/hhg/ - Horus Heresy General

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SISTER UPGRADE PACKS WHEN

>>51597942
So is the Emperor going to get rules in Inferno, or just a later book? Maybe a LoW?

>>51598006
Later book. Hopefully never.

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Emperor's marital aid as a non-dedicated transport when?

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Repost from last thread.
So is there any fluff about the Magos Biologis/Genetors other than a few brief mentions that they exist scattered about? It's both easy and hard to design a converted army based on what is basically a name and three sentences of description.

If not, I think I'll promote the Leviathan series to "Honorary Biologis" and pattern stuff off that, since it was excellent world-building, if not enough of it.

Also, are Skaven Clanrats/Skavenslaves, Crypt Ghouls and such OK for Militia Levies, or do I have to use human bodies? You do need a lot of them, and a good mix and some part switching might make them less homogenous. Also going to have to improve my batch painting, 100 models may take some time to do individually :)

>>51598006
Siege of Terra, been the case since HH1 was released years ago.

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>>51597942
I CLAIM THIS THREAD FOR THE FIFTEENTH!!!

>>51598034
How did they get a pict-capture of that marine? I thought thousand sons were always invisible.

Copied from Battle Bunnies:

Force size at time of Prospero approx 95,000 to 100,000 (see page 24 of Inferno for 11 Companies at an approximate 73,200 as part of the Censure Host).

1: Onn - The Breakers of Rings - mainly Terminators of the Varagyr. Additional Legion command elements.
Jarl of Onn - Gunnar Gunnhilt (Lord Gunn).
3,000 Legionaires.

2: Twa - The Thread Cutters - mainly veteran infantry and Dreadnoughts.
Jarl of Twa -
800 Legionaires + 60 Dreadnoughts

3: Tra - The Eagle's Keepers - mostly Close assault infantry and support armour
Jarl of Tra - Ogvai Ogvai Helmschrot
9,800 Legionaires.

4: For - The Blood-worm's Masters - Mainly Heavy Infantry and Artillery. Large number of Breacher and assault units.
Jarl of For - Havel Red-Blade [Jarl for 50 years at time of Prospero Conflict]
8,600 Legionaires.

5: Fyf - The Blood-Ice Storm - mixed infantry force with Light armour
Jarl of Fyf - Amlodhi Skarssen
10,000 Legionaires.

6: Sesc - No information
Jarl of Sesc -

magnus deserved worse

>>51598024
Never, hopefully. Flesh Tearers Taxi Service helped ruin a whole edition of 40k, and stopping it was one of the few positive changes GW made to the game recently. We don't need Sisters Of Silence Taxi Service fucking up 30k.

>>51598053
7: Sepp - The Wight-flame's Wielders (Landayvan) - mainly 'Black Cull' and Destroyer and Immolation units. This Company also holds much of the Legion's Siege weapons and Artillery.
Jarl of Sepp -
5,200 Legionaires.

8: For-Twa - The Slaughter-fire Heralds - Principally Recon and Infiltration units.
Jarl of For-Twa -
9,500 Legionaires.

9: Tra-Tra - The Serpents of the Battle Moon - notable content of Heavy Weapons, Rapiers and Infantry Support units.
Jarl of Tra-Tra - Sturgard Joriksson
7,800 Legionaires.

10: Dekk -
Jarl of Dekk -

11: Dekk-Onn - The Sea-flame's Bearers - Veteran infantry with high Terran numbers.
Jarl of Dekk-Onn -
9,200 Legionaires.

12: Tolv - The Shield-gnawers (Was called Grieving Dragon) - principally Close Assault Infantry and Ground Assault vehicles.
Jarl of Tolv - Oki (Called Scarred) (Successor to Jaurmag (Called Laughing Jaurmag who was sent to Terra before Prospero)).
8,700 Legionaires.

13: Dekk-Tra - The Corpse-renders (Wolf Brothers) - Pursuit and assault units.
Jarl of Dekk-Tra - Bullveye
600 Legionaires.

>>51598043
Invisible Iron that sees the future.

>>51598024
I just thought of something so lewd I'm ashamed it occured to me.

>>51598101
say it

>>51597942

So how long until we get a proper scan instead of those potato quality PDFs?

>>51598025
Use Lacrymallus Archmagos in a Taghmata army list, use a ton of servitors, thralls and Myrmidons.

LACHRIMALLUS ............................................................................+25 POINTS
Lachrimallus: Held in little regard by their fellow Magos as peddlers in flesh and blood, the Lachrimallus serve yet a vital purpose on any Forge World. They are the work masters, the overseers, the ‘lords of cursed tears’ at whose electro-whip the multitudes are driven to labour.

Special Restriction: If a Primary Detachment contains a Lachrimallus then it must also have at least one Adsecularis Covenant unit as part of the same detachment.
Special Rules: The Lachrimallus has the Feel No Pain (5+) special rule.
Ruthless Assault: Whenever an Adsecularis Covenant in the same detachment as the Lachrimallus is destroyed, roll a D6. On a roll of 5+, an identical unit to the one just destroyed becomes part of the controlling player’s Ongoing Reserves. This replacement unit costs the controlling player no additional points.

Closest thing you'll get to a Magos Biologis as they are the ones in charge of creating vat-grown servitors so Lachrimallus are most likely also Biologis or related to them.

>>51598121
Never. Unless you specifically scan them for us.

>>51598062
Make an altered version without Assault Vehicles. How about now?

Or make it so that it has two states, one where the front is open and it has Assault Vehicle, but it loses frontal protection, and another where the front is closed and it loses the Assault Vehicle, but gains some extra protection?

>>51598159

I don't have the book sorry.

>>51598119
>That DT is a combi dikku/fleshlight
>The passive sticks one inside one of their holes, the active uses one as a strap-on
>Maybe this is worse than the cuckqueen thread

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So, did we ever get more rules for the Mechanicum Karacnos Assault Tank aside from just the guns? Haven't had time to check the general for most of the weekend.

>>51598228
That's not to bad, you could have had far worse thoughts

>>51598240
Maybe a Heave 2 Large Blast would have been more aproppiate.
Proper Legion Phosphex rapiers are better.

>>51598266
>The strap on fucks the fleshlight, achieveing a sounding + Concentric DP effect
Oh thank goodness

>>51598270
Mechancium already have large blast spam. A Thunderfire Cannon/Quad Mortar-style S5 small blast barrage spammer was an empty niche. Well, unless you count the Vultarax, since that actually fires more S5 small blasts at higher BS with TL...

>>51598292
After all, you could have imagined holding hands with a SoS.

I've been playing 30k but haven't really played 40k or seen many psykers in action. Maybe not any. What's all this talk about perils of the warp being the balancing factor against how strong TS appear to be?

>>51598174
Scanon no longer has access to his scanner, so I wouldn't count on it ever happening. But in a couple of months non-attendees will get their books, and a few of them will post potatophone images with glare obscuring half the page. Wait until then.

>>51598169
>Make an altered version without Assault Vehicles.
Nah. Why should the sisters get nerfed because marine players want to steal their ride?

Look, at the end of the day, if you make it available to everyone you'll see loads of people switching out their spartans and storm eagles for the Sisters Taxi Service. Frankly, a future where every bloody loyalist 30k army has a minimal tax of sisters infantry and a load of taxis is not one I want to see.

