Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1323: Numerical Calibration Edition.

>>51535690
Like 3-4 out of several billions humans are those strongest. It's not semantics to say they're not especially strong when 99.999% or whatever of all humans do not portray anywhere near that power.

Krillin settled down eventually, why would he need to continue training more then necessary? I don't think Piccolo peaked so much as his fight opponents were rising in power way faster then he was training and he doesn't seem to fight much past a certain point either.

>>51535710
Yes, I'm aware. When did I deny that? My point is that humans aren't notably stronger or innately advantaged. There's certainly strong humans but the race as a whole is not innately the most powerful one in the universe or close to it. There's also the fact that Olibu is anime only and thus not really canon which detracts quite a bit.

>>51535711
Indeed and if they then put in the training, they can get strong too. Humans are just not innately advantaged over other races in regards to ki stuff.

>>51535726
When I checked, it seemed like they could train. 18 at least seems capable of growing stronger. I imagine that 17 is going to be shown to have done the same in the upcoming Super arc, if he's going to do anything but just die instantly.

>>51535728
Noted where?

>>51535737
It's what happens in the second version of the OVA. I don't believe it's come up yet in multiverse.

>>51535655
Olibu is kinda filler though.

>>51535724
We've had literally hundreds of DBZ quests.
most die early from lack of interest and hack writing, but DBZ Human Quest went pretty far.
I didn't read the whole thing, but it was kind of interesting and not awful. Olibu made appearances and his existence was kind of the excuse for humans to be relevant.

>>51535778
It's just notable when you have people like the Ginyu force run around talking about how they're only as powerful as they are because they're mutants and such. Makes it seem like other races can't/don't train to higher power levels like some humans do.

>>51535819
And Burter said he was the fastest guy in the universe despite working alongside multiple people he knew was way stronger and thus way faster. I'm not really keen on taking those guys words as gospel when they generally seem stupid, arrogant or just plain unaware of some obvious stuff.

Anyone else have trouble deciding when to take Jumps?

>>51535737
>Is the Ghost Warriors stay dead if they are killed in a similar manner to the original from the Novel version? I don't remember it from the comic.
The perk appears to be based on the version from the OVA, which is completely different from the one in the webcomic since the author decided to rewrite some stuff when taking material from outside of the main DBZ series (such as the OVA).

Actually it seems to be a mixture of the two since the perk also has stuff from comic version too, kind of weird.

>>51535841
That's why I don't have a solid jump order

>>51535841
Yes, I wanted to take my chain slow since I imagine a real jumper would do that for safety reasons but there aren't all that many low power/danger jumps that interest me.

>>51535856
If Solars was out I'd probably take it as one of my first five jumps.

>>51535841
I pick out a couple that I want to jump in general and then roll through them.
If for some reason I don't want what I rolled at that time I take it off the list since It shouldn't have been on there in the first place.
It takes a while, but I end up where I really wanted to be after it's done.

>>51535842
It's not really different? As far as I'm aware, the only 'differences' are that the comic hasn't yet shown whether they still have the permakill feature or not. The option is weaker then the comics version, which just takes ghosts from everyone that dies around the item whether it's by your hand or not, but that wouldn't have been offered. I thought making it into an innate ability instead of a big ass sphere would make up for the difference some.

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Howdy /JC I've been working on Jump builds for a bit, annoyingly the current chain ended on a nat 100 at a bad moment. Ah well next build!

>>51535778
Yo Val

>>51535797
> DBZ Human Quest
Huh I'd read it. But then again Mortal Heroes Gauntlet and all that.

As for Multiverse I kinda wanna be a Human Gag Character and just win because of weird stuff. I believer I've either stolen this desire from some anon or already said this at some point though.

>>51535867
How slow? We have quite a few (Atleast eight) low powered Jumps were you could build up power easily.

>>51535841
Currently planning on a fate/ arc that will roughly go Fate/Zero -> Fate/Stay Night -> Fate/Extra (Maybe) -> More fate stuff. The big issue is that my jumper is slowly getting to powerlevels where JUMPER might actually have a shot at killing me so I have to pick jumps that don't give me lethal powers or low power jumps

>>51535841
Yes. All the time.
I start off with low level stuff, before moving up to more high-powered settings.
And if there's 2 or more jumps in the same setting? I take them back to back.

Still doesn't make it easy to decide exactly what I want to do.

I don't know what you guys are talking about. The obvious reason for why people take Cell and Buu is because they're the sexiest races.

>>51535819
He just want to be special

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V7b7rSeY-ZA

>>51535895
>How slow?
Very slow, basically I want to amass power slowly while taking minimal risks. It is harder than it sounds since playing it safe makes obtaining the power my cautious and paranoid jumper needs to move into more powerful jumps confidently are hard to get in lower power jumps.

Most of the solutions I have found for this problem are to just take a high power jump with a survival based build but that defeats the purpose.

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S:TAS 1.2 is a go.

Changelog:

Clarified that super powers do not receive discounts.

Clarified that Fine Control works on all powers, not just "super powers".

Buffed pretty much all of the import companion options.

Clarified that The Jumpers get more CP for each member when you spend CP on them.

Added a The Multiversity reference.

Added a new 400 CP drawback.

Provisionally added a drawback limit of three drawbacks (not including the drawback incurred from being a Hero or Villain). Not to sure on this number and would like to get the right balance on it.

>>51535835
>And Burter said he was the fastest guy in the universe despite working alongside multiple people he knew was way stronger and thus way faste
Contrary to Team Four Star's joke specialization is a thing in Dragonball
Someone with a lower power level can be faster, even MUCH faster, than someone with a higher power level. They just suffer in other areas.
The Ginyu Force only knew about Freiza's first transformation, not about his second or his Final Form. As far as Burter was aware he WAS the fastest in the universe.

>>51535885
The original Ghost Warriors reform instantly unless they are killed in a similar manner as the original.

The Webcomic versions are weaker in that they lack this immunity but they seem to come back just fine if they are killed.

>>51535954
Drawback limits are for shitbags.

>>51535934
>they're the sexiest races.
>Cell
Eh.
>Buu
That majin lady is a cute.

>>51535943
You can easily do that with the existing array of low power jumps. There's enough of them to get up to five centuries or so of experience.

>>51535958
>Guldo

>>51535885
>I thought making it into an innate ability instead of a big ass sphere would make up for the difference some.
But if it is inside me that means that I can't upgrade it to solve the bug that makes it only work if I kill them!

>>51535958
But Goku was faster then Burter. Sure, specialisation is a thing, but Goku wasn't specialised for speed, and he was still faster. Presumably, Frieza would be as well.

>>51533001
>Generic Post-Apocalypse Jump question.
>Eye in the Sky.
>Does the satellite actually exist in the jump (or later jumps)
>I mean it IS 400 CP.
>I wan to pay 50 CP to choose the settings and make it the after the end setting planet of MST3K, and take the Eye in the Sky, which is Mike Nelson on the Satellite of Love.

That sounds cool to me?
I've always imagined it as not-a-real-satellite. As in, it doesn't really exist in the sky. It's an intangible thing that watches you _as though_ it was a satellite, contacts you _as though_ there was someone in a bunker trying to relay comms to you, but isn't really. It's a perk. Because not necessarily every post-apocalypse will have satellites (maybe in a divine post-apoc it's actually a watching angel?), and that would limit its usefulness if you went from one world to another.

If you want to fluff it being a real satellite, that there really is someone watching you from it, or on a screen in a bunker, that's cool. But the thing is the perk is not a habitat or a home, so you shouldn't be actually going to it and treating it as a place.

