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"Metzen should write for GW" Edition

>>51575143
Previous Thread

>Dank Daily Duncan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cA_VKgWzSQ [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]

> 40k reference in wiki format
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Rules and such. Use Readium for epubs. Sorry, it's shit but it'll read 3s.
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW attempts to fuck up your list
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>THIS IS THE ROSTER CREATOR, please ask for it anyway!
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>The Black Library (Can someone get Gulliman a new copy of the kodex orkstartes, y)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
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Gulli will start a civil war
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>>51581685
>that embed chain
>it's still the same video
6/10 I kek'd.
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Any chance we get Sevatar or Talos instead of Curze as a NL character?
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>>51581702
We must not break the link, anon.
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>>51581651

Id see him working on Rogal dorn's story

>>51581674
DO IT ANON!

and show him TTS, if he already knows it.
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>Aeldari
rofl
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>>51581710
>TTS
Don't. It's pretty funny if you're a long time fan of 40k but on the surface it has a script that looks like it's written from someone who wrote a script of 40k according to 1d4chan.
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>>51581705
Or Honsou for that matter, I just want each of the legions to get a named character model.
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I think flyrants make the game slow and boring sue me
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>51581729
>look mom I posted it again!
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THIS IS A REMINDER

ORKS ARE A MELEE RACE
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>>51581705
Two dead night lords instead of one headless primarch?
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>orks are a melee race!
>i2
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>>51581773
Sevatar is just PRESUMED dead anon.
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>>51581729
Warhammer armies have always been named in the perceptive of the human. Now gw is changing their name to what the race calls themselves. It's like seraphim, everyone bitches about the name change yet since 2nd edition they called themselves seraphim, it was just the humans who called them lizard men. There is nothing wrong with the name
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>>51581685
>"Metzen should write for GW" Edition

Ninth(ish) for 8th Ed Orks: Codex Fallen to Chaos Subedition.

This is the only goddamn way I'll get monstrous creatures in the ork army.
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>>51581729
the name couldnt be any gayer, just like the playerbase
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LVO Finals. Dark Angels vs Renegades. Who will win?
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Seems like lots of things have happened in 40k recently that i've missed. Where's a good place to read up about the Fall of Cadia and the new Biel-Tan stuff?
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Why do people like AdMech? They are the lamest faction in the game, every single model looks exactly the same.
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So, can Skitarii Alphas and Datasmiths that are part of a Grand Convocation or just share an army with Cawl take the Arcana Mechanicum relics?

They should, right?

A Ranger squad with Arquebi or a Dominus' Maniple's 10-man, 3 Plasma Caliver squad with the Memento Mortispex sounds pretty fucking spicy.
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>>51581710
>>51581747

it would be nice if he saw the ideas that everyone had here, id love to see his take on the Imperium or chaos

>>51581795
There is chaos orks already but the 4 fuckwits thinks that it is a waste of time
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>>51581807
>relentless D
I'm on the DA side win or lose
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>>51581685
>The Matt Ward of Warcraft should write for GW
Why not just hire the real Matt Ward back?
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>>51581828
Because he is already hired back?
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>>51581828

Anon...
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>>51581828
Double negatives maybe?

Metz could maybe unfuck some of the stuff Ward fucked.
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>>51581824
I kinda want Slaanesh Orks in pursuit of an excess of Dakka
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>>51581828
I got bad news for you.
Ward is back, and he's responsible for the Triumvirate of the Primarch
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>>51581793
I agree, it perfectly fits the most homosexual faction in all 40k.
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>>51581904
Provide a motherfucking source you memespouting autist.
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>>51581905
>most homosexual faction in all 40k
Space Marines?
Nothing on Earth is as homoerotic as the SM fluff from the last 2 editions
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>>51581904
I doubt he's responsible for it, but I am happy he is back to work on the greatest of them all.
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>>51581947
You really doubt that Ward is responsible for more Ultramarine and Grey Knight wank?
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>>51581867
Metzen has been getting worse and worse and worse. The Warcraft lore has been complete shit for the entirety of the current decade. Hell, even his early short stories are crap. What Warcraft needs right now is to escape Metzen's artistic control, the same way Star Wars desperately needed to escape Lucas's.
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>>51581938
>SM
>homoerotic
I'd probably find manly men homoerotic too if I was some prissy Aeldari player

Which reminds me
>Aeldari
Top kek.
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>>51581919
Not him.

There is no source until we get the WD. In this month's WD, Phil Kelly says he was the one who wrote FoB. That's all we know for now.
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>>51581971
Metzen hasn't been working at Blizz for close to a year, and didn't actually write for WoW for years prior.
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>>51581828
Did you somehow miss the literal return of the spiritual liege, and his first act, the literal return of the spiritual liege model?
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>Matt Ward tweets he's hired by GW again
>month's later pic related

Really makes you think
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are there any Blood Angels mains? (is this faction even played on high level?) I cant find anything ultragood about sanguinary guard, i guess they are not worth the price, bunch of death company is much better. Do i missuse them? (charge on face with power fists on everything that is big)

ALSO NOOB QUESTION PLEASE ANSWER:
I look at my librarian in codex, he can get special issue wargear. On pages 105-106 i have the list with no points and there is iron halo. I want to add to him Iron halo but have no price and every roaster builder gives me no such option, does it mean i cant?? why the hell? he can get special issue wargear in the rules
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Guys the only thing we know for sure that Ward wrote is the Genestealer codex because he bragged about GW patting him on the back for it on Twitter.
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>>51581824
>There is chaos orks already but the 4 fuckwits thinks that it is a waste of time
Imagine ork genestealer cults
Khorne stormboy warbands
Slaanesh Goff Rokk / Moar Dakka warbands
Tzeentch weirdboy parties
Nurgle fungus... uh...

All I want is squiggoths, but the only way to get those is for someone to accidentally add something else into the codex so I can counts-as.
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>>51582046
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>>51581971

metzen never touch WoW lore since wrath

most of the stupid that went with wow in cata and onward came from the other guy who left during WoD
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>>51582046
Like the RBG model was instigated by Ward in that time? Seriously.
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>>51582046
How do we get Andy Chambers back so the nids aren't an npc spam-your-hq-to-be-viable army?
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>>51582058
In the digital codex at least, an iron halo isn't part of the special issue wargear.
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>>51582046

>sees chris metzen Voicing Guilliman on the Gathering storm part 3 Preview

really this needs to happen!
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>>51582058
The iron halo its only for captain
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>>51581966
Yes? I know how long it takes for these things to move from design to product.
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>>51582058
You're looking at the wrong section. The blood angels wargear list is what you want. Specifically,

Special Issue Wargear

A model may take up to one of each of the following:
- Auspex…5 pts
- Melta bombs…5 pts
- Digital weapons…10 pts
- Teleport homer…10 pts
- Jump pack 3, 4, 5…15 pts
- Space Marine bike 3, 4…20 pts
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>>51582139
I'd like that, but mark strong would be a better guilliman by an order of magnitude
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>>51581685
>>51581674
>>51581703
>>51581651


Do it Anon!
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>>51581816
Sure. Any Imperial char that can use relics can use them.

Knight Command Pask with Memento Mortispex.
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>>51582214
Knight commander pask can take relics?
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So my friend is getting into Tyranids. Specifically, swarmy horde Tyranids.

He's already planning on lots of haunts with a Tervigon, though he is worried about the monetary cost. This is after another of our friends offered to order it from China for him.

Any advice I can give him to help trim it down or at least justify the price?
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pleaseee can someone upload the white dwarf from february or link a mirror? im dying here finding a source its not in the mega
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>>51582214
Hold on.

>Lord Baron Imperial Knight with Blade of the Worthy or Omnissiah's Grace or Memento Mortispex

Doesn't specify that they can't be walkers and the Heirlooms specifically say they are relics.
Granted, Blade of the Worthy would just be silly to use but it should be possible.
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>>51582272
Tank Commanders can take that one from Cadia list. Its a bit of a loophole but by RAW it goes.

The combo is not even THAT good, its not going to make or brake IG.
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>>51582323
That works too. Shame you cant do it with Tripartiate Lance. That would be downright nasty.
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>>51582191

mark would be great as Rogal Dorn
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>>51582400
Could also do some real fucking nasty shit with the Exalted Court. Just take a Dominus Maniple with Cawl (or Holy Requisitioner if you can spare the points) and then deck your shit out with the much cheaper Mechanicum stuff.
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>Rise of the Primarch II: The Wrath of Khan
W H E N ?
H
E
N
?
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>>51582452
Every one of them could take relics? Well thats just downright nasty.
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>>51582402
he would, but guilliman is literally blond titus
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When do you think will see his rules? I'm still waiting for the avatar of yneead's rules.
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>>51582469
Yeah, every model counts as a Character and all can take Heirlooms, which WOULD normally be too expensive to give to everyone but a 10 point 3++ save is always affordable.

Good fucking thing it's impossible to get a Knight character in an Oathsworn Detachment. That would be absolutely fucking disgusting in a War Convo.
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Would buying a Start Collecting Eldar and a Start Collecting Dark Eldar make an okay beginner force?

I am interested in Eldar but can't decide which to play.

Alternatively which xeno (START PLAYING) box is the best other than Tau which I am just not interested in doing atm.
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>>51582455
Never
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>>51581685

Why is it that if you pause a Dunc video at literally any point in time you're guaranteed a hilarious face?
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>>51582518
>Would buying a Start Collecting Eldar and a Start Collecting Dark Eldar make an okay beginner force?
Kind of. You're probably better off focusing on one of the X-eldar forces to start, though.

both eldar Start Collecting! boxes are solid initial purchases
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So at this rate I guess we're not getting the combined Admech codex until after 8th edition.
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>>51582063
Nope
https://mobile.twitter.com/thetowerofstars/status/826052983565799424
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>>51581807

I really enjoy renegades, but the guy's playing a complete, 100% WAAC-fag tier list, with no fluff on it at all. I know it's a tournament, but it's disheartening to see.

That said, I can't find the DA player's list, but i'll give him my vote just for the name.
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If you could have any author living or dead write a 40k novel, who would it be?

