/bbg/ Blood Bowl General - Easiest Team Edition

Would anyone mind if played some of the boxed games lineman as blitzers without converting them?

>>51520573
As long as they are recognizable.
Put something on their bases and say "The linemen with this thing are actually blitzer" and I don't think people will complain much

>>51520573
If someone is an irredeemable asshole, then he will mind. Otherwise >>51520623

TWO OGRES

>>51521644
Gee Billy
Also after watching some of SL teams, i cannot say i am overly impressed with prospect of having 2 big guys on the team.

>>51521692
Welp, at least Bonehead is the "best" negatrait of them.

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Hey anon, don't leave the game, you can have what's in the Secret Legendary Edition Box.

So guys, what do you think is going to be in BB2 Legendary Edition?

Underworld? PLEASE?

>>51520573
They look damn near identical anyway. Just paint/mark them in some way to differentiate them and no one who isn't a total sperglord will care.

What the fuck is a "pixel hugger"? Keep seeing the term while browsing FUMBBL for strats.

>>51521997
Someone who cares about their players enough that they make objectively bad decisions regarding firing and apothecary use.

>>51521997
Someone who will make plays that lead to losing or drawing the game so their players stay safe.

>>51522045
>>51522065
Fair enough. I was under the impression the Your Dudes nature of the game and getting attached to players and their stories (like "forging the narrative" that GW seem to want players to do with 40k) was one of the main draws of the game, but I guess if you start doing dumb shit like wasting apothecaries on Snotlings because they got a few skill ups or whatever, that's pretty idiotic.

>>51522208
Your Dudes is a part of it, but death is a natural part of BB.

>>51522208
the whole pixel hugging thing is a pretty stupid concept most of the time, unless someone takes it to the extreme (fouling their blodge kroxigor out of the game turn 3 cause an apo was used or something) you obviously are supposed to try and keep your guys alive, with the exception of a couple teams like goblins and ogres where you don't care about your linemen. people who complain about pixel hugging are probably the nerds who stack cpomb and win by virtue of having twice or more players cause that's the only way they can anyway.

Should kill-teams be nerfed?

Even when I win, it's basically a phyrric victory, I prefer going agaisnt dwarfs than agaisnt developed Chaos/Nurgle.

Am I just being a pussy?

>>51522548
get a bench and dirty players. the only way you can beat cpomb without a sour taste in your mouth is to foul the fuck out of his guys every time they pile on

>>51522548
They were.

>>51522507
>people who complain about pixel hugging are probably the nerds who stack cpomb

Those were the exact people I saw using the phrase, so that seems accurate.

>>51522705
God I fucking hate cpomb. Why does Piling On even exist?

>>51522745
To be nerfed you faggot elf

>>51522745
That's probably the reason they have taken it out from the actual new rule book, and have relegated it as an optional, nerfed rule

>>51522745
piling on should be reserved for big guys. making it cost a reroll is fucking stupid, it's gonna be like thick skull now. literally never gotten. atleast if big guys could use it then underworld troll would be happy, and it might give chaos and chorfs a reason to get the minotaur

What happened to Piling On?

>>51522949
to pile on you need to use a team reroll.

>>51522949
Made optional rule and cost a team RR instead of a skill RR.

>>51522972
>>51522963
I wonder why they didn't just make Claw and Mighty Blow incompatible with it.

Hell, even just Claw.

>>51522894
>piling on should be reserved for big guys

This. Would've been a much cleaner nerf than the haphazard adjustments made in the 2016 rulebook that are just sloppy and weird.

>>51522983
They printed that in the rule book too, then removed it in the errata.

>>51522983
PO is the strongest link in the combo and the one that actually makes clawpomb work so effectively. ClawMB has a significant lower chance of at least a ko when PO isn't used and stops killstack teams from having 2 blizters and maybe at worst some LoS players with it and just abuse the skill with everyblock.

Is BB2 going to update the rules to the new Tabletop ones? Like the PO nerf?

>>51523058
They've just announced legendary edition, so maybe.

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http://fumbbl.com/p/player?player_id=11583882

Because fuck you that's why.

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>>51523123
Say that to my face faggot

>>51523162
I ain't even mad i lost that game because my chainsaw got the last laugh when that tree didn't even break armor the first block.

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>Nerf Piling On But Not Claw

>>51524079
>av9 teams should be invincible
Claw wasn't the problem, PO was.

>>51524096
Except it was only the problem on 40+ game teams (1,8k TV and more). Good luck getting a player to level 5 to get the whole combo in a League environment. Kill mutation teams are still going to be killing. Humans, orcs, norse and the like didn't deserve to get nerfed together with them.

