Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

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>>51633127
Rate my new Fracture of Biel-Tan list

>post yfw Horus never died and has been perverting the golden throne for 10000 years
>knowing the imperium would never trust him, and refusing the marks of chaos gods, Abbadon has launched 14 CRUSADES to rid the imperium of the false emperor

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Brand new to 40k here, I've been reading up on the lore lately and I'm really loving it but something is bugging me about the Chaos Gods. Why don't they ever directly intervene? I could only imagine just how powerful someone like Khorne is but instead of actually getting out there and fighting he lets others do it for him. Is the Emprah keeping them at bay or something?

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>>51633181

>>51633127
>armess
You had one job.

>>51633201
They exist in the warp, and cannot manifest in realspace.

>>51633201
Because they can't enter the materium (our universe)

>>51633221
>>51633222
Couldn't he possess someone really powerful? Maybe a chaos titan or some shit?

>>51633201

Why would a Chaos god directly intervene? That's like you caring about the daily lives of ants...

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Hey anons, which books are good if I want to read some AdMech fluff? Want to learn more background info about my dudes and knowing Black Library half the novels are shite.

>>51633262
Just don't read the garbage that is Priests of Mars.

>>51633243

the only good way to get rid of slaanesh would be him coming directly to suck the emprah's soul of the golden throne, by using failbaddon.

>>51633241
Unless said Chaos Titan is as big as an entire hive world, then no.

>>51633181

>Wraith must start outside Raiders T1 and can only move 6" after embarking
>Paper-mache HQ
0/10

I've seen a couple annons post homebrew codexes/datasheets that look like legit GW work. Does anyone have a template I could use to do the same?

>>51633241
Possession isn't entering the materium, its possession.

Plus they're gods and they're chaos, they don't give a fuck about the materium.

Don't equate chaos with evil as much as 40K tries to push it.

>>51633288
>Everything has the same faction
They can start embarked

>>51633288
but thats wrong. The reborn warhost makes them all one faction.

>>51633278

You can't get rid of a Chaos God. You can imprison it, but it needs to be trapped in an element of it's domain... like the Goddess Arianka.

>>51633262
Priests of Mars

3rd edition rulebook pdf anyone?

Land Raider Crusader or Redeemer?

MAGICAL GIRL PRETTY WARRIOR SAINT CELESTINE: THE ANIME, WHEN?????

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Will Orks receive new models with 8e?

I really like their lore and fluff both in 40k and AoS. I was thinking about running Ironjawz and start my journey in wh40k with Orks to save on paints and master this specific kind of models but God help me - when I saw 40k Orks models in person I have vomit. I like their machines and Mad Max aesthetic but boyz look like piece of shit from 80s. Is there any chance that GW - noticing the success of AoS Orruks - will give us some new and neat greenskinz stuff? Or maybe they will leave Orks to die as shabby NPC-tier faction?

>>51633367
"In the Name of the Emperor, I will purge Xenos and burn Heretics, and that means you!"

>>51633262
Titanicus. It's not really admech per se, but it's relevant and good.

>>51633127
>Like armess and now spineless bitch that he always was
>forgot "the"
>forgot the "L" in armless
Are you cringing every time you look at this picture you made?

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>>51633181

did commorragh really blow up too?

Saint Celestine is for ________

>>51633384
Orks look great from the front on, then you see those gorilla butts.
I hope they get more upright models in 8th (at least a mix of spines)

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>>51633303
>>51633304

My bad, I must have missed it.
I know they count as part of the same detachment/foramtion, where does it say they have the same faction?

>>51633416
Invaded by demons, I think.

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>>51633281

>>51633426
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFD6EFVsTg
adjusted to reasonably replace internet with Celestine

>>51633384
But I think boyz look cool...


Anyway, hopefully they get new wartrakk and deffkopta models.

>>51633416
only a bit of it.

Vect is safe.

He took advantage of the situation and sent his rivals deal with Khaine's gate so they can get raped for eternity by daemons while he's gathering his kabal and close allies in another part of the webway.

and if Vect is fine, the dark eldar are fine.

>forcing a meme the thread
At least I2 anon was funny the first few times

>>51633426

Backstabbing Abaddon

>>51633452
Remember that Malys is still after his ass. Either he falls or she.

>>51633367
>>51633385

Only when the /tg/ drawfag embargo ends

>>51633412
>>51633453

>being this overdramatic grammar nazi and (You) towards 1 typo
>tyring to force a meme

are you 12 nigga?

>>51633127
Where's the fucking Duncan video

>>51633384
> I was thinking about running Ironjawz and start my journey in wh40k with Orks

Thats what I've done. The AoS Megaboss is far superior to the Warboss shit 40K offers and they look better than Ghazghkull's crap model.

The Ork Brutes also make far more imposing Ork Nobs.

Plus running a Boar Boy Ork Brute alongside some Warbikers really makes them stand out.

Orks in 40K are so fucking lazily designed and look like shit.

Our range is also shit and we need Squiggoths!!!

>>51633426
Inspiring the faithful with righteous zeal

>>51633432
It's on the army special rules page.

>>51633201
>Why don't they ever directly intervene?

They do when they're bored. They used to have these back in Warhammer's 3rd edition...

>Eye of God
>At the beginning of the battle, you may pick one Champion or Sorcerer of Chaos from your army. Roll a D6 and Consult the chart below. No re-rolls are allowed. The result applies for the rest of the battle. If you have no Champions or Sorcerers, or don't wish to play this card, discard it.
>1. Chaos Spawn: Your Champion or Sorcerer is turned into a foul Chaos Spawn! See the special rules for Chaos Spawn.
>2. Cosmic duel: Your Champion is summoned to fight in a cosmic duel. Remove the model from the battle. The model will return on a roll of 4+ made at the start of any of your following turns and is placed anywhere on you own base line and may move normally that turn. However, if you roll a 1, he is lost forever to the Realm of Chaos.
>3+ Gift of the Gods: Add +1 to either the model's Strength, Wounds or Toughness. You may choose which one to increase.

>The Chaos gods are not satisfied with the slaughter! They resurrect fallen warriors on both sides to fight again for their amusement!
>This card can be used as soon as both armies have suffered at least one rank-and-file casualty. When this card is played both players can nominate any one of their units that has suffered casualties. The unit must not be fleeing and must have at least one normal trooper left. Roll a D6. Each unit may resurrect that number of models. Normal cavalry counts as 2 models, while daemonic cavalry such as mounted daemonettes, and all models with more than 2 wounds count as 3 models. Note that this may not take the number of models in the unit above the original, and you may only resurrect normal troopers, not characters, standard bearers or musicians.

