Horus Heresy General - Make /hhg/ Great Again

First for the Ninth Legion!

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>>51522605
Can you feel it?

Are the dreadnought drop pods not available anymore? Can't find them on the FW site.

>>51522671
They're most likely just out of stock.

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The flesh is IRON

Instead of bolter autism, how about some classic armor autism?

Would it be heretical to mix mk IV legs and chests with mk iii/v heads and chests?

Should the backpack match the chest mark?

>>51522718
FW doesn't seem to have any trouble putting MkIII torsos onto MkIV bodies. And old DG used MkIII helmets on MkIVs.

>>51522605
How do you guys feel that they are splitting up HH and 40k?

I'm just glad that we aren't going to get the boat rocked.

>>51522718
FW can't seem to get their head straight aboutt mixing marks. At one point they mention mixing MK3 and 4 is only possible by a skilled artificer, then they show dudes doing itt like its a fashion choice.

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>>51522718
Do what the fuck you want, say they are veterans of Isstvan or something who had to repair their armour with what they had.

Picture related, an Isstvan loyalist. Just have a background reason why their in mixed marks.

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>>51522718
>Instead of bolter autism, how about some classic armor autism?

>>51522744
What? Is this something from a reputable source, or did BOLS make some shit up and /40kg/ overreact yet-a-fucking-gain?

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Has anyone tried getting metallic colours using highly diluted base or layer paints over Leadbelcher/Runefang basecoat?
I like schemes such as pic related, but monocolour is killing me.

Contemptor dreadnought with chainfist+melta and a kheres assault cannon in a drop pod. Good or bad?

I got 465 points to use and a tactical squad in a rhino + the above mentioned option seems like a good idea. The WS/BS 5 can be useful with this loadout.

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>>51522653

I feel it

>>51522779
2 different people have reported it. Not the bullshit "industry experts"

>>51522764
To be fair, the bit about the difficulty had half of the MkIIIs torso repaired with MkIV parts. I think it's somewhat easier to mix whole pieces. Torsos, legs, arms, helmers than using scavenged pieces from one mark to slap onto pieces of another mark.

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On a scale from total to absolute, how REEEEE is this?

>>51522814
Yeah, if I remember right the "had to be done by a master artificier" thing was from Book 6, where they're talking about an IH who repaired his MkIII torso and arm with some MkIV parts

>>51522813
>two people
Who?

>>51522858
Mikhael, who has an okayish track record.

And some other fucker I can't remember.

>>51522718
5 and 4 go together just fine, but it requires a skilled artisan to make mk4 and 3 not fail

>>51522836
not at all

godwyn, mk6/mk5 and bike are all pre-heresy kosher

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>>51522718
>armor autism
My personal favorite brand of autism. I'm currently trying to figure out how to justify using bits from this:
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-DE/Space-Marine-Character-Conversion-Set
with MkII/III/IV armor, namely which suits the legs would work best with.

>>51522976
Those are MkVI legs.

>>51522836
>modlines REEEEEEEEE

>>51522999
You mean the slightly different coloured line resulting from the gluing two halves together? I can assure you that the surface is smooth as a baby primarch's butt.

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>>51522790
bump

>>51522907
Who the fuck is mikhael?
>googles
Ah, someone on BOLS.

So, a BOLShitter, and an anon. Real fucking convincing.

>>51523098
Why the fuck are Alpha Legion so popular with /hhg/? Is this 'I am Alpharius' meme magic at work?

>>51523142
>Is this 'I am Alpharius' meme magic at work?
NoYes

>>51522990
Well then I might as well lop off the robot leg I want and glue it to the appropriate set

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>>51523135
It's this guy and some fucker called razoredge.

Let's ignore whether it happens or not, how would you feel about this happening?

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>>51522653
i feel it

>>51522694
How's that stealing working out for you? The Imperial Fist symbol and Salamander words were enough to satiate you or there's more you want to pilfer?

>>51522836
it's reeetarded

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>>51522790
Yes, it's how I did my XX.

-prime leadbelcher
-Brush on leadbelcher to cover any gaps/second coat it
-drybrush high edges with runefang.

3-4 coats of FW Clear Calth Blue.

Not the clearest pic on my phone but you get the idea.

>>51522836
what are we ree'ing at exactly?

>>51523342
Also I did that without an airbrush. Would've saved time but obvs it's not critical. Aside from doing bits of chipping at the armor that's it, senpai.

No green hints on them but I prefer the dark cobalt/indigo description they normally get.

>>51523342
>>51523383
>FW Clear Calth Blue
Isn't that sort of a glaze?
Thanks for the input anyway, they look great.
I had the idea of thining paints down with either water or Lahmian medium, in my case Sotek Green/Kabalite Green for that in between blue and green.

>>51523398
I couldn't say if that'd work; I feel like thinning those two colors would be really hard to do when it has to cover a whole marine. I wouldn't want to imagine trying to match that formula if you need to cover an area like a tank or something.

>>51523377
Well, whenever someone brings up using 40k bits and models, there's a bunch of REEEE'ing.

>>51523198
A rules set dedicated to HH? Im all for it, have it written by Bligh and co and it could be fun.

>>51523441
I'll definitely get an airbrush with some Valejo or Tamiya paints as soon as my finances allow, which won't be for some months. In the meantime I'd like to start painting with what I already have.
Painting taking a long time is usual for me as I like to do blends and shit, so it isn't a problem if the colours don't stick right away.

>>51522790

I was just messing around with ways to do power swords and stumbled onto this. Leadbelcher with two to three coats of Soulstone Blue works great for Alpha Legion armor, maybe the first layer could be the green equivalent if you like that shade.

No pics sorry, but it looks decent and is really easy once you get used to how the kinda gel like texture of the technical paint spreads.

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>>51523563

Here's a very sloppy picture of some dude that did it to a Necron.

He just kinda slapped it on there, but it comes out much smoother if you try.

>>51523527
>>51523198
I'm not a fan of it. Forgeworld have enough on their plate writing-wise with HH books, imperial armour books (which they are seriously behind on), specialist games, and anything else that takes their fancy. I don't think adding an entire edition of 40k rules to their workload is really a good thing when they seem to be creaking as things are.

>>51523607
fugg that looks messy.
Thanks for the suggestion, I'll try out my idea, if it doesn't work, I might just stick to the matte one I tested already.

>>51523607
You could probably take this stuff, add a bunch of acrylic medium and dip models in it, I wonder if that would work.

>>51523625
If 8th does come this summer then the work itself was done months if not a year ago and now theyre just stockpiling copies for shipping.

How many landraiders (mainly phosphex achilleses) and predators (mainly armoured breaktrough) are too many for 1000 pts? Is like 2 of the former and 3 of the latter too much?

>>51523625
Seems like it's just going to be a slightly modded 7th ed if it does come out. Shouldn't be too much work.

>>51523625
I'm with you man. I'd give anything for them to focus more on imperial armors. Both new and updating the old stuff

>>51523607
would the same kind of thing work for a TS metallic red? Spiritstone Red over Ironbreaker, maybe? Or would a different steel color work better?

