who was his wife?

Your mother.

>>51689836
>An airbus?

It's a big passenger jet like the 747, dipshit.

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>>51689858
I get that it wasn't particularly funny but fuck son, calm down

>>51687733
No one likes your meme game.

>>51689769
Another giant Eagle, bro. Obviously.

>>51688287
The Ring's attempts to seduce Sam with promises of power always amuse me.

>you like gardens, well here, have the biggest garden in the world!
>well that's just stupid, how would any one person tend a garden that big?
>...fucking hobbits, I swear next time I'm staying at the bottom of that fucking river.

>>51688287
>>51688309
http://literarystarbucks.com/post/100685425353/frodo

>>51689736
Don't forget that the Eagles actually have their own job, which is watching for the battle at the end of the world and being ready for it. Anything else risks drawing them away from that, especially if any of their number die in the process.

The main reason they come and help Gandalf all the time is because Gwaihir likes him and owes him a couple of favours.

>>51689736
Tom Bombadil isn't a Maiar, he's something else entirely

>>51690008
It's more of a meme to hate GURPS for no reason than to play or mention it, at this point.

>>51687695
Frodo only started with the ring.
He got sword and armor later.

>>51689674
>Boromir wasn't weak he just consciously believed using the ring as a weapon against Sauron to save his people in Gondor was the right and true thing to do.
Wow sounds exactly like how the ring corrupts people. Of fucking course they think they're doing the right thing.

>>51688337

What do you mean, inadvertently? He's well aware of the consequences of Gollum swearing his oath on the "Precious".

The thing about Gollum throwing himself into the fires comes later, in Mordor itself, and again, seems to be quite intentional.

>>51689186

And just orcs shooting arrows.

>>51689674
The psychological aspect is part of the ring's power. Boromir wasn't weak, he was actually pretty justified and that's what makes the ring so terrifying.

The willpower against the ring isn't just resisting a vague mystical pull it's resisting your own nature and desires.

>>51690555
Yeah I love that bit. Sam's the only guy who manages to tell The Ring to fuck off.

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>>51688279
>Warlock
Nah. Harry Potter wizards are some kinda weird ass sorcerer/wizard combo. They have to be born with the ability to use magic and at least part of the strength of their spells comes from their force of personality (Sorcerer, CHA), but the actual spells rely on rote memorization and understanding of magical theory (Wizard, INT)

I'd say that translates to getting your spells known (and maybe spells per day, if it's Vancian) from INT and their spells DC from CHA

>>51694668
This raises the question: Was Sam's player a That Guy or a This Guy?

>>51695167

There's also the fact that warlocks are a whole other thing in the HP universe, which is a title similar to someone being knighted in medieval times.

>>51695193
what is a This Guy

>>51688309
>Not Paladin Samwise
>Scourge Of Barad-dûr
>Savior Of The Fellowship

>>51695404
The opposite of That Guy

>>51695404
Know your heritage, newfriend

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/This_Guy

>>51688287
>>51688309
>>51695471
Sam wasn't just a Good Guy. Sam was a Best Guy.

>>51688551
go to bed samwise

>>51689736
>Galadriel voluntarily renouncing it earns her parole from the Valar

Elaborate on this? Parole for doing what?

>>51695754

Not him, but it's fairly involved.


Go WAAAAY back, to when the Noldor left Valinor and returned to Middle-Earth. While Feanor was all hot to regain the Silmarils, part of the motives wasn't just to regain the shiny rocks, or even to fight the Big Evil; The Elves didn't exactly like being at the bottom of the totem pole in Valinor, and wanted to carve out realms for themselves in Arda.


So what do you see during the 1st age? The Noldor show up, kick the shit out of a bunch of orcs, take one look at Thangorordrim (sp?), decide it's too hard to actually press the thing home, and fuck off and masturbate for a bit over 400 years, the bulk of the first age, only attacking Morgoth's forces when they attack the Elves. They're FAR more interested in ruling their own realms and prosecuting their feuds with each other, which is why they eventually go down one at a time.