>>51535958
Yeah, sorry, but if you're wanting me to believe Burter was honestly faster then Ginyu or even first form Frieza, you'll need to prove it.

>>51535959
The webcomic ones reform instantly too. It happened multiple times in the flashback when they fought Hirudegarn.

>>51535982
What a pity.

>>51535954
The Sixty Four drawback seems...incomplete? It tells you about where you've arrived, but not about anyway to escape, or if you're just stuck there for ten years.

>>51535996
Sounds like he got the tone of the game just right.

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Good news, not dead just hurt. Really really hurt.

>>51535943
I'm halping!
1. Run a Mortal Hero Gauntlet (Just to get a taste of it and maybe some neat stuff, also my hunger for builds is stupid high)
2. Hollywood for some Charisma
3. Some Filler (Ace Attorney, Aria, Anno 2070, etc)
4. Alice in Wonderland/Through the Looking Glass (These are neat, low power, and Red Queen 'teleport' is neat.)

>>51535958
One of the biggest indicators of this post-DB was Super Trunks vs. Perfect Cell. Trunks WAS at an equal or greater power level, but he had made himself too heavy and slow and thus the technically weaker Perfect Cell kicked his ass due to being much faster.

>>51536001
...oh. Son of a bitch, I didn't even catch that. I thought it was just supposed to be some eldritch hell hole from the show.

>>51535958
Guys. Guys, BEERUS AND WHIS

>>51536019
Nobody except Kais know those two exist.

>>51536019
Appeared in Multiverse at one point, yeah.

>>51536004
Reposted from last thread.

Question about Minish Cap:
Does 'Read the Guide' render 'The Importance of Placement' useless?

I would imagine that a mental strategy guide would include the location of traps and the solution to puzzles.

>>51536023
Or Cold or Frieza. Or Vegeta and presumably any Saiyan close to the royalty.

>>51535961
So you like them?

>>51536023
What are you talking about? Beerus at least is very well known from what we've seen, with King Cold, Frieza, and King Vegeta being well aware of who they are.

>>51536019
Part of me wants to argue the meta argument, but I can't because I hate people who argue the meta argument.

>>51536023
You're just wrong. Beerus stepped on King Vegeta's head in his own throne room for fuck sake.

>>51536023
I thought Frieza basically shat a brick when they met in RoF

>>51536032
I'm talking about at the time of Namek Saga, dude. When Burter made his boast.

>>51536040
who he is*

>>51536049
He's the God of Destruction who regularly goes around blowing up planets because that's his job. He'd be pretty well known in-universe.

>>51536018
You know it would have been pretty cool if Superman 64 was some kind of eldrich alternate dimension in STAS.
Could have had an episode where Luthor traps Superman and friends in there or something.
It would have been meta as hell, but if played totally straight I think it could have worked.

>>51536049
All the characters I mentioned would have met him by then or have become known of him by then. If you're talking in a meta sense, not even the kais would know of him because he wasn't written in yet.

>>51536059
I thought he had been asleep for x amount of time by the time the series started.

>>51536032
>>51536040
>>51536059
Isn't Jaco aware of him too? That'd definitely give credence to him being well known on a universal level.

>>51535992
>The webcomic ones reform instantly too. It happened multiple times in the flashback when they fought Hirudegarn.
Only three die in that, a two nameless Saiyans and Goku/Raditz mom. none of whom we see again in that side story.

>>51536071
Well, he showed up in King Vegeta's throne room a short while before Frieza blew it up. So he hasn't been asleep for THAT long. Plus, this >>51536077. Jaco knew who Beerus was, and asked for Bulma to take a picture with Beerus in the background and Jaco in the front, because Beerus is that well known.

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>>51536030
Not really. Having a guide telling you about stuff is nice and all, but the Importance of Placement might be more useful if you expand what your definition of puzzles and traps is. It's ten minutes of observation on an instinctive trapsense, kind of a surprise negotiator to use loose terms (Yes it helps get you out of puzzles and traps that even would surprise the guide It's helpful even when the guide isn't.).

>>51536091
I'm pretty sure we directly see several got pierced and then just reform after being hit.

>>51536071
Again. Not long enough for Frieza to have forgotten about him.

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>>51536019
Beerus a cute.

>>51536059
Meta Argument.

>>51536071
He went to sleep around the time Goku was born.

>>51536113
Plus King Cold directly told Frieza "Don't fuck with Majin Buu or Beerus, they will end you." Of course, the former doesn't hold much ground since Frieza surpassed him in a matter of months, but...

>>51536107
There are 4 ghost Saiyans in that chapter, three of them die and they are not seen again in the chapter. I am looking at it now.

Reminder that the Gods of Destruction and the Omni-King are evil and you should probably find a way to stop them if such a way presents itself in DBZ or otherwise travel to a universe that allows you to get up to 'casually blowing up multiple universes at once' level.

>>51536134
>since Frieza surpassed him in a matter of months,
It's implied no one in space actually trains, they just rely on their natural strength.

>>51536144
They are living engines of Entropy. Entropy is not evil. Is the way some of them, like Beerus, go about it Evil? Yes, but the act of being an agent of Entropy is in and of itself not evil. Everything dies anon.

>>51536142
If you say so.

>>51536130
Meta-how is that meta?! That's giving a perfectly good reason why he'd be known in-universe! Besides which, we've already proven people still know about him since Jaco knew about him in RoF.

>>51536144
Reminder that the Omni-King casually obliterated twelve universes. You're not fighting him until post-spark.

>>51536130
>"Lord Beerus! I feel a Main Character is about to be born!"
>"Can't be bothered dealing with it, takin' a nap."

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Super_Saiyan_Rage

Apparently, you don't even need the convoluted bullshit of achieving SSG, since Trunks here manages to fight against the Super Sayain Rose (aka the bad guy's Bluper Sayain form) just from being that ungodly pissed. It probably doesn't have god ki though.

>>51536157
I made a mistake, I meant to link to >>51536049

>>51536159
He went to sleep because the Oracle Fish told him about the Super Saiyan God.

>>51536152
>Entropy is not evil.
This is where you're wrong.

>>51536157
>You're not fighting him until post-spark.
No shit.

>>51536077
Jaco is as aware of Beerus as you are of God. You know of Him but He's just a mythological being belonging to an old religion.

>>51536181
>I made a mistake
Oh, my bad. Shouldn't have snapped at you like that, especially if it was just a mis-link,

>>51536183
>Entropy is evil
It's a natural part of the universe, that's like saying gravity is evil, or time is evil.

>>51536183
So thermodynamics is evil now?

>>51536205
Proof?

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>>51536183
>Thinking a natural part of existence is Evil
Oh, hello Bancho

>>51536205
He asked for Bulma to take a picture of him with Beerus in the background. That's not how most people would react to seeing God, that's how most people would react to seeing a celebrity or national leader.

>>51536209
>>51536212
>>51536219
>Thinking the wanton destruction of life isn't evil.

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>>51535934
Gotta admit-if I WERE choosing my race based solely on sexiness, I'd like to see if it's possible to be a Pillar Man-Buu instead of a blob or a cute girl.

>>51536107
Say Val, if you have a perk like [MELODY] that lets you tap into cartoon physics with comedic timing and access to energy like [STARLIGHT] that lets you empower it, can you theoretically use that to enhance your Gag World powerlevel (gaglevel) by injecting yourself with it?

Also what do senzu beans taste like? Do they lose their properties if cooked? Would they go better as a bean soup, or a sticky bean bun?

>>51536172
>Get so pissed you can outpunch god

>>51536104
Oh right, also since the Importance of Placement would take your own abilities into account it could help where the Guide couldn't, since the guide would just tell you about the trap and how to solve it the in context way which you may not be able to do. The Importance of Placement could give you an OOC solution that incorporates your abilities since it is your own analysis of the trap/puzzle.

