Savage Worlds Weird War II

>>51509274
ITT: we tell OP why he's an idiot for being unable to learn a system that's in the same category of difficulty as 5e.

But aside from that, HERO system, GURPS, M&M, and Strike!
Hah! Beat you to it Strike-anon.

>>51509331
listen mate, i've played 3.5, 5e, 4e, pathfinder, 2e, SWN, fucking DCC. Maybe it's because we were using the books that converted the game to not use the dumb card mechanic, but between three different fucking books there was barely a clear answer on how to do half the basic shit we wouldn't have a problem doing in any other system.

>>51509274
alright, I've decided we're going to do GURPS because fuck it. Any recommendations for source books with supernatural shit and 1930's/40's shit? Also, is there somewhere to download the gurps core rules for free because fuck paying for the tabletop nerds version of Linux.

>>51509274
>we were literally reading three seperate source books trying to find information on what base AC is supposed to be, how skills work and how the fuck you determine initiative.

So just use the version from the core rules if you find this so difficult? It doesn't take a lot of searching to discover Parry = half your Fighting die +2 or that you determine init by dealing cards every round.

>>51510551
see thats the thing, we were using the versions of the rules that removed the card mechanic

>>51510616
Why were you using THREE VERSIONS? Besides, the core book has a big flashy blurb in the initiative section that says how to use a non-card system, you fucking braindead retard.

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>>51509274
Dust Adventures

>>51509274

>we were literally reading three seperate source books trying to find information on what base AC is supposed to be

Half your Vigor die + 2.

> how skills work

You roll the skill die plus a d6, take whichever is higher.

>how the fuck you determine initiative

Just have everyone roll Notice. Highest goes first. Alternative use playing cards if you want it to be more random.

Savage Worlds has some nuances which are a pain in the ass to figure out but this is basic shit anyone can find. Are your players idiots?

You could try Achtung Cthulhu! It runs on the Fate system.

>>51512182
I think OP and his players might be idiots for using 3 different rulebooks with conflicting statements written into them. You really just need the explorers edition book and the companion book for the setting.

>>51516616

I have a feeling they were using third party companions, which are always of varying quality.

The CRB very clearly explains everything his group couldn't understand. I don't know how dumb you have to be to think drawing on three different sources for basic rules will give you the results you want.

Wow, OP. You are an absolute idiot. Savage Worlds is very simple.

Also, want a cardless initiative system?
Roll d20, 20 is a Joker

>>51510101
>"Gais, Savage Worlds is too haaaard."
>"I'll try GURPS instead."
My only solace is knowing that you'll waste even more time without getting anywhere.