EDH/Commander General

>>51651315
>No thread question
You had one fucking job, anon.

How about this: What is your favorite/least favorite Shard/Wedge and why?

>>51651383
Saying anything other than Bant is incorrect. Bant is just the best combination of colors in Magic.

>>51651383
Sultai, I LOVE self mill and I want to win with mortal combat

>>51651383
>Favorites
Bant
Abzan
Temur
Mardu
>Least favorites
Grixis
Sultai
Jeskai

>>51651383
Favorite: Abzan. I love removal, +1/+1 counters, and combos. There's a lot of variety among the commanders in terms of potential play style, too.

Least favorite: Jund. The only decks that aren't just different iterations of "Sac stuff for value" are the worst dragon tribal commander and several joke options.

>>51651383
>fav Shard
Bant, but only for Rafiq. I don't like any other Bant commanders.
>fav Wedge
Toss-up between Mardu or Jeskai, but Ghave is the most fun wedge commander of them all.

>least fav shard
Jund
>least fav wedge
Sultai

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/thunder-pussy/

would love any suggestions/improvements

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>be me
>tard
>attempt to order normal size Ob Nixilis from Mtg Oversize dealer

>>51651315
Wow, I'd forgotten that the Lord type was around as long as it was. Was Ravnica the last block it was in?

>>51651522
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/thunder-pussy/
Ah shit. Land tax
I remember when I would play with my friends. They hated me after getting into MTG.

Name a deck you can play over and over and never get tired of.

For me, it's Ghave. He has some variance, but always ends up with accidental combos.

>>51651383
Shard: Bant
Wedge: Temur

>>51651534
TECHNICALLY the last block was Ice Age because of Coldsnap, but yeah it was really Ravnica.

>>51651526
well done genius

>>51651522
Infiltration Lens and a better commander

>>51651596

what commander would you recommend?

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>>51651556
>Doesn't say if they are the ones they like or dislike
>No reason given

Please apply yourself. You can do better than this. See me after class.

>>51651383
Jund and Sultai for favorite they are both just so metal and have fun mechanics. Esper and Jeskai are my least favorite, not necessarily flavor wise I just don't have fun with control.

>>51651623
What do you like most about Khemba?

>>51651645
lazy question, lazy answer

>>51651552
I'd also say Ghave, he's ridiculous but I only break him out when it's cutthroat time

Otherwise I'd say RG Wort. I packed a lot of different wincons in there and it's fun to see which one you can build to

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>>51651383
>fav shard
I started with Alara and I gotta say Bant. Mechanics and aesthetics just feel right to me. Every time I see a card with those three colors together I get giddy. NuTamiyo made my heart soar and I've never been excited for a set like I am for Amonkhet. Can't wait to brew whatever Bant Legendary they print.
>fav wedge
Junk. I love brewing in every format in this color combo. Everything feels great value.

>Least fav
Ain't about that negative shit

>>51651552
Omnath, Locus of Mana. A ridiculous amount of mana and a ridiculous amount of draw combines to form a ridiculous amount of fun.

>>51651665
the tits

>>51651669
>I'm smart, I just don't apply myself lol

Middleschool sure is rough, huh champ?

>>51651727
Sharuum And a length of rope

>>51651745
No need to be rude, the question is very dull so I gave a halfhearted response. I don't know why you insist in getting all worked up over it.

>>51651745
>>51651645
>>51651383
Jesus Christ you're insufferable.

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Want to make a naya dual commander using these two.

Primary Wincon: Commander damage
Secondary Wincon: saproling shenanigans

Plan is to keep Bruse on the back burner until I need him to give Tana DA/LL.

What are some good ways availible in naya to pump the shit out of Tana?

>>51651802
Anthems? Pumps her and the saps. And Bruse for that matter. I'm brewing something similar but with Ravos instead of Bruse.

>>51651802
Definitely want Bastion Protector.

>>51651802
Kessig Wolf-Run has been pretty much the win condition in my Bruce deck. It's more of a control deck, but still, seems good with Tana as well.

>>51651665

just making the cat tokens really, i think i was gonna lean towards Sram

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anyone have any lists for a reanimator deck with yidris at the helm?

>>51651802
>What are some good ways availible in naya to pump the shit out of Tana?
Doublers like Gisela
Firebreathing like Captive Flame/Crown of Flames/Kessig

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>>51651383

>Favourite Shard
Naya. I love the idea of giant beasts, I guess there's a big timmy in me

>Least favourite shard
Bant. I don't dislike it a lot, but I find Exalted boring as a mechanic.


>Favourite Wedge
Temur. I've liked the colour combination since planechase, I love Maelstrom Wanderer and decks built around him. Honorary mention to Mardu.

>Least favourite wedge
Abzan. I don't really have a reason, but I have to choose one.

>>51651964
Well, if you want specially cat tokens, then yeah, the Titty Kitty's your girl. If you want tokens in general Rhys The Redeemed is an easy answer, Darien, King of Kjeldir can be fun if you're really married to mono white and all of its problems, Ghave, while more combo focused, can be done as a token commander. Then there's any given Zombie tribal commander.

>>51651383
favorite shard/wedge: esper, because it is my favorite color combination, mainly because I like control and the first intro deck I bought was the alara/conflux esper deck.


Least favorite shard/wedge: temur. I just don't care much for the color combination.

>>51652089
true, but i'm more focused on the voltron aspect of the deck, and I feel like kemba allows me to have tokens and then do voltron

though sram might be better cause he gives me the card draw i really need

I am conflicted between Riku and Maelstrom as my first ever commander. Both seem rad, but I wanted some other people's opinions on the two. I just want to do some cool crazy shit and have fun doing it. Casual edh too.

>>51651383
Favourite Shard: Bant, Because it has fucking Rhino Time Wizard.
Least Favourite Shard: Grixis. No real reason but if I had to choose my least favourite it would be this one.


Most favourite Wedge: Temur. All three of my favourite colors in one, dragons, elves, faeries, merfolk, all the fun tribes. Plus, beat shit up with huge creatures.

Least favourite Wedge: Abzan. Do not know why. I just do not find the colour combination and style to be all that fun or appealing.

>>51652276

I found Riku a bit more fun as a commander, cause I loved copying rite of replication on a craterhoof

>>51652266
If Khemba is really what you want, don't let me talk you out of it!

>>51652276
Go Riku clones.

>>51651552
Selvala. Something about parleys really pleases me

>>51652324
Easy there, Satan

>>51652330
I will test them both out!

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Post 'em?

When do you guys realize it's time to stop working on a deck or possibly break it apart?

