Warhammer 40k General - /40kg/

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FIRST FOR THE DARK GODS!

Anon why do you hate fun? where did the ork/nidfag touch you?

Second for the Machine God

>>51600888
TRIPS OF TRUTH

>>51600888
Khorne approves of this post!

>>51600879
I can't bring myself to plan that well

Repost from last thread. Looking for ways to turn greyfax into a rape cannon with witch fire. Is there any way for imperial armies to consistently lower the leadership of enemy units?

For those who don't know, witch fire is range 18, you roll 3d6 and subtract enemy units ld, they take that many wounds with no saves allowed. They get invulnerable saves tho I believe

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Now I know everyone always thinks Cult Mechanicus sucks in Kill Team

BUT HOW ABOUT THIS SPICY TECH CHOICE?

>>51600888
Everytime i see chaos marines I picture them describing to slaves how they want their armor to look

>more spikes omg I love spikes
>could you put more screaming faces on it?
>Did I say I wanted horns on this helmet!!! What am I an iron warrior?

Asked at the tail end of last thread

Are there any leaks for the new eldar formations that are more clear. Going by the preorder bundles, I own everything needed to make the reborn warhost, soul bound vanguard, and ynneads net. The war host and vanguard, with upgrades, add up to 2000 points. Looks a bit weak without more transports though

>>51600888
Khorne pls go. We only follow the greater good here

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>>51600956
Are slaves trusted with their armor? In the case of Word Bearers at least their armor simply changes due to exposure to the Warp. Apparently they hardly (if ever) remove their armor and eventually it fuses to their body and melds with it.

>>51600888
>dem digits

>>51600843
>Actual TotD because nobody ever seems to actually do this
Fuck you, I did.

>ending the embed chain
Why do you hate fun, OP?

>>51600972
see >>51600912

>>51600939
>5 models
>grav
kek'd

>>51600972
The warhost is just the "units from any eldar faction" detachment, much like the castellans (assumedly)
The warhost gives re-rolls on the warlord table, stubborn, no shooting morale tests if you end the phase within 7" of a friendly unit, and 2 units can soulburst from a single death, instead of just

>>51600930
Well, its mainly a matter of finding a theme and sticking to it.

For example, part of my Chaos Warband is really focused on vehicles, machines, and tech heresy, so all of them have meltaguns where the option exists. All the various squads and vehicles stem from the Warp Smith's plans.

>>51600956
While it HUGELY depends on the warband in question, Chaos Marines generally adorn their armor with their trophies and gear personally, as letting a slave touch their trophies is absolutely unthinkable. Most also still venerate their armor and wargear to some degree, simply because they basically live in it. Slaves may do basic maintenance, but they don't do any of the "big things".

Again, though, depends hugely on the warband. Some warbands may view their gear as tools and little else, allowing slaves to do pretty much all of the actual work.

Across all codices, what is the most effective Terminator unit/loadout/tactic?

>>51601083
Spamming single man Deathwatch termites with various special weapons or melta powerfists

>>51601083
Just the unit on it own?
I'm partial to say deathwing terminators, fearless can sometimes hurt them but with split fire and twin-linked on deep strike they're quite effective.

Course i'm less familiar with terminators outside them and blood angels.

>>51601083
Using deathwing knights as a shooty unit.

>>51601083
Probably death wing, most cases shooting load outs, and I think they're most effective at creating distractions or supporting fire behind the front line

>>51601083
They vary too much between marines, CSM, and deathwatch.

For CSM- MSU with 3 combi-meltas and axes to hopefully pop a tank and earn their points back.

Marines- TH/SS deathstar

Deathwatch- shooty

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Are Daemon Princes allowed to retain whatever position they had in a warband if they wish?

Like if a Chaos Sorcerer turned Daemon Prince wishes to retain his (subordinate) position as his Chaos Lord's adviser, is his Lord going to go for that or is he getting the boot in favor of someone else due to how fickle Daemons are?

>>51601050
I'd like to find a theme but It feels like flexibility is too important to commit around.

>>51601185
Depends on the position they want, i would not trust a daemon prince to be the head chef.

>>51601185
A lot of princes have trouble maintaining their form in real-space. In the IW omnibus, the chaos lord that ascends starts to fade into the warp.

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>>51601185
If the Chaos Lord is the leader of his respective warband and becomes a daemon prince then yes, he can most certainly use the great power he's been given to continue his rule over the army.

But as for the situation you described, I doubt any right minded Chaos Lord is going to want his second in command/adviser/whatever to continue sticking around after he's been given the immense power of daemonhood. That'll just lead to him with a warped claw through his back at some time or another.

When you oversee an army of bloodthirsty killers that are seeking the favor of daemon gods it doesn't do well to have others just as or more powerful than you right below you on the chain of command.

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>>51600939

Oh hi.

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>>51601254

>the chaos lord that ascends starts to fade into the warp

I heard that was one reason why Abaddon refused the gift of Ascension over 11 times in the past lore.

>>51601306
And his hatred of weakness, doesn't get much weaker than relying on divine favour just to exist.

>>51601251
Well, part of that is why I segmented my Warband into effectively being three separate ones teaming up. Thus I have a bit of flexibility in theme and can add stuff in in a way that makes sense

>>51601306
I'm pretty sure it's just because he doesn't want to lose his free will and become a slave.

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>>51601402

> he doesn't want to lose his free will and become a slave

So the eventual fate of Horus had he survived the Heresy?

Also, is that a Traitor Knight with the Oblitorator Virus in the background behind Kelbor-Hal in this image?

Thinking of pic related for a Chaos conversion. Figures I could use her for a pretty nice Slaanesh Prince, though I'm less sure what the beetle would fit well as.

Any suggestions for giant chaos MCs?

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Reminder that Knight Gerantius has NO STRENGTH as a walker, and must therefore be immediately removed from play the moment the game starts.

http://is2.4chan.org/tg/1486410903791.pdf

>CSM Havoks boxes are the only source of CSM autocannons
>fail cast
>out of stock
>$45
>only comes with one anyway

Guess I should remake my list

>>51601475
Wasn't Horus already a thrall to Chaos after being mindfucked on Davin? When the Emperor severed his connection he was remorseful.

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>>51601475
>knight
twin missile pods, beetleback carapace, c'mon man

that image pre-dates the redesigned knights a good deal

>>51601475
>is that a Traitor Knight with the Oblitorator Virus
Might just me a face mounted cannon, it is a machine after all so design is only down the the magos imagination.

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>>51601485
And forgot pic, of course.

>>51601543
Sell the beetle to a nid player.

>>51601516
can't advise on which, but did you thought about proxy ?