Galadriel was right up there with the rest of them, and although her backstory was constantly revised, she wanted to rule a realm more than most of the Noldor, which is one of the reasons she married into a "lower caste" of Elf, and ruled over a group of Nandorin. She wasn't allowed and possibly wasn't interested in returning to Valinor at the end of the first age, because deep down, she still wanted power, she wanted to rule, an unchanging ELVEN realm, as opposed to one set up by the Valar.

And that's why the Elves tried to make the Rings in the second age. Remember, the Elven Rings aren't weapons or instruments of dominating others like most of the rest, they're tools of preservation, for creating an unchanging Elven paradise, and her usage is in part what befuddles the Fellowship of the sense of the passage of time when they're in Lorien.

Galadriel, when put to the test of Frodo offering the Ring, finally makes the morally pure choice, she gives up her power for a greater good, rather than trying to cling to her realm and grasp for all the power she can.

>>51695754
Joining Feanor and travelling over the sea to middleearth. She didn't really like Feanor in any way, but when he took ship, she sailed with him and so she became "cursed" too. As in, not permitted to go back to Valinor. IIRC.

>>51688155

Sam resisted the ring for like a day; Frodo carried it for months or maybe years.

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>>51694668
>>51690555
>His thought turned to the Ring, but there was no comfort there, only dread and danger. No sooner had he come in sight of Mount Doom, burning far away, than he was aware of a change in his burden. As it drew near the great furnaces where, in the deeps of time, it had been shaped and forged, the Ring's power grew, and it became more fell, untameable except by some mighty will. As Sam stood there, even though the Ring was not on him but hanging by its chain about his neck, he felt himself enlarged, as if he were robed in a huge distorted shadow of himself, a vast and ominous threat halted upon the walls of Mordor. He felt that he had from now on only two choices: to forbear the Ring, though it would torment him; or to claim it, and challenge the Power that sat in its dark hold beyond the valley of shadows. Already the Ring tempted him, gnawing at his will and reason. Wild fantasies arose in his mind; and he saw Samwise the Strong, Hero of the Age, striding with a flaming sword across the darkened land, and armies flocking to his call as he marched to the overthrow of Barad-dur. And then all the clouds rolled away, and the white sun shone, and at his command the vale of Gorgoroth became a garden of flowers and trees and brought forth fruit. He had only to put on the Ring and claim it for his own, and all this could be.

>In that hour of trial it was his love of his master that helped most to hold him firm; but also deep down in him lived still unconquered his plain hobbit-sense: he knew in the core of his heart that he was not large enough to bear such a burden, even if such visions were not a mere cheat to betray him. The one small garden of a free gardener was all his need and due, not a garden swollen to a realm; his own hands to use, not the hands of others to command.

>'And anyway all these notions are only a trick, he said to himself.

>>51687469
>hasnt chosen a class yet
He's a level 1 hobbit.

>>51687469
>but with loaded dice
DM rolls all the dice. Behind a screen.
No need to load them.

>>51695834
Are you high? You can't just make shit up.

>>51695907
>deep down in him lived still unconquered his plain hobbit-sense
The greatest and most powerful force in middle-earth. If some pointy eared gits in ancient times had had this rare and wonderful gift history would have been much different. Also less dark.

>Hey mister elf, wanna save the world and relight the Two Trees?
>FUCK OF AND STOP LOOKING AT MY SHINY ROCKS OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU!

I'm pretty sure Tolkien said somewhere that if Samwise had the ring from the start, he still would have succeeded. Frodo was doomed from the start.

>>51696034
Hobbit's not a class.

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>The story of a CoC player who went just a little too far into eldritch lore

>>51698799

In basic D&D they are

>>51698996
No edition of D&D has both Hobbit and race-as-class.

>>51699026
LBB/OD&D and Holmes had de-facto race-as-class.

this is a good reminder that I really do need to reread these books

>>51689736

You're trying to hard.

The real reason is because the books aren't about dropping the ring into the volcano - it's about the journey.

>>51699102
De-facto is not the same as actual.

>>51689836
It's a big plane for carrying people, but that's not important right now.

>>51698103
No he's pretty much spot on

>>51690677
>he's something else entirely
Which is a whole other issue

>>51699173
If you were a Dwarf, you played a Fighting-Man with Dwarf powers.
If you were a Hobbit, you played a Fighting-Man with Hobbit powers.
If you were an Elf, you alternated between playing a Fighting-Man with Elf powers and a Magic-User with Elf powers.