I want to see
>cormac mccarthy's minimalist portrayal of anton chaos marine chase a rogue inquisitor across the desert planes of a sparely populated dead world
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>>51582668
A kind anon gave me the list in the last thread so here you

Lion's Blade
>Azrael
>Company Master - Term Armor, S. Bolter, Chainfist
>Chaplain - Bike, Melt Bombs
>2x 5x Tac. Marines - Melta, Combi Melta, Drop Pod
>2x 5x Tac. Marines - Melta, Razorback TLHB
>2x 5x Tac. Marines - Melta Bombs, Razorback TLHB
>5x Assault Marines - Flamer, Razorback TLHB
>5x Assault Marines - 2 Flamers, Drop Pod
>2x 5x Dev. Marines - 1 Grav, Rhino
>Dread - TLHF, Powerfist/HF, Drop Pod
>5x Scouts

>Munistorum Priest - Litanies of Faith

>40x Fenrisian Wolves (4 units of 10 combined to 1 unit)

Though what I don't understand is how he has both the wolves and the priest? I thought allied detachments had to be from the same dex. Unless you can unbound allies?
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>>51582724
Why does nobody seem to run heavy weapons in their tac squads anymore?
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>>51582724
>Priest is his own detachment
>Wolves are their own detachment
>ITC limit is 3 detachments/formations maximum
It checks out.
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Do any of the CSM supplements allow you to run a maximum MEQ list with bonuses? Basically I want an army with power armor everywhere

>csm troops
>cult troops
>raptors
>havocs
>chosen

etc.
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>>51582561
Tfw I like both and cant decide.
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What does /tg/ think of 40k themed yaoi/boys love?
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>>51582724

Ah, thanks Anon. Boy, with these two lists matching up this game is gonna be decided end of t2.

As for the allies, they're both seperate detachments.
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>>51582765
Literally any supplement lets you do that, Death Guard in particular. Just don't be Alpha Legion.

The easiest way is Chaos Warband from Traitor Legions which is basically a Chaos Demi-Company.
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>>51582788
Dark Eldar
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>>51582750
>>51582797
Ah right, cheers lads
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>>51582793
gay
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>>51582749
Why would you if you can take devs instead.
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>>51582802
>Literally any supplement lets you do that

Yeah but I meant with bonuses for doing so.
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>>51582788
Dark Eldar for sure.
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>>51582765

Take any of the Traitor's Legion armies, except Alpha Legion. Their bonuses are for cultists.
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>>51582825
What about for people like Salamanders where yu could take a MM and Melta with twinlink and combi melta in same squad of 10.
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>>51581705
Decimus, confirmed Prophet of the 8th, the one to unite a Legion, the light in the darkness, the bringer of the future.
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>>51582838
>>51582814
Why though.

I really like the new Dark Eldar miniture line. But I also love eldar Wraith stuff and bikes. Farseers are also neat.
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So I've heard on the grapevine Omegeon is making a return. Obviously the first question is, what impact will [s]Alpharius'[/s] return have?
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>>51582856
It's still 4 dudes babysitting a single heavy weapon.
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>>51582322
no one?
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Has there been enough new lore revealed to know what Eldar units will have the red color scheme? Im not sure if I want to paint my DE in the new red and repaint all my biel-tan red, or just do my DE in Biel-tan colors
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>>51582870
You could just get that new fuck huge starter with both factions.
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>>51582884
nicely meme'd friend
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>>51582111
Meme it into existence.

Spam GWs facebook page with love for Chambers and tell them you won't buy Tyranids if someone else writes their next Codex again.
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>>51582926
>what Eldar units will have the red color scheme?
Basically, any and all Ynnari.

>just do my DE in Biel-tan colors
Of all things that could happen, this definitely won't. Don't do this.
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>>51582568
The fact that they gave us combined Detachments in Fall of Cadia should have already tipped you off about that.
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>>51582965
Yeah too bad both of them are absolute jokes
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>>51582978
I know, anon, believe me. I'm just gonna keep running War Convo.
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Do you have to have all red elder to use the Yvatar?
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>>51582927
Looks like that pack is literally just the two start collector boxes with the death masque shit. A box extra tanka nd aspect warriors for each.
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>>51582381
No, they can't buy from the relics list.
They have one option to take a specific item, not permission to go ham on relics.

And Pask can't take the Cadia relic.
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>>51582906
So the current meta is to just down special weapons in tactical squads of 5 or 10 and avoid heavy weapons alltogether? I'm asking because im starting a salamanders army and have no idea how I want to split up my 20 tactical marines.
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Codex: Black Templars when?

I want to properly crusade and shout "DEUS VULT" again without having to base my army around Girlyman's diary.
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>>51583042
You take minimum-sized squads of 5 and give them one special, maybe a matching combi-special on the sarge.
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>>51583088
Use Codex: Space Wolves and refluff all the wolfwolf
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>>51583088

Right after Codex: Catachans.
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>>51583139
Use GSC codex with no genestealers
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>>51581793
Tell me, do these lizardmen follow The Way and cleanse humans with hordes of hovering robots?
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>>51582857
Decimus is a false prophet, Demon Curze true Prophet of the 8th
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Total noob question, but does taking a CA detachment instead of say, a Lion's Blade Strike Force mean I don't get bonuses like OS at BS 2 and the like? Do I basically trade army list freedom for buffs?
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>>51583088
I'm of the opinion all FF chapters should be their own codex. And some of the SF chapters too.

Also, which chapter tactis should I give the Exorcists?
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>>51583320
>Do I basically trade army list freedom for buffs?
yep
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If I'm taking formation detachments for Farsight Enclaves, do they need Bonding Knife Ritual?

Battlescribe is telling me they don't, but my instinct is telling me they do.
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>>51583394
>breasts on Tau
I will never accept this until I see canon art of it.
Flat chest is love.
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From 1d4chan:

>"Emperor's Children seem to be the best options at the moment, followed by the Alpha Legion. Basic Emperor's Children marines with Icon of excess are 190 pts for a 10 man squad of initiative 5 marines, with 4+ FNP, Fearless, and a roll on the combat drug table, which can give them +1 WS, BS, S, T, A, I. Death Guard Marines, meanwhile, are incredible also (Likely even better than the EC ones), 170 pts for a 10 man squad of toughness 5 marines with 5+ FNP and fearless but with a -1 to initiative.

>Iron Warriors, on the other hand, are one of, if not the worst, legion choices."
>Iron Warriors, on the other hand the worst.
>Iron Warriors are the worst.

I really kek'd on that one. I can't take that one seriously.

Outside of Magnus... Thousand Sons, World Eaters, Black Legion, and Night Lords are arguably worse off than Iron Warriors.

Tank Hunter ObSec Obliterators in a CAD?
Double Tapping Tankhunter Oblits in a Decurion?
Vengeance Weapon Batteries...
Stubborn LD 9/10 or Fearless if in/on a Fortification.
Fleshmetal Exoskeleton, Cranium Malevolus, and Axe of the Forgemaster are all solid.

How could Black Legion, World Eaters, Night Lords, and dare I say Thousand Sons be better?
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>>51583419

most of 1d4guides are outdated
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Anyone have the "disdain for plebs" picture of Guilliman?
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Robert "Trump card" Gilliman. Make Astartes Great Again.
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>>51583419
>Outside of Magnus...
When you're trying to min-max you cant take away the strongest option. TSons are the strongest legion rulewise. It's just not a fluffy or marine list.

Different perspective Anon thats all. Mind you I have no idea how IW are the worst.
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http://pastebin.com/cvprXP0E

Give advice please.
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>>51583514
format your list better
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>>51583088
>Codex: Black Templars when?

2 years ago and now never
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>>51581971
Most of that shit started with major team changes after ulduar and kosak as the new main story guy.

Metzen still has a corruption fetish tho
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>>51583532
That's what BattleScribe did when ported to plain text.

Copy paste it into notepad maybe. Not sure how that'll work from iPhone Notes.
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>>51583419
1d4chan, suggest that SoB should have priest everywhere! Also think that plasma is a must have. Because SoB lack high S and AP weapons is not like Meltaguns and Multi-Melta are easy as fuck to get with SoB oh wait it is.

They also think Exorcist are amazing. Well if you compare it with PE and Retribution squads that need a lot of points and care in order to work. Exorcist are good at best, usually just mediocre.
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So, which Troop unit, in isolation, is THE single best one for its comparative points cost and what it can achieve with its loadouts?

This is disregarding any Formation bonus or Faction Special Rules. Just the raw unis compared by what you get for what you pay.
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>>51583548
Do you twits realise Metzen left Blizzard?
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>>51583563
Protip: there are options in Battlescribe to remove all the extra shit.

View Roster, bar on the left. Tick minimal output, no profiles, no rules, root points.
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>>51582194
Already done
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>>51583568
Eldar
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>>51583568
Windriders. No contest.
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>>51583568
Necron warriors.
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>>51581795

Lack of Monstrous Creatures was one of the reasons I chose Orks.

That and cheap Walkers.
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>>51583580

Full story here, and he sounds pissed and bored with blizzards new direction

>https://www.pcgamesn.com/overwatch/chris-metzen-on-retirement
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>>51583580
>Most of that shit started with major team changes after ulduar and kosak as the new main story guy.

Do you even read other posts before you shit on them?
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>>51583639
Do you even check to link to the right anon. Idiot.
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>>51583633
Just thought it was funny seeing a thread full of people thinking Metz is still at that company.
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>>51583454
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>>51583568
Tempestus Scions give you 9 S3/AP3 shots on fragile units that can do a lot for 70pts with competitive upgrade costs.

Guardsmen give you 50 pts worth of bodies that can meet a lot of requirements.

Marines at 70pts give you a durable unit but need a lot of investment to gain anything good. Good shooting and damage but not very effective in a vacuum.

Conscripts are iirc 60pts for 20 bodies.
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>>51583679

thanks battle brother
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>>51583445
They mention a lot of the Traitor Legion options and such which makes me scratch my head. Just seems like the ones who wrote it were a little biased.

>>51583486
TSons are the strongest or Tzeentch in general? Thousand Sons seem really expensive without some BattleBros. support from some Tzeentch Daemons.

