JumpChain CYOA Thread #1336: Making your daydreams better since

So what's the best change one can make to the Dragon Ball canon? I wanna leave this world better than I found it.

>>51660585
Preventing Gohan from slumping in his training after the Cell Games.

And killing Satan.

>>51660605
>Preventing Gohan from slumping in his training after the Cell Games.
Will do.
>And killing Satan.
Why??

>>51660605
>killing satan
But then Fat Buu would never go good guy.

>>51660605
>killing Satan.
But without his porn the majin race would never become a thing.

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>>51660665

So to those of you who have been posting the female monkey girls, who I assume to be Saiyans, what's the deal with them? Culture, behavior and all that?

Also, where do you get those great pics? Please post more pics.

>>51660585

That's a real good question considering everyone is pretty well off by the end of the series, all things considering. The only actual people who didn't get happy endings were like. . .Tien and Yamcha, I guess.

>>51660688
I think it was mentioned in a DBZ MMO that Buu didn't start making other members of his race until he found some of Hercule's porn. Then he made a wife, and then they made other Majins. Could be completely off the mark about that though.

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>>51660696
I have a few monkey queen ones that work. They seem to enjoy a good fight, they love to eat but dont get fat, they like to have all kinds of crazy fun, and they never age past their prime. Whats not to love? Also the tail.

>>51660634
Beyond being an annoying glory-hog who blatantly steals credit from better men. (Even though, given their characters it was just as well someone else took the credit - He couldn't have known that in advance of doing so.)

Beyond his horrible style.

Beyond the fact that he drunkenly tried to pick a fight with Beerus and nearly destroyed the world in his drunked ignorance, saved only by the fact that he fell because of his drunkeness.

Beyond so much else I can't even remember the amount of cringey-worthy stuff he gets up to.

Beyond that... No Reason. Hail Satan!

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>>51660696
>>51660745
Yeah these are female sun wukong but still they are close. Arent saiyans based on him anyway? Thats all Im postimg for now, baack to work with me.

>>51660698
>Tien
I think he just becomes a farmer and marries Launch. Which isn't too bad. I could help him train and stay relevant?
>and Yamcha
I can definitely help him get over his fear of women.

Did Mardukth say that she would post the updated Lunars WIP today? Or am I misremebering?

>>51660772
Both of those guys deserve a happier ending.

I like how DB Multiverse treated them. Showing that they could be awesome if things had been just a little bit different.

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>>51660762
Ok 1 more that could easily be a ss4 girl. Enough wwifu spam from me.

>>51660772
>I think he just becomes a farmer and marries Launch. Which isn't too bad. I could help him train and stay relevant?
Oh, had no idea he settled down and married. That sounds pretty sweet actually.
>I can definitely help him get over his fear of women.
Yeeeah, finally being something other than a butt monkey would be a good happy ending for him.

>>51660758
None of that warrants murder.

In the Highschool DxD jump, it doesn't mention any limitations on using your Evil Pieces. Does that mean they're Mutation Pieces, or is it just Jump-chan fiat to simplify things for us? Because having a full set of Mutation Pieces has some interesting implications for interactions with Sacred Gears, given what happened when Issei got some.

>>51660876
He also almost gets earth destroyed multiple times.

>>51660889
Why weren't those as relevant as "has bad fashion sense" for reasons to kill him then? He's really not that bad a dude.

>>51660901
To be fair he has REALLY bad fashion sense and hair. But without him we don't get pan.

>>51660901
Hi style (of which his fachion is only part) is like Marmite: You either like it, or loathe it.

I am of the latter group.

But more importantly:
>>51660889

Kill Satan before he kills everyone else with his grandstanding stupidity.

>>51660934
>>51660889

But you are forgetting you friccken moron that he also help saved the earth too from buu

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>>51660688
Ha funnily enough I know this one.

Satan happens to have a soft spot for adult novels, the kind that rivals Icha Icha but also has an emphasis on relationships. Buu wanted that so he made a female buu.

>>51660934
>>51660758
You guys do know that back in Dragon Ball he's a really good guy right? He kinda got PTSD from the time Tao killed his master or something and he's been kinda fucked up in the head He can't fight foes that he doens't know the name of nor crazy strong people. Get to him young and raise him yourself instead of killing him make him an asset.

The only thing you have to change is to prevent the robber from shooting Buu's dog which would prevent kid Buu from happening

>>51660949
Whoa, no need for hearsh language.

Obvious you are a Satan Worshipper.

I respect your religious affliaition, but please understand that I don't believe as you do.

Also, do you think 1 good deed corrects a host of ill deeds.

If I save a group of people, am I allowed to get away with having killed, to tried to kill, twice as many before?

>>51660949
Yes who also could have been taken care of if the z warriors hadn't been slacking off.

>>51660980
Admittedly thats a bad example, it implies too much deliberate malice, that Satan clearly is devoid of.

Of course if you subscribe to the view that there is no such thing as evil only stupidity, then it manages to fit anyway.

>>51660980
In the right context, yes. Who are the people you saved, and who are the people you're going to kill?

>>51660986
True, and one of the key people in that group was Gohan.

Powerful enough to beat Cell, then stopped training and was too weak to meaningfully help against Buu, either stopping his unsealing or fighting him.

I wonder what couold have caused his interest in training to flag, could it be because someone stole credit for his greatest accomplishment?

In that cause, should we not blame Satan?

>>51661022
No, Gohan was never really interested in accolades. He stopped training so hard because he didn't want that life.

>>51661022
IIRC he never liked fighting or training, and was traumatized by the Cell games.

>>51661013
Assume that they are in both groups evenly average people, neither saints nor sinners, just peoplpe trying to live their lives. Assume equal proportaions of all broad demographics.

If you feel the need to give emotional weight, assume that both groups have and equal amount of people that you care about, otherwise disregard.

Now can you answer?

>>51661022
No, do you even know the series? Almost none of the Z Fighters really care for worldwide fame like that. No one that actually did anything past the middle point of the Cell Arc in any case.

>>51661031
>>51661035
I thought it was chichis fault.

>>51661031
>>51661035

Your right of course, that things went as Gohan would probably have wanted. But, if he had been recognised as the man who beat Cell, he would have trained harder, or there at least would have been some pressure to at least maintain his power. He wouldn't have been happier, but he would likely have been stronger when the Buu Arc events took place, and that would have had an impact.

Also, even thugh, Satan's actions of taking credit would ultimately suit Gohan, Satan himself could not have known that. Indeed as far as he knew as he was doing it post-cell games, he was taking credit from someone who could squash him like a bug, and yet he still did it. That would tell you what type of person Satan is, if you couldn't already guess from the name.

>>51661053
Oh, then definitely okay. More people I care about will die than are saved, and that's just great. Hey, can I be part of the group that dies?

>>51661066
please see
>>51661097

>>51661097
Yeah, it tells you that he deserves to live out of respect for those depleted uranium spheres he calls testicles.

>>51661106
The whole point of my second sentence was to equalise any emotional element you might have, if you don't understand I will be happy to help you.

Similarly, you can't be in the groups, as you can only realistically be in one or the other and that imposes too much of a bias. You have to look at it objectively.

Unless your being a deliberate asshat.

>>51661176
I'm saying that I want to die but am too much of a coward to do it. Also that I care about a lot of people who are real shitlords and need to die too. So if Mr. Satan could cause our deaths, yeah, I'd say it's alright.

>>51661145
Confusing bravery with stupidity.

Have you seen the series? Brave Mr Satan is not, he is consistently shown to be cowardly, full of bluster and bravado. This shouldn't be a surce of contention.. it is in the source material.

Also remember what thread this is and the context, we are talking about what jumper could do to make the DB world a better place. Someone brought up killing Mr Satan.

What difference would his death (or enforceed irrelevence) result in. And what steps could a jumper take to mitigate any bad or maximise any good.

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>>51660978
I just tracked down the exact puppy that would grow up to become that dog, bribed it with kibble and trained it in the ways of gunkata. So when the time came, he just went Christian Bale on that one guy.

Does that count?

>>51660775
Unless I forgot too, I thought Mardukth just said he'd do his best sans guarantees.

>>51661195
Why die when you can play JumpChain and eat icecream instead?

>>51661209
I didn't say he was brave, just that I respect his gumption.

>>51661195
This conversation is going really wierd places.

I've not been on 4chan long, is this normal? Should I get used to this?

>>51661195
He tries to start a fight with beerus. At a party. He is the worst kind of person who is not outright evil.

If you don't know, beerus job is to blow up planets although he does not need an excuse to do it being some kind of alien cat.

