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Roboute Rebellion edition

>Previous thread
>>51555217

>Dank Daily Duncan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cA_VKgWzSQ

> 40k reference in wiki format
https://sites.google.com/site/wh40000rules/

>Rules and such. Use Readium for epubs. Sorry, it's shit but it'll read 3s.
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>Latest GW teases
https://www.warhammer-community.com/warhammer-40000/

>Latest GW attempts to fuck up your list
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-JP/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>THIS IS THE ROSTER CREATOR, IF YOU ASK FOR IT, PLEASE FUCKING KILL YOURSELF
https://webapplications-webroster.rhcloud.com/rc/web/#/rosterCreator

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>The Black Library (Can someone get Gulliman to get us a new copy of the codex astartes, Farsight refuses to return our only copy)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q
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First for Vect
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>>51558525

The Ultramarines will save us all
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He is going to make SUCH a good Chaos Space Marine Lord or Daemon Prince.
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Sup /tg/. Let's have some bingo.
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Anything from FW weekender that isnt horus heresy?
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>>51558607
What in the fuck did you just fucking say cunt?
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>>51558607

Chaos is going into the shitter now, friend. It's the time of the Eldar and Imperium now.

You have become irrelevant. Expect more like Lion, Dorn, Corax, Khan, and Russ joining soon.
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Remember Ynnead leaks
https://imgur.com/a/dbR41
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scrolling through the tau codex i have noticed that they have TONNES of ap4 weapons. aside from other fire warriors or veteran guardsmen what other army uses lots of 4+ armor saves on their units? i dont have a huge knowledge of other armies apart from basics
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>>51558610
replace all the squares with discussion about the new ribroast gorillaman model
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>>51558645
Space Marine Scouts only have a 4+.
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Reposting since we apparently migrated.
So when Cypher comes out in March you won't be able to buy the old model just like with Ahriman, right? Or will they wait until they release the models separately, as my local GW dude said they'd do with Cawl/Greyfax/Celestine?
When is the next lot of Made to Order coming out?
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>>51558662
do space marine players ever take scouts? every battle report ive watched theyre absent.
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>>51558595
>I play ultramarines because they are the most pure and enlightened of all the Astartes
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>>51558671
I take them in my more fluff oriented lists. Some people use them to take the smallest amount of troops you can, in order to spend more points elsewhere.
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>>51558645
>tau
>guard
>renegades
>d/eldar, harlequins (varying amounts, avg. armor strength goes eldar>dark>harlies)
>daemons don't really have armor
>Skitarii
>Orks
>Necrons
>Nids
>GSC
>Scions and Inquisition

I think that covers it.

Pretty much, anybody that's not Marines, and even marines sometimes if they're using Scouts.
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>>51558645
Skitarii has a lot of 4+. Cult Mechanicus also has kataphron destroyes with 4+.
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>>51558664
>When is the next lot of Made to Order coming out?
Why bother with made to order? He's metal, and not exactly hard to find on ebay.
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>>51558607
Especially since they inexplicably gave his armor Tzeentch detailing.
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>>51558634
>>51558635
I'm serious. I'll strap a few more bolters on his gauntlet, add some skulls and spikes, and remove the loyalist iconography. Instant success.
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I'm likely super retarded but.

If characters in an army with Belisarius that can take Relics, have access to Arcana Mechanicum,

And if a Cadia Detachment gives Pask access to a Relic (Kabe's Herald)

Could Pask potentially take any of the Arcana Mechanicum, like Memento Morispex or Omnissiah's Grace?
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>>51558687
You may be mistaken. The MTO question is unrelated to Cypher, I've gotten some nice stuff each time it swings around and I was thinking about nabbing Cypher at the same time as well.
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>>51558637
>20x3 Scatter laser Windriders with Soulburst.
>Kill one and eat 24 S6 shots.
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>>51558707
You can only ever have one relic on a character.
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>>51558712
oh, my bad

I'm not sure when it is, though I think the next batch is for old warhammer fantasy models. That's the one they were taking suggestions for a month or so back.
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>>51558645
>aside from other fire warriors or veteran guardsmen what other army uses lots of 4+ armor saves on their units?

In addition to what others have said, giving a weapon AP4 puts it in the tactical niche where it can ignore the armor of GEQ's and weaker, while still not penetrating the 3+ armor of MEQ's. This makes them very good at hunting low-save infantry, but still "ineffective" at dealing with Space Marines and their equivalents.
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>>51558707
Yes.
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>>51558723
Yes? I'm asking if the Cadian Detachment, making Pask a character eligible for a Relic, allows him access to The Arcana Mechanicum Relics.
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>>51558707

>mold lines everywhere
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>>51558729
FW's are still real good at slapping MEQ. All those S5 shots with Markerlight and Fireblade support = a lot of saves to pass.
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>>51558737
Oh, my bad. I figured Pask was already a character to begin with.
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>>51558637
Wait, do they not have battle focus? That's odd
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>>51558739
I see one on a plasma gun but not anywhere else.
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>>51558751
Of course not. Thats for disciplened CWE.
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>>51558683
>>51558682
>>51558729

ty for replies, good to know what sort of armies using ap4 is good for.

that being said, are vespids as good as they look? s5ap3 shots would give tonnes of trouble to MEQs and markerlights can mean they basically get no saves whatsoever in some situations. admittedly the vespids are kindof expensive for what they are and they only get one shot each so without markerlights theyd suffer.
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>>51558739
Yup. all my shit is like that.

>>51558750
He is, but in the IG codex, not all characters have access to relics. Only Lord Commissar, and Company Commander.
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>>51558757
I'm new and I've never seen Dark Eldar played, so I assumed they'd have it too since they're Eldar. Huh, maybe they won't be as fucked up as CWE
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>>51558693
That was my plan if I could get my hands on the box. There's basically one thing I want from each triumverate, so trying to split is a pain.
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I've been out of the loop a while, looking to get back in.

I mostly want to use Space Marines to do the heavy lifting, since I prefer using the iconic unit for each race. Tacs in Rhinos and drop combi-melta Sternguard were the big deal when I last played - how meta-fucked is this concept by now?
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>>51558732
>>51558737
Thanks guys, Just got my Table playable last week, and my GSC friend is going to rape me on it today.

Still needs a lot of work, but I've been itching to play for a while.
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>>51558832

Hope you have extra lube ready for your ass
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>>51558880
Can GSC still assault T1 if they roll a six on the ambush table even with FAQ?
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>>51558901
Yes
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>>51558723
Tau and Astra Militarum don't have a limit imposed by their codex.
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>>51558810
Stormlance Battle Company, Pinion Battle Company and normal Battle Company formations all make tacs useful (stormlance probably being the best for straight buffs to them).

Sternguard are expensive for what they do, and Deathwatch do it better anyways.

It also depends a lot on your LOCAL meta, what people bring, etc.
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>>51558766
If you have plentiful markerlights, they could be pretty good. Not as good as suits, but fun.
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Pre-order'd the Reborn Warhost Detachment today.

Hope I get a Jes Goodwin print.
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>>51558766
Vespids are in a weird place. They're kind of trying to be assault units in an army that can't really support that.
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So what's the over-under on Ynnari being broken to shit like CWE?
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>>51558933
What a mishmash of shitty units. Soulburst doesnt even work on vehicles.
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are there any mirrors for the new white dwarf from february?
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>>51559006
Buy it, it's not expensive.
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>>51558923
is it better to go quality or quantity for crisis suits? you can easily spend like 120 points on a single suit if you want or you can go barebones and spend ~40 per so i am curious as to how well they perform either way.
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>>51558737
Pask is a character, yes. Pask does not normally have access to purchasable Heirlooms.

Tanks, which they are attached to, also do not normally have the option to purchase Heirlooms.

