Pathfinder General /pfg/

What ideas would you have for a campaign that's about weird occult shit in not-Victorian England?

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>>51581157
>when you roll 1s and 2s repeatedly and die to a cube in the first session of the game

>>51581186
Jack the Ripper maybe?

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New books are in :3

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>>51581200
>When you encourage your GM to use the crit and fumble cards
>This then gets your head cut off by a pirate
I deserved it.

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>>51581200
IT BURNS

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>>51581212

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>>51573861
New thread, new post.
I continue to make progress on my bloodborne project. I've gotten one class and four archetypes to a playable state so far. Currently working my way through a bestiary. This'll be my last thread posting this (unless someone comes up with a request for content, which'll I'll try to fill to the best of my ability as soon as possible). I'll update again once I complete my bestiary (which will likely be many moons from now).

In other news, if any creative, listless writers out there wanted to take a crack at writing a better class description for the Bloodborne Hunter then that would be amazing.

>The Bloodborne Hunter
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NW98K-_vTEnS5ELs6UEZgu2WyMX0-hwrfEoMKGdUXlE

>Blood-Addled Hunter [Archetype]
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1U85TQ-_b_anKdM2O9AzRv0XPxvZTZA9y9w_4GgrAzf0

>Charred Hunter [Archetype]
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YbZaK9lW5eaw8xJ7kAOB2HbcA4ac1ypdcl_0nVu9D6s

>Church Hunter [Archetype]
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VXmJ-2sBdCT7W8gZ6uMYpT4nmVoaT3HBYa_5iyCqAUw

>Vileblood [Archetype]
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s5BDGbHbBVnoqLpgMAFAlyz2etbaRLcJouVraeJasRI

>Sample Hunter - Cainhurst Hunter
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tuJxY3OGTYJq-KLnaTdOYg86ERBME7LR5JxdvFYmYXI

>Sample Creature - Beast Patient
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Vau7ZkjE-F3Tjy3sHxIPHbRHkCD_Lm_Un79dP9SAaTU

I love hearing feedback, and thanks to everyone who has given feedback so far! There have been some great suggestions and I really appreciate those of you who are taking the time to read through all this.

Finally, I'm fulfilling the anon's request from yesterday who was looking for a statblock for Father Gascoigne:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1AkUOjgItGhJD_ZEY0woQTPDJWxGorWIAV8Rgp2Bbf80

He uses only 1pp rules, with the exception of the hunter axe which follows the rules for trick weapons found in my Bloodborne Hunter document. He is balanced as an epic encounter for a APL 4-5 party.

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>>51581234

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>>51581255

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>>51581212

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>>51581276

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>>51581186
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Crookes
Read here for inspiration.

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>>51581299

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>>51581319

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>>51581339

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>>51581354

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>>51581299
>Slayer Archetype
>no talents

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>>51581371

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>>51581319
>enlightened noble
*tips feathered cap*

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>>51581391

11/36

>>51581391
>Combat Reflexes off Str instead of Dex
Holy heck.

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>>51581410

12/36

>>51578836
>>51578941
Bouda witch - witch that turns into a hyena/dire hyena monster at higher levels.

Mystery solved.

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>>51581394

m'noble

>>51581428

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>>51581234
>symbolism 101
Sometimes being smart is not a blessing.

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>>51581447

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>>51581391
>defender's reflexes
>Strength for Combat Reflexes

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>>51581459

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>>51581474

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>>51581495

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>>51581513

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>>51581466
Doesn't stack with Lore Warden, Eldritch Guardian, or Drill Sergeant, but it does with Martial Master and Mutation Warrior.

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>>51581528

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>>51581538

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>>51581556

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>>51581447
>another fucking alchemist archetype
>complete with some shitty discoveries right before it

oh yes, pound my ass harder paizo, destroy my hopes for nice things

>>51581459
>an archetype to turn the Paladin into a swashbuckler with gimped smite
>doesn't even have the Cha-based Canny Dodge and delays your mercies

At least it keeps Divine Grace and Lay on Hands, so it's still doing better than the actual Swashbuckler...?

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>>51581575

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>>51581594
Hey Shareanon, do you happen to have Psychic Anthology?

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>>51581594

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>>51581604

>Signs point to yes

>>51581609

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>>51581609
>Sense Magical Interrogation
I know it's not very good, but that's the fluff I do like.

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>>51581630

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>>51581459
We wuz paladins etc. etc.

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>>51581643

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>>51581575
>Tianjing
>literally just Heavenly Capital
Did they just like open google translate or something

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>>51581654

27/36

Mind Reading spells are so fucking STUPID.

>>51581630
>>51581643
Welp, Unchained Monk can gain Tier 3.

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>>51581664

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>>51581339
>dex based leadership

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>>51581684

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>>51581684
>Tops that squish tits together like that
Is there anything better?

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>>51581697

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>>51581699
I don't know.

I'm going to need some more examples to decide.