What are some deck strategies that you aren't used to playing? If you had to pick a commander for that strategy who would you choose?

>>51652355
If you go kehma, leonin sun standard, khondas banner, mirror entity, are nice includes.

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best commander comming through

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Is it stealing if you pay for it?

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>>51652447
Here's mine.

I usually break commander decks apart when I never use them or don't like the color combo (izzet and jund) much enough to use it a lot. I like battlecrusier magic over much of everything else.

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>>51652447
>C15 commanders
objectively garbage

what do you guys think the theme is going to be for C17?

>>51651552
Sen triplets is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get.

So, I'm relatively new to this game. I do have a Teferi deck with a win con of Chain veil infinite mana with lab maniac and self draw.

How do I improve it? What do I put in?

>>51653557
Id probably cut the lab man win since lab man is such a bad card by itself when theres plenty of options even in mono blue, and use some combination of cards that are better by themselves, like blue sun or capsize for your wincon

>>51653444
2011-wedges
2013-shards
2014-mono
2015-enemy
2016-4color
C17 better be allied colors

>>51651383
>Favorite
>Grixis
I love the combination of tempo, discard and GY value
>Least Favorite
>Bant or RUG
Always feels like UGx goodstuff.

>>51653627
why are they better for wincons?

>>51653701
Do you read? It's literally right there in the post. Or do you really need it explained in detail why blue sun's zenith is better when drawn by itself without already having an infinite draw combo going than laboratory maniac?

>>51653735
Well I have both Stroke and blue sun already in my deck for the sheer draw power.

>>51653765
Replace Lab Maniac with Capsize.

It will let you infinitely bounce all permanents on the board. Wins you the game just like Lab Maniac would, but is also useful otherwise as well.

>>51651383
bant is probably my favorite followed closely by jeskai

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>>51652447

>>51653403
meren and mizzax are great commanders what the hell are you on about

>>51653816
Id like Jeskai more if it wasn't for the Jeskai clan I think. I just don't like the characterization for some reason. I really hate that Esper took artifacts. It really should have been Jeskai. Its kind of cute that they sort of had some artifact cross synergy and themes with the Jeskai but it needed to be the full on artifact three color combo.

>>51653444
probably allied colors, there isnt really anything else they could make 5 decks out of on theme

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Anybody have super secret spicy tech for good ol' Thraximundar? My friend is getting into edh and he loves extra spice in any deck he plays

>>51653909
Thraximundar is pretty boring and not exactly something you build around. I don't know what kind of spicy tech you're looking for.

>>51653909
Just grixis goodstuff desu, Thraximundar is kinda straightforward

>>51651383
>Fave shard
I don't really play a lot of shard stuff, but I guess Grixis. Sedris was fun when I played him.
>Fave wedge
Jeskai. Prime spellslinger colors and commanders that suit the strategy well. Honorable mention for Mardu and their "play speed metal and attack all the time" strategy

>least fave shard
Esper; I'm not one for control.
>least fave wedge
Sultai, for much the same reasons.

>>51653909
Blood artist, butcher of malikir, grave pact, dictate of erebos to make your opponent sacrifice even more stuff and benefit from creatures dying? new kalitas maybe?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AytGwG9vZhw

Get rekt standard babies. Do you agree or are you wrong?

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>>51654425

BEST ACADEMY RECTOR TARGETS

GO

>>51652732
>don't like the color combo (izzet and jund)

maximum pleb

>>51654528
omniscience

>>51654425
ya he pretty much hit the nail on the head, though i do disagree on pauper

>>51654528
omniscience
done

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>>51652447

>>51654528
Pattern of Rebirth

>>51654425
Yeah this is good. Commander offers a lot of variety and flexibility in how and what you want to build, and you don't have to fork over tons of cash to have a fun time with friends.

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post em'

>>51653846
Regardless of how you build a C15 commander, it always plays the same. All the precon commanders are relatively linear, but the C15 ones are probably the most linear decks you can play in the entire format. Absolute trash.
>but Cedh!
Nobody actually cares about Cedh. Mizzix and Meren are powerful commanders, but they're extremely boring IMO.

>>51654528
Divine Intervention

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>>51654671
needs an update

trying to generate infinite mana of any color, and hopefully, generate infinite untaps in Naya.

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>>51654839
woops

>>51654535
Jund is nothing but degeneracy and Izzet is all about either drawing a lot of cards or spell slinging. You have very little choice in what to do.

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What else is there like this and Tidehollow Sculler?

>>51654923
>Fiend Hunter
Oblivion Ring, Journey to Nowhere
>Functionally the same as Fiend Hunter but not stack-abusable
Banisher Priest, Banishing Light, Fairgrounds Warden

>Tidehollow Sculler
Different but similar: Thought-Knot Seer, Spell Queller

>>51651802
I was playing around on cockatrice with a Tana and Reyhan build. Put lots of counters on tana, get lots of saprolings, use them for black sac stuff or anthem +1/+1's so i have like 20 8/8's.

If youre set on Naya, id recomend Berserk, Bravado, Sword of X & X, Angelic Destiny, Bear Umbra

>>51654741
You just don't like toolbox decks or spell slinging, there is nothing wrong with the commanders.

>>51651383
Fav Shard: Jund. fovorite colors in mtg are black, green, red. Jund fits those perfectly.

least fav shard: Grixis. Buddy in my group plays almost exclusively durtley grixis decks with no wincons exept one single combo. i guess im kinda biased

Fav wedge: Sultai. I like what black and green can do with the consistancy of blue.

least fav wedge: Mardu. Honestly, wasnt fun to play in standard and the only good mardu commander is Kaalia

>>51651383
>What is your favorite/least favorite Shard/Wedge and why?

Jund, because it covers 90% of all Goblins and Oozes, which are my favorite creature types. I'm a huge fan of Red and Green as well.

>>51652072
Are you me?

>>51654894
n my u/r deck I can steal creatures, copy creatures, copy spells, deflect spells, take extra turns, draw cards, wipe the board, destroy lands, burn opponents to the face, mill, go infinite and kill you in several of the before mentioned ways. how is spellslinging limited compared to casting creatures and buffing creatures? you should say that you dont like the archetype but not that its limited

>>51654549
In what regard?

>>51651383
I have never played with tricolor commanders.

I like the look of bant though.

I want to get into EDH so I have some questions: The only way to win is always an infinite combo? Are pure aggro decks viable or not? Is just a stupid idea trying to defeat a player by doing to him 40 points of damage?
Also someone has a R/B Wort decklist that can share so I can have an idea of where to start building the deck? Meta would be casual because all of us are new to Commander so the deck would be a bit budget. Really like goblins and I think it would be fun idea.