If you were a Human, you played a Fighting-Man with no level cap.
If you were Questionably Human, you played a Magic-User with no level cap.
If you were a Human named Van Helsing, you played a Vampire-Hunter with no level cap.

>>51687695
>>51692537
Thank You! I was about to loose my shit that no one had pointed this out yet... On /tg/...

>>51689971
I chuckled.

>>51695193
Sam was the ultimate This Guy..

He was happy to support and follow Frodo until the bitter end.

He never gave up and even carried the ring and resisted its temptations.

Sam was the man

>>51687469
Frodo's class is landed gentry--scion. The Shire is Wales, the breadbasket of England. In other words, Frodo was the king of Campbellian farmer boy heroes, before campbell.

>>51700216
>If you were a Hobbit, you played a Fighting-Man with Hobbit powers.
Exactly, so hobbit's not a class in and of itself.

>>51700595
If you choose to be a Hobbit, you give up the opportunity to make a choice of class.
You can nit-pick the semantics, but it is race-as-class in all but the name.

Not that it's a nit worth picking, Moldvay only codified race-as-class for clarity's sake.

>>51688264
Well part of it is that the ring doesn't just tempt you, it temps you in ways that make you more like Sauron when you resist. Even if you successfully resist its temptation by steely force of will, after a year of steely willfulness you've become a pretty driven, self possessed dominator of adversity. Spend another year crushing the down the ring's power on you, and another, until the ring beats you or you become the iron fisted lord, of unshakeable vision and utter efficiency, that can dominate it and weild its power. At that point you're indistinguishable from Sauron, because the ring is a device that contains the greater part of Sauron's soul, and is itself sentient, and much like Sauron, it only cooperates with Sauron.

>>51698360
On the other hand his secret superpower is being a filthy peasant.

>>51695193
Sam was originally an NPC follower of Frodo. Boromir's player took over after he died, hence the whole badass later on.

>>51692537
Now, it's been a while, but I'm pretty sure Bilbo gave him the sword and mail pretty dang early. As I recall that was in Rivendell, and everything before that was (in vidya terms) basically the tutorial section.

>>51687469
Haven't people statted out what the characters in LotR likely are, and the martial types are only level 6ish? Aside from Gandalf and the Hobbits, of course, but Gandalf hides his power level and the Hobbits level up over the course of the story.

>>51704348
Tutorial section was up to Tom Bombadil actually. But the movies cut all that stuff out.

>>51690008
Anon, he was talking about GURPS, not D&D.

>>51698828
Nah. It's the story of a D&D player in CoC, unable to comprehend that some shit is better left undisturbed.

>>51701171
Honestly that's pretty cool. Never thought of it like that.

>>51701171

It doesn't have to trick you into wielding it; It just needs you to realize how much easier it all could be with a touch of well-managed power.

Lord knows, You're a good guy right. Even if you're too weak to wield it, that just means you need to harden the fuck up. You'll grow into it with time, and you'll be the same good and kind ruler when you get there.

Promise.

>>51701171
>>51704659

/tg/ is never better than when it produces posts like this.

Who would have believed that reading thoughtful analysis would be more satisfying than the constant "hurr durr why no eegulls depr herp" shitposting?

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>>51699259

>>51687695
>don't start out with a magical sword or mithril chainmail
>start out

You realize his adventure starts before he gets that shit, right?

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>>51695834
>>51695754
As an aside, Galadriel is very morally grey. Rohan men call her a witch, and she basically kills any men who enter Laurelindorenan. The fellowship was the only men accepted in the forest since ages ago.

She always was the most militant and xenophobic of the elves. Not surprising, seeing she's in the family of 'biggus dickus' Fëanor.

>>51707175
Oh sweet Lord dat ass!

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>>51687469
As much as it's an imperfect and in many ways even an *unfinished* game, Strike!'s got an alright hook for that.

>>51687695
He rolled for it.

>>51687695
He's already probably Rogue 3 by the time he gets his hands on the loot.

>>51699259
Is it a big pretty white plane with red stripes, curtains in the windows and wheels?

