JumpChain CYOA Thread #1332: Badly Named Edition

>>51617107
Well yes, it is? Or would, now. That's how jumps work, you cheeseeating surrender monkey.

>>51617158
And thank you.

>>51617121
And my point still stands-it's the exact same situation. You haven't achieved anything, other than ensuring people will remember you a little longer.

I just don't see the point.

>>51617106
If I had to guess:

1. Something technological progress something HFY something Jesus Shep died for our science sins no don't ask me about the Destroy ending pls

2. Yes, because you see anon. You're not dealing with the average Reaper warrior anymore. For you see Harbinger has finally become...The Legendary Super Reaper!

More seriously, Leviathans. Although at this point I wouldn't be surprised if they quietly try to sideline them.

>>51617483
>omething technological progress something HFY something Jesus Shep died for our science sins
The expedition started DURING ME2

>>51617483
You presume I do this to achieve anything or that I care if people hate me.

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If singles jumpchain will continue to be horrible.

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>>51613884
>use genre shift perk from original Evangelion jump to turn it back into a gritty deconstruction
>except worse, as everyone had their golden ending and must live with the knowledge that they've lost it

Imagine the despair. The rage.

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I'm going to drop this here and bolt. It's not complete (obviously)

>>51617497
Fair enough, I suppose.

I just think it's a ridiculous waste of time even by jumpchain standards.

>>51617494
Oh what the fuck.

No.

No you're right, this isn't even Mass Effect then.

>>51617526
No change, then. I can live with this.

>>51617579
Anon, I don't know if you've actually read Nobody Dies but calling it a "golden ending" is utterly, utterly inaccurate.

It would be more accurate to say the worst parts of the original ending were excised, in order to bring in ridiculous escalation.

Also every female character except Asuka suddenly becoming a superhuman evil genius for some reason.

>>51617646
It barely even comes up now. The people who understand understand, the people who take her generally stop that stupid plot development from happening, and it only comes up when someone asks or mentions me.

>>51617646
>Anon, I don't know if you've actually read Nobody Dies but calling it a "golden ending" is utterly, utterly inaccurate.
>It would be more accurate to say the worst parts of the original ending were excised, in order to bring in ridiculous escalation.
>Also every female character except Asuka suddenly becoming a superhuman evil genius for some reason.
Well that's how it was described to me when I asked about it. Funny how you make it sound worse.

Have you ever made something you regret making later?

>>51617640
>Summoning Specialization
I like it.
Also
How do I shoot waifus?

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>>51617693
Not technically made but I do give him a lot of perks I shouldn't give him

>>51617431
I was just about to put a new thread up. Nicely done OP!

Now onto a subject that's near and dear to my heart. MATH and Subjective Training Times!
It is time for MATH! Because I noticed something from someone's builds!
Hyperbolic Time Chamber makes 1 day into 1 year. This is a simple multiplier of 365.25 (Using a standard earth calendar year here.)
Clock of Ages (Narnia) is a variable based on the number of Jumps you've had it. (Starts at half-speed slow mo or double speed, improving by 20% every Jump) We'll go with a minimum for this case. This multiplier is effectively a x2 at the time of the experiment.
The Atlamillia Altar from the Dark Cloud 2 Scenario is able to create a settlement in which time moves twice as fast or cut it off from time entirely. The latter is neat but the former is the real meat of the subject here. This is a simple modifier of x2.
SCP-2400 moved 140 times.
Let's go one day of training shall we.
1(Day) x2 (Atlamillia Altar)= 2 x2 (Clock of Ages) = 4 Days x 365.25 (Hyperbolic Time Chamber) = 1461 Days x 140 (SCP-2400) = 204,540 Days (End Result of 560 Years of Training in one Earth Standard 24 hour day)

If anyone else would like to donate to the cause of Subjective Training Time so Jump-Chan don't gotta watch montages all the time please speak up!

>>51617526
I don't understand what you're trying to say.

>>51617700
Look in the items section.

>>51617693
Every single jump I've done.

>>51617725
Open up your Pocket Realm from Creepypasta for 10-30x the time outside of it, which is relative.

>>51617732
Breidablik! Right. So, about that "freely agree" part... Does a hero technically counts as "freely agreeing" if I mind-control/charm them into making a pact with me?

>>51617691
Oh, well. I imagine whoever you were talking to described the 10 or so chapters, and was thinking about the part where Shinji wrestled Adam into the Dirac Sea.

But no. No, most of the inherent psychoses are still there, they're just expressed differently. Asuka's a nervous wreck who never got to be a pilot. Kaworu's a cunt raised the sociopathic mastermind of NERV-who in turn is a lot more proactive. In this continuity Rei's implied to have been designed as a biological superweapon of revenge by Naoko, and she (and her sisters) regularly gets away with what would otherwise be considered acts of terrorism and sexual harassment if anyone reasonably thought they could contain her. Adam reawakens himself from a fetus, and starts shitting nega-angels made of rage and loneliness. Oh, and the Angels are a bunch of dogmatic assholes hellbent on fusing with Adam-and their powerlevel's been ratcheted up to the point where Zeruel fucking jumps from the moon, destroys Everest on impact, fights off three nega-angels (killin two) and then casually walks off without a scratch.

But the real gamechanger is that Shinji is relatively sane and well-adjusted.

>>51617788
No.

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Renegade Jump # 30 FLCL
Age: 24
Gender: Female
Background: 0

Perks:
*Master Guitar in one millisecond class (0)
*Wildly Strong (200, Discount)
*Guitar Summoning (300, Discount)
*Epic soundtrack (0)
*Part Redundancy (200)

Eqipment
*Gibson EB-0, 1960 Model (300)
*Bunny Suit (0)

Journal Entry # 73451

I don’t get it, I don’t understand this world. I can’t figure out what Fooly Cooly is, I don’t understand the thing with the Guitars. I just don’t understand any of it. I am able to pull stuff out of peoples forheads… I don’t know why, just that it’s very disgusting and slightly perverted.

I have tried to talk with some alien girl but she has been absolutely no help what so ever. She only told me she is the one who is going to get Atomsk. So she is not going to b e a lot of help. I feel sorry for the kid she is with… it’s pretty clear he is just getting used for some reason.

Whatever the case I think I am just going to try and sit back until I understand more. This place… is strange.

>>51617812
Exactly what is the baby dimension everyone got so excited about anyway?

>>51617785
I can't remember is relative time the one that you have to put at the end or beginning? Or am I remembering another term incorrectly?

>>51617640
I don't like the Merging Heroes perk. Seems like it's too vague and can lead to people claiming there's always a parallel version to have thousands of companions take up a single slot.

>>51617843
It's a Fire Emblem Fates thing called the Deeprealms where they throw babies in and they pop out fully grown. It's mainly an excuse to have kids like Awakening did but since there's no time travel you have a shitty ass justification instead.

It's not a thing in fire emblem heroes and I'm glad.

>>51617785
Actually, that won't work. YJ_Anon said that time progresses at a set rate, about 30x faster than the "real world" (presumably Creepypasta Earth), even where that wouldn't make sense like in Narnia or other such odd realms.

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>>51617725
That's just ridiculous. Let's make it worse!

Ki Dojo (Killer Instinct)
This simulation takes place at a speed 100 times faster than reality, and you may sustain it as long as your body's stamina holds out- This technique will exercise both your mind and body. You will keep any skills or techniques you develop in the simulation, and the rigorous breathing serves both to enhance your concentration and provide a full-body workout.

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>>51617693
The pentathong. It seemed like a good idea at first. Then suddenly succubuss demons were everywhere.

Predators questions
Looking at the times of the locations, it seem the time between Predators 1 & 2 is just over a decade. Any chance of a +0 CP Movie Night Double Feature or Movie Night Triple Play drawback that sets you starting in 1985 with enough time to cover all 2 or three movies and a benefactor guarantee to be drawn into the plot of them somehow?

The crossover drawback explicitly does NOT cover the AvP franchise. I cannot find those jumps anywhere. Have they yet to be made?

If you spend CP for a Canon Companion, do they get their origin and CP like the create a companion Partner would? If not, what do they get?

Are additional purchases of 100 CP items discounted for that origin? Like if you want some extra CP Falcon Drones that auto respawn without you having to build/repair them yourself.

So who has the most potential, a pure-blooded Saiyan or a mixed race?

>>51618036
Yes.

>>51618036
According to Beerus, a half-Saiyan.

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>>51617693
I had no respect for my children in my early days.

I guess knowing that you won't see they growing makes that to you.

>>51618036
It doesn't matter, since taking either option will render you lower than shit.

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>>51617640

Bodacious Babes

Thanks Nika or Moth,Now my Anna can have her relatives Join with her on her Journey but would that work because Anna's aren't actually the same person

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>>51618036
Pure-blooded Saiyans make great waifus.

>>51617892
What. That... doesn't make any sense. Or, can you use it as fast-travel, then? I suppose that'd be reasonable, as it'd always be connected to the "real world".

>>51618068
They have dumb hair, ugly faces, and absolutely detestable personalities. You are wrong.

>>51617693
In all honesty? Not as much as you might think. I joke about the "abominations against god" I make in my Lab, but it doesn't turn out horribly as often as I might lead people to believe.

>>51617725
Mage the Awakening, Ritual Casting can get you ridiculous time multipliers if you went with Time as one of your Masteries. Let's say another 10x. Though that's low balling it hard if you have magic boosters.