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>>51601509
He has no listed Strength stat, which is entirely different from having S0 or S-. Cease this autism.

Worst case, his RAW prevents him from making use of HoW and being unable to strike blows if his sword is disarmed by Eldar faggotry, but that's it. And this only applies at all if you, the opponent, are an absolute douchenozzle.

>>51601516
Forgeworld has two different models, if that aint' good enough you've chosen it for yourself.

>>51601561

I try to keep things as official as possible, and most proxies I've seen are floating around $5-10 for a single weapon. Hell, FW charges $20 for a set before shipping.

>>51601543
maulerfiend

>>51601573

They come with FW price tags, which is the main problem.

>>51601575
>>51601579
>complaining about FW prices
>when it's literally like half as expensive as buying Havocs for one cannons/set
You don't deserve autocannons

>>51601516
Juggernaught of kho- oh wait

>>51601575
If you got Guard player in your area, I'm pretty sure they got a few left from their heavy weapons squad.

Just add a few skulls, spike and other greenstuff made ornament and it should do the trick I guess.

>>51600888
Khornate Word Bearers are canon! My Dudes are redeemed!

>>51601556
Don't know any sadly

>>51601576
I thought Maulerfiends were smaller than that?

>>51601475
Why does abaddon keep a guy on fire around?

>>51601595
>IG
>Autocannons left over

Are you smoking the wacky tobaccy?

They've been the go-to heavy weapon for guard for a decade.

>>51601543
Can't say that there is much you can do with the model chaos-wise. I've got a friend who is using the beetle as one of the nid gargantous creatures, the elf on top is built like a lot of the AoS stuff, so it fits together really well, but it's all curved so unless you are amazing at greenstuffing, it's really hard to do anything to it

>>51601605
What makes you think he's Khornate?

>>51601589

$20 is absurd for 5 guns.

>>51601618
It's a Blood Angel. Considering he's next to Ahriman one can assume he's powering that Chaos discoball in the middle, perhaps.

>>51601634
It's a joke about anon getting triple 8's.

But there are Khornate WB in the canon anyways.

>>51601635
$16.21 according to Google when the money is translated(?).

>>51601635
>he doesn't remember the old days where heavy weapons were expensive blister packs
This hobby isn't for you if you think that's costly.

>>51601618
He's the Red Angel.

The Red Angel is a Daemon of Chaos which during the Horus Heresy possessed the body of Apothecary Meros of the Blood Angels during the Battle of Signus Prime.
The daemon was formed from the distilled rage of Brother-Captain Tagas, who had been believed lost on Murder[2a], which formed sentience in the process.

First Chaplain Erebus had planned to have Sanguinius become the daemon's host, with Kyriss the Perverse offering to free the Blood Angels of the Red Thirst forever if Sanguinius took the ragefire into himself, but Meros instead sacrificed himself so that Sanguinius would not.

The act freed the Blood Angels of the rage that had befallen them, but only a fraction of Meros remained alive, enough to tormented by his decision. The Red Angel admitted that the Chaos Gods had underestimated Sanguinius's resolve, but the Great Angel vowed that Meros would be spared one day, for no Blood Angel would die in silence.

>>51601684
>copypasting from the wiki
>doesn't even remove citations
>endorsing Red Angel memery
w e w

>>51601556

Fuck you, sell it to me, the AdMech player, and I'll turn that shit into a war machine.

>>51601700
I removed citations, just not all, as for memery that's your opinion.

>>51601615
Mauler find is on a 120 mm long flying base, that bug is one a round 160.

>>51601684
I really want this character to show up again to job to dante or the sangunior or something to finally lay Meros to rest. Even if it means another defeat for chaos i feel like He deserves to be freed

>>51601674

The fact that you don't is insane.

Seeing as that's the only option, which version is better? Legion or Kalibrax?

>>51601666

Plus shipping, Satan.

>>51601843
Legion a coolest
Kalibrax a easier to build

>>51601861

How does the legion one even work?

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>>51601014
Speaking of triggering fun, I MS Painted up some new generals.

>>51601807
Hmm...that doesn't sound like as big of a difference as I thought. Not sure if I like the idea of it being a vehicle, though I guess there aren't that many options.

>>51601833
Maybe when Angron comes on to the 40k table
Let him finally take the Red Angel name for himself, hell maybe Meros can die in a blaze of glory as he turns the Blood Angels wrath on the raging gods formost champion..

>>51601876
should be labeled general heresy

>>51601876
Sloppy, stamp should be slightly askew and overlap logo.

Also /40kg/ doesn't need help shitposting.

>>51601886
inb4 he actually turns the demon to his will and purifys the power and just becomes a burning beacon of righteousness for the BA. I want a character on fire dammit.

>>51601911
I DID say *blaze* of glory...

>>51601866
Belt fed, obviously.

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>>51601893
Probably.

>>51601910
Probably doesn't.

And again, MS Paint. Though 4chan has inspired a desire to start learning photoshop.

so whats the deal with bs 6+? most of the units that have it don't have blast weapons that would benefit from the scatter reduction, and the best you can hit on is 2+ with shooting. why does bs 6 and 7 exist?

Are there audio books in the BL mega? If so I cant seem to find them

>>51601936
>Though 4chan has inspired a desire to start learning photoshop.
Paint.net

It's how I do all my shit, slightly more pro but still free is GIMP.

>>51601950
Have you read the rulebook section on BS?

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>>51601934

I get that, thanks. What the fuck do I do with the box? How is it assembled?

>>51601083
IU'm a huge fan of the death guard termies.

Put them in the formation and they're t5, 2+/5++ 5+ FnP rerolling 1s.
Too tough to be chipped down with small arms fire, over a 50% chance to ignore an ap2 wound and even strength 10 ap2 has 1/3 chance to be ignored.

Give them power axes (maybe a hidden chain fist) and combi-plasmas/meltas and go to town.

Oh, and fearless and leadership 10 for free.

>>51601936
There is a surprisingly low amount of DEldar porn.

>>51601971
You gently heat the belts with warm water and attach them to the ports. The box goes on the back of the backpack, iirc.

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>>51601971

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>>51601876
>>51601936
>Tau btfo edition

>>51601967
dont own one, thats why im asking here

>>51602005
A culexus deployed against tau? Uhm...

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>>51602000

That sounds clunky

>>51602003

That looks clunky. It doesn't even look like it sits well compared to pic related, but I suppose the backpack could be more limiting to armor MKs

>>51602024
if you miss you get to roll again ->BS 6 reroll on a 6 is a hit, 7 on a 5 or 6 etc
its basically irrelevant due to only very few units getting that anyway

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>>51601957
I'll check those out.

