What's /tg/'s thoughts on ninja?

>>51627296
It depends. Are we talking one ninja or an army of them?

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Master Arab Assassin" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Ninjas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.

I should know what I'm talking about. I myself hired a genuine ninja in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about 20,000 dinars) and have been practicing with him for almost 2 years now. He can even cut slabs of solid steel with his shuriken.

Japanese ninjas spend years practicing a single kick and repeat it up to a million times to become the finest martial artists known to mankind.

Ninjas are thrice as stealthy as Middle Easter hashashin and thrice as deadly for that matter too. Anyone a hashashin can assassinate, a ninja can assassinate twice. I'm pretty sure a ninja could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple knifehand strike.

>>51627296
the idea of a group of peasants learning espionage and assassination as a way of exerting influence in a feudal society is a pretty interesting one and one I'm surprised you don't see more in fantasy

>>51627296
Autism fuel that doesn't belong in the players' hands

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I prefer pirates personally.

>>51628343
Shit taste.

I'm okay with ninjas but what is this stagehand doing here?

>>51627296

Kunoichi a shit

>>51628441
what you don't want to be seduced and pumped for information by a highly athletic young women disguised as a servant?

you have shit taste my good man

>>51628343
Best taste.

>>51627296
The polite term is "people of subterfuge"

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>>51628441
delet this!

ninja girls a best

>>51628638
But we already have a name for those!

They're called the french, get it right

>>51629071
Holy fuck watch your language

>>51627296
Watermarks, truly the most fiendish of methods for a ninja to hide behind

>>51629071
>t. le rosbif eternel

>>51627726
Ok I chuckled.

There is no such thing as Ninja because no one would do something so heinous and dishonorable as stab someone in the back without offering them a proper fight or challenge.

>>51629574
I guess thieves don't exist either.

>>51629439
You think it is the ninja who is hiding behind them, but little do you realize it is you who is trapped behind them from him.

They're fine as long as they don't spit fire or win direct confrontations. Knives in the night and spies are the only way to go.

>>51627296
Prefer rogues.

>>51627296
Ninja Master Gordon is my hero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n0hTr_ITdP0

>>51628407
Underrated post.

>>51627296

Defeats vikings, but dies to pirates.

>>51628407
This, best post

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>>51628343
>>51627296
But who would win?

>>51630989
c >>51630839

There are few good hiding place on a coastline that can withstand a combination of explosive shells and grapeshot, which puts the ninja at a substantial disadvantage versus pirates.

>>51630989
Depends how many there are - the scaling on pirates and ninja are weird - unless it's at a temple or dojo or something, once you go past about 10 ninja they just become mooks and a liability, where pirates scale pretty much linearly

>>51631086
100 ninjas will always beat 100 pirates in battle. In fact, 100 ninjas will always beat 200 pirates, but will never beat 300 pirates.

>>51630989
>including space pirates
Ninja don't stand a chance.

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>>51630599
Richard Harrison is the best ninja.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4enmeIdMdg

>>51627296
Depends on whether we're talking about ninjas or Naruto-esque "ninjas."
The former is a bit overdone, but I don't mind them generally, while the latter is absolutely insufferable.

>>51631086
>unless it's at a temple or dojo or something, once you go past about 10 ninja they just become mooks
I'd go one step further.
If it's at a temple or dojo IF the ninja are defending then they're pretty much all guaranteed to be mooks. But yeah, ninjas reliability is certainly inversely proportionate to their numbers.

>>51631086
Also consider realistic ninjas were mostly about subterfuge. Unless the pirate attack is completely random and sudden, chances are there's gonna be a few ninjas aboard the pirate ship(s), and suddenly bashing the captain's head in with a cannonball lying around is going to throw the ship into confusion.

>>51627296
Oh my a ninja thread.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBMZkk1OCyw

Yes, this is an actual movie. It's called Ninja 3 Domination

>>51632160

Why would killing the captain cause confusion? It just means the first mate is acting captain until the crew holds an election.
It's true it might shatter their morale, but at the same time it also might make 'em furious.

>>51631534
I'd say assume a black morphsuited nip rather than the 'write about a wizard and call them a ninja' shit. Or possibly Ninja Gaiden's 'usually uses katanas but occasionally pulls out a scroll and starts chucking fireballs' shtick.