Did I get that right?

>>51536209
It's cool dude.

>>51536216
Jaco laughs at Bulma for thinking Beerus is real, until he actually sees Beerus. Everyone else seems to know he's real though.

>>51536223
Oddly enough he doesn't act as though Beerus is an actual god, and more just a myth.

>>51536157
>Reminder that the Omni-King casually obliterated twelve universes. You're not fighting him until post-spark.

A stint in General Xianxia for several Aeons will make you able to take him on one handed.

>>51536216
watch the Resurrection F movie (give me 20 minutes to download it and find the scene). He specifically states that Beerus is from an old religion.

>>51536223
Bullshit, in today's society a normal person would ask for a selfie with god.

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>>51536229
>I'd like to see if it's possible to be a Pillar Man-Buu
Here you go.

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>>51536243
Yep.

>>51536227
You said entropy is evil. That really doesn't make any sense.
I can understand not liking it, but really now it's no more evil than up or relative space.

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>>51536229
>>51536258
But maybe this is more your speed.

>>51536227
Life would suck if nothing died.

>>51536229
If those perks work on any form of cartoon physics, sure whatever. If they're specific to each other or just one series, no.

No idea what the taste like, lima beans I assume. They've never been cooked to my knowledge. This is generally stuff you can find by using something called a wiki.

>>51536261
When entropy is a thinking person I can punch it in the face for killing people, alright? And when their boss kills entire universes of people just because he wants to, then I AM going to punch him in the face.

>>51536172
How many super saiyan forms are we at now?

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>>51536268
I like how Super Buu seemed to be a stupid brute at first, but then turned out to be actually very intelligent. Though I was disappointed by how he just became a less entertaining Cell once he absorbed Gohan.

>>51536283
Are we counting GT? If so, that's...eight, I believe, nine if we count Super Saiyan Blue with Kaioken, ten if you count False Super Saiyan.

>>51536283
If you don't count filler I think we're at 7ish.
If you do count filler and full power versions than about 2 dozen.

>>51536285
Super Buu definitely isn't very adult in mindset. He's kinda like a caveman. He's not stupid, but he is pretty primitive and impulsive. He's still actually clever and wily though.

Once he absorbs Piccolo he genuinely becomes extremely intelligent, though.

>>51536229
>Also what do senzu beans taste like? Do they lose their properties if cooked? Would they go better as a bean soup, or a sticky bean bun?
From the wiki:
Their texture is said to be a cross between an uncooked (or under ripe) bean and a celery stalk, and Yajirobe states that Senzu Beans taste like fish.

>>51536260
Do they synergize? I Imagine if it could incorporate information I got from the Guide into the analysis it would be even more effective.

>>51536275
Feel free to punch them for being cunts about it, but don't claim that Entropy is in and of itself evil.

>>51535954
>Not to sure on this number and would like to get the right balance on it.
Don't go by the number of drawbacks, go by CP gain, like a limit of 1,000 CP gained from drawbacks.

>>51536229
Zen Buu (Universe 4 Buu) is basically a muscular Super Buu. Not quite Pillar Man muscular but pretty buff.

>>51536285
At least Gohan absorbed isn't the final boss, the weaker kid buu version is, which is a pretty big twist. Though kid buu is his own thing, he's less interesting than super buu because he's just insane.

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>>51536308
Oh yeah ten minutes with a manual is a lot longer amount of time than just looking it over whilst playing the yeh? Remember though it only works on puzzles and traps.

>>51536337
Eh, Kid Buu was at least fun to watch. He was so insane and had so much energy that it was a blast to see him fight, even if he didn't have any character or any real goal besides "INSANE DESTROY LAUGH LIKE A HYENA".

>>51536154
Have to agree with that anon Val. By the end of the fight with Hirudegarn, Radditz is the last ghost standing.

>>51536402
Sorry, let me make that post clearer. I don't give a shit beyond that post because it does not matter. Whatever way you want to wank it, do that, because I don't care about a minor detail like that.

>>51535929
>And if there's 2 or more jumps in the same setting? I take them back to back.
Hmm I might do that with Bayonetta and the Devi May Cry.

>>51536416
Eh, I don't even care. Just wanted to offer my own two cents since I've read the comic twice this week.

>>51535778
Who's your favorite character?

Hell, who is everyone's favorite Dragon Ball character?

>>51536465
Either Mr. Satan or Beerus.

>>51536465
Dragon ball/Z, the original series, doesn't have very good characters honestly.

I'd probably go with Frieza, since they're the most fun to watch. Abridged and Multiverse both make many of the characters much more interesting and fun to watch I find.

>>51536465
Piccolo.

>>51536465
Gotta be Vegeta. Guy has just had so much raw character growth since his introduction, going from out and out villain to someone who is now a better person than Goku our "hero".

Krillen, Mr.Satan, Beerus, and Piccolo are all up there though.
18 is Best Girl, Videl is a close second.

>>51536297
How many could cell utilise, what with that Saiyan DNA?

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>>51536465
It feels kinda foolish but I like Videll and Pan just for having neat characters I guess, don't really know why.

>>51536465
>Dragon Ball
Yamcha
>Dragon Ball Z
Goku
>Dragon Ball Super
Vados. 10/10 waifu
>Best Bulma
Mid-Late Dragon Ball with episode 1's hair

>>51536529
Pan is a sweetheart.

>>51536525
He never uses any. Cell does his own thing with the transformations.

>>51536465
Yamcha is my favorite Dragonball character even if he got hit with the useless bat.
At least he makes up for it in the fighting games with infinites.

Other series are too hard to decide on though.

>>51536525
He sort of uses the normal Super Saiyan form, though it is hard to tell do to the lack of hair.

>>51536536
>>51536529
Whenever I think of Pan I wonder if they forgot Bra. Though apparently the latest Super has Bulma pregnant, so someone must've reminded Toriyama.

>>51535954
>Clarified that The Jumpers get more CP for each member when you spend CP on them.
How about letting CP spent to buff companions buff them all at the same time. (So that 200CP would also give 400 CP to the budgets of any Interns, Good, Bad, or Ugly you may have bought. Or give Canon Companion characters you spent CP on a CP budget once they join you)

The Fortress of Solitude. Some versions have a kryptionian technology database, and in some Jor-El does not send that along, but is nearly always has a Kryptonian Cultural Database (Archive of Krypton's History, music, art, etc)
I hope this comes with that.
You might want to specify you get a new sunstone when the old one is used.

>>51536562
>someone must've reminded Toriyama.
That's exactly why she wasn't around yet.
Toriyama is on record as saying he forgot Yamcha was a character he made. Yamcha, the guy who has been a major character since early on in Dragon ball.

Toriyama is a man of many many wonderful ideas, but he is quick to forget this, and has many many terrible ideas. Luckily unlike OTHER famous authors, he has people with enough backbone to smack him when he's being stupid.

>>51536525
His Super Perfect Cell form gets an aura resembling SSJ2, so it's not out of bounds to say he can get at least some of them, or his own close equivalent. That's entirely up to you though.

>>51536586
I'm just glad it's been fixed, even if it swaps around her and Pan's ages. I feel kinda bad about a character being retconned or not existing anymore.

>>51536421
>Bayonetta
what multiple jumps do we have for that?

>>51536488
Just want to say thanks for the jump. It's awesome.

>>51536586
I though I heard something about him forgetting about Piccolo too?

>>51536465

Probably Piccolo, he's always been such a cool character even if he falls off later, and he is clearly best dad.

