just the usual
>warhammer
>not the patrician's weapon
>>51627477
What the fuck am I looking at?
>>51627491
part of a jousting armor, it's a complex mechanic so that the target "shield" (that big thing that it's at the left part of the jousters) can be propelled away if it hit strong enough.
Plus a rest for the lance, among other things.
>>51627509
Did cavalry lances ever have those pronged hammer like tips the way tournament ones did? I imagine getting plowed with one of those would be pretty devastating.
>>51627556
no idea, maybe. I'm not very informed about cavalry warfare
>>51627556
They are designed to spread the impact out more than a single sharp lance point. And probably to help you actually connect enough to knock a guy off his horse. Obviously it will still kill the hell out of anybody not wearing full armour.
>>51627618
That's hilarious, more weapons need a picture of someone wielding the weapon on it.
>>51627638
I totally agree, although sadly there are a lot of people who are simply just no fun
Why does /his/ suck so much?
>>51628127
do you want a short answer or a long answer?
>>51628127
>Why does /his/ suck so much?
/pol/ overflow
THE MOST VERSATILE WEAPON EVER INVENTED
>>51627474
I motherfucking love combination weapons so much.
>>51628316
Here's a little mini-dump for you then.
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>>51628484
This thing is my favourite weapon ever.
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>>51628542
Finito!
>>51628316
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>>51628555
I like to think there was like, one guy in history that was obsessed with trying to put guns in everything.
>>51628555
Thanks bro, all these pics are a gold mine.
>>51628671
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>>51628498
Maces are probably the sexiest weapons
>>51627410
>Arms and armour
>Post two guys with a shield, one them naked
Anon...
>>51628921
Problem?
>>51628921
>Not recognizing fine Celtic battle armor
>>51628921
anon, helmet is armour. And they have arms too.
But here, have this pole arm for your troubles
>>51628921
What's the problem, can't stand the sight of a strong Celtic warrior?
>>51629090
>celtic
>not a single one wear either chainmail or gallic helmet
>>51629145
>son of zeus
>that dyel
>>51629145
>that strategic paw
>>51629246
What dicks. Just behead him
You'll notice in the Norman pictures I posted the knights have stirrups. Not enough credit is given to this invention. Stirrups changed the cavalry game, and made so that heavy cavalry could full tilt charge whoever they wanted instead of being primarily a harassing unit
>>51629496
that would be too fast
>>51627477
What the shot is this?!
Probably my favorite A&A thread pic of all time. The sheer variety and coolness of the armor really speaks to me. Also,
>Constantinople stronk
>>51629623
It's the inner part of a mechanical, spring-loaded jousting breastplate. IIRC it would have an outer plate affixed on top which, when struck with a suitable amount of force, is ejected to provide a good way of scoring as well as a proper spectacle for the spectators.
Made by Lorenz Helmschmid of Augsburg for Emperor Maximilian, ca 1495.
Is modern stuff allowed?
>>51629702
Timely...
>>51629708
Sure, I'd say we're here for arms and armour, not some arbitrary (often poorly defined and most likely gravely misunderstood) time period. So let's make of it hat we want, with considerable weight given to the opinion of whoever bothers to post pics.
>>51629708
Is that a fucking pepsi
>>51629785
Invading third world shit holes gets you thirsty
>>51627638
>>51627713
It's really not what's depicted. That's probably a Venetian cane war/bridge war shield and the guy's holding it completely wrong.
>>51629812
Lemme just preface this by saying war is awful. Now, I do think it was a shame there were never any large-scale non nuclear conflicts in the early 80's. Because every military's uniform and armor designs were fucking on point
>>51629845
80s uniforms had some top tier aesthetics
>>51629562
That shit's so outdated it doesn't even stink any longer.
High saddles make you able to charge, not stirrups. Those mainly make you a helluva lot more mobile as a military unit as they allow you to ride longer and harder and still have enough juice to fight.
Which is probably why they were invented by people who spent all day every day in the saddle, but who aren't too famous for their couched lance charges.
>>51629562
Reminder that heavy frankish knights got btfo by middling light cavalry wherever they met, be it Spain, Brittany or the Magyar invasions.
>>51629708
There is just something nice about the military aesthetic of that era.