>>51583566
So in general, 1d4chan (specifically the guides) have no real grasp on what is good/bad/ugly?
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I used to play Necrons in highschool but gave them to a friend and haven't played in about 10 years. Looking to get back into the hobby.

I am torn between going Tau or Eldar. Any opinion between those 2? Also with rumors of 8th ed. coming out should I wait to buy the rulebook/codex and just get my models painted up? Would a start collecting box be my best way in or should I buy some individual boxes? My LGS only plays 200pt games weekly ugh. Thanks in advance.
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>>51583419
None of that would be enough to stop a World Eater turn 1 and 2 charge, specially when AoBF Juggerlords and Berzerker Glaive/Gorefader DPs are involved.
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>>51583718
>So in general, 1d4chan (specifically the guides) have no real grasp on what is good/bad/ugly?
That guy is a bitter Sisters player spouting hyperbole, but his sentiment is correct. 1d4chan is a shithole of memes at the best of its times but its tactics pages are pure garbage. The only thing they're really any good for it getting a general idea of how the army plays, and even them you have to be wary.
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>>51583582
Thanks! Re-formatted.
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>>51583568
eldar jetbikes, hands down
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Has anyone tried giving neophyte hybrids some vanguard helmets? If yes, how does it look?
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>>51583788
Yes
It looks good

Pic related it's the Imperial Guard army I stole the idea for
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>>51582194
I've contacted Metzen on his Twitter and what I believe to be his Facebook account, with screen grabs all of the words of encouragement from this thread and the last. Here's hoping he sees it, at least.
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>>51583718
>TSons are the strongest or Tzeentch in general?
Both together are the strongest for extra WC of course, but Magnus plus 3 daemon princes all harnessing on a 3+ with LOS to all enemies is a retarded. Utterly retarded.

Some people will argue that this isnt a TSons list and if we were talking fluffy/casual I'd agree. But when talking about tournament/min-max it is.
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>>51583822
Give me links to these bits/boxes. I must copy these.
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>>51583849
Vanguard helmets, Neophyte torsos and legs, Scions arms and guns (the guns' barrels are removed) and that plasma gun is a mixup of a Scions lasgun and a Marines plasma gun. Get the links yourself.
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>>51583849
GSC torso/leg
Vanguard helmets
MT/Scion arms and weapons
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>>51583880
What Vanguard though? Not sure what they are.
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>>51583893
Skitarii.

I mean you could just search Vanguard on GW's site and pick the result that matches.
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>>51583913
anon wants to be spoonfed
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>>51582277

just buy 6 flygrants

sobbing
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>>51583913
Thanks. Didn't know they were GW heads.

>>51583927
See above turbonog. So many people use alt/3rd party bits and I've never seen those.
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>>51583568
Windridwr Gaurdians. 17 points for a hyper mobile MEQ with decent shooting, and the ability to take heavy weapons on all of them.
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>>51582277
2-3 flyrants
at least 1, no more than 2 Tervigons
Incubator Node formation is a good choice.
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>>51582830

also literally any legion except alpha legion.

which is again, focused on cultists and chosen
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>>51583822
Thanks for the pic.

The Scion arms give them even more of a medieval look. Totally gonna steal this
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>All Eldar units have a WS/BS of 4
>Half the formations let them increase that to a 5 or higher
>This is on top of their plethora of D weapons
>They can all inherently move and shoot
>The jetbikes can also jet move in the assault phase or flat-out 36 fucking inches
>Also half these jetbikes are some of the strongest psykers in the game
>Their big units are monstrous creatures instead of walkers
And people complain about Tau? Eldar units shoot better, hit harder, move further and faster, and have virtually the same exact gimmicks as Tau but better, yet Tau hate is the meme? They even have their own Riptide Wing except way fucking better. And don't Eldar have three times the winrate of the next best codex? Can someone explain this shit?
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>>51583994
people hate both of them
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>>51583994
Eldar players know their shit is OP.
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>>51582937
>you won't buy Tyranids if someone else writes their next Codex again
>someone else
We both know it's going to be a copy-paste from the last book, with a new overcosted shitty unit and a severe lowering of stats for the last useful three units - hive guard, flyrants, and zoanthropes.
Does Crud still count as the writer if it's a second copy-paste edit?

Also.
>>51582937
>GW
>facebook page
I know we're in brave new GW management territory, but come on.
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>>51583994
>Half the formations let them increase that to a 5 or higher
Taushitter pls go
>Also half these jetbikes are some of the strongest psykers in the game
Kek, confirmed not knowing anything about psykers just as I would expect of a Taufag
>Their big units are monstrous creatures instead of walkers
Nice one

>They even have their own Riptide Wing except way fucking better
It's Apoc only unlike faggotwing which fits in 1k lists


Lurk more Taufag
>inb4 hurr you play Eldar
I never said Eldar weren't OP as shit.
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>>51582937
Phil Kelly is the only person I want working on my Nids, ever again
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>>51583994
Remember when guardians were bs3?
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>>51583195
Just like for orks.
Except you use genestealers.
The genestealers are kommandos.
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>>51583994
inb4 angry eldar players flame you to death
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>Ork players who actually scream WAAAAAAAGH or more usually WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Have any of you guys ever played against an autist like this? I didn't know they existed outside of memes until the GW streams.
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>>51583994

eldar are actually an amazingly balanced army if you don't take anything on a jetbike or powered by souls

everything in the eldar codex is useful, they have no tax units and the only sub-par pick I can think of is the shining spears because of no hit and run.

the problem is that half the armies in the game are complete shit and everything on a jetbike or powered by souls is fucking busted.

I know a guy who collected saim hann since 3rd edition, he still uses the sixth edition rules for his army because Geedubs made the models he's been using and converting for decades waacfag tier.

eldar players are usually more self aware than the tau for better or worse

and they always lose horribly and get their asses kicked in the fluff so it balances out kind off, the tau are just as insufferable in the fluff as they are in the TT
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>>51584134
One of my good friends does this every time he declares a waagh. It pretty annoying but he actually plays Orks so I can't complain.
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>>51584134
>>51584134
how is that autistic? sounds cool as fuck if players actually identify with their minis
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>>51584157
>but he actually plays Orks so I can't complain.
You really can.
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>>51584154

forgot my picture
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>>51583994
I know what you mean, I only started playing but I've already had the most bullshit experience vs eldar.

This guy had all these transports, I'm thinking vehicles can't get saves but he just ignores what I throw at him on a 3+ meanwhile he just ignores my toughness completely with his guns.

I had terminators but he had a vehicle with a million ap2 shots, it was bullshit.

And fuck the bikes that jump behind cover after shooting then run you over in melee then run away again.
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>>51584154
>if you don't take anything on a jetbike or powered by souls
>Banshees
Or on the other end
>Wave Serpents
>Hornets

>the only sub-par pick I can think of is the shining spears
But you just banned jetbikes.

>everything on a jetbike or powered by souls is fucking busted
>Autarch Skyrunner
>Shining Spears
>Wraithlords
>Wraithblades

>eldar players are usually more self aware than the tau for better or worse
This is right, though.
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>>51584177
It breaks up playing against Tau, Daemons and Grav spamming marines. And since all but one of my friends are poorfags they csn the afford much diversity.
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>>51584168
Probably because people usually sound like shit when they do it.
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>>51584134
I play Orks, people expect me to do this and get really put off when I don't.

Please don't make me scream in public...
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>>51584181
>4th
Eldar were fine in 4th and 5th.
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>>51583618
>Lack of Monstrous Creatures was one of the reasons I chose Orks.
I take it you're not a snakebite player.
Potential monstrous creatures was a side reason of why I picked orks. I figured, who else besides tyranids and wraithlord eldar would get monstrous creatures?
And then the Tau..
And then the Space Marines flavours...
And then they're common in every army except orks.
And now they're op except for tyranids mcs, which suck hard

It's a shame the Mumakil model was so big... and that for some reason all lizardmen models have to be so small.
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>>51584168
because playing a game with little painted toys is already considered manchild enough, and you're not helping our case when you autistically screech the battle cry of fictional green aliens like some kind of cosplayer retard saying kawaii and making anime noises
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>>51584260
what monstrous creatures do space marines get?
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>>51584291
Not him but Dreadknights.
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>>51584291
THEIR [\spoiler] MASSIVE [\spoiler] HORSE [\spoiler] DONGS
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>>51583139
Actually, I think it'd be pretty cool if Catachans get "Chapter Tactics" for the Guard codex.

>High-Gravity Physique: All Infantry models (save Ogryns or Bullgryns) gain +1 Strength.

>Reckless Bravado: All Infantry models are Fearless when engaged in Close Combat. Furthermore, they may re-roll all failed Pinning tests they are called upon to make.

>Devils: All Infantry models that do not have a Close Combat Weapon must purchase a Close Combat Weapon for +2pt/model. Furthermore, models in a Catachan detachment may not purchase Caparace Armor as an upgrade (though still retains it if it is automatically included in its wargear).

>They wouldn't hurt a Catachan!: Models equipped with Demo Charges roll two Scatter Dice when throwing them in the Shooting Phase, and may choose either one of the results. Furthermore, all Infantry models may re-roll all failed Toughness tests against wounds caused by a Demo Charge thrown by a friendly model.

>He ain't Catachan!: Catachans may not receive Orders from Senior or Junior Officers that are not part of a Catachan detachment. Furthermore, Commissars may not be purchased in a Catachan army unless a Lord Commissar is taken as a HQ choice or as part of a Command Formation.

Special Orders:

>Bare your fangs!: Select one Catachan unit within 12" and the Officers LoS. That unit gains the Rage and Counter-Attack special rule until the start of their next Assault Phase.

>The Whites of Their Eyes: Select one Catachan unit within 24" and the officers LoS. That unit resolves all Overwatch fire at +1 Ballistic Skill and counts as having Defensive Grenades until the start of their next Shooting Phase.