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>>51661221
>This conversation is going really wierd places.
>I've not been on 4chan long, is this normal? Should I get used to this?

>>51661221
Yes, and no.

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>>51661221
One should never get used to 4chan. That vaguely uneasy feeling is the sign of a sane brain.

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>>51661211
I'm delirious from a lack of sleep and this is the first post I read.

This puppy now deserves its own movie.
>>51661221
You just kinda get used to it after a while. Then it all becomes TV static noise with the occasional music loop.
>>51661242
...fuck.

>>51661228
So what you're saying is that if I really want to die I should go to Beerus directly instead of just waiting for Mr. Satan to cause it by accident. Thanks.

>>51661221
http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/11262498/

>>51661248
Hey Heavens!
1.In the DBZ jump. Can Planetwide TV Station hijack all the frequencies and broadcast to everyone?
2.Get some sleep honey.

>>51661248
Why do you have all these Ryuki/Madoka crossover pics? I mean, it makes perfect sense, they share a lot of themes. I'm just surprised there's fanart of it.

>>51661258
Beerus or any of the main villains before you are ready. Or hell just punch bulma after vegeta gets with her.

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>>51661248

Bodacious Babes.

>>51661276
>punch bulma
Why? Just hit on her. Same result, more pleasant method.

This is probably the weirdest question to ask, but, if your jumper could show one person their future (companion or otherwise), who would it be, and why?

>>51661286
I mean its just to make sure you die, believe it or not vegeta gives warnings.

>>51661211
Really, Bee is kind of a chump. There are plenty of very successful dogs in the Dragonball Universe. The King of Earth is one. There are dog police, and I don't mean ones trained by K9 units. Get your shit together, Bee, you have no excuse for being so pathetic except your own laziness.

>>51661289
Anakin Skywalker. To try and help him.
I did it in the Clone Wars jump actually. It did not go over well.

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>>51661286
>Not sleeping with her only to arrange Vegeta to find out.

>>51661228
Agreed.

>>51660972
Did not know that. Does make him slightly more sympathetic. But it doesn't excuse, just explain.

Killing Satan all jokes aside, is a really extreme course of action that a competant jumper should not need to consider given the range of options open to them.

I wold personally be satisfied with him simply being made irrelevenat, or shamed with the truth coming out, or reshaped early on to become a completely different person with just the same name and face. Of course then you have to ask yourself if death wouldn't be a cleaner more welcome end.

>>51661289
If I could? I've got Universal Canon, I've got copies of every work of fiction I jump to. I do that all the time. Mostly to villains, to let them realize how badly they're going to fail.

>>51661289
Well my jumper can and I have used this power a lot in the past to try and steer people, but its not so fun so Now I use it to make stuff for people before they ask for it.

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>>51661273
I love both canons to pieces, so naturally I'd grab what little art I could find crossing them over.
>>51661272
Yes.

Soon as I'm done with my coffee.
>>51661284
The legend continues.

>>51661312
Why don't you just put the world in a bottle, Superman?

>>51661289
Harry Potter

I sure he would stop screaming "NO, NO, NO..." after a while.

Poor lad never had a chance.

Jumper to the rescue.

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>>51661325
>The legend continues.

Bodacious Babes

Even when I don't post I am always watching and waiting for you bro

>>51661328
Are you referencing the right post, cause that makes no sense.

>>51661333
You mean like adopting him to an organisation created to protect mankind and destroy evils like vampires, werewolves, ghouls, and other beasties? Possibly with the help of a crazy sadistic yet humerous vampire god?

We can be hp hellsing crossover now?

>>51661361
it exists in fanfiction, and it's pretty terrible.

>>51661312
Go to the past, show young satan his future.

>>51661375
I liked that fanfiction. Malfoy was a good guy.

>>51661333
I take it your referring to Cursed Child, or is it the children's names, marrying Ginny eEalsey, becoming an Auror working in a corrupt miinistry.

Or before that, the Battle of Hogwarts, the quest for the Horcruxes(Horcrui?), the abandonment, the persecution, and rampant bullying enabled by apathetic authority.

I'm being to see why he would be screaming for a while and the role a jumper would have in fixing that world.

And that's just in Britain, I hear that it's even worse in America.

>>51661379
Now that's just cruel.

Do it.

Hail Satan.

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>>51661379
>all this talk about Jumpers being able to defeat or kill Mr. Satan
>THE Mr. Satan, who defeated Cell and brought Majin Buu to the side of good
>The Mr. Satan who is beloved World Champion by the whole world.

I bet you think you can beat Cardcaptor Sakura in a straight fight, too.

Jokes aside, if you REALLY want to derail the way Satan's presented in canon, jump DB, find his younger self, and train him yourself. Make him actually live up to the hype. It'll certainly give Cell a surprise once the Games happen...IF they happen, anyhow.
>>51661353
Slightly creepy but at least you're consistent.

>>51661399
Take all the institutional torture and stupid of britain and multiply it by 5 for america. On the other hand US wizards seem more capable as individuals. They almost seem to have some common sense.

>>51661418
>I bet you think you can beat Cardcaptor Sakura in a straight fight, too.
In a straight fight? No. In a yuri fight? Yes. All of the yes.

>>51661418
As much as I don't like Satan.

I wold read the hell out of a fanfic where Satan was a member of the Z Warrior right from the beginning.

He has style, but without substance I found it personally repellant, but with both style and substance, that I'd like to see. That would be a Satan Redeemed in my eyes.

Anyone know of such a gem?

>>51661427
They also have Queenie.
You know, the Best Girl if Best Girls in the extended HP universe.

Granted, that's because all the others are shit, but still.

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>>51661289
Funny enough, Wakana did this to A!Alucard during our stay in Hellsing. She thought it was unfair that I knew how and where she was going to die and wouldn't share that knowledge, so she circumvented me and showed her directly. The whole London invasion, Anderson and the nail, even Schrodinger.

And she laughed at her. Laughed so hard she started crying blood. When she finally stopped and could speak again, she said. "Thank you for allowing me to enjoy that twice, whelping. Just for that, I shall tell you a secret." I have no idea what she whispered to Wakana. She refused to tell me. When I pressed the issue, she shot me three times in the stomach and dove out a window.

Which put me off the topic, naturally.

But if /I/ had to pick someone to show their future to? Probably Marche from FFTA. I'm planning to take his Drawback and try to talk him down off his ledge. I may have to just directly show him that the world is not any more real or fake than any other world.

>>51661427
Common sense in wizards, surely it's just swamp gas or something.

On the whole though, I find that depressing, yet somehow makes sense in the context of the books.

>>51661450
>He has style,
No he doesn't. All the style he has is terrible ham style.

>>51661242
...That fucking picture hit so close to home, it's no even funny.

>>51661468
Hams style untempered by substance is unfulfilling.

But substance and style is like big juicy gammon joint.

Imagine if you will if Goku has acted like Hercule Satan. Image him shouting into the microphoce, wearing a silly cape and talking WWE style to Cell.

That would have been hilarious.

>>51661501
Maybe to you, what you mean that sounds terrible mainly because I hate WWE.

>>51661518
But to me*

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>>51661301
Y'know what? You have a good point. Now that I think about it Earth's ecosystem IS pretty damn good at ki manipulation as a whole compared to the rest of Universe 7. Which either seems to only have one dominant species that can excel at it, or a bunch of exceptional folks recruited from across the universe by a real estate dynasty. If that one space cop guy's representative of space as a whole, ki users seem to be surprisingly rare out there.

Besides, it's hard for me to stay motivated in a world where almost everything can be literally wished right once someone gathers the dragonballs.

I've got a crapton of tea-based cultivation, lots of spare time on my hands, SCIENCE! and a deficit of fucks to give.

I'ma teach dogs mystical martial arts until I unlock the Legendary Super Canine.

>>51661248
>DoggosentaiX3

>>51661289
At the darkest moment of my first descent into megalomania, I showed Rand al'Thor his future. Oh, and his past as well.

I did it because, well, >>51661333 except much worse. He /never/ stopped screaming NO, NO, NO.

Not until I raised the possibility of trading destinies.

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>>51661501
>WWE style
>not WWF style

>>51661557
Either way it's wrestling, the only reason the really watch it unless you are gay and enjoy seeing them fondle each other is for the big tittied women.

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>>51661418
>Slightly creepy but at least you're consistent.

Bodacious Babes

Don't worry bro if you have any problems you can always tell me bro, I'll understand.

>>51661598
Sorry about you being wrong, have you been aware of your condition long?