The Cadian Detachment gives Tank Commanders access to Kabe's Herald, but Knight Commander Pask is not a standard Tank Commander and therefore doesn't have access to Kabe's Herald.

Access exclusively to Kabe's Herald does allow normal access to the Heirlooms wargear list.

So no, Pask can't take Cawl's Arcana Mechanicoon.
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>>51558832
What materials did you use for that? Looks sick senpai
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4chan isnt 4chan anymore. why do you care for someone who wants to download the white dwarf just give me a mirror
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>>51558953
Eh, I like em.
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>>51559067
No, buy it. It's good. Stop being so cheap.
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>>51559067
If you care that much about it and no one is willing to give you a mirror go find one yourself
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>>51558914
Oh wow, I forgot about the silly detachment concept

Thanks anon
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Repostan. When are these going to be released?
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>>51559084
>>51559099
i just bought a deathwatch army for 230 euro i can at least expect a mirror from you guys its not like im a pirate or something
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>>51559126
Ah, you made the classic mistake of expecting anything from 4chan.
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Is it hard spoilering forum to avoid autistic theories morally wrong?
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>>51559119
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Just bought the traitor legions supplement, and looking at the restrictions dor the detachments it looked a bit harsh, the fact I have to use the Chaos Warband as a basis limits a lot imo, is there some new cool people use to play that comes from this supplement ? Hounds of abbadon + cyclopia seems neat, but as I'm playing lots of bikes in my army I was wondering about night lords, though the terminator tax + no marks restrictions look harsh, I like my bikes with some pop khorne on it...
Has any of my fellow salty chaos marines players found some way of doing great shit out of this supplement ? Also, thoughts on thousand sons/thousand sons sorcery formations pros/cons ?
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>>51559126
Should've bought your WD at the same time then, shouldn't you?
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>>51559015
thought so. Shit.
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>>51559037
Anything Specific?

The Buildings are MDF from Miniduels.
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So they're ending 40k

I just got into 40k

it's not fair
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>>51559157
Only if you don't provide solid evidence.
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>>51559184
>>51559119
What are they?
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>>51559254
Nah they're not ending it. They're just changing up the story a bit and adding more characters.
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Why show the older paint jobs on the store page when superior pieces are available to GW in studio?
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>>51559184
Forgeworld's releases right ?
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>>51559280
Tyrant Siege Terminators, Iron Warriors special unit. Horus Heresy stuff
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>>51559225
>They don't ship to UK

Damn. Shouldn't be too hard to simulate with MDF though, what are they mounted on?
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>>51559254
No, it's not ending.
Literally everyone with a shred of insight (GW, leaks, rumormongerers, etc.) have said it isn't ending.
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are tau pirahnas basically disposable fusion blasters? theres pretty much no situation where i can see them lasting more than one turn of enemy shooting so youd have to rush them towards their vehicles and get those shots off and pray you at least shave off a hull point of maybe get a decent penetration roll.
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>>51559292
I hate Perturabo's guts but those models look sweet, when will they released ?
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>>51559293
their website just lists US as their shipping. I live in Canada. had to Message them on their website for a quote on shipping, and ordered via paypal.
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So next new minis will be chaos. Whose turn is it afterwards?
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>>51559366
>So next new minis will be chaos. Whose turn is it afterwards?

Not so fast, Abaddon.
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>>51559366
Take a guess.
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>>51559343
>canada
move to the GTA and let me play on your table
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>>51559325
S8 AP1 is enough to guarantee a pen on most side/back armor, and the Piranha is pretty much the only Tau fast skimmer. Their role is normally to harass and do as much damage as they can before they inevitably die, much like Stealth Suits.

But most people use Piranhas for the Firesteam Wing / Drone-Net cheese.
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>>51559395
I live in the GTA.

Georgetown specifically.
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>>51559366
>>51559375
>implying it won't be Aun'va reborn, Commander Farshadowsightsun (The secret lovechild of Farsight and Shadowsun) and THE BATTLESUIT THAT WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS!
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>>51559429
No shit? Hamilton here, finally shaking the dust off and playing games again.

What's the scene like in that area?
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>>51559325
I use one in my force for a cheap Seeker Missile platform that comes with two free drones and might shoot a fusion blaster at something. They can last a bit longer if you get a disruption pod and jink, but they're effectively 16 points if you factor in the 24 for 2 drones.
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>>51559407
I've seen Drone Factory cheese once. Most people play Piranha like Piranha.
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>>51559343
I may have to do that in a month or so, the 50 dollar pack of ruins would be a nice starting point for my table
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>>51559487
No Idea. I know a local hobby store just started a small introduction tourney, but I haven't really gone to explore it much.

Went to watch a casual match once. Watched a Deathguard player absolutely rape a new ork player the 1 time I watched Haven't gone back since. I normally stick to my group of friends which is roughly 7 or so people, but I'm always looking to expand if possible.

we have:
>GCS/Nids
>2x Guard
>Eldar
>Sisters
>2x Space Marines
>Orks

Most of them are newer players, some of us (including me), are returning from 4th.
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>>51559330
> I hate Perturabo's guts
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>>51558671
You underestimate the power of scouts.
They can't take grav (won't matter after 8th edition), but a good mix of shotgun squads, maybe some CCW ones and a few snipers brings so many bodies to the table most armies can't get rid of them.
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>>51559330
>I hate Perturabo's guts
Decimate Yourself!
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>>51559638
>>51558671
Scout Sergeants can take a Combi-grav. But pretty much the only reason anyone would ever take scouts is if they're running Raptors, since raptors tactics allow scouts to threaten anything in the game with rending bolters.
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>>51559603
>>51559642

>petulant manchild
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So what did Chaos get in their campaign story arc that isn't a massive dick being shoved up their arse?
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>>51559666

Rending bolters can't do shit to AV14 famalam
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>>51559642
You are no match for the mighty Rogal Dorn.
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>>51559730
But can even dorn stand strong against a skeleton?
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>>51559741
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>>51559673
>>51559603
>brothers must we fight
I wish i had a picture like that of sanguinius
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>>51559277
God I hope Abaddon gets a new, more epic model. He really needs it.
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>>51559526
>>51559487
Now kiss!
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>>51559603
>>51559642
>>51559673
>>51559730
>>51559761


Avatars and Phoenix Lords > Primarchs
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>>51559730
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>>51559765

Nope

he will die and Eliphas/Huron/Honsou will be the new warmaster
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>>51559753
But they are so spooky!
Not even he could not be afraid of such a thing!
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>>51559777
so if the avatar of khaine makes eldar pissed and bloodthristry how does the new avatar make people feel?
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>>51559777
Logar, who is amongst the shittiest of all Primarchs in terms of combat capabilities, managed to murder a Avatar.

Eldar fags BTFO.
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Internet tells me that blowjobs are Slaanesh worship

True?
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>>51559800
Like the average fa/tg/uy on valentines day.
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>>51559777
He choked one Avatar of Khaine to death with his bare hands you know.
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>>51559761
There you go. I can't find the one with Sanguinius in it
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>>51559806
He did not fight it. The Avatar was crippled. It had no legs. The moment it grabbed its sword, its hand fell apart. Lorgar just mercy killed it.

And Lorgar is a monster once he was awakened. What are you talking about? He dominated Daemon-Fulgrim and froze Horus in his place. He defeated Khorne's best BT in the WARP.
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>>51559526
I feel you. My excursions have so far been limited to the just-about-not-local store for a tournament and a couple games against my old boss's boss from GW years back.

Georgetown's kindof out of the way for a pick up match, but I can always drop some contact info if you're ever in this neck of the woods.

>>51559771
pls no
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>>51559819
HOW DO YOU EVEN CHOKE AN AVATAR OF KHAINE? IT DOESN'T BREATHE.