WHEN'S KHEMRI?

>>51524129
I'm sorry you can't play bash as easily anymore.

>>51524167
But I can. And I will.

>>51524129
>taking claw before PO

Who are you quoting?

>>51524096
PO is stronger than claw, but i feel like pomb is not a problem without claw, you don't see people complaining about killstacks orc teams with 8 pomb, without claw killer players are very good,maybe a little too much, but without claw they aren't game breaking at all. I think it was nice to have a very efficient killer in most teams.

So both of my mummies just died and a ghoul got -1 ag. I still have both of my wights with guard and all ghouls have block. I only have 180k in the bank. Should I start over?

>>51525585
That all happened in a single game? Who were you against?

>>51525585
That depends on your attitude towards the game, mostly.

>>51525585
Not worth it, go new.

>>51525792
Lizardmen. Both times I blocked a kroxigor, got a skull and both down results, chose the latter obviously and the opponent managed to kill them.

>>51525980
Oh and the ghoul just failed a second GFI.

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Why do Welshmen have ladyparts?

>>51527830
I would think that that is obvious.

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Goblins fucking rule

>>51528285
Not on BB2 they don't

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WHAT THE FUCK IS GONNA BE ON BLOODBOWL 2 LEGENDARY EDITION??

I DON'T WANT TO GET FUCKED AGAIN, COME ON CYANIDE, PLEASE.

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>>51529254
Should've been smart enough to not buy bb2

Rolled 58 + 10 (1d58 + 10)

apo roll

Hey guys how should I Play nurgle against Orks and Lizardmen if they don't have big guys and are going for a bashy game?

>>51531546
Nugle is bash no matter who you play. Against other bash you bash harder than they do. Hopefully you have claws.

>>51531546
you lose unless it's atleast 1500 + tv then you just cpomb them and win

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Ereptile Dysfunction = Lizardmen
Ragin Contagion = Nurgle.

ED | 5 Skinks, 6 Saurus
RC | 4 Warriors, 1 Beast, 5 Rotters, 1 Pest

ED is league commissioner's team. RC is mine.

>>51534336

Both deaths were Saurus? Please say yes.

>>51534900
Yes. The Skinks were too dodge happy

>>51534336
Did he have a krox? If not what the hell is he doing.

>>51534336
haha i play dice games and complain when the dice dont go my way haha

>>51534336
Mhhhh all the delicious tears. GJ.

>>51534336
Falling rocks cause lizardmen team to go extinct

Any new Blood Bowl stuff in the new White Dwarf for Blitzmania or is it all just 40k primarch end times whatever?

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=934952

Fumpers versus elf my league up

What are the differences between friendly games and regular games in a league? I remember the differences being pretty minor, but I can't for the life of me find the actual rules in Death Zone.

>>51544483
Nevermind, found it (no MVP, generate d3 x 10,000 winnings rather than d6). Was looking for a section specifically about Friendlies, rather than bullet points in the post-match sequence.

>>51544483
winnings are D3 instead of D6. no MVP award at the end of the game. no league points scored.
basically half the benefits, same dangers. you still get SPP for everything other than MVP, but injuries and deaths still count.

>>51544483
>>51544661
>>51544665
So why play them?

>>51544855
>why play them
if you league has a limit of competition matches played per season, then you can still score some extra SPP, and also a way to gather some money between matches, in case you need to re-buy an expensive positional.
also, you can have your players with "Miss Next Game" injuries sit out the friendly, and get back on their feet for the competition match.

I need some advice on leveling my chaos team.
I have five lvl2 players close to getting their next skill.
2 chaos warriors with Block
1 beastman with sure hands
1 beastman with leader
1 beastman with block

I'm thinking of giving the leader kick as his next skill, since I'm trying to keep him safe. that extra reroll he gives came in handy so far.
I'm trying to make the sure hands beast my dedicated ball carrier, but I'm not sure what to give him next.

I have no plans for the block-beast yet. thought about making him an escort for the ball carrier, or making him a dedicated blitzer.

I just got my shit pushed in by an orc team, so I'm considering giving my chaos warriors claw for the next skill up, since there are a lot of orcs in the league.

what do /tg/, what do?

>>51546329

Guard
Guard
Block
Block
MB

Never get Claw before MB

MB>PO>Claw/tackle

>>51546329

Kick for your leader piece sounds ok.

Give block to your ball carrier - it's crucial, then probably fend or two heads.