>>51661467
Harry potter is a nightmare world.

Are there any sexy aliens in Dragon Ball? Asking for a friend.

>>51661646
Nope, I can just see through bullshit. Fake is fake.

>>51661659
Have you not seen the last couple threads? Saiyan women are literally sex incarnate. Most other alien races in DBZ are either hideous or evil.

These threads always have the most cringe-inducing forced discussion.

>>51661675
>Thinking wrastlin is fake.
Have you told your family yet? This case of being wrong sounds severe. I'm very sorry.

>>51661659
Saiyan and Majin girls are top tier waifus.

>>51661698

https://youtu.be/xat1GVnl8-k

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>>51661418

>>51661705
Oh? Doesn't seem that bad to me other than how to mary sue, the game.

>>51661675
Well, duh. That's what makes it fun, the narratives they set up.

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So after a while of thinking I'm going to adopt. To be exact I'm adopting How to Train Your Dragon Jump and from now on will be putting the screws on to get the Jump in ship shape.

I'm open to suggestions.

>>51661858
Custom dragon companion option with import capability.

The option to be a dragon.

Mega big dragon option with mandatory drawback that you run a hive and protect the little ones.

>>51655887
Fine, whatever. Only once and you can't give yourself personality powers if you boost Power-Up, though.

>>51661858
option of going to book canon and for the book dragons

option of ignoring the tv show?

>>51661675
>Fake is fake.
So is every TV show ever. Of course it's fucking fake, but it's a god damn soap opera but rather than Evil Twins you have people hitting one another.

>>51661858
Inprobably good engineering, like the stuff the mc makes both his leg and the fire sword.

Animal taming perks kinda like his mom and him.

Lots of viking aesthetic stuff like a great hall, I would love a great hall.

A book of dragons (with option to make it update with dragons from each jump you have been to or are in.)

A dragon arena.

Dragon fighting perks.

A boat that is pulled around by some underwater creature.

A dragon looking mask.

A secret valley covered in ice but full of lush vegetation.

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>>51661892
>Custom dragon companion option with import capability.
How custom are we talking? The Dragons of berk alone fill a book with their uniqueness.

>The option to be a dragon.
Already in there.

>Mega big dragon option with mandatory drawback that you run a hive and protect the little ones.
I think I can roll something.

>>51661916
>option of going to book canon and for the book dragons
I can just insert an option to choice if you want one, all three (Movies, TV Show, & Books) or just one or two.

>option of ignoring the tv show?
See above.

>>51661910
....Actually, no. I didn't intend for the perk to be able to power yourself up, only other people. Only giving yourself personality powers. So I'll have to reword that perk.

>>51661947
Don't forget the acrobatics, people flipping and jumping off all sorts of shit.

>>51661963
I just meant custom as a general table that some makers tend to put in their jumps. Things like horns and claws or pebble skin, lightning or fire cloak option, exploding breath, scalding water jets, etc.

>>51661947
You have evil twins all the time as well as bullshit staged cheographed fights.


https://youtu.be/N8x1YePAJvs

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>>51661962
>Inprobably good engineering, like the stuff the mc makes both his leg and the fire sword.
I've already started work on this one, using the old WIP as a base so look at what I've got.

>Animal taming perks kinda like his mom and him.
Going in Drop-In perks.

>Lots of viking aesthetic stuff like a great hall, I would love a great hall.
You know it!

>A book of dragons (with option to make it update with dragons from each jump you have been to or are in.)
With a small scope like dragon I might not make you upgrade it.

>A dragon arena.
Yep.

>Dragon fighting perks.
Warrior tree.

>A boat that is pulled around by some underwater creature.
Not ideal but sure why not.

>A dragon looking mask.
Yep.

>A secret valley covered in ice but full of lush vegetation.
This'll be neato.

>>51661978
I think I can manage that, maybe a little more.

>>51661963

Dragon import

>>51662002
The tone of your words and the link you provided leave me very confused about what you're trying to say. Are you like, ironically calling it bullshit or. . .?

>>51662042
It is bullshit. But it is bullshit that dumbasses love.

>>51662061
You really are that tonedeaf then, gotcha, just making sure.

>>51662008
Gronkle iron items or a recipe for gronkle iron. The stuff is supposedly awesome.

>>51660881
Presumably they're all normal, unless it specifically says otherwise.

>>51662008
An island with a viking town on it would be awesome.

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>>51662137
Gronkle Iron is going to be a Blacksmith Item actually, well it's not going to Gronkle Iron but....

>>51662167
Warrior Capstone Item Found!

>>51662008
>>51661858
Glad to see someone picking this up again. A dragon customization table would be great, both for the background and the dragon companion.

>>51662008
Maybe some sort of 'If you genuinely attempt to right your wrongs then you have a better chance of making friends' or something. That example is prolly too specific, but its all I can think og

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>>51660605
>Killing the best character just because he's a loudmouth DESPITE him being a true hero who stood up to those threatening Earth who even legitimately helped save the world.
You're going to have to learn someday that morality isn't black and white. Just because someone has a lot of bad personality traits, and likes to cheat and bribe his way through fights, doesn't mean he isn't a fundamentally good person. His positive side and actions far outweigh his negatives.

>>51662008
Can we have a con companion option?

>>51662008
>>51662266
Canon companion option, sorry.

>>51661698
>>51661720
Where do you guys go for art of them? Asking for a friend.

>>51662222
>>51662199
Something like you can see the problems that bring different cultures, tribes, or peoples into conflict and have a good idea of how to fix age old conflicts by putting in effort and time as well as a lot of work in a way that allows you to broker peace between ancient enemies? Maybe scaling in difficulty with the enemies and how much they hate each other?

>>51662266
>>51662278
NP on both counts. How does this look.

Canon Companion [-100]: The folks around here are kinda nice and really cool sometimes. So why not invite one of them with you? Don't worry if they have a Dragon or Rider they can hitch a ride to. Two for the price of one, but only the one you paid for gets the things you buy for them later with CP.

>>51662301
Google image search.

>>51661698
They look great, don't get me wrong, but what do we know about them canonically that makes them waifulicious? Is it just /co/ stuff and fanon

>>51662308
This is going to sound weird but if we buy canon companion as a dragon can we have them be our rider? 3 is a crowd.

>>51662308
Looks good to me. Also does this mean that the dragons count as companions?

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>>51661312
If you got him over his fear of ki, he'd probably instantly become stronger than Yamcha. Despite how much you dislike him, he's stated to be at the absolute maximum a human can achieve without ki due to a legitimate dedication to training.

>>51662329
Actually no, kakarots mom was awesome. That is one of the few ones we know about though.

>>51662235
Little late to the party there bub.

>>51662342
Er not really.

>>51662346
I'm on the fence about this actually. Most dragons are about as intelligent as a fairly to very smart cat or dog. Though we see some evidence that states that it might just take time for some cases to develop into full on human-like intellect.

>>51662369
The thing about a consistent thread like this? Everything posted in it is fair game to talk about. This isn't a chatroom or a forum.

>>51661418
>Heavens
What's the longest time I can stay in your DB jumps? from Age 749 to age 778?

>>51662402
more referring to the fact that he was responding to the first post mentioning it, rather than anything like the most recent.

Or are you going to tell me that being so selective is kosher on 4chan?

>>51662436
I read the entire conversation. His initial assertion never really changes.

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>>51662431
That's correct. Specifically, when Age 778 starts is when the jump officially ends if you take both and the time extension drawbacks.

I already explained why I'm not covering Super or Battle of the Gods, but the short version is that it's both still ongoing and is already escalation city. Ain't touching it. Maybe when it's done, but I feel like I've rocked the boat enough already, and I wanna focus on low-power or niche stuff for a while.

>>51662452
Oh I see what's going on.

Well, let's just agree to disagree.

Are any of the races in Neverwinter Nights worth taking?

>>51662398
Ok then so no buying blondy viking girl to be my rider. Fair enough. So will we start before or after the dragon wars?

>>51662561
Oh okay I thought you meant a dragon being the companion Rider there my bad you can do that yeah. The option is their just so you don't have to break up the canon pairings.

>>51662536
Forgotten Realms elves are ugly so not really.

>>51662452
He echoing what's already been said in flowery lanuage. He's not adding anything beyond being patronising to one side of the argument. One that has already finished.

If you had read then you would know that, which makes it clear your defending yourself after doing something stupid.

>>51662645
This is 4chan. What did you expect, Anon?

>>51662645
You come across like you're him and just tired of arguing so you insult anyone that questions your views.