It's made of molten fucking metal. GW come on.
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>>51559796
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12266823

Do you like Eldar?

Do you like Roboute Guilliman?

http://www.strawpoll.me/12266830
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>>51559777
Sorry anon no, Avatars are weaker than everything in the setting and Ynnead itself is weaker than a Primarch
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>>51559842
Just crush its neck.
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So if sanguinius had survived the encounter with Horus would he be the new leader of the imperium in his fathers absence?
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>>51559851
No one likes Eldar, its a trick question
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>>51559851
Man Guilliman is divisive, yet Eldar are pretty loved.
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>>51559800
Sad and depressed.
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>>51559851
>Do you like Roboute Guilliman?
Only if he keeps his helmet on.
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So how XBAWKSHUEG is guilliman i cant tell from the picture. Do we have a approximate size for his model
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>>51559839
Was the fight not before his Awakening?
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>>51559839
To be fair Khorne's Bloodthirsters have never managed to defeat Marine Characters ever
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>>51558595
Fuck. That is a sad, sad picture
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>>51559867
Not according to that poll.

80% to 20%
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>>51559878
about double the size of a Space Marine, from what I can tell.
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>>51559851
I am honestly disgusted there is anyone from /tg/ saying yes to liking Eldar.

I am so disappointed in /tg/
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>>51558645
They're good for breaking up pits and mobs, but won't touch your dedicated attack troops.
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>>51559885
one even got BTFO by Sanguinius and the supposed spirit of Sanguinus. is it confirmed that Blood thirsters dont get stronger over time?
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>>51559895
The fact that the Super Powerful God of War cannot produce skilled warriors makes me question Khorne's credibility
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>>51559893
I love Eldar.
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>>51558933
looks like gw is trying to get rid of some leftover fincast harlequin troupes this way...
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>>51559786

>Honsou
Ok Choice

>Huron
Hah he prefers his corsairs

>Eliphas
Warmastar Starscream, Unless Drachnyen is working with him? NEVER!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUKlZ6yoUCI
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>>51559878
He seems to be around Dreadnought size, easily.
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>>51559907
Khrone measures skill by how many skulls you claim, not how you go about it. And he does have a few champions that have mastered rip and tear.
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>>51559893
Fuck off, loser, they have cool armor
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>>51559840
Sure thing. Hopefully some day we can schedule a game. I'm rarely up in the hammer though.

Shoot me your info at [email protected]
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>>51559893
sorry but not everyone loves loyalists. the toaster fuckers are alright though, i'm still impressed with the cult mech, skittles and cawl
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>>51559878
Halfway between the Emperor and one of the Adeptus Black Ships
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Alpha Legion is fixed apparently
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>>51558607
Lol, linked this model to a friend with the message, "Check out the new Tzeentch Demon prince model!"
The detailing on the armor is too flowing and swirly, theres an eye on his stomach, giant flaming sword, and the size.

Seriously, why the fuck is he SOOOOO big? The Forgeworld primarchs are big, but this guy is the size of a monstrous creature, hes twice the size of his forgeworld model and bigger than the emperor was supposed to have been.
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>>51559853
Avatars exist to job for characters to give them some balls.
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>>51559851
Guilliman on 50/50 right now.

You guys really can't make up your minds on him, huh?
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>>51559976
The Emperor is bigger that you think. A Space Merine could comfortable ride on his little toenail
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>>51559932
I mean one of his strongest champions got killed by being dropped to the earth by a man in gold armour.
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>>51559911
You disgust me, you shouldn't be allowed to play this game
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>>51559988
We can make up our minds, sure. Its just that the other side of the argument is pure mouthbreathing retards.
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>>51559878
He's the size of a demon prince. His armor detailing is pretty flowy too.
Makes you wonder if Gulliman man made a deal with Tzeentch or something.
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>>51559277

>implying you could even paint half as well as the abaddon in your pic, nerd

The Terminator paintjobs are pretty plain though, you really only see the painter's skill on the eyes
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>>51559976
>Seriously, why the fuck is he SOOOOO big?
The bigger the model, the more they can charge. Samre reason ynnead is 3x bigger than it should be thanks to magic swirls.
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>>51560005
Your autism disgusts me
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>>51558525
Horus Heresy
Roboute Rebellion
Ferrus Feud
Russ Revolt
Mortarion Mutiny
Corax Coup d'état
Khan Crisis
El'Johnson Insubordination
Fulgrim Flip-Flop
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>>51560005
Hate us coz you ain't us.
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>>51559932
Really? I'd love to hear of a Bloodthirster who beat a named Space Marine Special Character in combat.

Seriously, if you know one please tell me, it'd make me feel a lot better about Khorne.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12268446
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>>51559977
Ynnead exists to job to Roboute
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>>51559325

You detach the drones from them and use those to block assaults. And they're fast objective cappers too.
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>>51559998
See one thing I really liked about the Horus Heresy, before the books and tabletop, was that it was literally 10k years ago. Our entire civilization at this point is barely half that old, think about how misinterpreted and changed the bible has become and now double or triple that.

My point is that from a 40k perspective the Horus Heresy is just a bunch of myths, and stories of the Emperor being forty feet tall and primarchs being thirty feet tall could just be dismissed as fantastical tales.
But now we have a bazillion novels and the tabletop so we know that these, "Myths" arent myths at all, and literally happened. I still like to take the Horus Heresy books as being myths and that what really happened as being a complete mystery, but forgeworld is certainly doing all they can to kill that mystery.
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>>51560046
Why, when Ynnead's the one who revived him? :^)
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>>51560025
Ferrus Flim Flam
Sanguinius Shakeup
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>>51560046
But Rowboat was resurrected using foul Xenos sorcery.
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>>51560069
Exactly, Ynnead revived Roboute cause Ynnead knows it can't do anything, it needs its Spiritual Liege to save it cause its so pathetic.
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>>51560067
>wallowing in myth instead of fact

You are the sort of heretic the Emperor wanted to purge in the first place

You are why we have fucking psykers
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>>51560025
Rogal Reconquista.
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>>51559938
Yeah, I don't expect to be up your way much either. If I travel for work it's mostly towards niagara. But hey no harm in it unless one of us is a serial killer.
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>>51560089
Im the trap who posted the mark of Slaanesh she got tattoo'd on her butt the other day, so you caught me.

Enjoy your big manly space marines being buff and manly with no girls allowed as they touch their steaming hot bolters together and make passionate glances at eachother from across the gym.
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>>51560117
Not the anon you responded to, but I also frequent /fit/ so I'm perfectly okay with that.
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>>51560117

>Im the trap who posted the mark of Slaanesh she got tattoo'd on her butt the other day
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>>51560046
Seriously? Our death god jobs to a mortal. What the fuck is the point of Ynnead if it isn't even as strong as a Primarch
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>>51560106
he.. he.. yeah.
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>>51558525
>Dank Daily Duncan
lol
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>>51560154
No, it doesn't happen. He's shitposting.
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>>51560188
It's okay don't worry I DEFINITELY do not kill and eat warhammer players.