>>51627296
invincible and certainly better than pirates

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>>51632258

>invincible and certainly better than pirates

>invincible

Lemme guess, you just slice the incoming cannonballs in half with your masterwork katana, and duck in between the shrapnel from the explosion? And of course regular bullets just bounce off your massive weeaboo complex.

>>51632258

Only if it's a single ninja. As soon as a few more show up they start dropping like flies.

>>51632421

True. Though you can kill a lone ninja, I've seen it happen in movies. It seems to depend a lot on who he is and what his goals are. If he wants to steal a mystical artifact you'll have to tangle with him a few times, but he'll go down eventually. If he wants vengeance, though, look out.
Basically if you slaughter a clan of ninjas, you need to be really sure you don't miss any. If you miss one because he's hiding or out fetching water or something, he'll swear vengeance against you, and at that point he becomes functionally invincible, and you're doomed.

>>51632632
In a one-on-one situation the only sure way to kill a ninja is with another ninja. Going the Ninja v Ninja route dispenses with all the normal rigamaroll to kill a ninja.

>>51630989
Why is pirates vs ninjas a thing, anyway?

>>51632724
It's one of those "lolsorandom" things from the earliest days of the internet.

>>51632741
Yeah, back when 4chan was SERIOUS FUCKING BUSINESS instead of trying to be serious all the time. Nowadays nobody can take a joke, least of all here on /tg/.

>>51632724

Because nerds enjoy arguing silly hypotheticals. Pirates v Ninjas v Knights and/or Vikings was a popular one.

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If nothing else, I know that ninjas shall perish.

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>>51632741

Actually the idea seems to predate even the birth of the web. This game is from Atari back in 1989, and features a whole level vs ninjas.

>>51631194
Nah, 100 ninjas is too many.

>>51632769
Yeah, I miss it honestly. People didn't have a stick up their ass all the damn time.

>have argument with DM about whether strength or dexterity is better
>DM is huge dexfag
>party is camping outside
>middle of the night have to roll spot check
>fail
>hear some bustling in the bushes
>go to investigate
>nothing there
>suddenly a robed figure drops down behind me
>whispers in my ear
>''dex > strength''

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Can you beat my best score?

http://www.foddy.net/Ninjas.html

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>>51631404
Man, don't get me fucking started on Space Pirates
This is a goddamn space pirate ship that singlehandedly crippled the navy of a major galactic power before devastating the planet proper.

>>51632991
This is assuming the pirates are generic pirates with no names or faces. If even a minor captain with a name shows up, then Pirates win no matter what. However, if the number of ninjas is at or below 10, the ninjas win unless there's countless hordes of pirates led by a single warlord.

Of course, if you manage to achieve the perfect balance between the two, you achieve the Pirate/Ninja Paradox. An event that fundamentally breaks the universe until it is resolved.

>>51633083
That show was stupid in all the right ways.

>>51627296
They taste better after you peel off the clothes and shurikens.

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>>51633187
Oni get out

>>51632421
Dammit, I need to read through Dr. McNinja again.

>>51630989
Well, instead of it happening in some random backwater shoreline that overwhelmingly favours seafaring ships, we set it in a port town. In terms of justification, maybe this is a regular plunder stop for the pirates and the town decided to hire some muscle. Or maybe this is town is oppressed by it's ninja landlords and the pirates caught wind of it.

Now we ask what pirates and ninjas we're talking about. Is the straw hat crew getting all up in the hidden leaf? Are these just the people of these professions? The most phenomenal of the associated myths?

Since I like this stuff I'll tell you what I think happens to otherwise normal people. There's a lot of little scuffles basically everywhere, and because it comes to light the ninja are pretending to be townsfolk, there's heavy civilian casualties. The pirates sail off the victor, due to simply having access to guns. Their crew now has an unknown amount of ninjas in it though, which probably winds up with them all sinking out at sea.

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>>51632405
you see, you only thought what you were firing canonballs at were ninjas. when in fact, it was your own ship.

problem, blackbeard?

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What he said

>>51627296
If you know it was ninja, your GM did something wrong

>>51627296
Literally the perfect mook. Masked to dehumanize them, a wide variety of tricks they can utilize, uniformed so you can tell whose side they're on, sneaky enough that you can justify putting them just about anywhere, and unlike robots that pop like red paintballs if you hit them hard enough showering everyone around you in high pressure gore.

A god damn beautiful mook.

>>51638438
>uniformed so you can tell whose side they're on
The fuck?

>>51627296
I always ask the question of whether or net they fit into a given setting/story.