>>51707175
FUCKING FËANOR AND HIS FUCKING SILMARILS

Speaking of silmarils; do you guys reckon the Arkenstone was the silmaril Maedhros took with him when he lept into the fiery chasm?

>>51710899
Abso-fucking-lutely. We can only be grateful that Galadriel never laid eyes on the bloody thing. It is in the tomb of Thorin so the prophesy Mandos made of them is still correct and it is still in the earth.

>>51710899

No, and the entire theory is retarded. For starters, the Arkenstone is worked, and the Silmarils were impervious to harm. Secondly, the Arkenstone has no inner light, just reflects other lights around it, wheras the light of the Silmaril was its primary characteristic.

>>51710899
>>51711234

The Arkenstone isn't a Silmaril, you stupid fucks.

Bilbo sneaked out of Erebor and gave the Arkenstone to Gandalf, Thranduil, and Bard in an attempt to stave off the looming battle between the Dwarfs on one side and the Elves and Men on the other. If it had been a Silmaril, Gandalf and Thranduil would have immediately recognized it as such and would have NEVER returned it to the Dwarfs.

As a Maia, Gandalf would have seen the Silmarils in Valinor before they were stolen. As a Sindar alive during the First Age, Thranduil would have seen the Silmarils after their recovery during the War of Wrath.

>>51711689
Plus Bilbo already stumbled by coincidence upon a legendary artifact during his adventure. Two would be pushing it.

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>>51711689
But dude, it was really shiny. Really, really, shiny.

>>51711761
>stackingtemplates.png

>>51689736
the main complain is why the eagle didnt fly frodo to around minas Tirith from he beginning, effectively cutting 3+ years of walking.

>>51711799
It would still be getting a lot of attention and put the Ring near beings that would be highly susceptible to its corruption and aren't supposed nor willing to get involved in the other races' conflicts.

The real plothole of LotR is why Sauron didn't spare some orcs to guard the Cracks of Doom.

>>51699259
Keked heartily

>>51711799
>the main complain is why the eagle didnt fly frodo to around minas Tirith from he beginning, effectively cutting 3+ years of walking.

Your grasp of the issues involved is as piss poor as your ability to compose a coherent sentence.

Transporting the Ring via Eagle anywhere is going to draw Sauron's attention because the Eagles are a type of Maia. Taking the Ring to Minas Tirith where both Denethor and Boromir backed by their army can succumb to it's blandishments is idiocy. Frodo's journey from Rivendell to Mordor takes approximately 6 months and not 3+ years.

>>51711689
>As a Maia, Gandalf would have seen the Silmarils in Valinor before they were stolen.


Not that I disagree with your theory, but think back to Gandalf's statements about the Palantiri to Pippin. They were made by Feanor, he thinks. He's not sure. He seems to have a great deal of trouble remembering everything that went on before he took up the Istari form.

>>51711912

>The real plothole of LotR is why Sauron didn't spare some orcs to guard the Cracks of Doom.

Because he guarded all the entranceways to his realm, and the reserves for the inner lines of defense were called away to deal with Aragorn's army, since remember, Sauron believes that Aragorn's the one with the ring.

>>51712635

It's even less than that. They set out on December 25th from Rivendell, and they destroy the Ring on March 25th, so that's 3 months. And they spend the bulk of one of those months in Lorien.

>>51695167
Dark magic is sorcery, or "witchcraft."
Light/domestic magic is wizardry.

That's why the school title references both of them distinctly.

>>51711799
The quest to destroy the ring did not take that long.

>>51711912
He was confident in the ring's ability to corrupt whoever possessed it, thus negating of any danger of someone having the willpower to destroy it in the first place.

>>51714419
>That's why the school title references both of them distinctly.
I'm pretty sure it's because women are called witches and men wizards. Rowling's hardly known for her extensive research.

>>51714419

Except Hogwarts doesn't teach dark magic. Durmstrang did.

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so is objective party ranking
gandalf>>>aragorn>legolas>boromir>gimli>>>>>>>>samwise>the other two>>>>>>>>>>frodo
?

>>51687469
>Movies are tabletop rpgs 1:1
die in a fire

>>51694358
>The willpower against the ring isn't just resisting a vague mystical pull it's resisting your own nature and desires.