Go with block, mighty blow, pilling on, tackle for your blitzing beastmen,

Chaos warriors progression is a matter of taste. I always go with guard on my CWs, but you can turn them easily into cpombers or even into st4 ball carriers.

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Final call on sekrit league singups. 12 hours left.

Rolled 2 (1d6)

ge-fye

Rolled 6 (1d6)

>>51550629
double gfi into the end zone

Any advice for fighting Necromantic as Vampires? I always get my shit pushed in against them as pretty much all their dudes seem to bounce back whenever I actually manage to injure them due to regeneration, while my own team slowly but surely implodes due to bloodlust. That, and werewolves and ghouls zipping past me with their crazy movement.

>>51554089
Position deep to catch their high ma pieces, use hypnotic gaze to clear a path to the carrier, don't waste re-rolls on every bloodlust if you don't need to

>>51554089
>>51555784
Actually, fuck it, what's your team comp and what skills you got?

>>51555799
It'll be first match of the league, so no skills yet. Team comp is probably going to be 4 vamps, 7 thralls, 4 rerolls (it's more vamps than is really safe, but I like having multiple sources of Hypnotic Gaze), but that's not set in stone. It's just that there's two Necromantic teams in the league and they've always been a bad match up for me.

>>51556132
>11 players

you'll be slaughtered, don't do it anon

Season 3 of Secret has begun.

>>51556145
Fair enough. How deep a bench should I go for? If I drop a Vamp I can go 3 Vamps/9 Thralls/4 re-rolls and have 30k left over to guarantee another thrall after my first game (or save it for an apothecary or something).

Am I the only one that thinks that Block is just too good?
It seems to me that no other skill can compete with it when you level up for the first time with most units in the game
But I don't have any idea about how to change/nerf it either

>>51558702
You could split it in half, Offensive version and defensive version.

Ball carriers take the defensive version first and are not also good blitzers.

Murderers take the Offensive version and can still be taken down.

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=935275

first secret game. Pitch invasion.

>>51558702
I thought I was the only one that felt that way, although admittedly I am a BB noob.

>>51558801
This looks like a good idea, although you'd also have to split up skills like dodge to keep them at an even level.

>>51559374
>have to split up skills like dodge to keep them at an even level.

If you split up Block and dodge then that basically brings them in line with most other skills. Maybe give MB the ole nerf bat, and that's all the really powerful skills.

>>51559374
>>51560541
Just make every skill shit, perfect!

>>51560541
>>51559374
>>51558801
no

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A sexy secret league game incoming in 20 minutes!

>>51560851
I await the link slut league

How much punishment am I going to take while playing Dark Elves?
I'm used to play Necromantic, so I don't know if I'm mentally ready to play an Elf team
I 4 blitzers, 7 linemen and two rerolls the best starting team

>>51561026

You'll be fine, AV8 amirite?

>Cleaning the flash off a Skaven ball
>spike actually pierces finger

Damn these things are sharp.

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>>51560851
>>51560868
>tfw the logo got approved within 3 minutes after submission so i can actually use it.

Now lets have some sexy fun with the vamps
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=935321

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>>51561160

Hey Ukrim, are you around?

>>51520573
You can always color code the bases

>>51561174

>Vamps
>Shadows
Disgusting.

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>>51561174
Sexy sluts beat the vamps 3-0, gaining 2 levelups on the girls in the process.

can anyone post another link to lrb 6? the one in op won't open for me

>>51564857
nvm got it

Rolled 4 (1d6)

Gfi into the endzone

Looking at getting into blood bowl, store is starting a league soon.

Will one box of the dwarf box cover me? or do I need two for some reason?

>>51568063

Actually yes, one Dwarf box is a pretty perfect starting roster. All your positionals are 0-2 and the box gives you 2 of all of them. It doesn't include the Death Roller, which virtually no one ever takes, so you've got all the models you'll ever need, barring Star Players.

>>51568167
Awesome, Thanks

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>my orcs don't arrive until monday

>>51568063
Dorfs are easily the best box out right now, both in terms of variety and options on the sprue.

>>51519599
So in Blood Bowl 2016 can you buy a Star Player as a permanent addition to your team? The Commissioner of our league says that because you can buy a thrower as an inducement that you can buy a star player as a regular player.

He says this because the core rule book says "you can hire a star player for your team" in the rule book that comes with the board game.

The Death Zone rule book says that Star Players are purchased as Inducements and that an inducement can never become a permanent part of your team. He says that these sources do not contradict each other and thus star players and mercenaries may be hired during the fire/hire phase, rendering taking them as inducements useless.

Who is correct?

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Here's the specific rules.

