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Pathfinder General /pfg/

What is your favorite class to do a Pokemon trainer with?

>HELPFUL TIP: If you want to ask for advice or information on a build or character, explain what sources (1st- and 3rd-party) are allowed and if you already have a theme or concept in mind.

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW

Avowed Playtest 1:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Avowed Playtest 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rV7kaF9JL2gw9xQalkEnlEDL9WXtbsaCqNABm_pLIgc/edit?usp=sharing

Spheres of Might previews:
Part 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aLaYQEFAWU4zQBx58boJPPaySLgJc0Emmw9eKyIJeGI/
Part 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pyLq03W2ju58PcKOUq5YXoFowf_weBNzuWtjCMdINXk/edit
Part 3: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-LAt9Ti5pcnvHY4KnFRuItCjqtGM-YJC5r_0zXiKKUk/edit

Old Thread: >>51560194
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https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo

Why haven't you signed up yet? Apps are closing soon!
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The last thread was a lot of talk about lesbian goddesses in dom/sub relationships, so can we all agree to cut that out of this one completely?
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>>51564877
Because I am a gurofag and I would ruin the fluffy comfy vibe!
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>>51564877
Because I'm in too many games and also I'm a bit put off by the need for players to fill character roles rather than class roles. But, I ain't attacking you, it's an interesting way to do things.
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>>51564877
Because I would make a a kitsune with coarse, greasy and matted fur who just wants to punch things. Also because even my degeneracy has limits.
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>>51564891

NEVER!
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>>51564877
Because I already have a game I'm in.

>>51564891
Fine by me, let's talk about Chromatic Dragons.
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>>51564918
Which color dragon do you think is a top or a bottom- DAMNIT
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>>51564915
The game doesn't interest me but even as laid out in the description that's a completely playable character. A big question would be *why* this kind of character was chosen as one of the city's rulers - do they need someone violent? Is there going to be a war? How would it affect the power blocs and groups in the city? You might get a fashion trend for uniforms and young gangs going about beating each other up in mock wars.

That probably doesn't exactly fit with what the other players would be looking for - and like I say I don't think I'd apply for this game - but the hook as presented as perfectly solid.
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>>51564891
>>51564891
Certainly.

So Urgathoans are big on necrophilia, right? What are some creative ideas for an Urgathoan sex party? I want to impress my players with the sheer depravity of it all.
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>>51564918
Aquatic dragons are the most terrifying for players to fight.
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>>51564934
Blues bottom because they're total bitches.

Whites top because they're savage brutes and rapists.
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>>51564969
Underwater rules are terrifiyng
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>>51564964
Mohrgs. Any number of other parasites. Undead falling to pieces and using their detachable parts creatively. Lots of "This scene is so dead" and "Don't be so cold" jokes.

>>51564918
How many dragon hearts do you have to eat before you start getting a cool template or prestige class?
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>>51564915

>Coarse, greasy, and matted fur
>Just wants to punch things
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>>51564877
Too busy with life and my two different games

Plus, fluffy tails aren't my style, and I don't like Text Only
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>>51564954
I'm totally imagining a rough, tough punchy old scarred fox being followed around by dozens of ganger-dressed groupies.

The end result being more "Solid Snake Visits Shibuya" than anything.
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>Carry a veritable arsenal on my character
>Different combinations of materials and enhancement effects to counter most plausible threats one could come across
>Pick a level in brawler so I could fight without weapons and so I get to adjust my build with a single feat to change my role from AoE to tank to pure DPS on the fly
>End up loving the ability to pick and choose feats on the fly and being able to deal loads of damage with punches
>End up juggling feats and weapons mid fight just for variation, but end up always simply beating people with fists for the mental image of a giant man pummeling wizards
>Must wait for yet another campaign to play a brawler
>Already too many games

This is torment
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Rolled 1 (1d4)

>>51564964
1) Orgy is the marriage celebration between two Urgathoan priests (one living, one dead - each one half stitched together magically) and a Corpsespinner. Guests and participants are a mix of living, undead, victims and corpsespun creatures.

2) Sex party takes place in the intestinal remains of a dead sphinx on an ancient battlefield. The dead buried there have been resurrected as party servants, and the central activity is a drinking game using various drinks, drugs and toxic substances mixed with the Sphinx's gastric fluids. Forfeits generally involve the risen corpses in some way.

3) A traitorous family of vampires who've betrayed the Urgathoan cult are being delicately unraveled and molested in the middle of the temple. The floor is slick with blood and groups of flirty, frisky cultists are competing with each other to see how far they can stretch the physical remains of each vampire.

4) The jeweled lich Pravus Pravum (actually dozens of separate liches each bound to a single bone in a levitating partial human skeleton) has split itself up to possess all the inhabitants of a nearby village, who are now amusingly competing against each other in war, sex and disease curse games.
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>>51564850
Why are Chen and Rumia wearing high heels?
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>>51565103
>veteran kitsune who's too old for this shit inadvertently creates bancho culture
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>>51565046
Oh, Mohrgs have those tongues too. That is delicious.
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>>51565136
Even better if he's the only one that actually punches things ever, and the rest just have competitive dance-offs/rap battles/etc.
>Incredibly complicated and choreographed dance battle starts up, people flipping around, making kitsune towers to posture with, shifting between forms midair for jaw-dropping acrobatics
>Old guy at the front is practically touching the inside back of his own skull
>Suddenly, a cry is heard
>"Dammit, Konoko, you BIT me!"
>"It was an accident!"
>"Ugh!"
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Anyone heard from Sleeping Goddess GM?
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>>51565301
They gonna flaaaake
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>>51565117
I love these, especially three. My players will definitely regret this session
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>>51565324

Anon, you're making me sad...
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>>51565338
Please don't senpai.
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>>51565376
Nope, when you agree to cozy up to and do murderous favors for an eccentric noblewoman who throws parties that are to die for, you're absolutely asking for it
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>>51565358
I only just realized now my second app is a full caster and that's against the rules anyway. At this point I'm not gonna be disappointed if it doesn't happen.
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What's a good set-up for a Come to Iomedae intervention with a lapsed comrade? I'm thinking Zone of Truth, Maximum Southern Preacher voice, and maybe some trumpets is a good start
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>>51564877
Already did ma'am!
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So my party's making me play the healer, but the problem is it's a very obnoxiously lawful good campaign in a world where literally the only valid god choices are good-aligned.