>>51651383
>favorite shard
esper. I love artifacts

>least favorite shard
probably naya. big beasts are okay but I find it pretty one-dimensional

>favorite wedge
temur. my three favorite colors. gruul + blue magic makes me hard

>least favorite wedge
abzan. whenever you make an abzan deck its a goodstuff.dec. booooring

>>51655224
Token swarms are viable, goblins especially.

>>51655187
i dont think wizards not acknowledging paper pauper is a bad thing, its clearly not important to them and wizards focusing on online magic is a good thing

>>51651383
>favorite shard
Bant, mostly because those are my three favorite colors individually.
>favorite wedge
Sultai, mainly for flavor reasons honestly. The playstyle is cool too, and Tasigur is a pet card of mine (I know he's legitimately good but I like to use him as a janky political thing rather than an efficient body/mana sink.)

>least favorite shard
Grixis. Mainly because I'm a huge Selesnya fag and I need my GW. Marchesa and Mishra are really cool commanders, though.
>least favorite wedge
Mardu, probably. I like a lot of the cards in those colors but no commanders there really interest me, sadly.

>>51653909
Rooftop Storm+Conspiracy

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>filter lands will never be reprinted as non ghost rares

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>>51652447
pretty new to edh but i have f u n usually
wish i could find a group that plays at low power levels though simply because i really don't have the money to spend on cards

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>>51653846
>>51654741
I do agree that the C15 commanders do dictate the direction of a deck. It's one of the real big issues I have with the Mizzix deck, with Meren there is leeway in the kind of reanimator or stax deck you want. Mizzix doesn't really have that sort of freedom. It's all spellslinger and nearly all spellslinger, storm or not, start to look disgustingly similar because everyone is trying to go infinite with Mizzix.

That said, I buy precons because they are inexpensive options on starting a deck to build.

>>51655241
>i dont think wizards not acknowledging paper pauper is a bad thing
It's not so much not acknowledging it as pretending it doesn't exist. They pretty clearly have something against the format, though who could guess why. Maybe they don't want to do more playtesting?

>wizards focusing on online magic is a good thing
It would be if it wasn't consistently garbage. MTGO came out in 2002. Let that sink in for a minute. There are people playing it right now that weren't born when it came out. And it's STILL busted as all fuck. And THEY'RE the ones who broke it by firing the people who made it and farming it off to "in-house programmers."

>>51655381
I don't see why not. They're not especially strong. Really good, sure, but not reserved list good by any stretch.

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>>51655064
>only good mardu commander is Kaalia

are there any cards similar to strata scythe?

>>51655451
>They pretty clearly have something against the format, though who could guess why.
I couldn't tell if this was sarcasm or not. In case it's not because it hurts their bottom dollar and the bottom dollar of the game stores that support them by supporting a format entirely composed of commons. Also unrelated but it feels like theyd have a weird time directly supporting it outside of rarity shifts they already do.

Mikaeus the Unhallowed + Walking Ballista = Infinite Damage
Easier to cast then Triskelion too

>>51655489
Adventuring gear is basically a much weaker version.

>>51655489
Nightmare Lash/Lashwrithe if you're in black

Alright lads I finished a terrible first draft

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/oops-all-hatebears/

Let me know what should stay/go, remember I'm trying to keep out nonpermanent spells

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>>51652447
Yes, I know I'm a tremendous faggot.

>>51655451
>It's not so much not acknowledging it as pretending it doesn't exist. They pretty clearly have something against the format
how do you make that logical leap? they obviously card about the format but they just want it to be online. its why they make online only cards and rare shift shit. paper pauper is a side effect of them pushing online pauper

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>>51655542
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/oops-all-hatebears/
I found it lacking in a few areas.

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>>51655587
>mfw
Should be fixed, give it another whirl

I need a new deck for saturday give me suggestions QUICK

Can anyone take a look at my Kozilek deck? How bad did I fuck it up?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/multi-track-ramping-with-brozilek/

>>51654741
Are you implying that commanders shouldn't have interesting/powerful abilities worth building around? Especially ones designed for the format?

>>51655560
jori list?

>>51655438
Mizzix is secretly the best Goblin Tribal commander bro.

>>51655574
>how do you make that logical leap?
That time they tried to get rid of pauper on MTGO?

>>51655613
>scoop to vandalblast.dec
Jokes aside, it looks alright.

>>51655613
>brozilek
>not the great brostortion as the brommander

dropped

>>51655604
Surrak Dragonclaw hydra build. Go hard with ramp and use your commander's counter protection to bypass one of hydra's biggest weaknesses as a tribe. Get aggressive keywords and tear some anuses wide open. Bonus points for extra combat phases with shit like Savage Beating.

>>51655635
Post list? I've thought about it with just filling the deck with goblin producing instant and sorceries. I just dunno how you close a game. Infinite goblins for lethal?

>>51655630
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/it-takes-two/

>>51655635
>Mizzix is secretly the best Goblin Tribal commander
>doesn't even have black in color identity
wut

>>51655604
eight and a half tails pillowfort deck

>>51655489
Blanchwood armor?

>>51655542
Necrotic Sliver W H E R E

You definitely need more removal on a stick if you're attaching all your utility to bodies. Bone Shredder and Nekrataal would do well for you, neat idea overall

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>>51655665
this is so fucked
I may just have to try it

>spend week and hundreds of dollars constructing a consistent, potent Breya deck
>have way more fun playing my 60 dollar (U)Braids deck

Goddammit.

>>51655649
The brostortion sadly doesn't have annihilator fucking 4, which really does help in fucking your opponent's in the ass.

H-he's in the 99 t-though, so I could s-switch it up if I was in the mood...

>>51655713
just leave braids at home and force yourself to play breya some more. address what is making it less fun, and try to remedy it.
a friend of mine got breya when c16 dropped and hasnt stopped jerking it off every game since so it cant be that bad

>>51655723
ya but what he DOES have is card draw and the ability to cock slap your opponents with counter magic

>>51655741
I built Breya first, and I was in love with it from the start, but there's just something about slamming down fat sea monsters that warms me up in a way that infinite combos don't.

>>51651383
Junk

I like GY decks.

>>51655598
>>51655542

Looks pretty standard, but nothing's wrong with that. I'll say this, I'd try to find room for Zombie Infestation. It's pretty spicy in Alesha. Conjurer's Closet gets work done, too. Infiltration Lens makes her getting blocked not 100% bad. I never seem to get Duergar Hedge-Mage to work to its full potential, but YMMV.