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>>51581714

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>>51581736

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>>51581736
>an archetype that gains bonuses for dressing up
I wish I knew how Occultist worked.

>>51581594

Righteous Orator is pretty nice. The cost is decently high but the benefits are pretty great.

>>51581157
>Do you allow guns in your games? How have you used them?
Had a hilarious game with a Brood Summoner, taking as many small eidolons as possible, and handing them all rifles. Even got a commissar hat mid way through so I could better order them into ranks for massed fire.

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>>51581755

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>>51581779

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Oh, hey this stuff all sounds cool I hope we get to learn more about it

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>>51581801

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>>51581801
>ShareAnon prepares his double-dump
I was not ready.

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>>51581822

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>>51581736
Damn that is a good archetype.

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Working overtime today!

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>>51581860
Not if you know how occultists work.

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>>51581879

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>>51581879
This looks interesting

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>>51581895

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>>51581664
>>51581654
>a straight up good archetype for the Vigilante

well slap my ass and call me sally

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>>51581917

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>>51581943

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>>51581879
Thank you ShareAnon. you are doing the aeon's work.

>>51581881
Elaborate.

>>51581879
but shareanon, will you also be putting these on imgur so people can post them when people ask about it? Please?

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>>51581963

Blessings to you, my child.

>>51581961

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>>51581970

Nah, too lazy. Someone else has my blessing to do so.

>>51581982

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>>51582002

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>>51581970
>>51582002
I did it for Jewel of the East but I'm too lazy to do it now.
Here's your link archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51581157

>>51581881
>more implement schools
>more spells per day
>more mental focus
>increased DC on spells
>extra implement mastery

All good things.

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>>51582026

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>>51582049

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>>51582069

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>>51581968
You know how people often say "take the wizards spell book, or the fighter's sword, and they're useless?" Occultists LITERALLY have their spells and powers invested in items they carry on hand. No item, no magic. and unlike spell books or weapons, you just can't pick up a random item and use it - it has to have psychic significance beyond just the item itself. And the worst part is, if the item is of the wrong sort for your occultist, you can't even get any powers from it regardles of its psychic significance.

The Silksworn is literally WEARING his spellbook, where any thief, rogue, pickpocket, or person with a knife can destroy, steal, or tear his spells off of him - literally. God forbid you ever crit fumble any save vs an evocation or conjuration that does damage to the objects you wear.

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>>51582089

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>>51581714
>Lover's Breath
>Choker of Body Alteration
Well the traps are going to have a much easier time of things.

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>>51582110

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>>51582125

14/36

>>51582096
Just don't get hit.

>>51582002
Oh, very nice, a functional psychic magus - and getting your weapon destroyed doesn't gimp you.

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>>51582142

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>>51582165

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>>51581663
That's par for the course by chinese naming standards though?
>Beijing

Feat idea, whaddya think?

Benefit: Make a combat maneuver as a full round action. It doesn't provoke AOOs. If you can make a combat maneuver without provoking AOOs, you get +2 against opponents that have moved, and can make ranged combat maneuvers.

Counts as 13 int, dex, combat expertise, etc.

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>>51582184

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>>51582185
Beijing means Northern Capital
Tianjing sounds pretentious as fuck even by Chinese standards, I should know.

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>>51582204

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>>51581714
>that choker

So for shattered star most of the game is underground in tight corridors. I asked last thread and never really got an answer. Should I expect a lot of humanoids and the like? I was thinking of making a fighter with duelist skills with disarm and the like, but if there aren't anyone who uses weapons it won't end too well.

>>51581879
Oooo.. thank you!

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>>51582219

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>>51582148
Hope you chose Conjuration or Abjuraton as your first implements.

>>51582002

>Blackblade Magus Monk in one class

fuck

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>>51582239

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>>51582255

21/36

I HOPE Y'ALL LIKE KINETICISTS

>>51582273

22/36

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>>51582288
FUCK

FORGOT THE PICTURE

22/36 take 2

>>51582226
Shattered star literally has every kind of enemy. However, it should be noted that Espagnoll plans on having rival factions and people working agaisnt us, so you will have plenty of humanoid opponents from that direction.

>>51582288

>I HOPE Y'ALL LIKE KINETICISTS
>22/36

my body is ready

>>51582288
OH MY GOD THE KINETICIST MADE THE IMAGE INVISIBLE!

>>51582026
>NecroDruidThing
Awww yea, I am going to have fun with this.

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>>51582307

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>>51582250
I know, right?

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>>51582334

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>>51582307
>foxfire

NO. NO NO NO NO NO, DON'T YOU DO IT YOU MOTHERFUCKERS

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>>51582358

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>>51581339

What do Dexterity- or Constitution-based Leadership look like?

>>51582255
Material Manipulator: Transforming people into their transgendered forms since now.

Avowed seems extremely underwhelming at lower levels to me. 3d8 blasts is painful as fuck.

>>51582204
Enemy Stand!