>>51602005
Using official art is taboo. Although the fanart pool is getting pretty low.

>>51602066
oh ok, thats cool ty

>>51602005
this was extremely retarded, the tau should have had no problem dispatching a colexus. Who wrote this crap?

>>51601963
Didn't see new thread

>>51602047
It worked. He killed Tau Pope Aun'va, anyway.

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>>51602067
oh ok, no official art then. this ones simple enough

>orks have already won edition

>>51602055
making it fit was a piece of work. Do NOT recommend, buy something else if you can

>>51602047
>>51602081
>they don't actually know anything about the Culexus temple
Read a book niggers

>>51602047
>>51602081
I always thought it was a pretty badass picture. Aun'Va is just sitting there like "if you strike me down I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine"

>>51602047
>invisible to all living and electronic sensors
null power's OP as fuck when you have an etherium

>>51597117
>high-point GSC

It's a great time to take some IG allies with some cheap super-heavies.

Alternately, to run GSC alone, stock up on tanks to blast shit while your fuck-tons of squads in the Subterranean Uprising get those sweet sweet Ambush rolls.

It's a great time to run multiple Demolition Claws to re-roll scatter & throw bombs, plus Grinders fuck vehicles up hard.

Use multiple instances of formations in different force orgs to stack psychic dice with lots of maguses for summons & Mind Control.

>>51602127
The polar opposite of the fluff, as it happens.

>>51602110
>Read a book niggers
colexus should fuck anything that has a soul.
>Tau are souless shits

Oh snap!

>>51602160
Tell me, were you born stupid, or did you just grow up that way?

>>51602160
Why don't you read about the fucking Tau next since you clearly know as much about them as you do about the Culexus or psychic blanks.

>>51602160
tau have tiny soul not nosoul
wonder if crons should be immune at least some of them, especially canoptek

>>51602067
>MFW the proportions on those legs are the same as Girlyman's new model

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>>51602103
The memes have to be a biiiiiiit fresher.

>>51602176
Nuuuuh, reading the books is retarded, better to just go by rumours, memes and stuff I think sounds cool.

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>>51602190
Yeah, but I couldn't think of a clever way to put that in the filename.

I'm not feeling especially clever tonight.

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>>51602193
fresher memes eh

>riptide formations aren't cool edition

>>51602146
awww that ruins it for me. does he scream like a little bitch?

>>51602106

Go with the Kalibrax, then?

>>51602257
Yes. And he dies slowly. But is replaced by a hologram. And then admech set the space between the Damocles Gulf and the Tau Empire on fire.

Mont'ka is like a year old, now, man.

>>51602188

>wonder if crons should be immune at least some of them, especially canoptek

Though they are described as souless, apparently the D-Scythe weapons were known to scramble their engrams, so they might have something.

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New to Necrons.

Think I am running this for my first 1k points.

>>51602267
unless you like frustration or take a real liking in the models, yes

>>>51598547
How does Trazyn "collect" people and regiments?
Where does he store all this shit?
Are people in his collection kill?

>>51602334

I'm not particularly sold on the Legion one, anyway.

Might as well get the combi-weapon pack while I'm at it, though I'll probably never use the flamers.

>>51602380
Tesseracts
Microdimensions
Not unless they were kill when collected

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>>51602067

>>51602380
poke balls. or at least the 40k equivalent

Really, tho, its a tesseract labyrinth, a kinda alternate dimension where everyone in it is in stasis. I'm sure its described in the codex. it was for sure in the 5th ed dex.

i think its time for 40k to accept some diversity
i hope the emperor comes back either as a woman or as a non-white

>>51602420
themarysue pls go

>>51602420
The emperor Is kinda arab though

>>51602408
Hey, cool. I saw you fixed the spelling and improved the logo from Veridwhatserface when the Avatar of Ydeathnee was announced.

You got a blank version of the background I can borrow? Dunno what I'll use it for yet.

>>51602247
I try hard not to let my Tau bias show in the generals, but I might make something special just for you.

GUILLIMAN BLOOD SUPER MARINES

>>51602464
As middle eastern as Jesus, anyway.

>>51602420
It's because when 40k was made there was only like black guy in England
And he was like the punjabi or majaraja or some shit
Anyway they did have blackface back then so you get the salamanders

>>51602494
>t. Amerifriend

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>>51602471
Funny you should mention it, just made a template cause i got tired splicing the grid and 80's text from scratch every time.

>>51601083

I'd say either 3 Death Guard Terminators with Combi-Meltas and Axes.

That or 5 Cataphractii with a H. Flamer out of a Drop Pod.

>>51602566
Funny, I was actually building a meme list earlier and was considering if Termies were actually allowed in pods.

That putting them in one is the one of the most reliable ways of getting them where they need to go is proof of something, but I can't decide if it's that Termies are such utter shit or that pods are so utterly broken.

>>51602594
I asked some of my other store goers about something like this, if terminators and bikes could get in a drop pod.

Never got a definite answer other than there's gotta be a rule against it in the CRB.

>>51602642
Not him, but I just checked. Only Rhinos and Razorbacks have the no bulky+ rule.

It kinda makes sense that they'd be able to, since a Dreadnought can fit in one.

>>51602548
Maybe i should offer my services to /tg/
Slogan wites itself: "just because your opinions and memes are shit don't mean they have to look like shit"

>>51602642
It completely fucks the fluff, but you can put them, and more infamously, and Centurions in there. Not bikes, though, because bikes are bikes and not infantry and the BRB says that unless otherwise stated, transports can only transport infantry models.

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So what would the imperium be like if he would of lived?

>>51602642
Bikes i belive have a rule that says only shit that explicitly permits them may carry.

>>51602715
DELET THIS

>>51602715
Are you baiting?

>>51602759
No, i really wonder what the imperium would of been like if Sanguinius hadn't died on horus's ship. But i did just remember that his death was crucial to kill The Arch-Traitor so carry on citizen.

>>51602811
Well you won't ain't not get none lack of no proper answer til you fix you are grammar.

>>51601306
Maybe he will ascend once he fights Gulliman

>>51602724
I can't think of any transports that specifically carry bikes

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>>51602811
You're overlooking the real sacrifice that was crucial to killing Horus.

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>>51602420
I thought it wasn't possible to be this much of a heretic.

>>51602884
Corvus Blackstar

>>51602904
I actually know very little of things other than Sanguinius' and The Emperors sacrifice please inform me anon

>>51602701
Maybe. This paint net thing seems pretty easy so far.

You got a batsignal if I should need you?

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>>51602055
Then don't play Warhammer. Do an easier game to assemble like X-Wing

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>>51602928
Forgot my progress.