Indeed. Part of why Gandalf didn't want it. He knew he'd want to go about doing good with it and the ring would twist that strong desire towards its own ends.

Hobbits are more "resistant" due to the simple fact that they have little in terms of ambition don't really give a fuck about anything other than living a simple life of personal comfort. Gollum got it and spent the next couple centuries looking at it and eating fish in a cave. Bilbo got it, reluctantly finished his adventure, and then proceeded to live a nice and comfortable life avoiding his meddlesome in-laws and nosy neighbors. That's all they wanted in life.

But put the ring in the hands of someone who gives a fuck about ending poverty, restoring their lost kingdom, fighting injustice, defeating evil, or saving the world and it gets a lot more dangerous.

>>51718233
Can we please ban pics of Agent Orange on anything but /pol.

>>51718572
>movies

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>>51719045
never

>>51708412
There's a reason she was considered one of the fairest of the elves and feanor wanted her to ride his baloney pony

>>51695167
Man, Rowling really fucked up her message by making the Death Eaters right.
>doesn't matter whether you're a muggleborn or a pureblood, anyone can be a great wizard
>except there's no such thing as a muggleborn, all wizards have at least one wizard ancestor
>the wizards punished by the Muggleborn-Tegistration Committee just didn't do their family tree homework hard enough
>purebloods have a logical foothold, though nobody knows this

>>51719435
The spooky question now is, if You have to be related to a wizard, where did the original wizarding bloodlines come from?

>>51719457
Interspecies children are possible. Fleur's grandmother is a veela and is supernaturally good-looking. Hagrid is half-giant and seems entirely magic-proof. Ron jokes that someone must be part-troll and no one laughs. And hey, Merlin existed, and all his stories say he's not fully human either. And all of these people seem to have their own innate magical talents.

It's possible the original wizards were created by interspecies couples.

>>51719511
Through dick, unity

>>51719435
>>51719511
That being said, the death eaters supposing that muggleborns were inferior is also proven fallacious, as many muggle born are quite powerful and accomplished. It doesn't seem to matter what degree of wizarding blood you have, so long as you have it, though I suppose over super long term you might see diminishing returns due to diffusion you just need to fuck another fairy to get a hot steamy magical injection back in the bloodline.

>>51719817
>It doesn't seem to matter what degree of wizarding blood you have, so long as you have it, though I suppose over super long term you might see diminishing returns due to diffusion you just need to fuck another fairy to get a hot steamy magical injection back in the bloodline.
>implying Hermione

>>51704461
Oh didn't you hear? "Meme" now just means "thing that I don't like but other people won't stop liking, which triggers me"

>>51695860
>maybe years.
There's no maybe. It's been fucking forever since I read the books, but he's had the ring for years before he even leaves the shire if I remember.

>>51701171
>because the ring is a device that contains the greater part of Sauron's soul, and is itself sentient, and much like Sauron, it only cooperates with Sauron.
I remember reading a blog post that included a list of all the ways you could acquire an item in fiction ranked by how much narrative power the method granted the object. At the top of the list was "made it yourself", including the One Ring and Iron Man Mk1.

>>51720051
What's that supposed to mean? Hermione is an excellent wizard. She proves hard work can match natural talent

>>51720426
19 Years if I recall.

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>>51719045
>triggered
He's going to be your president for the next 8 years, you're gonna have to get used to it.

>>51719435
Fantastic Beasts & Where to Find Them confirmed as canon that muggles and wizards are physiologically different, which means that Voldemort did absolutely nothing wrong.

>>51715688
They have a lots of books about black magic, even if hidden. It's hinted that Dumbledor took away a lot of them when he became headmaster, maybe he also did some cuts in programs

>>51700666
I've never heard of a mechanic that's more objectively retarded than race-as-class.

>>51719435
>>except there's no such thing as a muggleborn, all wizards have at least one wizard ancestor

when did they say this?

>>51720964
Strong words from someones whose president is in bed with the Russians.

>>51720426
Does it really count as having it if it's just sitting in a box in the corner?

>>51721286

Alignment tongue.

That's right. You can speak to your horse, because you're both true neutral. If you're flung to another plane of existence, you can of course communicate with everyone of the same alignment.