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>>51582379

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>>51582384

Probably as hot or lithe bodies that inspire fanboys and fangirls

>>51582401

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>>51582420

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>>51582244
>implying I wouldn't do that anyway

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>>51582441

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>>51582441
So do we ever get pdfs anymore? Not ragging on your image posting, I actually like seeing it page by page in /pfg/, just wondrering if these are the last we'll see of it as a threadly resource.

>>51582002
>nah, too lazy

Welp, guess I'd better get on it then

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>>51582458

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>apps closed for Fluffy almost an hour ago
>No posts in lfg
>No posts in pfg as I've seen
How long do we have to wait?

>>51582447
It's called an ability tax, and that's bad.

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>>51582468

I've never done any of the pdf releases. I'm just here to get you this info asap.

>>51582480

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>>51581459

Why is this new paladin archetype so awful?

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>>51582506

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>>51582519
Because it's not a paladin, it's an effective swashbuckler.

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>>51582526

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>>51582550

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>>51582566

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>>51582493
I am waiting for the eventual salt.

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Got two more little things for ya. Nothing serious, but I think you'll like it. :3

>>51582578

36/36

>>51582506
ok well I'm just literally gonna drop all these images into a paint.net plugin I have to convert images to pdf, hope you don't mind. It'll be unlinked and terrible but whatever.

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I WANT THE COURTLY INTRIGUE BOOK

GIVE IT TO ME

GIVE IT TO ME

GIMME GIMME, SPOIL ME ROTTEN!

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>>51582603

Go for it!

>>51582598

1/2

>>51582519

It's a vast improvement over the swashbuckler. It's just, you know, dragging swashbuckler into your paladin and thus pulling paladin down a bit.

>>51582110
High level Psychics are the new gish.
"Don't mind me, just popping a +16 to every combat roll that matters"

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And I'm spent. Have a great day! :D

>>51582624

2/2

>>51582642
>>51582624
Can we get some context here?

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>>51581556

Veiled Contempt literally does nothing as of the rules for hunches in Ultimate Intrigue.

>>51582652

Guess.

Strange Aeons takes you to the 1920s.

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>>51581630
How bad is this Invested Regent?

>Charisma

>>51582638
That's not a gish, that's just a diviner on crack.

We all know wizards can be OP as hell. But how do you stop overshadowing the other 80% of the party?

>>51582656

HER
NAME
IS
KINU

>>51582728
By not being a fucking tool

>>51582710
Considering it combines with Unchained monk, it isn't, aside from MAD issues.

The bonus feats for monks are nice, but not spectacular. but more utility spells in their place? Priceless.

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>>51582603
>>51582624
Well, here it is, jpeg compressed, unselectable text and no links. For anyone who just needs a copy before a better one appears.

>>51582742
What is "a fucking tool"?

>>51582617
SECOND

>>51582002
>>51582026
We BLEACH now.

>>51582783
A dildo

>>51582728
By realizing most of the stuff /tg/ says OP wizards are CAPABLE do is not what OP wizards CAN do. Half the time it relies on specific choices in school, archetype, and spell selection along with feat selection, combined with metagaming knowledge. Scry and Die, for instance, doesn't fucking work unless you have pieces of the enemy lying around and you use your highest level spell slots.
The rogue replacement wizard spells are still skill checks, and they leave your caster in vulerable positions more often than not by splittign him off the party and away from people who can assist him in not dying by surprise when he triggers fort-save poisons and traps that don't give a fuck about your illusion based defenses that make you impossible to hit for living creatures. Half the time they rely on spells that wizards can't even use without high cost magic items to allow their use. and the entire "you can break a campaign just using the 4 spell slots you gain at each level" is bullshit.

>>51582728
Just cover breadth with your spell, feat and class features selection instead of crushing at particular things. I mean you'll have obnoxiously unparalleled utility, but you won't be making someone who specializes at some job feel outshone unless they were really dogshit at it.

>>51582766
thank you kindly.

>>51581391
High Guardian is... actually good. Nice.

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>>51581714

Will the headband save autists everywhere?

>>51582596
I don't think anyone cares enough to get salty over it.

>>51582796
I want even more Black Blade archetypes!

>>51582755
>>51582710
>>51581630
>>51581643

>Doesn't stack with Scaled Fist

ITS SHIT

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>>51582887
Sure. Get one.

>>51582089
>Shards let a spontaneous caster add to their spells known via gear.
>>51582142
>Outer Channeler
Good, good, but where is my Harrow Medium?
>>51582255
>Revision
Oh the trolling and erp idiocy that is going to come of this.
>>51582307
>10 burn for a single +5 blast attack
Really? I mean really now?
>>51582358
>Aether Architect
Whoa, full stop. Am I reading this right? One burn to make permanent structures out of walls of force? I know the next dungeon the party is going to sidequest in, fuck.
>>51582401
>Kinetic Crafting, Kinetic Invocation
We wizards now.