>>51627443
Is that some kind of sword Messer for those who isn't allowed to carry normal swords?
>>51629881
I feel this should be a show about four international commandos and their eternally frustrated CO.
>>51630062
>Is that some kind of sword Messer
it's a messer
>for those who isn't allowed to carry normal swords?
And who might that be anon? Because very few people were not allowed to carry swords and even that changed from city to city from year to year.
Plus why would you think they would be allowed to carry a messer then?
>>51630004
>heavy cavalry cannot easily deal with light cavalry
Any other amazing insights for us?
Regarding near-modern stuff, I do have this bunch of photos I found somewhere, in turn seemingly compiled form near and far, from the Soviet-Afghan war. Glorified thumbnails usually, but perhaps of interest regardless: https://www.mediafire.com/?gg6agdh4z22zxz3
>>51630062
If you're not allowed to carry a sword you don't have the money and influence to make the court agree to hair splitting about what's a knife and what's a sword. They'll just apply thumbscrews (literally) or such until you agree that you had a sword when you shouldn't.
The knife maker's guild on the other hand may be able to pull it off to dodge a cutlers guild monopoly, and such a case is unlikely to involve the more draconian measures of a criminal one.
>>51629983
Somebody please tell me what this style of helmet is called.
>>51630218
SCA-legal if I remember correctly
>>51630218
Late 20th-early 21st century fantasy helmet.
>>51630192
Thank you, grainy yet colored 80's military photos are my shit. And Soviet soldiers in Afghanistan did not give a shit
>>51630682
Oh Osprey, I am past caring about all the historical inaccuracies in your drawings but why does figure 2 have a carpentry axe?
Does your Basileus need a new chair such as only a Varangian can craft?
>>51630753
Wait Osprey is historically inaccurate? Pleasing be fucking with me anons, that shit was my childhood
>>51631182
anon. I hate to say this but you were fucked by Osprey, big time. If it was your childhood then it was also that creepy uncle that promised cake but it was full of sleeping pills and then fucked you in the ass while you were unconscious. You will probably not remember it but know that's something isn't right
>>51627618
>>51631182
I hate to break it to you anon, but Osprey is most kindly described as "wildly varied" in quality.
There is some real good stuff in there, but there are also honest mistakes, speculation presented as fact, distorted evidence and outright fabrications on occasion. The plates are particularly bad and should never be taken at face value.
The problem is that there is just enough detail to make it look legit, especially to children.
>>51631331
Ayy lmao
>>51628637
>flamberg rapier
For what purpose?
>>51632002
for pimping obviously
>>51632994
>>51633016
Does anyone have pic of armor with skirts?
>>51633059
>>51633059
**
I wonder how well bronze served as armour.
>>51633071
Only the prettiest knights need apply for tonlets.
>>51633033
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>>51631434
What's more accurate, Osprey's pictures or armour in the museums?
>>51633131
>>51633202
I love this
>>51633315
Which pictures and which armours? Once in a blue moon Osprey doesn't hire fantasy artists and there are some horrific Frankenstein-armours in museums.
That said, the answer is never Osprey. At least most of the armours in museums have some original pieces underneath all the restoration work.
Imagine having something like this when it took 2 minutes to reload a gun. You could be a fucking terminator.
>>51633816
>when it took 2 minutes
so never? 30 seconds to a minute was typical for matchlocks and those things were slow as far as black powder guns go.
>>51628921
>Not facing the enemies of your tribe with your stoic battle boner
Get a load of this Roman.
>>51633888
Can you provide some reference for that? I've only seen 1-2 minutes mentioned.
>>51633967
Huh?
I'll dig up sources, but the Nassau drill aimed for 2-3 shots a minute. The standard drill in the 18th century was 4, the Prussian drill is broadly known to have been 5 but rarely sustainable for more than 10 minutes.
Most of my references are in french and probably not online though.
>>51634008
Well, that's 18th century, probably with paper cartriges and stuff. This is 16th century, when drills were only beginning to be a thing. But anyway, even 30 seconds is a lot compared to this. And these things could be rifled, and it would still take a couple of seconds to reload them.
>>51633071
>>51634097
also costs an arm and a leg (not necessarily yours) and two villages.