They are okay though. I prefer mine a little more like bandits who are idolized by the populace due to them being the only people ballsy enough to stick it to the nobles but in reality being little more than some thugs who prefer wealthier targets.

>>51640319
How that even makes them ninjas anymore? Serious and sincere question

>>51633862
Sauce

>>51630989
Whoever wins, we win.

>>51631404
But what about...space ninja?

>>51631085
But how badly disadvantaged are the pirates if they're forced to venture inland?

>>51630989
Both will fall to my ultimate mook: The Draco-Cyborg-Vampire-Pirate-Ninja-Spartan-Viking With mint

>>51632691
But you gotta make sure they completely do not know one another. If they are friends, they team up. If they are sworn enemies, there's the 'Power of Friendship' random factor. And you know what's worse than a lone ninja? A back-to-back duo of ninjas.

Finally, even if your hired ninja and your enemy ninja do not know each other, be honest with your hired one, lest he/she team up with your target because 'muh betrayal demands payment'.

Old and busted

Secret Agents where the new game at

>>51633862
Why Patchouli is dressed like Reimu?

>>51627296
Ninja and spy/assassin enemies in general can be tricky in my opinion.

Nothing can frustrate players more than an invisible, seemingly all-knowing opponent who can pull hit and runs without issue.

But players playing as a ninja is something different.

I also tend to like my ninja fairly grounded.

Any magical shit is going to be the boarderline stuff like where they really do seem to vanish into darkness and/or seemingly teleport (but only relatively short distances and if a person ends up distracted). And ultimately their best skill is dressing up as someone of no consequence and discreetly poisoning you.

>>51631086
>>51631194
What you're thinking of is the Inverse Ninja Law or the Law of Conservation of Ninjutsu: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ConservationOfNinjutsu

You really only want one ninja. If you just have one, all the available ninjutsu will be concentrated in that one ninja, and he'll be super powerful. Dividing up the ninjutsu over 100 ninjas makes them too weak individually.

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To all the contrarian faggots

In Japanese folklore loads of supernatural abilities were attributed to Shinobi.

Many legends include flight, invisibility, shapeshifting, the ability to "split" into multiple bodies, the summoning of animals, and control over the five classical elements.

Fuck outta here with your westernized bullshit

>HURR anyone who ever does magic must fit the archetype of a european wizard

>>51644036
For me it's less that "magical can only be done by wizards" and it's more because I originally grew up on Naruto and quickly became bored of the super-power wizard ninja.

I wanted intrigue, suspense, and mystery. I wanted 'magical' elements to be left vague and uncertain as to whether they were magic or clever cons.

>>51643934
But secret agents are ninja though. Just wearing tuxedos instead of kabuki stage-hand outfits.

>>51630989
Is that I-Am-Ninja in the corner? That's probably by and far the most obscure reference in the whole pic.

>>51644067
So run a game where it's ambiguous

Sheesh

If people can happily play a game set in Dark Ages Britain without magic swords, dragons, and wizards then you can play realistic ninjas no problem

All I've got to say on the matter is stabbing drunken nobles in their sleep and carrying forbidden love letters between geisha and korean ambassadors is boring

>>51627296
I'm fine as long as they are spies scouts saboteurs and occasional assassins and wear civilian clothes rather than cheesy martial artists in black pajamas.

>>51630989
What the fuck is Johnny doing there, he's a cowboy samurai.

>>51644865
He's also a pirate, you know.

>>51643052
To be honest by most definitions it doesn't. I just kinda like bandits whose robbing of the rich gets misinterpreted by the lower classes as some kind of great act when to the bandit it is just another day of work.

Not to say I don't like the peasant by day stealthy killer with strange tools by night ninja. They just are not my favorite.

As far as magic ninjas go I'm not too enthusiastic about the concept since them just being normal people who trained like hell and wish to overthrow oppressive nobles seems cooler to me.

>>51627296
I like the idea that every culture has ninjas but the Japanese ones are the least proficient and that's why we are only sure that THEY exist.

>>51627296
Plural: Excellent cannon fodder.
Singular: Excellent waifu material.

>>51627296
When you strip away the mysticism and weeb shit, pretty damn cool.

>>51645541
Japanese things are weeb shit

Holy fuck you're a genius

>>51631194
You don't understand how powerlevel math works

1000 ninjas will lose to 100 pirates.
But 10 ninjas will defeat the 100 pirates.