>>51582728
By removing their allies on whom the rely completely because even though wizards can have defensive spells out the wazoo it doesn't mean that if ten high level fighters or monsters decide to gangbang the wizard there is very little the wizard can do but runaway. Wizards are tactical nukes, but wars are won with infantry, not artillery.

>>51581538
>Feat to use BAB in place of skill ranks
The gods have smiled upon the fighter.

>>51581157
Yeah, I'm actually about to start a hack of Way of the Wicked in a modern-ish fantasy setting- think something like Final Fantasy XV- with modern guns homebrew. No players have currently built for using them, but a few outer guards on the prison break have some.

Trait: Just Do What You Want (Fuck It)
Pick two mental stats. Switch them with regards to your class features. Don't try to cheese this, you know what I mean, have fun, don't make me take it away.

>>51583115
Justify why you have to spend a feat on this.

>>51583136
Justify why you're illiterate.

>>51583136
It says trait silly

>>51581736
This archetype is super busted for Cha/Int races That's essentially +2 points of mental focus which can be VERY valuable. If I build one of these, I'm gonna take Extra Mental Focus and put everything into Int/Cha.

Wow

I cannot /believe/ how busted this archetype is. It's no Exploiter Wizard, but for caster-cultists it's top-tier.

>>51583146
I was raised by an evil witch named Trollmother Gadfly who only taught me in curses.

>>51583168
Sorry to hear that man. Does she know you're on 4chan?

>>51583185
Yep. She forces me to embarrass myself by trying to interact with real, literate human beings on here.

>>51583201
>interact with real, literate human beings
So why are you in /pfg/?

>>51583165
>sunder
>effects that damage clothing/worn items
>steal
>critfail any elemental damage spell save
>lose 20% of your casting capability every time
Yay?

>>51583224
Because he's trapped in the simulation and couldn't get out if he tried.

>>51583224
This is my "me" time, before I have to prepare the entrail broth.

>>51583136
Well the good news it it's a trait, not a feat.

>>51581276

Look at that suave half-elf!

Look at that Seoni queen!

LOOK AT IT!

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>>51582617

>>51583297
I prefer Flapper Seoni >>51582642

>>51583230
It requires a minimum of 80gp to fill every slot. Ooooh noooo.

Also nobody uses the majority of those rules because they're stupid as fuck. Especialyl since in this case, you're not hampering the Occultist, you're just removing their ability to cast. Fun interactive gameplay!

>At 1st level, add the following spells to your Wizard spell list at the listed spell level

>Add the following spells to your wizard spell list at the listed spell level:

Why are there two different descriptions for pretty much the same ability (elemental schools)?

got most of the way through slapping the High Court book before realizing the last few pages were superfluous, so here you go:

http://imgur.com/a/L3T4Z

>>51583335
To make autists ask questions.

>>51582255
Material Manipulator hits a whole lot of fetishes. Weight gain, tg, race change, he can make lolis or grandmas, phisical traits for breast enlargement, dick enlargement, give a pregnant looking belly, probably can do futa, and as a capstone it can make it all near permanent.

Paizo just did a /d/ class.

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>>51581714

I want to wear that Choker as a 12 year old girl and look like a 22 year old!

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>>51582255

>as young as young adult (approximately 8 years old for a human)

Since when was 8 years old "young adult"?

>>51582468
pdf releaases are on another chan.

>>51582307
>Blade Rush.
Okay, that's not too bad. 2 burn form, but gives movement with the attack and it's universal. Bit expensive.

>Blade Whirlwind
Doesn't this still provoke? If it DOESN'T provoke, it's way too expensive for what it does. That "only one thing can be crit" restriction is also there just to tell us to go fuck ourselves, not for balance.

>Detonation
Because fire didn't have enough reflex-half AoEs. Well, it's not terrible, but fire-only is pretty restricted.

>Focused Blast
APPARENTLY telling us to go fuck ourselves wasn't CLEAR enough. +5 to attack and SR penetration for either 10 burn or 5 burn AND half damage? Who in the fuck wrote this? WELL FUCK YOU TOO YOU CUMGUZZLING FUCKFISTING COCKMONGLER!

>Foxfire Infusion
Too expensive. I mean come on. Does it need to be that long? A cheap ploy to justify the 2 burn cost. At least fairie-fire is handy, if nothing else.

>Maelstrom
This one... actually seems like it has some potential. If it weren't for the reflex-fuck-you that lets'em get out of it atop of quartered damage it would be genius, but at least it's an AoE that isn't fire. Not bad, not bad.

>Positive Admixture
2 burn for a simple blast that's wrenched down to half&half. Trash

>Positive Blast
>Never heals
>Only hurts things vulnerable to positive damage as normal damage
I'll stick to the DSP version thank you very much, this one is so fucking limited you have to read it to believe it. Wow.