>>51598331

Do we have anyone here who would be a hero and do a proper scan, even if it destroyed their book?

>>51598331
Whenever a single TSon suffers a wound from perils everyone has to take a pinning test, which is made worse by every suffering -1Ld if every IC is killed.

>>51598137
Hey, that works. If I tool up about 40 or 60 of my Levies, I guess I could make a combined Lachrimallus/Force Commander model, probably with a Deldar whip and a few syringes, and pick whether I want tougher or more numerous and stabby Levies. Respawn probably not going to be too dramatic with 3 or 4 units, but I imagine it could make Custodes or similar rage if I get a couple lucky rolls.

Is there a "Standard" I have to follow when converting Cults/Miltia units? I can't see many official models for that line. Do I have to use Guardsmen or Chaos Cultists/Similar, or can I go a little crazy and use Skavenslaves and Crypt Ghouls? I imagine they'd look OK with a couple cybernetics dotted around and with that Silver Tower box the Skaven are quite cheap.

>>51598331
First the TS has to roll double 6, then he has to roll a result on the perils table that causes a wound, then he has to fail any possible tests requiered before the wound is suffered, then he has to fail the pinning tests on Ld 9 or 10.

Still seems less harsh than DA where you give the opponent D3 VP merely for not fielding as many units as him.

>>51598321
>That position allows BOTH hands to be held, and Jenetia isn't wearing a grill that prevents any mouth-kissing

>>51598370
>Silver Tower

I meant Spire of Dawn, oops. Not too up on the Fantasy/AoS stuff. Either way, there's 40 bodies, a couple ogres I can turn into Biologis Vorax or use for parts, some HQs with a couple cool weapons and such and a fuckton of useless elves. Not bad for £50.

>>51598399
>then he has to roll a result on the perils table that causes a wound
To be fair, that's 4 of them and the other two hit you if you fail Ld. None of allow saves either.

>>51598346
>Why should the sisters get nerfed because marine players want to steal their ride?

Does a Razorback affect the transport capacity of a Rhino? I said "make an altered version" not "remove Assault Vehicle."

>switching out their spartans and storm eagles for the Sisters Taxi Service

Yeah, Marines sure are short on assault transports.

>>51598430
You sick fuck.

So, Solarite Power Gauntlets, does anybody have ideas on how to model them?

I'm thinking of cutting a right hand power fist and glueing it to a custard arm. How does this sound?
What other way to represent it can we come up with?

>>51598489
>get a hold of some epic power fists
>replace the tips of the fingers of a full size power fist with them
MAXIMUM FIST

>>51598489
>The only time when people think seriously about modelling IF Solarite Power Gauntlets is when you can slap them on an EW rerollable 3++ Custodes and hit at S10 non-specialist weapon.
I don't know, maybe a big fist with a prominent Aquila/Sun on it?
I think the Templar kit has one.

>>51598489
Beefy unarmoured arms with aquila knuckle dusters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_Lkuf-ZmHw

>>51598489
Can't you just, you know, have some patience before you get to brutally bend your opponents over the gaming table and go in with no lube ? Just wait a little, no doubt FW is very willing to except your money for cuckstodes fists that don't like shit.

>>51598554
>cuckstodes
oh hey it's you again

>>51598595
>autistic FW employee is so offended by the word cuck that he thinks its all one big conspiracy
you doth protest too much

>>51598462
Look, taxi service helped bring in unfluffy superfriends bullshit to 40k, so I don't think it has any place in 30k. Other armies have shiny things that your army can't have, and that's okay.

>Yeah, Marines sure are short on assault transports.
They're short of 125 point ones. That are Fast. And stealthy. And can fit 10 marines/5 terminators AND an independent character (unlike the land raider). But of course you know all this, it's the whole reason you're so desperate to get them for your marines.

>>51598534
Is there a point in taking fists if you don't have EW and rerollable 3++? I'm working on a small detachment as allies, so he can't get EW and I don't want to model him with a shield.

>>51598687
The shield captain is strong enough that he's likely going to make his points back no matter what, taking the 1.5++ combo is just being a dick and totally avoidable if FW did any playtesting whatsoever.

>>51598667
If I'm so desperate, why am I willing to nerf it to remove all good bits out of it? Without Assault Vehicle, why would one take the sub over the Cadillac? They're both Fast, Skimmers, have the same capacity and the Cadillac has better armour and Flare Shields.

>for your marines

Custodes ain't Marines.

>>51598687
Maybe a Crimson Fist / Polux's fist?
Or one of Calgar's

Why are the only memorable power fists fitted with boltguns? It's a rethoric question, we all know why.
Imagine holding hands using something like that :^)

>>51598729
remember all the rumors a while back where people were claiming FW way delaying the book because of gametesting the cuckstodes?

guess that didnt work out

My friend just told me that Secutarii can only be taken in the regular taghmata list, and none of the special ones. Is this true?

>>51598754
>gametesting
Is that the codeword for "jacking off to Sisters"?

>>51598736
Okay, now I'm confused. If you want a non-assault version for custodes, why not just use the coronus grav-carrier?

>>51598776
If only there was some sort of book or possibly an imaged derivative thereof that we could read.

>>51598776
It's only the forgeworld unique ones, but they do have the ability to be outfitted sort of like the 40k ones

>>51598778
sounds right. they probably had to make sure the right tourists were in the photos too

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>>51598776
They can also be taken in Reductor, they can't be compulsory choices in either of them unless there's a Titan of some kind along for the ride.

Rules PDF.

>>51598794
Because I like the model. And I don't want to just use it as the Codollus due to their very different designs and I don't want to fuck it with silly conversions. I wouldn't mind taking it with a cheap unit of Sisters, but then I'd have to have a Sister HQ, and you can't have 2 HQ in an Allied Detachment.

>>51598554
You really fail to contribute. Tripfag.

>>51598874

Cuckstodes and AWG should buddy up.

Anyone have that picture of a BA dreadnought absolutely decked out with Assault Cannons? Like 4 on each arm, nipple cannons, etc?

>>51598836
>>51598822
>>51598812

Goddamn it. I just put in an order for some peltasts. They're useless in Reductor because Thallax are compulsory, and I feel like just having them "there" in a regular list loses out on the special variants.

>>51598924
Do want to see.

>>51598906
>play games of >5000 points because custodes are so expensive vs 1000 wolves
>every game ends when Leman or the Tribune get killed in the inevitable challenge and the owner concedes

>>51598906
no

>>51598836
>Take the Matrix of Ruin, all the Siege Engines, multiple Vultarax, some Ursarax, some Myrmidon Destroyers, a Warhound and enjoy your Secutarii troops
>If Thallax are still compulsory then just bring them too
Oh my.

>>51598965
>implying russ or the cuckstode king are actually killable in a 6 turn normal game

>>51598983
This

It would be cool if Blackshield Reaver Lords could take up to two psychic mastery levels.

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Now we know their rules, who does win in a fight between five custodes and a dozen gal vorbak?

>>51599001
Gotta keep in mind that the Custodes just have vanilla spears, one dude with a hueg sword of huegness and no shields on any of them.