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>>51522836
Looks solid to me mate. Lookin' forward to seeing it painted.
>>51523377
>>51523457
Autism. That's what it is. Anything short of pure uniformity is under immediate suspicion. However, whether it's minor or major, just about anything can send someone into a rage. Frankly, unless you're completely disregarding the canon, HH offers a pretty wide degree of artistic freedom for 'your doods'

>>51523984
I know one guy here was doing good work with translucent red over gold, so that could work. If anything, I'd just be concerned with how evenly it sets, because otherwise it might end up looking really patchy (or you'll have to do tons of super thin layers).

>>51523984
Somebody did it with Bloodletter Glaze I believe. However, if you want a warm red hue, you'd be better served with a gold undercoat.

>>51522671
The molds were completely worn out <insert mom joke here> and FW decided they might as well completely redesign the model.

>>51523674
This seems the most likely.

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>>51524039
>>51524071
I'm personally more leaning towards a darker red, like pic related. I dunno, I like the contrast with the white

>>51524118
By all means, it's just that you'll get a cold red over silver.

>>51524189
I'll probably test it out on some random dudes I have laying around, once the weather gets nice enough for me to basecoat

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>>51524071
Not so sure on the Bloodletter Glaze, it seems far too light to me to work as a TS red (I got a pot a while back and could never get it to look good on anything).
>>51524118
With the translucent reds, just keep coating it and it'll get progressively darker. I used Golden Liquid Acrylics Quinacridone Crimson for my Retribution forces in Warmachine. They're incredibly rich in color in person, and they take on different properties depending on what you undercoat it with. However, it also has a tendency to look like shit in pictures.

>>51524000
>>51523457

Oh. Well fuck that then
My doods in progress are NL mkIV and mkV on de-spiked 40k chaos bikes, which made me curious.

Is it ever worth taking any heavy weapons on vets aside from flamers?

>>51524277
Heavy bolters if you're DA(poison 2+), IF(+1BS) or IW(pinning). AL once Banestrike is made great again.

>>51522744
>Horus Heresy is marketed as the 'big boys' system, seeing more retarded people flock to it.

This game'll be dead in a year won't it.

>>51524274
Why not just use the CSM legs to make MkVI bikers?

>>51524367
I hope not. The lack of xenos keeps away a lot of spergs.

So judjing by the teasers Sons now have two extra cults and one extra order. What the fuck the two extra cults even can be? The five we know are edicated to five basic psychic discipline.

Also given the Order os Ruin is about psychic take on techmaines/siege masters, what the Order of the Blind could be?

>>51524483
It's more that for a lot of people it is harder to buy FW models than those of GW. Because the real cheese spergs switch armies the instant something more OP is released, which is harder to do with FW stuff. Your order might be delivered late or not at all, there might be parts missing or so warped you need to wait on replacements, you can't really just slap the parts together, throw some paint over it and have a model that won't fall apart when bouncing around in a box, and so on.

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>>51524383
I have a few old 3/4th edition beakie heads lying around, so yeah I might as well.

>>51524571
The strongest of the minor cults. Propero was supposed to have many, many of them.

Nine great cult temples: 5 as the foundations of psychic powers, three great minors, and Magnus' sanctum.

>>51524277
Missile Launchers for more Anti-Armor/Infantry, go around busting transports and landing small blasts on footsloggers. Heavy Bolters are pretty good too depending on the legion.

>>51524367
The community is way stronger in 30k, nobody is afraid tto tell spergs to fuck off. Most of the events are themed, the books are expensive story and artbooks more than they are rulebooks. We're in a pretty good spot if things continue, even with the game going more mainstream. All BaC and BoP did was allow more people entry.

>>51523625
>seriously behind on IA
Hmm really activates the almonds

>>51524823
And it's easy to get more from bits stores. BA ones are quite cheap compared to regular ones and all you need to do is file a blood drop or three from their forehead. MkVI torsos aren't terribly expensive either. And BaC MkIV shoulder pads are easy enough to covert into MkV/VI ones, since the rim is so thin and easy to file off.

>>51524884
>the books are expensive story and artbooks more than they are rulebooks.
TFW your whole 30k scene is WAAC fags who only own the red books and have never even seen one of the black books...

>>51524946
I'm so sorry anon. Meanwhile my group doesn't like playing unless it's part of a larger campaign. It's fun, but sometimes annoying.

>>51524946
Buy the black books and beat some sense into them.

>>51524980
My group has myself with blackshields, a waacfag with nicely painted models, and a waacfag with horribly fucking painted Scythes of the Emperer he pretends are 30k marines.

It takes all my energy not to smack him.

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>>51525061
>horribly fucking painted Scythes of the Emperer he pretends are 30k marines.

Pics? I want something to laugh at.

Pic is our hybrid zone-mortalis board.

>>51525095
Damn, thars sexy. Was it a bajillionty pounds, or is it feasible to get? Moving into a larger house in a couple months and I was thinking about setting up a full-size table so we don't always have to play on the local GW's two 4x4 boards (tiny place, those, 5 painting stations and a display/newbies board). Would obviously need some proper terrain and some Zone Mortalis would be a nice change from open-field slugfests.

>>51524277

Sniper vets benefit from heavy bolters.

Armor pen vets do quite well with missile launchers.

Heavy flamers on melee vets are actually not shit

>>51525156
Don't know how much it was, just that it wasn't cheap.

>>51525095
>all those blast markers

This phosphex gave me cancer.

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>>51525243
Literally

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>>51525243
Have a Polish qt as a treatment.

>>51525095
phosphex crawling up the ZM walls makes me moist

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>>51525322
Hello, Morty.

>>51525266
Are those space wolves, or is that glorious death guard on dusk raider action?

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>>51525339

>>51525095
Can one get those blast markers somewhere?

I'm... asking for a friend.

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>>51525344
99% sure those are yiffs.

>>51525455
Awoooo the wolf awakens

>>51524571
What teaser?
HOL' UP
Order of Ruin is going to exist rules wise?

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>>51525560
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/31/first-look-at-inferno/

And another pic. This time some sexy world eaters.

>>51525560
Maybe. They could have rules, or could simply be a mention on the map. We'll find out tomorrow.

>>51525612
I thought the event started saturday?

>>51525630
Maybe it's friday where he is?

>>51525660
Time Zones were a mistake.

>>51524571

Order of the Blind is probably Information/Electronic Warfare.
Knee jerk thoughts are something like Technomancers in Shadowrun, so they would psychicly enter machines and fuck with machine spirits and code djinns and ruin command and control systems and turn information against the enemy. Like map hacks in an RTS

>>51525630
>>51525660
Registration and Sales are opening Friday from 5-8pm. People are getting their books tomorrow.

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>>51525699
Scans when, lord Tzeentch?

>>51525699
Yeah, Atia said (in the comments to some post or other) they'll have an Inferno preview up on battlebunnies tomorrow.

>>51525732
Scans? Never. Photos? Tomorrow evening if the wifi isn't shite.

>>51525756
Thanks based anon.

>>51525756
They can be shitty, blurry, dick covered, barely legible pics as long I get legion rules, units and RoWs. Then I'll know what direction to take my legion and can actually start spending money again.

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>>51525756
Good man. The Emperor approves

>>51525756
I agree with >>51525789 all I need are TSon rules and I'll suck your dick in a non threatening way.

>>51525866
>and I'll suck your dick in a non threatening way.
Yeah, anon, because offering him a shitty bj will really entice him.

If you want KSon rules you'd best be willing to suck his dick in so threatening a manner that when he blows his load it's legally self defense.

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>>51525866
>>51525909

>>51525866
>>51525909
Don't worry, I can do without, huh, that.