>>51617028
That's referred to as 'irony at its finest'

>>51617725
Mage the Awakening can do an AOE time bubble that's accelerated up to 6x faster than regular time, going just by the examples in the text box, and logically can do more if you cast better. Add in overcharging through something like the perk in Overlord and you can make time in that area go a whole lot faster.

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>>51617725
Just use Lunar Dial, pal.

And add Enhanced Mastery, by the way.

>>51618112
No, it's called "an unhealthy relationship that will end in one or both of you dead". But waifufags have never been good at making smart decisions in regards to relationships, so that's only to be expected.

>>51617860
They'd still need to somehow buy thousand of parallel companions somehow. I don't think that's too easy...

>>51618091
They're okay once you get them acclimated to Earth culture. I'll give you that there are issues until them, and even after that they're not for everyone.

>Saiyan waifu pissed that you stuffed her into a tailless human form in a mundane setting

>>51618190
Wait, do they have to be companions to begin with? That would be a retarded reading comprehension on my end.

>>51618091
>>51618204
Goku and Raditz's mom was always a softheart. They stuck her in the kitchens because she wouldn't fight, basically.

>>51617693
>Have you ever made something you regret making later?
There are perks for that.
Innisburg has a unmaking perk that lets you uncreate anything you ever made with a simple act of will.

Lacking that, Demon Spawn from Yusha ban lets you disperse created demons as will, and in conjunction with Power Combos and another creation perk, should let you do much the same thing.

There may be other similar ways to put the genie back on the bottle when one of your creations turns out wrong.

>>51618233
Yeah, it says "Any companions you take with you that are simply different versions of each other"

So they'd have to be companions first before the perk would do anything.

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>>51618068
> tfw saiyan
> everyone thinks I'm lower left
> it turns out I'm more upper right

Saiyan biology did weird things to my personality that jump.

>>51617725
A Dark Place from Alan Wake stops time completely for a week. That means that you'd have 500+ years to gain as much time as you want, assuming that Dark Place has even a minimal cooldown time.

>>51618286
Good, there's a simple solution for that then, considering some jumps have massive companion sizes.

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>>51617693
Not really, though I've been told I'm not allowed to use magic in the kitchen anymore after the Sentient Chocolate Syrup incident during the years in Kamen Rider. Honestly, I thought it was a lot of fun but my Companions did not agree.

Nobody respects my Magical Gastronomy unless it's useful in combat. Then it's all "Yoro! Deploy the Stick Toffee Pudding Bomb!", "Yoro, Deploy the Kool-Aid Golem!", or "Yoro! Stop holding out on us and bring out the Jell-O Shooter!"

>>51617813
Woo! Another Jumper confused by the universe that is FLCL.

>>51617978
... I'll take three.

>>51618233
Aww, anon, don't be so harsh on yourself. Everyone misses stuff sometimes.

>>51617785
>>51617848
Reading how it works I don't think It'll do anything but slow the Training Chamber down.

>>51617921
Oh thanks.

>>51618109
>>51618115
Thanks for that.

So it works like this, in order now because MATH needs to be organized!
1. The Atlamillia Altar from the Dark Cloud 2 Scenario is able to create a settlement in which time moves twice as fast or cut it off from time entirely. The latter is neat but the former is the real meat of the subject here. This is a simple modifier of x2.
2. Enter Warehouse which has Clock of the Ages active. Clock of Ages (Narnia) is a variable based on the number of Jumps you've had it. (Starts at half-speed slow mo or double speed, improving by 20% every Jump) We'll go with a minimum for this case. This multiplier is effectively a x2 at the time of the experiment.
3. Enter Warehouse Attachment Hyperbolic Time Chamber makeing 1 day into 1 year. This is a simple multiplier of 365.25 (Using a standard earth calendar year here.)
4. Enter prepared SCP-2400 in which time moves 140 times.
5. Throw down a Mage the Awakening Time Bubble (Going from the canon baseline of x6)
6. Settle down and use the Ki Dojo which allows for x100 training of body and mind. Stamina Based.
Let's go one day of training shall we.
1(Day) x2 (Atlamillia Altar) = 2 x2 (Clock of Ages) = 4 Days x 365.25 (Hyperbolic Time Chamber) = 1461 Days x 140 (SCP-2400) = 204,540 Days x 6 (Mage the Awakening Time Bubble) = 1,227,240 x 100 (Ki Dojo) = 122,724,000 (End Result of 336,000 Years of Training in one Earth Standard 24 hour day)

For added benefits and Maximum Gains!
Tireless (Overlord), The Montage Perk (Magick IIRC) and Training perks.

>>51618129
Making the combo is part of the fun! So no to the first part and added to the second good anon.

>>51618332
That may be retaliative to the real world, so a great thing to pop before you head into the warehouse, but it might throw something off because it's not really 'in the settlement' not sure.

>>51618453
You'd also need some perks to not go insane from the loneliness and monotony and stay motivated.

>>51618453
You forgot scp. There is an item qhich speeds time up x140. Its a movable door.

>>51618453
>That may be retaliative to the real world
That wouldn't make any sense, desu. You're creating an area in which time is stopped. It'd be like saying that superspeed or fireballs run relative to the real world.

>>51618538
>It'd be like saying that superspeed or fireballs run relative to the real world.
Don't they? Sorry, I'm just not getting your analogy.

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>>51618520
Please look again anon.
>4. Enter prepared SCP-2400 in which time moves 140 times.

>>51618538
Well they kinda do. I'm with this guy >>51618587.

>>51618587
No, in an area in which time is dilated, they'd work relative to the time dilation. It's kind of the whole point.

>>51618405
>Woo! Another Jumper confused by the universe that is FLCL

Yeah it's a good thing there is no drawback that makes you have to try and figure out what fooly cooly means by the end of 10 years or it would be as big a graveyard for jumpers as Aliens and Soul Eater.

>>51618615
Oh, I get it. You meant the fireballs and super-speed in that specific reference frame, not fireballs and super-speed in general. I thought you were comparing the time stop itself to the fireballs and super-speed.

>>51618491
Soooo, any Shonen Protagonist Training Perk at all?

>>51618453
How about that room in generic xianxia that speeds time up 1k years per minute outside?

>>51618491
Presumably the monotony and loneliness can be counteracted by self inflicted delusions and intentional mental obfuscation, similarly motivation could be fixed by removing free will and turning your training process into a macro that just repeats until a certain point. By the time you've experienced 336000 years, or let's say a full decade's worth of 1226400000 years since you decided to use a whole jump for training, by the end of it you're not likely to remain human, assuming your mind and body can adapt to the new time scale.

There's nothing stopping people from doing this in every vacation jump or jump that doesn't have mandatory conditions to be met, so you can multiply that time again by however many jumps you take and just do nothing but train your entire chain.

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What perks give some good atomic/nuclear powers? I'm looking to be not Captain Atom.

>>51618717
Or you could get that perk from zim that makes you never get bored.

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>>51618643
I FEEL AN UPDATE COMING ON!

>>51618686
Won't help. These training time spans make shounen time spans look like child's play. Even Xianxia generally won't hit several trillion years worth of training. You're basically going to be training non stop, ignoring everything outside, since you're training for the sake of training.

>>51617693
In Star Trek I spent my time as a dimensionally lost alien (not all that much of a lie) and basically was played the kinda helpful mad scientist archetype, and got myself a lab on DS9. So if my inventions weren't causing some sort of disaster I felt I wasn't doing my job.

Of course I didn't really regret any of those, but what I did regret was on Terok Nor when I was trying to appease the Cardassians and give medical assistance to Bajorians while insisting I never made any weapons, some of the more radical resistance fighters stoled some high energy physics equipment in my lab and used it as a weapon, killing dozens of Cardassians and their families.

I basically had to hid my lab in a pocket dimension and was labeled an enemy of the Cardassians. After the occupation I was welcomed by the Bajorans for all of my medical work, but I made sure those fighters were punished.

I still remember that little cardassian boy, dead in front of me.

>>51618721
Infernal Sun from Touhou

>>51618689
You can't have any sentient things inside for that to work. It's for growing plants quickly

>>51618756
You can just take a few hours (or days of training) every day and exit the room when you feel tired or bored.

>>51618615
Ah okay then! I was wondering what you were talking about. That's okay but the time stop effect time directly, so you get seven days outside of absolute time, is what I was saying. Whilst still useful, giving more days to safely multiply in the Jumper Training Chamber, it isn't a part of the multipliers to see how much time we can squeeze out of a subjective 24 hour day.

>>51618689
It's 1k years per day and it seems to work only on plants. Just my reading of it though.

>>51618717
The montage perk I was remembering allows you to fast forward is thus:
The Weight of the Years (Master of Magic)
You might be here for a long time. Could get dull at times. What this ability allows you to do is to put yourself on autopilot. Your autopilot self won’t be quite as capable as you are, but can handle routine with no problem at all. You can set conditions, or a length of time, at which the autopilot will end. e.g. “Until I finish mastering this spell, or someone attacks my empire, or a year has passed.” You will not be consciously aware of the time passing during this period, but can access knowledge gained during the time (subject to the normal decay of memory; the ability does not inherently grant perfect recall unless you have that from elsewhere). If you do not explicitly set a different time limit condition, your autopilot will not last more than one year before bringing you back to reality; it will also always end if you are (personally) attacked.

>>51618733
Symbiote Boredom Immunity is also good.

>>51618772
What would you say is the best Star Trek jump?