>>51598995
it would be cool if blackshield reaver lords could reroll invuln saves

>>51598995
Not a bad idea. Could even by tied into a wrought by war thingy, representing a company that got told to fuck off for being too psychic for their own good.

>>51599001
What kind of custodes?
>>51598993
Russ is only as tough as any primarch, and who amongst us hasn't killed a primarch?

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>>51599046
>Russ is only as tough as any primarch
you mean any primarch that can only be hit on 6's after the 1st turn of combat

>>51599046
As long as it isn't Mortarion, all numbered mistakes bow down to the graviton imploder corps.

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>>51599068

>>51599074
By the way, ignore Mr. Invisible Magnus :^V

>>51598489
Tartaros power fist cut off to fit the top of Custodian arm.

What unit are Solarite Power Gauntlets good on?

>>51599069
Oh, you're one of those dumbasses who only knows the tactics of having a deathstar-off.

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>>51599078
>80,000-90,000 Legiones Astartes there were approximately 62,000 present on Prospero by judgement of after action reports

I knew they'd be increased in size.

>>51599027
>>51599038
Purely from a fun perspective. No force weapon (because broke ass), just straight mastery levels that can be rolled from any of the schools of magic.

Maybe even purchase a third level as a different upgrade:

Empyrean Amplifier

Perils on any doubles.

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>>51599068
>>51599078

Old Albia must be half of Terra, considering all the dudes who were drawn from there. Are they still on about the British Empire and the sun never setting on it?

>>51599001
Gal Vorbak only have a 3+ save & 5++?

Even custodes with spear will rek them.

>>51599111
With no oceans, Old Albia probably consists of all of the British Islands and Western Europe combined.

>>51599101
Instead of the former 10k right? I mean, it's a change but a good one. 10k TS killing so many SW would have been weird otherwise.

The bit that I approve is FW clearly saying the original orders were to bring back Magnus to Terra.

>>51599068
why wasn't Magnus the emperors favourite son? He was closest in ability, actively met the Emperor through psychic contact and could have repiared the rift between the Imperium and the psykers. He also had pretty pure intentions and could've helped the Imperium resist chaos.

>>51599001
I wish FW would make more plain style custodes shoulders. The models get busy with all the details. Would be nice to have simpler style pieces for less elite units.

>>51599068
>982 cuckstodes
why didnt they just fucking send them to istvaan V? thats easily enough of them to kill 4 traitor legions

>>51599111

It's GW, they're going to shill the UK to high heaven.

>>51599163
Interestingly enough, I imagine Magnus wouldn't have been redacted, but rather sat on the throne to shore up the Imperial palace while papa Emps fucked the Chaos gods Into oblivion.

The fact that Magnus was able to project himself through the webway probably surprised the Emperor and made him realize his son was more of a psychic threat than he anticipated.

>>51599074
Indeed. Mortarion instead bows to the Lachrimallus or the clone-swarms. Honestly, hes the most problematic Primarch for Admech to deal with short of maximum BS Magnus.

>>51599085

You can still charge invisible bastards, though. Enjoy the levies, captain 4A base.

>>51599149
And most of asia has the Emprah's giant golden apartment sat on top of it.
>>51599172
Because the Emperor is anti-psykers in the short term.

>>51599179
But they're not all shield captains.

>>51599172
Pretty much the reason why the original order was to bring him to Terra instead of trying to [REDACT] him.
>>51599163
Same

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Can you rate my list please ?

>>51599227
if 4 of them were shield captains thats all it would take.

mathematically it probably wouldnt even take 4 shield captains to kill horus, morty, fulgrim and angron, could probably just do it with like 3 of them

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>>51599210
Uhuh, sure just try to catch me
*teleports behind you*
>>51599184
Also this.

>>51599208
MoM had Zmpy going all "Failure is xorse and treason, Magnus fucked it all up, Chaos won the minute Magnus broke the Webway, yada yada", but it's ADB after all.

I like to believe that the Heresy could have gone very differently had the Sons come with the SW withiut violence, and Magnus judged by the Emperor, potentially, as you said, being tasked to fix his shit so that the Emperor can do something else.

Honestly, of all the Traitor Primarchs, I'd like him to turn Loyalist again. I had a tiny hope he'd be "renegadd" in the Warzone Fenris books, with Russ popping out of the Eye too corrupted to be loyalist, while Magnus tries to help the Imperium from afar.

>>51599255
>crunch equals fluff hurrr

Anon, use your brain sometimes.

>>51599255
Hmmm. Four shield captains.... Primarchs.... warrior elites that fight independently.....

982 custodes = 91 sodalities.

Vs 400,000 astartes, vehicles and auxilla...

Hmmmm........

>>51599179
Maybe it's true that the Emperor meant for the Astartes to whittle themselves down.

(No, it does not explicitly say that anywhere, and if it's hinted in Master of Mankind it's not strongly at all. We've just always assumed that the Emperor had to have seen the Heresy coming, and thought it would be okay as long as Magnus was brought back to Terra to help out with Golden Throne duties.)

>>51599001

Gal Vorbak attack = 36 attacks
= 6 Rending + 12 Hits
= 3 Rending + 6 Hits
= 1 Rend Save (5++) + 5 2+ saves
= 3 Unsaved wounds
Custodes Attack = 15 Attacks
= 9.5 Hits (incl. Lightning blows)
= 4.75 Wounds
= 1.583 5++ saves
= 3.167 Wounds

Custodes put up a good fight, but they get wrecked on sheer numbers

>>51599292
>replying to cuckanon
You can't win.

One thing to consider when talking about perils is that TSons will mostly spam 1WC shit like Prescience, Precognition, Smite, Iron Arm, Levitation, Shriek and so on. Only two spells that would require more than three dice are Invisibility and Maelstrom/Molten Beam on termies, neither of which are something you precisely need. That, and sometimes you'll throw more dice so opponent can't deny.

Still, you'd mostly see WC1 buffs, and those don't peril very often. Especially with that 10pts upgrade, you may be surprised how little the Sons will peril.

>>51599268
Fought him a few times, he's a problem but having one Thrall horde wrapping the arty/any Thanatars and another round the Command Squad if they're not in a Macrocarid is usually fine. You just make Cybernetica really damn sad, we hear them crying at night. Unless there's 100 Levies filling everywhere, then you can't do shit.

>>51599292
so you are saying BL overrules FW?

>>51599337
Can you relax? You've been screaming for the past five or six breads. Is your group of 14 also sperging autists?

Relax anon. Nobody cares that your World Eaters are shit. Or that your Primarch is the shittiest in man fights.

Sperg out, but then fuck off afterwards.

>>51599374
ironic

anyone got a Garro epub hookup?

>>51599298
Hey, it's not like it wasn't done before
Where the combined forces led by not-then Warmaster Horus, not-then Praetorian Dorn and already-consumated Agricultor Prime Mortarion (a force of about 320000 astartes) were on the verge of being defeated by orks, the Emperor at the head of 10000 Custodes saved them and lost only three dudes.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Battle_of_Gyros-Thravian

>>51599374
Why is it so hard just to stop replying to him?

>>51599393
Have you not been posting every chance you get in an argumentative fashion? One that goes against the groups shift into topics of greater value than chanting cuckstodes every chance you get? Did you not post about your 100 inducti and then refuse to post pictures because "muh opsec"?