>tfw people will never recognize that assassins creed and dishonored protagonists are basically reskinned ninjas
>tfw western/mid-east ninjitsu will not become a pop culture thing in the near future

>>51627296

In a high fantasy setting they're cool. Superhuman magic spy assassins are neat however they are flavored, so long as you aren't especially stupid about it.

In more realistic settings they (and most spy types) are awfully boring.

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>>51627296
Weeb Shit, not allowed in my games

Go be Naruto elsewhere

>>51627726
>spend years practicing a single kick and repeat it up to a million times
Wouldn't that just throw out his knee after a while and give him a really shitty limp?

>>51628343
How does one do Pirates in a game without them turning into ocean themed rogues/thieves?

>>51647649
>How does one do Soldiers in a game without turning them into army themed fighters

>>51631534
>>51632251
I always considered Naruto ninjas to be along the same lines of how modern writers invent just any damn thing they want and call it a vampire. Regardless of it ever being at all like any vampire in media history.

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>>51627296
>If played as an assassin
Cool.
>If played as a kung fu assassin
Cool.
>If played as a kung fu assassin with some minor magic powers
Cool.
>If played as a kung fu assassin with major magic powers
No.
>If not played as an assassin at all
Fuck off.

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>>51644036
>80's manga counts as ancient mythical texts guys!!

>>51647782
>how does one do autism in a game without turning it into math themed sanity loss

>>51647132
and thank god they won't, otherwise people like >>51647614 would get triggered and blanket ban them.

>>51647720
You can't even say that, really, anon.
Naruto covered every pop culture "ninja magic/ninpo" ability you could possibly find, and had less to do with the black pajama theater men and more to do with the classic mountain men mercenaries of the early Sengoku.

>>51647649

You could play up the mythical fantasy pirate end of things, for one. Like a secret brotherhood that hides in the cracks between man's world of law and the chaotic world of the sea.

For another you could go more the rebel anarchist route, as there's a significant strain of robin hood "rob the robber barons" in Caribbean piracy. Maybe throw in the legend of Libertatia, a free pirate colony in Africa which may or may not have existed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertatia

(As a pirate nerd, I have to say this article is sloppy and poorly written, but gets the basic idea across)

a ninja's best skill was his ability to over exaggerate his skill to strike fear into the hearts of those that would cross him

>>51648518

That and not existing. It's easy to be unbeatable and undetectable if you're not actually there.

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>>51647720
KYS

Naruto fits just about every belief the average nip had about ninjas
>>51647798
>I know literally nothing about Japanese folklore, nor have I bothered reading anything about it
>The post

I bet you think youkai means demon, moron

>>51649503

>implying the ninja myth predates the modern era

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>>51644013
>Current Year
>Posting TV Tropes
>Using it as a reference to just about anything

>>51651079
*Early Modern

Late medieval if you want to stretch

Either way, folklore is folklore you cuck

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>>51628407

>>51644138
It's 'the ninja' from Ask-a-Ninja, pleb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR68W56DCBU

>>51630599
>majestic white ninja empire
>bright NIN JA headbands
>Sheevspinning
>the purple ninjas
>'The Ninja Commandment'
>Tony the ninja

it's too perfect

>>51654987
Post a better episode nerd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDiHntK3Kp8
We 2006 now

>>51628638
>mfw all they did was put "sneaky person" in the passive voice

>>51645637
Japanese things are not weeb shit, but they can be
Case in point: GATE is literally a weeaboo anime, sucking japan's dick at any cost

>>51655070
It even has a song too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpMC2_SCY7w

>>51629574
Sadly, says the dead man, but hey, good news; most executions are from the front as not many like to sleep face-down

>>51647774
But real Ninjas weren't primarily assassins. They were spies.

>>51644036
>In Japanese folklore loads of supernatural abilities were attributed to Shinobi.
Haven't seen many "magical" martials pulled from other cultures like Viking berserkers, Arabian assassins or Ukrainian/Russian cossacs despite their folklore also attributing magical abilities to them. It seems like only weebs could get away with this shit.

>>51656689
>viking berserkers
Nigga literally the entire barbarian class

>>51656619
We are talking about a band of murderhobos, spying is killing

>>51657596
I hate having to hold your hand, but >>51656689 anon, thats true, the barbarians are modern saga berserkers with powers, the paladins holy warriors with powers, the druids holy celts with powers, the monk is a chinese kung fu master with powers, on ad&d second edition and later we even have drunk style monks, greater rage barbarians, miracle clerics, SMITE EVIL paladins, speed fencer, romantic swashbuckler and more

>>51644865
Chipp is best ninja, because I can not find him on that image.