I hate playing good clerics. Advise me on a healer.
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>>51565732
Why do you need an intervention in the first place? As long as your comrade in arms is laying waste to the demonic menace and not to the forces defending this world, everything is fine.
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>>51566311
Be an Oracle, or a LN Cleric of a good Deity. Or an Alchemist
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>>51566311
See if you can get away with a Cleric of /innawoods/

forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Fenmarel_Mestarine
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Is there a way I can make a character who is good with a gun AND a sword? I was thinking of playing a character who uses a pistol and sword. Chargen is lvl 3 but if I can't make it work at chargen that's fine.
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>>51566416
Privateer class template if you are allowed to use path of war. Otherwise I'm not so sure.
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>>51566332
He's losing his cool and having emotional issues. He's gotta see the light
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>>51566416
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/sword-and-pistol-combat
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>>51566449
What kind of emotional issues? Is it endangering anyone or just making him slightly more annoying?
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>>51566311
Psychic with the Faith Discipline. Choose a NG god and be TN.
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>>51566311
Play a Oradin. Life Oracle 3, Paladin X, Life Link, Channel Energy, Fey Foundling. You don't even need a deity.
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>>51566416
Problem with gunswording is that neither guns nor swords count as light weapons for Two Weapon Fighting, so you're eating a -4 penalty even after feats
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>>51566447
You sure that's the name? I can't find it on the SRD which I thought included third party content
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>>51566521
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/path-of-war/classes/martial-class-templates/privateer-template
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>>51566471
He's blacking out in a murderous rage, obsessing over a party member who resembles his raped-and-burned dead mother, and indulging in dangerously heretical pessimism.
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>>51566341
The only good deity that would accept a neutral follower here is the god of holy light, morning, and holy fire, which is absurdly generic and literal torment.

>>51566509
See above

>>51566510
Still have to be lawful good.
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>>51566311
Be a vitalist. Be a secular humanist. Attempt to reach physical perfection without the cheaty help of deities.
Alternately, alchemist, same. Alternately alternately, godless heathen druid.
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>>51566562
Why not just channel the murderous rage against the demons?

Also, pessimism isn't really that much of a problem - it's to be expected of those suffering through the Hell of war with only their own willpower to guard their minds.

Finally, the party member thing is something those two will have to work out between themselves.

As long as he hasn't turned traitor, everything is fine. The more weapons you have against the demons that threaten our world, the better.
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>>51566520
Couldn't you use a pistol in your main and light weapon in your off hand?
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>>51566563
And there are no CG gods available? What about going LN?
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>>51566590
>they didn't 'respect' the 'earth'

I'm pretty sure they were the ones being disrespected, pal. By a giant space rock.
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>>51566616
Yes, if you used a shortsword, but i suspect when they said 'sword' they meant something more like a cutlass or at least a longsword
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Dear Sleeping Goddess GM:

Please, give us an update. Even if it's to tell us you won't be running it anymore. Any update at all.
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>>51566772

I'm not running it anymore.
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>>51566772
CUTEPOSTERS BTFO
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>>51566772
I'm a giant pussy.
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>>51566783

It's okay.

Can you please post it on the roll20 for sleeping goddess for us? You don't need to even give explanation if you don't want.
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>>51566632
I'm pretty sure that character is an insane paleontologist that got the power to turn people into dinosaurs from a magical chunk of jesus, so asking them to explain further is both dangerous and possibly pointless.

>>51566563
Then spice up the religion, not the deity. His order brings light in myriad ways, from maintaining libraries, to discovering political corruption, to sleeping with the lights on.
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>>51566828
I mean, true.
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>>51566772
Flakes never say they won't. They don't want to have to admit it. They just disappear and tell themselves they were the better man.
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>>51566866
>Dr. Ferdinand is a geologist and a paleontologist with a very flamboyant personality. For him, the most important thing in the world is respect: he has himself a great respect of the planet, to the point he'd get senselessly furious should he see somebody spitting on the ground or littering. He's convinced that Earth brings prosperity only to those who respect the soil and has come to believe that dinosaurs, the once undisputed rulers of the world, died because their small brains couldn't understand this basic ideal.
Psychotic theme druid, definitely.
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>>51560382
If you're still around, the Church Hunter has it listed that it gains Knowledge (Religion) as a class skill, but the base Bloodborne Hunter class has Knowledge (Religion) as a class skill already.

Did you mean to pick Knowledge (Planes) for Church Hunter?
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>>51566311
Kineticist 1/ w/e else you want to play. Your party can have infinite healing 1d6+2 at a time if the want to pinhole you into a role while you do your thing. Only those that survive the fight get healing but they're back at max when they do.
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So I'm getting up in levels with my wiz, and I'm wondering if it's possible to make crafting assistants like the Homs or these little guys. Is that possible? From what I can tell with a standard homunculus it's a ugly little demon that can do very little. Maybe a type or construct would be better?
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>>51567052
Kinetic healer is a 1-burn utility. you can't gather power for that.
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>>51567072
I mean, not just for looks sake. Like making them so they could actually help with crafting stuff.
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>>51567075
...every time I hear more about this class I'm more disappointed and add to the list of shit to fix if I get to play it.
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>>51567105
with the right 3pp support it's excellent. Additionally a common house rule is to allow stamina before you begin to eat into your burn. That can allow you to put the utilities including healing to MUCH better use, while them still being limited per encounter effectively.
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>>51566602
But Iomedae's doctrine demands optimism. Her entire faith is one that revolves around the idea that a person doing the right thing can make a difference. Her Acts are significant BECAUSE she was not a divinity when she performed them. Pessimism is a dark but subtle heresy to her Ways.
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>>51567140
and so is asking too many questions or doubting or NOT doubting, what's your point?
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>>51567075
>>51567105
If 3rd party is allowed
One of the KoP or Legendary Kineticists archetypes focuses of having burn reducing abilities Only work on utility and defensive talents, meaning "Infusion Specialization" and Gather Power would work with Kinetic Healing, at the cost of basically giving up the offensive aspect of Kineticist.
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>>51567157
Subtle heresy by a Paladin can't be tolerated!
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>>51567183
Not archetypes.
Utilitarian Mutation, an "alternative class feature" type effect.

Allows you to once a minute spend a full round action to gather power, allowing you to use a utility at -1 burn cost in the next turn.

Just 1/min though, and the cost is immense:
No more burn-cost reduction to kinetic blasts whatsoever, AND kinetic blast cost reduced one step.
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What is the best way to build a fightan man in PF? I love heavy armor, heavy weapons and front lining even if it is suboptimal, I still want to be the best possible.
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>>51567353
Paladin, son
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>>51567363

Straight paladin? What if I dont want to be LG?
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>>51567353
Fighter's better than it was before.
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>>51567385
There are ways of getting around it. If you don't want to be LG, Fighter. AWT and AAT are some nice stuff.
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>>51567353
What do you have available? 1pp only? Any 3pp?
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>>51567385
Then you have bad taste.
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>>51567407
>>51567415

Well that is a good thing to hear. I will have to look for those.

>>51567419

1pp unfortunately. I would love to build an ZS warder for him but alas.

