Could a peasant work as a BBEG? How would he work?

A plague hits, a wealthier peasant uses the breakdown of local authorities to establish his own local militia, providing weapons to whoever wants to side with him. Eventually he starts extorting nearby plague-stricken towns for supplies and relief, charging absurd tolls on anyone who goes there to help, effectively running a chunk of the countryside.

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>>51573356
Dennis Dirtfarmer finally had enough of noble rule! He starts a rebellion and seeks to overthrow the king and install a system where supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses

>>51573356
Makes the PCs animals.

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>>51573420
He said "peasant".

Evil crops

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>>51573356
The Party is a bunch of Level 1 Commoners.
The Peasant has the ability to control rats.

>>51573356
>could the lowest man on the totem pole work as the final boss and mastermind?
This is stupid, and you're stupid for asking.

>>51573445
A rich villein is basically one lucky break or act of royal buttkissing away from getting knighted in most of the medieval period.

>>51573456
You didn't say "rich villein", you said "peasant".

>>51573466
A rich villein is still a peasant (and I'm not OP)

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>>51573356
Actually, a peasant becomes villainous when it stops working.

>>51573470
Except that a peasant is by definition poor, faggot.

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>>51573476
Look at this fag. Does he even history of Russia?

>>51573356
The PCs are rats.

>>51573476

Black Plague was a hell of a thing, bro.

>>51573356
Balor with 20 Commoner levels

>>51573476
a peasant is by definition 'not an aristocrat', unless you're a lord, knight or member of a royal family you're a peasant regardless of how much money you have

>>51573396
I want to support Dennis! Where do I sign up?
Can't wait 'til I get to loot a manor and rape some cute nobles!

>>51573356
he monopolizes potato trade

>>51573476
Go read the definition of peasant, dumb ignorant faggot.

>>51573556
>.peas·ant
>ˈpez(ə)nt/
>noun
>a poor farmer of low social status who owns or rents a small piece of land for cultivation (chiefly in historical use or with reference to subsistence farming in poorer countries).

>>51573356
>"BBEG"

Ugh.

>>51573570
The peasant as being definitionally poor is a modern thing. The men at arms of late medieval armies were generally just a hair poorer than the knights they served under and they were peasants. The only commoners who were not peasants were urban populations.

>>51573583
>The peasant as being definitionally poor is a modern thing.
And guess what time period it is now, faggot?

>>51573575
Yes, I too hate short and simple useful terms that everyone recognizes.

>>51573517
a peasant is a pre-industrial farmer who usually worked a nobles land and could rarely own it. Anyone of the merchant class was not by any definition a peasant

A wind from the East brings strange seeds into a peasant's field, which quickly grow into thick weed and strangle the crops. Unable to pay his liege in time, the peasant is flogged and his possessions are seized to pay his tithe. In fury, he burns his field down, only to notice that the ash from the strange weed brought his scarecrow to life.

Slowly, a plan begins to gestate in his mind. He sells all of his remaining possessions, buys materials and makes a small army of scarecrows, which he brings to life with magic ash. At the head of his army he storms his liege's castle, takes it and slaughters the greedy lord. Although his vengeance has been exacted, the peasant is drunk with easy success. He now plans to crush the rest of the nobles of his land in a similar fashion.

Seduced by his promises of tithe abolishment, the peasants of the neighbouring villages take up their farming tools and join his army as volunteers. But while he poses as people's champion, his only true motivation is greed. He seizes the fields of those who refuse to join him, plants them with magic weed and enslaves their owners, forcing them to tend to their former fields under the watchful gaze of scarecrow overseers.

A combination of ruthlessness and deceit eventually allows him to depose all the nobles in his realm, take the royal castle and exile the king. Although he's now one of the world's richest people, he continues wearing his peasant attire and refuses to bathe in order to sustain his phoney image of a man of the people. Under his rule, forests are chopped down to make room for more magic weed plantations, leaving the local elven communities homeless. Secret experiments are going on in confiscated mansions of the nobility, breeding terrifying war beasts from cows and pigs.

Left with only a handful of gold he managed to grab from the treasury, the exiled king is now living incognito in the neighbouring realm, looking for mercenaries who would help him defeat the Dark Peasant.

>>51573607
Serf isn't the only kind of peasant there was. Villein is still a peasant and still mostly paid rents.

>>51573593
>"big bad evil guy"
>short
>simple
>useful
>everyone recognizes

Too bad it's none of those things, and it's one of the most commonly misunderstood acronyms pushed on this site. Hell, many people don't even know what it stands for.