>Slick Infusion
It's not just 2 burn for something not even as good as grease with a minimum level of 4th to even use... It's ALSO negated by a reflex save and has low duration.

>Spore Infusion
Disease limits it a lot, but against targets that it CAN work against, that's actually pretty good

>Synaptic Infusion
Hey that's pretty g~
>Will Negates + MIND AFFECTING
Nevermind.

>Telekinetic boomerang
Eh, could have some use, but if you can't loosen the strands you don't get to actually use the item, so... do you really need to boomerang that pebble?

>>51583496
There's a joke here somewhere about growth hormones in the beef, old enough to bleed, grass on the field etc.
But yea, I agree 8 is a bit off there.

>>51582255
>Revision says that humans are young adults at the age of 8
It was probably going to be "18". Sasuga Paizo.

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>>51583459
Stop. Cease. Desist.

>>51583496
Since someone let Augunas watch their screen for a minute.

>>51583496

I think this confirms that women as young as 8 are suitable for marriage!

>>51583496
Well in pathfinder humans are adults at 16, half of that is 8, it is a stupid way to go about it, but not as illogical as it sounds if you take it out of the context of the modern era.

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>>51583525

The rules explicitly allow me to play a voluptuous 22 year old woman who is actually a 12 year old girl!

>>51582273
What's wrong with Mel's everything?

>>51583496

It's referring to the Young Character rules. Adulthood is 15 years old.

>>51583459
Sorry, you can only where the choker as a 22 year old girl to look like the 12 year old girl. Common thing for expensive prostitutes to have.

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>>51583459
Better to be a 22 year old woman and transform to look like a 12 year old boy.

>>51583496
Since 609 CE, when the Koran defined it as such.

>>51583557
>>51583544
A young adult is not someone younger than an adult. Young modifies adult, so someone who is a young adult must first be an adult.

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>>51583570

Anon, you're entering incredibly dangerous territory with suggesting you could have 8 year old girls with the minds of filthy 18 year old whores.

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>>51583529
>>51583549

Do not. Do NOT.

>>51582226
Isn't one of the characters literally that? A varisian bravo guy?

>>51583606

Please read.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateCampaign/campaignSystems/youngCharacters.html

>>51582674
Wait, you actually go to Earth in Aeons? I thought you were stuck in Dreamland and that the parasite planet thing had some Earth stuff

>>51582755
>aside from MAD issues.

This is a real issue though.

>>51583600

>CE

Don't you mean AD?

>>51583631
>He doesn't know about the Common Era

>>51583616

This is *official* Paizo material, okay?! I am not saying anything the RAW does not support!

>>51583622
And? Note, humans below 15 cannot be adults, by your source, so they cannot be young adults.

>Running Reign of Winter
>Party has two AoE happy CN casters who more than happily throw fireballs and bombs into allies
>Fear that they will kill Nadya by accident and I have to replace her in the second book
>Have no idea how to replace smol waifu

Help me /pfg/.

>>51583643
Or he does and recognizes it as marxist trickery to de-christianize the world

>>51583643

Isn't the Common Era exactly the same as Anno Domini?

>>51583660
>marxist trickery to de-christianize the world
Are Christfags really this delusional?

>>51583655
I should elaborate: Help me come up with a possible replacement NPC because I have no ideas.

>>51583459
>>51583549
Befriend a 10th level Material Manipulator and you can be an 8 year old who turns any age you want for 10 hours at a time.
Enough time to go have adventures all night and come back to bed for breakfast.

Fighting bad guys, you perverts

>>51583661
Yes. It's a liberal thing. Gotta take all religious references out of everything, even if 90% of the world doesn't even know it's religious.

>>51583661
Yes, it just doesn't have religious connotations.

>>51583684

Anno Domini has religious connotations?

>>51583692
Literally mean "Year of Our Lord."

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>>51581714
>>51583459
>put choker on 9 year old
>can either look like a full grown adult or a developing fetus

>>51583572
The choker can only do gender or age, one at a time. You need a mesmerist pimp to do both.

>>51583692
"The Year of Our Lord" where Our Lord is Jesus.

>>51583696
>>51583712

The vast majority of people don't know that, or don't give a shit???

Sounds like the only people who are getting upset about this are the people who both understand what AD means and care about what AD means.

>>51583692
translates to "In the Year of our Lord"

BC is "Before Christ"

It's extremely stupid because Atheists should recognize Christ as the most important person to have ever lived, and he's the second most important prophet in Islam too, so who the fuck is being insulted by using his birth for the calendar?

>>51582334
>Tremor
That is a LOT of fucking situational for a LOT of fucking burn. Your campaign better revolve around umber hulks and bulettes.

>Verdant Blast
The less shitty version of positive admixture, but wood, and still shitty.

>Absentia
Not gonna complain here. Being able to use it on another too ain't bad.

>Aether Architect
Someone didn't think this through. Someone didn't think this through at all. I fucking WANT to abuse this, and I can't imagine anyone who gets that that wouldn't. This shit's going Legoland.