>>51662629
Uh, what? I could see you saying that about Dragonlance elves, but FR elves are basically just athletic humans with pointy ears and an affinity for magic.

>>51662699
It might be him, he kinda has a habit of spacing out every single one of his sentences for some reason.

>>51662708
>but FR elves are basically just athletic humans with pointy ears and an affinity for magic.
Senpai you don't know anything about FR elves. They're not regular D&D elves.

There are Sun Elves, who are vaguely orange and live in cities. They're arrogant and prejudiced and all around shitterss.

There are Moon Elves who are blue or purple tinted. They CAN live in cities too, but most of them are travelers. Most are still arrogant, but in a patronizing way since they like to mingle with 'lesser' races.

There are wood elves, who are tanned barbarian savages who refuse to have contact with anyone.

There are drow of course, who are pitch black, evil, matriarchal, and have spiders in their vaginas.

There's no such thing as a typical, standard elf in FR.

>>51662536
Drow have Spell Resistance, they are evil but that is a great bonus.

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>>51662536
Be a kobold. Kobolds are great.

>>51662860
Reminder that the kobold afterlife is an endless realm of caves where kobolds are packed in together like sardines with their own waste as lubricant to move around.

>>51662748

You got me, I use a single line per sentenace, therefore I must be this guy:

>>51662769

and this guy:

>>51662398

And everyone else that knows how to use English. It's all a conspiracy.

Your such a funny (wo)man, Anon.

please, keep it up. Your make me so amused right now.

Everyone that know proper English = the Same one guy on 4chan.

HAhahahaha

Thank you, you have made my day.

>>51662885
Don't use my posts to shitpost.

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>>51654512
My bad, I hadn't uploaded it to the drive. I have now done this.
I only made a Watch Dogs 2 jump after playing the vidya for a while, I haven't played WD1 so no jump made.

If anyone spots any typos or whatever in it let me know.
PDF included for anyone that doesn't want to go to the drive.

Jumps, please, tell me about that one fictional character who pissed off you off in real life and what you did to them when you jumped into their setting?

Bonus points if it isn't one of the usual suspects.

>>51662883
That's more a problem with the Forgotten Realms system of afterlife than anything else. Which is generally agreed by most everyone to be pretty fucked up.

Do you want to start talking about the Wall again?

>>51662948
Thank you for the jump, CloneAnon.

>>51662931
Which one?

>>51662962
>jumps
>JUMPS

Hey. Hey, guys?

FUCK Taylor Hebert!

>>51662996
Once she's older.

>>51662769
Okay, I'll revise my sentence

>FR elves are basically just athletic humans with pointy ears, technicolor skin, and an affinity for magic.

>>51662962
Lacus Clyne. Pretty obvious why, I should think. I destroyed her vocal chords. This hurt her, prevented her from being an "inspiring" (read, brainwashing) leader, and prevented Meer Campbell from going into a weird obsessive spiral due to her voice being so similar to Lacus's, allowing her to pursue her own career in an emotionally healthy way.

>>51662948
That'll do pig. That'll do.
>>51662962
Merlin from the BBC show. Fucking coward piece of hypocritical shite. I revealed to everyone his true nature as a magician. Turned him and Arthur gay(er) for each other. And claimed delicious Gwen for myself. They all lived happily ever after.
>>51662996
Why tho?

>>51662996
Yeah. Taylor is...not the nicest person. She's kind of a huge hypocritical bitch. A lot of the fandom seems to miss out on the very obvious parallels Wildbow was drawing between Taylor and everyone she hated.

>>51662962
Well, we kind of hate everyone actually. They're all terrible people.

So what we do is let one or two have outragous windfalls of fortune that screw over all the others against the odds. We give the monsters every available opportunity to power up and do the most damage to everyone else, before they in turn get screwed over by the forces they've unleashed. And then we dick around with the timeline so there's only one happy ending, and all the others get retconned into oblivion.

Suckers.

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>>51663073
>They're all terrible people.
>Shirou
>Terrible person
Sure he's batshit crazy, but you can't call him a terrible person.

>>51662962
Balalaika. Even at her most tame she is little more than a crazy murderer. So I killed all of her soldiers and left some of them hanging in the streets for all to see.

>>51663043
She does have her excuses, but yeah. Gaze into the abyss sort of deal.

The real tragedy of Taylor is that it didn't have to be that way, so many little things that made for horrible people creating a horrible situation which in turn made Taylor into a horrible, if heroic (for a given definition) person.

Hmm, yould taylor count as a byronic hero, or is that something else altogether?

>>51663121
>byronic hero
I think those are assholes from the start, they're just cool assholes who have a point?

>>51663112
Were you like. . .annoyed by the competition?

>>51662962
It's hard to explain why I hate Homura. Imagine you're a DM, and you set up this high level homebrew nWOD campaign. Oh, there's a big bad conspiracy underneath the smiles and glitter, but it's all supposed to be part of the experience.

And then one day, some munchkin pun-puns their way into breaking your system.

I don't even blame Madoka. She just had the misfortune to be friends with magical girl!VirtualOptim over here.

I do, however, know the worst kind of bad ending is the kind built out of the wreckage of a happy one. Really, she's pretty happy where she ends up.

>>51663108
Oh yeah, and F/SN jump asked me to tell you he's a delusional empty shell of a human being playing pretend in a setting he doesn't belong in. Also that he's subconsciously self-destructive, and that he recklessly throws away and endangers his allies because of his pathological obssession.

Pretty sure he's angry and drunk, though.

>>51663132
Looked it up on the holiest of site, Tvtropes:

Byronic Hero's are:
"The Byronic Hero is a type of character popularized by the works of Lord Byron, whose protagonists often embodied this archetype, though they existed before him, it became prominent during Romanticism. Sometimes an Anti-Hero, others an Anti-Villain, or even Just a Villain, Byronic heroes are charismatic characters with strong passions and ideals, but who are nonetheless deeply flawed individuals who may act in ways which are socially reprehensible because he's definitely contrary to his mainstream society. A byronic hero is on his own side and has his own set of beliefs which he will not bow nor change for anyone. A Byronic hero is a character whose internal conflicts are heavily romanticized and who himself ponders and wrestles with his struggles and beliefs. Some are portrayed with a suggestion of dark crimes or tragedies in their past. "

If Taylor does fit this mold I don't know what she is.

>>51663151
>delusional empty shell of a human being
True

>in a setting he doesn't belong in
How does this make him a bad person?

>he's subconsciously self-destructive
True

>recklessly throws away and endangers his allies
Not really? He usually recklessly throws himself in-between his allies and an enemy attack.

>>51663170
Cool. The more you know. Is Marvel!Loki a Byronic hero then? Is Dr.House?

>>51662475
When's m̶a̶h̶v̶e̶l̶ disgaea underworld?

>>51662962
It was SUPPOSED to be a noblebright celebration of Divine Provenance. People wanna deviate from it? Fine. Fuck off, not-Satans. That's none of my business.

Oh look, you've been doomed to lose from the minute you rebeled. That's what Divine Provenance MEANS, dipshits. Enjoy having all the racial penalties, forever

>>51663175
Cripes, he's thrown up on the couch.

He mumbled something about being like the guy who blows people on the street because he thinks people are sad and giving free blowjobs is good, therefore it's okay to be a total prat. Also he was rambling about Caster and Taiga, and also some sort of "crazy erotical black hole nobody in their right mind would try to saveHURRHGGHGH"

Listen, I wouldn't pay him any mind. Pretty sure he's starting to confuse Shirou with someone else. He's drunk, horny and confused all the time. Can't even decide who's supposed to be the strongest character anymore.

Could I buy Arcane Pact from NWN twice for both effects? Warlock and a better familiar?

>>51663189
Yes, and yes.

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>>51663151
>-playing pretend in a setting he doesn't belong in.

>>51663143
It's more her attitude towards it. She's an ex soldier angry about being disgraced in the military, so she decides to cause as much chaos as possible in the hopes someone comes along and kills her and her soldiers. I just happened to be that thing, although she did not appreciate my methods.

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>>51657998
>>51658105
>>51658201
>>51658245

Right. Sorry for anyone who was paying attention to my writefagging, but my inspiration has disappeared after my sleep. I don't think I'll be able to chronicle The Imperator's Return.
Regardless it was a fucking massive conflict, that ended up with Tiger's twin Feitch Souls fighting Ligier, amongst other things.

>>51663189
Well bare in mind that Loki has had alot of interpretations and I'm not familiar with all of them, I'd tentatively says yes.