You're at the "throw it against the wall and see what sticks" phase. Have fun with it, she's a good commander.

>>51651383
Favorite:
>Mardu
>Sultai
>Abzan
>Jund
>Naya
Neutral:
>Temur
>Jeskai
>Grixis
Least Favorite:
>Bant
>Esper

>>51655769
maybe slam some t h i c c artifact creatures in breya like inkwell, filigree angel, sphinx of the steel wind, battlesphere etc that you can cast cheap or cheat into play

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Can I combine the Chaos Reigns deck from Planechase and the Yidris precon to make a pretty effective deck? I own both and wondered if it would be good.
Pic semi-related, it's what I want my opponents to say when I use it

>>51655821
I might have to give that a try, seeing as I have have all of those around somewhere.

>>51655769
A F F I N I T Y

Breya triggers Metalcraft all by herself and naturally synergizes well with artifact tokens. Take it one step further with YUUGE affinity creatures, anthems and aggressive combat keywords that you can dip into red for. I'd recommend Impact Tremors to capitalize on your tokens. Don't be worried about price, either- look at Pauper for good examples of affinity on a budget. You'll love it if slapping down fatties is your thing.

So I realized tonight my commander decks are generally a bit too powerful for my group and I want to tone it down a bit and build something with a lower power level that is fun to play against. Any suggestions?

>>51656000
Rosheen Meanderer.

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>>51654839

>>51656000
riku, make a durdle storm deck sucks but is fun to pilot and play.

>>51656000
Animar Morph Tribal

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>>51656000
cant go wrong with goblins

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>>51656138
pretty much any straightforward tribal should fit the bill. i nominate river guide

this is a Daxos the Returned deck that I just brewed. thoughts/opinions?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/daxos-auras-4/

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>>51654839
had to update it, damn.

>>51655525
You do realize it only does infinite damage to itself right? It doesn't get you anywhere.

>>51656552
I'm confused, what?

>>51656552
Well, it can be used for infinite ETB, at the very least.

>>51656579
Mike gives non-humans +1/+1. So, when he comes back in, he won't die when you remove the counter from Undying.

>>51656579
You have Mike and the ballista out, the ballista shoots off a counter. It's still alive as a 1/1 because Mike gives all non-humans +1/+1.

You can have it shoot itself to die, but then you aren't getting anywhere. It needs another piece to combo off. It's not better than Mike+trike.

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Anyone have any sweet Lin Sivvi lists?

>>51656662
>>51656685
oh right. Thanks.

>>51656691
someone here has a super sweet Lin Sivvi toolbox deck that he posted for me a while back, but who knows when he is going to show up. keep posting it until he does i suppose

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>>51651383
Favorite: tied three ways between Abzan, Naya, and Grixis. The first successful deck I made in my group was a Naya Aggro, first EDH was Grixis, and Abzan because I love generic midrange in modern.
Cards after Voice of Resurgence that are glared over are Scavenging Ooze, Sakura Tribe Elder, Courser, and Stonecloaker.
Bottom right is horrible non foils, with the savannnah escaping the group.

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>>51653444
Here's hoping for tribal decks.

>w humans/angels
>u merfolk/faeries
>b zombies/vampires
>r goblins/dragons
>g elves/treefolk

>>51653444
I also think it will be allied colors. hopefully again with the experience counters, I like the concept

>>51651552
My current commander deck. Its the Yidris deck with about 6 or 7 cards changed.

Ramp up with Yidris cascade, and then make everyone discard their hands into either combos, or to cards that get big based on graveyard size.

Just a blast to play and I get to use cascade without feeling like an ass.

I've got ten decks put together right now and I think I'm at my limit. It's so hard to choose which one to play now that I usually end up rolling for it but even then I don't always stick to the die result.

>Marchesa 1.0 shit Death Shenanigans and creature theft
>Freyalise green good stuff
>Sydri artifacts and combo
>Maelstrom Wanderer group hug/chaos
>Kozilek 2.0 big and stompy goodstuff
>Sliver Overlord... slivers (Most expensive due to land)
>Marchesa 2.0 fuck all of your shit
>Angry Omnath land stuff and elementals (my worst deck probably)
>Atraxa +1/+1 counter spam
>Empress Galina MINE (Least expensive by far)

I've lost track of which decks I've played against which players in my LGS.

>>51655224
>Is just a stupid idea trying to defeat a player by doing to him 40 points of damage?

It's not 40 damage. It's 40 damage to three different players.

That said, there's plenty of ways to win without combo. Usually what people think of as aggro decks is fairly different from the norm in other formats though.

>>51651383
Shards?
Jund; Hellkite overlord won me games at the release.

Bant fags can suck it though.

Wedge?
Abzan; Teneb is a straight g. I wish i could build a deck with him

Jeskai is least because of no fun interactions

>>51651383
Shards
Favorite- Jund
Least- Esper

Wedge
Favorite: Abzan
Least: You're reading this in his voice

>>51651383
Favorite Shard: Grixis, but I'm biased since that was my first ever deck I built that ended up being good.

Least favorite: Bant can fuck right off.

Favorite Wedge: Mardu has all the best removal and lets you shit on your opponents for days but Temur has a lot of fun, group huggy shenanigans that can turn the game on its head. I can't pick between the two.

Jeskai is no fun though.

>>51651383
>Favorite Shard
Esper. Fucking love artifacts, started playing during SoM and artifacts have been the bomb ever since.

>Favorite Wedge
Temur. Probably ties up to Animar being my second EDH deck, and my favorite two color combination being Izzet, and green being so damn good in commander. Is also the colors of all the big splashy effects.

>>51651802
Sigil of the Nayan Gods

Anybody here like cube? My playgroup has been having so much fun

I know this isn't the right thread but there's no cube thread and I wasn't sure there was enough interest for its own thread

My playgroup plays edh and cube only right now, potentially getting into frontier as well tho

>>51658062
Cube is awesome, a guy in my playgroup has a cube worth $30,000 or so but we rarely get to play with it since it's hard to find time for 6-8 players at once.