>>51602188
They are sapient beings with distinct personalities and minds of their own, but they don't have any soul in the Warp. This is why Chaos rarely attempts to deal with them, because they simply have nothing to offer them.

>>51602928
Do a shitty job between 10 and 02 Gmt and ill swoop in wanted or not

>>51602420
>or as a non-white

But the Emperor already isn't white, unless you're including Persians/Levantines as white.

I know this is bait, but it triggers me all the same

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>>51602981
Read the wiki or something some more before you embarrass yourself further here.

>>51602981
So souls are penises, Tau are asians, chaos gods sell viagra and Culexus are guys with banana-split body mods?

>>51602981
>>51603033
>>51603065
I should clarify that I was referring to NECRONS, not Tau.

Tau have tiny souls, and as such are still vulnerable to Chaos Corruption - they're just not usually worth the effort when humans and Eldar are so much more rewarding.

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>>51603107
In that case, carry on.

>>51603005
Alright well what you got

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So what units would I be able to use and which should I avoid in a Night Lords army?

I prefer mine to be against the worship of Chaos and against the idea of using daemons or being possessed by them. I know there are plenty of Night Lords warbands and some might have given in to the lure of Chaos, but I'm having trouble justifying the cultists, possessed marines and helbrutes I have for a Night Lords army.

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>>51602924
So according to old fluff, during the final showdown between Horus and the Emperor, after Horus struck down Sanguinius, a lone member of the Imperial Army, a mortal man, Ollanius Pius, stepped in front of Horus, a terrifying-neigh immortal demigod of darkness, to protect his emperor, and was immediately torn to shreds. Allegedly, this act of sacrifice, and Horus' act of cruelty to completely obliterate a mortal so callously gave Emps the final push he needed to overcome any feelings of doubt he might have had in order to do what he had to and destroy Horus. The story got retconned a few times later to be a terminator and then a Custodes, which is stupid, and then there was a weird attempt to make Ollanius a perpetual with a huge backstory, and now it's in a weird state where it's not really clear what happened, as the various retcons to the events surrounding the actual fight have made it increasingly unlikely that Ollanius would have been anywhere near the fight. Pic related is the most recent take on it and one I like.

Whether it happened or not, Ollanius is venerated as a saint by the Imperial Guard for being a perfect example of what a guardsman does, dying to hold the line against all odds.

Personally he's probably my favorite bit of fluff in 40k, it's Humanity Fuck Yeah, but in a way that's not obnoxious wanking about how humans are physically superior to everything else. It's just a simple man, far weaker physically than the forces opposing him, conquering any fears or doubts, and stepping up to fight, no matter how futile it might be.

>>51603175
This story is also what got me into actually playing 40k, because I wanted a Guard army.

So are Biel-Tan dead or what?

>>51603175
That... Is actually pretty badass

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>>51603175
>The story got retconned a few times later to be a terminator and then a Custodes, which is stupid
The reason for this, which literally everyone forgets, is because at the same time the showdown was retconned to take place on the Vengeful Spirit and not Horus' sekrit bunker of doom. Pius being on the flagship makes zero sense with the current telling of the events, so he was replaced.

>>51603226
I know, I brought up the later retcons that made the story improbable.

>>51603175
>>51603207

That's also what I hate with the GW broke the "statlemate" recently:

We now only have post-human giants figthing against huge deamonic shitfuck, with no place for your average Joe in the fluff.

>Sniper Rifle - 15 points
>48" S6 AP4 Heavy 1
>Deadshot, Poisoned (4+), Rending
>Deadshot: Each successful To Hit roll made by a this weapon, excluding Snap Shots, is a Precision Shot

Did I just fix sniper rifles?

>>51603226
Old art is old. Poor Sanguinius

>>51603246
IG still exists.

>>51603226
I wonder how long it took horus to get his armor redecorated.

>>51603252
N-No it doesnt anon they Blew up cadia :^)

>>51603247
Precision shot on every hit is probably a little much.

>>51603269
This meme is dumb.

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>>51600843
Question. How often do marine chapters end up having groups like the Tyrannic War Veterans formed?

If I order a pack of Meltas, Combi-Weapons, and Autocanons from FW, I shouldn't generally need more than that, right? They're for CSM.

>>51603247
>Precision shot on every hit
Do not nerf Sergeant Telion.

>>51603281
20 points, then? Precision Shot on 6s is dumb because it requires you to mass the fuck out of them which is stupid for several reasons. Characters still get Lo,S! and it's not excessively killy.

>>51603258
Like, I have no interest in getting involved with the dumb shit that is the Horus Heresy, but did he get to the eye and decide, "fuck it, get my tailor in here." Or did he always have his imperial shit removed and have a fuck ton of eyes all over his armor?

why wasn't that shit a red flag?

>>51603224
It's the IG in a nutshell.

>A battle may see the deployment of millions, yet time and again it is a single heroic company who carry their charge to secure a crucial gatehouse or pivotal objective. Squads of desperate men battle impossible odds, with nothing but their courage and faith driving them to hold the line while their valuable betters are evacuated to safety. Every day that the Imperium endures, Imperial Guardsmen stand in the face of beasts more hellish than their worst nightmares. Men charge screaming alongside their comrades into the mouth of hell, lasguns spitting death at their foe even as xenos munitions tear bloodied holes in the human ranks. In a galaxy of never-ending warfare what makes the perpetually outmatched men of the Imperial Guard so admirable is that they know near constant fear, yet they lift their weapons, plant their feet, and fight on regardless. Their lives may be short and brutal, their sacrifices insultingly thankless, but it is because of the Imperial Guard that the Imperium continues to weather the storm of these dark times.

>>51602319
honestly, It looks real good. especially for a newcomer list.
this will be strong, but I would look at the decurion detachments for some fun. and check out canoptek spiders

>>51603175
If we're being technical about it, the OLDEST fluff has the Emperor taking a company of Imperial Fists into the final assault against Horus' command bunker on earth, during adeptus titanicus/space marine days. That's where the crux badge first got any significance beyond "a generic symbol of veterancy". It was to mark the fact that they were the unit who ended the siege, which is also why only space marines have it.

Pius as a mythic figure is introduced later (within a couple of months) in a white dwarf article alongside the release of the plastic Imperial Guard box, but was only ever present in that one instance until FFG put out that little blurb, and later Black Library with their perpetual uber-soldat abomination. All that's known about him is he supposedly took a shot for the emperor during one of the attacks on the imperial command center.