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>>51617813

Renegade Jump # 31 In Nomine
Starting location: Los Angelos
Background: Divine (100)
Race: Angel (100)
Species: Seraph

Perks:
*Servitor of Revelations (0)
*Rite of Revelations (0)
*Sense of Significance (150, Discount)
*Smite (300)
*Servitor of Judgement (50, Discount)
*Distinction Revelations X 3 (300,Discount)

Equipment
*Vassal (0)
*Attractive Vassal (50, Discount)
*Holy Grail (150, Discount)

Drawback:
*Fallible (+200)

(I have never played the game so I really don’t know what’s going on)

Journal Entry # 739553

I have come to a realization about certain things. Many of my jumps went so badly because I lacked information. Information could have made my time in Elfen Lied much easier and prevented the tragedy I unknowingly took part in.

Information might just make some of these nonsensical worlds, make some sort of sense. So I have become an angel of the truth. A revealer of secrets. I don’t really care that much about the job but intend to do the best I can. This cold war seems to be by design on both sides so hopefully no one feels like pressing the issue and I can just go around helping reporters and detectives find the truth they are looking for.

Journal Entry # 739555

So it turns out knowing the truth may not always be the best thing. I found out several things I wish I hadn’t. I found out several things about my bosses that I wish weren’t the case and I am not saying I am regretting this but I have found concrete proof that sometimes the truth is ugly. I think I am going to spend more time with mortals, they have more mundane lies to uncover.

In a related note… I am sorry to write that I have had to place Kotomine in the warehouse for the foreseeable future. He was only here to watch me suffer and was responsible for Fuyuki city.
I don’t know if I can forgive that. I was so stupid to trust him. Ami is pleased with my actions and is trying to tell me not to be hard on myself. She is a good friend.

>>51618811
>seven days outside of absolute time
Actually, you get seven days inside. It can't possibly be outside because only things inside can experience time. Strictly speaking, it's effectively a multiplier of a week, divided by however long the ability takes to activate.

>>51618804
It wasn't "it won't work" as in the perks won't work. It's "it won't work" as in the problem isn't fatigue or boredom. By the time you can train nonstop for 336000 years, there's no problems as far as physical and mental fatigue goes. You're likely to be at least an age based immortal with no physical needs, with very select physical desires. The problem becomes, why stop at 336000 years? Once you build up momentum there's very little reason to stop.

Without perfect recollection, 336000 years is a great time to easily forget all about your origins, your family, and whatnot. With perfect recollection, you're now weighing 336000 years against however much time you've spent with your companions/loved ones/other people in general.

By the time the first 336000 years is over, there's not that much reason why you'd want to come out at all. If 336000 years makes you "good", why shouldn't 672000 years make you "better"? You could repeat this infinitely, at least until your time in the jump is up. But then at the start of the next jump the tried and true routine will still be the most prominent thing in your mind.

You can try to fix this by deleting that information so that it's weight isn't as significant, but does that mean you lose the information gained during training?

>>51618940
Made Men has a perk for this I think.

>>51618814
The Enterprise time period one.

>>51618940
>does that mean you lose the information gained during training?
No. You can easily just delete the experienced time without deleting the knowledge.

>>51617725

Depending on how the ten year limit is measured relative to the setting (and only working if the setting is contained to one planet)...

Simply accelerating the planet to ultra-near lightspeed and then training in space will allow you to spend as long as you like doing other things before you put it back into orbit and decelerate it, with virtually no time passing for the target planet.

>>51619020
...you're gonna need to be more specific. Which Enterprise?

>>51618975
I don't think you really need a perk for it at all. The problem framed is almost a meta one, and for people who don't use companions much, don't care about the world in the jump, and are strictly after logging training hours, there's realistically no problem.

With the montage perk mentioned here >>51618811 all you'd need to do is go inside the fortified training environment, set the timer to "when the jump ends in real time", then train nonstop. The autopilot would mean that your jump would instantly end, and as far as writing goes all you'd really have is "I woke up and the jump was done, but I felt stronger".

This is pretty stupid in its own way of course, but you can probably see how this isn't a problem but rather appealing to select groups of individuals.

It's if you actually care about the world that it becomes a problem, because to some extent you're fighting a power addiction, which was presumably what led to needing 336000 years of training in a day to begin with. And there's basically no limit as to how much power you can get, since you can delude yourself endlessly as far as that goes.

>>51618756
>You're basically going to be training non stop, ignoring everything outside, since you're training for the sake of training.
That is dumb. If you have arbitrary amounts of time, that is not all nonstop training, that is arbitrary amounts of training, inter-spaced with arbitrary amounts of downtime. Sleep (even if you don't strictly have to, for the dreams), videogames, sex, etc.

>>51619075
>that is arbitrary amounts of training, inter-spaced with arbitrary amounts of downtime
>downtime
>implying people didn't take perks that give infinite stamina with no need to eat, drink, or sleep
>implying they aren't deluding themselves into thinking they can focus purely on training and mindlessly grind for all those millennia
>implying their waifus and harems aren't just a cheerleader squad they expect to wait for glorious jumper dick
You have not seen the mentality of some people, anon.

>>51619068
The Jump that covers the Enterprise TV series with Scott Bacula.

Which does not actually exist at this time. And yet I stand by my answer that it is better than the existing Star Trek jumps.

>>51619075
The problem is we're trying to optimize here, increasing the time frame up to a maximum and maximizing the return off of that. If this wasn't a matter of optimization, there isn't any need for training at all in the vast majority of cases. Optimization here is a matter of mindset, where one's life is solely dedicated to training and improvement with absolutely nothing else.

As a result of this motivation, downtime doesn't factor into this at all, because its very simple to rework your body physiology so that it's not only unnecessary, but also not beneficial to have downtime. You'd be in a constant and fixed state of hyperfocus, and all the end of it all, you'd have no memories of the time spent.

This is basically a munchkin issue that's being discussed here, taking something beyond its logical conclusion to extremities. If it seems dumb to you, it's probably because you're not in the right mindset to consider it.

>>51619146
Ah, the Enterprise series. Could be fun. Is anyone working on that currently?

So, I've been having some trouble coming up with a "Power" section for B:TAS, because there's surprisingly few people with actual superpowers in Batman's Rogues Gallery (at least in the animated series).

So far I have Animal Hybrid based off of Killer Croc, Man-Bat, Tygrus, and Romulus, "Face of Clay" based off of Clayface, Florakinesis for Poison Ivy, Vertigo for Count Vertigo, and "Yellow-Skinned Wacky-Man" for the Creeper. There's also Etrigan, Zattana, and Solomon Grundy (who lived in Gotham), but I'm not offering their powers because they wouldn't mesh with the lower power of the rest of the Jump.

So, what I was thinking of doing is that instead of having a section solely for superpowers, there would be a "Powers and Gimmicks" section, where I would offer things like Bane's venom injecting mask, or Mr. Freeze's suit, in addition to superpowers. I feel like this would help make the section feel less sparse, as well as helping to free up space in the item section that might've looked bloated in comparison with the abundance of technology based villains.

Any thoughts on a shared Power/Gimmick section?

>>51619126
I'm pretty sure the folks who would do the nonstop power grind are the same ones who don't have companions, or routinely eat their companions for power as another form of farming. It's already supreme delusion, made possible by /jc/.

>>51618975
It's Mad Men and That Never Happened might work.

>>51619069
I'm just trying to make an awesome training place where I can get such things done 'faster'. How it's used is up to Jumpers individually.
Personally as I stated up here,>>51617725 this is Subjective Training Time so Jump-Chan don't gotta watch montages all the time. Basically the idea is that you, on autopilot, get the training you need and then get out because this shits boring as fuck but needs to be done.

>>51619183
Go for it, make some gimmicks discounted for specific origins.

>>51619189
Oh no. You get some of those same people who collect waifus like trophy pieces and casually expect them to wait around on hand and foot.

It's actually a major part of some xianxia stories. Some of those women had to be raped into submission, but then they suddenly love glorious MC.

>>51619069
>It's if you actually care about the world that it becomes a problem, because to some extent you're fighting a power addiction, which was presumably what led to needing 336000 years of training in a day to begin with.
Not really. For me, the whole point of time dilation is /precisely/ so that I can actually experience the real world without it passing by me when I'm doing boring things such as training.

>>51619183
I agree with >>51619207 is Mad Hatter in B: TAS? Cause his tech is fucking smoll for what it does.

>>51619183

Joker virus thing that that turned him into the joker.

>>51619183
>Any thoughts on a shared Power/Gimmick section?
Condiment king! is Mister Banjo one of Batman's?

>>51619235
It's a major part of many fiction settings, where women don't behave logically, sensibly, or with any sense of reason. Frankly, with jumpchain as "me-centric" as it is, it's no wonder that you don't see too many companion oriented builds, and the ones that do show up tend to be waifu collecting central.

In reality, there are many Xianxia novels where the harem phenomenon doesn't occur at all and MC isn't some strapping buck that wins all the waifus. The problem? A massive amount of Xianxia novels aren't translated, and the ones that have been translated tend to be the particularly eyecatchy ones. What's eyecatchy? Having a large cast of female protags to toss up on the cover.

The whole rape thing is also a vast exaggeration. Even back in the days when we had wuxia columns regularly in newspapers, when the Little Dragon Girl got raped people weren't happy about it at all, and it never showed up again elsewhere. The vast majority of xianxia has been smart enough not to tread on the same ground.