>>51536603
DmC and Bayonetta kind of sort of exist in the same universe.
It's jump canon at the very least even if Capcom won't play ball.

>>51536532
>Yamcha
Most fucked over Z warrior

Apparently in Super's newest arc, ten of the mainline universes strongest fighters are recruited to to fight in the tournament. Roshi gets in, but not Yamcha. He's weaker than his old master now.

>>51536615
I haven't heard about that, but I wouldn't doubt it.

>>51536556
If his tail wasn't dangling around his feet we can assume he wasn't Super Perfect 3 and since he didn't have any electricity he wasn't Super Perfect 2.

Logic would dictate he was only Super Perfect 1.

>>51536537
>>51536556
>>51536587
So would it be fair to say that, in the long run, super ultra special Saiyan forms will end up being more 'powerful'/stronger than Cell?

I'm not incredibly well versed in DBS, but as I understand it, becoming Super Sayain [insert code name here] is sort of the writers hand wave to let the characters get arbitrarily strong when they're going up against an enemy that would otherwise dwarf them.

>>51536603
Bayonetta and Devil May Cry are in the same setting (I think).

>>51536615

I dunno about forgetting Piccolo or Yamcha, but he completely forgot about Launch. She was there in Dragon Ball, and then in DBZ she's just gone, for good, unlike Piccolo or Yamcha.

>>51536465
I'm only familiar with DBZ, so I'll have to say either Goku or Krillin.
Goku because when I was watching the dubbed show on Toonami at age 5 he was a total goofball badass who said shit like 'I am the enemy of evil!' and that stuff sort of sticks with you at that age.

Krillin because he was kind of a smart-ass and was never afraid to go up against guys who could mop the floor with him ten times over. And that's respectable.

>>51536630
Which isn't a criticism of DBS, btw. It's part of what lets the series hit the notes it's trying to hit.

>>51536628

He had electricity at one point though.

>>51536630
No. Didn't my post point out that Cell gets his own equivalents? There's nothing stopping you from thinking the monster that's probably around half saiyan can achieve higher SSJ forms, or the guy who has Freeza's DNA can go Golden. There's nothing saying he can't.

I mean hell, Trunks achieves a form more powerful than SSG and almost up to SSGSS level just from being PISSED, despite not having god ki or being a full saiyan.

>>51536617
>DmC and Bayonetta kind of sort of exist in the same universe.
>>51536637
>Bayonetta and Devil May Cry are in the same setting (I think).

One of the items in Bayonetta implies that its the same world because it mentions Eva and Sparta

>>51536660
*DBZ. Ugh. Damn autocorrect twice in a row.

>>51536628
Super Perfect Cell does have the SSJ2 aura, electricity and everything.

>>51536615
He forgot about Piccolo during a fan interview.

Jumpers when rolling do roll first and then decide to pay to pick if you don't like your roll?

>>51536711
I thought that was how you were supposed to do it.

>>51536690
>>51536664
I was making a joke but I'm like 99% sure that "Super Perfect" was classified as just a zenkai boost and the aura was just from how excessive his power had become.

>>51536711
I roll and pay if I don't like the roll.

>>51536711
Yup. If the roll is terrible I pay for what I want.
In-practice I almost never pay, because I don't care about the result of most rolls.

Whats a good jump that you like but nobody ever talks about?

>>51536825
Mage the Awakening. Who cares about magic when you can get the equivalent of $10,000,000 USD a month for the rest of time.

>>51536825
i find the infinicon one quite funny(and surprisingly useful)

>>51536868
That may be because money is so easy to come by in jumpchain, at the very least precious metals are.

Arpeggio of Blue Steel, Politician Perks
http://pastebin.com/VdHqsJ0y

>>51536825
WOD: Mortals

>>51536912
>Arpeggio of Blue Steel
Will my thirst for boat waifus be quenched yet again? Kancolle wasn't enough!

>>51536877
>infinicon
We've finally come full circle.

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>>51536944
Anon, I could drown you in boatfus and you'd still beg for more.
It is a good death.

>>51536971
I have many 1-Ups and can think of no better use for them.

What's a better plan for a late game jumper with dozens of genetics and self augment perks; stealin-err... acquiring peoples genetics and applying them to himself or paying for Android Cell Race?

>>51536971
One of those boatfus looks like she needs bullying.

>>51536971
So with this are you confirming claims for more jumps?

>>51537058
Not yet. Have to finish what I have already.

>>51536971
who is the cutie under the Velma wanabe?

>>51537120
The white haired girl? That is the MC's Waifu, well actually he has a harem consisting of most of those Boatfus.

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>>51537137
no,not her. I said under not immediately to the left of in the foreground.

>>51537145
Wait do you mean the egg? That is a chair.

>>51537137

He's talking about the fucking egg. Tera has strange tastes that you're better off not thinking about in detail.

>>51537153
But it's got a Digital readout and stuff. I thought it might be an Robot or something. Now I just feel weird from getting attracted to a chair that's even to perverted for me

>>51537145
The egg is a high tech chair/multitool Bancho.

>>51537163
>>51537145
>>51537120
God damn you're so dumb, I can't stop laughing. A fucking chair. Ahaha.

>>51537167
Look, you put something like that next to a bunch of robots and people are going to mistake it for a less human shaped robot.
>>51537176
yeah, I admit, this one was on me

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It's Huuga's 'shell', a vehicle/tool. Very handy.

>>51537185
The girl sitting on it does sometimes stay inside the super chair, interacting with the world only through the various tools she has stuffed in it.

If you wanted to waifu it you could just waifu the girl who spends so much time inside it.

>>51536416
You should remove that stick from your ass. It's making you cranky again.

>>51537224
1.my jumper only has one waifu
2.that's not the same thing at all, I was hoping for more of a Princess X kind of thing where she was the token actually robotic looking one

>>51537218
The holographic display gives me a very Deus Ex HR vibe.

>>51537224
Just a heeads up, banchos tastes are odd. He dislikes pretty and loves ugly, I am not making fun or shitposting you here his name used to be teratophilianon because he has a fetish for disgusting things.

>>51537137
They all look like bimbos anyway desu

>>51537224
3.if I were to do that. It would be Very disrespectful to her since I would be attracted to the chair and not the lady

TeraXchair confirmed NOtp

>>51537401
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OemNp6hgX4

King Kai is the best kai.

>>51537420
Your kaifu is fat.

>>51537428
Your kaifu is probably a wimpy irrelevant loser or buu food.

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>>51536825
Age of Mythology.

>>51536465
Hard to say. I'm in an awkward position where I don't actually like Dragonball but I do like some of the characters.

Beerus is probably my favorite though, if only because of his english dub's Garfield voice.

Jumpers!

How have you changed over time?

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>>51537622
Went from regular human to the spawn of Outer Gods. Among other things.

Not so much, I guess.

>>51537420
Mr popo is best you mean.

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>>51537622
I radicalized, stopped being one Mind,stopped being one organism, Stopped identifying as any one thing Becoming a meta-entity transcendent of traditional notions of spirituality,biology, mineralogy, matter, engineering, astrophysics and mortality. managed to get over a lot of my issues towards a lot of stuff, my issues towards a lot of other stuff got much worse. developed a good chunk of coping mechanisms,tarted planning and the long-term , Started working harder on my relationships.

>>51537675
>implying mr pope is a mere kai

>>51537622
Not all too much, personality wise. I mean sure, I've got a few dozen varieties of ultimate cosmic power, but that doesn't mean I have to suddenly become a whole new person. If I had to quantify my changes though, it would be that I became more outgoing. It's hard for that not to happen, honestly, what with all those charisma perks I've picked up.