But they aren't desperately trying to win, they're here for the entertainment...

>>51633453
Thanks man, its good to see that after nearly a year of posting it that its gained recognition.

So why are some of the books in the mega .mobi and not .epub?

Just wanted to say thank you to whoever mentioned Sargon of Akkad last thread as something to listen to while painting. Even if I don't agree with everything he's saying, it's interesting enough to listen to.

>>51633466
>Malys
>relevant
kek
she got her chance but now that Yvraine stole her poison-tipped fan shtick, she'll never ever get a miniature, let alone get to do anything that matters in the fluff.

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>>51633430
This is just ridiculous. I know they are shit to play right now but dear God - I would run them just to have a casual fun but this appearance

>>51633297
>Don't equate chaos with evil as much as 40K tries to push it.
That's the stupidest thing I read in quite a while
Chaos is whatever GW says it is since they invented it

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Is it just me or does The Yncarne (pic related - rules) not have an invulnerable outside of FNP?

>>51633321
Don't lie. Malerion blinded and muted Slaanesh with abyssal shadows. Tyrion bounded him with chains of pure light. The two then dragged Slaanesh away from his realm to whereabouts unknown.

Slaanesh was never seen again. Afterwards the population of aelves increased in the realms.

>>51633521
It's a Daemon.

>>51633521
>Daemon

>>51633528
>>51633526

Goddamnit, thanks

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>>51633491
can't speak for the other anon

Can some anon post for me pic of page 273 3rd edition rulebook?
Pretty please.

So please explain to me, are Saints daemons or daemon-possessed? Is there anything in the lore that directly supports this?

>>51633518
You know how Matrix was a fucking awesome film, and then Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolution came out and fucked up the story line? Thats what GW is doing with Chaos.

Its original invention was Chaos being chaotic, the gods were much more complex than your weekly American Saturday cartoon villain.

If you want big bad evil you go for the CSM or the users of chaos, not Chaos itself.

>>51633525

So they've got Slaanesh imprisoned somewhere. They might even be using Slaanesh to increase the aelven birthrate... nothing about it being destroyed.

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>>51633521

Dearest Yncarne, I have such wonderful things to show you.

>>51633412
Also forgot a the right before armless.

>>51633560
b but thaat would empower slaanesh. Maybe

>>51633546
Daemon as a title describes warp creatures usual malignant.
The saint was in theory human but evolved into something greater within the sea of souls and is now a warp creature

>>51633561
>teleports behind a unit on the other side of the map
psh... nothing personnel monkeigh... *unsheaths wraithknight*

>>51633241
>>51633201
If a Chaos Gods manifests into reality, then reality explodes since the Chaos God is not a singular being. They are their realms itself. The things setting on the thrones are just avatars.

Anyways, the Chaos Gods don't really care about the real space most of the time. The Great Game of Chaos is about dominating the multiverse in which the galaxy is but a speck.

>Is the Emprah keeping them at bay orsomething?

Nah, the whole pylon business revealed that the Emperor is a fraud.

>>51633577
>Nah, the whole pylon business revealed that the Emperor is a fraud.

кaкoй?

I like how people hate in certain cheese from factions with lines of "well if you exclude everyone else's cheese then you can see how clearly over powered this one thing is"

>>51633569

Can't be empowered if you're imprisoned. Also if Slaanesh was destroyed, all his daemons would instantly disappear. To quote the GW designers...

>Daemons are not living creatures. Each one of them is a facet of a Dark God’s power and nature. They are semi-independent, but ultimately they are only fragments of a greater whole. The mortal servants of Chaos are also slaves to the Dark Gods, their minds and bodies are twisted by the Warp, but they can still make decisions, hope, dream, and despair. They can plot and betray. That mortal independence, ultimately, is what makes the Gods crave their souls.

Daemonettes, fiends and steeds of Slaanesh still around? Then the fourth power ain't dead. He's locked up somewhere.

Fracture of Beil-tan fluff leaves a bad taste in my mouth, at least after reading the one dudes write up on bolter and chainsword

Apparently the craftworld died due to a daemonic incursion coming through a webway portal.

Is it better to field marker lights on drones or just use the points on pathfinders

>>51633546
Empowered human. She gets her power from Emperor but can be cut off from his guidance and she became normal human.

>>51633630
Its better to have a penis and not field Tau.

>>51633471
i'm a drawfag but i can't draw female character

>>51633598
The Pylons are the only things that are keeping real space (at least in the galaxy) from sinking into the warp. They kept the galaxy safe from the Warp for 60 million but the damage sustained from ages of no maintenance (the Necrons were sleeping) and Abaddon destroying them in his crusades are allowing the Warp to flow in the galaxy, empowering Chaos, causing warp storms, and opening warp rifts. With the destruction of the Cadian pylons, now the Eye is expanding to consumed the whole galaxy dooming it to destruction.

tl;dr Pylons are holding back the warp. The Emperor ain't doing shit about the leakage.

>Eldar get even more toys to HellenKellerClownhammer everyone else.
Fuck GW.

>>51633620
Slaaneshi daemons and warlords are seeking to replace Slaanesh with a new Ur-Slaanesh, though.

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>>51633416

>>51633546

Humans with more than one soul.

Standard humans have one soul, like a burning candle. A psyker's is like a torch, bright, attracting deamonic moths, but can burn you, etc.

Celestine is like a golden candle holder. Snuffing out one means there are still more burning candles to relight it.

>>51633630

Marker commander is my preferred HQ.

There's a forge world marker and target lock relic great for it.

>>51633630
Depends how the rest of your army looks. Pathfinders can bring some solid guns to the table and secure objectives if you don't have other things to do it.

>>51633632

with a transformation sequence

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6HAHogcHFI

>>51633679

Well yes, with the boss gone, someone's gotta be in charge... how does that mean Slaanesh isn't locked up?

>>51633647
>i can't draw female character
Could you post your attempts to draw one? I have see some drawfriends claiming they can't do something but they were just too diffident and actually pretty good

>>51633498

Sad day.


In one of the eariler screenshot of the Fracture of Biel-Tan it mentioned the DE Covens. Any more word on that now that there's more pictures.

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How does this look for a casual 1000pts list? It's a WE detachment so they all have VoTLW as well.

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>>51633660
So they're snuffing 40k like they did with Fantasy?

>>51633682
>>51633546
Daily reminder that Celestine has limited lives. She is already at her final lives. Each time she dies, she comes closer to her final death.