>>51656689
Assassin was a class from 1e on.

Also I would absolutely love an archetype based on cossacks and hussars (or even just proper cavalrymen) that wasn't bogged down by Gygax's incredibly retarded moral codes.

>>51656689
>Berserkers
Nothing particularly magical about them in the sagas aside from retard strength and pain tolerance
>Assasins
Literally a drunk teenager sent on a suicide mission with a knife

No folklore to speak of
>Cossacks
First time I'm hearing of this

Get cucked

>>51658883
>First time I'm hearing of this
Have you considered the possibility that your view of the world is shaped by your lack of general culture.

>>51658913
He says "get cucked". What did you expect?

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>>51658883
>That man says he doesn't know the cossacks
>HARIA, THATS WHAT HIS KING SAID YESTERDAY WHEN WE RANSACKED HIS ENTIRE COUNTRY IN ONE NIGHT

>>51654987
>talking about the same person...

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>>51659384
You see that old woman over there? thats sholokhova she is more manly than your dad ever was, she once killed five russian Leib with a kitchen knife and a hard cheese. SHE IS A TRUE ZAPOROZHIAN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4USCdWD7Ipc

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>>51659433
On the glory days this one was famous for eating weakling balls for breakfeast, literally.

You know what that means?
>You are wrost than woman

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>>51659468
This great man learned with the greeks how to cut balls off without killing the victim, but, unlike the greeks he wanted no slaves, isntead he liked to force feed prisioners with their own balls

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>>51659487
This one freed the cossacks after literally kicking a host of WINGED Hussars to DEATH, all of that while BAREFOOT and UNARMED. Cossacks are the best CO

>>51632910
Isn't that more related to everyone including ninja stuff everywhere at the time?

>>51630989
>bothered drawing Kurenai with ,assive cleavage
10/10

>>51632724
Because Pirates hate ninjas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QWL5wM73V0

>>51658883
>Nothing particularly magical about them in the sagas
Did you read them?
>>51658883
>Literally a drunk teenager sent on a suicide mission with a knife
IRL yes, but we're speaking about folklore about them.
>>51658883
>First time I'm hearing of this
Google "harakternik"

>can walk on water
Was Jesus a ninja?

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>>51627296
Mark of the Ninja ninjas are best ninjas.

Glad to see some Godfrey Ho Ninja Empire fans here.

Also, to the anon who asked what would happen if there was a battle between ninja and pirates on a coastline, specifically the lack of hiding options for the ninja: the opening to Ninja in the Dragon's Den answer this perfectly. So listen to me, children, as I tell you of the legend of the ninja:

>Silent night, along the coast no sound is heard
>Then a man takes flight, moves through the night without a word
>As though he wasn't there, and you can't be sure that it wasn't air
>That had lightly blown your hair
>(No you can't be sure he's there)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL8_fmwnMIo

>>51627296
>What's /tg/'s thoughts on ninja?
They've got the real ultimate power

Seriously though, the best RPG ninja I can remember are those generated by the old (and I mean Jurassic old) Bushido RPG. These ninja weren't Assassin's Creed style superkillers, but actually did what they were supposed to do: hide in plain sight (not by magic, but by acting as someone else), good with poisons and tricks that seemed supernatural, sneaky killing (when necessary) and most importantly, they were feared.

First, every ninja had a special talent of masquerading as someone: a blind masseur like Zatoichi, travelling entertainer, Buddhist monk (who could keep up with real monks on the theological discussion front, IIRC), ronin, or something like that. They all learnt to make and use poisons of different types, smoke "vanishing" bombs, etc. that made the average peasant believe ninja were supernatural. The killing bit's self-explanatory, and you got not only the ninjato (with the appropriate warning that it was incredibly obvious and most ninja would tool up with a wakizashi or katana instead, as appropriate) but the classic shuriken, knives and the weird stuff as well. Finally, if memory serves, even a PC ninja had to conceal his "ninjahood" from the group, since everyone feared them. Getting rumbled by anyone was practically a death sentence if word got out.

In other words, these were the "peasant is tilling the soil by the roadside, pulls out a poisoned throwing knife" or "the mendicant monk actually has a spear blade concealed in his walking stick" type of ninja, not the anime or typical RPG supermen.