As an asshole with perks thar make me count as pure of heart despite being an asshole in what ways can I exploit this for power and or profit?

Val DBM jump is great, but why we need to win to continue jumping ? Maybe we could just get to semi-finals to secure continuity of our jumpchain.

So a question about companions. Even though I don't import them I can still take them with me into a jump?

>>51536488
Can a bio-android pick which stage of Cell their form is based on?

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>>51537622
>

>>51537824
Yeah. They just don't get anything.

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>>51536465
I'd be hard pressed to pick just one. Lots of them are interesting and have fun personalities.

I guess maybe Hercule.
The new dub properly calls him Mr Satan, but he'll always be Hercule to me.

Vegeta's actually a close second, though.

>>51536825
I really like Generic Dungeon Builder.

>>51537420
> Fat dumpy Kai likes to tell bad jokes and ride around in his sports car, incredibly easy to mooch off of.
King Kai is a cute.

>>51537675
Mr Popo's not a Kai. In canon he's a djinn.
Unless you mean in DBZA, in which case, he's a demon god that is closer to, but not quite a majin.

>>51537622
In the beginning I was kindof a lazy wanderer who would try to help people.
One could say that I still do that, but see, the thing is that back then, I didn't do anything else.
There wasn't research or plots or building things or even being casually mean to my companions. I just wandered around and tried to be nice to people. And that was all. I didn't even take center stage, like, ever. I just tried to be supportive. Especially to the people who were traveling with me.
As a jumper, I was positively boring.

I mean, can you imagine? A jumper who doesn't build massive armies or casually blow up cities. Someone who just "wants to help" and "loves her friends".
Hahahaha! As if!

Anyway, now I build megaprojects and robot armies and armories! And I'm always collecting exciting new data, and have huge fortresses to lounge around in!

They feel empty.

>>51537807
I think it is too keep it from being a power grab, unfortunately that means it is wholly blocked off for non combat focused jumpers. Unless they don't want anything from it that is.

>>51537807
You're getting more power for free then almost any other jump offers even at capstone levels. If you want to keep it and not have this be an endjump, there needed to be a balancing factor. This is what I went with.

It's certainly possible, even as a first jump without using the 0cps. But it's very hard and you'll need to go for certain options and act in certain ways.

>>51537853
I guess if you want to look like a certain something sure, but it won't change the power or abilities you have.

>>51537622
I'm a cigarette smoking fight-loving blacksmith who loves his friends and would take on the evils of the world so they don't have to. I love children. Playing with them, taking care of them, and protecting them the mere mention of child abuse sends me into a near rage. I should get a cold fury perk to offset that.

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>>51537860
By the way Konata-not sure if you heard last thread, but just in case: I heard back from Dirge, and he said you can take any character from Dissidia

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>>51537910
I did see! Thanks, Spiral-kun. I appreciate it.

Now I just have to think up shenanigans to get up to with Gilgamesh. Or possibly shenanigans that Gilgamesh will get up to without me. Because he is THE BEST FINAL FANTASY CHARACTER.

>>51537875
I just want to know if you look more monstrous like Imperfect Cell, or more humanoid like Perfect Cell. I know it won't affect power levels.

>>51537872
>non combat focused jumpers
People still pretend such a meme exists?

>>51537860
Demon King Puddin has never been killed in any dragonball.

>>51537875
Sounds like fair reasoning to me, bring in out of jump powers and take the drawback that allows for some more time to train and it is totally possible. Thanks for the wonderful jump val! Are you working on anything else?

>>51537875
Not him but I can't really imagine a way to win that tournament with in jump means.

>>51537984
Despite being a fancomic multiverse crossover, the power levels don't seem much higher than Buu-saga levels. I don't they live up to Super or GT levels. So even just the Mystic Gohan level perk should get you to the semifinals, and after that you just need to hardball the training.

>>51537872
Well even if you are a tech jumper or some other kind of jumper you should be able to get gud in the jump, what are you that cannot fight? Most things can be used to make a fuckoff blast or ray gun that teleports and such.

>>51537984
Magic and potential unleashed, then take the drawback that starts you hundreds of years before the tournament. The rest is thinking smart and luck

>>51537984
Go in and build a better gravity training room, crank it up to x5000 earth gravities then do not stop training. Take it into the hyperbolic time chamber for more time to train.

>>51536825
Elona.

>>51538006
Technology made Cell, who is one of the toughest in the tournament. So yeah, use your brain like Gero did.

>>51537983
Plenty of other things. Fate Zero, God of High School, Tales of Berseria and a bunch of other ideas later on once I finish those.

>>51537984
Well if you're an idiot and expect to win with just raw power you bought with cp here, then yeah you're going to be crushed by the finals at least. But you have the advantage of being able to find out the enemies' weaknesses and take advantage of them. Plenty of strong fighters here have personalities you can take advantage of.

Probably the most optimal path would be getting a companion to buy the Potential Unleashed perk with you having it too and then combining with potara earrings. That'll give you enough power to not get blitzed by even the top tier. Now add being tricky, taking advantage of the opponent and being willing to abuse the rules or outright cheat as necessary and you can win.

You can also choose where you start in the tournament bracket depending on your universe location too, so you can customise who you are going to be fighting. Meaning you can go for whatever matches will be easiest for you and save yourself for the final bout. Add in the year of time you have to prepare, and if you're smart about training, and you can win with great difficulty.

And considering there is a free extra time option (Despite so many people seeming to be so retarded they cannot read a 14 page jump fully or put together what that 0cp drawback can do in conjunction with certain universes when both the drawback and the universes hint at it), concerns about it being impossible in jump are pretty laughable.

>>51538077
>You can also choose where you start in the tournament bracket depending on your universe location too
I can what? If i can plan out who I would be facing. . . this might be a bit more realistic than I thought.

>>51538077
We won't have to win the GoH tournament will we?

>>51538077
Wow, you're really acting like a cunt.

>>51538204
Why would you? I'm pretty sure the thing never even gets an official end because PLOT just interrupts the finals and it's not really the focus once the story moves past the first 1/4 or 1/3rd.

>>51537962
>People still pretend such a meme exists?
People still meme this meme?

>>51538243
No, she's not. And even if she was, that's what happens when you deal with idiots for an extended period of time

>>51538244
How will look cp transfer to companion ? 50 cp-> 100 cp for companion or 100->100 ?

>>51538243
Stupid people deserve to be insulted.

>>51538265
>>51538274
It's shitposter bait. He got her mad once so now he wants to poke her when she posts to try and get more drama.

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>>51538243

>>51538244
Phew. Well that jump might offer some good preparation or perhaps even a potara partner in the form of Mo Ri or the Ox King.

She is best cow.

>>51538268
100 to 100.

>>51538297
You will be able to be second best cow too yes.

>>51538301
Sofry to ask a stupid question but are perks in the 100 tier free or 50%? I never saw if it was answered. Great job on the jump btw.

>>51538354
They're meant to be free for their origin yeah. Did I forget to note that? Always forget the misc jump stuff like that, especially ending sections. I'll add in into the update. Thanks.

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>>51538301
Oh hey, Val.

Juuust missed you last time, but I had a few questions.

BUT FIRST, I would like to say I absolutely love the Multiverse jump. Especially the Items (I usually don't take a lot of those, but yours are just /so/ good here).

Thank you for the jump. Got me to read the webcomic too.


Anyway... Questions.

>Frost Demon race
Do we start with only the base/true form, or do we also have the lower power transformations?

I mean, I know it says we'd need to unlock transformations of our race ourselves. But are the lower forms included, since those are just there to manage having too much power?