>>51525964
Post them in this order:
>Talons
>Legio Sinister
>New Militia provenances
>Magnus and Russ rules
>Anything else
>TSons and Wolves

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>>51525964
>>51525939
>>51525909
>>51525866
>mfw

>>51522605
>Make HH Great Again
So.... it's going to suck balls.

>>51526165
>>>/pol/

>>51523286
>How's that stealing working out for you? The Imperial Fist symbol and Salamander words were enough to satiate you or there's more you want to pilfer?
This. No more Unbreakable litany uttered by the Xth. You even stole the thief title from the Corvidae.

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>>51526361
Never forget!.

>>51526165
>can't even read

Typical >>>/pol/

>>51524336
>IW(pinning). AL once Banestrike is made great again.
Can we make IW Shrapnel bolts Great for Once?

>>51526428
Sure, switch Pinning for Shred.

>>51526404
>yo bros look at this sick giant cog, let's stop for a second and get a selfie in front of it

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>>51525475
It's the Wolf Bearers!

>>51524118
>>51524212
>>51524251
>>51524039
Could this method work with silver base + yellow glaze for Imperial Fists?

>>51526444
Pinning on its own is useless in the Ld9 millennium. Maybe if it was at -1Ld, O IVth trips.

>>51526515
>-1Ld
Just kill the sergeant.

>>51526632
Can't do it with HBolters, the fucker is wearing artificer!
Oh well, time to use Medusae as sniper rifles :^)

Has anyone actually used a Stormbird in their games? How did it do? I know Titans are ludicrously shooty and fairly durable, but this looks like a totally different beast.
I have a slightly crazy and probably infeasible idea.

Aside from the Command Rhino, is there anything else in 30k that provides Precision Deepstrike?

Asking in regards to a stupid Blackshields build with Outlanders and the Raider force org (from HH4) I'm starting on.

>>51526762
a massive, titanic, tremendous, unmatched beneath the heavens, piece of shit

>>51526762
Is it
>Damocles Rhino
>Proteus Explorator
>Perturabo
>Stormbird
for 99,99% chance of 1st turn arrival?

>>51526768
Nuncio Vox

>>51526762
>>51526827

The factory standard stretch limo of demolition derby, if you will.

>>51526762
What FW should do is give it a rule that it moves onto the table before the start of the first player turn. Right now the issue is that the Stormbird + contents are probably your entire army or at least most of it. And we all know the issues with that, specially in high point games

>>51526850
>Nuncio Vox
Thank You. I was looking for locator beacons and forgot Nuncio's did more than spot artillery.

>>51526850
Why not just get Landing Pad with ready for take off?

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>>51526827
>>51526854

Really? Why? I can read the stats, looks dangerous enough for what it does.

>>51526850

No it isn't, although it probably involves some reserves stuff given how much army I'd be cramming into it. Mostly it involves making one, then filling it with bullshit and doing a glorious combat drop from my giant floating whale of a gunship, since I always wanted to try that but I find drop pods boring and never picked up an army with them anyway.

>>51526875

Yeah, I guess that would be problematic. Why not give it Drop Pod Assault, or a variant of it? Not like you're in danger of underpaying for deployment there.

>>51526917
Wait, that would actually work? Let me look at that...

>>51526958
>filling it with bullshit and doing a glorious combat drop from my giant floating whale of a gunship
Same here, my friend. I want to run it alongside a pair of Thunderhawks, one gunship, the other transporter, all three filled to the brim.
Spartan is technically Land Raider-sized, right?

>>51522605
>>51522605

All new to this stuff. So I want to get the Betrayal at Calth to build a legion of some description but I have no idea where to start!

Been reading up on doing lists and all but finding it pretty overwhelming!

Any advice on what to do having got the BoC set?

>>51527025
>Any advice on what to do having got the BoC set?

Depends on the legion, if I were you I would pick a legion then a play style that interests you and go from there. In very general terms the contents of both plastic boxes are perfect for a small Pride of the Legion army as you'd only need transports to get close to 1500+ pts.

What do you want? Thats the first thing you should be asking yourself.

>>51527025
Get some rhinos. Vehicles help a lot. What legion are you doing?

>>51526958
>Yeah, I guess that would be problematic. Why not give it Drop Pod Assault, or a variant of it?
Perhaps, but maybe not allow the units inside to disembark on the same turn it arrives. Drop pods are strong enough already, but imagine something that drops an entire 2000-3000 point army

>>51527023
No, the spartan is larger than a land raider

>>51527025
Really, picking a legion is possibly the most important initial step. So, go here:
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/The-Horus-Heresy
...and click on the Get Started Now box at the top. Scroll down to Choose Your Legion, and have a read of the descriptions for all 18 and/or look at the pretty pictures of each ones' colour scheme. Hopefully at least one of them will seem especially cool to you, and we can go from there.

>>51527025
I've given up on anyone reading the OP pastebins.

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>>51522605
>Dorn is the worst primarchu

>>51526917
I can see no reason why that shouldn't actually work, since Superheavy Flyer is a subset of Flyer, and it has the Hover type. That's that problem solved nicely. And for lots less than two tanks and a Primarch, too.

>>51527023
I'd allow it just because. Mine will be fill of Mechancium Myrmidons, Thallax and Magi, probable some enginseers too. If I go Leviathan FoC, I can take it and the Admech as the allied.

With Reductor, that's 3 arty tanks, two 6-bot Thallax units in the gunship, a big boss ArchMagos, some Secutors and a Fast Attack, probably a bunch of Arlatax. Then the other two LoW slots can be flyer wings or other tanks.

Honestly, in a game that big we'd all need another FoC anyway, so I'd just have the Sokar and it's load of bullshit as the entirety of one and the conventional army as the other.

>>51527094

Yeah, def. a good idea. It can drop them off next turn and with it's armour and effective 18HP (12 + 5++) not going to have trouble surviving that long.

I love superheavies like that, just a giant pile of guns throwing dakka in all directions, not just one or two giant guns on legs (although Ordinatii get an exception for clearly being massive artillery).

>>51527025
What legion are you thinking of doing? Vehicles are never a bad investment. Another BaC or a BoP box would give you just about all the infantry you need. Bits to modify and expand as well. Each MkIV sprue comes with 1 extra torso and a bunch of spare heads and arms, so with some extra legs you could easily make 11 marines per sprue.

>>51527156
>I just bought a BaC box, How can I get started?
>The first thing you should do is download or buy the books you will need. Read through them. Completely. Then, choose a legion.
In all fairness, this is pretty unrealistic. Expecting potential players to read all 6 black books cover-to-cover BEFORE they pick a legion is a bit silly. There are much more concise resources out there.

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>>51527025
Pick your poison.

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>>51527220
We can have different opinions. Some see it as a game that also has novels, I discovered it as novels that also had minis.

Also, I was rather talking about pic related, which is found in the OP

>>51527245
I wholeheartedly agree with your pic.

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>fantasize about playing my white scars as proper arrow raining mongolian horseman

>lovingly paint all of them, make lists that are fluffy and effective but not a pain to play against

>finally have the epiphany that outriders are not horse archers but are assault marines +1, especially in Chogorian Brotherhood where they score.

>Outriders are at their best charging, hitting the enemy and wheeling for another charge.

>I've been playing Chinese Bretonnia this whole time.

It just feels...right.