>>51567446

I would rather not spend the campaign worrying about when my GM is going to fiat my fall.
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Are Samsarans cute?
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>>51567534
Yea, as bizarre as it sounds, fighter is unironically what you'll probably be wanting. If you're up for some bullshitting via AWT, it's possibly to become a pseudocaster based off CON now as well, though it's a little outside the scope of "I want to be big boy big poise"
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>>51567534
>I would rather not spend the campaign worrying about when my GM is going to fiat my fall.

Then you need to find a non-shit GM.
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>>51567353
>>51567534
have you checked out the witchgaurd? not a "Fighter", but you could dip into feats for smash from air and become the ultimate bodygaurd front liner.
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>>51567577
Is it 2hu shilling samsarans all of a sudden?
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>Ifrit blaster sorc
>was originally just a regular ol' human until he found a bottle of ashes at the bottom of a well
>the ashes were from a phoenix, and the magic bottle was designed to prevent her resurrection
>she's been stuck in there so long she can't resurrect properly in her own body, but the phoenix's soul is still very much alive in there
>she makes a deal with her discoverer - in exchange for access to her power in life, she possesses his body, may or may not influence his thought processes a little, and can begin resurrecting normally again upon his death
>"okay," he says, drinking the ashes thinking that's what he had to do for it to work
>they tasted terrible, by the way
>also it wasn't necessary at all

On a scale of "would not play with, too cringey" to "silly, but workable" to "acutally kinda cool" r8 this backstory.
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>>51567601
Witchguard? Where's that from?
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>>51567609
dont see a problem myself. you could dip into spiritualist if you want that dual mind to have mechanical relevance
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>>51567582

Beggars cannot be choosers

>>51567580

That is kinda cool. I wish people liked playing more low fantasy type games where fightan mans shined. It is cool that fighter is making a comeback.

>>51567601

I will have to check it out. I like witches for their hexes and control. Usually I play casters for that but I am looking to shake things up.
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>>51567611
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger/archetypes/paizo---ranger-archetypes/witchguard

take this, arcane strike, helpful (adopted) and get the gloves of arcane strike boosting shit and you will be well on your way to defending people, don't forget the weapon mastery smash from air.
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>>51567621
Sweet, thanks.
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>>51567605
No, I just want to know if the new character in our party is a total babe or not. Are Samsarans one of those babe races, or are they just blue humans?
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>>51567634
Beggars can and, in fact, should be choosers.
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>>51567580
AWT?
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>>51567637
You can't take Weapon Masteries unless you have the Weapon Training class feature, though?
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>>51567651
Advanced Weapon Training. Rather than get new weapon groups for Weapon Training, they can choose to pick from a list of neato abilities.
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>>51567644
They're blue humans that people pick solely to poach from the spell lists of other classes.
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>>51567644
Samsarans are one of those entirely superfluous races that are just 'humans but'

In this case they're 'humans but they reincarnate'
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>>51567730

It's incredible how much of a non-purpose the Samsaran serve in the setting.
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>>51567653
Theirsa feat in the weapon masters handbook that let's others pick it up, it has a bab requirement so it's obviously meant for full bab classes.

But because it's a feat to just get another feat, you don't hear people talk about it to much.
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>>51567757
Literally just "I want to poach spell lists" the race.

Seriously, why couldn't straight up reincarnation(not the goddamn druid spell) be a thing in setting? Why make a fucking race for it?
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>>51567072
>>51567095
I WANT TO MAKE A MAGIC SHOP! POSSIBLE YES/NO!?
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>>51567839
Yes. You can
1) Retire from adventuring and/or hire a helper to sell of extraneous magic loot
2) Use Downtime to buy a magic shop which generates capital for you autonomously.
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>>51567660
i never saw something in there that makes them psuedocasters...
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>>51567758
smash is worth it for a body gaurd build though.

>>51567788
it is, it's a trait, a shit one.
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>>51567962
Those are the Item Mastery feats.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/item-mastery-feats

The big thing is that one Advanced Weapon Training option is called Spiritual Weapon, which allows the fighter to basically act like a Magus to empower their weapon. Including the Training enchantment which can grab feats (which you'd use to get Advanced Weapon Training for the Item Mastery option) to semi-flexibly cast spells.
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>>51567977
> smash is worth for a bodyguard
I agree, but I was just saying it was a feat for a feat.

The best part is it helps fill more niche build ideas if you don't want to go full fighter or have a preferred archetype in mind.
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>>51568032
>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/item-mastery-feats
huh, okay thats pretty alright then. not bad.
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>>51568032
Don't you have to meet the prerequisites for Training's combat feat?

So you'd need to have taken the AWT feat one less time than you potentially could in order to meet the prerequisite for the feat from Training.
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>>51567865
Can I MAKE the shop assistants? Or is it a issue of making them intelligent?
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>>51568032
Oh man, the way I'm doing it is way more complex. AWT: Abundant Tactics, AWT: Warrior Spirit and Barroom Brawler, then Martial Flexibility whichever Item Mastery feat I want.

To be fair though, Training wasn't out when I wrote this build out, and this is actually the first I heard of it. I stopped paying attention to 1pp releases after the crushing disappointment of Occult Adventures
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>>51568178
Honestly, you could probably do that on top of the other one. It would just give you the chance to use it even more.
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>>51568178
Training is a pretty fucking great enchantment.

>Popular among those who seek to impersonate skilled warriors, a training weapon grants one combat feat to the wielder as long as the weapon is drawn and in hand. The feat is chosen when this special ability is placed on the weapon. That feat cannot be used as a prerequisite for any other feats and functions for the wielder only if she meets its prerequisites. Once chosen, the feat stored in the weapon cannot be changed.
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>>51568178
>>51568273
Also? It's a +1 enchantment.
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>tfw to intelligent to roleplay
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>>51568272
Oh shit that's a good point.

>>51568273
It seems pretty powerful, which is good! Powerful is good, PAIZO. Players like having more options available and not six new garbage-to-mediocre classes, rabble rabble rabble.
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>>51568326
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>>51567048
Thank you for pointing this out! The base hunter actually should now have Kn (Religion) as a class skill after further consideration, so that has been removed.
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>>51568138
dont think so, the feat can't be used as a prerequisite though.
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What's the best build, Eidolon wise, for a summoner if I want a tough hard hitting Monster Hunter-style super Lizard?

