Min-maxing cure for 3.5 D&D?

>>51535118
You say no, unless all the other players have similar requests, in which case consider saying yes, and running a stupid overpowered anime campaign.

(also note that as long as you are playing by the rules, like 90% of templates and monster races are fucking trash tier and are going to do more harm to the character than good).

I am playing mostly by the rules as much as i know how. the players all kinda have a -as long as it's playable and ask the DM so i can say yay or nay- i said okay to the character and told them if they abuse the bonuses and stuff that i reserve the right to "put on shelf"

>>51535157
Sounds cool, but 3.5 is a complicated system that's easy to get wrong. For example, half the people I know use Level Adjustment for monstrous races wrong; they are usually far more than enough to offset the benefits.

So, is the player, with LA counted, still in the good level range? Are the magic items he's asking for according to WBL? Are the other players also similarly kitted? Do his thematics clash with the game you are trying to run?

>>51535269
I am bad with the wbl.. heh..but uh its when they asked for something that is like a half- fiend.... but wants to be a devil type other half.. i had to say no.... they were trying to max out bonsluses on character before magical items... which im nice. Its the fact theyre strong before rolls or items.

>>51535589
Okay, half-devil devil is kinda stupid, but the LA would be so staggering that whatever stats they get are practically worthless.

Like, I don't know templates from heart but even if you allowed that stupid shit they'd have something like a +12 LA. Even if they get +16 strength, they'd be 1st level, with +1 BAB, next to a non-LA barbarian or fighter or whatever who'd have like +13 BAB and a bunch of feats/class features/stat increases from leveling on them.

>>51535118
If you feel a need to say no, you just say no.

But frankly I would be less concerned with them being overpowered, and more concerned with them being shit. Because a +LA is almost universally nowhere near as good as a class level.

I'd rather make a custom racial write-up for L1, and have them unlock their SLAs as they gain levels, and make stacking power increases (like martial bonuses such as natural weapons or stat increases) into bonus feats they have to select, and need the appropriate race to qualify for. Sometimes I'll also allow some of those feats as ACFs. For powerful races I'll put a minimum level to play as one.

I'm going to guess by the tone of the responses that OP is fairly new at this, and is not properly enforcing rules like Level Adjustment.

OP: if a race has a Level Adjustment (or LA) like the Half-Fiend does, then you take that into calculation when making characters with that race.

For example, Half-Fiend has a LA of +4 (if memory serves, it's been awhile). So if the rest of the party is say, 9th level, the Half-fiend character is supposed to be 5th level. Now, as some other postsrs have mentioned, LA was a poorly balanced system (Like a lot of 3rd Edition D&D, sadly) and so its rarely worth it - moat 9th level human characters will be stronger than a 5th level Half-Fiend.

That being said, do not just let the Half-Fiend play a 9th level character, as that character will be much stronger than the others.

>>51535770
Op here

I didnt use LA as i didnt think it was a huge thing.... for any of the characters

Most are drow so not a.huge worry there. ... its a half-fiend and base race is yuan-ti i think.... or might have been a something else. It was something strange like that.

>>51537506

LA is a really really huge fucking thing. Like enormously huge. You need to use it, or have some alternative that balances out the powerful races and templates, otherwise your game ends up fucked, man.

>>51535118
Don't play 3.5.