That would be weird no one does that. haha
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>>51560148
>tfw you want a /fit/ bf with abs but they're all gay
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>>51558779
Dark Eldar have a different army wide rule called Power from Pain which they also lose when played as Ynnari.
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Why isn't there a start collecting thousand sons box?
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>>51560270
Because they're new models and they are still popular. give it a year or something
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>>51560117
He*
His*
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>>51559191
Chaos Warband is really, really good though. Even if it wasn't required you'd generally want it anyway. The main thing to keep in mind is that a single 30-36 point Spawn can cover the required auxiliary choice.
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>>51560117

>trap
>she

Come on nigga, a trap is a guy, who identifies as a guy, dressing up like a girl and looking good enough to fool people, hence "trap" You're a tranny
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>>51560235
So who does Ynnead beat? I mean the God of Death has to be pretty powerful right? I mean surely the emergence of a new God has to be the most significant thing to have happened, it has to have a major impact on the wars and battles, I mean a Warp God should be a much bigger deal than a Primarch
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>>51560287
The feminine pronouns in English are She and Her, so no, no need for correction. We all learned English once, I guess.
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>>51559969
Yup errata'd yesterday
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>>51560154
Why are you so eager to take the bait?
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>>51560328
Who the fuck cares? Are you another tranny or something?
Ill debate the semantics in regards to proper trans terminology on an /lgbt/ thread.
I just want to talk about how the new Roboute Gulliman model is gigantic and the Horus Heresy is gay.
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in a bit of Vidya40k question

has someone here managed to mod Final liberation, the SM forces there is more weak than grotz team, An army full of Mordians is enough to rape the orks
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>>51560117
Oh, hey, I remember seeing you in that one thread on that other board. You know, where you were tripfagging.

Now stop spreading heresy. It isn't nice.
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>>51560334
Reminder that Yncarne =/= Ynnead. It's just an avatar.
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>>51560367
It isn't bait if its true anon
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>>51560377

because that's what a trap is Bridget is a trap, you're just a mentally ill person who'll never receive the treatment they actually need

And don't give me that shit, if you didn't want attention you wouldn't of yelled about being a "trap"
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W T F IS THIS?
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>>51560393
Okay but so what does Ynnead do? Surely a Warp God does something of note, swings some type of battle. Why does it look like the return of Guilliman has a bigger impact on the galaxy than the birth of a fifth god?
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>>51559976
>hes twice the size of his forgeworld model
no he isn't

also guilliman is big because he's got big plans
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>>51560415
Adeptus Black Ships
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>>51560334
It's not a full god, just a shard, a fragment of conciousness.

The Ynnari are trying to feed it more souls to make it grow in power and wake up properly.
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>>51560385
No idea. Shame they didnt add other races to FL, it was such a fun little game.
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>>51560415
It's a dune reference.
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>>51560415
The transport of the Adeptus Buttplugus
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>>51560415
Sisters of Silence Kharon Pattern Acquisitor
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>>51560407
>/pol/
Pls go
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>>51560287
there's someone fragile
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>>51559458
>our SCYTHE will pierce the heavens
sure
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>>51559325
> no situation where i can see them lasting more than one turn
Fortunately there is a formation that allows lost pirhnas to be replenished during the battle, fixing that exact problem
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WHERE MY CRONBOYS AT
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>>51560415
May His passing cleanse the world
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>>51560009
>His armor detailing is pretty flowy too.
Yeah, but it's not like actual Roman emperors didn't have their rather fluid details on their armor (or at least stautes of them in armor). Like pic related, trajan has quite a bit of "flowy" stuff on his breast plate, with the tree-ish things all over and the faces and such.

I think the real reason it looks Tzeentchian is the blue and gold colors, but the ultras had that long before the 1k sons did.
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>>51560377
>Who the fuck cares?
people who arent mentally ill
>I just want to talk about how the new Roboute Gulliman model is gigantic and the Horus Heresy is gay.
then why are you brining up your mental illness in this thread in an effort to get the attention you seem to care far too much about.
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>>51560407
Holy autism.
No one cares dude, leave her alone. We're here to talk about toy soldiers. Leave that shit on The Donald.
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>>51560499
>her
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>>51560418
Did you read Death Masques? The ritual was disrupted and Ynnead coalescing power shattered into Avatars. So at this point in raw power Ynnead is in the same ballpark as Khaine. What Ynnead has mostly don't is completely rearrange the fabric of all Eldar society, both Craftworld and Dark, galaxy wide. As for military victories and where this leads, we'll have to see. Remember all of fracture of Biel-tan happened simultaneously with Fall of Cadia.
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>>51560437
Okay does it win anything? At this stage it looks like everyone just tries to avoid answering the question I've been waiting for Ynnead since 5th and we lost Bieltan and Commo for this so there has to be something right what does it actually do?
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>>51560012
>i am an enormous retard
It looks way different than store page Abaddon, mong.
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>>51560529
In lore, it's only existed for maybe a few weeks, give it a fucking chance.
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>>51560499
>her
Anon, do you have any understanding of what a trap is? Like really, it's not a tranny. They're dudes who dress as girls, not dudes who think their girls
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>>51560529
>what does it actually do?
w e d o n t k n o w y e t

the book ain't out or even fully leaked, bro
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>this ass
Is he guy?
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>>51560524
Only as strong as Khaine? My god does GW really have to make the Craftworlds queens of jobbing. First we have the Avatar of Khaine, jobber supreme, now introducing his apprentice the Yncarne, who comes with added teamkilling faggotry
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i cant seem to find any hint to download the new white dwarf please help a anon out, i did some research for the last hours, nothing
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>>51560337
>You're wrong, here's an explanation that proves you right
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>>51560544
That's enough time for Guilliman to save Ultramar and fly to Terra and beat Kairos. I don't think the Anon is unreasonable to want a God to do something at least similar.

Not to mention in FoC they destroyed a Blackstone Fortress and injured Abaddon in the same span of time.
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>>51560415
>>51560429

This is they type of shit that i expect from the commies in Battlezone98 Vidyagame

>>51560443
>>51560385

forget it, even the chaos mod is behind some stupid yahoo group along with the mod tools for it, even gog mod guide wasn't updated in centuries, and you need to pray to the omnisiah so the game can run on any machine that ins't win 7+

The only old 90's warhammer vydia that runs flawlessly on modern pcs nowdays is Dark Omen

and its bad because Final Liberation is Awesome, though the Imperial forces there lacks a lot of units
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>>51560554
kek
nice
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>>51560529
>Okay does it win anything?

Are you an Ork?

"Oi! But ow many humies did da new Big Boss Krump?"
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>>51560387
I can't help it, Im trying to earn the blessings of Slaanesh.
Wanna take a road trip to the Eye of Terror?
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>>51560557
Are you the same faggot who keeps whining incessantly about Eldar?
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>>51560545
I find it funny here that you call transexuals trannies when tranny means transvestite, which is exactly what a trap is.
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>>51560554
>reading the new rules
>new yannellie ellie eldar get stacking FnP
>As well as the imperium and chaos
>Cybork body is still just a flat 6+
>tfw
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>>51560491
>Autistically spergs out over nothing and tries to derail thread into /pol/
>Accuses others of being mentally ill
kys
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>>51560578
>This is they type of shit that i expect from the commies in Battlezone98 Vidyagame
Remember, this is 30k stuff. A lot of it looks very different.
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>>51560584
No but I like reading about my faction winning and doing well. Since Marines get to do that in 80% of all books I don't think its really weird that I'd like Ynnead to be a point when some Eldar finally win a battle
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>>51560486
No, the flowing armor bits is super Tzeentchy, if you squint your eyes you can practically make out marks of chaos on the armor. The coloration helps, but its also the gigantic size and flaming sword.
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>>51560584
All dis muckin' about is why eldarz is weak panzy gits and Orks is best!
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>>51560624
this isnt a LARP thread, you freak.
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>>51560606
>I find it funny here that you call transexuals trannies
Eh, technically you're right, but it's not like transsexuals shortened down would make sense as transs.
Actually, what is the proper plural of trans? Transes? Transi?
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>>51560606
This is completely off topic.
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>>51560584
Anon I don't think there's a problem with them wanting a fluff win for a change, and Ynnead was built up for a long time as a moment which would give the Eldar a lot of power. I don't even play Eldar but its easy to see this has been a very anti-climatic reveal.