>Body of Air
Pretty meh. I guess if you really want it.

>Corpse Puppet
KoP has the same stuff but less lame.

>Cryostasis
Mage uses ice block while shaman gets torn to shreds because fuck you you don't get any defensive soaks like that.
... No wait that's WoW.

>Curse Breaker
Would be better if we could use it on others, but for a situational it's a hell of a lot better than that tremor one. If curses are gonna be a thing (I dunno maybe you're playing pathfindravenloft) that can be quite handy.

>Earth Tongue
Why is this level 8? Seriously. Especially with the "Drawback". Paizo shot themselves in the fucking foot with the potential for this. It's like Geists in WoD with the ghosts never leaving them alone.
>Please, help us oh powerful one, I'm stuck in a shoe! I'M STUCK IN A SHOE!
>Someone's stepping on me oh gods
>The tumbling, all that water, make it stop, MAKE IT STOP!

>Foxfire
Yeah the infusion sucks, use this instead.

>Greater Green Tongue
Not sure, honestly. How useful is commune with nature normally? No really I'm asking.

>Healing Burst
... Oh this is bad for a regular kineticist. Real bad.
... But those with 3pp support... that has some potential there.

>Herbal Antivenom
Not terrible. I mean it's free, so, yeah.

>Living Capacitor
... uh... is this... uh. I mean. You get zapped, forget about it, two days later you get laid and... um...
>NO, CYRIL, WHEN THEY'RE DEAD THEY'RE JUST HOOKERS.

>>51583692
Anno Domini is "Year of our Lord" or "Year of the Lord"
And BC is "Before Christ"

>>51583720
>so who the fuck is being insulted by using his birth for the calendar?

Common Era was first suggested by Jewish intellectuals, sooooooooooooo

>>51583549
But it'll be challenging to get boys that way, and you could get boys already if you're voluptuous and 22. It's better to loan it to your 12 year old sister to get boys YOUR way!

>>51583720
>Use of the CE abbreviation was introduced by Jewish academics in the mid-19th century.
Jeez I wonder.
I still support use of CE since there's no evidence to support Jesus's birth in 1 AD.

>>51583720
>It's extremely stupid because Atheists should recognize Christ as the most important person to have ever lived, and he's the second most important prophet in Islam too, so who the fuck is being insulted by using his birth for the calendar?
Everyone else who doesn't belong to an Abrahamic religions?

Why does this booty blast you so much? I agree it literally doesn't matter but why do you care so much?

>>51583720
>most important person to have ever lived
>not Genghis Khan

How optimistic of you.

>>51583733

The percentage of people who actually give a shit about that is about equal to the people who get [TRIGGERED] by interracial marriage in movies or TV.

>>51583720
>most important person to have ever lived
Oh please, everyone knows Keisar Ephes had no REAL son, and the spirit-emperor that replaced him was little more than a puppet in his grand scheme to end the universe and thus himself.

>>51583752
>Why does this booty blast you so much? I agree it literally doesn't matter but why do you care so much?

>It literally doesn't matter
>But we're still going to change the name to some dry, sterilized term that doesn't actually make any fucking since because it matters

>>51583759
A lot? I mean, we have a board full of those types and even ignoring that do you know how big of a shitstorm that shit used to cause?

Keep in mind you got in shit for showing a black man and white man SHAKING HANDS back in the day.

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>>51583720
>>51583753
The most important human to have ever lived is Thomas Midgley Jr.

>>51583720
How so? What did he do that affects atheists?

>>51583778
Do you think I made the rule or something?

>>51583778
History should be dry and sterilized, and AD makes no more sense than CE, since Jesus wasn't born in 1 AD.

>>51583230
>steal/sunder spell component bag
>wizards clearly not good then
Are you fucking retarded? The archetype can even use actual magic items, which are harder to do shit to, and means they're literally as vulnerable as everyone else to the DM being a fucking dick to their gear.

>>51583746
Do they not have the census? The one that happened like a couple weeks after his birth?

>>51583753
Philisophical argument of definitions, you have to taper off attributing events to previous events or the most important person would be our ancestral Prometheus that first harnessed fire.

>>51583752
Abrahamic religion rules the world to a vast extent.

>>51583791
Created the moral and ethical guidelines to Western Society and unified a continent and almost the whole world

>>51583804
>History should be dry and sterilized

Fuck you.

No seriously, fuck you.

History being a dry, sterilized affair is precisely why History is one of the subjects most despised by children in the modern age. It's why History is so rife with casual misconception and Hollywood embellishment that is taken at face value as the truth. History needs to be raw and immersive, taken with understanding of the cultural and religious values of that day and age. One of the greatest sins you can teach a child is to enforce modern values on an ancient man.

>>51583785
Explain

>>51582420
>kinetic knight
>stacks with roil dancer
Already got a new build in mind.

>>51583720
Jews don't think he's the most important person to have ever lived, if he even lived.