How would calling you out for your behavior be Ironic? Is any of the above innacurate in some way?

>>51599468
Read >>51599441
You fuck.

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Thunder Warrior models/rules when?

>>51599468
J-just c-calm down anon. S-stop posting pls. R-ree-reelax.

R-R-REEEELAX CALM DOWN F-FUCK OFF S-STOP B-BULLYING MY SAFESPACE R-REEEEEEE.

wait for it... wait for it...

cuckstode.

Muh Blackshields.

I hella want to see if the Custode Pauldrons are Terminator size, would be a nice touch to include a scavenged pauldron.

HQ [ 2 ]
Blackshield Reaver Lord (172pt.)
-Cataphracti-Terminator Armour, Power Axe, Volkite Charger

Centurion Librarian Consul ( 157 pt.)
-Cataphracti-Terminator Armour, Power Axe, Volkite Charger
-Mastery level 2

Elites [ 3]
Legion Rapier Weapons Battery ( 195 pt .)
3x Laser Rapier Destroyers

Apothercarion Detachment ( 150 pt. )
3x apothecary
3x Augury Scanner

Legion Terminators
10x Cataphracti Terminators
-power axes

Troops [ 5 ]
Blackshield Marauders
20x Blackshield Marauders ( 325 pt.)
-20 Astartes Shotguns

Blackshield Marauders
20x Blackshield Marauders ( 325 pt.)
-20 Astartes Shotguns

Legion Tactical Support
10x Legion Tactical Supports ( 175 pt. )
-10 Volkite Chargers

Legion Tactical Support
10x Legion Tactical Supports
-10 Volkite Calivers

Legion Tactical Support
5x Legion Tactical Supports
-5 Volkite Culiverns

Fast Attack [ 1 ]
10x Seekers ( 255 pt.)
-10 Pariah Bolters

Heavy Support [ 3]

2x Leviathan Siege Dreadnaughts ( 620 pt. )
-1 Storm Cannon
-1 Cylconic Melta Lance
-2 Twin Linked Volkite Caliver
-2 Armoured Ceramite

10x Legion Heavy Supports ( 285 pt. )
-10 Missile Launchers

1x Legion Medusa

>>51599496
Isn't there a Blackshields combination that pretty much covers them? I don't think their lifespans were long enough to really make it to the Heresy, so I wouldn't expect models until FW wraps up this series of books and starts releasing stuff from other eras.

>>51599496
Blackshield Option 1 Chymeraie.>>51599528

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>>51599468
>>51599374
+++INITIATING INFORMATIVE CAPSULE+++
Fellow anons of /HHG/.
The quoted posts are examples of what happens when you fully trust the not!Sentience of the Cybernetica Cortex.
Baited into logic-traps, more obvious than the fucking Iron Cage, the enemy can lure them away from their mission, encircle them and easily remove the threat they pose from the main battlefield.

If you're fielding a unit of Battle-automata, always issue them a Cortex Controller unit, and keep them in Line of Sight.

</end>
///END+OF+TRANSMISSION///

>>51599528
There is.

The Primarch of the Thunder Warriors created a solution to their genephage by creating geneseed.

Pretty much Thunder Warrior geneseed.

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>>51599511
Wrought by War trait?

>>51599528
>a Blackshields combination that pretty much covers them?

Really? Must have missed that.

>>51599561
Chymeraie option 1. It's sort of like a RoW, so I'll end up switching it whenever.

>>51599578
It's more like a legion rule than a RoW.

Also, weenie hut general is down the road.

>>51599601
You declare your wrought by war trait before deployment.

>>51599636
You tell your opponent what legion you're using before deployment.

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Is painter's tape safe to use on models? Trying to go for pic related and I don't want to peel my paint off. Not exactly the same stuff as house paint.

>>51599653
Hey I'm playing Blackshields Outlanders.

Next game:

Hey I'm playing Blackshield Chymeraie option 3

Rinse and repeat.

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>>51599653
>You tell your opponent what legion you're using before deployment.
Like, what do you even mean?

>>51599664
Acrylics form a seal around the model after drying, you would probably be fine.

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>>51599557
Arik wasn't a Primarch, he was just a particularly gnarly Thunder Warrior.

>>51599674
And I'll keep switching legions too.

The fluff doesn't matter, right?

>>51599664
Tamiya makes a masking tape specifically for models. You can also use silly putty. If you're nervous (and I would be - I've had masking tape disasters before), give it a coat of varnish first.

>>51599704
>fluff
>mattering

>>51599398
>Garro
Here
http://www42.zippyshare.com/v/mqH5XANl/file.html

>>51599697
He was bigger and tougher than the regular Thunder Warriors. In Outcast dead he talks about how the Emperor gave him knowledge and his life for his service to the Imperium.

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>>51599679
:^)

>>51599697
That's why he knows what he knows about geneseed and the Emperor's science.

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One that note: night lords players, how mad will you be if your local thousand son player changes his army's "mutable cult" to athanean whenever he plays you?

>>51599177
>less elite units.
You don't really go in a downward direction like that for living things forged and blessed by the Emperor's own hand.

>>51599697
Would a Primarch have a navel if they weren't even made in a placenta, but geneforged in a tube?

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>>51599740
Yeah, I do remember that. I still think it was meant more that he's just an unusually powerful Thunder Warrior, not a proto-Primarch though.

Thunder Warriors don't have geneseed, their creation sounds more like the individually tailored enhancement the Custodes get, the Emprah never made more than a few regiments of them so they didn't need a Primarch-proxy to act as a genetic template for mass production.

It's not like there aren't also examples of fuckheug Astartes.

>>51599817
So, why aren't all FOC slots filled with identical units with all the same options and rules?

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>>51599805
>Mutable Cult
Kek
Psychic powers shouldn't be reliable.
To further add fuel to the ragefire, here's the SoH using Terror Tactics.

>>51599734
at first i thought anon delivered but then anon disappointed :(

>>51599875
lol, what?

>>51599909
So it was Malifica and now your computer has developed Abominable Intelligence?

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>>51599831
>Navels

Primarchs have no such mortal deformities symptomatic of being carried by feeble wimmin. They are pure.

>>51599919
Well, if all Custodes are equal and there's no hierarchy, shouldn't the Custodes army just be one unit entry you can use for all the slots?

>>51599875
Custodes are built on a individual basis, some are just going to turn out better than others.

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>>51599948
>He even looks like the Emperor
I'm certain Emps was virile enough he could get men pregnant, and He was alive long enough that He may have done so.
My sides have been sundered.

>>51599869
What's wierd is the geneseed isn't reguLarily interchangeable between the space marines and the Thunder Warriors.

April Taranis spent the years before outcast deads events attempting to take astartes geneseed and make it usable by the Thunder Warriors. There are instances in the book where he revas geneseed with cancerous or dead growths on it.

That directly implies splicing Thunder Warrior genetic matter into it.

>>51599966
So, some are more elite than others?

>>51599664
Pulling off painters tape from models causes a chemical reaction that induces a chain reaction which leads to a small nuclear blast. Extreme caution is adviced, as well as a minimum safe distance from any nearby settlements.

JK it should not be causing any issues unless the model was still rather greasy from the release agent. People here use it all the time for making decent looking hazard stripes

Alpharius lives

>>51599988
>IW players
>people

>>51599982
If you want to move at a monolithic pace, yes.