It is quite clear by GW's own admission that the revival of Guilliman is considered to be a more significant event by far than the emergence of the Eldar God of the Dead in the Warp
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>>51560595
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Comments on my 2500 point Astra Militarum list? The chimera's will transport the vet squads while the platoons will have the time of their lives footsloggin it. The LRBT are there to take down heavier models that cannot be brought down by meltas and plasmas carried by the men and the Punisher and the wyverns are there for cleaning up big blocks of infantry. I'm thinking I should put eradicators or executioners on those vanilla russes. I'm also concerned about the lack of a major leader like Creed that could help with orders but anyone with experience want to say anything?
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>>51560629
Ynnead represents the rebirth of hope for the Eldar. Potentially, they are no longer

>dying race

Furthermore, the nature of Ynnead and as far as I can tell from the leaks, the Yncarne, is that Ynnead should keep growing in power over time.
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Kek, Orks.
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>>51560648
>No, the flowing armor bits is super Tzeentchy, if you squint your eyes you can practically make out marks of chaos on the armor.
Nah, romans were doing it long before Tzeentch did.
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>>51560628

it looks like a streamlined and packed up version of the Commie Factory
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>>51560667
Laegely because the Imperium is an ascendant galaxy-spanning empire right now and the Eldar are not. The changes within Eldar society and daily life are profound.
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>>51560624
>posts something that specifically derailed a thread in the past
>tells others that they are the ones that are derailing the thread
Fuck off
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>>51560703

There is order to those flowing bits in the pic you posted (order in that you see what it is and where it begins). The new Guilliman just has flowly bits starting and stopping randomly
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>>51560679
Okay but does this ever translate into any victories at all? Craftworld Eldar have been losing every battle in Fluff for ages now, does Ynnead actually change anything? Cause the leaks make it look like there's just more losing going on. We already had Death Masque, now this, when do we win for a change?

Also, I'm sorry, but it is kinda upsetting that Ynnead's birth is apparently less important than a Primarch reviving. Ynnead's meant to be a Warp God.
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>>51560655
Im in your town.
Seducing your dad.
And your brother.
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So is the new soulburst rule as strong as i think it is?
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>>51560742
Said changes don't seem to amount to anything of note though beyond resurrecting Roboute.

I find it honestly baffling you can't understand the desire of Eldar players to also enjoy some success and victory in the fluff.

Imagine if situations were reversed and the Ultramarines continously failed at almost everything and when a book about the return of Roboute was finally released it involved the destruction of Macragge and a much reduced Ultramarine force running away to ally with Eldar.

I can completely understand Eldar player's desire for their factions to win for a change in fluff, particularly considering how terrible a showing it seems Ynnead makes. I hope for their sakes it eventually happens, considering they've now had to put up with both Death Masque and this.
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>>51560751
Ynnead hasn't been born yet, that's the point.

Only a tiny, smallest little fragment.
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>>51560744
Go back to /pol/
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>>51560767
It seems pretty good, depending on what can get it. Being able to essentially get a free movement, shooting, or assault for things dying is pretty sweet, and effectively makes a lot of things in the army akin to Warp Spiders and able to jump around like crazy.
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>>51560751


A) Now every Eldar soul will now merge with Ynnead, Ynnad will be the newest wheel of reincarnation

B) Slaanesh will lose its power, mainly because ynnead can absorb all souls that the she bitch ate

C) WIth slaanesh weakened and almost gone, They will need a new God that replaces slaanesh as its core concept, not the Ava Devine that it is atm
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>>51560766
delusion and mental illness sure do seem to go hand in hand.
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>>51560751
>Okay but does this ever translate into any victories at all?
We'll have to see in FoBT and the books going forward. The book isn't even out yet. My guess is that yes, this is going to make the Eldar much more aggressive as they actively try to expand Ynnead's power.
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>>51560751
>Also, I'm sorry, but it is kinda upsetting that Ynnead's birth is apparently less important than a Primarch reviving.

Fuck you. This game is about the Imperium and a primarch is a huge mega massive change to the setting and if you can't see that then go sit on a metal aspect warrior, bitch.
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>>51560790
>pretty sweet
>making the top codex even more broken
>sweet
Fuck you man
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>>51560297
Is obsec worth over having marks ? I mean especially on CSM squads, I like to field shaanesh+icon of excess for polyvalent squads, but losing this benefit's a bit harsh if it is just for obsec+chaos benefits shenanigans + eventual chapter tactics :/
Maybe if msu chaos marines with a plasma in a rhino are still viable it would make it better

what about
Night Lords shenanigans

Chaos Warband
Chaos lord (bike pfist Lclaw n stuff)
Termicide with combi meltas
3-6x 5 marines in a rhino with a plasma
3x 3 bikes with a melta
havocs with some special guns

helforged warpack
helbrute
maulerfiend

allied cyclopia cabal

I don't have the point values atm, but as a skeleton, does it look good ?
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>>51560790
yea but i feel like the 7" coherency really fucks it a bit
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>>51560817
>Durr DEldar don't exist!

Fuck you part 2
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>>51560595
Depends on what the Eye of Terror is. Guardsmen tend not to do so great there.
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Are Interrogator-Chaplains good?
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>>51560767
Yes. Most definitely yes.
The idea that if you kill a scatbike squad all other scatbikes, wraithknights and other eldar models with in 7” can shoot is fucking insane.
Assuming it's allowed in tournies, which I'm not so sure it will be, one can just surround a wraithknight with min scatbike units and watch as the opponent is forced to get a phyrric victory at best.
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>>51560807
I meant something concrete, not silly ramblings and fantasies.
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>>51560777
>Said changes don't seem to amount to anything of note though beyond resurrecting Roboute.

Hah no. Please pay attention.

This is what I was talking about with the Ork thing. You're literally looking for the biggest stick to hit things the hardest and fastest as possible.
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>>51560848
yes.
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>>51560829
I really forgot
Fuck only the Craftworld part of you
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>>51560829
>dark city gone
Deldar are basically squatted, their units being merged with the craftworlders codex.

You should be happy you're in the bullshit super-friends club now, lots of easy wins for you.
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>>51560852
we didn't even know if the formations and detachment with the soul burst rule can take jetbikes and/or wraith constructs
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>>51560858
Anon, sorry to say, but that's all canon.
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>>51560822
See >>51560852

7" coherency really isn't that big of a deal. Even if you're not trying to cheeseball it with craftworlders, keeping two or three squads within 7" of eachother isn't too hard to manage, and is even easier if you go full MSU.

Cheap sacrificial squads with low model count will certainly improve it. I expect it to make Craftworlders insane, though for Dark Eldar it'll be more useful at ensuring they have a lot of extra speed and offensive power in exchange for their fragile units.
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>>51560859
Ynnead's only impact is bringing back a Primarch (and killing a lot of Eldar). The birth of Ynnead has done no sizeable damage to Chaos at all.

Honestly I don't get why people don't want Eldar to ever win any battles in fluff.
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>>51560871
New Dark City created, Anon. Commoragh might be gone, but Vect prepared.
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Am I the only person that's pissed because they are doing more Imperium fan-service with Roberto Gonzales Guillesuit? Why couldn't they give Necrons a shot? Maybe Orks or Tyranids? Fucking christ
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>>51560887
It really isn't anon. Slaanesh isn't being squatted. All that stuff there is stuff you made up
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>>51560871
>Deldar are basically squatted
Nope. It appears that Vect is giving Ynnead the middle finger and probably rebuilding Commoragh elsewhere.
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>>51560907
Because Gathering Storm is the start and there's only 3 books in the Gathering Storm series.