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>>51619183
I think that could work well. It fits the series well. I don't think the difference between super powers and items were less pronounced. They were all just problems batman had to deal with one way or another. Though I do think there has to be a skill among them that lets you hit people using large rocks with greater efficiency. (Sorry couldn't resist)

>>51619183
http://batmantheanimatedseries.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Villains

Here you go YJ! Hope this helps you with some stuff, though you likely have already come across it before...

Jumpers!

Your hair is amazing! Who does it?

>>51619183
You better include some Phantasm items/perks.

>>51619482
Satan's gay brother Satin.

>>51619501
Ah yeah, he's very acute for a rouge angle.

>>51619482
I'm like a saiyan.
My hair just is.

>>51619207
Discounts for Powers/Gimmicks is something I'm on the fence about, since one origin (Bat-family/Vigilante) doesn't have as much to base off of compared to the Scientist and Criminal origins (and Drop In, but that's a little easier to fix in a way), and I want each section to be about the same in terms of discounts for origin.

>>51619293
Yeah, he's in.

>>51619312
You mean the chemical bath thing? That didn't really give him powers; he's just a surprisingly good inventor for a crazy person.

>>51619319
Yeah, though I used the DCAU wiki instead.

>>51619488
Right, of course.

>>51619482

Random hair salon stylist. If they mess up or I dont like it I have too many perks to be unable to fix it.

But sometime I just like chatting with random strangers and getting my hair done.

If the setting has no stylist, I used various hair styling perks like the one from Devil May Cry to get it into place.

>>51619312
But... that's just him falling into a chem bath and getting his skin bleached. It's him going absolutely insane from realizing he looked like that which made him the Joker.

He's literally just a normal guy which gained a resistance to toxins from constant self-experimentation and the mindset of "what if I killed a shitton of people by making them vomit their organs in the shape of a smile for giggles?"

>>51619628
Is R'as AL Ghillie a thing in this version?

>>51619831
Yep.

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>>51619183
Seems like a good idea. I'm racking my brain thinking of what to add, but you've covered all of the major bases, especially if you roll Powers and Gimmicks together.

The only thing I can even think of is something to represent Ra's al Ghul and his Lazarus Pit.

>>51619161
>The problem is we're trying to optimize here
>As a result of this motivation, downtime doesn't factor into this at all
You approaching this in the wrong way.
"Downtime" does not mean you are not training or improving, it means you are training on multiple axis at once, or your lack of progress in other areas is a glaring weakness. It would be like training a left hand punch for a trillion years and considering switching to the right hand, or kicks as unoptomized.

There are things you can train with video games, and perks to make playing them even better. Do you believe lucid dreaming for part of that time is a waste? Or spending time with your friends or family? There are perks that make everything effective training, and doing all this training alone when you could be training with them is a net power loss compared to what the combined gains could be.

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>>51619482
I just sort of roll out of bed looking this good. If I need to adjust my hair for whatever reason, I do it myself. Generally via autobiokinesis, because normal scissors aren't up for the task and there's no way in hell I'm going to make some weapons-grade hair trimmers.

>>51619183
>Solomon Grundy (who lived in Gotham), but I'm not offering their powers because they wouldn't mesh with the lower power
Did not think Grundy was high power at all. Isn't his thing just that he keeps coming back?

>>51619850
Lazarus Pit would probably be better suited towards the item section, and Ra's has a capstone based off of him and the League of Shadows for Crime Lords.

>>51619455
I'd love to see Maxie Zeus but I think his incarnation that I'm remembering, The True God Movie, isn't officially B: TAS right?

>>51619845
Alright, cool. Also...

>R'as AL Ghillie
Wtf phone.

>>51619903
Sometimes. Grundy varies in power a lot.

>>51619903
Grundy apparently can be quite strong, but I think he needs someone to enhance him with magic for that. But he can be stronger than superman.

>>51619967
He's a magical zombie, he bypasses Supes supernatural toughness.

>>51619986
Considering he can also fight Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel (Shazam) with super strength just fine that doesn't hold up.

>>51619967
>>51619986
>>51620028
>>51619955
>>51619903
Here you go http://dcau.wikia.com/wiki/Solomon_Grundy

>>51619903
At his weakest, he was able to go toe-to-toe with heavy hitters like Superman; at his strongest, after being revived (again), he was fighting Superman, Green Lantern, and a few other heroes at the same time and winning.

>>51619928
I think the episode you're thinking of is from The Batman, a separate continuity.

>>51620060
>I think the episode you're thinking of is from The Batman, a separate continuity.
Thought so. Ah well he's got a rad lighting gun at least right?

>>51619986
Nah Grundy is just tough enough to tangle with the Justice League's bricks.

>>51619857
Again, this isn't optimal. Optimized training means you're training every single aspect all at once, with only a single method. Rather than shifting between training A versus training B, you'd be always training A and B using a method of least resistance. It isn't even a matter of gain comparison, because you're training for everything at once at maximum rates.

>>51620094
Two; one of them's a big cannon that he stole from the government, the other's shaped like a thunderbolt.

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>>51617978
>pentathong
Uhhhh. What's the tensile strength on those? I'm asking for a friend.

>>51619670
>what if I killed a shitton of people by making them vomit their organs in the shape of a smile for giggles?
Read that Joker's voice, holy shit.

>>51620060
>The Batman, a separate continuity
What, what. I remember that episode, and it was animated. How is it not part of the DCAU like all the other animated stuff?

>>51620060
http://dcau.wikia.com/wiki/Fire_From_Olympus

>>51620204
Here you go, anon. Enjoy.

https://audioboom.com/HamillHimself

>>51620221
Uh, DCAU is a specific collection of media, not just everything that's animated and related to DC. Kin of like how Dark Knight isn't part of DCEU.

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>>51620221
Not every cartoon is part of the DCAU, anon.

>>51620204
No no. You want to know how the Joker would say it? Sorry for the shitty writefagging.

>"I can tell you're just anxious to know what's going on, Batsy! Everyday you see all the depressed and dejected walking down the streets, perpetual frowns with not a happy face in sight! Bottling their problems and cares inside so no one notices!"
>"But anyone will tell you that keeping it all inside just makes it worse! It festers and rots, it's only making them all feel even worse! Sometimes you just need to let it all out... just look at me! Of course they just fall over afterwards. They can hold their liquor but they can't even hold a happy thought... but hey! It's nothing but smiles and happy thoughts afterwards! Why, they're just DYING to try it! HA HAAAA!"

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Here's my current progress on the update for Showa Kamen Rider Part 1.

Tell me your thoughts and suggestions. Especially the latter, because I'm drawing a blank on some of this stuff.

Changes:
>You get an item budget
>Twice the number of perks, though obviously some aren't filled in yet.
>More items
>Companions get 600 points instead of 500, can buy items, and get their own item budget
>Canon Companion option
>2 new drawbacks

It's not finished yet so don't start making builds, but I felt like sharing.

>>51619628
>You mean the chemical bath thing? That didn't really give him powers; he's just a surprisingly good inventor for a crazy person.

I could have sworn that gave him some minor endurance and strength boost and remember YJ he was a scientist before and not always crazy and had a wife and child

>>51620397
Any backstory the Joker tells you is just a story, there's no canon origin for him before the Red Hood thing that lead to him getting his chemical bath.

>>51620381
Ah this is so good Kamen Jumper I mean fucking A I'm temepted to redo my Jump.

>>51620397
>he was a scientist before and not always crazy and had a wife and child
That depends on which version of his past you go with.

B:TAS had him possibly as a mobster a la Mask of the Phantasm with no family to speak of. Then the "Return of the Joker" movie suddenly had him as a geneticist. So who the fucks knows?

>>51620381
oh kamen jumper you so cray cray

>>51620334
>>"I can tell you're just anxious to know what's going on, Batsy! Everyday you see all the depressed and dejected walking down the streets, perpetual frowns with not a happy face in sight! Bottling their problems and cares inside so no one notices!"
>>"But anyone will tell you that keeping it all inside just makes it worse! It festers and rots, it's only making them all feel even worse! Sometimes you just need to let it all out... just look at me! Of course they just fall over afterwards. They can hold their liquor but they can't even hold a happy thought... but hey! It's nothing but smiles and happy thoughts afterwards! Why, they're just DYING to try it! HA HAAAA!"
Meanwhile Batman's like
External
>Joker.
Internal
>OH GOD WHAT THE FUCK WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT WHAT THE FUCK!

>>51620439
>So who the fucks knows?
Maybe he is a drop in jumper who likes randomly bringing up all of his previous background purchases for the lulz?
And you are in the lead up to the getting the Renegade jumper spring on you.

>>51620531
Nah, he doesn't have a big enough harem to be a Jumper.

Guys. Guys, I have a problem.

I think I've done run out of Jumps that I know what are.

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>>51620679
Well, now you'll have to research some of the Jumps you don't know. Watch/Read something you never would normally dig into. It's a great part of Jumpchain.

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>>51618824
Renegade Jump # 32 Hellsing
Age: 18
Gender: Female
Background: Hellsing

Perks:
*Feared (0)
*War Vetran (100, Discount)
*The Art of War (200)
*Alucard’s Embrace (600, Discount)

Equipment:
Harkonnen 1 (100, Discount)

Reward:
*Holy Empowerment (400)
Companion Getto! Alucard

Journal Entry # 739855

Sometimes things just give you an indication on how a jump is going to go. My first memories of this jump was realizing that I was dying and someone asking me if I wanted to live. I gave them an emphatic yes or as emphatic a yes as I could in my state and now I am a vampire.