Buddhists don't think he's the most important person to have ever lived, if he even lived.

Zoroastrians don't think he's the most important person to have ever lived, if he even lived.

Ancient Greeks don't think he's the most important person to have ever lived, if he even lived.

Shinto followers...
Taoists...
Hindu...

Also the Babylonian pantheon is suing for plagiarism.

>>51583832
>Abrahamic religion rules the world to a vast extent.
Most of the countries running shit have secular governments with a shrinking religious population.

Most of the countries running shit run shit PRECISELY because they're secular.

You guys realize even if English changed to EC most western languages would still use Before Christ and After Christ? Since the actual number wouldn't change, the rest of the world would just look at you funny for having stupid measurements.

We already do that with your weird unscientific, not decimal compliant, measures of weight, size/distance and volume.
Fucking feets and ounces.

>>51583832
>or the most important person would be our ancestral Prometheus that first harnessed fire

Technically I have to accept that.

>>51581682
Wow.

This is kind of disorienting.

>>51583856
>Zoroastrians don't think he's the most important person to have ever lived, if he even lived.
They dead nigga
>Ancient Greeks don't think he's the most important person to have ever lived, if he even lived.
They dead nigga.
>Shinto followers
Few and far between. Isn't Japan mostly atheist now?

>>51582189
So, a Dirty Fighting alternative?

>>51583860
Not decimal compliant, but it costs less to keep 'em. I mean, even the UK isn't changed all the way over yet on all the signage. That takes time, that takes money, and boy howdy does it get worse the bigger your country is.

I'm not even sure if all of Russia's signage is changed over yet or if half of Siberia's still stuck with whatever signage and labels they had before.

>>51583507
To be fair, with the DSP version nothing can fucking resist Positive Energy damage. Way too OP, Paizo's one is more balanced.

>>51582728
By not playing wizards.

>>51583856
>Also the Babylonian pantheon is suing for plagiarism.

I recall their being a very convincing video that debunked the so-called "truth" of the Christ story that people love to flaunt around here so much.

I'm not going to suggest Christ was original, but I'm sure as hell not going to admit Jesus Christ's birth, life and resurrection was some hackneyed retelling of Osiris or Ishtar. If anything, those deities became associated with Jesus because the Church deliberately subsumed them into the fold.

Also
>Buddhists don't matter in the West
>Zoroastrians were practically wiped out by Muslims until the 19th century
>Ancient Greeks are gone

That leaves the Jews as the only ones who perpetuated the "We must use Common Era" ideal... Huh, and in the modern age, would you say the majority of intellectuals and media icons are Jewish?

>>51583842
You shouldn't be teaching children any subject as they should be learned at an older age. Children shouldn't be taught history the same way adults are, but now you're an adult. You don't need to be talked down to, you can be told that no, Jesus wasn't born in 1 AD.

>>51583622
I know a resource for playing child characters

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>>51581714

Does the age effect of the Choker of Bodily Alteration mean virtually nothing for long-lived races?

>>51583921
Don't do it.

>>51583759
Don't forget the leftists who get [TRIGGERED] by the acknowledgement that Judeo-Christian culture and Western culture are pretty much synonymous.

>>51583884
>Few and far between. Isn't Japan mostly atheist now?

The answer to that is confusing, because Shintoism isn't so much a religion as it is an intrinsic aspect of Japanese culture.

The vast majority of Japanese people don't actually believe in the pantheon, they do however pay lip service to the services, holidays and beliefs of the religion.

>>51583916
>Jesus wasn't born in 1 AD.

Then why is 1 CE the same as 1 AD?

>>51583935
So still few and far between?

>>51583846
Thomas Midgley Jr was a chemical scientist known for two major developments. The first was popularizing leaded (Tetraethyl Lead) gasoline in the United States. Leaded gasoline increases atmospheric lead, and increases in atmospheric lead lead to increases in crime and a decrease in IQ among children. He made the United States more criminal and less intelligent.

His second development was Freon. Freon is a refrigerant, and was the first Chlorofluorocarbon, a group of chemicals that are incredibly harmful to the ozone layer. You may have heard of the big hole that it used to have in it. That causes cancer.

That is the legacy of Thomas Midgley Jr.

>>51583928
As written, yes.
As intended, I'd say shift the numbers around to match proper percentages.

>>51583928

That is a question you should ask the forums!

>>51583935
>not knowing the history of mediterranean Muslim influences and how northern Europe for a long time was heavily pagan
>not knowing about the influence of the middle east and asia via Byzantine trading routes
>not knowing about about the cultural and academic effects of the crusader kingdoms

Try again.

>>51583963
So he's why I'm working retail instead of being an engineer?

Fuck that old nigga then.

>>51583955
Because CE is a generic term, saying "This is the vague common era, we're just using the old numbers."
AD is a specific term, saying "This is the year Jesus was born."

>>51583963

Ooh, I remember Midgley.