More to come.
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>>51560863
How do I make them good? Can I do it without fucking with that awesome model?
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>>51560896

I agree with that other anon that said it more subtlety than I will with his ork analogy. The Eldar are getting shaken up to the core and all you can do is whine that your favourite team isn't winning enough games. You are a simpleton.
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>>51560880
Seeing as formations grant bonuses to soulburst rather than just giving it, that would imply that it's a special rule that isn't necessarily formation only.
Wraiths might not get it, but I highly doubt scatbikes won't.
And even if it's only for the worst units in the dex that's still too much.
The last thing the eldar needed was even more buffs.
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>>51560907
Because the campaign is at its core Chaos vs. Imperium. The involvement of other factions is usually going to be peripheral aside from Eldar due to Slaanesh. They want to set up the primary actors first.
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>sees valrak new video with ork gameplay
>ork acting more like SC2 zergs rather than Orks
>Gorgutz doesn't sound like angry and orky vegeta + zechs marquise Brian Drummond
>The fucking cartoony look and the lack of proper DoW I and II gameplay fun

OK, relic crushed any hopes that i had for this game, the new team is stupid, and the Irish lepper gnome is leading the developing if this shithole of a game.
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>>51560907
As a Tyranid player i dont really mind that we didnt get much in Gathering storm as all non-eldar xenos got pretty much shit on in these books. Ill wait for warzone:Baal if you dont mind.
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>>51560767
Absolutely. Essentially getting another activation for your units in the enemy turn is incredibly strong.
>>
>tease the return of the Lion
>new Girlyman and Cypher 40k models
>inb4 Cypher is the Lion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6gzOcTNKwE
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>>51560975

Maybe some of the original voice actors couldn't return to reprise their roles but these video game companies have to learn a huge part of their appeal are the proper voice actors. Nobody remembers the Soulstorm Gorgutz or DoW2 Gabriel (both had new actors)
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>>51560907
>>51560940
It think too there will be another camp in another part of the galaxy with other factions.
This was only the start.

>>51560949
he has a solid stat line but it isn't high end tier.
do whatever you like, it's a SM hq with bonus zealot, it's nice.
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>>51560975
Entire game has been a let down since its trailer release.
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>>51560998

dude, DOW2 Gabriel was voiced by Brian Dobson, his brother aka SM voice since DOW 1,
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>>51560952
So its fine for Marines to win tons of fluff battles but Eldar aren't allowed to win any?

I'm not that anon but sorry, I don't see why Eldar can't want to win fluff battles to. It isn't just for Marines you know

If Roboute came back and all he did in his book was lose at Macragge and get it blown up people would riot. Nothing wrong with Eldar players wanting Ynnead to actually win a fight of consequence
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>>51560990
Isn't he a little short to be a Primarch?
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>>51560961
I - as an eldar player with fluffy lists - would take battle focus over a msu soul burst list any day.
Fuck Ynnead - I'll stay with Khaine!
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>>51561009
>SM hq
DA hq
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>>51558671
I take Scouts to infiltrate onto upfield, in-cover objectives. Often they are ignored, until your opponent wants that objective...and Scouts are ObSec.

Also, MM on an infiltrating, fast skimmer.
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>>51561038
>So its fine for Marines to win tons of fluff battles but Eldar aren't allowed to win any?

No-one is saying that. There has been one major pitched battle in the story so far that we know of and the Eldar weren't directly involved in it.
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>>51561072
all the same for me...
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>>51561060
MFW word they killed the Khaine Craftworld and turned us into Ynnari.
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>>51561079
I think this is the thing everyone is forgetting. Gathering Storm II isn't even out yet. We don't know what all goes down.
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>>51561091
In what way? Different codicies.
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>>51561033

Paul Dobson is the original Gabriel Angelos. He voices him for DoW1, Chaos Rising and Retribution.
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>>51561079
They lose at Commoragh and Biel-tan, we already know. We also already know that they are at best only partially victorious at Belial meaning the only actual victory they are going to have it Iyanden. Unless the Ynnari are friendly firing it too
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Wait, Commoragh is destroyed?
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Fuck eldar
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>>51560852
Ynnari army cant include Wraith-units. Ynnead doesnt like his souls being in small little gems.
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>>51561122
That is GW's fluff department's general opinion, yes
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>>51561113
>Unless the Ynnari are friendly firing it too
Yvraine's special rules appear to suggest that. She regains all lost wounds when she kills an Eldar.
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>>51561121
Yes
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>>51561102
Yes. And you are right.
But I'm a Eldar/AM player. Space Marine is Space Marine for me.
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>>51561121
Khaine's gate is opened. That seems to imply the destruction of Commoragh.
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>>51561153
Maybe for when fighting enemy eldar?
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>>51561126
You sure? I've seen some things that suggest Ynnari have special "awakened" wraith units.
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A friend of mine is begging me to start collecting again so he can have someone to play. Not opposed to this.

A lifetime ago I used to Deathguard (but I sold all my stuff)

How viable are the Deathguard these days / Plague Marines / Nurgle lads? Do you "have" to have Daemons to be viable?
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You know what I hate about the Badab War or the Abyssal Crusade? I don't feel like anything good comes out of it. Which I get, that's the point but I don't feel like any of the aggressors get what they deserve. Or at the very least any of the victims get anything cool or notable at the end.

Like the Vorpal Swords, who survived going into hell and back and revealing that one saint was an evil dick bag. That is the last time we hear about them. I want to hear more about there story.

I guess what I am trying to say is that if they want me to care about this setting, something good has to happen every once and a while.

I guess a Primarch coming back is kinda good.
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>>51561181
I'm pretty sure. Not "I have book in my hands you retard stop arguing"-sure but like 75%.

I just dont want to see the scenario you proposed CWE doesnt need any damn buffs for hecks sake.
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>>51561193
>How viable are the Deathguard these days / Plague Marines / Nurgle lads? Do you "have" to have Daemons to be viable?
One of the best CSM, solid upper midtier. In a very good place with some options for some really powerful cheese.
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Is it true that the Blood Raven's aren't loyalist Thousand Sons? If so fuck that, that's so fucking lame.
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>>51561235
>Is it true that the Blood Raven's aren't loyalist Thousand Sons?
no, they are
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>>51561193
They are the absolute strongest Chaos traitor gang in terms of renegade tactics, army-wide fnp, fearless and relentless is nice.

Basic marines, Daemon-princes bikers, spawn and havocs are the best units, everything is tough as fuck but -1 initiative

Only downside is Plague marines themselves are kind of pointless next to regular ones, but obviously just use the models. also poor relics compared to other legions.
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>>51561235

It's deliberately vague and nothing has been confirmed or denied either way, other than hints, nudges and winks
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>>51561169
DAMMIT RUSS!

atleast the khan has also escaped and is finding away to go back to terra

unless cegorath asked him to be the book keeper of the black library in case of Arhiman
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>>51561113
Generally in story pacing the good guys lose a lot at the beginning in order to establish the stakes of the conflict. And aside from arguments about how long suffering Eldar fans are, previous military losses and victories have no bearing on how the this story should bear out. Look, I play Dark Eldar and am interested in maybe playing a Ynnari army. I'd be thrilled to see them kick some serious ass in a way that makes sense for the story. I just don't get the immediate whining about battles. The fact that all this shitty wrestling terminology keeps getting thrown in makes it even harder to take seriously. I'd rather not have 40k be WrestleMania.
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>>51561126
>>51561219
While I don't know of wraiths can be in the detachments or not, that doesn't change much.
Scatbikes will almost certainly be in them.
Allied detachment of wraiths, surround wraithknight with a max unit of bikes, cast "souldreap" on the WK.
Now the opponent can't kill the knight with out getting hit by 40 scater lasers.
So now the opponent has to take out the bikes (who are most likely gaurded by other bikes) and try and whether the WK, or just deal with trading one unit for every one of the eldar's they kill.

This shit is going to be broken.
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>>51561219
>I just dont want to see the scenario you proposed CWE doesnt need any damn buffs for hecks sake.