Then, shortly after that white dwarf came out, the Realm of Chaos: Lost and the Damned was released, which printed Bill King's siege of terra short stories. In those GW changed the location of the final fight to Horus' space ship, the Vengeful Spirit, and had a space marine terminator interrupting the confrontation.

That stood until GW decided to reprint those short stories with a Custodes awkwardly edited into place instead, which is the current version of events as of now.

I don't really get the fan canon and rabid appeal that's propped up about pius as some sort of HURRRG BALLS OF STEEEL LOOK HORUS DIRECTLY IN THE EYES AND TELL HIM TO FUCK OFF ubermensch. At least until Know No Fear ruined him, he was just a dude who got killed in indeterminate circumstances, propped up by the guard as a saint to keep them happily jumping in the meatgrinder.

>>51603247
Snipers are fine as they are. How could you think they are bad?

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When Chaos Space Marines and Cultists summon demons, do they need to bind the demon to their will? This seems counterproductive, because demons don't like binding, and will do anything permitted to work against their masters. It would seem that it would be more permissible to bind a demon of another god to your will. Theres tons of art of chaos marines walking together with demons, but a lot of fluff sources seem to indicate that demons will never submit willingly to mortals.

How doe this go for stuff like Possessed Marines, and bands like the wordbearers? Do they just summon the demon without any binding and let it go free? Is there any fluff precedent to indicate the demon wont just kill the people who summoned it?

Tl;dr: Will demons every work will willingly with chaos mortals?

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>>51603247
>S6, Rending

Lol no. This shit is Relic-level weapon. 15 point to make Vindicare useless, nice suggestion nigga.

>>51603486
Or Vindicaires just need a buff.

>>51603481
They summon the Daemon, and bind them so that they are forced to recognize friend or foe. The Word Bearers do bind the more violent daemons like Bloodletters, as they will attack any on sight without being binded, whereas Daemonettes will go straight after any Eldar if possible. Y'get what I'm saying?

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>>51603168
The cultists are easy, as nightlords still usually use servants on there ships, so you can justify it as that. Helbrutes.. not so much, unless you fluff it as he got horribly mutated and went insane, and the whole warband hates him, you could do this with possessed as well. If you feel like it, feel free to ally in Furies, as in the lore they hang out on night lord ships.

Honestly it depends on your taste and your warband

I would suggest avoiding the following

Hellbrutes(Just use FW chaos dreadnaughts, get the night lord one)
Cult Daemons(Meaning aligned)
Any marks(You should be running traitor legion rules, so you shouldn't be able to have these anyway)
Deamon princes(Worst fate a night lord could suffer)
Deamonic Machines(Since they are tainted by the warp, however you could make your warband more of a "use chaos for shit but don't worship them" thing)
Cult Troops(Obvious reasons)
Obliterators/Mutilators(Unless you lore it as groups of marines with weapons, such as Pic related)


Things I highly suggest:

Raptors/Warptalons(Lore them as the remaining Night Raptors, and sure warptalons are mutated by the warp, but they are perfect for night lords games wise, with the blinding deep strike thing)
Terminators(Lore them as the remaining Atramentar)
Chosen ( Lore them as the remaining Terror Squads)
And finally, Basic marines! Your bread and butter. Not to mention all the other vehicles which are very fluffy. Go crazy man, as I fellow Night Lord player I hope you got some good info out of this.

>>51603447
They're okay for fielding hordes of dudes with shitty little 2 point popguns. Which is cool and there's a place for that, but that's not a sniper rifle. When the FBI needs to take out a hostage taker, do you think they stick 2 dozen guys outside his window hoping to get at least 2 precision shots (who cares where all those misses go?) so they can hopefully get one past his ballistic vest?

>>51603486
Vindicare already is irrelevant on a table smaller than 6'x8'. He dies to 2 lascannon hits.

>>51603562
>see pic
>the fuck are these supposed to be
>why do the spotters have retarded melee weapons
>oh
>oh shit that's gay but ingenious

>>51603559
If you're saying that Chaos forces must bind their demons, then yes.

>>51603168
>I'm having trouble justifying the cultists, possessed marines and helbrutes I have for a Night Lords army.
Make them part of Krieg Acerbus' warband. Considering he's a daemon prince I doubt they'd object.

>>51602715
He was named acting-Emperor in "Forgotten Empire". Guilleman, Russ, and El'Jonson thought he would do a good job if Terra had fallen.

If Sanguinius had killed Horus and the Emperor hadn't been wounded we would still probably have the current stalemate. Not all of the loyalist primarchs are dead.

>>51603613
>why do the spotters have retarded melee weapons
Oblits got PFists, anon

I bought a Start Collectiong Skitarii box on impulse. Guess I'll be starting AdMech now, would the best purchase (after I paint these guys) be another box?

>>51603670
I'm aware my man, but it's just a stupid weapon for a spotter or especially loader to use for obvious reason.

>>51603602
Hostage situation is a bit, completely different than a relatively large sized battle. Sniper rifles don't really have a place in 40k style battles. They are more about assassination. If you wanted to have sniper rifles be more "accurate" they would be a pre-game roll of dice to see if your sniper hit an important character before the battle began. That's stupid and bad.

As they are now, they are fine. Maybe they could have increased range to 48" and maybe Precision shot could trigger on a 5+, but they are still good.

>>51603680
>not using your Pfist to thrust bullets 1000feet into the enemy while your partner clubs guardsmen to death with his cannon

Do you even 40k?

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>>51603290
Anyone? Have a Jackson quote folks.

>>51603723
What merry band of snowflake xeno killers do you want to make?

>>51603291

Anyone?

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>>51603745
I was merely asking when they form groups like that.

>>51603269
... I'm going to fucking bite and I don't even play guard.

There are more units in the guard than just the Cadiians. Plus over half the "Cadian" guard gets shipped off to other planets because they are so badass like the Cattachan warriors are the second biggest freaking export in the Guard next to Cadians.

Something I've been considering for my CSM army:

Squad of chosen with power swords and mark of Slaanesh.

Using them as MEQ killers. I5 makes sure I go before loyalist scum.

A squad of 5 (AC+4 marines) would run me about 175 points. With bolt pistols, they get 4 attacks on the charge.

The other option would be to take a lightning claw on each. That would be one less attack, but re-roll wounds.

>>51603833
I was just ironic shitposting memes man no need to actually take fake bait

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Just finished up painting my dudes what are you anons up to? Any games planned or models that you'd like to show the thread?

>>51603690
>Large scale battles don't have tactically important targets and designated marksmen with accurate full power rifles to single them out
Are you retarded or baiting? Have you really never found yourself in a situation where you need to pick the psyker out of the middle of a deathstar full of 2+ multiwound models.

>>51602874
Cypher kills him before that can happen.