Haven't made one before, and the character is popping into existence around level 9
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>>51568570
Are you using Unchained? If so I don't think you can, at least not Brachydios.
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>tfw adopted a kitsune loli as my daughter today
So how was your sessions, everyone?
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>>51568625
1st: Daaw
2nd: I hope you're a long lifespan race otherwise you might die before she even reaches adulthood.
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>>51564877
because the Gm has already chosen their players, the rest of the time left is only there to crush any hopes anybody else ahs of joining.
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>>51568654
I'm a human, but she's already accepted that. She's used to everyone close to her dying anyway!
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>>51568625

Watched my character's adoptive father figure die.
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>>51568570
if you want a murder machine I'd go with mammoth rider and animal companion. if you use summoner you are basically forced to reflavoring and using many natural attacks, and limiting your magic items. start as a hunter then go mammoth lord
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>>51568625
>how was your sessions
It wasn't. One guy always has shit to do on game days so we have to skip another fucking week. My adhd can't stand this shit.
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>>51568570
Define "Hard Hitting". Sadly, AoE attacks aren't really something pathfinder does, and MH really functions on very granular area attacks.
Just making a combat monster is fairly easy, basket all your eggs with a bite or slam attack or make a charge/pounce monstrosity, or make a grapplebeast.

Now that you mention it, though, why isn't there a dragon shenanigans archetype for summoner? You'd think that would write itself. There's not even a dragon type shenanigan on unchained!
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Thinking about trying a wilder in my next game. I'd be the only dedicated caster in my party, and I know they don't get many powers known. Anything I should really focus on?
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>>51568625
>>51568654
She'll outlive you only if she's a youkai kitsune.
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>>51569102
I don't know if that's some third party thing, but my GM doesn't use any third party in his games.
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>>51568737
>>51568570
Hunter (Divine Hunter) -> Animal Companion (Allosaurus/Tyrannosaurus/Styracosaurus/Ankylosaurus) -> Mammoth Lord
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>>51569142
So she's an icky furry kitsune with a human lifespan?

Eurrrgh.
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>>51569142
In which case, she should reach adulthood within the next ten years. Kitsune age of adulthood is 16-ish according to Pathfinder rules.

In point of fact, you're far more likely to outlive her than vice versa.
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First game of the Pendragon Institute happened tonight. Went well, I think - bullies were fought, and the party got teleported to a labyrinth for their initiation. DM blinked first and subconsciously called the Youkai "Faunus".

Logs, if anyone wants to read them: http://pastebin.com/CZcb5VGV
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>>51569189
Actually, kitsune have the exact same lifespan as humans, what the fuck. I thought humans untrained started at 18+, but nope. My bad.
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>>51569237
Oh, cool.
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>>51569239
Nope, this is Fantasy World, your modern rules of adulthood have no sway here, even if other sensibilities do for some reason!

Bare minimum's 15!
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>>51569237
Wasn't this a Roll20 game?
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>>51569277
Technically you have to start at 16+ since the starting ages are all 1dX!!

Why does Pathfinder even have rules for this, this is 100% up to the player and the campaign.
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>>51569278
Yeah, we're running combat/OOC on Roll20 and IC/RP over IRC (an idea I got... last night pretty much, because segregating the IC and OOC chats in RotJR that way actually worked out really well).
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>>51569298
Then ignore the rule?
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>>51569298
Oh, it's 15+dice, I thought it was 14+dice. Oh well!

And I don't think it's meant to be a RULE, just an optional thing you can use if you don't care or just want to use it, or to give a general scope for typical ages. Like those random backstory generator things from Ultimate... Campaign?

S'just an option.
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>>51568625
First session RotJR Team 1 is happening now. About half the party got fleeced by shady merchants.
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>>51567072
Take a familiar and give it valet archetype and take craft wondrous and other shit then combo with cooperative crafting if you want.
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>>51568697

>I understood that reference
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>>51569168
Nope, she looks like your image but with black hair. I haven't found her exact token.
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>>51569505
I think what they're getting at is that standard Pathfinder kitsune are covered in fur and have fox faces.
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>>51569524
Yeah, but that's furfaggotry and we have a zero tolerance for that shit in my group.
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>>51569533
So you're saying you houseruled them to NOT be furbait? Did you perhaps make the Superior Shapeshifter ART a mandatory thing, or is it just "they are kemonomimi that can pretend to be human, fuck you"?
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>>51569555
The second one.
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>>51569565
>not making them be actual, literal animals instead of furbait
>on top of the human form

Well, no accounting for taste I guess. Your taste is still superior to the devs and Augunas, so good job.
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>>51569524
>>51569533
Pic related: that's a canon pathfinder kitsune.
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>>51569555

Most of the time I see Kitsune, Ratfolk, or Catfolk at a table it's generally assumed they are kemonomimi because that's preferable to sussing out who wants to play some beastly beastfolk and who's playing furbait. It does make the differences kinda meh, but on the other hand people tend to be way less WEIRD about "people with different ears and some extra stuff."
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>>51569596
I know.
>>51569598
Our group mostly prefers our various beast races to look like that because it's an excuse to play as anime girls. The exception is lizardfolk, lizards are badass.
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>>51569596
Jesus what a terrible piece of artwork
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>>51569598
Funnily enough, catfolk CANONICALLY CAN JUST BE HUMANS WITH ANIMAL EARS. But there's nothing to represent that, and a lot of paizotards bitch about any art that happens to go near that. Pic related got praised to high fucking heaven in the thread for BotB.

Kitsune of the "literal animal that turns into a human, with tells they have to hide" and "fuck it they're just kemonomimi" varieties are the only good ways to do the race. Other "beastfolk" races I can begrudgingly accept in other states, but would rather they be similar to what your group seems to do.
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>>51569598
Should I take my Musket Master Gunslinger to 11 for Signature Deed => Dead Shot crit fishing or just start multiclassing once I get Gun Training?
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>>51569669
Deadshot sucks, multiclass
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>>51569662
Would you accept lizardmen a la Warhammer Fantasy?
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>>51569669
derp, didn't mean to link to that post
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>>51569691
Lizardmen are cool, actually. They can stay.
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>>51569638
I thought it was a good bit of art.

And it's nice to see a kitsune outside of Augunas' shit-tastic artwork he always gets.
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>>51569662
That's because humans with cat ears are just that; humans with cat ears.
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>>51569533
Is Princess Pring furfaggotry?
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>>51569662
>CANONICALLY CAN JUST BE HUMANS WITH ANIMAL EARS
[citation needed]
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>>51569662
They don't actually get to 'actually just human with cat ears' level.

They can get down to having humanshaped faces, but they still have unusual skin patterns, cat-eyes, etc.
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>>51569765
That page you dingus.

Literally the image he posted.
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>>51569752
Princess Pring is ADORABLE, that's what she is!
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>>51569662
>>51569730
>>51569773
>human with cat ears
If I applied as a human girl with cat ears, would you accept the app?
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>>51569596
I can't tell if paizo exhibited a complete lack of self-awareness when they came up with kitsune, or perhaps TOO much self-awareness.