Ynnari units lose their Craftworld/DE special rules. Unless you mean from a super friendly perspective.
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>>51560676
Put Pask in the punisher command tank and have only a single executioner supporting tank.

There is no reason not to have your Russ as 2 smaller squads. Battle cannons are meh due to ordnance. Demolishers are great and the Eradicator is pretty ok too.

Heavy weapon and special weapon squads are garbage and don't let anyone try and convince you otherwise. add heavy weapons too your infantry squads so they don't get killed instantly and take more vets if you want plasma guns.

Take the multilaser and heavy bolter on your chimeras, the heavy flamer (and flamers in general for IG) just never get used due to the range.

All in all your list is pretty bad.
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>>51561235
>Is it true that the Blood Raven's aren't loyalist Thousand Sons?
Probably, but it's never been 100% confirmed, just very very strongly hinted.
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>>51561206
i guess
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>>51560117
>Im the trap who posted the mark of Slaanesh she got tattoo'd on her butt the other day, so you caught me.

Are you in London? I can reward handsomely for chance of tapping a butt with a tattoo like that, and I love traps(I go to Bombshell, Wayout if you are in the scene)
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>>51561342
>>51561219
Wait, never mind. Soulreap isn't a power just a special rule for a witchfire, but that changes nothing since strength from death allows that anyways.
So it's truly is just surround the WK with bikes and force the oppoent to accept a phyrric victory.
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>>51561312
But of course they ahve bearing. Death Masque is literally explicitly brought into the story.

What's wrong with wanting the Eldar to finally win a major fluff battle?
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>>51560046
>Roboute exists to be converted into worthwhile characters.
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>Abbaddon is getting killed
Is this some cool new meme or am I missing something?
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>>51561566
The only downside to getting an absolutely patrician model for my chapter's primarch is I have to see all the flipper handed monkeys try and paint/convert him.
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>>51561342

>it will buff bad units guys!
>bad units are still crap
>instead buffs CWE
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>>51561566
>Yncarne exists only to be converted into Slaanesh
I mean it probably is Slaanesh, that's the only logical explanation for its actions
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Why is everyone saying this is End Times?
How does the Eldar allying with the Imperium mean the setting's coming to an end?
How does Abaddon marching to Terra end the plot?
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>>51561641
It would do beautiful herald/daemon prince of Slaanesh.
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>>51561641
>converted
Naw, gonna work just fine vanilla, at most a slaaneshi sword/claw.
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>>51561644
Retardation.
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>>51560446
>>51560483
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>>51561644
>Why is everyone saying this is End Times?

Story progressing.
Plot planets being blown up
SM factions being nearly wiped out
Primarch returns
End times Eldar god arrives.

Etc etc
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>>51561588
Rumors that came out just before the girlyman leaks said:
"1. the bolt pistol may belong to Cypher
2. three books for gathering storms series
3. each book will have a trio of characters
4. last book is called the rise of legend/Primarch?, which obviously include a Primarch
5. last trio of characters will be: Grandpa Smurf, Cypher and a Grey Knight Master
6. then 8th edition
7. Abaddon is likely to be killed during the last book, possible he is killed by a bolt pistol
8. dwarf release and gryph hound release should still be there, but the focus is to finish off gathering storm series and launch 8th edition"
Given that 2,3,4 and 5 all turned out to be true, it doesn't look good for the armless failure.
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Okay so they launch 8th ed whats the first codex they release
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>>51561740
#Ask GW
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>>51561740
some flavor of marine or loyalist, same as any edition.
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>>51561740

Orks so they can carefully test the waters and then completely abandon their previous idea of power level with the following space Marine Codex
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>>51561740
Orks Orks Orks Orks
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>>51561788
Yes
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>>51561778
>same as any edition
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>>51561788
Thank god, i mean what else are NPC factions good for? they should be used to boost the power level of the main faction which is the Imperium of course
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>>51561699
Again, how does any of that mean end times?
Why can't new planets become plot planets? Aren't there millions?
Why can't there be more SM? Were they all on Cadia? Can't more be made? Can't conditions be changed for more to be made?
Why do Primarchs or Eldar Gods matter? Other factions have warbosses and gods too.

It really seems like people think any sort of change is end times, and they have no creative imagination to think of how else the plot could continue indefinitely.
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>>51561850
>Warbosses and gods
Your first mistake was putting an Eldar God on the same tier as a Primarch. Primarchs are way above that tier.

Your second mistake was implying a 'Warboss' or 'God' could match a Primarch.
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>>51561850
>how does any of that mean end times?
Because people want it to.
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>>51561690
FOR HE IS THE QUIZNOS SUBMARINE
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>>51561880
Well, most of them are dead or lost so they can't be that powerful.
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>>51561893
Primarchs can only be killed by Primarchs or the Emperor unless they let themselves die. They're the ultiamte beings even just one Primarch is stronger and more important thaneldar gods so they had to ressurect him to save their weak xenos asses
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>>51561706
>Abaddon is likely to be killed during the last book, possible he is killed by a bolt pistol
Top Kek
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>Eldar hate him, Chaos fears him!
Robbie's awright.
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>>51561706
Abaddon will trip on the stairs trying to reach the emperor, and the weight of his armor will snap his neck.

The stair step will then be decked in purity seals.
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>>51561840

Space Marines were always released with the following edition in mind, which is why they were the last Codex released before the edition change for every edition except 7th. Look
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>>51561788
DEELTE THIS
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>>51558525
I've played a few games with Straken so far and I'm not really sure how to use him. So far I've had him in a Chimera, but every time I've hopped out in preparation for an assault, he got mowed down. Not really sure how to get him into close combat without him dying first. There's also the matter of if he can even give out his 6 inch bubble of Furious Charge/Counter-Attack if he's in a transport since technically he doesn't count as being in the transport.

I sort of want to try keeping him hidden behind cover/out of LoS and issuing orders until something gets close. But that also sounds like a good way for him to get shot to pieces just the same.

I miss when you could assault out of a transport that didn't move in the movement phase.
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>>51561840
> tfw Tyranid player
> No Codex, no decurion, just tons of formations with Warrior or bad MC taxes
> Our only great unit will get nerfed whenever we do get a new 'dex.

Why live?
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>>51561990
And 5th.. and 6th.
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>>51558732
>>51558707
caveat: is pask tagged with the Character subtype. If he is, then feel free to slap them arcana mechaniucm on him, if not, then he can't take them
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>>51562022
Oops, I meant not technically on the table*
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>>51558607
>He is going to make SUCH a good Chaos Space Marine Lord or Daemon Prince.

way too much work to turn that into a deamon prince just buy the new ones gw is pumping out
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>>51561840
Odd that they have the release of 3rd Ed. wrong even though they split 1998 in order to accommodate it.
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>>51561706
this sounds like someone saw the white dwarf then added some speculation to make their guesses seem more legit. too close to the leak
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>>51562085
But anon according to others it only requires minimum conversion that should only take an hour tops
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>>51561880
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>>51562039
Anon we did get a new codex its called GSC
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>>51561740
CSM
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>>51562087
That's what you get for doing spreadsheets at 3 AM.
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>>51562115
If that anon could do it, stream it on twitch, and complete it in an hour, I would pay money for that.
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>>51562166
An hour's active work perhaps, but planning, cleaning sprue, brute assembly selecting bits, curing time will add a lot.
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what are the odds that gulliman is just a head or just a torso+head?
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>>51562191
the only way to get most of that detail off WITHOUT seriously maiming the figure is with a dremel, and that could easily take an hour on its own (even if you're good with one), ignoring any further converting you'd have to do to make it actually look like a chaos figure.
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Gonna be shit posting this in the next general too.