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>>51573429
>In the French translation Napoleon is called César because it's still illegal to name your pig Napoléon in France

>>51573629
My point about merchants still applies. Not a noble and not a pissant, so no, not every one but the highest ups was a peasant

>>51573356
Like, someone who is a currently peasant? The only way I can see that working is if the PCs are something somehow even less powerful, like maybe other peasants. That does not prevent peasants from being villainous, of course (no pun intended). They can serve that role quite ably (see The Hidden Fortress, among others, or certain of The Cadfael Chronicles), and a BBEG could certainly have a background as a peasant or pose as one, but I can't see how to have an actual current peasant as a proper BBEG.

>>51573420
This is an excellent solution. You could easily have a feudal Mr. McGregor in like Bunnies and Burrows or something.

>>51573

This isn't a description of a peasant. This is pretty much a description of any noble in the Middle Ages.

>>51573618
8/10 Would play.

>>51573583
>The only commoners who were not peasants were urban populations.

Yeah, and they were almost always the wealthy commoners.

Peasants are badass. Don't mess with them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7zoZe-ZATs

>>51573662
meant to quote

>>51573388

>>51573635
Oh please you're smarter than this. You know people on here rarely ever type it out as anything other than the acronym. You also know that meaning of words can change to suit the community that uses them.

You're just being anal about the usage of BBEG for no reason other than to be anal about it. Take a nap.

Jack Cade, Wat Tyler, the German Peasants' War, the Carinthian Peasant Revolt, the Friulain Revolt, the Ivaylo Uprising, etc., etc. Fail your history roll OP?

Remember, the BBEG is evil in the point of view of the people who've hired the players. While Wat Tyler and his armed mob may be rebelling against a corrupt nobility and church, that really didn't matter to all the villages they attacked, looted, & burned on their way to London or all the people they robbed, killed, and raped.

>>51573692
This is also something that literally happened during some plagues with actual wealthy peasants carving themselves estates out of the ruins and sometimes even getting away with it for long enough that their family was considered noble a few centuries down the line.

>>51573473
underrated post.

>>51573356
>We are humans!

>>51573587
And what time period are games with peasants in them are set in, faggot?

>>51573470
or more likely a lesser gentleman than the knight.

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>>51573694
You should be smarter than to try and defend "big bad evil guy" by calling it short, simple, or useful.

Heck, trying to defend it at all is ridiculous.

>>51573356
Had we not earned the right to the earth that we plow? Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?
"No," says the man in the castle, "it belongs to me." "No," says the man in the church, "it belongs to God."
I rejected those answers; instead, I chose to run those people through with pitchforks and take what is rightfully mine! On the ashes of feudalism we'll build a free market society! Who's with me?

Yes, he can be one of the village elders who was educated in law by the church as a way to better manage his bit of land.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTWsUvT8nsw

A charasmatic peasant rabble rouser is stoking the flames of rebellions against a fair and just lord, on behalf of a cabal of power hungry wizards.

>>51573850
Enlists the aid of local religious officials to enact his reign of terror? I like it.

A band of adventurers screwed up an evil ritual by cultists who tried to resurrect an ancient dark lord, and as a result the dark lord was reborn as a poor peasant.

>>51573356
The master breeder behind Attack of the Killer Tomatoes

>>51573356

Not really, mostly because RPGs have PCs who are uniquely powerful. Sure, you could have a peasant revolt or a rabble-rouser, but unless he has a lot of class levels (In which case he's probably a pawn of dark powers) he'll die fairly easily.

>>51573635
Making up abbreviations for everything is a part of American culture. Deal with it or GTFO.

>>51574075
Who said the main antagonist also needs to be the final boss? Or that there needs to be a final boss at all?

>>51574087

Does it matter? He's a target and he's going to die anyway. Why quibble?

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>>51574096
Because final battle is not a necessary element of a campaign. And if you insist on having one, sometimes it feels incredibly satisfying to squash the bastard who's been giving you so much trouble in one hit.

>>51573356
There's a war going on, and the heroes' homeland suffers greatly, the enemy conquered half of the country, all the important cities are lost, there is barely any hope now. And yet, there are rumors about a prophecy, that a young peasant maiden will lead the army and reclaim the lost lands. Soon such a maiden appears indeed, she says that she hears voices of the gods that tell her what to do. She appears before the army, raises their morale and bravely leads them into battle, capturing an important fortress. Now more and more troops join her as she captures town after town. However, she's actually a witch, and although she will successfully drive the conquerors out, the king will become her mind controlled puppet, and she will slowly turn the country into a totalitarian state ruled by a cult of an eldritch god she worships. The PC's must stop her, but it's quite a hard task, as everyone around believes that she's the hero and the deliverer. They can try associating with the enemy, but that means they would betray their homeland. Finally, why should they even trust the old monk who told them the truth? They will probably first need to make sure he wasn't lying.