So I am a servant of the household of Hellsing… because sure they would be employing vampires, why not. Anyways we serve crown and country against supernatural threats and considering this organization was mostly wiped out by an attack of a mysterious foe. It seems someone is up to something big.

Journal Entry # 740025

So it’s Nazis, we are under attack by Nazis. They announced themselves and are planning world War 3. I have stopped questioning things, it doesn’t make sense but they have to be stopped. I guess that just goes with being a jumper resolving situations that make absolutely no sense because you have absolutely no choice in the matter if you want to stay alive.

(To be continued)

>>51620679
Jump IPs that you're unaware of. It's a neat way to learn about new IPs and it can expand your chain in unexpected ways.

>>51620735
Journal Entry # 740050

So Zeplins vs Fire Ball is not even a fair fight. I get they were trying to be thematic and they were probably heavily armored but Magic fireballs seems to bypass all that. So I destroyed most of their army. They did destroy a good chunk of London but We were able to route them. There were a few traders inour midst but they were taken care of. I was also able to bring Alucard back early because I can teleport. So he got to join in the fun. He really does enjoy his job.


Journal Entry # 740200

Things have quieted down now, we have won, the last remnants of Millennium have been crushed. I found myself in a strange position. I offered Alucard a chance to come along and wander the Multiverse with me. He agreed once he found out that time would stop here. I also used a technique I learned to restore youth and vitality to Walter. I don’t know how he will feel about eternal youth but he seemed rather happy.

>>51618721
Fallout/4 is good for nuclear science. They had their entire civilization powered by it until...well. Lets just say atomic power is not a toy.

>>51620679
End your chain and restart in a different order if you don't feel like going elsewhere.

>>51618643
>Soul Eater
...is that really such a dangerous place? I've only seen the Anime, and it didn't really seem that dangerous, Especially if you buy Anti-Madness Wavelength and Madness Release.
>>51618721
City of Heroes has radiation powers i believe. Not an entire set, but eh

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What did you do on SS13, jumpers?

>>51618721
Heroes has something, if you consider it valid. So does Incredibles.

>>51620679
This was sort of why I started to take suggestions. I realized I was running out of IPs I was familiar with. I am not saying it's a perfect suggestion but sometimes you can find interesting abilities and stories in IPs you would have never otherwise visited. It can be a bit more work and I am not always satisfied with the results but sometimes it can turn out really cool.

>>51620865
Super Saiyans don't go that high, anon.

>>51618814
The other response is not me. As for me I would say Next Generation if only because well that is the time period I really like being in. Although the NuTrek jump may actually be the better jump document.

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>>51620891
Saiyans live in space, though

>>51620717
>>51620746
>>51620888

But...but that would necessitate me getting out of my comfortable sci fi bubble. I don't think I'm ready for that.

Oh hey, old cartoons I used to watch.

>>51620857
Apparently if you go to the anime (like I did) no but in the manga there is stuff that have powers that can actively drive you crazy and completely losing your mind is a fail condition. Usually Jumper Graveyards are those jumps with alternate fail conditions. You can spend a lot of time shoring up your defenses then run in to a jump where all of that means nothing.

I was thinking just now (surprising I know) I want to make a mala prayer beed necklace and enchant each of the 108 beads with a different spell. Do you guys have some suggestions for bead spells?

Both ideas for soecific spells or how to make them?

>>51620924
Saiyans can't even breath in space.

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>>51620891

They do with Even Further Beyond from AF

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>>51620965
Why not be like best Waifu and go the full 1080? Pic Related.

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>>51620965
Really, it depends on what you have access to. I mean, Forgotten Realms alone has a ton that would be handy to have on hand.

>>51621043
I have no idea who that is.

>>51620929
Are there movie jump you have not jumped?
Easy to watch a movie to get familiar...

>>51621062
What!? This must be fixed! Here http://shamanking.wikia.com/wiki/Asakura_Anna this is the Waifu who will be Shaman Queen!

>>51621062
She's the main character's wife in Shaman King. Or maybe it's more accurate to say that he's her husband, given their relationship dynamic. She's a type of shaman that deals with the esoteric spiritual magic more than the Oversoul battle-form stuff the rest of the characters use. One of her tools is a string of 1080 blessed prayer beads that she can perform various spiritual rituals with.

>>51621056
Heylin magic, dnd, discworld, nanoha, dragonlance, overlord mostly necromancy, merling, negima, sword and sorcery, smite, young justice, banner saga, and mushoku. I think I have more though.

>>51621077
most of this is now boredom and my own laziness. What I should really be doing is producing more Jumps for stuff I like that's not in the drive.

>>51621032
At that point you should really be thinking up better names for them.

Although I suppose technically the characters don't call them "Super Saiyan 1/2/3", so it's more of a designation level for the viewer's benefit.

It still seems like it would get pretty unwieldy after awhile, though.

>>51620929
Break into xianxia. It's the hottest new thing.

Asking again:

How does Item World upgrade its items? Do you have to kill the enemies, or can you just defeat them?

Does every Item inherently have a Item World, or is it only created when I use it? Am I effectively committing genocide every time I modify or destroy an item?

>>51621223
Are you sure that's not Worm_Anon?

>>51617640
This is awesome and so are you.

>>51620965
Enchant all of them with the strongest summoning spells you know, enhanced as much as possible, then burn them all at once for a massive and surprisingly compact fuck you.

Or spells that clone you. Get a fortress, put 108 of yourself in it and be a one man Suikoden game.

>>51621238
What are you on about?

>>51621238
1) You can just defeat them. In the game all you have to do is make your way through each floor and it counts for upgrading the item, beating enemies optional. It's like climbing stairs, except each step has a shitload of magic effects and enemies trying to kill you.

2) Fanwank it.

>>51621238
Going by the game, you kill enemies that embody negative traits of the item while leveling up characters that represent positive traits. As for the existence of them, I think they're not there until you use the perk, at least post-jump.

>>51621316
Disgaea, I believe.

>>51620381
You are making me feel shame, senpai.

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>>51621122
Well, I'm not sure about the rest of them, but I can help on the Dungeons and Dragons Magic front.

So, you've got the basic defensive spells
+ Greater Mage Armor
+ Greater Shield
+ Bless
+ Prayer
+ Nondetection
+ Displacement
+ Resist Energy (Will need 5 beads to cover all five of the main elements)

The various Utility spells that are great to have on hand
+ Endure Elements
+ Disguise Self
+ Expeditious Retreat
+ Feather Fall
+ Find Traps
+ Neutralize Poison
+ Spider Climb
+ Jump

The Stat Buffing Spells
+ Fox's Cunning
+ Eagle's Splendor
+ Bear's Endurance
+ Bull's Strength
+ Owl's Wisdom
+ Cat's Grace

And then, of course, if you want to get really nutty, there's Greater Spell Immunity. Which will give you TOTAL immunity to a single spell below 8th level. So while you will need a TON of beads, you could technically get immunity to a HUGE range of magical spells.

This is all just off the top of my head though. If you really dig into the side books and Dragon Articles you can find some really kick ass stuff.

>>51621238
I'll try to help out here. Best explanation that I have is the following. The place. The Monsters. They don't really exist, well not how the Jumper does anyway. They are representations of the flaws of an Item that has already been made. For each monster you kill an imperfection is erased, making the weapon better, now there are some that you're going to want to save, Specialists who are basically the exceptional parts of an Item made manifest, but for the most part you are reforging the Item by going into it's Item World. Don't feel bad you're just like a blacksmith beating the steel to push out impurities.

>>51621122
Go to Hero BBS, make your own magic system that lets you do whatever you need on top of enchanting, then enchant your beads.

>>51621421
Theres a custom magic system option in bbs?

>>51621427
There isn't, he's just being a twat.

>>51621397
To slightly add to this here are some things

Basic Defensive Spells
+ Bulwark of Reality (Need your Truename for this but it stacks with other stuff)
+ Protection from Arrows
+ Blink
+ Blur

I'm considering buying multiple housing attachments for my warehouse, just so that companions have multiple places to dwell and aren't necessarily stuck up in each other's business all the time.

>>51621335

Just take your time with whatever you're working on, kouhai.

>>51621427
He means using the world details, because Hero BBS doesn't set what worlds are possible, so you can create your own, and basically you can do whatever you want with the magic of that world. It's like a generic jump except more detailed.

>>51621238
From a gameplay standpoint? No. In fact, unless your objective is to grind EXP or money, then killing the monsters serves no purpose. The only ones you need to kill to improve the item stats are the bosses (i.e. the Item Generals/Kings/Gods/whatever) and also rescue the Innocents and level them up. Killing the mobs on the normal floors doesn't improve the item so barring special circumstances you should always skip instead of clear.

>>51620857
>anime
The jump is based on the manga, and the manga is so much worse. For reference? Asura is a Great Old One. Yes, really.

>>51620381
>Hope Rides Alone (+300)
Isnt Shocker a world wide organization? it feels a bit low on the price

>>51621504
Do you need to kill the Bosses or can you just KO them?

... actually are Item monsters/bosses/innocents even sapient or are they just "holodeck" type constructs?

>>51621547
There's nothing to suggest that they aren't sapient, especially considering you can capture them as units.

>>51621547
Pretty sure you have to kill them.

And I have no idea. They talk to you, though. So they at least have some kind of intelligence or some impressive VI. The monsters never talk, however. And they kill any Innocents that they find.