>Chaos Gods provide infinite lives for their dudes depending on their whim (See lucius, Valkia, Skaar)
>Emperor gives a limited number of ress

Shhhieeeet.

>>51633705
If Slaanesh is replaced by a new dude, then old Slaanesh would be homeless and with no authority.

>>51633713
Nah, someone is going to fix it.

>>51633711

>Khorne berzerkers
Literally no reason to take these guys over Chaos marines with MoK.

>>51633262
Mechanicum is pretty solid.

>>51633733

Until Slaanesh is freed...

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>>51633713
My gut says yes but maybe my gut is wrong.

>GW is writing new campaigns
>rushed and shitty
>new broken rules
>people buys it because of broken rules
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkcL6wzCJl8

>>51633711
>51633679
>999
Just as planned

>>51633716
Quality over quantity.

>>51633708

well i'm gonna draw a female for you,but beware, i mostly draw men and necrons, it won't be pretty

>>51633734
You can only run 'zerkers in a Maelstrom of Gore.

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>>51633716

Ezekyle, The emperor gave her infinite lives cheat, you have one and your ass is marked already to be buttfucked by all 4 if you lose it

now stop it, its getting ugly to see you trying to justify your ineptitude to killing her.

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>>51633773
Just slap big ass tits on it and 97% of anons will be content

>>51633749

but its awesome.
I love my celestine :)

>>51633713
What the ever loveing shit is up with that gif?

>>51633792
No, read up her page long speech. She already lost a huge portion of her soul. She has enough left for like one or two ress and then it's over.

>>51633799
i can't draw tits and non muscular asses
but i will try nonetheless
also, accepting 1(one) request

>>51633821
Gellar field failure.

reposting:
how is my 1500 point list looking?
My numbers are relatively low because I only have basically this many models and converted my list up from my 1250 list. I also have a haemonculus and a squad of hellions, but from what I can tell hellions are awful and the haemonculus is only really good with the coven supplement, which I don't have
The incubi are an escort for the archon

>>51633826
I need a pic of Sisters of battle hugging a Emperor body pillow (of him in his prime.)

>>51633836
Empty

>>51633836
Perfect. Don't change a thing

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>>51633836
whoops

>>51633748
They gonna fuck 40k and leave only 30k, cos 40k dont have enough marines in it.

>>51633826
>non muscular asses
My GF is playing football the real one - european so I'm okay with that. Do something lewd and nurgle

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>>51633843
You fucker steal my request

>>51633384

My guess is that it's going to involve Armageddon; it's revealed in the Beast series that Armageddon is actually Ullanor, the homeworld of the Beast. Also, at the end of the Ghazghkull supplement it's revealed that Orkimedes has nearly perfected a massive Tellyporta that will allow Ghaz to travel between Octavius and Armageddon in the blink of an eye.

>Ghaz tellyporting to Armageddon triggers long dormant Ork technology on the planet back to life, both because he's charged up with Gork and Mork, and because a tellyporta capable to going between planets must be fucking enormous
>Ork structures start rising out of the ground, Ghaz's boys are confused but he says it's a sign from Gork and Mork
>One of the buildings opens to reveal a gigantic Ork, bigger even than Ghaz
>It's a PrimeOrk, held in stasis following the fall of the Beast
>"No-one's 'arder than me, git" Ghazghkull, M41.999
>Massive fight ensues
>Finally with a gigantic headbutt, Ghaz wins
>PrimeOrk swears allegiance to the Great WAAAAGH
>Ghaz tells his lads on Octavius to head through the portal, because Armageddon is clearly special
>Combining these two forces leads to a critical mass of Orks on Armageddon, and they start to evolve, just like in the Beast series
>One, smarta than the others, emerges, whom Ghaz declares to be the Herald of da Green
>Sends the Herald out to other concentrations of Orks, to tell them the Great WAAAGH is coming
>Ork tirumverate: Ghaz, PrimeOrk, Herald.

Anyone know the value of the Genestealer part of the Deathwatch Overkill box? A friend plays GSC and I'm thinking of starting up space marines so we're thinking of splitting it, but I would end up paying more than I otherwise would if we halved it.
I've been trying to figure out the different sets that make up the Genestealer portion but the only clear cut box that it has that GW also sells is the Broodcoven box, and that alone is almost the cost of a squad of 10 Deathwatch vets.
For those that don't know, in addition to the models that make the Broodcoven, there 2 purestrain (but they come in sets of 8), 4 aberrants (which aren't even sold), and 28 hybrids (looks like 16 neophytes and 12 acolytes).

>>51633493
Black library sold some older ebooks in both mobi and epub

>>51633859
I'm sure they won't do that, but who knows? Not me.

>>51633561
Like how to get shot to shit by 10 dire avengers?

Lots of stuff can show them that silly anon.

>>51633881
>Finally with a gigantic headbutt, Ghaz wins
"Sssssss.... Aaaah, me zoggin knee"

Hey, how do editions work? When the next one comes out, do I need to start buying from square one?

t. Someone who's just starting to get into this stuff

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Post absolutely abhorrent formations.

>>51633716
Daily reminder that even if that's true emps can just make another living saint

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>>51633881
>Ghazghkull who can't even beat one commisar will defeat a Prime Ork.

>>51633950
>Meltavets' Grand Day Out

>>51633961
He's fought Yarrik one on one and beat him. He just let Yarrik live because they're best butt bros.

>>51633950
But that's actually pretty good. I mean it's not the most powerful formation in the world, but it makes more aggressive IG lists workable. Bolt it on to some mechanised Marines or Sisters to give the army some extra punch and it'll work pretty well.

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Reposting, hoping I get as good of input as I did yesterday

1850 The Purge (Vraks Renegades and Heretics) [Primary Detachment]
HQ
Renegade Command Squad: 1x Arch Demagogue (Ordnance Tyrant, Devotion of Nurgle)

Elites
Renegade Strike Battery: Griffon, heavy flamer
Renegade Strike Battery: Griffon, heavy flamer
Renegade Strike Battery: 2x Renegade Wyverns, heavy flamers

Troops
20x Plague Zombies
20x Plague Zombies

Heavy Support
Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery: 3x Rapiers, 6x crew, weapons training
Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery: 3x Rapiers, 6x crew, weapons training
Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery: 3x Rapiers, 6x crew, weapons training
Renegade Rapier Laser Destroyer Battery: 3x Rapiers, 6x crew, weapons training

Fortification
Aegis Defense Line, quad gun

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Allied Detachment (Chaos Space Marines; Word Bearers Legion)
HQ
Sorcerer on palanquin, master level 3, spell familiar, bolt pistol, force sword

Troops
5x chaos space marines
Rhino, Perdus Rift Anomaly

Heavy Support
Fire Raptor, 2 reaper autocannon batteries, 4 balefire missiles

___
Heralds of Anarchic (Daemons)
HQ
Herald of Tzeentch, Paradox Psyker, ML3
Herald of Tzeentch, Endless Grimoire Psyker, ML1
7x Herald of Tzeentch, ML1

>>51633860
>gf is outside playing sports
>you're in here asking for nurgle lewds
I thought pol was just memeing

>>51633950
Anything with Orks.