>>51658355

My friend's cube is worth about the same, with the power 9 and all that, lots of fun to play, hilarious when you open a pack that has both sol ring and a Mox pearl or something and you're seriously contemplating passing power 9

>>51658368
Easy pass mox pearl, Sol Ring the ultimate MVP

>>51658379

I agree but it still feels bad passing power 9

The other day I was mind blown that I would've had like a 4th pick tinker, but had to pass it, and I wheeled it anyway lol, and picked up the artifacts I needed in the meantime

Was a weird draft

>>51651802
Ravos is a better partner for her because he enables abzan colors which you can abuse Tana's tokens a lot better with and splashing red allows you to run stuff like goblin bombardement

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>>51657351
>specialized angel tribal support

>be no threat on the board
>still get targeted by one guy in particular
>exile a bunch of his artifacts
>he whinges at me and tells me that I'll feel like an idiot when I see more of his deck
>know I'll lose anyway because I have 3 people targeting me constantly and I have nothing
>he summons his commander Berya before he alpha strikes me
>sac my aura of silence to kill his commander before I die
>he ends up ragequitting before he gets alpha striked by the next guy

Loving Every Laugh

>>51651383
>Fav
GRIXIS GRIXIS GRIXIS
WotC print a Grixis spellslinger already you fucks
>Least Fav
Either Naya or Abzan. Mardu would take the spot if it didn't had Alesha.
I would like Naya a lot more if Tamanoa was legendary

>>51659500
How is jeleva not grixis spellslinger?

Like what would be more spellslinger than casting instants and sorceries for free after getting them for free? I am actually having a hard time imagining what counts if this doesn't.

Sup guys
Some time ago a guy posted here who ran scarred pumas instead of basic mountains and i absolutely loved the idea.
Now I'm thinking about what to use as the equivalent to scarred pumas in the other colors.
Ideas?

How good is island sanctuary in pillowfort?

Also, were any of you playing while old Emmy was legal? How was it?

>>51656031
You look like a fag, and it looks like you play with a bunch of fags.

>>51659617
>>51659617
Ignore the stupid fucker that forgot Jeleva despite himself having a Jeleva deck. I do want another Grixis spellslinger that supports flashback, I've always wanted to make flashback tribal (Yeah I know Dralnu exists but I would live in fear of a Blasphemous Act)

>>51659741
>I've always wanted to make flashback tribal

this might be a stupid idea but maybe some mill deck? maybe even with something like lazav at the helm. mill others for their creatures and yourself for spells

>>51659741
What red instants and sorceries are you looking to add that makes this need to be grixis? I can only think of like 2 solid ones.

Also man up on dralnu, just run sac outlets.

>>51659766
Lazav could to the trick but the main problem is the lack of flashback spells in general, specially in UB since a lot of them have flashback costs with R (therefore making Grixis a better choice). What a deck like that needs is a tool to make spells have flashback. If only there was something like an enchantment with 2U/R: Target inst or sorc card in a graveyard gains flashback until EOT.

>>51659715
storm crows
venerable monk
llanowar elves
liliana of the veil

>>51659875
Burning Vengeance and Guttersnipe, mainly.

>>51659888
Ah yeah, those are good reasons, even if they aren't instants or sorceries.

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I'm considering running this in Grixis Marchesa to potentially permanently steal a creature, but anyone could activate the ability before I'm able to get a +1/+1 counter on the creature.

In that case, it would be kind of like a sorcery for 4 with "Target creature's controller sacrifices it, discards two cards and you draw two cards."
Would it still be a good card?

>>51660036
You could just run control magic, which is strictly better unless you think your opponents are all retarded. And if they are, why do you need deckbuilding advice?

>>51659878
Not bad, but black should be either Dark Rituals or Anowons, white should be Serra Ascendants

>>51657351
But there's already good support for most of those tribes. I'd like to see some tribal support for shit like Warriors, Beasts, Clerics, or Druids. Let's get weird!

>>51660036
It's bad no matter how you look at it.

>>51660136
I would like to see Archer tribal and more support for the little ones, like saprolings, plants and insects

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>>51652447
Usually I stop working on a deck idea if I realize it'll be too far away from the average power level of the group, or after I've tested it about 10 games and it's just not as fun as I thought it'd be.

I don't play a lot of hyper-aggressive strategies; I've done it in the past, and it seemed like I either tore someone a new asshole so fast their head spun, or I'd hit a brick wall once people got their defenses up. Usually one and then the other.

>>51659878
Haha thx that are some good suggestions but if I include lil of the veil I'd rathers just use power 9s to not look like a poorfag.
I thought about the moxes but that'd just cause confusion

>>51658915
Typical Breya player

>>51660397
>Typical Breya player
You mean bad. A halfway decent breya player would have been able to "Alpha Strike" the entire table.

>>51655629
No, but the C15 abilities are far from interesting to build around.

i want to pimp out my brago decks lands, is there anything better than the urza plains/islands?

>>51651383
>fav shard
Esper because it usually ends up doing absolitely degenerate stuff also great flavor most of the time

>least fav shard
Either jund or naya but I don't really dislike any of them

>fav wedge
Abzan mostly for the same reasons as esper

>least fav wedge
Temur because Sarkhan Unbroken is Temur and it makes him shit

>>51660542
Arabian Nights had awesome lands

>>51653829
another tryhard with no imagination

>>51660371
This is funny, because that's exactly what people started to do in early days of magic. They'd just run million moxen to replace lands to avoid the 1-a-turn rule. This is why the 4-of limit was introduced.

Ok guys
Tell me your stance on competetive vs. casual edh
Which do you prefer? Do you completely neglect one if so why?
Also how long have you been playing, what is your meta like?

I like both though i prefer at least somewhat competetive games where can't just durdle around until t6 or 7 but have to constantly ask questions and give answers.
Been playing mtg in general for about 3 years but extremely casall for the first 1 1/2 years but only got into Edh like 18 months ago.

>>51661240
I prefer casual. I personally completely ignore Competitive because if I wanted to play something competitively, there's already plenty of options for me. I play Commander to fuck around and crack jokes with my friends for a couple hours, not to wave my "I'm so good at Magic" dick around.

I've been playing Commander since about... late 2009, early 2010? Largely the meta's pretty casual, but there's a few tryhards.

>>51661240
I build $100 decks for casual because every competitive player I deal with has been a complete asshole, even the ones I like.

Someone suggest me a fun as fuck Red commander.

>>51661349
Heartless Hidetsugu

>>51661294
>every competitive player I deal with has been a complete asshole
Thats a damn shame m9
My playgroup consists of people I've known for roughly 10 years so no matter what happens nobody gets seriously butthurt or spikey even though we're starting to come close regular to t4-5 wins if unanswered

>>51661349
Zada

>>51661349
Bosh if you wanna be more casual
Daretti if you want to do crazy stuff

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>>51661240

>Tell me your stance on competetive vs. casual edh

Casual, but i don't mean battlecruiser durdle forever edh. play like you want to win, but don't play like winning is the "fun" of the format. Sure winning at the end of the match feels good, but We're not playing for money, we're playing to see weird interactions and playstyles interact with each other, not combo off turn 4 and end the game.