He's called the "single most destructive organism in the history of Earth" yeah?

>>51583963
Didn't he accidentally kill himself with a homemade limb suspension apparatus after getting into a car accident or something?

Are we really not going to talk about the fact that mesmerist pimps can corner the entire fetish market?

The choker does only a fraction of what they do.

>>51583990

And if you actually think AD is a specific term in [Current Year] than you are either a fool or a person who is seriously obsessed with shit that doesn't actually matter.

Like seriously, this is me getting upset at British hospitals insisting you no longer refer to pregnant women as "expectant mothers" and you should call them "pregnant individuals" because men can get pregnant too.

Unsurprising CE was popularized by Jewish people, honestly.

>>51584002
Hush, child. We're vaguely /pol/ posting about those sneaky heebs and their efforts to undermine the noble whiteman with their secular notation of time.

>>51583684
If you want to take out the religious connotations then maybe not use that dating scheme entirely? Use Holocene time or something? You're just renaming the Gregorian calendar without changin it.

Can we argue less about religion and talk more about 22 year old wearing that choker to look like 12 year olds (and vice versa)? Also, perfumes made from fey sweat.

>>51583908
For one thing, resurrection was standard in those days.

You didn't even remotely qualify as being able to claim you're even half-divine if you can't at LEAST come back to life.

And yeah, Jesus was basically a retelling of Mithras but without the hot whitemage catgirls.

>>51583746
His birth is 7 BC from what we can tell.

>>51583984
Yup. Tetraethyl Lead didn't start being phased out until 1975, and that shit sticks around for a while.
>>51583991
>>51583996
Yes and yes. Fucker couldn't even avoid killing himself with his inventions.

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>>51584002
Well of course Mesmerists get all the fetishy powers. This was always going to happen.

>>51584026
Honestly 22 to 12 is a lot more sanitized than 12 to 22, but I'd probably cut off your drinks if you tried to play either.

>>51584002
I love it, I can now just make a simple stat block and use it for every pimp I ever need.
>>51584026
You know you want to start slipping that perfume to your groups fighter and watch them wonder why they start getting more and more feminine.

>>51584022
>And if you actually think AD is a specific term in [Current Year]
>etymology isn't a thing because reasons
AD means "Year of out Lord" that's it. Some people use CE others AD and your most liekly to find CE in formal shit. That's it.

You're the one flipping out about people pointing out AD had religious roots because you hate those goddamn Jews so much.

>>51583963
>Lead gas
>CFCs
Holy fuck.

>>51584069
>start slipping that perfume to your groups fighter and watch them wonder why they start getting more and more feminine.

Unless the Fae in question was a Satyr, in which case the Witch and Sorceress of the party is going to get mighty excited.

>>51584055
>literally 2 colors
>still covered in noise
I want to talk very loudly to whoever made this

>>51583860
>not using superior psi to kPa

>>51584022
You can use AD if you want to, but
1) I'm going to keep using CE, along with many other people.
2) AD is historically inaccurate.

>>51584096
>2) AD is historically inaccurate.

CE is inaccurate too.

>>51584022
Also, for posterity sake. Are you a /pfg/ goer or just some anon that wandered into the thread?

>>51583908
>birth
Virgin births left and fucking right anon, especially since an immaculate birth didn't even necessarily mean she was a literal virgin

>life
What about his life?

>resurrection
Literally everyone was coming back to life in Middle Eastern stories those days. Hell it even happened to the Greeks.

Don't even get me started on Judaism vs. Zoroastrianism.
>Judaism predates Zoroastrianism --
No it doesn't, not in its modern form. Many of the key components of the religion were lifted wholesale after the Levant got fucking sacked and they fled to Persia.

>>51584109
No, because CE doesn't refer to a specific event.

>>51584077
>You're the one flipping out about people pointing out AD had religious roots because you hate those goddamn Jews so much.

I'm flipping out because people pointed out AD had religious roots and then promptly declared "that won't do, we need to change it! Change it! CHANGE IT!"

>>51584039
>whitemage catgirls

Explain this.

>>51584109
No, CE is a defined term. Common Era is literally the "common calendar era". If people still used the Roman calendar then 1 CE would be the same as our 700+ BCE.
CE literally can't be wrong.

>>51584114

I'm a /pfg/ goer, why?

>>51584026
How about we talk about the bordello madam who uses the choker to look like one of her young girls whilst having her experience and knowledge about how to please her clients instead?

>>51584131
Why are you flipping out? And no you're not on the defense here, you flipped the fuck out right here >>51583720, when someone didn't use AD in his dates and someone asked about what CE was.

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>>51584138
>>51584126

>We must erase our filthy Euro-centric view of history by embracing the Common Era over Anno Domini
>But we're still going to base the Common Era around Anno Domini

Are you suggesting the Roman calender isn't more valid? Or the Indian calender? Or Incan? or Chinese?

God, the Chinese are probaly more valid than any of us.