Viewed in various ways, check.
Charismatic, check.
Strong passions and ideals, I think check.
Deeply flawed, oh yes, check.
Socially reprehensible, yup.
Own side... check.
Romanticised struggle, check.
Past crimes/tragedies, check.

Maybe less tentatively.

Regarding Dr. House, I honestly don't know as I haven't watched the show. From what little I have heard about the character, I'd again tentatively say yes.

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So I've gotta get some sleep before heading into work guys here's the work I've been doing. Feel free to give it a good look over and comment. I'm hitting the hay.

>>51662962
Sigurd pisses me the fuck off considering that he keeps charging everywhere, thinks with his dick and goes "oh wow it's prophesied that if this hot chick I like leaves the village then they'll be bad shit? PFFFTTTTTTTTT NAH" and then later on he fucking leaves said chick (Dierdre) in a castle by herself because "SHE HAS TO TAKE CARE OF THE BABYYYYYYY" even though she's a competent mage herself and he has maids to take care of the baby. And he leaves her protected by a teenage boy for some reason because yeah, that totally makes sense. Yeah if I were to give anyone the job of protecting my wife in wartime I'd give it to some kid who hasn't even seen combat outside of practice. She ends up getting captured!!!

And then he thinks he can just charge into stuff that doesn't involve him like he knows what's right and ends up making things worse.

Honestly though, I wouldn't really do anything since he dies already.

((I feel really mean writing this post I'm so sorry, I actually really like Sigurd but he doesn't make a lot of good decisions, and he gets called out a lot for some of his issues))

How many breeding pairs of Saiyans would I need to save their race from extinction?

what's the best perk/magic system/psionics for making yourself into a hivemind? I see that Libriomancer has one, but it is limited in how many you can create

>>51663415
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_viable_population

>>51663415
If we went by human gene standards at least 600-700 unique unrelated persons. None of them could have deficiencies or diseases and there would have to be some serious eugenics involved.

I could be misremembering the article (I can remember where I found it) and it was entirely theoretical. Likely that number would still fail just because of how controlled everything would have to be without any room for deviations.

Thousands would be far more realistic, but I don't know how reasonable it would be to save that many.

>>51663415
If you have to ask, you're doing it wrong.

If you really want to save the Saiyans, just make a wish on the dragon balls to bring their entire race back.

"All the Saiyans killed by Frieza" should do the job, though you'll probably want to do something so they don't just materialize floating in space.

>>51663263
What's up with that six shot limit for dragons? How does that work?

>>51662962
Naoya is such an edgy prick, I swear to God. First of all, he starts blaming God for him killing Abel. After all, if God is omniscient, and knew what would happen, why didn't he stop him? Because of free will, you dense motherfucker. It's not just one path, it's multiple. You COULD have chosen to be happy for your little brother, but no, what did you do? You murdered him, and then when God asked you, "Where is your brother Abel?", you said "How should I know? Am I my brother's keeper?" Then you got called out on it, whined like a bitch, and were given a blessing to make sure you wouldn't be hurt. When you died, you didn't go to Hell, despite not repenting. No, what did you do? You reincarnated, with memories of your past life. Most people would have seen this as a blessing, a second chance. YOU saw it as curse, and then used it to try and plot revenge against God.

But that wasn't enough, was it? No, you wanted to make it HURT. So you decided to use your brother, the one you murdered and supposedly "loved" as a weapon against God. How many people died for your little scheme, huh? How much suffering did you cause? All because you couldn't let go of ONE. STUPID. FUCKING. GRUDGE. YOU LITTLE-

...sorry, I got carried away, there.

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Jumpers, what's the biggest disappointment/disillusionment you've ever experienced during your chain?

>>51663462
>>51663471
Thank you. No way I can manage that in the canon DB jumps, unless I use the Dragon Balls like >>51663475 said.

I guess I can just merge the bloodlines into humanity?

>>51663415
Assuming that their the same as humans, that's tricky.

Last I looked (and to be fair it was a while ago) when looking into viable populations for space colonies (don't judge - i love sci-fi) the actual amount of people you would need to prevent inbreeding can vary from dozens to thousands.

For my tupence worth I'd say, get as many as you can, but no less than 5 thousand individuals.

Someone else might be able to give you a better answer though.

>>51663415
One pair, if you're okay with an Adam and Eve situation. Lots of incest and genetic diseases with that though.

Otherwise, 2085 breeding pairs would be enough to hit the mean of the minimum viable population.

>>51663471
*cant

>>51663462
Go wikipedia!

>>51663426
Do you mean as having multiple bodies with one mind or having several minds working together at once?

>>51663505
multiple bodies with one mind

actually, is there different terms for both of those? I never actually thought about it, but some kind of distinction would be nice

>>51663490
When I found out that anime worlds looked exactly like real life. I basically refused to do anything that jump and just ranted angrily in my warehouse for 10 years. After that I took the Panty & Stocking jump for that one perk that let's you decide how the world looks like, and everything since has been alright.

>>51663490
Despite all of my powers, I couldn't do anything to make the ending of Madoka Magica happier, aside from saving the girls' lives and giving them some therapy. The best ending possible was the canon ending, so all I could do was make sure no one had to die for that to happen.

Homura was grateful for the help I did give in the Wraith World, but she was just...so broken. She had fought for years, and in the end she still wasn't able to save Madoka. All I could do was talk to her and help her recover.

>>51663483
Dragons in HTTYD can only hold so much of whatever feeds their flames. So the shot limit is how many times they can breath fire before they have to regenerate it.

>>51663490
I was once faced with a situation where jamming someone in a morality manipulation machine was the objective best choice for all parties involved and carried basically no downsides. As someone who holds identity and choice sacred in a manner of speaking, this fucking sucked.

>>51663475
>make a wish on the dragon balls to bring their entire race back
Yeah but those are all murderous douches with the exception of Gine.

>>51663495
>I guess I can just merge the bloodlines into humanity?

It inevitably means that saiyan blood would be bred out unless you genetically alter most or all of humanity or seclude a countries worth of population for them to stabilize their numbers.

>>51663520
One mind = a central computer with proxy bodies
Multiple Minds = several computers pooling their resources together.

>>51663561
Man, those dragons sound kinda shitty. Looks like they've good a need for some good old genetic engineering,

>>51663426
Primordial Ghost in Justice League Dark allows that, and could probably drastically increase in power as you get more astral plane empowerment/Spiritualistic boosts in power.

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>>51663527
>Anime worlds looked exactly like real life
>He probably spent centuries trapped in worlds that looked like a Michel Bay's adaptation

I feel you.

>>51663611
>It inevitably means that saiyan blood would be bred out
Damn. Okay what if I follow up the DB and DBZ jumps with Dragon Ball AF and buy a whole fleet chock full of Saiyans? Assuming that's a few thousand individuals, could I merge them with humanity and have them not breed out?

>>51663689
Are you looking to just make something that can go super Saiyans?

>>51663725

I think he just wants Saiyan booty to stay in existence.

>>51663566
Then you shouldn't be trying to save them.

There's no sampling of Saiyans that aren't a "proud warrior race". Vegeta only manages to acclimate after years spent on earth. If you want to save the Saiyans, then you either need to be willing to take the reigns of their civilization after bringing them all back and guiding them to a life of not being assholes, or you're gonna need to do some long term game planning nature versus nurture shit where you introduce clonebabies dotted around Earth or some shit and have them raised in normal society, which you probably don't have time for in the span of one jump.
And if you're not willing to do either of those, then you should let them just stay dead.

>>51663611
I mean, there are other methods.

like, there was something that I was listening to on NPR about a month ago that was a scientist describing how they were using a few methods to force certain genes to pass on to offspring. They wanted to give mice a gene that would make them not pass on lime disease to ticks, and then release them on some island in New York(pretty sure it was New York)

things exist to force genes to carry on, it's just a matter of whether or not it would be smart to force a bunch of DNA to be passed on. or even possible.

plus, I mean, Saiyan that the DNA will be bred out of humans like saying that neanderthal DNA has bred out of humans. It hasn't. We just consider the neanderthal DNA that we have to be part of what human is now.

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>>51660775
>she
Huh.

Anyway, I don't believe I said that? But I /did/ say I would definitely drop a WIP soon (since I flaked last week with DB jumps and IRL shit).

Was thinking tomorrow or the day after, since I have more time to write from today on. But I could drop something early in a few hours if you'd prefer?


...Speaking of updates, I was thinking of barbarian hordes for Lunars, and suddenly realized Infernals didn't have an option that allows you to march a demonic army into Creation. Needed to rectify that.