>Android Plans
Does this come with Cell's genetic samples, or would I need to get some Saiyin, Namekian, Frost Demon DNA myself?

More of a matter of convenience, considering they're all gathering there anyway.

>Frosty Fleet
Does this come with a Frieza-style floaty chair too? Because I liked that thing.

>>51538364
No problem I may have an old copy thanks for the help.

>>51537872
There is mage that won against Vegito (who should among the top three strongest characters in the webcomic) by sending him into a pocket dimension that run in a different time.

As long as you can make someone disappear for 30 seconds, you can win.

Which shouldn't be hard for anyone with high-technology or magic.

So in Generic Xianxia is entropy a thing I'd need to worry about in taking a stupid amount of time extension? I'm not familiar with the setting / genre at all so generally just curious about some universal mechanics. I mean I could probably do it it's just I really couldn't be fucked setting up some kind of uni/multi-versal entropy removal system.

>>51538371
You'll have the lower powered transformations yeah. The stuff you'll need to unlock is anything that increases your power. You'll also need to train to remain in your true form all the time and control it perfectly, since Cooler had to specifically focus on it.

You'd need to gather the DNA yourself but it would tell you how to combine it into a Cell thing once you did.

The chair? Sure, why not.

>>51538392
Training times comparable to a fuck ton of time extension drawbacks are common there. Be careful because you will reach a point where you are surrounded by extremely powerful sociopaths.

>>51538392
Not really. Xianxia settings usually work on the logic that older is better, so the older the world is the stronger it will be.

Older plant is more powerful than new plant.

Old dog is stronger and more powerful than young dog.

Some bones buried for 100000 years can probably stop the attack of a 100 year old master.

Its like reverse entropy.

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>>51538417
Alright, thanks for the answers.

Time to train my ass of for control of base form, and the awesome second augmentation form then.

Not sure what to call myself. Ice-a? Crispa?

Now if I could just finish my build sometime...

>>51538455
That actually sounds useful. Like wouldn't weapons that employ the concept of entropy as an enchant and such really fuck things from the Xianxia jump up then?

>>51538417
I just want to say thank you for answering all the little questions everyone has, and for continuing to make jumps in the first place.

>>51538492
You're welcome.

>>51538474
>Not sure what to call myself. Ice-a? Crispa?
I'd go check out the Xenoverse threads on /vg/, people there like to show off how clever they are with character design.

Funny how people are willing to put up with Val acting like a bitch just because her jumps are great for your powerwanking, but everyone comes down on Red if she acts even a little bit snippy after being hounded by the shitposter.

>>51538479
Using time as a weapon to wither your enemies could work pretty well and be useful to boost your stuffs power most people arent actually immortal (though some are, and some live for thousands of years) Sucking the power from other people and the environment to boost your own power is a classic xia thing to do (even raising people as cattle to steal their cultivation).

It is just a bit weird because although older is always better in xia, as ages go on the world just gets crappier. Humans are always reaponsible for the end of the folden olden era. Its like the rose colored glasses are real.

I think I got off topic somehow.

>>51538543
>It is just a bit weird because although older is always better in xia, as ages go on the world just gets crappier.
That's just classic mythology.

Are there any perks that would let me convert mana/magical power into chi/ki/spirit energy and vice versa

>>51537420

>not Zamasu

Poor taste

>>51538527
People know who they want to stick around.

Take a hint and shove off. And put your trip back on so we don't need to deal with you again.

Reminder that the best build for Multiverse is to take Transformation as a Gag Character, so you can justifiably make your transformation something like putting underwear on your head, or manually dying your hair blonde and gelling it into spikes.

>>51538590
Fuck off, Zamasu.

>>51538590
Who?

>>51538665
He's a kai who was born freakishly powerful, nearly to the level of a God of Destruction. He hates mortals and thinks they're evil. Has a bad habit of calling all mortals 'humans'.

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>>51538639

U mad, ningen?

>>51538695
Your boss erased you from existence, there's nothing to be mad about.

>>51538681
Um, no. Goku was beating him in normal Super Sayian form.

>>51538738
Goku has absorbed most of the power of the Super Saiyan God form, so he's generally at SSG levels most of the time even in base form.

>>51538738
http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/Saiyan_beyond_God

I hope Super ends up referencing SSJ4 a some point desu. One of the few things I like about GT.

>>51538761
>>51538770
I thought normal dbz power was confusing what the hell is this? How will vegeta keep up then?

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>>51538730

I still fucking won. I said I was going to kill all the mortals in Trunks's timeline and I did for the most part.

Even if my boss killed me he also destroyed that entire universe. Trunks and Mai are the only ones left.

>>51538802
Vegeta did it too.

>>51538818
I only saw that one movie I thought the ritual made it so a pure hearted saiyan became a god for a short time. You mean the ritual is easy enough to do a lot?

>>51538803
You weren't even killed by a god, you know. Trunks did it by getting so fucking pissed her surpassed a Super Saiyan God.

>>51538835
Vegeta achieved it through hard work and grit.

>>51538835
Saiyan cells can apparently keep a hold of the unlocked power after going God the first time.

>>51538803
Congratulations you created a ningen more powerful than probably anyone other then Zen-oh, Whis and Beerus in his timeline, AND left him the ability to reproduce

You just got Last Son of Krypton'd

>>51538846
Think Vegeta unlocked SSB with hard work, not SSG.

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>>51538846
>You weren't even killed by a god, you know. Trunks did it by getting so fucking pissed her surpassed a Super Saiyan God.

Trunks didn't actually kill me you dumb ningen. I became one with the universe itself. That's why Zeno had to destroy the entire universe to finally kill me.

>>51538853
Say that to me offline you filthy ningen. See what happens.

This is fun

>>51538931
He killed you, it's just that your ghost became a spiritual parasite. The lowest sort of creature.

SO I was looking at Generic Xianxia Jump
The drawback A Longer Stay allow you to spend more Time in the jump increasing it to 40 years with 3 purchases and doubling with every purchase after that

My question is is their a hard limit to that or can I take that drawback 33 times to stay 42,949,672,960 years
Because if so that would be great

>>51538949
The jumpmaker has gone on record saying you can take the drawback enough times that you can buy everything in the jump.

Do with that what you will.

>>51538949
Why would you want to? Jumping is the whole point of jumpchain, and staying in one world for so long seems to defeat the point.

>>51538963
>>51538965
The jump's on the drive, stop whining.

>>51538949
You could but at that point you may as well just stay.

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>>51538947

NINGENS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm done.

>>51538965
Sometimes you need time to complete certain devices or train or whatever
Also considering some of the timescales in Xianxia stories and how long it can take to train certain abilities taking that much time might be beneficial

In some Xiaxia stories dudes drop their age as being in the millions or billions of years depending on their power level with the multiverse they inhabit being countless trillions

>>51538931
....oh wow, that reminds me. Okay, let's say a god DID beat you. Technically Almighty Zen-oh did land the finishing blow.

Well guess what? The net result of your actions after you were erased? You created an excuse for Future Zen-oh to be involved in the first place, and left him utterly disgusted by you. Which gave Goku an opportunity to introduce him to Present Zen-oh. Who became friends with him. And was already friends with Goku. So now, he thinks of Goku as an even BETTER friend.

Your legacy wasn't just erased. It literally convinced the supreme god above all in your reality that one ningen in particular is a good person and friend.

I never thought I'd say this, but you basically got Springtime For Hitler'd harder than the shitposter at Christmas.

>>51538965
He's given the same choice at the end same as any other jump. You may as well ask that question about Civilization.

>>51539001
It's fun at first but it gets boring quick, yeah?