>>51633950

i like it

>>51633860
Doing this

Not feeling comfortable enough with sororitas and big E

>>51633900
Model wise it's Broodcoven, 2x Acolyte boxes ($40 each. But without options in DWO), 2x Neophyte boxes ($40 each but without options here). Plus there's the squad of Aberrants, which are unique to DWO plus a few additional pure strains and neophytes.

Going by eBay prices the GSC probably represent 2/3 to 3/4 of the value of the box.

>>51633961
He beat Yarrik and let him live to have a good enemy.

Step one read fluff
Step two shit post

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>>51633992
How having a gf excludes me from requesting lewds? What next - ban on faping because also having sex with female?

>>51633989
Demons CAD

Fateweaver 300
The Masque 75
Brims 30
Brims 30
7 Screamers 175

Heralds Anarchic Formation

Lv. 3 Herald, Paradox, Disc 145
Lv. 1 Herald, Exalted, Disc 100
Lv. 1 Herald, 45

Renegades CAD

Command Squad, Nurgle, Ordnance Tyrant 85
3x Earthshakers 165
2x Wyverns 110
Wyvern 55
17 Plague Zombies 51
17 Plague Zombies 51
Quad Mortar 30
Quad Mortar 30
Quad Mortar 30
Quad Mortar 30
3x Rapier Laser Destroyer, additional crew, training 79
3x Rapier Laser Destroyer, additional crew, training 79
3x Rapier Laser Destroyer, additional crew, training 79
Skyshield Landing Pad 75

List that the netlisters have been jerking over at my store, looks like yours without trying to make tax do work. Don't know if you want to keep that or what.

>>51634031
>>51633973
After he tortured Yarrick for a long while.

>>51634035

Just ignore it, and maybe it will go away.

>>51633976
There literally no reason to take it.
>hellhound tax
>wooow veterans with obsec
If only i had more flexible way to get obsec troops and prefered enemy OH WAIT i can. It's called CAD and Kurov's Aquila.

>>51633950
Its an alright formation, my biggest issue is Emp's Blade not being Core.

>>51634035
I would feel like your hand would be a downgrade to your girl. But there are tons of shit that can happen to make you use it.

>>51634060
>hellhound tax
Hellhounds are good!
But not vs giant monsters...

You could take a banewolf or devildog as well you know.

I'm torn /40kg/
I bought BoP with the intention of converting everything, save Geigor, into extra dudes for my warband, with the custodes being decked out lords
But now the FW custodes stuff looks pretty fucking nice and I kind of want to start a 30k custodes force, is it worth it? Can you use the 30k stuff in 40k? Are the rules for heresy era custodes even officially out yet?

>>51634060
>>hellhound tax
Hellhounds are perfectly serviceable units, not a tax.

>>51634060

>Hellhound
>Tax unit
What world is this.

>>51633430
But they're supposed to look like gorillas.

>>51634022
Alright, thanks. I will be monitoring this thread or the next one - take your time

>>51634093
>Can you use the 30k stuff in 40k?
yes

>Are the rules for heresy era custodes even officially out yet?
inferno technically came out already, yes

>>51633630
I run a dawn blade contingent, so for me marker drones really fits well with the list; what's best for you depends on what your list looks like.

>>51633989
and a much worse, more gimmicky but a bit more fun of a list

1850 Unending Host (Vraks Renegades and Heretics)

HQ
Renegade Command Squad
Arch Demagogue, master of the horde, covenant of nurgle, 4x Disciples

Troops
Renegade Infantry Platoon
15x PCS, Demagogue, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training, krak grenades
15x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training
15x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
15x PCS, Demagogue, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training, krak grenades
15x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training
15x Infantry Squad, x3 plasma guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training

Renegade Infantry Platoon
15x PCS, Demagogue, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training, meltabombs
15x Infantry Squad, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training
15x Infantry Squad, x3 melta guns, chaos sigil, vox, militia training

20x Plague Zombies

Heavy Support
Renegade Strike Battery: 2x Renegade Wyverns

Lords of War
Renegade Baneblade

The Baneblade gives all the cultists fearless and in turn gets a 3+ improvable cover save when getting shot past the infantry squads, like grots. When the squads die they can be brought back to the table outflanking on a 2+ with an extra D6 for movement. It's hilarious thinking off all these special weapons finding their way across the table at any time

>>51634027
Thanks man. So to spit ball it about $240 value for the Genestealers then? Well, that's more than 3 times a veterans box, but he does lose options, and there are the non-model parts of the game to consider. Assuming I ask my flgs to order it, knocking off 20% to make it $132, would a $37:$95 split be reasonable?

Out of sheer curiosity could I start with Dominions inside a Valkyrie when using Castellans of the Imperium formation?

Thanks to GW I will have two Valks. So my double Dominion squads would like to ride in a Valkyrie from time to time instead of their old Repressor.

>>51634062
Yeah, but you can have core lemans. Cadian's got their priorities straight.
>>51634090
>>51634105
>>51634108
I have enough pie plate to blow away hordes, hellhounds are redundant. Guard needs more anti MC, something like vendetta but tank.

>>51634036
Why would you EVER need that many quad mortars, wyverns and earthshakers?
I think full rapiers in the heavy slot is much, much better use
Having Fateweaver is nice but can't you only make the ordnance tyrant work if it's your primary detachment?

>>51634161
Yeah, somewhere around there is fair.

>>51633660
NEED MORE PYLONS

>>51634203
Are you serious? That list just won Las Vegas Open. And the deamons CAD is not primary, Ordnance Tyrant was the warlord.

Okay, it was piloted by one of the best players in the whole world. But still you can only glance at the list and see its power.

>>51634203
>Having Fateweaver is nice but can't you only make the ordnance tyrant work if it's your primary detachment?