>>51699026
LotFP would like a word with you.

>>51718233
>Boromir better than Gimili
Hmm, not sure about that one.

I'd put Gimili and Legolas on par with one another. The movies make Legolas look so much better than he was in the books.

>>51724547

Not him, but I would put Boromir better than either the elf or the dwarf. Consider, that the two of them kill 41 and 42 orcs respectively at the Battle of the Hornburg, and that's at a defensive fortification and with lots of allied soldiers around to help them out if they get into trouble.


Boromir was able to kill 20 orcs, alone and unaided (unless you count 2 nigh worthless hobbits), before the orcs retreat and shoot him full of arrows.

He's also significantly stronger than either of them, considering the portage of the boats down the Anduin.

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>>51721286
It helps if you remember that we're actually talking about archetypes, and 'class' is just old-timey wargame jargon bleeding in.
And races ARE archetypes, there IS such a thing as a stereotypical Elf. If I say Dwarf, a general sort of character and skill-set immediately springs to your mind.
If you wanted to play a snowflake, you could ask to reskin something or (as Gygax&Arneson's players did all the time) ask the referee to make you a one-off homebrew class.

>>51723828
How 'bout you actually read the rules, friendo?
Alignment tongues are the absence of a language. They're about pantomine, gestures, and tone to communicate EXTREMELY simple concepts.
Imagine your trying to help a tourist, but you don't know any common languages. Or a dog is pissing on your rug, and you try to shoo it away.
>You can speak to your horse,
Or yes, imagine how humans try to convey intent to horses.

The implication is that if you come across something probably a monster that doesn't match your alignment almost certainly Neutral, then your thought processes are SO DIFFERENT that NO AMOUNT of attempt to communicate (without language) will convey ANY intent.

>>51725328
>How 'bout you actually read the rules, friendo?


I have, clearly, however, you have not.

>Alignment tongues are the absence of a language. They're about pantomine, gestures, and tone to communicate EXTREMELY simple concepts.

Comes, not from any of the rulebooks, but from an interview with Gygax. The RAW, from Dungeons & Dragons, Basic Rules, page B11, states as follows

>Each alignment has a secret language of passwords, hand signals, and other body motions. Player characters and intelligent monsters will always know their alignment languages. They will also recognize when another alignment language is being spoken, but will not understand it. Alignment languages are not written down, nor may they be learned unless a character changes alignment. When this happens, the character forgets the old alignment language and starts using the new one immediately.

Notes the "passwords", and how nothing at all is intended for this language to communicate EXTREMELY simple concepts.

>The implication is that if you come across something probably a monster that doesn't match your alignment almost certainly Neutral, then your thought processes are SO DIFFERENT that NO AMOUNT of attempt to communicate (without language) will convey ANY intent.

No, the intent is that we're borrowing heavily from the Conan books, which had a Thieves cant that did transcend continents, and that the thieves shouldn't be the only ones with a secret language. Furthermore, since the speaking of an alignment language, even if not understood, is instantaneous, it clearly shows that at least the action of communication is itself communicable, no matter how different your thought processes are.

>>51719435
Magic is a switch. You either have it or you don't. Yes, it's genetic, but pureblood beliefs that a magical pedigree makes you stronger is pointedly false. At best, you have a better education at the start of Hogwarts.

We don't know if that particular gene is dominant or recessive, and indeed 'seeding' humanity by careful interbreeding with muggles could be a perfectly valid long term strategy.

>>51719435
Except, consistent inbreeding with Purebloods creates Squibs.

And the Death Eaters are right in that Muggleborns have Wizard Ancestors but considering that a Wizard's strength depends on their intelligence and drive more than innate ability, they were also very wrong.

>>51721405
I hope one day you will be taught that Russia is a capitalist country. Possibly even more so than the US.

>>51721405
>whose president is in bed with the Russians

Strong words, from a liberal that believes anything people tell him.

>>51729716
>Trump and Russia aren't working together, they both said so!

>>51688121

Well, you get those shorty saving throws. Frodo dumped everything into Constitution and Wisdom(despite the Halfling racial penalty to wisdom).

So he was probably looking at a 7 for his save vs. spell.

>>51721397
Rowling confirmed it in Pottermore.