>>51527070
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>>51527245

I like the Dark Angels as I have always like thier fluff and they look pretty cool! I like the black paint scheme too!

>>51527546

Hey man, >>51527685 here. I found it quite overwhelming finding out what books it is I actually needed to look at first and that's what I was finding difficult!

>>51527546
>Also, I was rather talking about the exact bit you quoted in your post.
Okay.

>>51527685
Well, DA have the worst LA rule, compensated by having the best equipment (aside from the lack of an AP2 weapon) and arguably the strongest RoWs (after Ironfire) so you'll probably want to play a 'wing.
So, Rhinos or dropping your infantry in favour of bikes and dildos is your best bet.

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>>51527725
But you don't need to read Books 1-6 to know about the IF, only Book 3.
But you gotta read it completely.

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X days to go, where X is a number i'm not actually aware of the value.

>>51527784
I think we are 31 hours away.

>>51527685
Look to the Ironwing RoW then, both plastic boxes are great for that because you only need rhinos and then some support which can be Dreadnoughts or Predators. Pride can also be good but you get much more out of Ironwing than Pride if you want to run bolter boys.

>>51527732

Atleast until they get the rest of their gear once the next book comes out in 3 years.

That said, you can do alot with generic RoW instead of Legion specific ones. Basicly, decide on what you want to play then look through all the RoW to see if one fits. Then throw something together and post it so everyone can tell you your formatting is shit and unreadible.

Then after we can read it we will usually give feed back or shitpost to switch to IW and run Iron Fire phosphex spam or what ever else is the current flavor of the month meme.

Don't worry. We are really nice but get cranky when you post illegible lists. =]

>>51527837
>Atleast until they get the rest of their gear once the next book comes out in 3 years.

Theres a preview for Angelus in the open day, my guess is its release will be sometime this year.

>>51527685
Well, a good thing about DA is that GW has a ton of DA stuff to use. The Ravenwing (command) bikes come with TL plasma guns and 2 pairs of MkVI legs (need to get extra pairs from bits stores). The robed bodies are good in that they hide the legs easily, so you can use them for various models, especially stuff like characters. The 40k starter kit also comes with good DA characters (MkVI librarian and a captain that can be used for, say, a MkIV). Even the terminators work, if you scratch off the cruxes and modify the weapons a bit.

You might even be able to make MkII suits with the DA upgrade kit from FW, some DA robed legs with the round knee pads, and CSM or Ravenwing command arms.

>>51527845
>Theres a preview for Angelus in the open day, my guess is its release will be sometime this year.

Inferno was similar. It will probably be some art of the legions in it, then we will wait a year for it to drop.

On the bright side, Thousand Sons and Space Wolves are probably the two hardest legions to make rules for so it shouldn't be too difficult for them to make some units for the last three.

>>51522718
I'm not convinced that it would actually look good.

>>51527845
My guess is that Inferno will be delayed and Angelus is actually what's on sale at the weekender.

>>51527889
>using plastics in games of The Horus Heresy

Kill yourself, you fucking casual poorfag. People like you are killing this hobby desusempai t B h.

Go back to /40kg/

>>51527903
>Thousand Sons and Space Wolves are probably the two hardest legions to make rules for
I reckon it was probably taxing to think of something that Word Bearers were actually good at.

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>>51527951
>>51527950

>>51523377
See >>51527951

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>>51527973
Aside from dying?
>Pic related

>>51523398
Glazes are probably ideal for this sort of thing. You may good results with paint diluted in Lahmian medium (not water), but it won't be as easy.

imo, use FW Clear Calth Blue but replace one of the layers with green glaze, or just use green glaze near either the top or bottoms of armor panels.

>>51523527
>>51523625
I think the idea is that FW will be lazy by simply sticking to 7th edition rules. Anything else would require new points and possibly stats for every unit entry.

The rules have to be reissued because GW will stop selling the 7th ed. 40k rulebook, so they'll be reprinted as HH rules. It'll be an opportunity for FW to make a few HH-specific changes... hopefully including multiple melta bombs.

>>51523984
Red over silver or metallic gray is more of a Word Bearers red.

>>51527546
> use OP stupid new fag read all blakbooks or GTFO
> precious OP mega link is busted- "incorrect key provided for folder"
Kill yourself

>>51527950
It would be worth it just to drink the yiff boys tears.

>>51528150
>t. TS players

>>51527685
Then only get BaC if you plan on running Land Raiders (Ironwing). For Ravenwing you might be better off skipping the plastics and just getting a million outriders and jetbikes. Those are expensive, unfortunately.

What I'm saying is... run Ironwing. You'll need book 6; the DA rules aren't in either red book yet.

>>51527951
> t. Grey plastic B@C only autist
Prove me wrong.
> ib4 NUH NAH LOOK AT MAH SWEET IWS!!1!1!!
> ib4 they look like shit, lead bleacher drenched in Nuln oil, no hightlights, no hazard stripes

>>51523142
literally every army can be alpha legion thanks to coils
>but paint job
dedicated false flags my dude
if we ever get a campaign i will offer the chance for the alpha legion player to pretend to be a totally different army until the big reveal

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I can't wait for Inferno to arrive and stop all this arguing.

>>51528156
Wrong. Both these armies are so over hyped I don't know why anyone would want to play them. But I guess I understand how SW players suffer from severe mental/moral defects

This hobby makes you say some really odd things sometimes. I legitimately just asked "Does anyone know where I can find a model of a whale about two feet long? I need one to turn it into a gunship for a bunch of mad scientists."

So I'm going to try and convert a Librarian into a 30k one, and I'm not sure about how many aesthetic differences there should be- they don't have psychic hoods, so besides the force weapon and (imo) robes, would anything be necessary?

I already made the Dark Vengeance guy into a Dangels one, this guy will either be Iron Hands or Emperor's Children. Ideas for either?

>>51528173
Ah, but Anon, his IW are special, they're LOYALIST IWs.
:^)

>>51528188
> thinks it will stop
> not realizing it will get 100 times worse, with either fan boys crying they are not good enough for the wait, or non fan boys crying that they are overpowered
Sweet summer child/rabbit.

>>51528194
Do you have a science/natural history museum near you? They often have lots of plastic models of animals in the gift shop, although don't know if they'll be two feet long.

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>>51528220
Meanwhile I'll be checkin' the new legion-specific units.

>>51528215
Mah nigga.
Seriously, even alpha fags aren't as bad as IWfags. And I say this as someone who also hates the IF autists as well.
Why can't they all be like ECfags, NLfags, and DGfags, who at least post nice pics?
Or RGfags, or Ultrafags. They never seem to cause trouble.

>>51528220
Anon, I don't care if those legion rules are the worst of them all and not using them would be more beneficial, I just want to know what things I need to consider before expanding my legion.

>>51528255
WS and Salamanderfags are the best. You hear so little about them that I sometimes even forget those legions exist.

>>51522976
damn, thats a beefy fucking power fist

>>51528236
That might work. I found a 15" one, which might have worked with some additions during conversion, but it was posed mid-dive so it would look wrong.

I'll have a look next time I'm near the museum, I guess.
They may well have an Ichthyosaur or plesiosaur model, lots of famous fossil stuff round here. That would work just as well. Thanks.

>>51528220
I'm going to enjoy everything else being overshadowed by Emps being a SURPRISE LoW for Talons of the Emperor.