Yes, but if its your primary detachment you don't have to worry about the warpstrom table. Fateweaver is just there to re-roll the grimoire so you can get the the re-rolling 2++ on the screamers, get something in combat and start abusing the fuck out of being able to shoot pieplates into CC.

So how is tesseract ark and canoptek stalker, I considering getting one and I like both model wise and as such I am curious as to how they perform on the table.

>>51634036
Is it me, or skyshield is red flag for waacfag?

>>51634257
LVO winner list. That is why

>>51634203
Blasts on low BS with re-rolls just screams better than intended cost wise.

>>51634188
>I have enough pie plate to blow away hordes, hellhounds are redundant.

And that's lovely, but not everyone wants to play artillery spam all day long. Hellhounds give people who want to run more aggressive IG armies options for quickly clearing light infantry.

>>51634231
How many WC do you get with that list? I thought the way to get the most was to maximize the Ararchic Heralds formation and get +1 for every herald.
You can't have 2 primary detachments so you have to take command benefits from one or the other..

>>51634257
I know some people who bought it for terrain and end up bringing it, but yeah it's a competitive addition.

>>51634257
Just means you don't have a quad gun so you have to rely solely on your rapiers for AA
How much can you fit on a skyshield, honestly?

someone got a grip on the white dwarf from february and can give me a link?

>>51634280
Plenty, the formation kind bogs you down, and you only need the one command benefit.

>>51634268
Only time i played against it, it was a waac wolffag. We played apoc game.
He argued a lot and used cheese but was pretty bad strategist and in the end lost hard to my guard and my friends deamons.

Hello chaps, I made a memrise group with courses to memorize rules.

http://www.memrise.com/group/142030/

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>tfw your opponent sulks because you didn't allow him to rearrange the models he positioned last turn for two units because he only placed them like that because because he thought they had a 3+ save instead of a 4+ save and you just vaporised them with a single Heavy flamer blast

Mr one word answers, finger pointing and grunts sure was a joy to play against for the next 3 turns

Does the emperor eat pineapple on his pizza?

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>>51634328
>login

>>51634330
RIP mate, actually worse than rage response.

>>51634330
Well let that be lessons for everyone.

Lesson for him to actually remember his own armys rules and place models properly.

For you to not play him or call him out on his bullshit.

>>51634361

You, could try logging in?

>>51634330

People lack conviction in battle.

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>>51634120

What do you think ?

>>51634424
>says he can't draw women
>draws decent women

>>51634424
Oh my. I mean I'm thankful that you picked my request but lets see. Neck and shoulders to broad, hips to narrow. Also a little bit thinner arms. But it's good as it is if you want to draw a muscular, warrior female - berserker or something like that

>>51633201

They have. There's a fluff piece in the daemon codex about a planet with an extended civil war. It eventually ended, and on that night every celebrating soldier in the world was decapitated by an invisible blade.

>>51634470
too broad* too narrow*

>>51634471
>invisible blade.

Nothing personal, kid

>>51634471

And Nurgle fought against Slaanesh and saved the Eldar god of life and healing.

Though I believe its due more to the fact there immaterial beings of pure thought and energy only able to influence the universe with the champions. Or they truly believe they have no need for a direct avatar as their daemon princess are absurdly powerful in both material and the immaterium.

>>51634457
The last female I drew was worthy of the most horrific musclegirl thread on /d/

>>51634424
Now draw Macha and Taldeer dressed like cheerleaders flirting with ultramarines in an imperial frat house while twiggy zit covered eldar boys stare at them jealously through the window

>>51634539
Yes, and?

>>51633471

We have a drawfag embargo? why?

>>51634568
because /pol/ is here

>>51634568

because former janitor hated drawfags an drive them away from /tg/ to /a/ and other boards

>>51634637
New janitor only gets bothered when you insult his waifu

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>>51634637
I don't get this meme. There is a drawthread like every day. We even had a bad drawthread with really talented anons that made requests like pic related

>>51634659

Damn Arbites with buckets on their heads. No fun allowed in this imperium.

>>51634509

>Khorne was born with a special power. He was stronger than all the gods in the Warp monster academy

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>>51634470
Fixed
Might be doing the khorne one

New rules for Marbo when.

>>51634716

I like your work

>>51634736
New rules for IG and Nids when? Fuck chaos

>>51633426
hot-gluing

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Okay, so, proper Cavalry stats on this proxy. Keep in mind will only be used in HoR Kill Team.

Stats:
>45 points
>Cavalry (12" Movement, not slowed my Difficult Terrain but treat Difficult Terrain as Dangerous Terrain, 3d6 Fallback, Hammer of Wrath, Fleet)
>WS4 BS4 S4 T4 I3 A3 Ld8 Sv 4+
Special Rules:
>Crusader
>Doctrina Imperatives
>Feel no Pain
>Incense Cloud
>Very Bulky
Wargear:
>Taser Lance
>Skitarii Warplate
>Searchlight
>Broad spectrum data-tether
>(+10 points) Phosphor Serpenta

Think it about works for it, or would you suggest anything different? It does lose 1S from the Taser Lance, but gains some additional movement as well.

>>51634753
This right here is why i dont want new Hot SoB

>>51634742
Thank you !

>>51634736

Imagine a new Sly Marbo with a squad of badasses that get the good gear.

>>51634716
Slightly brawny/fit female Khorne warrior would be neat

>>51634773
Topless but no nipples ?

>>51634795
It's up to you Anon. You can even make a pierced nipples or give them santa hats. Feel free to practice here

>>51634838
Santa hat piercings.

>>51634795
Just copy/paste the mark of Khorne as a censor.

>>51634762
that right there is why i want hot new SoB
Celestine is a gift from god

>>51634866
I thought of a skull-bra

>>51634771
>>51634747
I want some tactical espionage action, not just one use democharge. Something like invis inside terrain, sniper weapon with special issue ammunition etc.
>>51634755
How many wounds? Looks overpriced.

>>51634896

just fuck off already

>>51634138
What do you mean technically?
Is inferno the book with their grav tanks and dreads as well?

So I'm thinking about painting a few Imperial Knights in the months to come. Not planning on playing tabletop I just like the look of them.

Anyplace where they might be a bit cheaper than GWs store page?

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Hey anons, do SM 10th companies have vehicles other than Bikes and Land Speeder Storms? Trying to do an all scout list led by Telion, but due to the LSS sprue not actually having a Multi Melta, the only sources of AT currently in my list are two Missile Launchers with my sniper scouts and meltabombs.

If not, what's a good source of Multimeltas that wouldn't look out of place on a Land Speeder Storm's gunner?