>>51571002
your commissioner is retarded

>>51571279
Could I get an explanation that I could show him without being offensive?

>>51571323
teams have the option to buy players permanently in their entries, the game never gives you the option to buy starpayers permanently anywhere in the rulebook, nor does the game tell you how much they would cost , the only time the game gives you the option to buy them is in inducements phase.which means you can only buy them there. A couple bonus reasons are that when you buy players in inducements phase they have a different cost from when you buy them permanently,but stars don't have the second cost nor some clause saying they cost the same;the lore for star players clearly states they roam around being hired for one game at a time only because they make much more money that way(i think morg n thorg said this explicitly)(that is if the new lore is unchanged, i have no idea);anoter reason,which maybe the commissioner knew but ignored is that they were never permanently hireable and the changes the new edition made were very few and they definitely wouldn't change it in such a subtle ambiguous way(also the NAF posted the official rules changes for the new edition and obviously this one wasn't among them).The only point he makes is that star players can be hired, but hiring in BB is also used for the temporary hiring you do at the beginning of the match, so there is nothing stating they can be permanently hired in a direct and clear manner.

>>51571550
i now realize that post was way too long for such a retarded issue, but whatever

>>51571550
The Commissioner does not recognize the NAF as a reputable rules source, and has not played previous editions of Blood Bowl.

He also doesn't agree that there is anything even slightly ambiguous about what appears in the basic rules, and says that the passage "you are allowed to purchase Star Players for your team" means that they are to be purchased as per regular players and may be retained forever.

>>51571600
In his defense he did want to have the whole league played using only the basic rule book without any "expansions" and I pushed to be allowed to use teams beside Orcs and Humans and to be able to get money and SPP after a game even though he didn't want to include it because that's "rules overload".

>>51571632
And I had to fight to get Coaching Assistants allowed (I was initially barred from purchasing any during team creation) because the Brilliant coaching result in the Basic Rulebook doesn't include anything about them.

>>51571600
if this is a troll attempt you are succeding, if he is too retarded to accept truth drop the league or play with the fucking star players i don't care.

>>51571679
No this is my life. Same dude refuses to recognize 40k errata because it appeared on Facebook and who spent 45 minutes arguing about what exactly "continuing the illustration" meant in the Settlers of Catan rule book.

>>51571632
If you are playing the league using only basic rules, make sure that there are no leveling, injuries, gaining money from winning matches or inducements.

>>51571756
No, only certain rules from death zone apply, but the rest of the league is not privy to the list.

>>51571767
Then create your team same race as his team and buy nothing but linemen. Everytime he buys Star player you hire the same player to screw him over.

>>51571801
But I can't hire the same star Player because he already would have it permenantly hired. Plus we're already 1 game into the Season and he's Humans and I'm orcs. I played him first though and got him to concede on turn 2 of the second half by injuring half his team.

So just desserts I guess.

>>51571632
>he didn't want to include it because that's "rules overload"
Holy fuck is that guy's previous tabletop game experience consist entirely of Settlers of Catan and Monopoly?

Got my first win today!

>>51571838
Congrats pal!

>>51571833
just out of curiosity because this guy is making me mad, how many players dd he have on the LoS when he was in defence?(no need to remember the exact number if you can't, just an array would do)

>>51571835
He DMs a couple campaigns (I haven't played yet), has played my GURPS 40k homebrew, regularly plays 40k, and has a 40+ board game collection (none of which are "normie" games)

>>51571859
He had 5 guys on the pitch, don't worry I got his money and MVP pick, don't worry.

>>51571600
since i feel like you are not trolling i cna only point out the fact that even if he disn't play previous editions people still didn't buy permanent stars,that the team creation section doesn't mention stars and of course stars aren't intended to be permanent. Over then this, lore explicitly saying they ar hired for a game only, your only chance is looking through the rulebook to find something which confirm stars aren't permanent, there must be somethign somewhere or you can ask GW somewhere i have no idea where.
>>51571833
he is referring to the part in the text you posted which says if two teams hire a player he works for neither.(which reminds me the rules say both teams because of course they are intended only for inducements and not for long temr buying)

>>51571002
>core rule book
the core rule book isn't for league play it only explains the rules enough that you can play a one off game with your friends. Only Death zone is for league play.

>>51571988
He claims that permanently buying a star player makes those rules not matter. This is because it's "obvious from the text" and I'm just "homebrewing".

I also had to fight for a schedule where every team gets a chance to play every other team (5 teams so a 4 game season). He wanted a 2 game season and then the cup game.