>>51603673
More dune crawlers with neutron lasers.

>>51603673
wait a year for COMBINED

>>51603840
Lightning Claws are mathematically better up to 2 attacks.

Equal number of attacks: Lightning Claw
Power Sword has +1 attack: Lightning Claw
Power Sword has 2+ attacks: Power Sword

>>51603840
>wound on 4+
>no viable delivery system
>costly MEQ
>footslogging assault unit
They won't do well.

>>51603840
Or 5 termis for 177 points with MoS...

>>51603360
The trouble isn't with characters, but with special weapons. I'd give pinning back to snipers myself, rather than have them just delete specials out.

>>51603859
G-GGA where have you been the threads have been shit for like a week now man

When can we expect leaks on the ynnead book?

>>51603919
Sunday. We had an epub of Fall of Cadia within a day or two of its release.

>>51603919
about 4 days before it actually comes out

>>51603889
Oh, for fuck's sake.

Glad I sold the chosen I got with my dark vengeance box.

>>51603882
wot?

>>51603955
Right?
I really want to make a ragtag bunch of custom MEQs geared to to the teeth, but then realize the 5 of them would be like 240 points and nope the fuck out

My desire for wysisyg means i'd never field them

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r8, pls no h8

OP?

>>51603975

Supposedly a combined Admech codex is coming after eighth but really who knows anymore?

>>51604043
I'd sooner believe new guardsmen models than that.

>>51604037
Might just be the camera blur but that guy in the back looks like his face is melting

>>51604049
I'd sooner believe plastic sisters than new Guard models

>>51604064
And I'd sooner believe plastic Havocs!

>>51604049
why the fuck is that so farfetched of an idea? what with gw trying to combine all the damn armies right now

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>>51603930
>>51603936
Any cool army composition ideas you guys have? I want to run 3 raiders with vypers but input much appreciated.
Would want harlies but unsure how I'd use them

>>51604087
Whoa anon lets not get to crazy here

>>51603246
There's plenty of planets for the average joe to do all kinds of things in. Obviously the 'main' story is going to have literal gods battling each other, but the whole point of building such a vast setting is that you have plenty of room to have your dudes have their own adventure and stories.

You don't have to decide the fate of the galaxy to be a satisfying story. Leave that stuff to the super humans, you just focus on protecting the little space rock you call your homeworld.

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>>51603859
GGA! Nice. I am doing a similar conversion for Rough Riders. I played a game this time and remembered to take pictures after I set up, but forgot to take them the rest of the time. I haven't painted too much yet in terms of infantry, but I'm getting there. Had to do a lot of stripping old minis and building and shaving new ones.

It was a 1k game against Tyranids. Sorry for the blurry picture. I also thought the Tyrant was cute peeping on the Conscripts. Anyway, I ended up getting beat pretty bad because he stole the initiative and had some good rolling early on, especially for his Tervigon. He ended up with like 70-80 gants quickly after. The Punisher tank was a lot of fun though. Bringing its guns to bear, it deleted the flying Tyrant mid air. Shame the Tyrant also messed up my Wyvern and Chimera vets first.

Guys I just realized. GW cannot copyright Abaddons name. I think he's actually going to get killed off by Cypher like the rumours say.

>>51604102
I think that the cast of players is the best supplement detachment. Shadowseer death jester and a troupe. Think they can even hop in a raider.

>>51604139
>literally has a bag of gants
That is beautiful

>>51604139
>all those boxes on the shelves
ahhh
i fucking hate my LGS, they have such a shit collection
PANDEMONIUM WHY ARE YOU SO SHIT

>>51604101
To be fair Ad Mech is the one that actually SHOULD be combined.

>>51604143
Can they trademark Ahriman, either? I doubt the lack of trademark for the name is enough of a motive to do something like that. Besides, it should be easy to get Abbadon the Despoiler™ or Abbadon the Warmaster™ of Chaos™.

>yfw Aabbadoni

>>51601516
Get Mk3 Marines and Tartaros Termies. Cut the barrels off the autocannon and glue to HB. Now you have a bunch of older armours for your chaos boys and an autocannon, or just look for those bits.

>>51604143
How does one pronounce Abaddon?

>>51601543
I was thinking of the Hamadreth for a Slaanesh DP.

>>51604180
Hmm, good point. Still, it adds a LITTLE bit of legitimacy to the rumour in the age of COPYRIGHT ALL THE THINGS, LOL AELDARI

>>51604193
For me it's: Ab-uh-dawn

>>51604132
But I like average joes having a part to play in the fate of the galaxy.

>>51604155
It was. Me and the store manager kept making jokes about the bags as if they were drugs. They were tough though. All my anti-horde was hit hard in the initiative seize.

>>51604160
It does feel quite nice. It's a bit over packed for how small the store is though. People knock boxes off all the time with their butts.

>>51603859
Working on painting almost a dozen Crisis Suits.

>>51604215
my store has no fucking selections for any army, not even space marines
they're always like "lol we can order for you" but man, its the fact that you don't even sell fucking chimeras...

>>51604139
Oh fuck I swear to god I recognize this store.
Brit?

>>51604229
Dude i have same issues My store has ton of Magic and Baseball cards every where but not a single fucking actual warhammer thing in the store they have a fucking catalog lying around that you can look at though. Makes me pissed because i dont wanna wait for like a week for them to get it in when i can just go to the Geedubs nearby and buy it right now.

>>51604229
That's depressing. I know how that goes. There's another game store nearby that sells GW products, but it's like 1 box per army and the rest is order up. What does your store sell besides GW products? Or is it a GW store?

>>51604233
Mid-west USA. Yours probably has a similar layout I bet because I've seen quite a few pictures of other GW stores and I feel like it's from the store I go to every time.

>>51604257
>>51604259
It's an independent shop.

The top floor is all MTG.

Downstairs there are two shelves of 40k, but there's like, 3 different boxes for each army (if that).

The only GW connected store I know of is all the way in Franklin, you'd think it would be here in Boston, but no.

>>51604259
Ah too bad. Still, it's not just the layout, it's fucking everything, right from the board to where the manager keeps the delivery boxes to the poster on the door.
Weird shit, man.

>>51604193
Ah-bad-ahn

>>51604200
Are you planning on toning down the leaves and honeycomb? Seems a bit too natural for Slaanesh.

>>51604274
Hey atleast your store is connected to the area with the tables you have to leave the store and walk around a corner just to get to the game area

>>51604291
I don't think it would be too natural, just paint it weird colours like an Alice in wonderland type of thing.