Honestly look at it like sitting down to play Mario party with 4 friends. Having fun with mario party is the actual dynamics of the game. Imagine if after 5 minutes of playing, you ended the game and turned it off. That's kinda like what tutoring for the same infinite combo t3-5 every game is like.

>Which do you prefer? Do you completely neglect one if so why?

Like I said, there's a thin line between playing competitively and playing to win.

>Also how long have you been playing, what is your meta like?

I've been playing for about 4 years. My meta is my brother (and his friends ) , me and my friends, and my girlfriend.

I dont understand people who play competitive EDH. Why not play modern or legacy?

>>51661882
I can understand it to an extent, in the sense that it's USUALLY people who get into Commander and just can't turn off "playing as effectively as possible to win as hard as possible as reliably as possible". It's not that they think "Commander is the perfect format to be competitive in", it's that they can't play suboptimally.

>>51652525
How do you get it into your hand?

>>51661973
Beacon. It's the only way anyway.

>>51661900
>I MAKE NEW RAT
Gets me everytime

>>51661973
Commmad beacon is literally the only card that can, and mono black has no way to get artifacts back ( other then like morality shift, elixir of immortallity type stuff and tutoring for it ) if it command beacon gets destroyed or if you sac it.

>>51651383
Mardu and Esper are my favorites, simply because of my Queen Marchesa and Sydri lists.

I have another question:
Would anyone here play a format where any rare or mythic creature can be your commander, but you can't have any legendary permanents in your deck? This would let you run things like Soulfire Grand Master, Disciple of the Ring, and so on, while adding an interesting enough condition (no legends) to keep deckbuilding fresh.

>>51661973
Torpor Orb also helps

>>51651383
Fav wedge

Abzan. I love the control aspects of W/B and the thoughts of growth and creatures

least fav

Temur.

R/G is fine, but blue suddenly makes everything 1000 worse

>>51661973
Command Beacon. You can also theoretically cast her and use Dash Hopes or Withering Boon or Thrull Wizard to get her into the graveyard, where it's much easier to get her into your hand. Or use Torpor Orb.

>>51662097
I would just because TAMANOA but I'm p sure no legends is gonna take out spicy tech from some decks like Mirari from Tamanoa and Grand Master

I want to build a competitive EDH deck with Jori Ein. Any ideas for how to win the game?

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>>51662344
>I want to build a competitive EDH deck

>>51662344
>>51662344

Only wincon is darksteel reactor, build izzet artifacts. Find the reactor and protect it at all costs

>>51662405
What's the problem with that? Some of us actually enjoy playing against strong decks.

>>51662423
I was thinking about Splinter Twin or infinite mana + staff of domination + whatever I want, probably a Capsize.

>>51661933
Because modern is cancer, standard is a mess and I don't like the concept of it, I'm too poor for legacy vintage. I also like the concept of commander (having a card you have excess to most of the time (I don't like the tuk rule change btw)) and like when games take some time with threats being answered left and right
Just because my commander deck is able to win on t4 doesn't mean it will because my opponents usually jave answers.
Granted noone in my meta runs food chain or a doomsday pile but very quick mad value generating combo decks.

>>51661240
My playgroup is "casual" in the sense that we're just ~8 friends that play with each other at home, but we're far from "casual" when it comes to our decks and games.
We're sensible enough to avoid cEDH shit like Food Chain combos, hard stax etc. or stupid shit like winconless MLD, chaos decks etc.

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>>51662447
>Some of us actually enjoy playing against strong decks.
Yeah losing to a turn 3 or 4 infinite combo is really enjoyable.

>>51662684
There is some fun there when everyone is playing equally high level decks. Otherwise I agree with you.
I guess the problem is that I need something degenerate when people show up with Elfball and other extremely fast decks to Commander FNM, and there are people there with near precons.
My combo deck is Marath.

>>51662684
What is an acceptable turn to lose to an infinite combo?

Is it considered a dick move to slow the game down to a crawl?

>>51662759
40

>>51662759
There is none. Whenever you lose to combo or not you misplayed (maybe except for match ups like mass exile + graveyard hate vs reanimator) therefor you have no excuse for losing
You may blame it on bad luck but that won't help you improving

Should Emrakul be unbanned?

>>51662983
No

>>51661349
Kurkesh, he's like having rings of brighthearth in your command zone.

>>51662108
Also platinym angel.

>>51662859
Yes

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Is it playable?

>>51651383
>favorite shard
ESPER. all types of interaction (counter, destroy, exile), can target all permanent types, can manipulate all resources bar lands, and has goat tier flavor. having all of your removal be exile feels amazing.

>favorite wedge
I like mardu as a color combination, but not the way it was implemented in khans block. I like it for white/black with red, not red/black with white, know what i mean? Mardu control feels so good, getting to mix all the meanest effects with the most efficient answer cards. Flavorwise I like Abzan the best.

>least favorite shard
Naya. Creatures: the Tappening doesnt do much for me. I am not a fan of the flavor and I feel that there are more interesting ways to have powerful creatures do cool shit (like Jund).

>Least favorite wedge
Temur. It's not horrible, but I feel like either the red or the blue aspect is neglected on any particular card. It's hard to have a green creature that also feels red/blue, but those that do are pretty rad. Its not bad, its just difficult to really carve out its own identity without losing something.

>>51663259
Yes. Just don't but it in a white deck with life gain, like the guy I played against recently.

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>>51651383
>Least favorites
Bant, Temur, Sultai, Jeskai

>Favorite
JUND

>>51662405
Now now anon, cEDH isn't the same as a 'competitive' EDh deck, they may just have meant a good strong one.

>>51651458
That's a fair criticism of jund.

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>>51655613
>Someone else still runs Butcher
You're a pretty cool guy, anon.

That Annihilator is just too sweet a deal to pass up.

>>51655647
>scoop to vandalblast.dec
>Soul of New Phyrexia and Darksteel Forge in the deck

>>51655613
Ugin and Karn should be mainboard. I don't think Chrome Mox works with colorless cards, someone more knowledgeable in rules help me out here.

>>51655647
/tg/ is terrible at magic - the post

>>51663370
WHEN IN DOUBT

JUND EM OUT
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>>51663573
Chrome Mox doesn't work with colorles mana Because colorless cards don't have a color as the name implies

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>>51662859
It's a legit strategy. Just make sure it's not your only deck. My friend has a "No fun allowed" JAAIV deck that he pulls out maybe one in 5 games. Is it frustrating? Sure, but that's part of the game. And it makes winning against it that much sweeter.