>>51599869
Which is hella cool if you think about it. Geneseed is self replicatable, from that single geneseed that had been spliced with Ariks genetic material, he had the ability to make a Legion as their Primarch.

>>51599988
>Pulling off painters tape from models causes a chemical reaction that induces a chain reaction which leads to a small nuclear blast. Extreme caution is adviced, as well as a minimum safe distance from any nearby settlements.
>JK
You'd be surprised
>Generation of X-rays produced by Scotch tape.
http://www.nature.com/news/2008/012345/full/news.2008.1185.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQBjRF9mX1Y

>>51600039
How do they differentiate different units/ranks from one another? How do they tell that dude there is a captain and that dude there is a stock spearman?

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I recognize that gnarly helmet and pointy stick!

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>>51599988
Indeed. I'll add that I ever had one instance of masking paint taking paint off, and it was on thi metal model where I tried to apply a single coat of yellow paint directly onto the model after scraping away a ridge. After an actual priming and painting instead of trying to rush it, you can barely see it.
>>51600031
Well that's not very nice.

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>>51600084
>I recognize that gnarly helmet and pointy stick!
Puh-lease.
Somebody post the Sons of Horus Autilon mask concept art.

>>51600073
The captain is the one beating the Primarchs face in, the stock spearman is the one having trouble fending off a terminator.

>>51600045
>Legion of Thunder Warriors

Shame GW has basically forgotten about that whole plot arc

>>51599307
You are forgetting the Dark Martyr with a Str 10 power fist and 3 wounds.

>>51600130
Note that you also can't fit 12 models into a Gal Vorbak squad anon.

It was a theoretical.

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>>51600113
I find it mind-boggling that Blanche has managed to churn out 40k artwork pretty much continuously for the past 30 years and still make zero improvement in terms of actual artistic skill.

Does have some cool designs/ideas though.

>>51600066
kek.

>>51600086
>Well that's not very nice.
I think it is time for everybody to accept the fact that others are going to give their favorite armies shitty nicknames. Yes, even the golden banana boys

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>>51600113

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>>51600171
True. And yes, he can make everything look interesting AND red as fuck.
>>51600185
Thank you. Is this one from the girl that draws everyone's faces in the HH books?

>>51600117
Shame that BL started it in the first place. Geneseed is not some kind of miracle cure-it-all medicine. It has to be implanted in not yet fully developed children, and male at that, otherwise it results in death. How it supposedly cures a centuries old, falling apart from all the fucked up juicing the Emperor did on him Thunder Warrior is beyond me.

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>>51600171
He can do clean stuff when he need to.

I don't mind his style. It's more of a mood board than snapshots of actual events.

>>51600242
wasnt that the book where some naked WE killed a cuckstode with his barehands?

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>>51600242
>How it supposedly cures a centuries old, falling apart from all the fucked up juicing the Emperor did on him Thunder Warrior is beyond me.
Because people at BL played Bioshock, I guess.

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>>51600175
Bitter Boyz are fine for me thank you very much.

>>51600213
And then they immediately forgot about kroot forever.

>>51600213
I'm not certain. Her work in the books has a certain CGI look, while the guy's looks like it was done with pencil, so I'd say it's the latter's.

>>51600266
Yep. Because RAGE beats the best arms, armour, mental conditioning, and physical enhancement the Emperor can provide. Somehow.

>>51600279
Now I understand why Ferrus had a goddamn wrench as a weapon on Fulgrim's cover.

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>>51600283
Trenchniggers is also fine. We do share a rule with the Wallniggers after all.
>>51600294
And people who use CGI (which I don't think it's the case with faces) can't sketch from time to time?
I obviously didn't even understand your comment, of course.

>>51598034
>going with red but not enough white to differentiate them
WEW LARP
>>51598121
Never as Sscanon lost his scanner and no one else is willing to slash the spine
>>51598489
Just fists with more cables and painted red

>>51600307
Rage is second in power only to rule of cool.

>>51600353
No, it's because that Cust had a fungal infection that gave him the I2 melee race.
That's why he wasn't fit for combat in the first place.

It was hella dumb to be honest

>>51600213
Is the art of the other alternatives available anywhere? I'm curious what we did not get.

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>>51598240

So for TS veterans, plain bolters with shred or combi plasma?

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>>51600386
Silly hats and the statue of liberty, pretty much

>>51600185
I love the Oni mask designs. Fits quite well with the muhreen's warrior-monk theme I think.

Custodes list for rating

HQ
Constantin Valdor 275
Elites
Contemptor-Achillus 240
- Achillus Spear
Hetaeron Squad 388
- 4 Members
- Paragon Spears
- Praesidium Shields
- Shrikes
Troops
Custodes Guard Squad 335
- 5 Members
- Shrikes
- Adrasite Spears
Custodes Guard Squad 335
- 5 Members
- Shrikes
- Adrasite Spears
Custodes Guard Squad 335
- 5 Members
- Shrikes
- Adrasite Spears

Fast Attack

Pallus Grav-Attack 85

Heavy Support

Caladius Grav-Tank 230
- Arachnus
- Armoured Ceramite
Caladius Grav-Tank 230
- Arachnus
-Armoured Ceramite

2453/2500

>>51600445
>Paragon Spears
You mean Paragon Blades right?

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>>51600442
I also love them, but mostly because I love all sort of masks. And cloaks.
But marines in 30k are pragmatists, the only monks are the DA and WB

Can you rate my list please ?


+++ Kazemir III (30k) (Warhammer 30,000 - The Horus Heresy v49) (1500pts) +++

++ The Age of Darkness (Mechanicum: Taghmata Army List v32) (1065pts) ++

+ HQ (390pts) +

········Magos Reductor (390pts) [Archmagos Reductor, Augury Scanner, Conversion Beamer, Cortex controller, Photon Thruster]
············Scyllax Guardian-Automata Covenant [4x Scyllax Guardian-Automata]

+ Troops (330pts) +

········Thallax Cohort (165pts) [Destructor, Multi-melta, 3x Thallax]

········Thallax Cohort (165pts) [Destructor, Multi-melta, 3x Thallax]

+ Heavy Support (345pts) +

········Thanatar-Calix Class Siege-Automata (345pts) [Enhanced Targeting Array, Paragon of Metal]

+ Legion +

········Legio [Ordo Reductor]

+ Force Organization +

········Force Organization
············Battles in the Age of Darkness [ Age of Darkness Primary Detachment]

++ The Age of Darkness (Solar Auxilia v24) (435pts) ++

+ HQ (120pts) +

········Legate Commander (120pts) [Lord Marshal]
············Relics of the Dark Age of Technology [Nanyte Blaster]

+ Elites (190pts) +

········Household Retinue Squad (190pts) [Auxilia Arvus Lighter Orbital Shuttle]

+ Troops (125pts) +

········Auxilia Infantry Tercio (125pts)
············Veletaris Storm Section [Nuncio-vox]

+ Force Organization +

········Force Organization
············Battles in the Age of Darkness [Allied Detachment]

>>51600520
Fix your damn formatting, we don't need to see a million plusses and which force org charts
>Relics
No.