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Played my first game of 40k the other day, killteam game against Tau (playing Grey Knights), just shunted into his face and assault locked most of his dudes, cleaned up before terminators could finish footslogging. Feels good to win my first game, dude was super nice and game went smooth
bretty cool desu

>>51604365
You played HoR KT then?

>>51604374
yup
5 interceptors 2 termies

>>51603290
Practically never if the fluff is true to the tabletop in any fashion. Actual tyrannic war veterans would just be the techmarines who man the thunderfire cannons, which are the bane of tyranids everywhere.

When was the last time you ever lost an entire company to tyranids? How often do you lose any more than three dudes to tyranids? Campaign-wise, unless your dudes are instant death'd(which tyranids are straight up incapable of causing on your dudes outside of melee), a marine would only be "dead" dead after a battle if they were to like fail a toughness test.

I was once in a small campaign where I had only 145 dudes available to me. I had to track casualties and determine who goes out of action and adjust my lists accordingly. Tyranids were my favourite thing to go up against because if I do everything right, I will only lose AT MOST like 3 dudes a battle against them. Whereas if I spent my time going after the CSM, I was losing 30 dudes a battle.

>>51601876
>>51601936

fuck off this is how you turn into /pfg/

>>51603365
when you forge a pact with a chaos god a little demon guy shows up and details all of your property with suitable chaos ornamentation.

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Would you allow using Chaos renegade ogryns as chaos spawns? I figured they role out at about the same size, same base and they would fit my khorne daemonkind theme better than the "thing" of the official kit that is both dated and ugly.
I'm no tournament player, but it would be nice to hear an opinion on the matter.

>>51604419
wisdom
not even ironically my dudes

the 40k community is lame. They hate you if you play WAAC but then go about playing WAAC immediately afterwards

>>51604441
>is it the right base size?
>does the model have similar dimensions
>does it look thematic both for the unit you're proxying and for the aesthetic of your army?
I'd be cool with it.

>>51603442
I'm just waiting for the custodes to be replaced with a Titan then later an Emperor Class Battleship

>>51604139
Bad luck, anon.

Bit of advice, though: Don't put your Wyvern in a corner in the open like that. I'd have stuffed it right in the middle of your army, behind those churchy walls.

It's got barrage and a 4ft range with no minimum, so it doesn't care about LoS. It only cares about the enemy not getting close to it.

>>51604441
Greenstuff a few extra tentacles on there and I'm down for it, anon.

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>>51600939
Enjoy getting those servitors mindlocked

>>51604461

Great ty. Even though we are a friendly community, its always nice to see the general opinion of the internet before you try on a proxy.

>>51604132
>you just focus on protecting the little space rock you call your homeworld.
Every guardsman knows, deep down inside, that the "The Emperor is counting on you, Guardsmen!" is a crock of shit despite what the regimental priest and commissar say, but each guardsman also is able to hope, deep down inside, that it really is true, that they actually do have the chance of being the nail that kicks out the shoe that kicks out the horse from under the Black Crusade and preserves the Imperium.

Removing that hope is just rude.

>>51604482
Smart. It's my 3rd game and every time I deploy I'm always not really sure where to put everything. I'll have to consider that next time. I spend all my time making lists and doing hobby stuff, but I never really think about positioning.

>>51604548

There are some guardsmen who also don't give a shit about the Emperor.

I remember one in the Vostroyan novels all but thinking that the Emperor could piss off if he expected him to die without good cause.

>>51600939
>5 models in Kill Team
>Grav in kill team

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>>51603562
Well, thanks for the detailed response. I forgot to mention in my first post that I don't really play the game too much. It's mostly as a collection, though I'll pull from it whatever I need if I happen to play a game.

I think I'll stick with some squads of regular marines, chosen, terminators and raptors. I'm hoping to grab the Night Lords conversion kit to scatter a few stupid bat wing helmets around my squads and maybe some old armour from the HH line. I might even mix in some loyalist armor bits, inspired by their scavenger ways.

Rate my Semi-competitive Kill Team:
Raptors: 250 points

Sergeant: 19
- EBR Bolter

Sternguard Veteran: 22
Sternguard Veteran: 22

Apothecary: 45
- Plasma Gun

8x Scouts: 88
- Camo Cloaks

Scout: 19
- Heavy Bolter

Scout: 26
- Missile Launcher

>>51604428
OK, /tg/, what is this little guy's name?

>>51604183

I have BoP, actually. They're either going to be vets or Terror squads for HH, and my Tarts will likely be assaulting from my Dreadclaw after I switch to an assault canon Mortis contemptor. I have BaC, too, so my army will have the old armor look to it, regardless.

It's the Autocanons I don't have. Silly me thought one came in the basic Marine box, but of course the only heavy weapon is a z heavy Bolter.

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Picking up the brush for the first time in about... 6 months. Not feeling great about how rusty I've gotten, but here's a test model for my new Sisters force.

Going with the Order of the Martyred Lady.

>>51604782
Decent, cloak could use more pronounced highlights.

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>>51604666

Pick up Calth. MKIV is all over NL, cataphractii terminators are sweet, and you get a contemptor. Get second contemptor for cheap on ebay, magnetize everything, and you can make Mortis patterns, too. The rules are in IA13.

>tfw dual butcher cannon Mortis
>8 S8 Ap4 shots

what are the 40k planets that really make Earth look like shit, anons?
http://www.theonion.com/article/astronomers-discover-new-planet-that-really-makes--37986

>>51604808
>tfw wanted to buy calth but couldn't fit it in my backpack to take home on the train so i got skitarii instead

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I posted this one earlier, but I love how badass Warkoptas are in Kill Team.

>>51604053
He is screaming super hard. Maybe he saw into the Ark

>>51604820
Au'taal Prime
>Au'taal Prime is a resort planet and is well known as a verdant and beautiful world, where only honoured heroes can retire.

>There are defensive plat in the orbital space of this planet bristles with weapon systems, because the Tau take the protection of their brave elders very seriously.

It's space Florida.

>>51604845
So it's full of bizarre mutants and rednecks?

>>51604830

I got mine for like $80 because it wasn't selling at my one store. It's totally worth it, and I would've bought a second if he had it. I'm still tempted to get another one. It's so good.

>>51604871
My bad. It's the space version of romanticized Florida.

>>51604900
Oh.

Okay, then.

>>51604881
I do plan to buy one or two after I finish my Guard and this Skitarii box in a few months.

>>51604871
He meant the eastern part of the state.
Basically just Miami, actually

>>51601618
this was at the time of the Horus Heresy you peasant, dude in the middle is Horus

>>51601579
Buy them from China or from Forgeworld or get the fuck off 4chan. We don't care about your poverty and lack of dedication to your army.