>>51634973
Major online retailers like Thewarstore or Frontline gaming will give you 20% off when you order with them by phone.

>>51634898

Probably 2 wounds. That's an oversight.

You think it's overpriced? I was thinking it'd be underpriced. With these stats I basically just took a Dragoon, merged it with a Sicarian Infiltrator and Skitarii Vanguard, and made it Cavalry.

Any idea on how to make it worth its points without making it overpowered or unreasonable?

>>51634671
>pic related
>talented
No, anon.

>>51634898
>I want some tactical espionage action
play kill team

old, 4th edition kill team, not the new wonky one

>>51634958
I mean technically as in Inferno was released for sale at the HH weekender a few days ago, but it is not up for sale on the main website yet.

Inferno is the one with the grav tanks, dreads, and extra stuff. The 40k rules for basic Custodes/Sisters of Silence are up for free on GW's website, I think? They're somewhere. Should be able to find them with google.

>>51634549
seconded

>>51635034
Compared to shit that sometimes is posted on regular drawthread this one is a bad-drawthread masterpiece

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>>51635008
Awesome.

>>51634093
https://imgur.com/a/emdin/

There are the rules for 30k custodes.

Pretty scary shit.

>>51634755
how many wounds per model? how many in a unit?

>>51634671
as i recall there was some backlash against how the artists were getting popular and running their own threads like celebrities instead of being anonymous.

>>51635038

>old, 4th edition kill team, not the new wonky one

I would say that "The Raid" mission in HoR reintroduces those rules for HoR, including stratagems for Attacker and Defender.

Of course, I'd take it one further and include stratagems from Zone Mortalis. Forge World really needs to release a Fire Wasp model.

>"I target that unit of jetbikes, do you jink?"
>"No."
>"Why? I'll kill them."
>"Good, that would give my adjacent bikes, wraithguard, and wraith knight an immediate free shooting phase."
GG Everyone. The Deathdar: Trade Up Mechanic(TM) just broke the basic "kill your enemies to win" mechanic".

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>>51635111
>shitposting at its finest
At least learn the rules before you complain about them.

>>51635111
Except that's not how the rule works. Only one unit can take a Soulburst action when a unit dies. Two with the Detachment bonus, but you give up Obsec for that.

>>51635111
w.e at least the imperium has sexier fan art

>>51635069

>how many wounds per model? how many in a unit?

Two wounds per model. Since it's built with HoR in mind, I wasn't considering grouping them by unit.

But if that's a factor, I'd probably say three minimum squad size, maxing to six. Or perhaps four minimum with eight max. Also +1 Ld and +10 points to minimum squad for the leader model, and maybe some access to the Skitarii armory, but restricted to the same choice Sicarian sergeants have in the Skitarii Codex.

>>51635144

>one unit

I'm pretty certain the rule said any unit within 7"

>>51635145
Don't make me link /aco/'s Eldar.

>>51634062
It bothers me that the only other core is like 170 men. I wish it was just the Shield Platoon version as core instead of the Company version.

>>51635018
2 wounds for 40 will be fine. Remove fnp or give 6+. They should be glass cannons. Just compare them to beast of nurgle or spawn or thunderwolfs to adjust the price.

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>>51635162
It doesn't matter how certain you are. You're wrong.

>>51635163
Please don't.

>>51633472
I go to sleep and everything goes to shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzbI2gfeg34

>>51635111
If you kill your enemies, they win.

>>51634929
what the fuck is wrong with you?

>>51635162
"... pick ONE of those units to make a Soulburst..."

>>51635163
I've seen a bit of the eldar fap pics, never been to /aco/ tho. Nothing beats lewd sisters

>>51635219
I cant tell if that balances the rule out or not

>>51634188
It also kinda found it odd that the rampart detachment and the steel host which although are both in the cadia supplement are not included in the decurion style detachment

>>51635241

It doesn't

>>51635241
It's a strong rule, the definition of balance around these parts tends to depend on what army you main and base "normal' off of.

>>51635238
>tfw someone finally posted the Autarch I've been searching for
You know not the wonders of the Eldar, friend.

>>51635182

Trying to keep it the same price as a Sydonian Dragoon so I don't have to think too hard about equipping it.

Still, 6++ is fine, giving them essentially Sicarian armor. And, yes, it should be a glass cannon, meant to charge in and stab things and then maybe die or charge another thing if they're lucky.

Furious Charge would give it the same power as a Dragoon on charge, but in HoR Campaigns you can buy Furious Charge as Battle Honor so I'm not so concerned about that.

>>51635241
It makes it less utterly broken, but with the detachment bonus you just run your units in groups of three

>Two scat bikes and a wraithknight run upfield
>Kill a scatbike unit, other scatbike and WK get to shoot or charge

etc

>Start collecting Skitarii!
>Contains Tech Priest Dominus
But he can't join a Skitarii army without being in an Allied attachment with 1 Kataphron Troop from Mechanicus.

Am I missing something or is this collection garbage because Skitarii can't have tech-priests aside from Belisarius Cawl.

The time of the elves is fading, the time of the Orks is just beginning.

>>51635294
the start collecting boxes have formations in them that let you use the models in the box.

theres also the grand convocation detachment from fall of cadia

>>51635294
It still saves you a lot of money. And it comes with a formation that allows you to run them together.

Is a cheap squad of Chaos Marines with CC weapons worth running? I want some extra scoring aside from cultists, and I figured I could stick them in a Rhino with a Dirgecaster and try to hunt some weak infantry.

Emp's Children, if it matters.

>>51635294
https://www.dakkadakka.com/s/i/at/2016/1/6/afc189a3de5ef6949be4e51e19039ee6_77477.png__thumb

>>51635283
That one is pretty much the only decent one I've seen for eldar

>>51635321
>>51635306
>>51635313
Ok that's pretty sweet. Thanks.

>>51635320

CC weapon CSM are a false economy. Because, even with those extra CCWs, they'll crumple against dedicated melee units, and against non-melee units, they'll win even without the extra CCWs.

>>51635358
Hmm...that's kind of what I was worried about. Would it be better to give them a flamer and stick with some bolters for horde clearing?

>>51635358
The advantage is in killing other marines. Tac squads that aren't space sharks or wolves can't get extra CCWs, so you can get a little more weight behind your charge or negate the effects of theirs.

>>51633432
Hell yea. now I can put my wraithguard in open topped skimmer with 3+ jink save.

So, is The Beast Arises any good or should I safe myself the time?

>>51635462
it has some cool ideas but is ultimately kind of shit

If you haven't read the Enforcer trilogy, read that instead.