>>51528194
I'm seeing 15" whale sharks and humpbacks in good searches. Consider asking elementary school science teachers for sources.

Also you're crazy.

>>51528277
Holy shit man, there are certain things that a useful no matter what, fucking buy them
> Spartans
> Sicarian battle tank
> fire raptor
> rhinos (3 at least)
> the latest biggest dread from fw released
> Contemptor with Kheres Assault cannon
> quad mortars.
There you fucking go.

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>>51528194
>TWO FUCKMACHINES PLEASE

>>51528135
>"Read the OP" = "Stupid newfag, read all blackbooks ever and/or GTFO"
Only a Word Bearer deals in extremes, anon.
Are you denying there's useful info in the OP that could solve many questions?
Also, if you could provide which links are broken so I can fix them.
I re-uploaded the Crusade Imperialis and Age of Darkness Army list, I hope they're still good.
>>51528255
>Seriously, even alpha fags aren't as bad as IWfags.
>And I say this as someone who also hates the IF autists as well.
But IWfags don't hate IFs.
Hell, some of us shipped Pollux and Dantioch so hard we were gifted an ofishul IWxIF ship:

Kalkator and Magneric's.

>>51528391
Found the fag who keeping putting the fucking Discord link in the OP.
Seriously, stop that shit. No one is coming to an anonymous board thinking "you know what I would REALLY like? To join a site and namefag!!!!"
Also, how is the podcast going? Just joking, I know it's shit.

>>51528387
>"how do I into reading comprehension" the post

"Expand," anon, I specifically used the word "expand."

>>51528442
Nah.
Placed it once, no one ever bothered to remove it from there. As such, Breadanon and EC goose and I suspect Uni have """placed""" the link there too.
I'm not on the podcast thing, I myself am not one to listen to anything that isn't music or news.

>>51528442
Also, calm thine tits, son.
Go read the OP, there's probably something for that in there too :^)

How dickish is using Knights in 30k? I love them, butI don't want to be a jerk for throwing one into my legion list.

>>51528506
So you have, painted and based, multiple copies of all those listed units.
With decals.
With all the multiple weapon options.
If the answer is NO, you have plenty of shit to keep you busy until you get special snowflake shit.

>>51528541
with the prevalance of spartans and the like, most armies will be able to handle them

>>51528541
One or two is fine.
Questoris list is broken and makes the game unfun, unless the other guy is allowed to list tailor really hard.
Atrapos is like a hairs width from pure cheese however.

>>51528358

Yes, I am crazy. What gave it away? ;)

Although if this works it might actually be mildly interesting. Most of my conversion is fairly cookie-cutter stuff.

>>51528391
Not quite that odd, but still a strange thing to go looking for out of the blue. Now I've had the idea I can't help but think of cool things to add to it, though. I always do this, I have ideas in massive groups and then forget to write any down. I should keep a sketchbook, but I can't draw for shit.

>>51528541

One tends to be pretty much fine, since most people have tools to crack Flare and Ceramite Spartans and that means they probably have counters. Just try not to gloat too much when Stomp onehits Horus and half his Justaerin, and I know it's hard, and you'll be fine.

>>51528586
>>51528595
Just a normal Battle Cannon Knight?

>>51528541
You can only get one for every 500pts in games that are bigger than 2000pts, its fine.

>>51528613
Just the one? Like I said, that should never be an issue. Hell the GW Knights are all pretty tame.
The FW ones are generally (surprise surprise) where shit starts to get out of hand

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>>51528541
They are fine only if they are correctly pimped.

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>>51528569
>[maximum damage control]

Anon, I have all the units I feel are necessary for my army at the moment. But before I see what the legion rules, RoWs and possible special units are, I don't feel confident in expanding my collection until I know on what things the rules lean on, if there's an RoW I might like to use, or maybe there's a legion unit that happens to suit me. I'm not going to just buy random models to appease you.

For a person who's so mad about people bitching, you sure as hell do bitch a lot.

>>51528442
>discord link in the OP
Hmm maybe people just copy paste the previous OP sans thread summary, as you know it's basically always a rush to make a thread before the last one 404's.
For someone who seems to not care about the discord it sure does annoy you.
Also first episode should be recorded this Saturday, although the plan was not to tell anyone until it was published to prevent butthurt, but we clearly have a case of it prematurely over here.
Finally, you hate the name part of discord, but were you aware you can change everyone's name to Anon for you so it's just the colours which identify legions that set people out
>>51528255
What is bad apples ruining a bunch
>>51528213
A force weapon can be anything, but all other aesthetics depend upon your legion, allegiance and timeframe
>>51527951
If more people bought from FW not china I'd agree with you, but you haven't reprimanded them so adios

>>51528541
Depends on which knight, a FW Knights with alternate head gives you mercy points, everything else is hard to justify
>>51528613
Yeah 100% Kosher

So then what legions post in what fashion?

>IW- ironically the bitter men of action are mostly played by autistic special snowflakes. There's a handful of chill guys that actually paint beyond Leadbelcher Primers+Dumping a load of Nuln Oil

>AL- memelords the lot of them, though usually pretty funny at that. Tolerable overall, but one would except to hear less out of the mystery legion

>SM- Pretty chill bros overall, doing justice to their legion themes. Some pretty dope models have come from their players master-crafted, almost ;^)

>RG- Special Snowflakes to an extent (meaning they want to be good in a world of bad), but the fact the majority are decently well-informed and have some cool models/conversions makes up for it

>UM- Usually just post about how much WB suck.

>WB- Usually just post about how much UM suck.

>IF- Special Snowflake like their nemesis legion, I swear to this day not a single person has just made a vanilla fists legion. Which is funny, since they're literally THE vanilla legion.

>SW- intolerable fags the lot of them, they do justice to their legion by being arguementative faggots that just HAVE to be different than everyone else, even when that's a stupid as fuck idea. 10/10 in both shitposting and fluffiness.

>TS- to intelligent too actually make armies and will never play, or at least until Inferno comes out (but I repeat myself)

>SH- Well Lord Duncan plays them, so pass right there, but they aren't losing for painting either. Good work assholes.

>NL- great for conversions, but not so much for content. Like their ADB, they just HAVE to put the fedora/edginess up to a ten. But most of the time it's ironic, so plus or minus points for that

>DA- cryptically quiet, but annoying when they start to do anything. So another fluffy legion!

>>51528718
>SM
>using two letters to abbreviate one word
Srs bro
>Nl
>no mention of curzefag
U high m8

>>51528718
>DG - stoically getting shit done (i.e. painting their models) with little fanfare

>>51528718
>IF- Special Snowflake like their nemesis legion, I swear to this day not a single person has just made a vanilla fists legion. Which is funny, since they're literally THE vanilla legion.
Well actually my Fists are-
>SW- intolerable fags the lot of them, they do justice to their legion by being arguementative faggots that just HAVE to be different than everyone else, even when that's a stupid as fuck idea. 10/10 in both shitposting and fluffiness.
Oh, this is just bait never mind.

>>51528718
IH-cold lurkers devoid of personality or gigantic egos, rarely post if ever, but when they do its all anger all the time

>>51528718
>WE- you'd expect posts resembling one banging there head incessantly against the keyboard until you mange to solve the captcha from these guys, but strangely the posts are mostly thought-out and well informed. On the flip side, I'm beginning to doubt any actually play, since they never post fucking models

>DG- good to bad models, and good to bad posters. Most likely to win 'smelly neckbeard award'.