>>51574087
>doesn't know what a BBEG is

Why are you even in this thread?

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>>51574316

>>51574284
I need to make a group of Frenchmen play this campaign.

>>51573575
Do you complain about "FLGS" too?

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>>51573356

>>51573356
Idiot god peasant?

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>>51573356
Disciples II was such a cool game

>>51574754
What is that, Ye Olde Sniktbub?

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No, never.

>>51573443
Or they have a pet cat

>>51573396
>install a system where supreme executive power derives from a mandate from the masses
Madness! And clear mark of chaos mind rot too!

>>51574769
Pegasus Knight.

A warrior-type Empire hero.

>>51573356
>Could a peasant work as a BBEG? How would he work?

I remember this happened in Dark Sun campaign somebody had. You see in 1st edition Dark Sun everyone rolled for random psionic talents and if you were really luck and kept rolling 99 on the tables you would eventuall get to very rare and powerful talents.
IIRC the campaign focused on a peasant who rolled psionic time travel

>can a peasant be the BBEG

Sure, if they're smart and charismatic. If they have those two things, they can achieve a lot.

I mean, weren't Hitler and Stalin essentially peasant BBEGs? Especially Uncle Joe.

>>51575106
> Hitler
> Stalin
> Peasants
No.

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>>51574961
Seriously, i don't recall even one disciples1-2 unit which looked like shit. Art-direction is a top notch here.
Even the peasant in the OP picture looks like someone who kicks goblin's asses everyday.

>>51575255
Indeed. The art-style was top notch, the atmosphere was dark fantasy of the most fun type.

Pity it all went down the drain with Disciples 3.

Also pity they did not use the animesque (though it looks like a toned-down version of Battle Chasers...dunno how to call the art in Disciples 2) unit profiles in the game.

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Grigori Rasputin
The man who starts as drunken lazy peasant with bad reputation. Then he got interested with occultism, folk magic and religion and finally became the most important figure in the country.
and that's only real life
if you take your typical medival-inspired fantasy setting and add to character black magic, demons,undeads and some power from dark gods/chaos or something like that then you have manipulative influental powerful and dangerous BBEG material.

>>51575106
Hitler was an artist and Stalin was a priest. Neither would be considered peasants in any culture or time period.

>>51575255
>Even the peasant in the OP picture looks like someone who kicks goblin's asses everyday.

>Hey Fredrik, you get any mining done today?
>No, I told you, goblins are all over the mines. I spent the whole day kicking goblin's asses.
>OK well the lord says there are too many goblins around, so we gotta go form a militia to fight the goblins.
>Wh-
>Yeah we gotta march about 30 miles to his castle so he can give us instructions to fight the goblins then come back here and kick them off the mines
>But-
>We leave in 30 minutes
>I am so sick of this shit.

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>>51573356
Like this.

>>51573356
Maybe if the players are stray cats or something?

>>51575365
>The man who starts as drunken lazy peasant with bad reputation
Is that from some "130% true" book by Felix Yusupov? Because in reality he was a rich peasant with a large family and no bad reputation to speak of. The bad reputation came when he became the Empress' personal guru, and then again, it's unclear how deserved it was.

>>51574780
This nigga knows whats up

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>>51575317
>dunno how to call the art in Disciples 2
I call this style "Vampire Hunter D meets Berserk"

>>51573356
Snowpiercer.

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>>51575405
>And that's how Fredrik become the BBEG
>He's got sick of this shit

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>>51575494
I don't see much Berserk but D is certainly there

>>51575494
Thanks lad. You cleared this for me.

Still pity they didn't use that art in-game.

>>51575530
de Layle that fatass...

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>>51575530
That ugly traitor..

>>51573356
"NPCs of the world, Unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!"

>>51575562
Seriously? how about pretty much every sword, or the giant ugly demons, or the heroic constipated faces?

>>51574076
>respect my gay term

No.

>>51576372
STFU you SOB

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>>51573570
>peasant
>a member of a class of persons, as in Europe, Asia, and Latin America, who are small farmers or farm laborers of low social rank.

>>51574910

Or a cat farm, just breeding cats en masse.

And then they unleash feline hordes upon unsuspecting hamlets.

Eventually, sure, he'll be destroyed by his own creations, but how many hamlets must macbeth before that happens?