>>51601475
Why is DP Fulgrim hanging out with not DP Fulgrim

>>51604939
>You will never be a grizzled Tau veteran lazing his days away on Au'taal Prime
>You will never play Hotline Mi'ami
>You will never get together with a group of your fellow veterans for some tabletop shenanigans on Shas'O'run

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>>51605004
>Shas'O'run
I kek'd

I'll play this against GK/Inquisition next week
What are my odds according to /tg/?

+ Adepta Tarpit 2k +

+ CAD (2000pts) +

> No Force Org Slot (162pts)

Ministorum Priest (70pts) [Eviscerator, Relic - The Litanies of Faith]

Ministorum Priest (40pts) [Power Maul]

Ministorum Priest (26pts) [Bolt Pistol]

Ministorum Priest (26pts) [Bolt Pistol]

> HQ (220pts) +

Canoness Veridyan (85pts)

Saint Celestine (135pts)

> Elites (120pts) +

Sororitas Command Squad (120pts)
Hospitaller
Celestian [Storm Bolter] x4
[Sacred Banner of the Order Militant]

> Troops (520pts)

Battle Sister Squad (260pts)
Sister Superior [Combi-Flamer]
Battle Sister x20
[Flamer]
[Heavy Flamer]


Battle Sister Squad (260pts)
Sister Superior [Combi-Flamer]
Battle Sister x20
[Flamer]
[Heavy Flamer]

> Fast Attack (586pts)

Dominion Squad (208pts)
Dominion Superior [Combi-Melta]
Dominion x5
[Meltagun] x4
Immolator

Dominion Squad (208pts)
Dominion Superior [Combi-Melta]
Dominion x5
[Meltagun] x4
Immolator

Seraphim Squad (170pts)
Seraphim Superior [Melta bombs, Power Weapon (Sword)]
Seraphim x7
[2x Hand Flamer]x2


> Heavy Support (392pts)

Exorcist (130pts)

Exorcist (130pts)

Retributor Squad (132pts)
Retributor Superior [Veteran]
Retributor w/ Heavy Weapon [Heavy Bolter]x4
Retributor w/ Simulacrum Imperialis [Simulacrum Imperialis]

>>51604998
that's the DP that corrupted Lorgar on cadia I think, or whatever the planet at the end of the eye of terror was.

>>51605213
No DP corrupted Lorgar tho. He went to Cadia, spoke with a shaman woman, then eradicated all life on cadia before sending a chapter on a journey to the Eye.

>>51605229

I believe the Shaman woman was said to have ascended to Daemonhood during his visit.

>>51605268
Das possible, but he killed her, iirc. Or mebbe she got to da warp before then.

>>51605268
>Erebus
>orchestrates the fucking Horus Heresy
>doesn't get daemonhood
>Ingethel
>does a job literally anyone could have done, literally a glorified messenger
>gets daemonhood

>>51605338
It's almost like the Chaos gods award "gifts" based more on whims than based on loyalty and competence.

>>51605378
I dunno, Lorgar was made a Daemon Prince of Chaos Undivided.

>>51605378
Yea, or maybe Erebus pulled an Abaddon and refused it because he doesn't want to lose his soul and free will. Not sure about that though, Word Bearer tend to revere Daemonhood far above even other Chaos worshipers, it's just about the holiest thing to them.

>>51605415
I think that might be the case, since both Erebus and Kor Phaeron wish to replace Abaddon.

Got a weird train of thought.

I've got the start of a Genestealer Cult army; looking to do a Cult Insurrection based around a Cavalcade and Subterranean Uprising. Looking to have the Patriarch be my only actual Genestealer, mostly because I like the cultists themselves more than the 'Stealers.

HOWEVER, the Hive Tyrant is my favorite model in the game. I want to include one, possibly as my Warlord. Story-wise, the Tyrant survived a losing battle or his spore ended up in the wrong place or something; whatever the circumstance, he ended up with a Genestealer cult and he's their idol, hiding beneath a city or something. I'm making this up as I go, so take that for what it's worth.

Anyway, for the Hive Tyrant... What's the best way to do this without going unbound? What should a (preferably) Walk-Rant have to support a GC army? How do I field it without any other real Tyranids, except for the Patty and maybe Tyrant Guard? I guess Rippers work too, given they could pass for Tyranid vermin.

Can you use chaos contemptors in 40k? And if so, are they worth it?

What size are Kromlech minis?
I want bits for conversions but I don't know if it will fit space marines

>>51605467
Yes
They're alright

Whats the best AT in a Space Marines CAD that isn't Centurions?
Forgeworld is fine...

>>51605521
That's cool. I was thinking about getting one for my Alpha Legion army

>>51605338
'Ascending' isn't entirely a good thing. By becoming daemon, the person becomes bound more tightly to the control of the gods

>>51605406
and lorgar did nothing but sit on his ass and whine

>>51605544
>Forgeworld is fine
Sicaran Venator.

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Sicaran_Venator.pdf

>>51605544
grav devastators
combi-melta veterans

Do we have a gathering storm 2 epub yet

>>51605441
Allied Detachment

1x Hive tyrant
1x Mucolid Spore or Rippers

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>>51605544
Literally nothing better. There's no other single unit in the game that can remove as much as it can.

>>51605584
yeah but only in the secret thread

If only I could get my hands on the rules for Chaos Contemptors. Any idea where I could find them? Dammit I miss the megas.

>>51605607
>he doesn't know about the Psi-Titan

>>51605441
>>51605594

Adding onto this, if you wanted to make the Tyrant the Warlord, just make it a CAD and add another squad of Rippers. Following that, give the ripper(s) Deep Strike and they become effective objective-takers and actually fulfill a purpose.

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Are dark angels traitors? Due to this foto, there are "fallen" one in mk4 power armour behind the Cypher, and they are standing and fighting near Papa Smurph and grey knights. As I think, the true "fallen" are real dark angels, and Lion may be already corrupted by Chaos.

>>51605467
BUTCHER CANNONS

>>51605617
Psi-Titan isn't available yet, anon. Therefore, I am still correct.

>>51605627
>Are
we don't fucking know, and won't fucking know until march

we probably won't even know anything for sure then

>>51605627
Crossing my fingers in hopes that the GK character isn't shit and we get some formation/toys that make us less shit.

>>51605629
Aren't those for decimators?

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>>51605611
IA13, pic related it's the relevant pages in case you can't get the book.

>>51605627
I really wish roboute guilliman had a better pose.

>>51605671

Contemptors get them, too.

It can take a pair!

See
>>51605677

>>51600843
What type of army do you think would be best for a new player?

>>51605693

One that new player will want to paint.