>Cook 'em!: Select one unit Catachan unit within 24" that is not locked in combat. All Flamer weapons in the unit gain the Torrent special rule until the start of their next Shooting Phase.
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>>51584219
? What does that have to do with him screaming like a retard?
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>>51584297
Would you seriously count grey knights as space marines?
In fluff, sure, but as a codex they're different and quite a bit worse.
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>>51584286
Don't know if the being considered a manchild thing is British, but over here in the states, none of my friends or family seem to have heard of painting miniatures before and they generally seem to think its kinda neat. Maybe you should stop being so insecure that you police other people's behavior, because that's the cringiest thing I could think of.
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>>51584286
>because playing a game with little painted toys is already considered manchild enough
What does manchild even mean?
Do what you want in your life man... if you want to roleplay an Orc in his setting its your decision.
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https://youtu.be/kXXRwEmV5Gg
did you give your money to this girl who you love?
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So for my Death Skulls army, I'm really going all out for the looting element. Like everything has some bits from other armies on the models. Or in this case, replacing the riders with orks. So I'm wondering if this would be be better off if I stick tires on them and call em warbikes, or stick with my original plan and make them deffkoptas? I ask because I hadn't realized how tiny the DEldar bikes were until I tried to put an ork in the seat...
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List of Ynnari special rules since I missed the last few threads and don't know if it's been posted.

TL;Dr invincible turbo-jump units which can take actions during the other guy's turn (I'm sick so maybe I read this wrong) and ignore invulnerable saves kek

http://imgur.com/a/dbR41
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>>51584211

Well crafted bait
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>>51584362
Tbh anti-geek sentiment is dying out. Only pockets of people to stupid to appreciate anything but being sluts and football still get triggered by geek hibbies
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>>51584349
He said Space Marine flavors.
Also yes I would. It's a force made of MEQ and TEQ.
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>>51583750
I doubt a Turn 1 one charge is really that possible with World Eaters, even with Blood Mad. Now, Turn 2, sure, but even then I am skeptical. It would take some really bad deployment to let that happen. Plus, Reserves help with that and even then the Lost and the Damned formation is nice bubble wrap for the more expensive/vulnerable units.

Not saying JuggLords are paper tigers, but they can be gunned down by Plasma. Especially without FNP. 3 Obliterators double-tapping with Assault Cannons statistically kill a JuggLord without rerolls.

As for the flying Daemon Prince, the Vengeance Weapon Batteries, Skyshield Landing Pads, and Aegis Defence Lines can help with that. As an all comer, Iron Warriors are in a very good spot. Just depends on how you kit things out. Like everything, they don't have a great chance against Eldar, but Tau I could see being an interesting matchup outside of Riptide Wing.

Still trying to work out the kinks in my list, but so far I like it. Feels fluffy and is not too cheesy/beardy.

My meta, is pretty chill, only have to deal with Retaliation Cadre Tau Empire, Imperial Guard with Air Cav, Blood Angels (DC formations mostly), and Grav Spam Marines. Those are mostly just my friends. Other guys there play GK, Chaos Daemons, Khorne Daemonkin, Tyranids, and Wyvern Rough Rider IG. It's not bad.
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>>51584349
>Would you seriously count grey knights as space marines?
I personally would, because they're 3+ elite armies with rhinos and land raiders and dreadnoughts and bolters and... oh yeah, and the imperium is one super battle bros faction anyway.

Seriously though, the Kroot got an attack squiggoth before the orks did. When's the last time you saw a kroot?

It may be easier to name an army that doesn't have monstrous creatures.
>Orks
>And... uh... IG?
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>>51583764
I find it a fun read, but I don't take what they say as gospel either.
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>>51584399
That's what I'm saying. If I was playing against an Ork player and he waggghed I'd just have a giggle and keep playing.
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>>51584391
Add guns to bulk them out and make them deff koptas.

Or model them hovering very low, say that orks are much heavier than dark eldar, and use them as bikes without the tires.
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>>51584260
EXCUSE ME? I'll have you know we Guardsmen have NOT fallen into the tarpit of stupid that is the Monstrous Creature plague! Vehicles4life!
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>>51584391
Orks flying around on stolen jet bikes sounds great, just remember to mount the heads as trophies.
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>yfw the Dark Angels have always been unwitting traitors
>The same forces that supposedly corrupted the Fallen are now corrupting the "loyalist" Chapter
>These little fuckers are Daemons
>They couldn't corrupt the Lion, so they've been keeping his ass asleep.
>Cypher has been trying to awaken the Lion and save the Chapter, to no avail.

What a tweest.
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>>51584462
I fully expect the Catachan to get a grox or catachan devil in the next IG book before orks get cavalry or monstrous creatures or tanks worth taking.
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>>51584369
>What does manchild even mean?

a man who acts like a child. although it could really just be replaced with "gen z males", but that's not as catchy.

>Do what you want in your life man... if you want to roleplay an Orc in his setting its your decision.

Sure, I think the conceited disregard normies have for anyone who enjoys "uncool" hobbies is disgusting but come on man. Screaming battle cries of fictional characters is pretty assburger and allow them to justify such opinions.
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>>51584497
>gen z males

Ahh insecure and prone to generalizations. Maybe people don't like you not because you're a manchild, but because you're an asshole. Get your head screwed on right man, you're not impressing anyone by putting other people down.
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>>51583514
Here, please cover this list for ideas/required changes
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>>51584391
I'd use them as koptas.

For bikes I tend to use the normal Ork chassis and add other factions' stuff on. I've currently got a warboss riding a monstrosity built out of a bike chassis and raider bits, a painboy using Talos bits, a big mek w/ kff using random Tau bits, and I'm working on another mek using stuff from a Kataphron Breacher that I think I'm going to turn into a SAG.

I fucking love orks.
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>>51584399
Not true at all. Maybe your perception is skewed by your environment. The vast majority of people on this planet, even in the west, are mouth breathers who still have very rigid views on those who don't conform with normie interests. The average middle class whites, rednecks and "inner city" people + the gen z who consume "inner city" media, and various other ethnic peoples who all together make up the majority of the US and Europe look down on hobbies like 40k, star wars, etc. Le cool nerd acceptance is still an internet/affluent demographic thing and limited to certain infospheres.
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>>51584404
Obliterators are such shit.

I played a game against one the other day, 70 points it was and the stupid thing just sat on an objective missing a single shot each turn at me.
One turn it tried to assault cannon me killing about 12 points of models, between that and a glance that's all it did.
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>>51584391
Put skids and a bigass jet/rocket engine on it and keep them as warbikes.
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>>51584480
The changelings are an Anethema to Daemons as seen in WoM.
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>>51584480
They were always daemons.
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>>51584548
>being stuck in the 90s
Geeks have been mainstreamed by cam whores such as pewdiepie and hot women. Then everyone realised you could get famous and ruch by being a geek.
You are confusing the fact that no one respects a person who is full aspie all the time.
Being a geek doesn't excuse you from sperging in someones presence.
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>>51584344
I would prefer faction-specific orders. We're an army that works like actual soldiers, not a bunch of individual warriors who are good on an individual level. We rely on teamwork, discipline, and chain of command. Not skill, individual toughness or honor. And the orders system really emphasizes that.
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>>51584548
Europe has a completely different attitude to warhammer and /tg/ hobbies no one gives a stuff and women (even hot ones) join in.
Confirmed for not knowing anything.
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>>51584523
There's no need to project, if you want to act in an embarrassing way you can but it's off putting if you do it in front of strangers.
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>>51584566
It also... Sat on an objective...
Also
>Not using Plasma Cannons
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>>51581685
Please mighty God Emperor save me from the pain of not being able to paint so I can run a Scion allies detatchment as Kasrkins
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>>51584362
I agree with your post.
>>51584548
Even if all of that was true. Why do you care? You're not hurting anyone so enjoy your hobby.
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>>51584566
>model rolls 1s and 2s all game
>wow so shit
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>>51584649
That was how it got the glance... On an av11 ravanger.
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>>51584670
B-but you don't understand! If everyone in the world doesn't validate me, my wee-wee can't get hard!
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>>51584650
Cast them in plastic. That way you won't rage when the paint comes out shit.
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>>51584643
oooh or you could just be throwing bait out there. The guessing game is what makes it so fun. Its hard to believe there are actually people out there constantly looking over their shoulders for "normies" though, so I'm gonna guess you're just an exceptional troll.
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>>51584683
>70 points
>mainly single shot weapons
>1/3 chance to miss
>has to use a different weapon each turn
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>>51584670
Lots of geek pride faggots still exist desperate to hold onto my speshul club attitude.
Its like the fat guy from jurassic park
"Hey look its a geek!"
"See nobody cares"
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>>51584624
>>51584624
like I said

> your perception is skewed by your environment

you hang around middle class and above demographics and consume related media. meanwhile if you actually look at populations, there are huge swaths of people who disdain nerd culture. nonwhites especially, but also whites from conservative areas and even plenty of the middle class. there is an entire world you don't realize exists because you only consume a very small affluent sphere of information.

I don't want to derail this into some political retard shitstorm, but it's like trump's election. everybody (in the media you likely consume) thought that trump stood no chance in hell, because they did not realize the huge demographic that exists outside of their bubble. they couldn't possibly imagine that millions of people don't think trump is a reality tv show nazi, but guess who was wrong. "nerd culture" is accepted by the people and media you perceive every day, but that is not the norm. I'm willing to bet if you interviewed most people in the US they would still say stuff like MTG card games are faggot shit. the echo chamber has destroyed your self awareness.
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>>51584639
>We rely on teamwork, discipline, and chain of command. Not skill, individual toughness or honor.

You're right for everybody in the Guard BUT Catachans.

Catachans are hugely individualistic, to the point where they will sometimes flagrantly disregard any order from somebody they do not feel is worthy of their respect. All of their officers are only officers by group consent - if they lose the respect of their men by not being brave, smart, and tough as hell, then the men literally will not follow his orders or will ensure that he "dies heroically in battle."

This mentality and self-reliance is because of the nature of their homeworld - on Catachan, you have to be an individual, because the only person you can count on in the jungle is yourself.
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>>51584670
I don't have some grudge against anybody, I just saw an incorrect sentiment and my autism must correct it.
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>>51584639
>Teamwork, discipline, and chain of command.