Generally speaking I'm okay with beast races, but among the animals that you don't ever fucking anthropomorphize, foxes are perhaps sitting at the very top right next to all of the other canines. I'm not even sure why they decided to make them furbait, since that's just as creatively bankrupt as plagiarizing the lore they're based on while doubling down on the autism.
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RoTJR Meme Team just finished their first session!
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>>51569765
The game has thundercats, furbait, generic anthro, and catgirls.
Because they had issues with artists just drawing whatever the fuck when catfolk needed art they wrote them being very variable into canon.

Forget what page, but it's in Blood of the Beast.
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>>51569801
What's wrong with anthropomorphizing foxes?
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>playing a Dragon pacted Avowed
>not sure what my Alter Self disguise should be

I wonder if my GM would let me take the appearance of a half-dragon without actually being one.
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>>51569765
>>51569773
>>51569812
LITERALLY the page I just posted. That's why I posted it.
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>>51569854
Well, for starters it gives trash like you something to shitpost about, so I suppose there's that. Second of all, I don't see the point in designing a race to be furshit out the door when normal people are at best put off by furry art, and actual furries will just cram as much of their fetish into the world whether or not there's a first party race that preemptively does so.
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>>51569810

Tell us more! Tell us more!
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>>51569872
It just says 'nearly human'

Not in what way, boyo.

Pic related could be described as 'nearly human'
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RotJR Team 1 Sessions Greentext

>Everyone standing around, listening to opening speeches.
>Reactions are mixed.
>Onryou making hella copper, selling fried food
>Seht tries to buy a sweet roll, gets mistaken for a small child.
>Casimir and Valeriya catch up, while standing in line for food
>Corwin jumps behind the counter, and helps the overwhelmed Onryou
>Seht and Aranha make their introductions.
>Constable Valeriya bravely apprehends a dangerous criminal, who stole a sweet roll.
>Corwin insists its a misunderstanding, and pays for the kid.
>That'sNotJustice.gif
>Seht wanders off, and gets scammed into buying a carved bear tooth.
>Aranha accidentally buys enough food for 30 people; Onryou insists she eats most of it.
>Casimir encounters a silk merchant that wants the D.
>Critically fails Appraise and Sense Motive
>Not only convinced the cloth is magic, but also pays for it twice.
>Onryou shuts down the stand until lunch and tries to outlift the traveling Strongman.
>Does pretty well, until she tries to lift a 2000 lb. rock, and throws out her back.
>Suddenly Butterflies!
>Followed by more food!
>Casimir, Aranha, Onryou, and Valeriya sit down share some stories and share a meal.
>Onryou advances her goal of fattening up the spider.
>Seht hangs out on the outside of the crowd with Mori.
>Corwin starts feeling nervous, and goes for a walk.
>Suddenly Gobbos!
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>>51569891
People will always shitpost. People will also always anthropomorphise animals and objects. This isn't new. This practice is older than abrahamic religions.
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>>51569938
damn, I'd better get crackin' on the Team A greentext
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>>51569927
Considering the bullshit people pull out of their asses, as well as the fact that catfolk are assumed to come in a ridiculously wide spectrum? Shit could land anywhere from "basically Miqo'te" to "an honest to god tiger on his hind legs". It's less about the specifics of it, though, and more the fact that canonically something with the same statblock could look like it wasn't even the same race beyond "both are cat-like".
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>>51569669
thats some bravery class feature right there, mysterious stranger.
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>>51569938
>Seht gets scammed
Does it matter if the story is true? It's a story that sticks, and the tooth is real, so it's not a scam.
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>>51569938

>Silk merchant wanted the D

But is she cute?
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>>51569985
I think she was a middle-aged lady.

But then she was talking to the middle-aged guy, so...
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>>51569972

Spoken like a man that just got scammed.
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>>51569985
>But is she cute?

Prevailing theory, is that it was Amalthea in disguise. SO...
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>>51569997
You just gotta have the right attitude man! It was one silver for a cool story and a bear tooth, who cares that the story wasn't true?
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>>51570004

Casimir needs to get on that, then.
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Give me ideas for a Slayer.
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>>51570038

Local hunter and woodsman.
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>>51570013

Hey look! You're on the third stage of grief!

Four more to go, buckaroo.
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>>51570038
Taxonomist.
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>>51570038
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>>51570018

He might, if the silk merchant decides to stick around after the goblin attack.
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>>51570038
no
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>>51569938
>Onryou advances her goal of fattening up the spider.

... go, on.
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>>51569938
RotJR Team A, Session 1 highlight reel

>Everyone's listening to opening speeches before dispersing into the crowd
>Sweettooth prowls around looking for lawbreakers
>Etan and Rubio get their drink on
>Quinn and Sweettooth meet up near the shooting gallery, hit it off, flirt a bit
>Aster and Tia talk Ethumion stuff with Saboten
>While talking of their "Master" Quinn, Saboten the Calistrian sacred prostitute gets the wrong idea
>Thankfully Quinn arrives in time to dispel those worries, right when Aster and Tia are almost talking smack about her
>Rubio nearly starts a fight with a teenage girl over some psychically-flung cutlery
>Etan gets loaded down with bread out of a vendor's fear he might snap in half
>Rubio flirts with Ameiko
>Everything's great, swallowtails got released, priest is officiating
>Wait, something sounds like a bunch of goblins smashing shit and attacking people
>Oh hey, it's exactly that
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWWB_BBtrTs

I might have missed a few things, and I'm trying not to spoil anything we might have done further. Feel free to chime in anybody else who was in group.
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>>51570056
But I'm still denying that it was a scam, which is either the first or the second stage. A scam would mean that he didn't get his money's worth out of it, and he definitely did.
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>>51570038
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What would be the best class for a combat butler?

One of my players is gonna be picking up Leadership on account of becoming the head of their nearly-impoverished but rising noble household, which will come with the loyalty of the family butler or head maid, a formerly retired adventurer.

First party or SoP classes only.
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>>51570084

the booty must achieve critical mass at any cost.
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>>51570089
Shantae stuff's super fitting for Varisia anyway, innit?

That nice blend between gypsies and genies.

Gypsies and Genies sounds like one of those in-world allusions to D&D.
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>>51570107
vigilante
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>>51570107
Monk butler is always ready to defend their master, even when attending a fancy ball at someone else's estate and they did a thorough weapons-check on the help.
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>>51570089
Rest in peace sweetroll, sacrificed in the name of Verbal Components. I'm so sorry Alma, it had to be done.
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>>51570089
ONE DAY

ONE DAY SABOTEN WILL BE IMMORTAL

ONE DAY SABOTEN WILL BE IMMORTAL AND WILL TRAVEL THE STARS
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>>51569938
>Onryou shuts down the stand until lunch and tries to outlift the traveling Strongman.
>Does pretty well, until she tries to lift a 2000 lb. rock, and throws out her back.

ROLLED A DAMN ONE! Sorry i just didnt have my morning protein shake is all.
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>>51570177
Aranha's held on to her sweetrolls!