>>51577919
>cat farm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk7yqlTMvp8

>>51573635
soon ita goimg to be called
SBBEGYHTDTW and peole will still defend this...
BBEG is the most retarded acronyme ever

>>51578280
SBBEGYHTDTW is still faster to type than "chief antagonist". So yes. I defend it.

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>>51578280
>Congratulations, you're today's lucky winner!

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>>51573356
>Could a peasant work as a BBEG? How would he work?

Make him/her smart. Dangerously, paranoid smart. Like improbable world-genius levels, combined with a healthy respect for being beaten and taken advantage of. From there, let them seed justified ruin that gets out of control. The witch making pacts with Hell? The bloody-handed Baron? The enclave of drake spies feeding treasure and bodies to a hidden dragon? The sudden success of necromancers bringing back a Lich? The collapse of the mountain and trapping of a dwarf community from explosives? All foiled, done, prevented, salvaged.

All of it instigated in dirty dim-eyed silence by the Peasant. And you'd have to be paying very close attention to even trace and work back to the instigation. Better yet, they have no pact with Hell, no royal riches, no dragon might. They only have the seething hot hate, will, and intellect to use these things in proxy to destabilize the region.

Even better if it's all done simply to protect the life of some mundane shitty hamlet personal to them, and they've just been driven paranoid mad by one too many injustices.

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>>51578481

>>51578689
Even better if the Peasant is just quiet, kind, and hard working around the hamlet, only holding psychotic deathhate for everyone Outside. But maybe they grow to really like the PCs if they're good to the hamlet and resolve each crisis in an intelligent and reasonable manner, making the Peasant's job easier.

So by the finale, they can actually be thanking the PCs and asking for their full disclosure and alliance. Maybe they'll even say yes.

>>51578862
>Hey guys, guess what, I was actually the one who secretly brought that lich's phylactery here, and I also put dynamite into those caves and woke up the dragon who wiped half of your party, but it's okay because I like you now.

>>51573356
You could have someone like 'The Citizen' in the Mistborn series.

>>51573356
The drunk and lazy peasant was a demon prince in disguise all along who used his ruse to monitor the adventurers.

Level 20 peasant using his incredible Profession (Farming) skill to create an army of plant monsters for whatever nefarious purpose.

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>>51573356

I picture a peasant weeding his way through a crowd, inciting them to a mob with whispered accusations against their king before them, stepping away once the wheels are in motion. A peasant that discreetly applies several quests for the adventurer's guild for the players to take but always mysteriously vanishes when time comes to collect. A peasant that sets the inn the players are in on fire as he shouts that it was the guardsmen, probably in an attempt to seem a necessary evil. A peasant that, singlehandedly, has pushed circumstances into motion, nearly in plain sight, yet always unnoticed. After all, he's just a single peasant.

The very same peasant, of course, whom the players would have helped on their way to said city. He is but a peasant, and the beasts that assailed him would surely have killed him, if naught for the players' intervention. The same peasant, driven mad by grief, whose home was destroyed by the king's negligence in protecting the outlands from roaming bandits and marauders.

>>51573646
That's not accurate.
He is called Caesar in one of the French versions, but another has him called Napoleon.

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>>51573356
He joins a successful peasant rebellion.
After proving himself and gaining the trust of a local warlord, he eventually comes to lead his armies once he dies.

His terrible plans include becoming emperor and founding the most prosperous dinasty of China.

>>51573356
As the Lords of Chaos, psychopathic beings of godlike power, rage across the outer planes, the Keepers of Order search for the answer to stop them. By fulfilling an ancient prophecy, they call forth the antithesis to each Lord of Chaos. The perfect match to keep the insane gods in check. A Keeper of Order each assigned to a Lord of Chaos. However, there is a Lord, the Lord of Excess, a being of ultimate extravagance and superfluousness, who has no match...until now. The Prophesy calls for the most bland, boring, milk-toast individual to combat the Lord of Excess. That individual, is Dan. Suddenly, Peasant Dan is imbued with godlike power as the avatar mediocrity, and in his wake cozy farmlands and quiet communities are carefully placed into existence. Controlling masses of farm animals, tools and crops alike, Dan masters the mundane in ways mere mortals dare not challenge. Combating the outrageous is his goal, and as he is unable to reach the Lord of Excess, Dan will calmly march on anything too incredible for his world. If he is allowed to succeed, all of creation will succumb to his mediocrity.