>>51621457
Are you looking for suggestions?
Dark Cloud 2's Settlement is a place that could get you somewhere to put folks to normal human levels but they can be in the settlement.
Uncharted Waters has an option where as long as they don't get off the boat they'll be able to be on the boat, hang the companion limit (To use a slightly nautical term here).
I think there's another city, which you can import stuff like all of your properties into to get normal copies of those things in that city, in 1984 Jump.
There may be more but that's all I can remember as of right now.

>>51621547
>... actually are Item monsters/bosses/innocents even sapient or are they just "holodeck" type constructs?
You can store them in your In-Game Party Spot and take them out of the Item World but you also can create their kind whole cloth from Mana so... no idea.

>>51621538

>Isnt Shocker a world wide organization?

Point. Will think about it

>>51621495
I'm working on First/Next.

Is slow. I get bursts of inspiration, then I look at another part of the jump, and I got nada.

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>>51621444
You wouldn't be able to stack Bulwark of Reality and Greater Mage Armor, as both count as "armor" bonuses.

Likewise, Blur wouldn't stack with Displacement since both are "concealment" type bonuses.

I didn't include Blink because the 20% miss chance it gives to your own attacks and spells, but it also counts as a "concealment" type and wouldn't stack.

Protection from Arrows is a good catch though. I forgot about that one. It would even work against modern bullets to a point.

>>51621318
>>51621334
>>51621415
>>51621504
>>51621547
>>51621567
>>51621584
>>51621603
Thanks, anons. That was extremely helpful.

>>51621684
>that neck tie
Oh jesus fuck why.

>>51621740
That's part of the classic girl's uni holy fuck I almost missed it.

>>51621740
Yorokonde has shit tast, news at 11.

>>51621740
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>51621740
Are you looking at the tie or the piercing?

>>51621740

You also forgot about the eyes looking like he took them from a picture and tried to photoshop them in

>>51621684
>>51621740
Meh. Still doesn't beat floor tiles or Ohio.

>>51621684
Bulwark of Reality is a Deflection type AC bonus so it stacks.

I did goof on The concealment types though.

Yep anything that can't be called toodamnbig.

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>>51621796
Man, if you've got to wait until 11 to get that news, you've /way/ behind the times.

Though, honestly, I don't care for the piercing either. But demons tend to have odd piercings and I rather like it for an example of that.

>>51621877
Nevermind I dun goofed on the Bulwark of Reality, broke out my old books to check afterwards. Bulwark is a better AC boost than Mage Armor though.

>>51621893
Yeah, she looks great but those piercings are horrible.

>>51621893
Well... I like the horns at least. But that's just because I have a thing for horns

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>>51621925
Clone Stamp tool, my niggah.

>>51621951
Sold move, anon. Ten points to the house of your choice.

>>51620735
I thought taking both Alucard's Embrace and Holy Empowerment was a BAD idea, doesn't the holy energy burn you up if your a vampire?

Though it might be different because you bought it with CP.

>>51621684
>>51621796
>>51621893

Yorokonde appears to have excellent taste.

Also, a Build!
Jump 101: Rick and Morty
Identity
Alias: Jane Doe
Age: 1157
Sex: Female
Drop-In
Perks
The Devil You Know--followers don't mind me being evil so long as treat them nice
A Price for Everything--can curse objects, affects object's user. more effective with ironic curses.
Voodoo Crap Magic--can enchant objects, more effective with fitting enchantments.
Hidden Wavelength--only appear on sensors when choose to, easily pass as harmless child
Items
Particle Beam Wristwatch--exactly what it says on the tin, plus a bottomless snake holster.
Ice Cream Machine--produces ridiculous variety of flavors, including "worm."
Concentrated Dark Matter--recipe for most powerful fuel in universe, made from common-ish materials.

I should probably find a way to watch this show. I have no idea what I'm doing. Ad-libbing it is!

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>>51622016
For you:
http://www.toonova.net/rick-and-morty

It's actually a pretty great show.

>>51621925
>>51621936
Love comes in all shapes, sizes, and skin colors. We must accept love in all its forms.

>>51620965
>making them
I read a perk combo that utilized Final Casting and Stored Magic from Maoyuu, basically, use up your mana supply on one uber spell, store, do that two more times. You now got three strong as fuck spells stored up, now put that in a cantrap from Obsidian Trilogy, you now have a stocked up spell that was casted with essentially three times your entire mana pool. Make sure you got Safety Forst from Cardcaptor to not get wiped out in the fallout. The only downside to this is that their used up once you use them, so you gotta make more.

You could just use Ensoul from Cardcaptor to make items in the shape of beads. that use the magic powers you like. Just connect them to leylines or some mana generators to assure their always perfect.

>>51622016
Here you go Jane http://watchcartoonsonline.eu/rick-and-morty-season-1-2-full-episodes/ if it's for the worldbuilding then you've gotta watch it.

>>51622082
>>51622085
hot diggity. how illegal are these?

Also, yay for the new Mershark.

>>51621974
Well she has the perk from Lunar Legend Tsukihime that makes you resistant to weaknesses like that. Also yeah I thought that you shouldn't be hurt by a combination if you purchase it. If I find out differently I'll tweak my build.

>>51622082
Pffft. As if I haven't had shark soup before.

Are there any perks to automatically scale a bow's draw weight to your strength?

>>51622117
The site or the show?
The site has existed for at least a couple years without problems.
The Show is an Adult Swim show so... prepare for lots of blood, drugs, swearing and crimes against humanity.

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>>51622117
Not very. They're previously aired episodes. It's not like you're watching something that's been leaked ahead of time.

>>51622162
A man after my own heart.

what is the fastest single perk in jumpchain and what would the world around you look like if you moved at mach 20

>>51622117
You're not gonna get v&. It's not worth the gubmint's dollar to track down each person who uses those sites. It's easier to just squash the site. I've been using sites like that for years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMhfbLRoGEw

>>51622356
I believe Arrowverse Speed Force still holds the best at a mach 40 cap.

>>51622390
Nah man Hyper Clock up.

>>51622356
Fastest single speed perk is probably speedforce in Arrowverse.
Mach 40 Soft cap is pretty great, and that is a soft cap so if you dedicate yourself you can go even faster.

You can go faster with time perks like Lunar Dial, but those aren't actually go fast perks so they dont' count.

There's also training things like Dragonball ki or Naruto chakra to go really fucking fast, but those aren't perks in themselves either so I'm not sure if you'd count them.

If you moved at mach 20 the world would be a blur, but if you thought at the speed to make moving at mach 20 seem normal then things would be very slow indeed.

>>51622084
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hly2YQiLASs

Excuse me are you talking about my Kill Anything Combo?

Because what you mentioned is nice and I'm adding them in.

So that would be:
Talimancer (Overlord [LN/M/A]) stores spells in physical objects + The Abyss of Magic (Overlord [LN/M/A]) makes any spell able to grow beyond its limits via time & effort + Sting (Worm) bypasses the physical defenses, up to and including dimensional quackery + Balefire (Wheel of Time) to unmake the target's existence + Magic Must Defeat Magic (Jackie Chan) makes it bypass any non-magical powers these things are using + Warring Warlock cancels/erodes their magical defenses + Anathema (SMITE) defnese reduction + Blessing of Stravhs (The Banner Saga).would create an attack that kills perma-dead + Conjoined Conjures (Cardcaptor Sakura) to make the magic play nice + Safety First (Cardcaptor Sakura) so that if it ever was used against me/Reflected/etc it wouldn't work full stop+ Final Casting (Demon King Maoyuu) for the full full weight of my magic behind each spell

Always happy to see an upgrade for this old thing.

>>51622129
>you shouldn't be hurt by a combination if you purchase it

Depends on the wording. E.g. if you buy "you are now a kryptonian" and "you now produce kryptonite gas", you really didn't think that combo through. But if your first purchase had the note "but you don't have to worry about kryptonite" then you're good to go (instead of dead).

>>51622410
Does that really count? There's some serious time dialation in there and it's an armor ability rather than a flat speed perk.
I suppose if you were a Worm in that jump it might count though.

What effect would shouting in Correspondence have to the monsters in Lovecraft? Or in the Sabaton Jump, when you're playing the concert?

>>51622411
>If you moved at mach 20 the world would be a blur, but if you thought at the speed to make moving at mach 20 seem normal then things would be very slow indeed.
Like bullets would crawl along at one tenth your speed. If you're running at top speed at twenty it would be like going past someone on crutches.

>>51622164
Not a Perk, but Bride Stories as a 400 CP Nomad Bow that's full draw strength is arbitrarily set to be the most the wielder can pull.

Now take the Perk from Lost Odyssey that lets you gain the abilities if items from prolonged use.

>>51622164
Not that I've found, much to my disappointment. I had to upgrade my Collapsi-bow myself.

>>51622338
I know of the show, just don't have cable.

>>51622355
neat.

>>51622365
What's a vampersand?

>>51622462
Right next to banned/band/b&?

>>51622462
>vampersand
It means vanned. As in the FBI party Van.

Lurk more.

>>51622365
Lazytown is one of those settings I'm surprised no one has done yet, especially given how popular the memes are recently.

>Intro is Jumpchan telling you that jumping is entirely too much work and that you should stop
>Gives you 1000 Cheese Puffs and tells you to go watch TV
>Robbie's wig falls off and then you get a real intro

>>51622479
Ah. Is that the beat up white van that says Free Candy? That's been hanging around my neighborhood recently.

was joke. bad one.

>>51622504
I'm pretty sure there is one. Or somebody was working on one.