>>51634424
pose is a bit weak.
the left(viewer's left) ought not to be raised by that line of action but is, the stress should shift the weight on it and raise the right hip/leg.
you might want to figure out the arms a bit more, the should seems weird to me.
otherwise solid, your lines are a bit frayed but this is the tablet age, just ink it, scan it, work on it digitally and laugh.
also i have to say you've got a pretty okay grasp of anatomy, i've got friends in animation who would scream I'm pretty sure but you look like you could expand petty well
just remember contrapposto and you can inject some real life into your works
also Chiaroscuro is the shit nigga.
no really it's the fucking shit

>>51635358
But you can win faster with +1 attack, since a 10man squad with CCWs has 22 attacks outside of a charge, and 33 on the charge. 44 if Khornate.

At least, I think I remember correctly. Could be wrong.

>>51633127
This just further illustrates the point I made the other day about Imperials being the true weebs.

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>>51635618
/tg/ is full of weebs

>>51635633
Lies, the Tau are hated here.

>>51635698
tau are for communist weebs

>>51635358
>>51635403
>>51635428

I just put chainswords on my guys because I think they're fucking rad. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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So, i need a custom game for a tournament. 1250 points, basically one player of each race. I need to make tactics (not deathstars) the important factor, and it needs to be memorable. No over the top silly ideas, but fun is encouraged. If this isn't the correct thread, where should I post this?

>>51635762
My nigga, I also build my guys the way I want them to look, and then just use what ever I want during games anyways

>>51635792
>tactics
80% of the armies must be troops, the other 20% is a barebones general and one special unit of the players choice. No 1 unit can cost more than 175 points for maximum fun

>>51635762
I try and go for Wysiwyg as much as I can, though I do bend it sometimes for things like plasma pistols instead of plasma guns.

I do still want a close combat squad anyway to help round out my force. I was just less sure if I should go for the cheap option or try and kit out a squad of chosen for it.

I felt like fearless initiative 5 troops with 2 attacks each would do a good job of it.

>>51635825
B-but A-anon if you dont build WSIWYG then your opponent might get confused on what each unit is.

Has anyone attemped to magnetize greyfax? I'd like to work with her weapon hand but it's so tiny and built to the condemnor Im not thinking a wrist job would work well.

That and my options for combi weapons are limited to giant sized space marine hands and guns...

>>51635881
>Eldar reign supreme once again

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>>51635751
>communist weebs
this guy gets it

>>51635884
>>51635886
>I want to be WYSIWYG
>I don't want to use the cool bits because their rules suck

Sacrificing aesthetics for crunch is the route to WAAC. So what if chainswords or plasma pistols suck? If you like them, then pay the points for them. You probably weren't going to beat the super cheesy armies anyway.

>>51635886
I always explain to them, and unless I'm stoned I remind them at the beginning of their turns. My intention isn't to be an ass hole I just don't wanna spend a lot of money to make sure I have the exact little plastic sword or gun

>>51635792
I'd go for something like >>51635881 suggests, though perhaps a bit less restrictive. 1 HQ, 3 troop minimum, max of 2 more from the other slots.

Then, load up on objectives. Have 5 or so, maybe even toss in a relic for more victory options.

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>>51635908
>Has anyone attemped to magnetize greyfax?
pic related.
if you want to switch to a better combi weapon then why deathwatch ones, those a pretty small and should work but can gayfax actually take combi weaposn other then crossbow

>>51635909
>no dedicated transports allowed
>except for the commanders unit
Not so tough now are you guardians

>>51635969
>farseer does not need gear to be good
>windriders are troops
Guess again faggot.

Newbie questions inbound. I'm starting an iron hands army.
How many tactical squads should I use for 1500 point games? How many marines per squad and which loadout is suggested? Are transports essential or just extra?
Would a captain in old armor (i.e. forgeworld iron father or praetor) suit the Iron Hands lore? I can't find any captain in gw's shop matching the IH looks.

>>51635908
I didn't bother trying it, but the standard space marine combi-melta/plasma/flamer bits probably could fit in the same spot on the bolter as the crossbow bit

But then again, why would you ever want to swap a crossbow out.

>>51635954
Greyfax can't take anything, she's a unique hq. But if you liked her basic look and wanted to use her as a generic inquisitor then magnetizing might be worth the effort

>>51635792
Troops and Fast Attack only.

Could someone be a dear and post a high res version of the emprah confronting Horus? The one with the fallen primarch at their feet.

>>51635980
>taking wind riders in a game that clearly promotes guardian use
There's just no point with you WAAC fags

>>51635932
I'd happily take plasma guns instead if there were enough in the box.

If I don't like the look of something, I'll do a conversion that gets across both what weapon I want on the model and what it has.

>>51636028
>no mentioning daddy by his name
You will give Sanguinius the respect he deserves he died for your sins you know.

>>51636053
Honestly I jus didn't want to spell it wrong... Pls to forgiveness

>>51635000
I'm pretty sure I used the multi melta from the assault bike, the rail is almost identical
You might even be able to mock up a scout on the bike part if you don't want/need assault bikes

>>51636032
Just add in the restriction that any troops used must be ones where there entry lists a minimum size of at least 4 models.

That cuts out any cheesy troops that are only 1 or 3 models or shifting around certain other models into troops. Any troops that go under that count against the limit of other special units.

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>>51636028
sure

>>51636135
I knew Horus was actually an Ogryn

>>51635954
To field her sexy ass as an ordo xenos inquisitor. Since the crossbow is hereticus only.
>>51635990
Tried it, unfortunately the combi bits for marine guns are significantly larger than her smaller womanly patterned bolter. If she was sold individually I'd honestly just make a second one, but 80 bucks is too steep.

>>51635984
honestly it depends on how you want to field your army.
and i think you should try and detail that now before reading further because i might pepper you expectations, play what YOU want over what is viable man, then conceed to meta..


Okay then
marines die fucking fast now adays and they are are unspecialized. either pay the troop tax and put them in rhinos or go, 2x5 man and bench warm. but even then you'd want scouts over it.
in 1500 back in 5e mind you I'd roll up with 2 in my salamanders, kill team one, take the flamer and the sergeant and 3 nuptees and shove them in with a chap and a razor back and leave the other 5 men in that squad to babysit their plasma-cannon, don't think you can do that anymore
the other squad was stock, in rhino.
Nowaday kids today get the fucking formations, you can get free drop pod/razor backs so you can take a melta and multimelta and laugh with the salamanders.
so if you want to follow the decurion find the cheapest route forward but since you are iron hands you should be focusing more on army anyway with that IWND right?
>FW armour
that will by fine by any sane degree, hell I use my magos as a dominus in 40k and skit as adsecularii.
only turbo austists would be worse.
>>51636135
that art has not aged well

>>51636135
I totally meant the new one and I think you knew that.