Changelog:
>buffed Demonic Retinue a bit, you can now get an army of 1st circles
>changed the Akuma drawback as an anon brought something up, and altered its interaction with the Mortal Form drawback. As a consequence, it's been demoted to +200 status.
>added a few notes about your Exaltation sticking around if you die with 1-ups, or if you use some out-of-jump thing to turn yourself into an eldritch horror.
>attempted to finish the Lexicon, but severely underestimated its boredom potential. I /will/ finish this though... Later.

Still no Scenarios, those are more involved than the small tweaks I'm doing here. That'll still be after Lunars, sorry.

>>51663748
Just experiment with hitting them on the head until you find a way to reliably make Gokus. A legion of brain damaged saiyans is a small price to pay for monkey waifus.

>>51663689
It might be a better option to take Saiyan dna and make a virus that gives humans enough of it that Saiyans would never breed out.

>>51663725
Basically I don't want them to disappear or go the way of the Neanderthals. I guess the Dragon Ball wish is really my best bet, I just have to find out how to control them.
>>51663742
Also this.
>>51663748
>be willing to take the reigns of their civilization after bringing them all back and guiding them to a life of not being assholes
Guess I'll try that.
>have them raised in normal society, which you probably don't have time for in the span of one jump.
Could work in the Multiverse jump with the "just here for the story" drawback. You can stay centuries.
>>51663748
Right so I could make some genes always dominant?

>>51663680
I swear to god I hate EVERY artist that tries to make "realistic" versions of anything animated.
It's like they all think "realistic" means "ugly as shit". They add in details that don't exist, and don't even make much sense, just for the sake of making the character uglier.

I've bitched about this before, and I'll likely bitch about it again, but I've fucking seen a "realistic" pokemon drawing of an Arcanine, with scales for some fucking reason. A DOG with scales tossed in, just to make it uglier.

>>51663748
I think you could have time to do it in a single jump if you really put your mind to it and had the right resources. Clone alot of saiyan babies in the warehouse. Use SCP 2400 to have plenty of time to get them fully grown in the span of one jump. Add some genetic manipulation too so they aren't crazy about fighting for good measure. Teach them about life similar to how Superboy was taught in Young Justice. Release into wild. I'm sure only good things can come from this.

>>51663689
Again, you'd either have to alter a significant number of humanity, have a fuck ton of saiyans to the point that they could repopulate without humans, or reasonably seclude a sufficient population.

To be fair by 'reasonably seclude' doesnt really mean trap them. Most people dont go searching the entire world for the love of their life when they are surrounded by people.

>>51663761
I was assuming the asker didn't have the means, but yeah there are a ton of perks to do that with SUPERSCIENCE!

And I mean 'bred out' as in they can no longer be considered truly saiyan in the terms of the setting. At some point there would be more human than saiyan without a reasonable enough population. Which wouldn't be a problem for me, but if you are going to employ eugenics to preserve a species...

>>51663680
Beerus actually looks alright in that, but Frieza's depiction is so incorrect it's not even funny.

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>>51663797
>>51663852
Does pic related look more accurate?

>>51663763
Thank you, Mardukth.

Sorry but I've thought that you were a 'she' for some reason. I can't remember why.

I'll go to using gender-neutral pronoiuns for you form now on.

>>51663878
It's definitely better, but it still looks like crap.

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>>51663797
Half the time "realistic" pokemon fanarts have to future some oh-so-clever twist about how "I know the pokemon is supposed to look like an X, but really I'm gonna draw it looking like an Y".

>>51663878
Not feminine enough, also not cruel looking, a defining trait of freezer.

>>51663913
>I know the pokemon is supposed to look like an X, but really I'm gonna draw it looking like an Y
Now I want to see the X legendary drawn to look like the Y legendary

>>51663878
It's much better yes. That one's basically just Frieza's design with non-anime proportions, and lacks superfluous gribblies compared to the other one.

>>51663680
Dat rapeface tho.

>>51663878
Better, but still weird, like if you are going to add a lot of details to a character, why not add them on the muscles that the character has, rather than on weird skin shading? Though the head should be larger because that head to body proportion makes him look taller than he should.

>>51663680
Does the artist not know that the white shit is supposed to be armor, and the purple stuff is his skin?

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>>51663905
>>51663923
>>51663941
>>51663971
What about this one? It's the only other 'accurate' image I could find besides the one from the Live Action Frieza Saga trailer.

Is there a list of what Jumps others are working on? Or a Request list? I know normally if someone requests a specific Jump then they are kinda volunteering to make it, but I wondered if there is a list anywhere of Jumps people'd like.

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>>51663797
I always took that to be part of the joke. It's less about making them look realistic and more about making them look grotesque and scary and metal.

... I mean, I'm sure there are people who do that with all seriousness in the belief that this is how they'd really look, because humanity never ceases to find ways to disappoint me, but I never really took it all that seriously myself.

>>51664013
That one actually looks pretty cool!

>>51664020
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1m0fnuyJiPtpsYzGDQUNOP-UIm8f1RNd54eOJCFiUYKI/edit#gid=0

Would it be reasonable to think that Narnian Witchcraft would give basic, minor control over the elements?

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>>51663886
>Thank you, Mardukth.
So... that's a 'yes' on getting a WIP in a few hours? I'll get back to quickly getting something presentable ready then.

>Sorry but I've thought that you were a 'she' for some reason. I can't remember why.
I do tend to use female pictures for my jumper (like pic related), in the rare case I post parts of my chain with my name on. And pictures of female Lunars/Luna and the Scarlet Empress, when discussing other things.

That's probably it?

>I'll go to using gender-neutral pronoiuns for you form now on.
Anyway, I honestly don't care much. Call me whatever you like?

>>51664013
Holy shit, a "realistic" drawing that isn't crap.
I actually kinda like it.

>>51664036
>It's less about making them look realistic and more about making them look grotesque and scary and metal.
Perhaps, and perhaps it's just "muh austism", but doing that and calling it realistic just annoys the hell out of me.

I wouldn't mind the gimmick otherwise, but calling it realistic is what irks me.

>>51663763
>Was thinking tomorrow or the day after, since I have more time to write from today on. But I could drop something early in a few hours if you'd prefer?
Take your time, there's no rush.

>>51664086
Just for clearity, I'm thanking you for making wonderful jumps. Not trying to ask you for anything, not that a WIP for Lunars wouldn't be welcome.

Thank you for taking the time and effort into making them, expecially Infernals.

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>>51664128
Right then.

>>51664194
Oh, well, you're welcome?

I'm just happy people enjoy them.

>>51663763
hey demonic liquor doesn't say how many you get for the selection is It only one?
also did you mean to Make the full eight companions 500 points? Because that's an odd pricing.

>>51664322
>>51664339
also, I have no idea what kind of liquors are Available and I checked the items section of infernals and I can't find any mentionof specific ones

>>51663475
>just make a wish on the dragon balls to bring their entire race back.
>"All the Saiyans killed by Frieza" should do the job
Is that even a valid wish?

>>51663913
I'll never understand why this person didn't just draw zubat, golbat and crobat. I mean, they already drew two zubats in that pic from the looks of it. Why not just go all the way instead of fictionalizing what a different pokemon looks like? Especially one that's literally just a gas cloud?

>>51664492
You want to chug as much Yozi Venom as possible. Will do your jumper tons of good. Just be sure to lower your defenses against poisons or it won't work properly.

>>51664559
Why wouldn't it be? They wished for everyone killed by a villain before.

>>51664618
But the Saiyans died like decades in the past, and there isn't a Dragon of Planet Vegeta. Aren't the Dragons limited to their own world?

>>51664645
If it's a super dragon like the Namekian one, it isn't.

>>51664649
Not that anon, but the Namekian Dragon can only bring one person back at a time. So something like that wouldn't work for reviving the Saiyan race.

>>51664649
Dragons are OP.
Okay so just go to Namek, and ask for all the dead Saiyans to reappear on Earth or something. Then deal with the consequences.

>>51664645
No, they've used them to bring back all the Namekians who died on Namek due to Frieza or his henchmen.

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Post builds for Dota 2.

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>>51664339
>hey demonic liquor doesn't say how many you get for the selection is It only one?
It's a couple of them for every purchases.

Something like two to five different kinds? The specifics probably depend on how rare/expensive they are. So, like, you could have a bunch of the common bonewine and similar stuff, but something expensive (and potentially deadly) like sypax or final rest elixir would take most of your "budget".

>also did you mean to Make the full eight companions 500 points? Because that's an odd pricing.
It's actually 1100 cp, since The Thing Infernal only gives you one companion per purchase too.