If Eternal Crusade taught me anything, you must be talking about Orks.
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>>51584715
>losing an argument
>Y-You're a troll! T-This is b-b-bait!
You can roleplay if you want but don't be suprised if people think it's inappropriate.
And no, if don't care about how people view you, what they think doesn't matter but most people in the real world don't want to be seen as massive spregs
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Do you think Forgeworld would cast a few Knarlocs if i asked reeeeaaally nicely, and explained that I'd really rather not get an illegal recast?
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>>51582046

Really got my Omophagea firing.
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>>51584746
>my perception
Don't fucking talk to me like you know me you autistic subhuman cunt.
I don't watch any media or even have a tv and im not middle class.
kill yourself.
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>>51584650
DO IT
DOOOOO IIIIIIIT
Painting is the only way you get better at painting so fucking do it
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>>51584749


if you want teamwork and discipline, go for mordians

After all, now that Cadia is Ded, Geedubs needs a new face for the guard, and Mordians already tough motherfuckers who shoots incompetent commissars on sight
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>>51584746
>meanwhile if you actually look at populations, there are huge swaths of people who disdain nerd culture.
That's because they're POOR.

Poor people will always distain for the rich because they're envious of their money.
What better a symbolises wealth than an expensive hobby?
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>>51584650
>metal
who cares, paint them as best you can and redo it when you improve later

metal is so fucking easy to strip it's basically a nonissue
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>>51584799
>he mad

whatever pal. all I'm saying is try listing your interests as warhammer 40k and magic the gathering on tinder, and see where that gets you. you shouldn't have any problem if most people just consider it a mainstream hobby, right?
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>>51584134
A couple of other people in the GW I was playing at were trying to goad me into giving my best WAAAGH!! when I declared it in game, but I didn't want to yell at the top of my lungs in doors.
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>>51584480
source: your poontang
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>>51584815
>poor people don't like nerd hobbies
A computer, console and miniatures is affordable for everyone.
All the hobbie stores near me are in poor areas even industrial areas.
Its not a upperlower upper lower upper middle class thing you dumbasses
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>>51584252
Same man, same; am >>51584820
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>>51584548
>The vast majority of people on this planet, even in the west, are mouth breathers who still have very rigid views on those who don't conform with normie interests. The average middle class whites, rednecks and "inner city" people + the gen z who consume "inner city" media, and various other ethnic peoples who all together make up the majority of the US and Europe look down on hobbies like 40k, star wars, etc.
No, the "vast majority" of people don't give a shit. They never gave much of a shit.

Life isn't an 80's sitcom. People look down on hipster nerd faggots because they act like faggots, not because they hate star wars or whatever.
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>>51584819
>actually thinks you can just write a persons profile based on nothing.
Yeah im "mad" mad at your low iq.
You have to be one of the dumbest people ive seen on here.
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Where is this discussion going.
You're in a 40k general on /tg/, talk about the game please
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>>51584860
>wow that's so cool anon, your warhammer 40k collection is interesting and not creepy at all, my vagina is really wet. I would not be ashamed to tell anyone that my boyfriend plays card games with wizards on them.
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So what the hell did Cawl have in his ship's reliquary? If it was a shard of Ynnead what was it doing on Mars and why would Veilwalker let him keep it? Was it the Emperor's Sword? If it was what was it doing on Mars and why would he keep it?
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>>51584766
>Ok, don't drive alone with the Trakks, keep an eye on all the points and don't let them take points where they can still get time
>WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!!
>still win a good amount of matches against both SM flavours and sometimes even Eldar
This makes Orks the most fun faction in the game
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>>51584777
If you threaten them, they won't respond. Just buy from China.
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>>51584863
No need to project friendo, just giving you some life advice.
You'll listen to it if you're smart!
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>>51584851
Yeah, I don't get why people try to do that. It's hard enough to convince myself to leave my cave and play at the FLGS, why do people feel the need to urge me to do horribly mortifying things.

If I wanted to do something like that, I'd do it. Please don't urge me on like some circus monkey.
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>>51584873
Lol. Wow you sound pathetic Anon. What women wants someone as un confident as you?
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>>51584860
Its pretty much this all this shit is painfully mainstream now. They could make a GoT Horus Heresy tv series and itd be a huge hit.
Just no one likes awkward faggots who can't groom themselves.
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>>51584566
>Obliterators are such shit.
>Shit.
That guy didn't use his right. A lone Oblit with no Cult of Destruction and/or IW Grand Company rules are going to not do great. Especially if they choose the wrong weapons half the time.

I had a 3 man group finish a Knight Titan with MultiMeltas (used Lascannons previous turn outside the Melta rule range) and control an objective that gave me points for a decisive win over a close game, and a single one break a Razorback open so my Cultists could swarm the BA Tac Marines inside. I don't expect them to kill more than their points, I just expect them to do what I need, when I need. They don't let me down too often. Have yet to use the Heavy Flamer to roast squishies on an objective.

>>51584649
I rarely bust that out since no one clumps their 3+ save duders that much.

>>51584718
>2 Wounds.
>Can benefit from cover, 2+/5++.
>Not using the Cult of Destruction's benefits.
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>>51584888
>replying to peoples' posts as if you're me

this has happened like three times ITT. I bet nobody knows who is talking to who anymore. what did he mean by this.
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>>51584877
Ikr? It's literally the only game I can think of (including the tabletop) where I can consistently win as Orks AND have fun doing it.

Even if it is a terrible game developed by chimpanzees.
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>>51584880
Im not going to word it out as threatening as that came off, i more want it to come across as 'i would really like to play a legal army'

Those dudes are what got me into 40k, it bums me out i got into it too late.
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>>51584813

i second that, fuck cadia!

Bring me some hawt thikk and stronk mordian guardman
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>>51584873
I don't even bother hiding my hobbies from the hot women i socialise with.
They flirt with me and get visibly aroused and my social media is full of speesh muhrines.
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>>51584940
Those laspacks are dangerously close to that campfire.
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>>51584906
What does cult of destruction do?
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>>51584900
Why do yall keep personally attacking me, you need to chill the hell out my dudes. I'm just trying to make the point that normies look down on stuff like 40k, hell I wish it wasn't true but it is. If you think otherwise, you think wrong and I'm not very confident in your social awareness. My confidence in myself is fine tho.
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>>51584888
>>51584926
Found the autism.
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>>51584873
It's almost like you're an autistic spaz who would turn people off regardless of your choice in hobbies.
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>>51584888
If you were smart you'd stop being so insecure, and then maybe people would like you.
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>>51584965
They seriously don't.
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>>51584954
So they're in danger of what? Getting charged?
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>>51584876
>So what the hell did Cawl have in his ship's reliquary?
we don't know yet

maybe guilliman's life support device
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>>51584929
I'm sure it will get better someday.
But yes, despite being the underdog faction, I win quite regularly and have fun playing. Especially Marines tend to underestimate the dakka a shoota boy can lay down.
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>>51584926
It's a common trolling method used to incite arguments.

Most of them are just two spregs with a dozen trolls egging them on.
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>>51584954

>Mordians don't give a shit about Danger
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>>51584384
AHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>51584965
Normies don't look down on stuff like 40k. "Normies", whatever that means look down on you. I'm not exactly sure why they don't like you, but you come across as an insecure twat so that's probably a decent guess.
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>>51584898
Just tell them you don't like doing it. If they're good fellows they'll stop urging you to. If they're assholes then stop playing with them. You deserve better
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>>51584965
>My confidence in myself is fine tho.
Sure thing lol.
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>>51585013
Dude, don't even reply. Starving that autist of (You)s is how we got rid of him last time and how we'll get rid of him again.
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>>51584992
Or exploding when they overcharge. Especially the one on the right, looks like it's full to me.
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>>51585024
but I like laughing at poor, emotionally unstable, crazy people
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>>51585021
I just sort of raise my eyebrow at them and stare silently while inwardly gibbering in terror.

All those years as a musician have given me one hell of a poker face when it comes to social anxiety.
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>>51584926
Some people who do this are genuinelly autistic thought. They are the sort who have to finish peoples sentences.
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so, all janitors decided to watch superbowl and let the doors of /tg/, vidya retro and generals unguarded against /v/ and /pol/ again...
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>>51584965
>normies look down on stuff like 40k

Not really here in Texas, especially if they're dudes. This like model-building are actually very popular here - if somewhat insular - and wargaming is very popular in its own right.

The video games are also very popular, which means a lot of computer gamers are at least passingly familiar with it.

Have you considered that maybe they just look down on you?
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>>51584989
they seriously do though. I didn't say that people are automatically going to think less of you if you play 40k and you're some alright guy, but in a vacuum "guy who plays 40k" is not a cool guy. I have seen people outside of my FLGS look inside and say something like "grown men playing fucking pokemon cards?" and shake their heads. people consider this shit lame to some degree, of course you can't generalize everyone but if you think of the average minions meme posting, club going, "normal" person they are not down with magic the gathering cards. there is a reason why you rarely see women in FLGS. inb4 a bunch of exceptions to the rule, b-but I know a gamer girl who loves 40k! she plays tyranids doesn't she?[/spoilers]

it seems like you guys are attacking me because you think I think that disdaining nerds is somehow justified and that I'm a self hating hypocrite. nah. I'm just saying you really don't get outside of your own bubble much if you think tabletop wargames are mainstream cool. but please do continue to tell me that because star wars is a famous franchise that means warhamster is just as legit as motorcycle hobbyists in the status quo.
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>>51585037
The fucker feeds off of (you)s. Kek in private, good anon.
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>>51584935
What I meant is, if you even hint at recasts, they won't respond.
Source: Emails sent with no reply done in the same way.

I have tried it super subtle, all the way down to "Is the only place to buy this model from some website I found based in China? I couldn't find them on your website"
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>>51585084
So are you telling me chad mcthunda cock from downunda who is a full time underwear model and travels tye world on his huge yacht. If he says I like 40k to a woman she will think hes a loser?
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>>51585084
>I'm just saying you really don't get outside of your own bubble much
This is one of those situations where a "no u" is completely appropriate.

Enjoy those neurotic delusions, I guess, but the reality is people don't care as much as you think they do.
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>>51585075
>the discussion is making me uncomfortable
>delet
Have i got bad news for you.
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>>51585133
The only full-time underwear model I've ever met was gayer than a songbird in Candy Land.