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>>51636135
What the fuck

>>51636172
>that art has not aged well
I honestly prefer it still. You can tell the Emperor is about to ram that giant sword into downs-horus' face.

>>51633681
Confirmation of vects foresight and continued existence as ruler of the Drukhari!

>>51636219
I agree. While the faces are bizarre, it's framed much better. It feels like a dramatic ascent of stairs, a snapshot of their confrontation.

The newer one feels like some awkwardly posed mural where the Emperor is shuffling up a curb because the artist didn't want him to seem short compared to Horus or something.

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>>51636012
Magging here would imply you've got another arm for her and adding a new one would look off. I'd just strip the bolter.
you could just lift the crossbow off of it, replace it with a deathwatch part and laugh, if you fuck off, take it off at the wrist and if you fuck that up, you are back to new arm which is where you started with magnetization. unless you wanted to field her as greyfax and not greyfax. fair enough and I'll tell you that you are going to need a small strong one and a small strong drill. there are some rare earths that should work, i mostly use the bigger ones on my russes and i don't bother with magging characters because that's a recipe for PAIN BROTHER


>>51636171
>To field her sexy ass as an ordo xenos inquisitor. Since the crossbow is hereticus only.
you could just strip the bolt gun and make it a doodad and strap a combi-bolter on her back or even better if she's a radical chain up a genestealer familiar to carry her it for her, put here up on a 32 scale base, she's small enough that it would fit

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>>51636158
you could say going against the emperor was a real bone 'eaded move

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>>51633681

I feel like this could use an edit in a similar vein to this.

Will go to sleep
Will probably deliver tomorrow (French time)

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>>51636304
>jojo carlos.png

>>51636347
eh?

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Been using this as my grab a list and go for a while now.
Friends in my group run super heavy's pretty commonly, kind of a semi try hard atmosphere.
DO you guy think it would be ok to bring to a couple game store Ive never been to or should i tone it down?

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Hello all. I just made this here image of Guilliman dabbing. Just thought I'd leave it here.

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>>51636366
>dabbing

>>51636365
Footslogging Cents aren't that great. Many armies can just walk around your 30" threat range or kill you.

Unless you deploy on the long table edges, in which case you're gonna buttfuck big things.

Probably okay though.

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>have wraithknight sit in back
>have farseer use guide on him
>have other farseer use Word of the Phoenix to make it shoot 2wice

>4 TL D's which will generate up to 8 more starbursts

So did we find out yet what that door spoiler was from?

>>51636402
no

>>51636401
Hmm if it makes them use a soulburst action does that mean it cant do it again during that turn? i would assume no

>>51636135
wasn't this from a time the final fight was in a bunker instead of the VS?

>>51636402
Might be related to the other weird blue & brass machine spoilers that got posted earlier

>>51636435
units can't soulburst more than once per turn. a single unit can make any number of units soulburst a turn.

>>51636401
If it's in the back how is it going to trigger soulburst?

>>51636445
I kind of have a nagging feeling that that part might be from some Skitarii/AdMech vehicle weapon, which would check out with the door.

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>>51636389
they don't foot slog, they port around with drago and both the libs.
Makes for 30 grav shots anywhere on the board.

>>51636466
By killing four enemy units with the D

>>51636172
Thanks for your suggestions. It seems we have similar views since I was opting for keeping troops to a minimum and focusing on models I like in terms of aesthetics/lore/gameplay.
In particular, I was looking to play 2-3 dreadnoughts and a Terminator squad. Also I'm not really into librarians and chaplains so I was just going for a chapter master, maybe a techmarine if I opt for a lot of vehicles.
So if I keep troops to a minimum this would start to look like an elite - small army in terms of wounds and I'm afraid shooty armies like Tau would simply wipe out everything in one shooting phase.

I was looking at formations and they kinda look like generic all-around maniples or "we need to sell these really badly"-GW sales tactics (like the thing with 5 librarians or 3 artillery vehicles).
On the other (iron) hand, I totally hate how centurions and SM flyers look so I'm not even bothering in checking them out for formations. Fortunately they are typically not required.

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>>51636443
no, this is from when they first made it in the vengeful spirit

you can even see the space fleet (proto-bfg) ships fighting in the background

>>51636466
assumedly, the units benefiting from soulburst will be nearby the units the wraith knight kills

>>51636282
Hm. Ill have to take a look again at where her fingers meet the bolt gun to see if I can carefully remove it without damaging it, but I'm guessing the hand will just be too small to accomodate a magnet.

The idea of a goon to carry wargear is fun though. I might actually end up doing that. I just really would like the option of using her as an ordo xenos with a combi plasma and plasma scion command squad with a med pack guy.

>>51636496
I really hope its a skitarii transport, not just because Vanguards need that shit, but because I've found all Mechanicum/us designs so far to be great, and I crave more.

>>51636497
That's quite a bit cheesier then.

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Hey anons, are Hellfire Rounds worth it for Scout Heavy Bolters? They're S1 AP- Heavy 1 Blast Poisoned 2+

Do you guys get upset when someone uses models that are casted at home because they're not the "real thing"? I think an anon asked this before but I'm a little afraid of running into a person like this if I go play at my LGS

>>51636578
it's better than a frag rocket, but honestly not that great

>>51636504
>>51636524
Seems like it'd only really benefit warp spiders and they already don't have much trouble popping transports on their own.

What happens when a unit affected by Soul Blaze goes back to reserves?
Does it still burn? Can it die while in reserves?
Asking for a friend.

>>51636628
Dang, I'm trying to write up a Scout list that has only scouts and scout units in it. It's very hard to do. I've already maxed out my 6 troop slots at 60 bodies of scouts and it doesn't even reach 1000 points without upgrades. I just need 20 more points and I'll have 1,000 points totalled.

>>51636643
It keeps burning, but you don't make any rolls until after it comes back on the board.

>>51636641
What?

>Move Scatbikes forward near transports
>Blast transports with D-Cannons to force the squads out
>Soulburst with the jetbikes, shoot the now exposed unit
>Jet jump away laughing maniacally.

>>51636671
No scout bikes? Scout bikes are solid.

>>51636693
Bikes can't JSJ if they turboboost.