And yeah, that's a bit odd. I did it that way because Infernals are extremely powerful for the setting, and incredibly rare. With a full 8 companions, you're a huge powerblock with 18% of all Infernals. And them teaming up is even rarer, to the point that just having a full Coven of them is basically unprecedented.

>>51664492
They're mentioned in Compass: Malfeas. More of a Malfeas thing than an Infernals-specific thing.

You've drinks that are similar to normal drinks, like bonewine, which is like sake that tastes a bit like bone. But then there's drinks that cause specific emotions or (day)dreams, like elixirs of rage, envy, terror and hate as well as distilled dreams of pleasure, mirth or flight. And drinks that have the same effects as drugs like opium and cocaine. And stuff like sypax, which literally gives an experience of perfect pleasure (but is pretty lethal and extremely addictive to mortals).

And a lot more besides. Some are flat-out lethal to humans.

>>51664685
>>51664688
Porunga 2.0 (created by Moori) can do mass revivals.

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Submitting this for revision.

>>51664681
>>51664649
Dragon wish powers are proportional to the amount of wishes you get. The Namekian dragon gives you three wishes, so they're weaker and can't do as much crazy bullshit as the Earth's dragon, which only grants one wish. When Dende creates a new dragon for Earth, he upgrades it to be able to grant two wishes, but as a result the dragon is unable to bring back anyone who has already been brought back once by the dragon balls. Which is used to create drama when everyone realizes that a lot of the Z Fighters are shit out of luck if Cell kills them.

Anyway, if you only have one wish, you could very easily wish for all the Saiyans to be brought back. But you'd probably want to have some place for them to go, otherwise they'd just materialize somewhere out in space and die again.
Luckily you can combine "-- and bring them to planet <x>" in the wish.

>>51664578
even my Jumper is not that stupid
>>51664702
>It's actually 1100 cp, since The Thing Infernal only gives you one companion per purchase too.

if this is what you intend you might want to update that,right now it says 4 for 300

>If you decide to make it a “perfect Circle” of five different Castes with yourself included, I’ll even lower the price to a mere 300 cp for a full four of your companions.

so it doesn't quite work out that way

And, coupled with The Thing Infernal Which is 200 for four it's 500 But 1100 is really really expensive for a full companion import. can you elaborate on the Reasoning behind this? I'm not

>>51664698
>Defense of the Ancients 2 - Jump #711
Archetype: Strength
Allegiance: Radiant
Location: Scintillant Waste
Race: A Simple Human
Drawbacks: The Rebirth of the Ancients (+600)
Final Point Count: 1,600 CP

Perks:
-A Light In The Darkness (Free)
-The Strength of a Hero (Free)
-A Beacon to the Hopeful
-Tiny
-Dragon Knight
-Master of Fire

Items & Party: (+400 Item-Only Stipend)
-Helm of Iron Will (Free)
-Mjollnir (import The All-Hammer)
-Iron Plantation
-Faerie Pyre
-5-Man Party

>>51664618
Each set of dragon balls has their own limitations. Like the Namekian set can resurrect someone as many times as you like, but only one person per wish, while Shenron can wish back entire planetary populations, but only bring a person back one time. Shenron can also only bring back people within a year of their death, while the Namekian dragon has no time limit. So to wish back an entire planetary population that died ages ago like the Saiyans you would need a different set than either of those two.

>>51664755
>And, coupled with The Thing Infernal Which is 200 for four it's 500 But 1100 is really really expensive for a full companion import. can you elaborate on the Reasoning behind this? I'm not

the current wording implies its the four for the 200, which doesn't make sense, but it says

>you may purchase this option to gain up to four more fellow conspirators that would be willing to assist you.

rather than noting that it's one each. So that's another thing you should probably update.

>>51664791
>>51664702
forgot to link you to>>51664791

>>51664716
Firstly, you might want to capitalize the Sensen in the title. It's lower case there. I'll provide more commentary once I give it a proper read through.

>>51664791
>you would need a different set than either of those two
Untrue my man. Porunga's rules changed at the end of the Frieza saga. See >>51664708

>>51664702
>>51664755
>>51664791
I have to agree with bancho, mate. If that's your intent, it needs updating. The Thing Infernal definitely doesn't read as one per purchase, especially because it's usually assumed that an option can't be purchased multiple times unless explicitly stated otherwise.

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>>51664755
>But 1100 is really really expensive for a full companion import. can you elaborate on the Reasoning behind this? I'm not
As I said, Green Sun Princes are extremely rare, them teaming up into even a full coven is even rarer, with groups of Infernals numbering nine of them together being practically unheard of.

Just didn't feel right to offer them cheaply. Since at that point, your group basically /is/ the Reclamation, or at least runs most of it.

>>51664791
>>51664838
Yeah... Now that I'm reading it again, it could be a lot clearer and I've kinda written it like four for 200. Sorry about that.

Edited it a bit. Should be good now?

>>51661427
Which is why all yanks except Queenie and one muggle basically got in the way while a Brit saved the day in the only real media we've got for the US in that setting.

>>51664716
Not really a fan of the two mandatory drawbacks for The Power of a King, especially for no extra points.

>>51664716
Don't really know the setting, but it looks pretty good. Gotta agree with the other guy though, 2 mandatory drawbacks seem a bit much. Maybe let us choose?
Also, I don't know if I misunderstood something about those eyes, but they don't really seem worth 800 CP to me. What makes them so good?

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>>51664786
>Shenron can also only bring back people within a year of their death
That can't be right. Freeza was dead for way longer than a year, and then Resurrection F happened.
Did the rules get changed again? Or did Toriyama just forget?

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Yet another Dragon Ball question, sorry everyone.

Apparently in Universe 6 there are good guys Saiyans who are "Heroes of Justice." Cabba is one of them.

Now are they good guys because they're a different species with an opposite nature, or are they basically the same with only cultural differences?

It's mentioned that they evolved past tails and don't possess them anymore.

>>51664716
Are the Divine Visual Organs really worth 800 CP? It seems like their primary draw is much less versatile and slightly more powerful version of something that magic can already do.

Will we be getting a new mass effect when the new one comes out?

>>51664716

I don't like the mandatory drawbacks. Seems overwhelmingly overpriced.

>>51665134
>did Toriyama just forget?
Likely doesn't even care.

>>51664810
Huh, I don't know why that happened.

>>51665044
>>51665194
Maybe I could drop 'Enemy of Libra' and increase the severity of 'Obsessed'?

If you become a member of the Thirteen Kings you will have Libra going against you anyway, but then again I was also creating a loss condition with that drawback.

>>51665131
>Don't really know the setting, but it looks pretty good. Gotta agree with the other guy though, 2 mandatory drawbacks seem a bit much. Maybe let us choose?

Huh, that could work, I guess. The 'Obsessed0 thing is based on the mentality of the Thirteen Kings (each of them has a theme that drives them), and the enemy of Libra was a thing that you would get anyway by joining them, barring the loss condition. I could make that if you don't join the group you don't need to take that drawback, but if you do you must take it (although this time gaining CP for it). They are a group of powerful individuals that are willing to help each other.


>>51665159
>>51665131
>Also, I don't know if I misunderstood something about those eyes, but they don't really seem worth 800 CP to me. What makes them so good?

They come with a lot of powers (seeing true names, seeing through any illusions, all the sight control stuff) with just a perk. I could drop it to 600 CP, but there had been only a few dozens of holders in all history of both worlds and everyone in the setting will want to get their hands of them if they know that you have them.

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>>51665205
THEN I SHALL FOLLOW HIS EXAMPLE

>>51665205
Considering the fact that the Dragon balls were used at least ONCE canonically for Takeout orders and buffets so

Yes

>>51665224
There's also the issue that while you might normally have the Libra going after you, the drawback by fiat makes it so that you can't convince them, conduct diplomacy, etc. Or at least that's the usual assumption behind drawbacks.

>>51664716
Shouldn't Cold Blooded Man be 400cp, not 200cp?

>>51665224
>They come with a lot of powers (seeing true names, seeing through any illusions, all the sight control stuff) with just a perk. I could drop it to 600 CP, but there had been only a few dozens of holders in all history of both worlds and everyone in the setting will want to get their hands of them if they know that you have them.
Honestly, I'm not sure if this is just inter-jump balance colouring my perception, but I still think it's kinda "meh" for 800 CP. I'd say an undiscouned 600 CP would be fair. Although, if they're worth that much in that world maybe the price /is/ justified. Your call.

>>51663263
>>51663483
Speaking of the six shots limit, what happens if you buy both The Wind of Fury and The Color of Death?