Along with her stupid amount of kebabs and I think fried elephant ears.
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>>51569968
>tony the tiger brawler
Shit...why do I want this
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I'm about to try my hand at play pic related as a cleric. What would be an appropriate weapon to use? Scythe would be an obvious choice, and it has a good crit-multiplier, but what about something more atypical?
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>>51570199
not to mention to plates of Ameiko's Curry salmon
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>>51570089
Sweettooth is a pure boy who mumbled out "Y-you too.." when faced with flirting.
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>>51570209
He mostly impaled people with his hands, so I'd recommend that route
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>>51570213
AND the curry salmon.

She's going last in initiative because of all that food!
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>>51570204
Iiiiit's grrrrrreat!
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>>51570197
>morning protein shake
...nah, too easy.
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whats a cool name for a major artifact thats a magic time sword made out of obsidian?

the best i got is "The Ebon Hour"
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>>51570268
The Black Hour sounds a little bit better.

Witching Hour maybe.

Ooh, or just The 11th Hour
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>>51570268
Midnight.

>>51570209
Falchion. Sword cane.
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>>51570268
"Millennium Hand".
Legend speaks of a planet-sundering larger model, the "Eon Hand".
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>>51570304

Subtle. I like it.
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>>51570304
When they meet, what happens? Is it a happy land?
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>>51570268
Hourglass

see what i did there
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>>51570359
Still needs the tiny "Minute Hand", acting as a sort of key.
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>>51570089
Rotjr session 1 team A fight details, in spoiler text because other team hasn't done the fight yet.
Potentially actual fight spoilers so the other team don't read this

>Party arrives at the scene, ten goblins gathered in a crowd
>Quinn and Sweettooth both roll 1 on initiative
>Goblins all at least 45 feet from the party
>Etan, Rubio and Aster all charge into the fight, each one-shotting a goblin
>Tia decides to use best strategy and cast Darkness on herself to give Aster total concealment
>Player then remembers goblins have darkvision and hit their head on their desk
>Goblins move and rush the three frontliners, tripping Aster and Rubio, and another on Rubio mounting them
>Saboten joins, uses telekinesis to smash goblins into each other
>Quinn OOC wants to tell Sweettooth which one to shoot so they can coordinate but because she's blind she can't actually see the target in character, so Sweettooth decides to save ammo and charge in with a punch
>Quinn finally uses EXPLOSIONS and downs a few goblins: Aster and Tia call out the relative coordinates so she knows where to aim
>At this point most of the goblins are out, but then suddenly a second group double the size with fireworks appears across the square
>Saboten: "Wait, I've got this."
>Saboten uses pactmaker enthrall
>GM has to quietly roll seventeen will saves
>Half the goblins fail and lose the will to fight, but we can't damage any of them because it breaks the spell for all of them
>Quinn, AOE blaster, would be glaring at Saboten if she could see
>Frontliners head in, Rubio gets tripped and grappled by goblins again
>After a round, the fireworks explode and cover half the battlefield in fire damage
>Including the goblins, the enthrall breaks
>Party now has to clean up all goblins while on fire, but manage pretty well
>Remaining goblins flee, one gets AoO'd by a floating barrel
>Goblins still raiding everywhere, party resolves to try and find the commanders, and session ends there
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>>51570268
If you want hour, 13th hour, if you want clock
Short Needle (understated)
Millenial Needle
Eon Needle
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>>51568661
It's not too late to sign up, Anon!

The deadline is still a few hours away!

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo
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>>51570394
The Minute Hand is the onehanded weapon. The Whatever Hour is the twohanded, and the Second Hand is the light weapon you dual wield with the Minute Hand.

It's a pun y'see because not only is it the smaller one, you hold it in your second hand.
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>>51570268
>>51570285
>>51570294
>>51570304
>>51570368
>>51570394
>>51570452
this is a quick attempt to try and describe how i would like it to work

The Unbreakable Blade

is an intelligent +3 transformative obsidian anarchic speed blade whose shape fluxuates constantly. Unless the user convinces the blade to remain in a specific form, or forces it to by contesting its Ego DC and succeeding, roll a 1d10 and consult the chart below for its form. The weapon keeps this form until the start of your next turn.

INSERT CHART

Despite the blade's magical nature, the obisian it is made from retains its Fragile quality. However, when the sword gains the broken condition by any means, time in the immediate area is rewound to whenever the weapon was last unsheathed. Any enemies slain or harmed by the blade are restored to whatever condition they were in at the time it was drawn. Once per day, the user can invoke this ability with a command word without breaking the blade. Enemies in the immediate area must make a INSERT DC Will save to retain memories of the events before time rewound, and must also make a INSERT DC Fortitude save or be stunned for 1d4 rounds.
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I'm new and making a 1st lvl character. I have no experience making characters
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>>51570546
imagine Unbreakable in quotation marks
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>>51570548
how do I make an explosion obsessed maniac
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>>51570587
>>51570548
Alchemist, take the Grenadier archetype, boost int and dex, throw bombs on things. Make mutagens that let you throw bombs better. Take infusions that let you throw bombs better.

Throw bombs, don't be a team killing fucktard, and you should be fine.
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>>51570587
Jesus Christ, this question has been asked 4 times in the last day or two.

If you want Megumin, the answer is Kineticist.

If you want to throw bombs, look at Alchemist.
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>>51570632
>megumin
>kineticist
once a day and all day are very different words anone
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>>51570632
>the answer is kineticist
Why would you do this to someone just starting out
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>>51570109
>>51570084

Aranha needs to be Onryou's personal food critic.
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Hey, you all. With all the talk of shitty Augunas kitsune again, I come bearing one of his most up his own ass works yet.

Image rip to your heart's content and enjoy. I know I did.
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>>51570392
Haha, sounds like a good time
blunders and all
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>>51570756
old news
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>>51570089
>>51570392
>Quinn's a girl casting EKUSUPUROSHON
I thought Quinn was a dude, a blind masseusse, party dad-to-be, and in his spare time, a vitalist/tactician, what the fuck happened
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>>51570661
Because it's the best way to simulate Megumin, and for a game with new people, it doesn't matter that Kineticist is hot garbage.
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>>51570756
God this is hard to read.

>Kitsune have better memories and notice more

Sure would like to see where that is in their stats.

>Kitsune can outrun anyone

>Base Speed: 30ft
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>>51570823
Ifrit blaster sorcerer with the fire bloodline casting fireball. You're welcome. And also stupid.
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>>51570653
>once a day and all day are very different words anone

All of the kineticist's class features involve knocking themselves out in order to make a bigger explosion.

Find me something more Megumin-esque than that.
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>>51570818

Quinn's player found out that Team A's composition was a sausage fest. so snip snip, Quin's a chick
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>>51570832
>Ifrit blaster sorcerer with the fire bloodline casting fireball

>Ifrit
>Character is clearly human

>Fireball
>Comes online at 6th level
>I too enjoy waiting until 6th level to do the 1 thing I want.