>>51535247
Hey Val! Glad to see you!

>Dabura
Sweet!

>just say you're hybrid
Oh, okay. I asked if I could do that the other day and you said now. I was just under the impression the hybrids had more potential but it was harder for them to reach because of their human mind or something.

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>>51538077
>>51538077
>Well if you're an idiot and expect to win with just raw power you bought with cp here, then yeah you're going to be crushed by the finals at least. But you have the advantage of being able to find out the enemies' weaknesses and take advantage of them. Plenty of strong fighters here have personalities you can take advantage of.
>Probably the most optimal path would be getting a companion to buy the Potential Unleashed perk with you having it too and then combining with potara earrings. That'll give you enough power to not get blitzed by even the top tier. Now add being tricky, taking advantage of the opponent and being willing to abuse the rules or outright cheat as necessary and you can win.

I thought this should win you the easiest if you're going for jump one:

>Be a Majin
>Get Gag World
>Get Arale V2
>Get various companions with Unleashed Potential
>Get a companion with Kaio-ken
>Get a Saiyan companion
>Get a companion with Ultra Armour
>Get a companion with Android Plans
>Start a year earlier
>Get the No Cheating and Grudge Time drawbacks
>Absorb android and companions
>Absorb Ultra Armor
>Start Kaio-ken and never turn it off
>Let your body be brought to verge of death just to regenerate after, still gaining the benefits of Saiyan power-up.

Since you're a Majin, you should be able to split and prevent yourself from getting sent to another dimension and automatically losing a fight. You will spent a whole year powering up in a universe of your choosing. Probably the one with the Sayians, since they're not pretty powerful but can be raised to offer some challenge and train yourself.

>>51538949
You can, but at that point you're going to face some serious escalation.

>>51538963
That is all I really wanted to know
I saw that drawback with no limit on it and wanted to see how ridiculously long you would have to stay to get all the points needed
You would need to take that perk 95 times since it only gives 100CP to buy every perk and item not including companion options

>>51539058

Yeah it does.

Speaking of Super, can't wait to assemble a pantheon of Super Saiyan Gods in DBM.

Think Beerus would be happy?

>>51539102
CP don't add up. You need more drawbacks or let go Gag world or Arale.

>>51538496
So different races don't affect starting strength?

Okay, well do you think a Celldroid could, with the Super drawback, potentially access the real high tier forms of its component races? Super Saiyan Blue, Golden Frieza, etc?

>>51539285
Beerus would be more happy if you introduced him to weird jumper food.

>>51539312
Last time she talked about it she basically said to fanwank it iirc. You guys need to start doing that on your own and not need approval for every step of your plans and ideas.

>>51539361
Good thing I saved some Ingredients from Toriko

>>51539361
I wonder if I could bribe him into helping me train with amazing jumper foods..

>>51539464
You want Whis to train you. He's not lazy and he's stronger.

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>>51539379
Fanwank is the lifeblood of the Jumper

With the right genetic tinkering perks after you take the Bio Android race you could reach GOLDEN SUPER SAIYAN GOD 5
The only one stopping you is you

>>51539309
Oh, I forgot that Majin was 700 and not 500.

Well, Bad Luck Bouts should also be doable.

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>>51535841
Always. I usually think I know the next few Jumps I'm going to take, only to have my writing for the current Jump completely alter the plan. Which is kind of fun in a way.

>>51536825
Sunless Sea and Fallen London. Both of those are absolute treasures of tone and setting.

>>51537622
Bit of a silly question, if you think about it. Everybody changes over time. Sometimes noticeably, sometimes not, but changes still happen. As for me, I started off as a major fanboy until I ruined two settings I actually cared about. After that I took things a little more seriously and dipped my toe into being a harem protagonist. For one Jump, I even went full hedonist, but that was less fun than you'd expect after the initial rush wears off.

Now? I'm not sure what I am. I'm not quite a hero, but I do try. Sitting in the woods is giving me a lot of time to think instead of just act. So I'm figuring out a few personal things.

>>51537860
It's okay to need a friend to keep yourself sane.

>>51539379
People probably ask because after she came back she systematically banned many NPs that were being posted.

Better to ask that having to rewrite the whole thing.

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>>51539495
>LEGENDARY PERFECT SUPER SAIYAN GOD RAINBOW.

FTFY

>>51539532
>Bit of a silly question, if you think about it. Everybody changes over time.
That's why I asked how, not if.
>Sitting in the woods
Uh?

How willing beerus be to train me if I offer amazing food in exchange?

>>51538130
So what would be the easiest bracket to fight?

>>51539607
Beerus will accept, but he would be a lazy as possible when training you unless you keep the amazing food coming as a reward for your breakthroughs.

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>>51539361

That sounds easier.

Mainly because I intend become King of the Saiyans in Universe 10 and I don't want Beerus to blow up the planet.

That's actually part of the reason Planet Vegeta got blown up in canon. Frieza would probably have done it anyway at a later time, but Beerus 'suggested' that he speed that up.

That's because one day King Vegeta treated Beerus and Whis to a feast in his palace on Planet Vegeta. Beerus used King Vegeta as a footrest while he was eating.

Beerus told Frieza to destroy Planet Vegeta because the King gave him the second best pillow in the universe. Beerus wanted the first which King Vegeta took for himself.

An admittedly stupid decision to make when a God of Destruction comes to your planet but Beerus is is a petty bastard.

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>>51539599
I'm currently in Mononokehime, but I went completely off the path of the story.
I should be done with the write-up in a few hours.

>>51539649
Cool. Will read.

>>51539627
The brackets that don't have Goku, Vegeta, Broly, Vegito, or Zen Buu in them.

I mean by the end of the tournament your going to be facing end tier DBZ levels of insanity so the ability to choose your staring bracket is not as big an advantage as you might think.

>>51539649
Theres a mononoke jump?

>>51539647
Wow, if the Saiyans weren't genocidal maniacs I would say that Beerus was being an unnecessary dick.

So I goofed.

Made my giant robot an alt-form in Gargantia, and now going into Infinite Stratos, I'm realizing... I actually want to be the mech-pilot, and not the mech. And yet I'm basically obligated to import the mech-form into IS Stratos Customization.

Have you ever made decisions, CP purchase or otherwise, that wind up being bittersweet / that you regret later on?

>>51539589
Not to mention whatever the fuck you get when you combine Final Form, Final Form from Sword Art, and the Hulk Out perk from A:EMH

>>51539694
So many times. Mainly because I roll when attempting something new or different or just because I am bored. I dont know why though, rolling never ends well.

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>>51539687
Sure is. Dirge is a miracle worker. Right on the drive under unimaged, in with the Ms.

>>51539694
>Get Reverse Engineering perks
>Get Assimilation/Salvage Savage

It wasn't that hard.

This is my plan to win the tournament in DBM
>have lunar dial
>have some perk or magic that lets you polymorph people
>super strength
>as soon as the match begins polymorph your opponent into a small animal
>then stop time and throw them far far away where they will take more than 30 seconds to come back
>you win
How feasible does it look?

>>51539561
Pretty much. I'd rather get a second opinion before my writefagging then have to go back and redo it.

>>51539694
If you have been to naruto then make a shadowclone have it turn onto the fobot and pilot yourself.

>>51539722
A lot of them (most the heavies) can teleport. It would work for a while though.

Also whats your anti buu plan?

>>51539693
Oh, he definitely is. Especially in Super. In the movie, he's kind of a cool dude. In Super he's just a cunt.

More fitting really, seeing as he's a cat.