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>>51586734
I hope this is how Slaanesh is destroyed in AoS

>>51574780
Not a peasant. A commoner. Different things. The former is the latter, but not necessarily vise versa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Kohlhaas

tl;dr poorfag gets fucked over by rich guy. rallies other poorfags to take revenge. eventually go from robin hood to loot/rape/burn the countryside

>>51573618
> best ripoff of wizards of Oz books/10
> Urfin Jews because no one here would recognize him
welp, he is one of the best antagonists in children's finction
Also, good taste, comrade

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer

A modern example. Working class lad was slighted by corrupt official, created a real life death machine and levelled half his hometown.

>>51573476
>Except that a peasant is by definition poor, faggot.

>>51573466
>You didn't say "rich villein", you said "peasant".

As someone who has run a lot of vampire dark ages I would like to say that different places have different ideas of who goes into what social class. In some places there was rural land owners who were rather rich but were still viewed as being part of the peasant class. In those places the dividing line was either blood right ( Poland is a good example) or title.

>>51573517
>a peasant is by definition 'not an aristocrat', unless you're a lord, knight or member of a royal family you're a peasant regardless of how much money you have

Or someone who fall into the jurisdiction of church courts like a priest,nun, monk, lay church employ, or student at a real school( criminals IRL would enroll at university's to get legal immunity from most charges). Or a resident of a township or city. Or someone who is not settled in a fixed place ( which was a thing). All of those types of people would end with a different set of law governing what they could and could not do.

You are mistaking peasant for the English term "commoner".

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Bag_of_Holding
Name him Sanders and have him flood the world with chickens.

>>51590076
Or name him Sanders and have him install a communist dictatorship

>>51590069
>In some places there was rural land owners who were rather rich but were still viewed as being part of the peasant class. In those places the dividing line was either blood right ( Poland is a good example) or title.
The other way around in Switzerland. Nobility was a purely decorative institution without any practical significance, while a person's social rank was determined entirely by wealth. Hell, there were nobles who ran cart repair shops.

A) Some peasant got lucky (I.e. worshipped the right evil god while it was weak) and became head of evil organization/empire while still having peasant's tastes and smarts.
B) Really low level game. Like beyond the wall where PCs are peasant children. And guy from another village (evil mastermind) who conspired with Goblin (final boss to fight) to steal chicken from your village is a viable bad guy.

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There's a Batman villain who's a farmer using mutated farm animals to rob banks.

The patriarch of a huge hillbilly clan who fathered over thirty kids and extends absolute authority over his entire extended family of inbred freaks. Scanty harvest, caused in no small part by negligence, drove his clan to starvation. He orders to butcher and cook those members of the family who're useless in farming anyway, being mentally or physically handicapped. Unfortunately, they like the taste of human flesh so much that they start kidnapping travellers and people from nearby villages. There are folks who connect the streak of mysterious disappearances with the hillbilly clan, but there's no one with balls large enough to mess with them. Until a group of adventurers passes by.

The current culture war incited by the SJW is very much a peasant uprising, since none of them have a background of self-earned high social standing

>>51590846
It's more like the actual modern peasants (farmers and rural folks in general) are rebelling against the system which systematically ignores them and vilifies their values.

>>51573356
Make him expert at partisan warfare and trap making.

>>51590016
>tfw nobody does this shit anymore
>tfw that people who lose all their lifehood because of corrupt official prefer to kill themselves than the evildoer
Why people are such pussies?

>>51591205
because our corrupt officials have a personal army in the form of a police force that uses war gear against the people it is supposed to protect

Anyone who thinks that a peasant can't be an evil mastermind has never been to Devon. People used to be murdered and driven to suicide over land disputes here.

>>51573356
I know that concept art and its game

>>51592105
Yes, it's Otis McFackit's Xtreme Plough Pro 2017: GOTYE

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>>51573456
>getting knighted
That's a step down.

>>51573356
The peasant worships Grandfather Nurgle and wanders aimlessly throughout the world leaving behind a trail of plague and misery. He has no special powers aside from being exceptionally pitiable and ridden with every disease imaginable. The PCs must hunt him down while still dealing with the chaos he leaves in his wake.

>>51595019
There's actually a peasant who became a Daemon Prince of Nurgle.

>Bubonicus, originally the sole member of his village to survive a plague thanks to his prayers to Nurgle, who led a horde of beastmen and cultists out of the forests of the Old World and into the Chaos Wastes, where after many years of hardship and struggle they reached the Glades of Nurgle, where Nurgle rewarded Lothar's faith with daemonic ascension.

>>51590865
/Pol/ go home

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>>51574075
>All rpgs require PCs to be powerful
>all RPGs have classes
>all RPGs have levels

>>51596248
I didn't start this. But I will finish this.

>>51597710
What values do they have that are deing vilified