>Casting spell doesn't have any physical side effects
>Can cast spells other than fireball.
>Megumin

Anon pls stop being a literal shit-eating retard.
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>>51570756
>The Kitsune Condition
>Life as a Kitsune
>Kitsune Culture
>Kitsune Origins
>Kitsune Religion

Someone stop this mad bastard.
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>>51570818
Their official application was an Aspirant Avowed/Ghost Sovereign Soul Weaver with life sphere focus, but still a blind guy.
Then the party actually had more guys than girls so they swapped over from guy to handsome girl.

Still blind, and still a healer.
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>>51570863
>looks pure human except glowing red eyes
That's textbook "Ifrit (Mostly Human)", anon.
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>>51570812
Yeah, I know. Didn't know if it had been posted in any form, though, and the current topic seemed as good as any. Wish I had Childhood Adventures, too, since Buhlman-poster stopped right at the archetype options, the part I was actually kinda interested in.

I got all of Strange Aeons so far, too, but I'm pretty sure they're too big to post directly, for the couple anon that are constantly asking for them.
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>Your listing has been disabled, in order to post this type of adult content you must present the game in a PG-13 manner. Please change your image and remove any mention of sexual content other than warning users that there will be adult content. If you post this again you will be banned.

Wew.

t. Sultana GM
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>>51570962
F
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Are half-elves and half-orcs the only half-humans that have acces to human traits and favoured class bonuses?
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>>51570962
Whatever happened to "We do not interfere with games"?
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>>51571108
Wait they do? Without feats or anything?
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>>51570962
You should have expected this.
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>>51571108
I think you get it if you play a half-human half- Qadiran.
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>>51569793
>tfw only the first ep is subbed because nobody cares about an adorable korean kid's show.
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>>51571129
I don't understand
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>>51571128
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/67687/the-sultanas-hot-slave-harem

What is dead may never die.
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>>51571126
http://paizo.com/paizo/faq/v5748nruor1fn#v5748eaic9r7c

I'm wondering if there's any reason to think featured races like Aasimar and Dhampir might have access to similar.
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>>51571108
It's an ART for most of the planetouched races, usually called "mostly human" or something similar.

>>51571126
Yeah, the half- races get to count as all races they are for the purposes of feats, FCBs, racial traits (not to be confused with race traits), the whole works. Half-elf and half-orc get to count as elf and orc, too.
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>>51571145
It's only for half-elf and half-orcs. It's tied to their "_ Blood" features.
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>>51571108
Half-giants do so as well, as so does anyone with Mixed Blood (Human). Also, some DMs allow to take the Human FCB as Tieflings with the Pass for Human traits and other equivalents.
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>>51571145
Those are tricky because they're meant to represent really any kind of humanoids that got combined with something special. You'd just be giving them access to all FCBs and traits unless you limited them to humans, and then you're diminishing fluff potential.
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>>51571108
Inner Sea Races added alternate race traits for a bunch of 'em.

>Aasimar: Scion of Humanity
>Fetchling: Bound to Here
>Ifrit: Mostly Human
>Undine: Mostly Human
>Sylph: Mostly Human
>Oread: Mostly Human
>Tiefling: Pass for Human
>Suli: Mostly Human

In addition, if your DM allows 3pp, Forrest's Avowed has a trait that lets anyone count as any race.

>>51571200
Fuck "some DMs allow", that's literally the rules. That's literally what it's for. Some DMs allow you to make iterative attacks or cast spells above 1st level, too. These are called "people with reading comprehension and who do not hate you".
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How's Vanguard Slayer? I've never seen a Teamwork Feat in an actual game before but that initiative bonus looks hot.
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>>51571383
If you take Lookout and someone else in your team does too--or if you have some way to grant it to them (Cavalier dip?) you're giving your party a decent initiative boost.
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>>51570866
Isn't blind kind of a major problem for, well, anyone? Is it at least the Clouded Vision Curse, so they can see SOME shit?

Also, Aspirant? Isn't that the one that transforms into the thing they've got a Pact with? Tell me more, what is her pact? Finally, I've never heard of a "Ghost Sovereign" archetype for the Soul Weaver, what's that?
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>>51571555
If youre rolling with poorfag gms who dont give a shit and youre mostly melee then it doesnt matter. If youre on premium with the fancy ass shadows then even a melee will have trouble specially on big maps and basically turn the game into doom3 the tabletop, duct tape wont save you edition.
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>>51571604
... What?
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>>51571555
Ghost Sovereign is a pretty cool thing from the War Handbook and Quinn is playing the flavor of that quite close to the base fluff.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wKYQDiexOl7efIFLp_1nfJIlj9ky04senq8l6WbweQk/edit

Blind is a refluffed Clouded Vision curse.
Mechanically she can sense everything in 30 feet of her as if she could see with darkvision, but in fluff she's completely blind and gets around by seeing people's souls.

Ghost Sovereign is basically Pan's Labyrinth: you're destined/chosen to rule over a kingdom of spirits when you die, so obviously the pact she chose is undead. Undead Aspirant hasn't even hit playtest, but since we're pre-level 4 it's playable just by extrapolating from the base pact.

Her super form doesn't make her look like a zombie but is temporarily unleashing her ghost king powers.
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>>51571619
He's referring to some Roll 20 functions

As for why, you got me
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>>51571555
Hihi, it's Quinn!

Yes, to do a character who's been blind all their life and has overcome most of the drawbacks (in other words, to make the character PLAYABLE), the DM let me swap my racial vision for the Clouded Vision curse, treating it as a combination of good hearing and a vague and poorly defined sense of spiritual energy because she has a constant death sense.

The Ghost Sovereign is from the War handbook! The default fluff, which I have embraced enthusiastically because it's REALLY COOL, is that you're the sort of larval state of the eventual ruler of an afterlife empire, a kingdom eternal, with your spectral subjects coming to serve you and help you grow into your full potential. Mechanically, you swap your Blessings and Blights for a sort of stripped-down version of the 4e Lazylord, and your normal Summon Spirits power for short-lived Conjuration companions representing your court.

So of course, my Avowed Aspiration is Undead (Lich subpact), because I'm drawing my power from that kingdom, but rather than transform into rotty bones and tombs of horror, it's all cloaks and other royal regalia formed from chill mists, turning spectral, and hurling <pic related> blasts. The Undead Aspirant attunements aren't out yet, but when Forrest was last asked, she said it'd be done soonish and since we don't actually need it until next level, it'll be fine!
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>>51571710
>>51571636
Awesome, seems fun. Hopefully all the other characters in each party will have fun too!
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>>51571710
Spheres has plenty of ways to overcome blindness too. I made a hetakonrhnrkherieres that just spent a swift action to feel the area around them in a ten foot radius every turn, which was the equivalent of fucking blindsight 10ft at level 1.
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>>51571710
Oh, almost forgot, I also grabbed the Soul Buying feat from the Avowed book! I figured, how better to fill a kingdom full of loyal ghosts than to get their allegiances now, before they die?