>WS- not sure why they never post, maybe Internet is too slow for them?

>BA- What even is there to say? Good models, but they're only ever posted as the other guys army. Then again, if they were true to their legion I doubt they'd hang around an Armenian candelabra debate site

>EC- make nice models, but not nice posts. At least they're pretty.

>IH- i'm sorry who? Oh, right, the headless guys. Yeah, never heard of 'em.

>BS- if playing stupid was why they got kicked out of the legion, then their player base is the fluffiness one yet! But they seem to put in the effort, so no gripes here

>SA- I'm waiting for someone to actually collect a big army. Like seriously stop taking about doing it, they're expensive as fuck but ten times cooler. And if you do, then post damn it!

>AD- waacfag autists, so hitting straight home.

What are the chances we might get a WIP Primarch exposition at the Weekender?

>>51528748
>Spacewolves
I dunno if it's just AWG switching betweeen name/no name, but yeah they do tend to be arguementative as fuck. In time I hope more people than just the 'I like wolves and being better than you,' but due to sample size it's not looking good for them. Maybe Inferno fixes it, but I'm not convinced.

>Imperial Fists
Plllleeeeeaaasseeee post them, I've been looking ages for a half-decent take that isn't silver or Templar. Google gives crappy results for stuff, but I'd absolutely love to see some more of the basic guys.

>>51528917
One of the designers has a massive hard on for papa sang, and Angelus has a preview, so eleventy-seven of the percents.

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>>51528945
One of them posted here once.
>>51528887
KA has a WE army. Still in progress, I hear, but has them.

>>51528945
Don't worry, I'm not interested in arguing about SW in the slightest. It's quite clear any discussion that's not memetic mockery isn't welcome, so I'm just gonna talk about everything else and keep my army a shameful secret of stock models in grey paintjob and some red and black markings. You won't get any trouble from me.

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Here's my 2000pt list of the things I currently have

Imperial Fists, Pride of the Legion

>HQ
Delegatus [Combi-Plasma, Refractor Field, Artificer Armor]

>Troops
2x Veteran Squads[9x Veterans, 2x Heavy Bolters, 1xSergeant w/ Combi-Flamer] Rhino

2x Veteran Squads[9x Veterans, 2x Missile Launchers, 1xSergeant] Rhino

>Fast Attack
Seeker Squad [6x Seekers+1xSgt] Rhino, Delegatus goes here.

>Elites
2x Dreadnoughts[Multi-Melta+Powerfist]

>Heavy Support
2x Basilisks

>Fortifications
Munitorum Containers [3x Containers]

Containers are there to basically twin-link the entire army when in their deployment zone and it fits the fluff of the Delegatus being sent to gather legion forces and equipment and send it back to Terra.

>>51528945
There is a guy that posts his beautiful Imperial Fists but mainly in /wip/.

>>51528541
Keep it to one at 2000 points or two at 3000, and no one should complain.

A lot of armies can handle more, but some assault-oriented ones can't. Games that come down to army composition paper-scissors-rock aren't much fun.

>>51528887

You forgot QK and IMaWC.

>>51529077
Inferno will set things right, the FW Blackbook-way.
Never been interested in the SW, but also wasn't interested in the DG and then Blam, I read HH1.

Some of your minis are trigger-y, though. Like with KA, moderation and caution is advised.

>>51529040
>>51529108
Cool stuff. I'll have to find them, thanks amigos

>>51529077
>this much passive-aggressiveness
If you've got an army you've yet to show off, please do post it. The models for SW aren't a problem, it's just the sheer level of mindless shitposting. And to be honest, you're not yet breaking the trend

>>51529164
>Some of your minis are trigger-y

I'm sorry. I'll check my privilege and get rid of them.

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>>51529178
The passive aggressive guy is AWG

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>>51529182
>I'll check my privilege
Let the Inferno do it for (You).
Trigger-y minis should be expected from the SW, after all. So, good job being fluffy, I guess?

I mean, just look at that ridiculous CANON hairesy.

>>51529206
Oh. Fucking duh, I can't believe I didn't see it. Well, as per usual, fuck you Space Wolves!

>>51529178
See, this is why I don't even identify my army.

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>>51522653
Oh, I feel it

>>51529225
Not quite following you there. Explain.

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>>51529178

>>51529225
>identify with my army
>Polygirl Xem slaps your ass in the nightclub
>She asks what you identify as
>Response
>Siege-Engineer of the 4th Legion, 1st Cohort, Prefectarri SIR
>'so how feminine does that make your penis'

>>51526062
>Legio Sinister
12 Imperator Titans, done

>>51526062

The two IA forces along with the Censure Host are Terranic Auxilia and Tyrian Exo-Guard. One will guaranteed be Solar Auxilia, no idea about the other.

>>51523377
>>51523457
>>51524000
Using 40k models makes playing the game look like a regular game of 40k with some Imperial Armour toys instead of looking like a game of 30k.

You're trading aesthetics for frugality to play a game where people value aesthetics higher than normal, simple as that. It's just that people can't express themselves properly so it always devolves into poorfags vs. armour autists shitflinging.

>>51528541
Just let your opponent know if you're taking two. One, even an Atrapos, is manageable. Two can be difficult depending on legion. Three and you're probably playing points levels just before apoc and it will be fine.

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>>51528255
I want to say it's WBfags but nope it has to be the ALfags. We just need to replace the leaf with Alpharius or an AL legionary.

>>51528529
>BreadAnon
Hey I just copied and pasted it every time I have time to make these threads.

>>51529286
Is it wrong to think this is how I imagine an interaction with Trap would be?
:^)

>>51529379
I disagree.
At first I defended leafs here, or rather I was neutral on the Fookin Leaf issue.
But holy shit, australian shitposting at least is funny.
WB is Canada-tier and vice versa.

>>51529395
A namefag without a trip is so weird they'll probably have a masculine libia

>>51528595
In what way is the Atrapos cheese? A friend of mine has one, but he's barely played with it and I just assumed it was his AdMech that were cheesy.

>>51529415
Now that you mention it the WBs are Canadians. I'm suddenly remembering how Lorgar got told that if he killed Rowboat that the Heresy would turn out differently.
>if you kill your enemies, they win
Lorgar is 40k version of Caliph Weedman Castro.

>>51528718
>>TS- to intelligent too actually make armies and will never play, or at least until Inferno comes out (but I repeat myself)
I'll have you know I've painted a whole 6 dudes since November and have a whole zero games organised for the future ever.

>>51529363
Only if your only frame of reference to HH is FW. Before that all the material we got was assorted, badly drawn armour marks and vehicles in legion colours and markings. I value aesthetics greatly, it's just not FW's aesthetics. I want the HH I remember, not this New HH with Lime.

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>>51529452
Feels appropiate to post this today.

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>>51528718
>(meaning they want to be good in a world of bad)
I've yet to meet a 30k RG player that wasn't on the Pale Nomad side of the spectrum. And if they're full PN then at least 30% of their molecular structure is made of murder and/or ghosts of the innocent.

>RG- Rare, posts could go one of two ways: When they give you a vague sense of unease as they gloss casually over the enemy casualty rate and nonchalantly use the word 'murder' or are beakie fueled conversions.

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>>51529558
RG poster checking in.