Of course, that could have been a fever dream

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>http://www.rollingstone.com/tv/news/battlestar-galactica-star-richard-hatch-dead-at-71-w465680

Richard Hatch, Apollo from original Battlestar Galactica and Tom Zarek from nuBSG, died today. He was 71 years old.

>>51622356
>what would the world around you look like if you moved at mach 20

Assuming a typical Earth-like world and RL physics? It would be at least partially obscured by the hypersonic plasma shockwave formed by your body colliding with the air molecules with sufficient friction to produce visible light - and a lot of heat - as a byproduct (maybe even ultraviolet, but that would require me to do more math than I care about). This is assuming you have the durability upgrades to survive and optic upgrades to process it, of course.

>>51622572
Fever dream, that is the very first I've heard of it.

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When he started to get actually super powers, my Jumper gave himself the goal to leave every world he visits better then how it would have been if he didn't visit.
So, what would need to be done to make Va-11 hall-a a better world?


Also, general question for entertainment. What is something you have done to cheer up your companions when they're feeling down or vice versa?

>>51622559
My neighborhood actually does have a beat up white van that says Free Candy, and it's often left parked in the vacant lot next to the local school.

Does anyone know how many SP Joan of Arc would be in Fate?

>>51622719
Which version?

>>51622719
Normal, Alter, or Santa?

>>51622649
>What is something you have done to cheer up your companions when they're feeling down or vice versa?
Using teleportation to pop them over to another country for fine dining on their lunch break.

>>51622745
>>51622755
Uhhh. All of them?

>>51622774
>not taking them on a pan-continental pubcrawl
>not draining at least four metropolises of anything vaguely alcoholic

In retrospect, we may have a problem.

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>>51622420
I heard of your Kill Anything Build, but I never saw it posted in the thread, I got that combo from another anon a while ago, maybe it was you posting without the name? They also included the Mage line perk in Ragnarok Online, only reason I didn't include it was because it weakens the gestalted spell a little in its perk effect.
But if your still loking for ways to imprive the Dota 2 Jump has two potential add-ons. One being Shadow Priest

>Additionally, the strange truths gleaned from your journey to the ethereal realms has given you the enlightenment needed to combine diametrically opposite abilities and internalize seemingly incompatible ideas. Where any person would simply fail over and over in trying to weave enchantments of protection and enchantments of enfeeblement into one cohesive spell, you alone are able to create a singular sorcery which intelligently aids your allies while cursing enemies.

and the other being the Multicast perk, which if I'm reading correctly, would allow you to potentially cast the spell 2-4 times in a single instant. The only thing I'm confused about would be whether you have to pay the entire cost or just the initial first cost, maybe SMTanon can weigh in?

>>51622431
Well the problem is that generating holy energy yourself isn't an attack. They only take extra damage from attack. They don't take damage just from the presence of it. Also as I said that because of the perk from Tsukihime She takes less extra damage, so she is probably good.

Out of curiosity, has there been any word on MCU-2?

>>51623013
Is it really that hard to go look back in previous threads or even search the archives.

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>>51622907
> I got that combo from another anon a while ago, maybe it was you posting without the name?
Nah I hadn't have thought to incorporate Final Casting in yet, thanks for that.

>Shadow Priest
Neat but how does it improve the Kill Anything Combo in question?

>Multicast
Oh that sounds awesome! I'll have to speak with SMTanon about that!

Anyone got any suggestions for my Jumper's next build? I'm kinda floating right now, though Bastion is tempting me a bit.

The Jumps so far: http://pastebin.com/qpNRZXfy

>>51622082
>>51622085
Also, thanks friends. I am enjoying this show.

>>51622649
Usually it's some form of food or affection. Chisame likes cheesecake and we rib her about stereotypes. Emmy is a sucker for headpats, and Chartreuse always enjoys me winding her up.

>>51622671
That...someone should look into that.

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Will the Pokemon Jump be updated for Alola at some point?

>>51623073
See: >>51623031

>>51623073
For the 27th time. No.
If you really want to go there in the jump nothing is stopping you though.
If you're worried about the alternate timeline bogus just roll kalos.
Not like it matters where you roll since the jump is a mishmash of anime and games, but if you're the kind of person that cares it's an option.

>>51623073
There is someone who is considering making a new jump for Sun/Moon since it is a separate universe from what's covered in the existing Pokemon jump.

Not sure if anything will come of that though.

So for someone who has never seen the anime or played the games how bad is Gunnm? How much worse is it if you take the last order drawback?

>>51623058
>Shadow Priest
Looking at it, your combo works quite well for for all types of magic, I mean, a final casted healing or debuff spell would be dangerous as hell. So indeed while the perk may not further increase your "fuck your durability" it adds another layer to the combo. Because now that same uber spell you have that fucking erases your opponents is now mixed with a spell that has enough power to ressurect armies and turn humans into tanks due to stat boosts, all in one spell, and the spell will intelligently boost allies and kill enemies.

Just something I'd take if given the chance. Not necessarily a "kill anything" perk, more of a sub-skill that could help expand its parameters.

>>51622907
>>51623058
As the perk itself states, you still need to pay the actual mana costs of the multicasted spells, but you bypass any other casting limitations such as casting times, cooldowns, or non-standard prices (such as material components or sacrifices).

Also, any of the Megaman jumps might be cool, although I find Classic and Zero the most fun to build for.

>>51623013
Not happening, anon. Jumpmaker ragequit over the dragonball jumps.

>>51622826
If you just want Jeanne then you could summon her Ruler version as a Saber and drop God's Resolution and True Name Discernment.

In that case she costs 2,050SP, at least if my calculation is right.

>>51623194
Cyberpunk Fist of the North Star to begin with, but once they get to space things escalate majorly. At that point it becomes early DBZ levels of danger. Last Order means you're going to space, and you will encounter those threats.

>>51623247
Ah, alright, thanks a bunch SMTAnon. The jumps amazing by the way, I've never been so pressed for points in my entire chain, for both myself, companion imports and buying companions themselves.

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>>51622649
Va-11 Hall-A is a pretty great place as it is. That said, there's some civil violence problems and a general scarcity of resources that could be addressed.

Each Companion has their own needs and I try to keep them in mind when they're feeling down.

Raven enjoys a cup of tea or hot chocolate, depending on the weather, and usually prefers some time alone to decompress. So I'll do her share of the chores or cook a meal even though it's her turn.

Frisk usually just needs a good hug and a few reassuring words to feel better. When things are particularly awful, I'll make a Butterscotch-Cinnamon pie for her. Yes, of course I learned the recipe.

Muffet, despite putting on an air of not really caring about my attention, really perks up when I take time out of whatever I'm doing to spend time specifically with her. She likes tennis and board games. A competitive and active activity usually works best for cheering her up.

Rip Van Winkle... well... I don't think I've ever actually seen her sad. Though occasionally she's track me down and ask me, very sweetly, for a kiss. I think it's rather sweet but I've learned not to make a big deal about it.

>>51623194
GUNNM is primarily a manga titled Battle Angel Alita and Battle Angel Alita: Last Order. The second is a split from the main universe, the branching off point happening half-way through the last book of the first series.

It's... not a tremendously fun universe to live in. It's extremely violent on the surface and extremely 1984 in Tipenhares, the colony that floats over the primary city. The technology level is just off the scales bonkers, with a majority of people being androids or at least partially cybernetically-enhanced.

I'd really recommend reading the first few manga to get a feel for the setting. It's honestly very unique and hard to describe.

http://mangafox.me/manga/battle_angel_alita/

Don't take Last Order unless you want to go to space and deal with shonen-levels of escalation.

>>51623261
Go home anon >>167700819, they're calling omo.

>>51623073
No. But as soon as I get a goddamn vacation, or any other occasion where I can sit down for more than 30 minutes, I will play Sun/Moon, and make the jump I promised for it.

And I asked Quicksilver about it when he popped up to give heavens a thumbs up, but he probably left immediately afterwards and didnt see.

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>>51623234
Thanks for th clarification. Yeah, the Kill Anything basically could be turned into a Heal Anything but a few things in it aren't needed, I'll have to gut the thing so I can get my Generic Overboosted Spell Combo out of it at some point.

>>51623247
Thanks for weighing in SMTAnon.

Megaman sounds fun. Do they have continuity Drawbacks?

>>51623328
Why don't you just ask him on IRC and screencap it if you really want it that bad?

>>51623287
>>51623297
Thank you both, I'll have to consider all of that and do a bit of research.

>>51623350
He IRC's? Ive been in a few times, but I've never seen him.

>>51623370
He owns the IRC anon.
It would be very hard for him not to be in there.

>>51622649
I throw a large drinking party, we get absolutely wasted, and then, in the wee hours of the morning after while they're still hungover, I say just the right thing necessary to snap them out of whatever's got them down. Or I arrange and manipulate events so that they hear whatever they need from whoever needs to say it.

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>>51623370
He goes by Artie.

>>51623370
He's in the IRC as Artie.

>>51623434
Damn that's an old cap.

>>51623434
>SJ-Chan
Wow SJ-Chan is still in their IRC?

>>51623414
>>51623434
>>51623435
...

Well.

>>51623450
No, she hasn't appeared in months. Apparently she left it when she got criticized for how she was running Xenogears/Xenosaga.

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>>51622355
Hey, I was checking out the Zootopia Jump, and I notice a few parts of the Districts section hat don't quite match up to the official map. It just kinda bugged me, and I was hoping you could check it out, or something.