Admittedly, it may be difficult to convince the other party members and/or NPCs to GIVE ME YOUR SOUL but I'm confident we'll find a few converts along the way. After all, who wants to wait in line for an eternity, trapped between Pharasma and Groetus, shivering in the space between stars and praying they make it before a night hag or an astradaemon snatches them? Pledge your loyalty to Quinn and shortcut past all that, straight to the part where you get to live forever in a world without suffering!
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Just submitted my first app to an online campaign ever. Fingers crossed, I hope I didn't completely fuck it up.
Also, there's very little player options that center around being an expert in ruins or dungeons, what's up with that?
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>>51571877
was it to one of the /pfg/ games?
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>>51570823
It is not. Kineticist is not a piss poor representation. It can't even be called a representation because the power sets are nothing alike.
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>>51571877
A lot of pathfinder doesn't take place in a dungeon anymore, sadly. That always bothered me.

That being said, not entirely true. Archaeologist bard and similar things are in there.
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>>51571877
Zalat Mota, yeah? He seems neat, though I would worry about 13 AC at level 3. At least grab an Armored Quilt fluffed as whatever, +1 AC for no penalty is always good.
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>>51570837
Spheres caster is far better at it.
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Wild applications did appear in Chavtered Star:
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/68369/pathfinder-adventure-path-shattered-star
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>>51571942
Yeah, you noticed. 1 AC doesn't usually make a big difference, and so I can skip the kilt. Besides, I can cast Shield if I need to, and I'll be at a distance.
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>>51572246
That 1 ac can be the difference between you surviving and dying.

The one who laughs at one point, dies by it.
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>>51572287
I can agree with your sentiment, but 14AC isn't exactly tanky, so it's not really worth the trouble.
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So, for an morally grey campaign I'm in, I'm thinking of making an unchained Barb with the raging cannibal archetype. I want this character to be the party's "plan B" character, the one that's let out when SHTF. I'm planni9ng on RPing him like Jet Li's character from Unleashed. I have a rough outline of how to advance the character in terms of feats and what not, was just wondering if people had any tips. No limits on what sources are being used. And the character is half-orc, was thinking going half-elf just for shits and giggles though.
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>>51567703
So they aren't even babes? Just regular bitches? Very disappointing.
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>>51572420
yeah, but every point of AC you don't have is another inane enemy that just got its chance.

Like you said, you can cast shield if need be, but 18 is far better than 17. of course there's always mage armor, but that suffers from the issue of needing to be cast, which means its not always active and it costs a spell slot, even if a lower level one.

Never scoff at one AC, because the amount of times i've heard "barely missed" is more than you would think.

Another way to look at it, is if you roll just a d20, 1 ac is 5% chance to get hit. so 14 AC is 70% chance to dodge, where-as 13 is 65%.

Especially if its basically a free net boost at no cost to you outside of gold. You will have more gold than you can deal with at some point. Don't be afraid to spend early.

All that said, if you choose not to take my advice, more power to you. Its your choice to do what you wish, but i did do all i could to warn you.
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>>51569598
See, I would never tolerate some Tian shit. I'd rather have a fox-face PC than some weird Tian masturbatory fodder.

Erastil Bless Andoran, Freedom ain't free, etc.
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>>51569662
Those hips are making me feel dangerously cheesy
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>>51569927
I like the Thundercats-with-big-ears look, personally
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>>51570038
Hypercompetent drunkard who's actually a depressed War veteran
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>>51570260
If she missed it, she's not easy enough
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>One guy decapitated
>Another guy cleaved in half by another PC with the whole party's approval
>Third guy shot in the back by another PC to the party's horror
>Shooter PC left to his own devices as the survivors sail away
Not every day that a prison break leaves half the party dead or MIA.
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>>51572930
Get your GM the number of the suicide hotline if you think their plans are utterly fucked after all that.
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>>51572979
The DM is a madman and I'm pretty sure he set the scenario up so he could try to cull some meh characters from the party.
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>>51565133
Why doesn't your character wear high heels?
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>>51573324
He doesn't ride
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>>51573324
She does when she hosts a party at her estate.
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>>51573328

This is the only acceptable answer
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>>51573324
They did but the had to burn the hidden blades, poison capsules and explosives in them to escape from the mansion a few sessions ago. Now they're barefoot.
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>>51573324
Absolute nightmare to fight in
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How do PRC's work with gestalt? Can I use my other class to multiclass back into my "main" class for the purposes of avoiding lost caster levels/spell progression?

For example can I go Wizard(5),EK(1)/Fighter(5),Wizard (1) and essentially weasel out of that one level where I would have normally lost a wizard level?
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>>51573592
Yes. Gestalt actually has no concept of 'sides' - it's just a usually convenient was of looking at it. Every level you just gain two class levels.

But either way you've still lost a level of /something/.

Hybrid PrCs actually aren't allowed by normal gestalt rules though.
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Inheritor's Crusader seems like a no-brainer on a cleric of Iomedae. What are the downsides to three levels of full spells, full BAB, and d10 hit dice? I mean, I guess Iron Will is a tax, but the skill prereqs were already good ones to have anyway, and +2 WILL isn't THAT bad, right? Plus it's a prereq for other shit too.
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>>51573324
Because they do nothing for the comfort or the safety of your feet, nor do they remain in great condition after a year of heavy daily use even without any magic.
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I got a question, what are ways to recover/get maneuvers more reliably as a Mystic? Right now I am L2 so there are not that many to pick for battles but later on I would think that getting the right maneuver will be important later and given the inherent randomness of Mystic's granted maneuvers, might cause problems
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>>51573642
Do insulating workboots give a bonus against electrical damage?
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>>51573674

I would allow it. Good lucking finding a pair though
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Is it worth it to spend 4 feats to get an Improved Familiar on a class without a familiar?
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>>51573716
Assuming you went eldritch heritage to do it then as long as the other benefits help you out then it *might* be fine.

You better make damn good of the fucker though, buy him a handy haversack of his own full of L1 wands, smokesticks, Scrolls and other cost effective shit.
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>>51572567
this is the wrong way of looking at AC.
the better way is to calculate the bonus of the current enemies you fight, then compare that bonus to your AC to get the probability of their hitting you, every extra AC you get should be compared on a non linear way that determines the chance you have to get hit, and each points affect on that chance. for example, if you only got hit on a 19 to 20, an additional point of AC would grant you a 50% reduction in attacks that hit you. very worth it.
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