He didn't like 40k, though he did play MtG.
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>>51585133
I just said in that post
> I didn't say that people are automatically going to think less of you if you play 40k and you're some alright guy
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>>51585133
if you're chad thundercock playing 40k people will like you despite of that, not because of it
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>>51584929
What are you talking about? Orks are great in all video game adaptions.
DoW 1 and had great Ork fun in single and multiplayer.
I've been playing battle fleet gothic and they're amazing in that.

Their gimmick is ramming, all factions have boosters that allow that to make speedy turns to boost forward for awhile, Orks just have "da big red button" on all of their ships, it's like a super thirster you can't turn off until it runs out of fuel.

Nothing is more visceral or fun than a good ram. I remember taking an elder ship by suprise with my teleporter, waiting until he and his escorts used their boosts getting 'safely' behind me only to teleport to the side of him as the kaptin hits da button.
WAAAGHH
Smashing in to him then dragging him along with me as he's embedded in my ship, plowing in to his fleet like a cosmic bowling ball using him as my ram.
His smaller ships (or what's left of them) corkscrewing away as we smash in to them, it was beautiful.
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>>51585160
Consider the following: "normies" that don't like you are not worth your time.
I laugh how nerds condition themselves to percieve all validation from the point if view of "normies".
In reality no one cares and "normies" are stupid people not worth getting emotionally upset over.
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What do people think of the Cegorach's revenge formation for Harlequins? Is it ever worth it, or would it be better to just ally Harlequins using a smaller formation with Eldar/Dark Eldar as the main portion? Let's assume for 1800-2000 point games.
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>>51585183
>Consider the following: "normies" that don't like you are not worth your time.

who. cares.

that's not the point of this discussion. my entire autistic point was to assert the reality that 40k is not mainstream cool. I'm not concerned with how you think that relates to me, this isn't about me. it's about ideas. something is true or not true.
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>>51585179
>DoW 1 and had great Ork fun in single and multiplayer.
REEEEEEEEEE DoW1 ORKS
Copetitively they were such bullshit but /tg/ cannot get over the fucking nonsensical Eldar meme long enough to acknowledge it.

Flavorful as fuck with shittons of great lines, of course.
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>>51584958
A Warpsmith within 8" of a unit of Obliterators allows it to fire twice in the same shooting phase at the same target resolved one after another.

Basically...

3 Lascannon shots, resolve.
3 Lascannon shots, resolve.
Is target dead yet? I sure hope so.

Not hard to set up with LoS blocking Terrain or Fortification. The latter being a requirement of an Iron Warriors Grand Company anyways.
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Whats the best set of models to use for kitbashing Terminator Librarians? Having 2 of the same stock pose Librarian gets boring, and even attempting to add flair doesnt help too much.
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>>51585218
nah man it started when you called your friend "autistic" for yelling WAAAGH as an orc player
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>>51585246
that wasn't me lel, there are like 5 people talking about this now.
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>>51585232
grey nights have a shitload of librarian-related bits but I hope you enjoy converting
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>>51584873
>tfw none of my female friends are into "nerd shit" but were all impressed by my 40k collection anyway
>tfw half of them are my friends' girlfriends
>tfw the other half are butt-ugly even for my standards
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>>51585218
The only thing that's true here is that it's more cool to roleplay or joke while playing a game than to hush everyone up so we don't ruin what other people think of you in particular on the off chance some "normies" happen to be walking by. Why can't you see how stupid this is?
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If the Necrons were given a badass special character out of the gathering storm what or who would it be? Void dragon or the silent king?
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>>51585289
wasn't me. if you want to make crazy toot noises with your mouth when you move tanks around go for it. it will become autistic if you do it every day though.
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>>51585230
except if you read closely it does NOT allow them to ignore the different weapon requirement. so it would be 3 lascannon shots, then 3 shots of something else.
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>>51585280
How heavy would it be? Simple filing is ok with me, but my green stuff work is pretty terrible.
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>>51585304
Silent King. The Void Dragon emerging from Mars would buttfuck the Imperium harder than Abby ever could.
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>>51585289
Who said anything about hushing people up? Just because someone doesn't like one extreme it does mean they're going to gravate towards another.

Screaming in public, if you're over the age of 6, is embarrassing but you're free to do it.
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>>51585304
>void dragon
This would require mars to fuck up and let it out, sounds about right with age of emperor coming up.
Also, seeing as though gathering storm is a trilogy, does that mean we only get one more triumvirate? Xenos triumvirate:
1 tau, 1 ork, 1 nid/cron?
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>>51585315
nobody's arguing against being reasonable or using self-control. This is about getting upset about goofiness or roleplaying while playing a goofy rp game.
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>>51585322
just check the grey knights sprues on the GW website to see if it's fine for you.

>but my green stuff work is pretty terrible

no time like the present to git gud
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>>51585347
>goofy rp game
What game would that be?

We're talking about 40k.
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>>51585324

more like

>OK Guilliman lets do this: I take this weight off mars and trow it into the biggest tesseract Labyrinth that i have, and you help me with Tsara'Noga and her Zerg creatures?
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>tfw no battle report using any Fall of Cadia formation in sight

Oh man, this is annoying.
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>>51585375
Which is by any definition goofy. Could easily be classed as rp if you get into it. I myself write stories for my dudes, and I definitely think it's fair to say there is an rp component to this game.
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>>51585354
Ill try and get a set for some kitbashing. Doesnt look too difficult.
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>>51585179
I never said they weren't fun.

I just said that Eternal Crusade is the only one where they are both fun and can win consistently.

Battlefleet Gothic is great, though.
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>>51585375
>40k isn't goofy

hol up

*reloads shuriken-firing gun*

so you be sayin

*shoots a soccer hooligan space ork*

you tellin me

*hops in anime-inspired mecha suit*

we wuz serious n shit?
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>>51585435
*unsheathes chainsaw sword*

completely
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>>51585318
Wrong again, nerd.
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So, how many more triumvirates are coming up?
Any guesses for each one?
Nid characters?
Cron characters?
Tau prospects?
Kroot hq?
Riptide/MC hq?
shadowsun?
New ethereal?
Farsight's the eight boxed set?
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>>51585400
didnt mini war gaming have a battle report with black templars, celestine and that thicc inquisitor?
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I know I'm asking a lot but I need some advice with this list.

I'm trying to hit a 2k army list, I have this, and a 500 pts Knights list that I can attach easily. But what should I do with the other 575? I was initially going to get some Space Marines as allies because Centurions are cool, but then Skitarii codex came out, plus running 3 armies at once might be hard.

Basically, pls halp, where do I sink the remaining 575 pts?
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>>51585619
>Nid characters?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>51585619
Possibly all those you mention just with an Imperial Triumvirate in between each release.
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Do artifact weapons gain the ap of a demonprince? I was looking to use a demonprince with hydras teeth for potential 11 attacks per round. you get another attack for every 6 too. Was thinking if it gained ap 2 from being used by the demonprince it would be pretty kickass.
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>>51585674
yes.
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New AdMech player here without even a single game played yet. So far I have a Start Collecting Skitarii set, the Eradication Cohort and an extra Tech-Priest and box of Skitarii.
Was going to assemble my Skitarii as 15× Vanguard, 5x Ranger but I'm not sure what to do with the Kataphrons, Sicarians and Ironstrider.
My starting games are probably all going to be at 850 points to start slow and steady and I'm sure I'll have to buy some more stuff eventually (most notably another Kataphron squad) but what kind of list would be good for now?

Was considering either a Dominus Maniple + Skitarii Maniple list or a Grand Convocation (maybe picking up an Enginseer as a cheap HQ) or either Holy Requisitioner or Elimination Maniple + Skitarii Maniple (after buying a second Kataphron unit).

TL;DR AdMech newfag needs some list advice and which unit variations he should assemble
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Thank you, Tzeentch, for guiding the Patriots through the super bowl!
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>>51585619
Crons would be easiest, since they've got a bunch of things with wacky lords they could do. Orks are in a similar boat.

Tau could get Prok back as a Kroot HQ, perhaps alongside their new Spacepope after the Ethereals pick a successor and 'reveal' that Aun'va died. Third could be a Broadside commander unless they wanted to do something.

Tyranids would have to be Genestealer cult special characters along with perhaps another specialized strain type of unit like the Neurothrope.

Another option may be that some of these other armies may have their triumverates mixed, with each only getting a single character in an event involving 3 factions.
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>>51585721
God, no. Please. You're going to bring /sp/ and /pol/ in here to shit up the thread...
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>>51585721
What a game m80
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>>51585674
of course, any melee weapon wielded by an MC becomes AP2
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>>51585729
why would /pol/ come?
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>>51585455
And I quote:
Cult of destruction
"Carry out the first set of attacks to completion, then carry out the second set of attacks. A unit must use different weapons for the two different sets of attacks, and cannot use a weapon it used in the previous turn"

So you can't get 6 lascannon shots out of three obliterators. Nerd.
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>>51585734
WHAT. A. GAME!
Only a god of chaos or a tactical genius could have planned that comeback
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>>51585692
>>51585754
holy balls. 5+d6 attacks, and any 6s become more attacks at WS 8 and I 6 with ap 2. unf. Even if you use it on a rhino or vehicle, that ap 2 is gonna cause explosions for any pens.
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>>51585652
didn't we just have one?
more imperials, fuck that.
Though I would love sly marbo to come back
>>51585641
Pick up scions for deeps strike shenanigans
>>51585650
They could work like a stationary hq or something?
Maybe an infested imperial/xenos character?
>>51585728
Never use/build electropriests, shittest unit in codex.
>>51585728
Would love a C'tan character, don't even play crons.
New ork character as well sounds good.
GSC character sounds good, infested commissar of something?
While I don't approve of it, a tau MC hq and a tau fmc are up next for weaboo space robots.
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>>51585633
They only had Greyfax with Templars and some IG troops and Creed so far. Nothing from the actual book though.
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>>51585811
>Pick up scions
I know literally nothing about Scions or IG at all, what kind of synergy do they have with DA?
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>>51585828
Scions are there to deep strike and melta the fuck out of big shit.
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>>51585811
>Tau FMC

They already got the Coldstar Commander upgrade to make a Crisis suit behave exactly like one. Plus the R'vahrna from forgeworld has a giant jet turbine to do it temporarily.