District 4 – Savanna Central
Rename it to Canyonlands. (Apparently Savanna Central is just a part of Downtown)

District 9 – Timberland Grove
Rename to Canal District, and mostly rework the description.

District 10 – Swamplands
Rename to Marshlands?

District 13 - Meadowlands
Probably remove "Another unofficial District of Zootopia"

10 and 13 are just nitpicks, really. The other two are the ones that actually matter.


District 9 - Canal District
This District is home to water filtration plants, hydro-electric power generators, as well as sustainable logging. Whether to take advantage of the picturesque scenery, the refreshing shade, or simply to stay close to their place of work, some even choose to make their homes here as well, despite all the noise from the machinery. Many of the homes are built in and around the trees themselves with roads winding between the trees in dizzying curves off the main highways.

>>51623495
>No, she hasn't appeared in months.
For a moment I thought you were talking about a certain namefag and got really excited.

>>51623295
yee

haw

>>51623342
I don't think so. Though, I've always fanwanked the worlds being connected, due to the way the Shining Weapon's import works and the hard plot hook towards ZX in Zero via the Researcher capstone at least alluding to the idea of interconnectivity. Except for when I made too many waves for the plot to stay coherent, anyway.

>>51623529
Wakfu or Brows?

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>>51623342
Megaman doesn't have continuity drawbacks, but it's implied at least a little that it still is connected.
I guess you can go whichever way you want.

Do Zero before X to derail X's plot to unprecedented levels by introducing cyber elves early. What the fuck is a Maverick virus anyways?

>>51623540
He's shitposting about hoping it was Red.

>>51623568
I completely misread that and thought he was a saying a namefag that left the IRC came back after several months

>>51623536
Are the 400+ CP Undead perks alt-forms? If not, do you have to take on the described appearance? If so, can the benefits be accessed in other forms?

>>51623540
Wakfuanon's jumps were mediocre, and Brows was apparently such a bitch that she tore one of her old IRC acquaintances a new one just for reminding her about /jc/. Oh, and she made mediocre jumps too. They're not really missed.

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>>51623536
>>51623560
Okay then I think I'll hit up Zero. However I need some information. I have tech, lots of tech but the big problems I'm going to have is the fact that my ECM (Electronic Counter Mesures) are only the best I could buy in Generator Rex and Dues Ex. I remember Megaman's cyberwarfare being absolutely brutal but I don't know enough about Generator Rex, just enough to buy what I wanted but I've only watched a dozen or so episodes, and Dues Ex, played through the first game years ago and I've played a few levels of the Human Revolution, to compare them to something I fanboy'd about once.

Can someone with the knowledge tell me how my current systems stand in relation to... welll the Maverick Virus for one and Sigma for another?

>>51623586
They're supposed to define what specific type of undead you are (other than some generic unliving person), but the perks are not altforms by themselves (well, if you're not Undead then they'll still change whichever altform you got in Dota 2, but you get the idea).

You can still use the effects of said perks outside of the relevant altform, but I imagine some of the effects might be a bit awkward if you don't look the part.

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>>51623663
Really, if you're going to shitpost, can you at least post the right picture?

>>51623434
>someone uses my screencap from ages ago
This is a weird feeling, I didn't even think someone would have saved it. I deleted it after I posted it the first time.

>>51623678

>Can someone with the knowledge tell me how my current systems stand in relation to... welll the Maverick Virus for one and Sigma for another?

Not sure. Megaman tech is basically at the 'this looks like weird magic' level.

Although unless I'm remembering incorrectly it's irrelevant. I'm fairly sure the Maverick Virus and Sigma is gone by the time of Zero.

>>51623678
Maverick Virus is a non issue in Zero.
It's almost if not totally gone, they killed it by hacking reality until it didn't exist anymore.

If you went to X though I really couldn't tell you. Maverick Virus just ups and reality warps when if feels like. So don't bring anything with an AI you want to keep. Outside of the MV though there's not really a lot of stuff like that around. Sure Cyberspace is wierd and you can enter it to do things in computers, but it's not like there's hyper malware that you can't shoot back at.

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>>51623355
Glad to help out. It's actually one of my favorite series, well, the original series is. Last Order really feels like it was cross-bred with DBZ for no real reason and the fighting just goes on forever.

>>51623518
Well, that's certainly a better map than the ones I was drawing from when I build that poor Jump. I guess that's what I get for building the thing while it was still in theaters. Your suggestions are all good and I'll work them into Zootopia when I eventually update/rework it. Goodness knows that poor Jump needs it.

>>51623759
Big thank. It's actually one of my favourite jumps, mostly because of that whole intro sequence.

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>>51623727
I've long learned that lesson anon but it seems you need a reminder.

Never. Ever. Assume that Sigma is down permanently, EVER!

>>51623752
>they killed it by hacking reality until it didn't exist anymore.
This is the kind of stuff I remember as a child just going, "Neat!" and then looking back on it as an young adult and going "How the fuck?!"

Still not assuming Sigma is down and out though. Never gonna do that.

>>51623687
How can you expect him to use images when he does low effort shitposts? Even Starcraft General in /vg/ has better shitposting than him, and most of their posts are "lel omo" "gook gook" and "Scarlet best grill"

What qualifies as "three intimately connected mundane skills" for The Young Prodigy in WOD Mortals? That seems fairly subjective, and I want to know how close they need to be.

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>>51623685
Thanks. Also...

>600 CP drawback cap

Why senpai.

Question about Practical Guide to Evil,
Naming Perk and crafting Names.
Can I do stuff like Crafting Names for Costumed Heroes like Batman and The Phantom where whoever is the current Hero gets the name, and in cases of multiple claimants the one who is the designated successor of the most established lineage get the Name, followed by whoever has the most of prior Heroes stuff, (Like anyone who Bruce named the next Bat gets first dibs, or whoever has a previous Phantoms ring has a Stronger claim.)

Or on the other side, make a Ras Al Ghul name that goes to to anyone calling themselves that, with whoever has been in the Lazarus Pit the most getting priority in case of multiple claimants.

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>>51621262
Aw, thanks BLADE! It's really nice to get complements...they keep these jumpmaking gears oiled and pleasantly churning!

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>>51623794
I appreciate that. I worked hard on that intro and a lot of the fluff, but I do think the Perks need a bit of a rework. The Drawbacks did turn out nicely at least. Rather proud of them.

>>51623797

>I've long learned that lesson anon but it seems you need a reminder.

>Never. Ever. Assume that Sigma is down permanently, EVER!

No that's the lesson for the X series. Just like Wily returning if the lesson for the original series.

The lesson for the Megaman series as a whole is to abandon all hope because the world will get worse.

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>>51623838

>>51623031

Well, seeing as I've searched all the Jumpchain threads in the archive and I didn't really see anything about MCU-2 (mostly just stuff about Dragon Ball, Exalted, and Superman); I'll say yes?

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>>51623797
Sigma is ded as well. He's been dead since X8, but actually for good this time. They killed his soul to make sure. Also of note, Reploids have souls.
If he is miraculously still around you might maybe be able to find him in the reploid heaven part of cyberspace you aren't actually allowed to go to, but I don't really think he'd be maverick man anymore.

As for reality hacking that's kind of what cyber elfs do. They adjust variables in the cyberspace part of the world reflecting what they want to work on, and then reality changes to accomidate. The Mother elf just did this a whole lot wherever the Maverick Virus was until there wasn't any left. With the exception of what Zero has, because he needs that to live. Although after his hibernation and body replacement it might be gone? It's not really clear.

The person you're going to want to look out for in the Zero series is Weil. He's an asshole and immortal so punt him into the sun once he shows up before he genocides everyone. The energy crisis is an easy fix for a Jumper so it shouldn't last unless you really want it to.

>>51623948
She has grad school anon. It'll be done when it's done.

>>51623894
Yeah, the Drawbacks were pretty fantastic. I'm usually a big baby who's too scared to use any Drawbacks because I want my Jump to go as smoothly as possible, but those ones sounded so interesting I was actually pretty tempted to take some of them.

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Rolled 7 (1d8)

Moar Stalwart Tiger Adventures!

Last Time: We went to Ciel Nosurge and learned some Song Sorcery, then we went to Soul Eater and went full Rip N Tear on Clowns. Also Ammy got imported as a Weapon, and it was left mysterious who ended up wielding her.

1.Devil Survivor 1
2.Kamen Rider Kabuto
3.Exalted:Mortals(Houserule:Keep Exalt based powers)
4.Blazblue
5.Wakfu
6.Geneforge
7.Half-life
8.Dragonball Z

>>51623974
>Head Crabs
Will I be crucified if I say I've never played a Half-life game?

>>51623856
Can someone have more then one name, like if there is a Rightful King of England, that goes to whoever pulls a certain Sword from a Stone, and it gets pulled by some with a Name?

>>51623864
You're welcome.

I'm thinking about trying to do Shadow Dragon, but I already have too much stuff. That and you kinda accidentally made yourself fireemblemanon.

Anyways, for summoning specialization, does it only work by personality types, or could I make it 'archers' or 'healers'?

Beyond that, suggestion time.

The royalty capstone seems... Lackluster. I can see why it is what it is, but the two powers, by themselves, don't seem impressive to me.

For an item for royalty, how about a fountain that flows gold? Or other stuff. You know, the mission one. Might need a limit or two, but should be good.

For the drop in capstone, would a learning/leveling perk work? An inversion of the games anti-grinding features.

That's all I got.

>>51623989
I've never played it either, to be honest. Only Valve game I ever played was Portal.