Do you still only have 6 shots, or do they combine for 12 or 11 shots?

>>51664986
hey, can I take demonic aspect more than once, I need like 300 more points and I've already taken every other drawback I can survive

>>51665224
>They come with a lot of powers (seeing true names, seeing through any illusions, all the sight control stuff) with just a perk. I could drop it to 600 CP, but there had been only a few dozens of holders in all history of both worlds and everyone in the setting will want to get their hands of them if they know that you have them.
That could also be said of the magic and science perks, couldn't it? Anyway, I agree with this >>51665298 . Whichever you feel is better.

>>51665290
Just noticed that. Yes, it's 400 CP.

>>51665298
>Although, if they're worth that much in that world maybe the price /is/ justified. Your call.

There had been 53 holders of the eyes in the history of both worlds. Currently there are only two known ones. And the MC, one of the current holders, is regularly put in danger for his eyes. And that's with people usually not knowing what they truly are, because they're 'that' powerful.

>>51665330
The thing about the eyes is that they are 'absolute', because their creator was a extremely powerful Outer God. It would take a being on the same level to deny their powers.

No illusions can deceive them. Their induced hallucinations can only be escaped by other holders of the eyes. And the True Name thing is usually worth around 400-600 CP in other jumps on its own, here it's packed with another varied set of powers that could be 200-400 on their own.

I think they will remain 800 CP for now. Having an Elder Breed with the Eyes for 'merely' 1100 CP rampaging through the setting would be too much.

I will change the mandatory drawback thing in a moment, though.

>>51665134
Toriyama forgets shit all the time, he's forgotten multiple main characters.

>>51665152
If you ever get answers it'll be later on in the arc, it just started.

Do you guys keep notes of your age as a Jumper? If so, do you include the years preceding the "start" of the Jump but where your background self was alive?

>>51665431
Okay thank you. I'm just curious as to whether the Saiyans are inherently evil or (as a few exceptions seem to indicate) just as malleable as humans.

>>51665477
Bardock start out as a typical saiyan and later learns to be a softie, same with Vegeta. It's really likely to just be their culture.

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>Fixed some typos
>Removed the 'Enemy of Libra' mandatory drawback for 'The Power of a King'

>>51664716
Looks good for the most part, need some spelling and grammar checks and i'm with the others, a mandatory drawback for the capstone booster for no CP and that makes you a enemy of the main cast is a bit much, otherwise i'm liking it.

>>51665477
They're inherently violent, is the thing. They have a natural genetic predisposition towards wanting to fight and be strong. That obviously has an easy entry way into being evil, being a bully, etc. In fact, it probably lends itself to the typical idea of evil far easier than good. But it's not by itself evil anymore than any shonen series about punching people inherently lends itself towards evil people.

If you give the Saiyans an acceptable outlet for that desire (like tournaments, or "justice"), and give them a reason to enjoy it, then they can easily grow up to be just as heroic as anyone else.

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Gamer jump
21 yo female
Player 2
Gamers loot 700
Life insurance -100
Gamers titles free
Gamer skills -400
Instant dungeon free
Illusion technicion -800

Items
Gamers basic spells free

Drawbacks
Abyss gazed back mandatory
Casting from hit points -500
Disproportionate retribution -400
Active time battler -300
Dating sim -200
You really have to wear the ears. 0

I am pretty much resigned to the fact that these next few years are going to suck most terribly. My homoncus maid from overlord who is also pretty much my only (sorta) companion left needs fixing but I am reasonably sure I have the stuff to fix her.

Also gonna join shi yun and ji han but not join ji hans guild, the redheads guild needs some help and I think I can boost the hell out of them magically.

Bartender with bunny ears, playing vidya as life. Not sure if this is good or bad.

>>51665455
I tried. It got hard real fast.

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>>51665326
Hm, I am reluctant to allow taking low danger drawbacks multiple times here, considering there's no cap of drawbacks...

But looking at the signature Infernals, Manosque Cyan has both her hair and nails affected by her demon. Cearr got fangs, red hair, and longer arms. While Gyrfalcon has his skin and hair color changed, and fangs.

And it's not like it'd make it easy to buy everything in the jump (good god this thing is 67 pages, and probably the longest thing I've ever written. how did I even do this?).

So, sure. I shall allow Demonic Aspect to be taken multiple times. But, every time you take it, it'll be worse for you, and it can't be taken more than thrice.

>>51665455
My Jumper counts age in Jumps at the moment.
Much easier, really.

>>51665455
>Do you guys keep notes of your age as a Jumper?
More or less. I just count the number of jumps (barring the ones that have less or more time) and multiply said number by 10. Then I add the extra years.

>If so, do you include the years preceding the "start" of the Jump but where your background self was alive?

If I did so, considering some of my choices, I would probably be 'older than the universe'.

>>51665583
That makes total sense. Thanks!
I shall mold the Saiyans into a galactic police force obsessed with martial arts and tournaments.

>>51665757
Okay I just rolled a d100 for it (turning Saiyans into heroic protectors) and got a 60.
That's not bad.

Since I put them up on Earth they see themselves as Earth's guardians/army/kinda owners. They still act as conquerors/overall douches quite often. Which isn't always popular among the original Earthlings. I'm hoping vigorous race-mixing will eventually smooth that out.

>>51665455
Yes and yes.
At jump 27, he's 514 years old.

>>51665736
>And it's not like it'd make it easy to buy everything in the jump (good god this thing is 67 pages, and probably the longest thing I've ever written. how did I even do this?).

Thanks now when architectural madness says you can do impossible/weird architecture with it are we talking just structurally impossible or are we talking alien geometries?

>>51664041
This list is outdated

>>51665455
Yes. No, because that makes it go from Fun Detail to fairly tedious.

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>>51665878
No problem.

>are we talking just structurally impossible or are we talking alien geometries?
Both, really.

Constructions that defy normal understanding of physics, architecture, and common sense are the norm. Angles of roads, windows, and arches both perfectly set and impossible. Great buildings that should collapse under their own weight pushing skyward. Continous mazelike collections of lesser structures that are at once impressive and maddening.

And such.

>>51665535
Does Inefficient Violence boost the power of all species you qualify as, or just the one from this jump? Also, what would you be comparable to as an Elder Bloodbreed with Inefficient Violence?

Okay, we need to get rid of HeavensAnon. That much is obvious. Only one question remains: "How?"

>>51666131
I take it you're not in the IRC? He just pulled some serious fucking bullshit.

Is there a list of eye perks from the various Jumps?

Im looking specifically for vanity ones, but power ones that also effect the appearance of eyes would be cool.

>>51665736
I also to not like the price chance on the Thing Infernal. Because yes, it did read as 4 for 200 CP.
The coven was 100 Each or 300 for 4, but they would be allowed to work with you. The Think Infernal option was cheaper at 200 for 4, but they would have their own duties and not be able to adventure with you, or help you as often.

Um, Set deal on the 1st circles modeled after the Yozi?

>>51665421
What would "true Na!Es" entail in this setting/ how much power and influence does knowing someone's true name give you over them?

>>51666160
He isn't even on.

>>51666164
Forgot to add: Jumpers! Tell me about your favorite vanity perks!

>>51666110
Lure him in front of the main cannon of the Death Star by disguising it as a moon.

Oh it's IRCanon again. When can we get MGS anon back

>>51666182
The new one from CATastrophe and one of the cultivation options for WoC.

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Renegade Jump # 42 Santa Jump
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Background: Drop In (0)

Perks:
*Holly Jolly Criminal (0)
*In a single night (0)
*what Christmas is all about (0)
*Naughty or Nice (100)
*Toy Making (100)
*Public Relations (600)
*business Sense (100)

Equipment:
*Santa Suit
*Magic Sack
*the List
*The Workshop
*Elves (0)
*book of carols
*Santa’s Harley (100)

Journal Entry # 749693

Umm… so I am not sure what is going on. I mean I guess I am filling in for Santa. I don’t mind it’s just a little strange. It is kind of even a little fun. I got a nice motorcycle out of the deal. It even flies.
It’s been kind of hectic preparing for Christmas. It’s also strange that people know about Santa and I am soft of a celebrity.

Being a celebrity and Santa is kind of hard. I am not saying I may have accidently swore a couple times but I may have. Also I have had to moderate my drinking… no one likes a drunken Santa.

All said and done though it’s kind of nice. We had stopped celebrating holidays and such. Each day kind of flowed in to another. Certain days having meaning is kind of nice. It was also nice to see Kara and Ami enjoying preparing for the holiday.


(to be continued)