A Riptide commander would just be ridiculous.
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>>51585760
Pats were "Trump's Team". So they're gonna come in here screaming about pepe, maga shit, and whatever else they spew onto the keyboard.
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>>51585811
>new Ork character
Or, you know, some of our old ones. Named Wierdboy, bring back Nazreg or sommit.
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>>51585762
Ah. Yes. The fine print. Missed that bit. Damnit.
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>>51585765

Brady played the rope-a-dope and tired out the defense.
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>>51585862
This is assuming I don't put the Thermal Cannon on my Knight and/or there are more than 2 or 3 big shits?

Or just insurance?

Either way I'll look at scions, but I also took made an option list that added Vindicators and a kick-ass Librarian.
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>>51585920
OR
Bill Belichick is secretly CREED trapped in the past and using his genius for the best possible cause.
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>>51585828
Well, first of all, scions and IG are 2 very different armies.
I don't know much about DA but I can tell you what each of them can bring that would also be useful to your list.
>Scions:
Pick up a Hellrain Brigaide (start collecting box), when kitted out becomes about 400 points.
What it give you, a command squad, a commisar, one scion squad, one taurox prime.
As long as the commisar is alive, the scion squad (not command squad) goes into ongoing reserves when it dies with the same wargear they had before, give them 2 meltas, give the sergeant a plasma pistol and there you have a cheap and infinite deep striking suicide melta squad.
>IG:
Depending on what you want, you could take an emperor's wrath artillery formation for artillery everywhere, alternatively conscript blobs, while pricey are a good tarpit and screen.
Alternatively, pick up IA1 2nd edition and tun armoured brigaide. 1 Leman russ commander, 2 leman russ as troops choices, then pimp them out for some nice obsec tanks, yes obsec leman russ tanks.
>>51585876
>would be ridiculous
Yes, but it would sell like hot cakes, you can't deny that, especially if they came in a win.
>>51585912
I'm a newfag from 6ed, don't know anything about old characters.
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>>51581685
I want to start playing Warhammer 40k should I just head down to my LGS when they are playing or should I do something else to start?
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If you /sp/ fucks want to shit up /tg/ with your handegg nobody cares for at least do it in the Blood Bowl thread.
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>tfw I walk 5 NL terminators with 4 combi-plas and an Autocanon across the field

Fite me
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>>51585953
>should I just head down to my LGS when they are playing
As long as you're non-disruptive to the games people are playing (ie. Show up early, as people are setting up if you want to chat)

>>51585965
>The closest I've ever been to a sporting event was a boardgame
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>>51585883
dog I'm from New England and Trump is not even liked around here if you don't count New Hampshire, which you shouldn't
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>>51585929
Thermal Cannon is a garbage weapon. Just take an Avenger Gatling Cannon and glance things to death, or take the Battle Cannon and doubletap shit. There is nothing that the Thermal Cannon can out DPS by comparison.
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How does this look?
I was thinking of having the Harlies in the raiders, and the blasterborn in the starweaver (my group has the house rule that allies can deploy in each others vehicles as long as they're battle brothers).
I was also thinking of putting a shadowseer with each troupe, and a death jester with each kabalite/trueborn squad,and sticking the succubus with the shadowseer that has the mask of secrets in the hopes of getting the mirror of minds phantasamancy spell and laughing maniacally at the -4 leadership.
In the end is Cegorach's Revenge worth it?
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>>51586001
It honestly feels like the Thermal Cannon should've been default and the Gatling the upgrade. That thing has got to be the single most MEQ killy gun in the entire game.
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>>51586001

>not taking the giant melta gun with the mega bolter

It's like you don't believe in the emperor
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>>51586042
>lets take a S9 AP1 36" large blast, with a 18" melta effect

>this is better than two S8 AP3 Ordnance Large Blast

It's like you don't even know what the fuck Ordnance means.
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>>51586023
The Thermal is a default on a few, and it can be upgraded.

The problem is the Crusader is just the best Knight ever. Take 3 of them and laugh as your opponent can't do anything against your unlimited dakka.

Ally up a few Iron Hands Techmarines on bikes and some scouts or marines for cheap fodder/scoring units.
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I have lots of Epic stuff, and made an Epic list based on NetEA. Please r8

Ranger Warhost - 200pts
x4 Rangers
x3 War Walkers

Ranger Warhost - 200pts
x4 Rangers
x3 War Walkers

Aspect Warrior Troupe - 375pts
x6 Fire Dragon
x3 Wave Serpent

Aspect Warrior Troupe - 250pts
x6 Swooping Hawk
+ Swooping Hawk Exarch

Aspect Warrior Troupe - 225pts
x6 Dark Reapers

Wind Rider Troupe - 200pts
x6 Vyper

Wind Rider Troupe - 200pts
x6 Vyper

Revenant Titan - 350pts

Total: 2000
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>>51582855
Alpha legion ok

Infiltrating objective secured marines and chosen with turn 1 shrouded
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>>51586342
Alpha legion let you infiltrate CSM and Chosen, but people think they are bad?

Are they fucking retarded?
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>>51584876
>It's a magical key. It opens an unmarked, massive chamber in a hidden area of the martian catacombs
>Suddenly Void Dragon awakes
>Necron triumvate
>Book 3: The War for Mars
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>>51586001
Thermal cannon is good for instant deathing T4 2+ models
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Just started playing admech. How does this list look? I'm probably going to be playing against a good amount of CSM, Marines and Daemons.
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>>51586379
Those are pretty rare seeing as riptides exist.
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>>51586411
I was thinking battle suits or any multi wound T4/2+
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>>51585948
>don't know anything about old characters.
The orks have a lot, a lot of old characters, plus a bunch of newer ones who could use overhauls.

Not to mention any of the snakebite characters coming back could be an excuse to release a new cavalry kit.
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>>51586463
Riptides deal with those quite handily, which is why you don't see many of them. Crisis suits already get ID by battlecannons.
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>>51586391
Drop the Arquebuses, they're not worth the points

If you're gonna run 2 Kastelans you should make them a Cohort Cybernetica for an invincible robot deathstar.

Spend the money from the Arquebuses on an Enginseer and use him as the HQ for your 2 Kataphrons

Eradication Beamer is crap. Neutron or Icarus or go home.

1 Balistarii is not worth the trouble, will die fast. Better off having Dragoons
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>>51586477
Riptide(wings) were a mistake
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Somebody make a new thread so I can drop the best list you fuckers have ever seen
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Returning to the game after a year or so off, how does my orks list look?
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what are you Iron Warrior fags gonna do When Peturabo becomes a loyalist again?
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Thoughts on the ITC/LVO finish?
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Let me see if I understand this right.

You can't save a wound more than once (i.e. I can't roll my armor, fail, then roll my invuln) I have to roll my best save I have available unless it's negated.

If a save is negated, I get the next best save (i.e. my 2+ save with my termi was negated because of an AP1 weapon, so I can roll my 3+ cover save now)

Invuln saves can't be negated.

FNP and IWND still stack with other saves, since they are dependant on unsaved wounds.

IWND can heal wounds taken from previous turns.

Is any of that right?
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>>51586541
Is it better than 6 Valkyries deep striking turn 1?
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I want to throw in some extra spammy firepower for my Chaos Marine army. Would I be better off with a few Obliterators for the variety of guns, or a double-ranged weapon Contemptor from forgeworld?
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>>51586584
WHich was what?
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>>51586584
>40 Fen wolves
>with DA
[muffled triggered in the distance]
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>>51586597
Yep. Seems accurate. Only weird thing is listing IWND with the others, since it's more of a thing you do to heal on your turn rather than involved when getting shot.
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>>51586584
What was the daemon list?
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>>51586597
Nothing specifically says Invulns can't be negated, there are some rules that mess with them.

IWND does nothing to wounds as they're taken, it's a roll that occurs at a specific turn point that heals previously taken wounds.
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>>51586584
Are all the lists and scores going to be posted?
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Newfag here, I'm painting up my first batch of space marines. Should I save attaching arms and rifles until after I have the rest painted, then glue them on and paint?
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>>51586612
I'd go with Obliterators because they deepstrike and weapons are adaptable.
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Which army better represents the concept of RIP AND TEAR?
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>>51586700
Khorne Daemons.
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>>51586630

He lost to renegades.

>>51586628

Renegades won LVO, WarCon won ITC

>>51586659

Most likely in the next few days, you can find final scores on the Best Coast Pairings website with the link to LVO.

>>51586642

Which one?
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>>51586700
KDK?
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>>51586713
>Renegades
Who?
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>>51586580
He's a Daemon Prince, dude. Even confirmed in Traitor Legions supplement.

There's no going back for any of the Chaos Primarchs except MAYBE Omegon/Alpharius/who-the-fuck-ever-it-actually-is
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>>51586713
yay
what was renegade list? also wasnt LVO and ITC the same thing?
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>>51586678
paint them separate from the main assembly, then attach with super glue.
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>>51586721
Traitor guard if I'm not mistaken, fw army.
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>>51586721

Renegades from IA11 (I think) - its the traitor guard army.
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>>51586598
Probably, honestly.
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>>51586681
Hmm...that's a fair point. Hadn't considered the deep-striking, but I really like the sound of it now.
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>>51586700
any army with shotguns
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>>51586084
But anon, it IS better.
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>>51586723
Hes a good man at heart.

#bring our boy back
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>>51586678
as a newbe just use plastic glue to assemble your models then paint it as a whole dont assemble after painting unless you know what your doing
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>>51586700
Imperium specific?

Blood Angels are pretty much made for SMITE AND CLEAVE
Star Yiffs
Dark Angels on a Deathwing list

In general?
Probably a Khorne Daemon list.
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TFW you have Magnus and Lord of Change built and ready to be primed, but it's 35'C and 71% humidity outside. We all knows what happens when you spray the GW primer in these conditions...
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Can a demon prince with wings join a bike squad, and just use his wings like a jump pack to move with them 12 inches a turn?
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>>51586808

Your friend is bad and so are you. He didn't play a cheese army in the slightest.
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>>51586804
Magnus and a LoC is 1000 points by itself.
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>>51586823
And that makes taking a board completely to his advantage ok?
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>>51586808
>one with as much customization as 40k?
40k is on the low-end, you fucking pleb

Also, firewarrior's are not cheese, you're just shit.