A bunch of pissbabies around here will tell you that there's a right and wrong way to play. Ignore them. EDH is an eternal format with a small banlist. You knew what this was when you started. It's all fair game.

>>51663573
You are correct. Chrome Mox exiling a colorless card does nothing, because colorless is not a color.

>>51663259
It is, but like its cousin Platinum Angel it's kind of a trap. Unless you have a specific combo in mind with it, there are probably better includes in whatever deck you're thinking about putting it in. Remember that, without backup, Artifact Creatures are just about the easiest thing in the game to destroy.

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>>51663477
Honestly, it was only a matter of time until I built it. Running a commander with the title "butcher of truth" is just too cool to pass up.

>>51663573
The maybeboard consists of cards that I'm too poor for, I'd put them in if I could (except chrome mox, I'm just an idiot apparently).

Also, warping wail can counter vandalblast, which is pretty hilarious.

>>51663632
Why? Is the deck not actually alright?

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>>51663890
>mfw I feel the same way about THE MURDER KING
>mfw he's a worse version of an already pretty lousy Rakdos commander

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>>51661364
This. Use with pic related for ultimate shenanigans.

>>51663739
>EDH is an eternal format with a small banlist. You knew what this was when you started. It's all fair game.

So much this. "I don't like [X] type of decks and anyone that plays them is [Y]" is code for "I'm a little bitch boy who doesn't actually like Magic, it's just the only thing in life I can succeed at with any sort of constancy."

>>51664148
I think that's a bit harsh, but it's perfectly fine to say "I don't like [X] type of decks" without insisting that people who play them are dicks.

I don't like playing against hyper-tuned combo decks- not because people who want to play Commander competitively are wrong, or assholes, but because I, personally, don't enjoy those games. I think it's fine to prefer a certain level of competitiveness as long as you're not an asshole about other people doing it differently.

>>51652525
Combo with platnium angel.

>>51664175
>I think that's a bit harsh
Maybe, but I see so of this kind of posting on here that I'm just fucking sick of it.

Yeah, I don't like playing against perfectly tuned, ultra competitive, infinite combo decks every time, but 1) It's NOT every time I play 2) people that consistently play that way get singled out really quickly 3) We all have access to the same pool of cards and if winning is really that important to you, there are cheap, good counterfeits all over the place.

I'm just so damn sick of the "Competitive Commander is Cancer" vs. "Casual Commander is Cancer" bullshit. Shut the fuck up and play the game.

>>51664275
Oh, I'll agree with that.

For me, winning's not even important at all. I have no problem sitting down for a whole day of Commander and losing every single game, if they were interesting games. My main complaint is how frequently it turns things into an arms race, where there's only 2 or 3 people left who just wanna play their "fun" decks while everyone else is building Animar and Zur and Rafiq.

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With all the Kozilek talk I was looking at how many colorless commanders exist, and I hadn't noticed that flavor text on this before.

This might actually be one of the worst flavor texts I've ever read. It reads like a footnote in an encyclopedia, it's dead, lifeless and boring. This is just too egregious honestly.

>>51664472
Hope of Ghirapur is only legendary so you can't have more than one in the battlefield, everything else scream GENERIC to me.

>>51664275
It's especially hilarious to see people bitching about really predictable decks being OP. Local Fedoralord pulls out Kaalia? Golly gee, however will we get out of this one, Scoob? You know what they're gonna do. Disrupt them, target them down, get on with the game.

Honestly, if unfun bullshit like Leovold doesn't get hated out of the game immediately, people have no one to blame but themselves. You KNOW what it's gonna do. Get rid of it, or it's gonna do it.

>>51664500
Well, that and the fact that it depicts one specific named vessel that they created for story purposes.

>>51664508
The frustration comes from the fact that you get forced into a situation where you either get cockslapped out of the game super early, or you hate someone ELSE out of the game super early. Nobody with any sense thinks Kaalia is OP, but it's not fun when she comes down swinging on turn 3 and instakills someone with Master of Cruelties. It's also not fun if you have to aim every piece of removal you have at one player to keep them completely out of the game.

>>51664472
Oh wow, yeah. That's really dull. I'm not one to hop on the "everything was better back in the day" bandwagon (because I remember back in the day and it had it's own issues) but the flavortext has been really off, lately. SOE was alright, but BFZ and Kaladesh blocks have been more miss than hit.

>>51664530
>created for story purposes
>is destroyed by dovin baan before it gets used
>instead transports planeswalkers
it should have been sac this after combat damage put a planeswalker from your hand onto the battlefield, but they didnt. This card was made before they formed the gatewatch and crammed in.

>>51664303
Wait, is Rafiq cancerous?

>>51664541
But if you do this consistently enough, the tryhards stop playing those decks. Field testing has confirmed this. Plus sometimes you get treated to a show of autistic tableflipping.

My favorite thing is when they say shit like "I would have won if you hadn't ganged up on me." So, you would have won if you only hadn't lost first? Yeah, no shit. And if your mom had balls she'd be your dad. Sorry you chose to play a social game. Maybe give 40k a shot.

>>51664614
Can be. Best Voltron commander in the best colors to support a Voltron strategy.

>>51664614
Nah, he's lower-end of Pubstomp. It's just that he can basically bitch-slap someone out of the game quickly if you didn't have an answer.

>>51664617
Thing is, that requires everyone else to join in. I've seen communities where people won't "gang up" on the obvious threat because it's 'mean'.

And that still doesn't change the problem of having to completely switch gears on how you play just so you don't get accidentally a one-shot on turn 4.

>>51664617
>My favorite thing is when they say shit like "I would have won if you hadn't ganged up on me."
Or when they call the casual deck that won the match they got hated out of "cute" like that's supposed to be some kinda insult? Nigga, I'm adorable, you don't gotta let me know.

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>>51653630
>tfw C17 will be 5 colors

>>51651383
>Favorite shard
Grixis. First one I played with, and has all three of my favorite guilds
>Least favorite shard
Either Esper or Jund. Esper because it feels strange for White of all colors to have an emphasis on artifacts and Jund because it never really popped out as much as other color combos
>Favorite wedge
Mardu. It's practically Boros but better.
>Least favorite wedge
Narset.

>>51664756
After all the bitching they did about how hard it was to design for 4 colors? Don't count on it.

>>51664756
Only 1 deck? Jews will push as much product as possible, so maximum amount of colours will be 4

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Dedicated commander player here, need some suggestions on a new commander deck.