>>51600492

Well yeah, but I honestly think they're meant to be Spears. We'll wait for the FAQ of course

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>>51600492
Nope.
True Custodian weapons.

>>51600492
Not same person but is the spear/blade thing a typo in the book?

>>51600514
They still have a pretty monastic lifestyle even in 30k.

>No girls allowed
>Spend all their free time meditating or training
>Fanatically devoted to the cause

>>51600117
No, it was dumb as fuck.

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>>51600558
Include "listbuilding/painting minis" as a form of meditating/training and you just described the average neckbeard.

>>51597942
whats the inv save for the custodes shields? the description in the pdf just says its a re-rollable inv save but not what the save actually is.

>>51600553
Yeah, but Heteron get access to blades.
>>51600552
I doubt it, the spears seem like a shield-captain only deal like how blades are praetor only for marines.

>>51600586
Yes, you reroll it
:^)

>>51600586
All custodes already have invulns so have you considered that they reroll all invulns?

>>51600548
Sorry for the formating, next time i'll fix this

>no relics
Why ?

i like how the cuckstode king can take a cyber familiar, not even from just a purely gamebreaking perspective, but from a fluff perspective. like even primarchs dont take cyber familiars, its just tech nerd war gear yet cuckstode king gets one just because

>>51600608
terminators already have invulnerable saves, yet storm shields have a different inv save. why would i think they changed it now?

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>>51598430

>>51600588
>I doubt it, the spears seem like a shield-captain only deal like how blades are praetor only for marines.

Whats the point in putting Paragon Blades in there then? no-one else uses them in the custards, and you may as well never pick up the Het because they're too expensive unless they have the AP2 you need.

>>51600664
Because storm shields don't say that they let the model equipped with one reroll all invulns fucktard.

>>51600664
but thanks for responding.

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>>51600651

Go home anon, you're too angry about plastic men to be on the internet

>>51600683
Are

Are you seriously arguing that you can't have a wargear option without multiple units getting access to it?

>>51600705
>the triggered faggot who keeps crying about people having a different opinion than him is now trying to call others autistic
priceless

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Why is warhammer scale all over the fucking place? Why are marines such manlets?

>>51600705
>someone replying to him yet again
At this point I can only hope it's you just samefagging so you can argue with yourself.

>>51600713
Every mention of paragon in the custodes list is mention of spears and not blades is all I'm saying.

>>51600634
Relics are campaign/consent only. Not gets usage at all.

>>51600725
If I had to put my finger on it, I would say it's for production purposes. It's cheaper to mass produce the generic nobodies at slightly over guard scale than go full on Terminator scale or the like.

>>51600725
You're comparing a a daemon to a marine in that photo.

>>51600755
Yes, all two of them.

>>51600725
>Why is warhammer scale all over the fucking place?

Because Warhammer is all about style over substance so even the scale is more heroic than an actual scale. In the case of your picture thats a normal marine vs a mutated hulk made of demon(s).

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>>51600689 dude, the initial white dwarf rules literally said what im saying. why woudlnt i think its a typo. why are you being such an asshole?

>>51600725
Horus Heresy should have been entirely truescale.

I'll fight anyone who disagrees.

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>>51600804
It really should've been. Age of assmar is basically true scale.

>>51600778
Alright, I'll wait for the FAQ and drop them for a Tribune if it remains blades

>>51600799
>the outdated ruleset says something different
Did you misread the entire psychic phase as 6th ed rules too?

>>51600799
>why are you being such an asshole?
he has severe autism

>>51600777
No mister trips its marine compared to a marine. One just happens to think having a daemon in him was a good idea.

>>51600833
>Did you misread the entire psychic phase as 6th ed rules too?
the entry is virtually identical besides one omission. im not allowed to ask if im missing something.

>>51600825
>Implying muhreen models basically just being fat guardsmen isn't dumb as fuck

>>51600867
Oh no I ain't implying that. I want my true scale marines. Hate reading about how they are massive fucking demigods of war in the fluff just for them to be manlets on the table top.

>>51600825
Tau are xenolets. And the old dude is hunched and wizened.

Also I liked that short story because the Imperial diplomat trying to pass off a space marine captain as just some regular human officer was a hilarious concept.

>>51600906
What was the story? The space marine in that photo is still fucking gigantic though. He also has a bitchin fur coat

>>51600768
Duh, my bad. In which book can i find relics rules ?

>>51600842
Fair enough. I'm just saying the daemon mucks up the anatomy. And the armor too, sometimes, for some reason.

I agree that the scale is bad, I'm just saying there are better examples.

>>51600896
>Failing to understand the concept of minature wargame

Most artwork has humans look so tiny besides marines because artistic freedom, and the fact that in the GrimDark conditions are probably so poor on a lot of worlds that humans don't grow that large (a 7 ft marine only has like 5'' on me) And a lot of the human models GW and FW make are waaay to big for 28mm scale.

Personally I'm very tired of people's obsession with the size of marine models.

>>51600896
I wonder if they'll use the current plotline and the new 40k edition coming out to pull a mini-Age of Sigmar and replace the muhreen's models with Sigmarine-scaled ones.

Seems odd they made the Sigmarines so big.

>>51600804
>Horus Heresy should have been entirely truescale
fuck no

>$90 rhinos that can actually fit ten marines in it
>$300 land raider spartans that take up a quarter of the table
>don't even want to think about the price of a fellblade, mastodon or stormbird

>n-no I just meant true scale infantry
With heroic scale vehicles and weapons? That's fucking dumb and you know it.

>>51600942
Somebody alert PETA !

Seriously, that complaint was as bad as the one about requesting a ban on shaving sheep. Wearing humans as decoration in a fictional setting is fine, but wearing an unidentified fur is where we draw the line people

>>51601003
Would be cool if they did. I want to start a space sharks army so that would be a good excuse. When do you think they'd do it?

>>51600942
It was in the first Tau codex along with that picture, basically that old guy is an Imperial diplomat and they're trying to get the Tau to fuck off a contested planet, and the Tau have invited them to their new colony (the one the Imperials want gone) to discuss it.

Story is basically them being taken on a tour of the colony by a fire warrior, prior to meeting the Ethereal in charge, seeing all the Tau tech up close, while the diplomat is trying to make the Imperium seem as scary as possible (hence trying to pass off the SM captain as an imperial guard officer) and act like he's not impressed by the Tau's tech. The marine just hates everything they're shown because it's xenos.

Then at the end the fire warrior reveals he's actually been the Ethereal all along and just wanted to observe them and laughs at the silly, unenlightened humans. Because it's a Tau codex story.

>>51601031
>Implying a Rhino can fit 10 (ten!) heroic-scale muhreens in it anyway

>>51600942
>What was the story?
3e tau codex, revolving around... nimbosa, I think?

nothing comes of it in that codex, but the battle for the planet ends with imperial fists, black templars and ultramarines arriving and killing all the tau

>>51601108
>killing all the tau
g-d bless

>>51601101
I'm saying it's FINE not to have "true scale" in a wargame, unless operating on a smaller scale, like 6mm, 8mm or 15mm. True scale at 28mm+ is retarded unless doing skirmish games, which 30k fucking isn't. And half-assed true scale is worse than the abstract heroic scale ever will be.

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>>51601125
I just want astartes that are bigger than guardsmen. Is that so much to ask?