You left for a reason, so stay out, you fucking whiner.
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>>51586818
lol
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>>51586750
No, it's not.

There's not a single thing that the thermal cannon does that the battle cannon doesn't beat it.

Killing TEQs? Cool, you wound on the same number (2s) but you get only one shot. And you used it on TEQs rather than something else. Battle Cannon? Double tap the squad with Ordnance. The one melta will only do so much vs blobs or tanks. Especially since the battle cannon isn't effective limited to 18"

If you're close enough to melta anything that you have deemed a threat, your knight is as good as dead. Land Raider full of Hammernators? Congrats, you just opened them up without any way to kill them. Another knight? Hope to fuck you hit at the same initiative, or else you're in range to get melta'd and murdered in CC.

Battle Cannon + Avenger Gatling will out-shoot anything.
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>>51585948
>Old Ork characters

It's not your fault you don't know about them, GW pretty much stopped talking about everybody but Ghazzy and his butt buddies.

Let's talk about a couple:
Ol' Zogwort, the most badass Wierdboy in the galaxy, best known for his signature curse that turned people into squigs.

Nazdreg Ug Urdgrub, Warlord of the Bad Moons, the richest and most flash Ork in the galaxy. He played second fiddle to Ghazzy during Armageddon, but he's doing his own thing right now. Notable for being the only canon ORK SNIPER.

Mek Boss Buzgob, technically still current because Forge World is retarded about their old rulebooks, but is so hopelessly outdated that the only reason people take him is for his 400pt Stompa transport.

Skalk Bluetoof, another Forge World character, who was notable for being the ONLY Deff Skull character, and for being able to take a Gargantuan Squiggoth as a dedicated transport.

Wazdakka Gutsmek, an ork biker so awesome Jaghatai Khan and Doomrider look like toddlers on tricycles in comparison. This dude drove up a frakking TITAN and murderized it, and now the flaming skulls of its crew are his prized possession.

And that's just the dudes who had rules. Don't get me started on guys who should have rules, like Tuska Daemonkilla.
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>>51586858
Find a way to counter his strategy because it's not cheesy or groundbreaking. You're fucking Necrons, you have all the tools you need to get around it.
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>>51586858
You agreed to it, dummy
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>>51586856
Not playing them. They are display miniatures that will be going in a competition.
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>>51586858

Watch battle reports. This isn't worth discussing, you are flat out bad. Do some research and watch some games and reevaluate your stance.
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Savagery
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>>51586858

You have access to Wraiths and Scarabs FFS. It isn't the game's fault that you are terrible.
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>>51586897
This is also true, more terrain hinders shooty armies, like the Tau Firebros
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>>51583822

See, this here is one hell of an underrated post! This is why I defend 40k against other brands fanboys and haters alike. Because, no matter how you twist and turns it, GW has such a library of bits and bobs you can build shit like this, and it looks fucking awesome!!!

Great job anon, great job! Keep the hobby spinning!
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>>51586808
>people complaining about Tau picking a map with lots of cover on it

Never thought this day would happen
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>>51586886
Very nice choices then. I think the new LoC is my favourite new release in awhile.
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>>51586913
just go to fucking /wip/ then, you fucking hobbyist.

>>51586919
Dude doesn't know his ass from his elbow, that's for sure.
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>>51581685
I'm Not Really a Phone Poster

>>51586907

>>51586907

>>51586907
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>>51586885
>>51586897
>>51586911
I"m not even the same guy. Good to know it's ok to shape boards to your advantage though.
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>>51586919
We use a lot of jsj now.

People bitched enough about gunline, we play mobile now.
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>>51586858
>High density terrain
>To Tau's advantage

If anything, that's a benefit for you. That many buildings makes blocking LoS a breeze, and basically means all of his big guns aren't at their full potential. Who cares about 30" infantry guns when any given alleyway is only 5" across?

From the sound of it, he didn't even take Jet pack units to abuse all the walls. In fact, you had jet pack units that could abuse the walls. Who cares if you're taking dangerous terrain tests? It's on a 1, and then you've got armor and reanimation.
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>>51586953
putting more terrain on the table hurts the Tau and helps the Necrons.
Both players agreed to the table before the game. Even if Necronbro didn't see the table, he OK'd it like a moron.
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>>51583726
More info needed.
What do you want from your army?
What sort of fluff thing appeals to you?
Do you like strong elite units or hordes or something in between?
Do you like the idea of shooting/psychic or assault more?
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>>51586880
Sorry anon, you took the bait. I don't even know what you two were arguing about.
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>>51586808
This has got to be bait
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>>51587033
if it is bait, its succeeded spectacularily
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>>51584071
This is probably the most retarded post I have ever read on 4chan.
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>>51586808
>through tabletop simulator
I'm sorry, what? This is a thing?
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>>51584321
You have to add between each word, new friend.
Good job picking up your first meme though.
Keep at it buddy!
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>>51586729
Super glue or plastic weld cement?
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>>51587207
if you're gluing things that are already painted, use super glue. Plastic glue fucks paint.
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>>51584641
>Confirmed for not knowing anything
Thanks for letting us know, though we already knew that about you.
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>>51584951
I wear my imperial guard uniform everywhere I go, and bang like 30 women a day because they love it.
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>>51587260
;^}
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>>51585168
No, what he is saying is, if you told someone about about Chad, and all you said was "Chad plays 40k", they will instantly think he is a loser or a weirdo (generally speaking).
If you said after that he had a yacht and heaps of money afterwards, that is what the girl is attracted too.
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>>51585285
Did they say "that's cute that you collect those things? They look cool"?
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>>51587312
To be 100% honest, it depends on the chick more than anything to do with the guy. My current GF got interested in 40k when she saw me doing shit with minis, she got into the game then we started dating. Some females are just cool. Most are gold diggers though.
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>>51585446
>Didn't say deadly instead of completely
Wasted opportunity
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>>51587207
Either don't paint the area where pieces connect, or avoid it and scrape the paint off with a knife or something.

Paint to paint or paint to plastic is an extremely weak bond, so your pieces will break if you glue paint together.

Also plastic glue is really easy to ruin your model with.
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>>51584965
it's not 40k. It's you, bro. You're a fucking dweeb. And your insecurity about what others think of you seals the deal. You're probably intolerable IRL.
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My two "friends" are total normies who are WAAC out the wazoo and look down on anyone trying to have fun and not be competitive they only let me hang out with them so they can whoop me in 40k/watch me get whooped in tournies after giving me cheese shit to us/false confidence and use me as the butt of all their literally gay jokes
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>>51587477
All three of you are faggots. You're probably the worst of the lot though.
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>>51586808
>he actually deleted the post
guys it wasn't bait
he was actually genuinely that retarded
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>>51587504
HOLY SHIT
NecronBro BTFO
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>>51587492
How am I the worst? Back that shit up
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A professor of mine got me hooked on the fluff and now I want to get into the game. The only faction that really interests me though is the Sisters. Are there any good resources about them I can read up on before I commit?
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>>51587504
It's been posted before I'm pretty sure.
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>>51587504

or somebody reported his post? and mods deleted it rofl?
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>>51587523
How the fuck are you not?
You willfully allow yourself to be fucked around with. You're basically the weak little slut of the group who can't do any better to find decent friends. At least your WAAC friends are friends with each other, but you're too shitty to have anyone.
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>>51587529

Wait a year for new models.
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>>51587534
Mod's don't do shit on /tg/ least of all on /40kg/
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You guys fucking suck. All you ever post is unfunny memes and drawfag shit. Post some of your fucking armies you unfunny queers.
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>>51587570
alright
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>>51587548
thanks for confirming what i already fucking know captain mcfuckingobvious
eat shit and die asshole what else am i supposed to fucking do
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FAVOURITES
SM Chapter
>Imperial Fists (any rogal dorn decendant)
CSM Warband
>World Eaters
Chaos God
>Khorne (Papa Nurgle close second but only beauce I favour his fluff, khornes aesthetics are superior IMO)
Eldar Craftworld
>Ulthwe

havent done enough reading on other armies to form an opinion

What can you fa/tg/uys tell about me from these selections?
>What are yours if youre so smart fgt?
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>>51587610
>what else am i supposed to fucking do
sack up, be a man, make real friends.
It's not /tg/'s job to tell you how to be a functioning human being (nor should you take life advice from us, really). But, goddamn are you a pathetic worm.
Join the Army for 2 years if you really don't know how to be a man, christ.
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>>51587582
Thats not what I meant retard faggot. Your PHYSICAL army. Jesus Christ if I see another screencap from that damn wedsite asking "IS THIS LE VIABLE LIST!?"
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>>51587610
Stand up for yourself? Or at the very least cut them off. There comes a point in every man's life where he has to stop being a bitch and it sounds like for you that time is now.
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>>51587652
Go to /WIP/ if you want to look at paintjobs, that's not what this general is for.
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>>51587639

>Army makes you a man

That's a nice theory, but this guy sounds like he'd go insane or have a mental breakdown if subjected to the military lifestyle. Or maybe that's what you want?
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>>51587207
>>51587383
Thanks for clearing that up. Cheers!
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>>51587582
What did you use to make this?
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>>51587563

Oh wow. Thank you.
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>>51587730
np but be aware that new sister models have been 'in the works' for years not sure why this time it would be any different
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>>51587703
>Army makes you a man
Worked for me. But, I always was a gun nut with a penchant for physical and mental strain.
IMO, the army's way of pounding down any nail that stands up is just what it takes to turn a worm into a decent man. But I guess there are a few so lowly and pathetic that they can never fit that mold ie Chelsea Manning
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>>51587652
what if someone has a list and they want critique on it
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>>51587751

>"Chelsea"

Come on now, at least use its real name.
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>>51586700
Chaos

Any chaos take your pick.
Chaos space marines, just give everyone a chainsword and your good.

Some people will say Khorne demons but Nurgle, and Slaanesh demons do the job has as well.
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I hate my fucking life
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>>51587992
Why anon?
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