Get fucked you stupid cock gobblers who insisted Yvraine was Malys because she had a fucking fan. Eat a fat fucking dick you over reacting shit bags who said Eldar were getting merged in general. Kill yourself.
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>>51562254
Nah, i have a small very sharp chisel/planer for scraping.

Woodworking craft tools have loads of great gems for plastic work.
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>>51562227
slim, but with enough high tech augments he'll be okay
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>>51562254
The only things you really need to get rid of are the blatantly ultramarine parts. Swap out the shoulderpads, scrape off the U on his knee, and you've basically got 99% of the work done. Give him a Chaos head and boom, you've got a Chaos-y jumbo space marine counts as Daemon Prince thing.
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>>51562374
>The only things you really need to get rid of are the blatantly ultramarine parts
and all the aquilas
and all the halos
and all the cruxes
and all the scrollwork
the purity seals too if you want it to actually look good rather than "no really they're IMpurity seals lol"

It's absolutely possible, but it is not a one hour chop shop job.
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>>51561740
a 6th edition codex or maybe SoB (it was rumored they will come back this summer)
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>>51562374
I mean the shoulder pads are probably part of the arms.
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>>51562434
Of those, you only have a real point with the halo and the purity seals.

People are already joking about how Tzeentch it looks. Being covered with birds and scrolls isn't exactly a big obstacle.
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>>51562297

>implying the Aeldari™, Druhkari™, and Haerlaequeni™ aren't getting rolled into the Ynnari™ by only updating the Ynnari™ rules.

Aren't you excited to buy those Aeldari™ and Druhkari™ models you never had so you can have fun playing Ynnari™ with the amazing detailed Yvraine™, Yncarne™, and Visarch™ models!
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>>51562449
>SoB getting anything
>Specially after IA and FoC

Anon please stop.
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>>51562449

Sisters won't see anything until next year because GW finally understand people actually want them since Veridyan and Immolators sold so hard.
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>>51562531
Rumours are that because Triumvirate of the Imperium was so succesful, they are hurrying Adeptus Sororitas along. It might take a year but they are releasing them.
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>>51562529

A) I already own all 3 armies so no buying new stuff for me (if you're buying new stuff during the 40k ET you're a moron anyway).

B) You got BTFO - oh Yvraine is Malys, she has a fan. You cock gobbling retard.
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>people thing Wraiths aren't allowed in Ynnari
>new Wraith Bundle formation for preorder
>currently sold out at

Prepare your anus everybody. Soul bursting D-Scythes on the way!
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>>51558607
What if the swirls on the armor were painted green like the laurels?
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>>51558901
Yep
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Guess I'll start makin a new genny
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>>51562623
Yup
>Striding unstoppably forward comes the Whispering Ghost Hall. A gathering of wraith constructs like no other, its ranks are wreathed by a mass of phantoms that howl and wail with bone-chilling intensity. Unlike the ghost warriors of the craftworlds, the undying soldiers that fight for Yvraine have had their souls permanently transferred into their wraithbone shells, returning them to the dark and deadly purpose they possessed when still alive. Such is the power Ynnead has over the spirit world – even long-dead Eldar are given life anew, the better to slay the enemies of their race.
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>>51562562

Less nuns and more Cheerish Sailor Celestine

because guilliman would prefer the later instead of crazy nuns
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>>51562751
>aeldari
>characters who was consumed by Ynnead
kek
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>>51562562
More so Veridyan. But yeah.
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>>51562762
I think guilliman would rather have normal soldiers than rabid zealots.

he probably thinks the scions are cool
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>>51562778

I wonder how Rowboat feels about Celestine considering she's been more or less confirmed to be an imperial Daemon.
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just got back from doing 1100 points against dark angels with commorrite eldar
>t1 try for night fighting, fail
>try and seize, succeed
>he scouts in his bike squad and assault bike
>blow up one of his bikes, wound his commander and put a wound on his assault bike
>his turn, ramps in and starts blasting, I take a wound to my talos
>turn 2, mishap my reaver squad in, he deploys them near my entrance instead of in his deployment zone
>twin-linked rapid-fire 20 splinter rifle shots, another 18 rapid-fire splinter rifles, and 2 dark lance shots into his bike squad
>he fucking saves ALL of them
>shoot into his assault bike squad and bike librarian HQ, kill them
>he then deepstrikes 2 termie squads and a librarian into the middle of all my skimmers
>manage to pass my jink saves
>my turn, disembark my archon, bring my reavers to bear
>wipe out a bunch of his termies, talos his bike squad finally, and try to reaver hammer of wrath his terminator captain squad
>lolnope, makes his saves, wipes out half my bike squad
>fail hit and run
>my archon goes in to fight his librarian, annihilates him
>all he has left in the bottom of turn 3 is a squad of 1 terminator, a squad of 2 terminator ...champion squad?, a squad of 2 marines and a squad of 5 marines(both of whom are in talos range)
>I have all my squads left: reavers (fleeing with 1 member left), 1 talos(2W left), my archon(3W left), 1 raider(10 kabalites)(3HP), 1 raider(9 kabalites)(2 HP), and 1 ravager(3HP)
>top of turn 4 he concedes

Do dark eldar start to suck after 1500 points? Because it feels like with how much dakka they drop, unless I'm against like...necrons or blood angels, I just wipe the floor with everything I go against.
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>>51562754
So Yneead Wraith units are just literally Eldar reincarnated into the Wraith constructs?
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>>51562809
He's got her halo on, so whatever his personal feelings are he's just going to deal with it and get the important things out of the way first.

I hate that we have to wait a fucking month to see any more of this book.
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>>51562434
Sloppy chopjob, way easier with a actual physical model.
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>>51562851
Are eldar always screaming and howling in agony?
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>>51562851
Naw, reincarnated literally means means returned to flesh.
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>>51558525
You could be here
>>51562876
>>
So not having played since 5e, with the focus on smaller point armies and Calgar losing his ability to choose morale test results army wide, do his new abilities justify his point cost if you're using mass drop pods with 2 sternguard squds or are you better off with a cheaper HQ and more marines?

Before anyone points out 5e Ultramarines idgaf about the terrible fluff, I got them for models and crunch
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>order Veridyan, 2 immolators, and a HFlamer as soon as they're available
>go through LGS because I like supporting him
>its a month
>all 3 are still sold out
>cant even call GW about it
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>>51558707

holy crap,
that would mean I could give Pask in his Punisher the Skyfire rule.

oh boy oh boy
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>>51562864
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>>51562861

>TIl celestine gives the halo as a way to keep him alive, Guilliman accepts it because

>i spend 10000 years sleeping in the darkness, and father finally decides to give us a Sister, even if is a warp entity

or Guilliman is Goku and he felt the 10000 years of turmoil all thanks to his latent psyker powers duing the time where he was in stasis
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>>51562973
no, it's cawl and the eldar who revive him
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>>51559796

your question will be answered here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKoEH2R9z90
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>>51563004
we still don't know what cawl and the eldar did to bring him back
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>>51563063
xenos magic. it's spelled out pretty clearly.
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>>51562434
Just green stuff tentacles all around him and have them cover the questionable parts, he's Tzeentch enough as it is.
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>>51563191
Pleb please...
see
>>51560703
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>>51563309
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>>51563685
topkek
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>>51563122


>Celestine gives up her powers to save guilliman, thus her halo on his armor
>Ends up anchored on mortal plane, but she still the holy saint, and it will take some time until she can recharge her powers
>Celestine becomes Guilliman's "sister", as the mighty Caesar is impressed by his father finally giving something that He, Malcador and Dorn asked for a long time
>All of them proceeds to travel to Terra with Ventris giving a 1010 events of the imperium since he and
>>
Why gw Insist on making melee relics for guard or pistol relics in general. Only good pistol i can remember is nanyte blaster from 30k. Literally half of guard relics are cqw or pistols.
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