>>51600634
>>no relics
>Why ?
Shortly after they came out everyone realized that some of them were way broken. We stopped using them.

The Thanatar-Calix is not highly regarded. Knights seem to do a lot more for the points... the Calix is great against fortifications (which aren't common to begin with), but it takes half the game to get there and in the meantime you've just got a single lascannon.

Using an allied detachment at 1500 points is a bit baffling. You don't get much out of it... why not just take tech-thralls? A Triaros beats an Arvus Lighter in most situations.

>>51601145
We could make the guardsmen smaller?

>>51601145
>metal 2e guard
>steel legion
>elysians
the scale on the rest of the guard is fucked, but that's not the marines faults

and "true" scale cause more problems than they solve, outside of straight scale comparisons with plastic cadians

>>51599545
This was even gayer than the two queers arguing.

>>51601174
Only if Tau are made even smaller than that.

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>>51601145
>>51601174
Reminder that the Latest SM releases, aka Deathwatch, has some slightly bigger marines, especially on the legs.

A potential change of scale, notably with new CSM kits and smaller, newer IG kits is therefore a possibility.

Am I correct in thinking that a Shield Captain can have both a Shield and a Paragon Spear as the spear technically isnt a two handed weapon and since its specialist it wont give a bonus attack anyway? I need to know because Im gonna model one and I'd rather not create something illegal.

>>51600975
Pretty sure the change was FAQ/newer book (6 maybe), but they're all in book 4

>>51601230
Can confirm 40K TS legs are taller than Mark 4. I ran out of ordinary legs while making a vet squad, so went Rubric legs / Mk4 chest for one guy (the rest are the other way around), and he's a smidge taller.

>>51601230
Man, that looks fucking awesome.

Are those Cataphractii legs?

>>51601230
They already changed base sizes on me, if they change scale three quarters of the way through my army building I'm going to have a stroke.

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I hope we get some new IG minis. The Cadians never fit the setting's aesthetic to my mind.

They doubly don't work as Imperial Army proxies. Too modern looking.

>>51601285
Chestpieces are maybe a millimeter taller, legs are the same size, but standing straight and with a slliiightly larger waist ball-joint dealie.

It's enough to be noticeable side by size, but only just. At least in the deathwatch's case, I haven't gotten any new rubrics.

>>51601327
Oh yes, new IG infantry models would be great. The only thing that has kept me from playing IG rather than marines is the fact that those cadia and catachan models are so damn ugly and oversized for 28mm.

Would also be a great excuse to finally add some human agents to my AL force.

>>51601327
The thing is, if they do, they kinda HAVE to do ALL THE ARMIES, or at least the famous regiments that already have an army, and that is already a metric fuckton.

So I don't kow how they would do that. Maybe a box like Scions where you can do rank and file OR a command squad? But then you have the problem for the special weapon teams. I dunno.

>>51601280
Indeed. If you reverse search the image you can very certainly find the whole thread where the guy makes it.

>>51601393
>greatcoat bodies
>heads for Vostroyan, Steel Legion, Valhallan, generic IG regiment

It's not that hard.

Hopefully Cadia being nuked is a sign that GW has new IG infantry planned.

>>51601204
Oh we got a Malifica result! The Battle-automata has lost all processing ability and can only suck mayor dick now.

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>>51601393
Thats easy, do a greatcoat kit that has a body with greatcoats as one bit, arms with different weapons, different heads for certain regiments (Big cossack hat for Vostroyans, Soviet army hat for Valhalans, Stallhelm plus gas mask for Steel Legion) and furs to go on the ends of the coats for the respective regiments. You could just split the box and sell conversion kits for different regiments and you got yourself a 'Make your own great-coat Guard!".

Mordians are fucked and Cadians/Catachan can be rolled into one, just re-make Cadians into the more Aliens/Vietnam look they had in artwork and add muscle arms/heads for catachans and normal bits for Cadians.

Both boxes would come with enough bits to also create one Heavy Weapons team.

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>>51601430
I thought about that, but the devil is in the details, especially with the new level of details they can put out.
I did think the same as you with Cadia being kill. Hopefully some good stuff coming our way with 8th ed. Based Rountree has probably another good surprise up his sleeve.

>>51601409
Yeah, I'm looking at them now.

I love the scaled stuff like this, especially since these ones are bulked out too.

Imagining one of those things moving faster than is possible for any regular man, makes the 'transhuman dread' the regular human troops are supposed to get frozen by in the novels when fighting astartes pretty believable.

>>51601230
Didn't they already update the tacticals kit recently? I can't imagine they'd do it again so soon.

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>>51601453
Man, Cadians with the old style and/or rolled up sleeves are so damn cool.

Alternatively, give them all the gasmask, I don't like faces.

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>>51601327
Anon, the Host of Brass, present at Prospero, uses modern ballistic firearms.
All aesthetics are valid, and I don't know why should the Imperial Army dress as Vostroyans, especially because they didn't help Terra.
I guess russia was to 30k as Cadia was to 40k? They were the norm?

>>51601481
They did. Devastator and Assault too. But as we said, the problem is not necessarily with the marines (evrn though I prefer them taller and bigger) but more with the fact that the baseline humans have even wonkier proportion like guardsmen with fuckhuge rifles, hands and heads.

>>51601460
>The devil is in the details
Detailled armies confirmed to be secret Shai-tan cultists

>>51601489
I like being able to see their faces, reinforces the point they're just regular humans, without a bunch of fancy kit and/or enhancements.

Leave the faceless super-soldier look to the Skitarii.

>>51598836
>unless there's a Titan of some kind along for the ride
does a knight count as a titan? the porphyrion is better than a warhound anyway

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>>51601502
Just doesn't fit to my mind. When I think of Great Crusade/Heresy Era uniforms, I think lots of fur, polished breastplates, long-barrelled lasguns.

Helps to seperate them from the 'modern' Imperial Guard of 40k.

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>>51601562
Maybe Vostroya dresses like that not because it's hella cold, but instead they simply kept the original uniform!
The previous uniform was a tshirt and some shorts. They don't feel cold after all.

>>51601562
Has that Alpha Legion colour scheme been used anywhere else?

>>51601150
I wanted some Solar auxilia because I really like their design

>>51601150
and because I also wanted some funny anti horde force

>>51601654
I think it's the go-to colour scheme for BL

>>51601453
>M.37
>be recruited in tithe
>be in space Da Nang
>be killing xenos
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec0XKhAHR5I

Does anyone have the latest shitpost image with the emperor being confirmed (always confirmed I know) via the rules on the new custodes shit?

>>51601764
Why would that one be shitposting? If anything, it just causes
The
Looks

>>51601393
They really don't have to do all the armies. Back when they did Cadians and Catachans in plastic, they could have also chosen from Valhallans, Tallarns, and Mordians. Those five had a full range of metal minis. Praetorians had recently been added but I don't know if they ever had all the support units, like heavy weapon teams. They looked like Mordians with a head swap anyway. Vostroyans came later. But anyway, there were 5-7 metal ranges and they chose two when they went to plastic.

If they release two new ranges, I'd be happy. And yes, they should be smaller. Valhallans would be good, especially because they're pretty easy to turn into Vostroyans. Maybe they'd also do Mordians because, like Cadians, they have a modern real-world look which is what a lot of people actually want. Not that it's real-worldly to fight in parade uniform.