Pic related are my current decks. As you can see I don't like super aggro (Rakdos is an exception). Phenax has been far my favorite deck with Baral a close second. Any others commanders that I can sit back and "watch the world burn?" I had my eyes on Experiment Kraj or Jihora

>>51664756
i have insider information. it's going to be 3-color commanders, each with an ability that works from the command zone. the BUG one will be "pay 1000 mana, each opponent loses 1 life"

>>51664911
Well, if you want to sit back and watch the world burn, Mono-red is the way to go. I'd suggest Daretti stax.

>>51664926
>tfw its not unreasonable for ug to make infinate mana
step your shitposting game up.

>>51664911
>Any others commanders that I can sit back and "watch the world burn?"
Nekusar does this fairly well, as well as "Death and Taxes" like Uncle Karl and Kambal.

>>51664839
It's actually much easier to design 5-color cards than 4 color. Keep in mind that prior to C16 there were exactly 5 four-color cards in the game, whereas there were 15 WUBRG ones (16 if you count Transguild Courier)

The real dig would be building a 5 color manabase on a budget for the decks

>>51664472
to be fair no one would probably know what the fuck this was without the flavor text, though I guess it could have been done a little better in some way. Even the developers had no clue what the fuck it was in the file without explanation for why it existed according to today's M-Files article

>>51664926
Nah, I'm MaRo's bull, so I have the real spoilers. BUG one will be working from command zone and it says "at the beginning of each upkeep, draw a card and gain 3 life" and "you don't have a maximum hand size"

>>51664926
My Uncle works at Nintendo and he says that they're just gonna release blocks of wood with Sol Rings glued to them

>>51665001
But that's what they did for the past two years, why would they do it a third time in a row?

>>51665018
Cause people bought it

>>51665036
I guess that's the only reason that matters.

Things I like:
>strong synergies
>efficient budget cards
>beating fancy decks and watching people sperg

Things I don't like:
>durdle control decks that just Fuck up the board and never win
>fancy lands, particularly fetches
>people who build bad expensive decks then bitch about how bad and expensive they are

>>51664926
insider anon here again. the next commander product will have a new concept called "precon mythics" which means that every 100th precon deck includes an extra rare card replacement for one of the existing ones that will be playable in every format. i won't spoil you what kind of card it is, but just imagine "sneak attack but for spells"

>>51654469
I swear to god Wedge is the greasiest looking motherfucker I have ever seen

>>51665085
Karlov though you need swords so.

>>51665085
wow dude 6/6 exact same opinions as me

marry me

>>51665119
Shit, he'd be in the running for beauty queen at the shop in my town. He at least looks like he can spell toothbrush.

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>>51665119
What the fuck did you just say about me you little bitch
Read it in his voice

>>51664911
Nekusar is great for that and queen marchesa stax also gets to sit back and chill

>>51665085
play blood moon

>>51665085
I would recommend Alesha. Does all the things you like, not too many of the things you don't (though Mardu colors make mana fixing a bit harder than some others).

>>51665093
isochron scepter as a foil?

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Anyone have a Phelddagrif deck? I'm considering something similar to this build http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/too-much-group-hug-phelddagrif-mill-surprise/

>>51659736
Well that's not very nice :(

>>51660505
The most complex of the C15 was Wade into Battle because you were challenged to find a replacement for every card in the 99.

>>51665254
>tfw you make a completely different boros deck than what they wanted you to play and you just have kalemne as the instant kill rape machine of the deck.
Also the most exp Ive gained on her is 3

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>>51662090
>mono black has no way to get artifacts back

>>51665001
This made me laugh a lot harder than it really should.

Nah, C17 will be friend color pairs with some new mechanic like Experience counters was, and/or alternately, with pre-existing mechanics that don't have enough cards yet/have more room to play around with

expect a lot of mechanics from Theros, and sets like Conspiracy

main commander will have the new fancy mechanic like exp counters or interactions from the CMZ, alternate commanders will play with the "return to mechanics", such as an RG Monstrosity commander or a BR Dethrone, so on and so forth

Expect to see neutered or fixed versions of old mechanics for the ones they can't get enough recent stuff for, like Improvise is to Affinity

Expect to see exclusive foil Plansewalker cards in each deck that attempt to cash in on Magic history and/or Tumblr-friendly lore to attract more players to the products, while also ensuring that the secondary market prices stay high for all but the shittiest deck

>>51663774
Same reason extraplanar lens imprinting wastes does all of nothing.

>>51665297
>foil nahiri with a feminine penis to appease the lbgtqbbq
is it so much to ask for a little representation?

>>51665297
Yeah I'd be willing to bet money it'll just be allies with some fancy new mechanic. They actually said in one of their articles they tucked away double faced cards since they thought having double faced commanders would be enough of a gimmick to carry its own year of product. So maybe they're going to try double-faced allied color commanders.

>>51664911
>Skeleton Ship

My nigga

>>51665354
I know, Magic just doesn't feel like a safe space any more.

>>51665297
Now, for my actual hopes
>Friend commander set has a fourth "alternate" commander that's actually just another partner card to round out the ones we already have to a full 20
>Wedges set with a middle-of-the-road Abzan commander that's actually interesting or fun, maybe a group-hug enabler with a touch of Black thorns/group drain/etc
>Fabricate commander
>Yidris, but Eldrazi and with Devoid

>Not!Soulfire Grand Master but legendary

>A "commander" that somehow lets you run a non-legendary commander and/or cards like Elberus so people will shut the fuck up about the Binding Blade, Genju of the Realm, Soulfire Grand Master, so on

>>51665354
/d/ here, I don't magic for waifu but I'd let her forge my stone any day

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>>51665197
Come the fuck at me, bro. Many Magic the Gathering players ask if I should beat your fat ass.

>>51665297
Honestly, none of that sounds in any way bad to me.

>>51665397
>>Friend commander set has a fourth "alternate" commander that's actually just another partner card to round out the ones we already have to a full 20
If they can get it right, sure. Partner is the best example of Wizards ruining a good idea through clear, abject laziness.

Sidar and Tana Saproling Tokens, with a budget of about $100.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/a-bloody-garden/

Any suggestions? It's reasonably solid, though I will freely admit that if either partner gets removed repeatedly the deck stops working, but I'm not sure there is a way of fixing that.

>>51665480
Avenger of Zendikar

>>51665480
Protect them from removal with Lightning Boots or Swiftfoot Greaves.

Looks good to me, maybe grab a Rith the Awakener and a Nullmage Shepherd to stick in there some time.

>>51665447
>>51665447
>Partner is the best example of Wizards ruining a good idea through clear, abject laziness.
Explain

What would be the best funpolice commander? For multiplayer, if there's a possibility to have themecards like 'enforcers' etc all the better.

>>51665398
Fuck I laughed