>>51539693

Beerus 'is' an unnecessary dick though, the Saiyans are also just a war race in general and led by shitty people in the past. The two don't have to be mutually exclusive. Beerus very nearly blew up the Earth over Fat Buu being unwilling to share some pudding iirc

>>51539747
Anti absortbion perk from Kirby or doing what the mage did and use magic from other jump to teleport him to my dimension from dimension lord.

Now that I think of it throwing them into my dimension and using the Narnia clock sounds like a better idea

>>51539802
Be aware that buu also likes to seed the arena with his self, so just tossing one body in may not be enough to win. Tien beat him with a magic spell and sucked him into a pool floaty, except he didnt win because there was still an arena full of buus.

Just out of curiosity, why is Cell the same price as Majin? Can't a Majin get everything Cell can by eating a Saiyan, a Namekian, and a Frost Demon? And then get even more.

>>51539802
Right up until he blows up your Dimension.

Which jump started the "have X CP stipend for Items Only" trend?

>>51539830

Cell doesn't risk losing himself when he eats people and has the biological advantages of the those races, Buu meanwhile gets new powers, knowledge, memories and skills when he eats people but his actual biology never changes from a Majin (unless he specifically alters it for some race based technique)

Basically, Cell is the safer and more consistent option, Majin is the more variable one with higher potential but also higher risk.

>>51538474
Subzero

>>51539830
>Right up until he blows up your Dimension.
Not that anon, but if the Spectre couldn't, Buu won't be able to do that.

Specially when this are DBZ levels.


>>51539872
It should be noted that once Buu has eaten enough people he started stabilizing and his personality shifted a lot less.

>>51538474
Qube
Sano
Ryme
Hale
Polaro
Yce

I cannot for the life of me come up with a re-wording of refrigerator or fridge.

>>51539880
>>51539936

Frozone

>>51539870
I think it started in dirges ffxiv, but then again it has been around for a while and I certainly appreciate it.

>>51539774
Its his job to destroy stuff. Zen-oh even says that he thought Beerus & Champa were slacking off because they weren't destroying stuff on daily basis. It seems only when Beerus is sleeping is he exempt from blowing up planets on daily basis.

Which reminds me. What if Beerus had slept until his appointed time was up? Goku would've been older, probably less powerful due to the fact his training was hitting a plateau. He required the ritual to be an SSJG. Golden Frieza might've finished off Goku by then, seeing how Goku needed SSJB to even keep up.

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>>51538474
I always thought, if I were a Freeza race, it would be fun to call myself "Chili".
Then I'd make a point to make super spicy food for everyone, on top of whatever else I was doing.

I think there's a perk in Red Dwarf to help with that.

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Update on the Laputa jump, it's mostly filled out now. Just missing an introduction, and descriptions for the drawbacks.

Feedback would be appreciated as I'm still unsure on some of the balance/perks.

Anybody know how the anon who was trying to make a jump for a "merge properties" thing is doing? I think they were working on a Simcity jump or something?

>>51540061
I'm sorry. I'm sorry it's taking so long without anything to show for it.

I just. I fucking hate Simcity. It, it's just a fucking slog. This is literally worse than fat camp.

I may scrap the idea and do some kind of 1920's / Speakeasy deal.

>>51540061
>>51540087
>"merge properties" thing
what does that mean?

>>51540103
Basically, I was looking for an option that allowed me to merge the buildings, properties, and shit that follows between jumps and aren't Warehouse attachments. Like say, merging the zoo from Zoo Tycoon and the fair / amusement park from Rollercoaster Tycoon. Or the several castles that can be purchased.

Said option doesn't exist, so I was given some jump suggestions. Simcity was the presiding one, and so I... have been trying... to work on it.

But dear god I hate Simcity.

>>51539695

At this point you just turn into an actual monkey with platinum fur.

>>51539896
Buu, Gohan, and Vegetto can destroy pocket dimensions. Vegetto explicitly destroys a dimension in Multiverse. They're probably more powerful than Rage Spectre, anyway.

>>51539974

Sure, this is something I'm aware of, but he's a total dick about it. It's like if you were a mailman who just threw packages into people's yards either hours or even days after they were supposed to arrive.

>>51539872
Actually, Cell can probably grow farther without hitting a plateau since he can keep training, getting Zenkais, and unlocking new forms. Buu will eventually run out of people that are strong enough to be worth eating. Of course, that's probably not a problem for a jumper.

>>51540125
Anon, if you hate the setting so badly that you can't even find enjoyment in its supposed badness, perhaps you should try another property.

>>51540125
couldn't you make a jump out of a setting you like, and slip in a perk or item about merging properties?

>>51540206
Can't Buu get whatever Cell has by eating Cell (including training potential).

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>>51540018
Well, I'll make some notes while I read though this. The first thing I notice is the utter lack of fluff and tone. I /really/ hope you'll fill this in a bit before the final draft.

>Perks
Not a huge fan of the 800 CP capstones. I much prefer the 100-200-400-600 structure, but that's a minor quibble.

>Villager
I'd suggest switching the 200 and 400 perks. A weekly plot hook is nice for keeping things interesting, but a passive friendship field is /way/ more useful.

>'Hallucination of those that came before'
Honestly, this is rather expensive for a not!1-up perk that has the chance to fail. I would suggest dropping the line about it possibly failing. I like the idea though.

>Pirate
>'Ma and Pa'
This is really more suited to a Companion option than a Perk, so perhaps move it there and find a new 100 perk?

>Army
>'Greedy Pack of Thieves'
Considering how much of a boost this is to looting, I'd suggest swapping it with 'Officer'. 'Officer' gives just skills and a command position for this Jump only, which are better suited for a 100 perk. Might have to add in a line about 'Officer' costing CP after the first Free Purchase.

>'My True Name is...'
I feel like this needs a little more to qualify for the price tag.

>Items
Your pricing is all over the map in this section, which makes sense considering some of the things you have up here. But Laputan Descendants have nothing less than 300 CP for items, which they get for free anyways. I have no problem with that, considering the Origin costs 200 to get into.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that the Item section needs a little love, especially the Laputan Descendants section.

Also, for my two cents, I think a Repaired Laputa should be an Undiscounted Item and cost 800 CP.

>Companion Options
Pretty standard stuff here. I see nothing to complain about so far. It's far more standard for Canon Companions to cost 200 CP, but I won't argue against them costing 100.

[1/2]

>>51540341
He gets the raw power they have even absorbed but I don't think he gets transformations or potential or anything.

>>51540274
That's why I've been debating on moving to 1920's / Prohibition Era as a jump instead of this.

>>51540315
The thing is it's got to make sense - at least, from my PoV. Like with Simcity I was justifying it via a perk allowing manual placement of your buildings and properties pre-jump and overlaying two properties caused them to 'mesh' together.

With a Prohibition Era jump I can justify it via the existence of speakeasies and blind tigers, and also the hidden breweries and such.

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>>51540018
>>51540355
>Drawbacks
There's not much to say about this section until you work it up a little bit more. You're going to need a few more Drawbacks though. A Power Loss Drawback should give back more than 100 cp, though I know this is a fairly low-powered setting so maybe that's what you were banking on. Still, I'd suggest 300.

The Musca reaching Laputa a year early and totally derailing canon could be a 500, because that's going to cause a /lot/ of damage.

'Family Friendly' is an interesting idea, but I don't know how well it's going to fly. Maybe shift focus to you being required to keep the main cast alive while the canon rolls on, but with hardcore mode engaged.

The Any Flying Vehicle you're on for more than a day Drawback is actually hilarious and I approve.

[2/2]

Overall, you've got a good skeleton of a Jump. The potential is there but you need to bring it to life.

Three hours later and you decide to beat on that drum again? God you're pathetic.