I like my dudes because of thier flexibility, and general pragmatism in game and in fluff. Primarch has some personal issues but at least weregeld put some of the shit in the novellas that originally made me REEEE into better and more acceptable perspective.

Can confirm that conversions are half the fun of doing post-isstvan RG, since the complete reorganization of the legion and use as a mechanicum testbed prior allows a lot of room for 'prototype' gear.

pics to come of some stuff I'm doing when I can be fucked to set up my lightbox (and stop wanting to hang myself for building two stormravens)

>>51529663
stormeagles. fuck I'm tired

>>51529480
Preferring pre-FW HH aesthetics is understandable and it would explain carefully mixing armour marks (MkVII included) and using janky OOP models from 40k, but it doesn't justify using modern 40k models mostly as-is since they look even less like pre-FW HH than FW does.

>>51529286
>'so how feminine does that make your penis'
Bitterly feminine.

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>>51528255
>Who post nice pics

Nigger there's a single EC poster that posts the same pics over and over.

And I remember a few threads back when someone asked for legion and nationality all the IW were solid to good, and, funnily enough, were all by non-Americans, while all the uglies from other legions were from Americans.

At least IW players post pics of nicely painted models. I haven't seen any model (recently) that lacked hazard stripes or a paintjob that was terrible. On the other hand, I can vividly picture a thick AL player, AWG's horrid SW that are just primed, a SoH player who paints his dudes thicker than a Latina's ass, a DG player whose models look like they were puked on and a TS that turned his dudes into candies by making them too shiny. And don't even get me started on the numerous black Legions with highlights looking like they were applied by a 9 years old with Parkinson's.

>>51529558

Carcharodons are probably just more popular than RG these days. You have to meet some very specific requirements to see 30K Deliverance RG:

- You played RG in 40K and have enough beakies for 30K, and also are interested in playing 30K.
- You are interested in the 40K style RG enough to play them in 30K even though they look nearly identical.

Compare that to:

- You like Carcharodons.
- You play Carcharodons in 40K.
- You like tattoos.
- You like blood and chain weapons.
- You like visually interesting armies.

By inserting all the Carcharodon stuff into 30K, FW unwittingly made a far more successful path for Terran RG than actual RG.

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>>51529779
Yeah my AL do look kinda crappy. But oh well, only want them to be tabletop quality.

Bad idea list of the day for me. This needs a lot of work. Advice is welcome. That or garbage cans so I can throw out this pile of trash.

Blackshield: Outlanders
Raider Force Org (from HH4)

All Elites units are counted as scoring units, while Troops choices are Denial units only.

Choose 1:
-Night Fighting rules are automatically in effect for the first turn, and the second turn on a 4+.
-Grant D3+2 of the Raider player's units the Infiltrate and Outflank special rules.
-The Raider player may re-roll any dice rolled to determine which player takes the first turn, and Siezes the Initiative on a 4+ instead of the usually required score.

Outlander Deepstrike Section
232:: Blackshield Reaver Lord
Halo Blade, Rad Grenades, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Tartaros Termi, Volkite
235:: Tartatos Termies 5man
Volkites, PFs

270:: Destroyers 10man
AA Armor, Phosphex Bomb x1
270:: Destroyers 10man
AA Armor, Phosphex Bomb x1

Raider Infiltrate Section
210:: Quad Launchers 3 Mortors
Shatter Shells

600:: Leviathan Talon 2 Dreads
Armoured Ceramite, 2xClaws, 2xVolkites

135:: Mortis Boxnaught
Autocannons

270:: Recon Squad 10man
Recon Armor, Paraih Bolters, Cameleoline, Nuncio-Vox, AA, PF, Rad Grenades

270:: Recon Squad 10man
Recon Armor, Paraih Bolters, Cameleoline, Nuncio-Vox, AA, PF, Rad Grenades

>>51529803
actually if you read fluff, mark IV is just as good as mark VI. so RG done off calth boxes is fine as long as you're not too far after DSM/Ravendelve.

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r8 my army so far

>>51530082
resin/10.

what legion? the one shoulderpad facing the camera is difficult to make out with the shadows.

>>51530106
>>51530082 (You)
The shoulderpad fag is just an apothecary, my legion doesn't have pauldrons yet. I'm playing Death Guard so I feel like giving every other guy a super fancy pauldron would be frivolous in Morty's eyes.

>>51529463
It's not quite cheese, just good for its points. The new FAQ ruins its ability to fire at the same target with both arms, but I don't think anyone's taking that ruling seriously.

>>51529040
> flat coats
> zero highlights
> mold lines
Why you make Father Dorn cry anon? Why

>>51530039
Leviathans don't work well without drop pods - Kharybdises in this case.

>>51529108
> posts in /wip/ instead of here
I guess IF players are just smarter, is all.

>>51530372

They can get infiltrate with this so they start 18-12 in from the targets instead of your deployment zone

>>51529211
There is a difference between shit FW makes, and GW slapping some of their shit art on a page with the go to FW font and page lay out

>>51529379
Can someone Paint up that but with an IW fag instead? I would be grateful.

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>>51530353
It looks fine, anon.
Besides, Dorn has better things to worry about.

>>51529463
It's not cheesy, it's just good for it does. It's up there with the Acheron for efficiency.

Real talk; Knights generally are barely worth their points. They seem big and scary but have glaring weaknesses. A common mistake fighting them is not committing to bringing it down. I see it often, a player will shoot at it, maybe roll poorly, and decide to try to focus on the rest of the army instead.

>>51530349
Only if that unit is a single bike/infantry model. Everything else isn't small enough

>>51530412
Shilling for the WB, I see.

>>51529463
I said CLOSE to cheese. Very fucking close.
A combination of D cc weapon (with built in 9 inch D shot), extra hull points, a gun that can make D vortex, and a mother fucking flare shield. It's better at doing just about every other Knights job, and more survivable to boot.

>>51529779
> All IW models 'solid to good'
Bitch maybe you should take those faggy Kayne shades off, because GOOD IW models are the mother fucking EXCEPTION.
Never mind the fact it's 1000 fucking meme posts per model pic, of which 99% are pure shit.

>>51530188
No you are just a cheap ass.

>>51530417
If that's fine, then truly hhg is lost.

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>>51530549
I think this is a more recent pic.
I like his style, looks as if the armour was made of plaster.
A literal wall.

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>>51530412
One day I will make a /hhg/ version out of /pol/'s anti-Canadian pics. But today is not that day.
>/hhg/ under Word Bearer and Alpha Legion posting

>>51530531
n-no you...
The other reason is I don't wanna fuck with weathering those things, so I'll probably just use them on sergeants and veterans.

>>51530583
Now that's a nice Fist.

>>51529698

As a new HH player, I agree. There's no reason not to use at least MKIII or MKIV anymore besides laziness. The BoC/BoP boxes are fantastic, especially the latter.

>>51522976
The arms work fine with Mark IV upwards.

The legs can be justified on 5 fine as well (might want to put some studs in the leg though).

>>51528718
>>IF- Special Snowflake like their nemesis legion, I swear to this day not a single person has just made a vanilla fists legion. Which is funny, since they're literally THE vanilla legion.
What do you mean by this?

>>51525866
Hey im going too.
I'll be lugging around a black and blue trimmed backpack as a secret handshake.

Still not sure if im taking much else with me

>>51530583
Literally zero improvement.
Is this some kind of a troll, where you are trying to secretly take the pissed out of him, while pretending to defend him?... or something?