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>>51601764
It is literally confirmed though.

>>51601784
Half the time it's just in threads going "can you fuckers believe this"

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>>51601796

>>51601270
>so went Rubric legs / Mk4 chest for one guy (the rest are the other way around), and he's a smidge taller.

Rubric Marines just stand straighter.
Common mk4 have the squat.

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>>51601722
Pic related is the best book I ever read about Nam. Absolutely crazy shit. And the worst part? It's just random anonymous soldiers and nurses talking about it, cut in little stories, it's not aggravated for the purpose of story telling. So you get those scenes of horrendous friendly fire (so many of those) or terrible acts, then out of nowhere you get an anecdote about one dude making a whole firewatch perimeter laugh with a fart.
That war was fucked man. Interestingly enough, I went on to read the White Donkey, by the guy who does Terminal Lance, and the struggles of the soldier coming home are still the same, 50 years later: "Have you killed anyone?" "How dare you fought those dudes?!" And "Thank you for your service" might as well be trigger phrases at this point.

Anyhoo. On a more joyful note, Hamburger Hill is probably yhe best Vietnam War movie, or at least closest to the absurd realiy than it was, even if it still miles away from what is described in the bok mentionned above.

>>51599172

Because he was an arrogant faggot and consoled with daemons on the reg.

>>51601796
>imply emps will have rules
>HH becomes increasingly popular
>FW pressured to keep stretching it out with books
>siege of terra is always a book or two away
>never happens

>>51601654
The earlier BL HH books came out before the first FW book. They only really had 40k fluff and Index Astartes to go off of, and the standard 40k Alpha Legion scheme was dark blue with green highlights and silver trim.

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Some interesting tidbits here. Both Lion and Corax wanted Magnus Censured at Nikaea, and Guilliman was a non-vocal supporter of the Librarius.

>>51601859
at this point the scouring is going to be more interesting anyway

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>>51601887
HH1 a best

>>51601836
>consoled
He sat with them and commiserated on being gulled by the Emperor, or he teamed up with Kairos for a night of Soul Calibur on the Dreamcast?

>>51601527
Nope, got to be explicitly a Warhound, Reaver or Warlord IIRC. Rules PDF is there in my last post. If you want them running with Knights you could always do a Secutarii alpha guy, a Magos Reductor and a couple Thallax, then whatever Secutarii you want, and then ally in a Knight detatchment, maybe led by Draykavac. It's not like two Thallax units are much of a tax, they're decent harassing, fast objective grabbers and tough enough to need dedicated firepower to shift.

>>51601901
I swear they read lexicanum.

>>51601901
>curze was pro psyker
weird

>>51601920
Considering the Chaos boner from BL writers, it's going to become something where loyalists did fuck all, lost all their battles and the traitors were actually ordered by their gods to retreat in orderly fashion because now is not the time to finish the job. Or some bullshit like that.

>>51602007
What makes you say that?

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>>51601901
>Dorn
>Known not to favour their use
>But priorly on record as not strongly opposing their use in other legions than his own
>Known however to favour Magnus' censure
Stoic as fuck.
>Dorn, Lion & Corax
>We don't quite care about Librarians
>Fuck Magnus though
Funny, but actually based. I agree.
So most of them did want the Librarius, but Magnus ruined it all for them with his rampant unchecked sorcery. As I thought.

Also
>Ordo Astra Telepathica Occulex-Magister
>Jalisco de Jerichos Huerta
Whaaaaaaat
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jalisco

>>51602018
Anon Curze had daily therapy sesions with a dream eater.

>>51601792
>But anyway, there were 5-7 metal ranges and they chose two when they went to plastic.
They chose one when they went plastic. Cadians didn't get plastics for another 7 years.

>>51602028
>BL writers
hopefully most of them will be dead before the scouring

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>>51602145
>hopefully most of them will be dead before the scouring
>hopefully
Not with that attitude, anon.

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>>51602140
Or GW gives no fucks, makes the whole damn range in plastic, with the new release of the IG being the biggest release in quite some time, lasting several months, with several regiments, and our wallets are sucked into oblivion.

>>51602245
Jesus fuck why hadn't you posted this marvelous image earlier?
It's fucking perfect!
Even the Commissar threatening to kill him.

>>51602282
The commissar is as great a threat to the guardsman's well being as the rest of them

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Would a ravenwing corvus hammer look good or terrible as a master crafted thunder hammer for an IF Praetor?

>>51602431
Looks decent.

>>51601859
They said 15-20 books total. Let's guess what that'll look like:

1 - Isstvan III – EC, WE, DG, SoH
2 - Isstvan V – NL, IH, WB, Sal
3 - Isstvan V and early battles – IW, IF, RG, AL
4 – Early Heresy – Knights, Solar Auxilia, campaign system
5 – Calth & Shadow Crusade – UM, WB, Cults & Militia
6 – Xana & other small-scale actions – Blackshields, Shattered Legions, Army of Dark Compliance
7 – Prospero – SW, TS, Talons of the Emperor
8 – Signus, Sarum, Thramas, BA go to Terra – DA, BA, Daemons, Dark Mechanicum

9 – Mars – Mechanicum (incorporating GW plastics), Knights
10 – (final Early Heresy book) –WS vs chaosy EC and their trip to Terra, SW vs AL, Imperium Secundus
11 – Tallarn & other tankfests – Imperial Army or SA, IW (tank-based armies for both)
12 – Dwell & Molech, March to Terra – SoH with daemons, Imperial Army, Knights, DG
13 – Anvilus and other battles just before the Solar Campaign – increasingly daemonic traitor legions
14 – Solar War – Dorn and Alpharius models released
15 – Martian Civil War concludes
16 – Siege of Terra, part 1 – less focus on the palace: EC go nuts on civilians, WS & Imperial Army retake the spaceport
17 – Siege of Terra, part 2 – at the palace: IW vs IF, Sang vs. Ka’bandha, daemons vs Custodes downstairs, Emps beams up
18 – Siege of Terra, part 3 – Emperor vs Horus, tactical retreat by the traitors, beginning of the Scouring

>>51602585
What happened on Sarum and Dwell?

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>>51602643
I don't know what "The Pacification of Sarum" was, but it's on FW's timeline slide. Sarum was the forge world with close ties to the World Eaters, so... I guess it gets pacified.

Dwell was a prelude to the Battle of Molech. Horus went there to speak to voices was resisted by... not sure who, but possibly UM, IH, and WS? Mortarion was there with him.

>>51602585
You'd think they'd finalize WS before mechanicum get new shinies

I have 10 volkites in the mail for a terror squad, though they won't be here until next month. Which armor makes for a better terror squad, MkIII or MKIV?

>>51603784
MkV

>>51602706
>Mortarion was there with him.
I want to know mooooooore!
Brotherly adventures a best.

>>51603798

I don't have MKV, so no go

>>51599078
So, do we know what the SoH were doing on prospero exactly? Or are they just gonna be a force reduced to having helped/ensure the space wolves got the job done

>SoH Overseeing/enforcers of the space wolves?

>>51604046
Yes we know, but that's a thing for next thread. Mainly because I'm going to go to bed real soon

>>51604071

>>51604071

>>51604071