>>51571920
Look Death Zone season 1 page 18
The following represents the sacred and official word of Nuffle for running a Blood Bowl league.

Core rules were never intended to be used for a league. And if you are only following core rules then you cannot have a league.

>>51572077
oh well, i would just say roll with it, stars are fun, make sure to pick his same team and make an all lino team with all the good stars taken as sooon as possible(wasn't there a broken star at the beginning, was it nerfed? I think it could be an halfling or something having to do with halfs, but i am not sure)

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So did any of you bought the dwarf team?

Also post your last player

>>51519599
Complete shitter here are the GW team in a box good? I way eyeing up the dorf one

>>51572267
the dwarf team is the full team without Death Roller. So yes it is good.
All the box teams are only coming with 2 of each positional that is not the big guy(except orcs that don't come with goblins).

>>51572267
That one is the best one of the all.
The other teams don't have the number you want of certain players (for example the Skaven don't have enough Gutter Runner), but the Dwarf can only take two of each positionals, that are included in the box, so it's perfect
The only thing you lack is the DeathRoller, and that's not a unit most team take, and it's certainly never taken when beginning to play

>>51572267
at least browse the thread before asking( we need a new sticky).

Jet Set Radio vs Hangman's Hill Howlers

https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=935503

>>51571700
Why is this person in any position of responsibility?

>>51572823
Jet Set Radio vs Hangman's Hill Howlers

ends 1-0 for the necros

>>51571700
>"continuing the illustration"
what does it mean?

>>51571838
Keep it up.

Late announcement
https://fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=935567

>>51574694
And the Brets hard core counter the Raestrans coming out on top 1-0

>>51572200
nice mini-mini

>>51573274
He used it to argue that you can't place fields next to fields.

>>51573166
Because he bought the boxed game. He asked everybody if they wanted to play blood bowl and we made our teams from the 5000+ lego minifig crate we have for gaming.

>>51578104
ah he is that kid.

>>51571002
So in Blood Bowl 2016 can you buy a Star Player as a permanent addition to your team? The Commissioner of our league says that because you can buy a thrower as an inducement that you can buy a star player as a regular player.

He says this because the core rule book says "you can hire a star player for your team" in the rule book that comes with the board game.

The Death Zone rule book says that Star Players are purchased as Inducements and that an inducement can never become a permanent part of your team. He says that these sources do not contradict each other and thus star players and mercenaries may be hired during the fire/hire phase, rendering taking them as inducements useless.

Who is correct?

>>51578616
whoops, was trying to copy and paste to email the question to GW because apparently /bbg/ isn't a reputable source either.

https://www.fumbbl.com/p/group?op=view&group=9828

>>51578642
Ooopss... sorry copied the wrong link

Here:

https://www.fumbbl.com/ffblive.jnlp?spectate=935707

>>51578640
tell him that everyone that plays blood bowl plays it with star player not being able to become permanent addition to the team. And then tell him that he is a douche.

>>51578864
Yeah but he claims that everybody still plays the old rules which are not compatible with blood bowl 2016. I had to beg to have the Teams of Legend PDF allowed so that the rest of the league could play what they wanted.

The NAF's list of rule changes between the editions is not reputable and basically "made up" so he disallows anything that hasn't been printed in the last year.

Everyone who is disagreeing with him apparently only plays the last version and in Blood Bowl 2016 Star Players are permanent and the basic rule book is all that is necessary to run every portion of Blood Bowl because the rest are just optional expansions that aren't necessary for league play and levelling up.

>>51578943
No, he is just a retard.

what is this about another legendary edition?

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>>51578943
>necessary for league play
core rules has no rules about league play.
Ask him that he should show you one sentence in the core rules about league play. Then show him page 18 on the Death Zone Season 1 Rule Book.

>tfw Im gunna get a trophy

Ram Ph0enyx rivalry now stands at

2-1-2

>>51579816
>tfw you were beat by a cuck playing underworld as humans

>>51579945
>tfw crab will never be banned for having alts cause mauled is a cuck

>>51579945
>tfw someone ITT was beten by goblins with chorfs

>>51580004
>tfw people ITT have ever lost

>>51580004
Someone ITT lost to a goblin team that had only 1 troll

>>51580049
>tfw someone ITT lost to all linemen Pact

>>51579879
OTP

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>>51578640
Here's a reputable source:
>Teams created for a league cannot include Star Players; during league play they do not join teams on a permanent basis, preferring to rake in inordinate amounts of cash by acting as free agents. You'll still be able to hire them on a game-by-game basis through inducements.

Right there in the fucking deathzone book.

>>51581347
Thanks, there's no denying that.