>>51627296
Just remember that ninja are infiltration specialists, not shock troopers. A ninja isn't going to win a head to head fight and would never take a head to head fight.

Ninjas? On my board?

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>>51664954
>Glad to see some Godfrey Ho Ninja Empire fans here.
mah nigga

Also the turks have ninja too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzaWJTOlca4

>>51630989
Everyone present to witness it, of course.

>>51633092
>An event that fundamentally breaks the universe until it is resolved.
Usually resolved when the Spanish Inquisition shows up.

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>>51673856
>Resolved
It's more removed than resolved.

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>>51673856
How unexpected.
>>51652439
Easy, tiger. Don't want you triggering yourself now...
>>51630989
Magical girls.

>>51627296
I like the classic version of them (let's say pre-90's and early-90's) that showed up in various media, but dislike everything after that where it's commonly just shorthand for any number of magical shonen fighting superpower groups that are so prevalent in Japanese media.

>>51658883
>Nothing particularly magical about them in the sagas aside from retard strength and pain tolerance

Are you high? They're specifically described being able to transform into animals and being impervious to mortal weapons.

>>51674606
Sauce of image?

I knew there was an account of Portuguese sailors being attacked by Japanese pirates, did someone make a comic/picture?

>>51627739
It's interesting but not exactly realistic. The "Ninja" were often Samurai or peasant soldiers conducting reconnaissance and scouting enemy positions, eliminating sentries etc.

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>>51674925
>Moortuguese
Spanish Battle of Cagayan.


Espadas del fin del mundo.

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>>51627296
I love ninjas, but as the stealthy, sleight-of-hand saboteurs and spies rather the mystical kung-fu assassins they're normally depicted as.

If a ninja fucks you, it should be because your armoury mysteriously caught fire in the middle of the night and your enemy somehow managed to predict your entire battleplan, almost as though someone was listening as you briefed your men....

Not because some guy in black pyjamas somersaulted over your bodyguards and chucked a shuriken into your neck from 70 metres away.

>>51674949
>This unique event pitted musketeers, pikemen and Spanish rodeleros against Japanese pirates who were mixture of lordless samurai (ronin), soldiers, merchants, and smugglers, and later many of them originated in China rather than Japan[1] Chinese peasants and people of fishing villages would band together to become Wako and would later make up the majority of Wokou pirates.[2] According to the History of Ming, 30% of the 16th century wokou were Japanese, with the remaining 70% being ethnic Chinese.[3][4] Spanish sources record the name of their leader as Tay Fusa, Tayfusu or Tayfuzu. This does not correspond to a Japanese name, but could refer to a medieval chieftain (大夫), called Dàfū in Chinese or Taifu in Japanese.[5] "

SPAIN STRONK! DEFEAT MIGHTY SAMURAI!!

>"Chinese peasants and people of fishing villages"
>"would later make up the majority of Wokou pirates."

lewl

>>51674973
>I-it doesn't count!!
t. butthurt anglo weeb

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>>51674949
>Spanish Battle of Cagayan.
It's physically impossible to fit 1,000 men on 18 sampans.

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>>51627296
I love them. In /tg/ related games I play them, in fighting game I main them, in rpgs and cyoas I self insert as one. Mage are a second of classes I like.

Here have a Kunoichi on me anon.

>>51633083
In the OVA, did fuck all in Universe or Tokyo.
(To be fair OVA is the only one worth watching)

>>51643888
We call them Romulans.

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>>51627726
>Ninjas are thrice as deadly
>Anyone a hashashin can assassinate, a ninja can assassinate twice.

>>51628638
Shut the fuck up, Donny!

>>51628462
hell yes

>>51674611
I have seen this image many many times.
I just noticed hungry hungry hippoes.

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>>51627296
The natural enemies of pirates, as the latter are a natural enemy of theirs itself.

Both started out as common folks/bandit-types, but their evolution was so diverse that both became opposites of each other in certain parts. Both are pragmatic, fight dirty, use various ways to kill a target and aren't to be underestimated.

Pirates are bombastic. Ninjas are stealthy. Pirates are rum drinking anarchists, while ninjas need to discipline themselves if they want to keep up with samurai.

Hence why a pirate hates the ninja due to their stealthy nature, whereas the ninjas see pirates as loud brawlers who cannot into subtlety.

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>>51627726
>hashashin