>>51530583
>>51530736
the light speckling looks more like a primer issue than paint. yellow is ok and there is shading in the edges, black does need a highlight though.

it could be far, far worse and at least it's a proper 30k fists scheme instead of 40k as 30k by someone who doesn't know better. also yellow isn't patchy which is the most common problem with fists.

>>51530736
Better than a number of people here, and sure as hell better than the unpainted hordes. It's no Golden Demon, but it's acceptable.

>>51530583
Would admire on tabletop/10
>yellow basing
I TAKE IT BACK REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>51530721
>what do you mean by this
It's more joke than accusation, but you have to admit it's a little odd that the legion most likely to have little/no variation from "standard" Marines tends to have most of its players attracted to the special branches (Templar, knight guys, red guy, etc.). I just find it strange is all

>>51529698
So >>51522836 is just full reee?

Advice for customizing a Raven Guard? I just got B@C and I wanna go full Drop Pod spam with them. I'm thinking Istvaan 5 fluff, probably post massacre when they're all fucked up.

>>51530965
Maybe it wasn't finished? He posted it a while ago. Several weeks IIRC.
>>51530736
Gee anon, tabletop standard doesn't mean "Golden Daemon runner ups". Mind sharing some examples either you or this thread have come across, rather than digging them out of google that is.

>>51531029
Actually yes, depending on how bold you want to be. Reading "Deliverance Lost" now and it mention how the retreating Raven guard had to scavenge armor off of dead friends and foes for repairs, so you could do something cool like that.

A World Eaters helmet here, a Salamanders pauldron there, it could look really unique and break up the black RG scheme. Extra points if you can somehow mimic the heraldry of their enemies being scratched out hastily by the angry marines scavenging those parts.

>>51530995
I think you're misjudging the character of the Imperial Fists.
Someone's been posting a snippet of Dorn talking about superficial divisions not being important recently, and that's been part of what I've found interesting about the IF, even in 40k, since they recruit from all over and diversity is unironically their strength.

The Fists are also one of the biggest legions, so their supposed "vanillaness" is more just what's common among their subunits being highlighted rather than saying "everyone is wolves/romans/black fire guys".

>>51531033
Nigger no one is asking God for fucking Golden Daemon class work. Priest that skilled don't post on this God forsaken site.
However, base coat, wash, layer, highlight isn't too fucking much to ask. For fucks sake Duncan has shit out easy to follow videos on all that stuff. There isn't an excuse anymore.

>>51531029
well, for clarification are you doing them post Ist V and post Ravendelve?

My own that I talked about in these two posts:
>>51529663
>>51530074
are done to match the stuff in deliverance lost/novellas/shorts from the HH series, and the one thing to be aware of is that the classic legion markings as seen in Extermination (Page 139) were not all widely used after the escape because of legion reorganization and squads having to fulfill multiple roles at different times. Also depending on how far after ravendelve you are doing only assault companies/sergeants/commanders and legion specials should have mark VI armor, however it was sometime after Yarant that the legion finally became predominantly Mk VI with resupplies from spun-up manufacturing on Kiavahr.

If you're doing a foot-slog centric list for on the ground during the 98 days, then absolutely go for >>51531143 's suggestion, as that would definitely get across the bashed up nature of the force, investment in FW's desert weathering powders will also help a great deal.

I have a Dreadclaw on the way, but I don't know what to put inside it. Instinct tells me Termies, but I'm NL so can just teleport down. A melta support squad would be cool, but I feel the assault capacities are wasted. A MM+CF Contemptor maybe?

>>51531263
Change the record or post all your minis already.

Hello is it Inferno already?

>>51532114

48 hours, anon, and we will know.

>>51532114
every time you ask it gets delayed another month

>>51532000
Dreadnoughts or weapon master veterans perhaps

>>51532161
Is it Inferno now?
Is it Inferno now?
Is it Inferno now?
Is it Inferno now?

>>51532161
I want to sleep until it is released, but >>51532202 wants me to sleep longer than Guilliman and the Lion.

>>51532221

About 48 hours from now the Weekender will be in full swing and we'll know everything there is to know about Inferno.

>by the time I wake up tomorrow people should have the book
What a time to be alive.

>>51532221
Guilliman isn't asleep, he's in stasis. He's been experiencing a single moment of excruciating pain and failure for thousands of years.

>>51532259

Most of us won't have the book. And this time we're going to need to either buy it ourselves or expect a shitty phonecam copy.

>>51531263
Lord Duncan does but I for example, I am an absolute noob at painting. Highlighting is something I need to work on because I suck at it.

Attitudes like yours that are so hostile for no real reason are the problem. You don't know if thats a finished model. You don't know if he's just aiming for tabletop. Rather than be a raging asshole about acceptable painting standards why not throw out something more constructive.

>>51530583
Speckling is definitely primer had same issue myself with my first attempt at priming. Nice consistency on the yellow though very nice job.
>>51530904 is right the black needs a highlight.

>>51530965
Pretty sure that's a work in progress. I'll take yellow base over just primed or worse not a drop of paint.

>>51532196
>weaponmaster vets

Ooh, I like that, actually. It's a shame only the characters can take chain glaives, but still, that potential 2+ to hit sounds juicy. They don't even need fear at that point. They probably will from the Praetor regardless, but still.

8 vets, apoth, and Praetor sounds like a nice bomb.

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Reminder that Golden Demon standard is not a high level.

>>51532292
You don't have time to feel if you're in stasis, anon. Your own conscience is in stasis too.

>>51532370
>8 vets, apoth, and Praetor sounds like a nice bomb.
It is? Isn't the game filled with people with 2+/4++ and AP2 weapons, riding in Flare shielded melta-proof Spartans under the cover of AP2 Barrages?

>>51532408
>using a 13 year old example

Post a recent GD winner faggot

>>51532453
Thats only in WAACfag circles.

>>51532453

I'm sorry you play in unfun turbo waacland.

>>51529779
>"Solid to Good"
>IW

Dipping your shit in Leadbelcher than Nuln Oil and calling it a day is not "Solid to Good"

IW posters are pleb as fuck...boring same same paint jobs all around and lists too since most are just same same Iron Fire lists over and over again.

>>51532424
Not if he's slowly healing though.

>>51522653
The subatomic penetration rapid firing through my skull?

>>51532856
Das Imperial propaganda, anon :V

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>>51532779
>boring same same paint jobs all around and lists too since most are just same same Iron Fire lists over and over again.
OOOCH, I FORGOT ABOUT OUR HUGE VARIETY OF ALTERNATE COLOUR SCHEMES
WE HAVE IRON, GUNMETAL AND SLIGHTLY DARKER GUNMETAL ;^)

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>>51530689
>>51530965
>>51530736
>>51530904
>>51532318
Found a more recent pic of him. Or so I guess, due to the base.

>>51532527

>1994 is 13 years ago

>>51533617
The setting has been M41 for like 30 years, anon. Can't blame him much

>>51533656

>The setting has been M41
>its a Horus Heresy thread

>>51533681
The main setting.
I think Horus Rises was published in 2006 but I don't know what date that book is set in.
By this point, the telling of the series has lasted more than the actual heresy, hasn't it?

>>51533591
black highlighted and even more shading, decent base. pretty good result. I'd love to see the same thing without the primer problem.