Who'd have won in a fight, Boromir or Aragon?

Aragorn

Broromir because Aragorn isn't wearing pants.

Additional information: there's a hobo nicknamed Aragorn living in my yard.

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>>51494844
NUMENOR STRONK

Legolas

>>51494889
You angered the PETA. prepare to die.

>>51494844
Aragon. Also, is it just me or does Sean Bean die in 99% of the films/television he stars in.

>>51494909
It basically became a meme, but he's okay with it.

>>51494844

I'd give it to Aragorn based on more experience, IIRC he's in his 70s in LotR

>>51494844
Aragorn.

He canonically has low-level superpowers, i.e. much higher strength, speed, resistance and stamina than your average trained soldier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEhtsgu6bJg

>>51494996
80s IIRC

>>51495024
Why are you trying to make me sad

>>51495024

Which one is the one with him getting buried alive?

>>51495115
Don't Say a Word (2001)

>>51494996
>>51495030
Thought he was 44.

>>51495007
This is meaningless.

It's stated outright in the Fellowship that Boromir was the mightiest of all the nine companions. Aragorn, is credited as the tallest, being of royal Numenórian stock; though Boromir (and by extension, Faramir, their father, etc.) also came from Numenórian blood.

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>>51495330
>mightiest of all nine
>Gandalf is part of the nine

Now listen here

>>51495378
boromir has the most might points
by RAW he is the mightiest

the downside is he has no fate points

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>>51494863
It's true though. Aragorn have no pants.

>>51494844
Boromir without doubt. Boromir is a warrior, trained in gorilla warfare 'n shit. Aragorn is just a ranger.

>>51495474
You'd think the Ranger would know more about gorillas.

>>51495474
What exactly do you think the rangers even do?

>>51495460
Why did they make same such an ugly monster in this?

>>51495141
Nope. He mentions his age in the coronation ceremony as being 87. Being of the High Men of Númenor he could live to be 250.

>>51495491
knowing about gorillas is less important than knowing how gorillas wage war

>>51495474
"Ranger" in LOTR means "guy who is literally killing orcs all the time nonstop"

>>51495503
Might as well ask why the made Sam a deformed simpleton.

>>51494844
Sauron wins by them fighting.

>>51495378
Gandalf, though not truly a mortal, was still bound by his physical form. That of an elderly man and though he would not die of old age, he still kept all the frailties associated with it. He was also bound by instruction from Manwe that he should not reveal his true nature among mortals. Fighting Dúrin's Bane was a different matter because that was a being of the same make as he, and if it should join with Sauron then the Free Peoples would have almost no hope of ever seeing Sauron defeated.

Magic is repeatedly shit on by martial prowess in Tolkien's legendarium. Sauron and Isildur, The Witch-King and Earnur, and, of course, Morgoth and Fingolfin.

>>51495534
Sam was better in Jacksons movies

Here he is just a bafoon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpjyNIoJ0V4

>>51495808
>That of an elderly man and though he would not die of old age, he still kept all the frailties associated with it.

No.

Just so much no.

He might have been a cantankerous bastard at time like an old man but he gave very little impression that he was frail like an old man. He was also in no danger of dying of old age given that he had looked sixty something for the last two thousand years.

>>51494844
Ned Stark.

>>51496108
Fair enough, I misspoke. He was by no means frail, but he wouldn't be able to best Boromir, who was physically younger and more skilled at arms.

I did say that he wouldn't die of old age though.

>>51495024
>He survived 2016

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>>51495521
>>51495474
>gorilla warfare

>>51495895
Goddamn that was painful.

>>51496236
Audibly kek'd thank you anon

>>51496336
You must be new here

>>51495895
For all those old films had good stuff in them they also had heaps of inexcusable dog shit like that.

Might be heresy to say it in these here woods but I prefer the Jackson films.

>>51494844
It depends on when in the story this fight takes place.
For example in the later parts of the series Aragorn gains the legendary blade Andúril while all Boromir gains is death.

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>>51494844
>Aragon

I don't bloody think Boromir could stand a chance.

Aragorn doubtless. He had a superior bloodline and Tolkien was quite a fascist.

>>51496784
Moorcock pls leave

>>51494844
Aragorn, he was another level of badass as humans go. At least twice Boromir's age, too.

>>51495808
Gandalf also probably wasn't allowed to fight the balrog "officially", but since it all happened either deep underground or high above the clouds they swept it under the rug since nobody's noticed.

Wait. Hold up. Fuck, I just understood something obvious. Letting Gandalf wear Narya was just a way of getting around the fucking ban. He couldn't use the powers he had in Valinor so Cirdan gave him a ring whose power was tied to Middle-earth. I just thought it was additional aid but they were using a loophole.

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>>51497238
Wasn't he limited to like a quarter of what he could do, and no direct offense?

>>51494844
>Aragon
A lone swordsman versus an entire region of Spain? Boromir gets ruined

>>51497710
That sounds awfully specific.

>>51497846
>awfully specific
I'll take "What is Tolkeins usual writing style?" for 200 Alex

>>51497816
I like you!

>>51497150

You can see better evidence of that too, in Gandalf's actions in Moria. It exhausts him to have a simple door locking and counterspell cut and parry when they're fleeing from the chamber of Mazarbul. But after the fall down the chasm, suddenly it's an 8 day magic battle which culminates in the destruction of the side of a mountain.

I don't think it's quite a question of "officially" vs unofficially, but that Maiar are probably unable to go all-out when there are pesky mortal witnesses. Remember, the Balrog is bound by no such restrictions but does seem to be able to step up his game when Gandalf goes all out.

>>51494844

Probably Aragorn, but Boromir's damn tough, I could concede the possibility of him winning, and I'd bet on him in a physical fight against any of the other Fellowship members.

>>51497816
>>51496651
I don't know... He did kill A LOT of Uruks.

>>51494844
Eh...need more details. Boromir was way strong, but Aragorn was cunning and shit

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>>51494844
Nacho Libre.

How come Gimli's name hasn't come up yet? Does nobody think he's at about the same level when it comes to 1 on 1 melee rankings?

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>>51501214
Unfortunately, he falls a little short.

>>51494900
It's too late. PETA has angered the gazebo. Let's see PETA beat the gazebo in combat

>>51494900
You ever notice how PETA never goes after biker gangs even though they all wear shittons of leather?
It's cause despite being some of the literal dumbest people on earth, they're still not THAT dumb. Or the ones that are "Go missing"

>>51495534
In that pic sam (Or the hobbit I'm assuming to be sam) looks high as a fucking kite

>>51501214

Gimli's good, but he's not in the same league as Boromir.

Consider: Boromir, alone, unaided, killed about 20 orcs before they decided to stand off and shoot him full of arrows as a way to deal with him. Gimli takes down 42 in a battle where he's protected by comrades and is never venturing alone. He also expresses some concern about fighting the Dunlendeing warriors at the gate of the Hornburg.

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Aragorn, probably
But Boromir will always have a special place in my heart.

>>51502202
how many orcs could he have killed if they were all melee?

>>51502082
>Boromir, alone, unaided, killed about 20 orcs before they decided to stand off and shoot him full of arrows as a way to deal with him.
while protecting what essentially amounts to two children

>>51502202
So do arrows for him

>>51502202
In my youth I was an elf loving faggot and thought legolas was the coolest. Now I'm older and a bit wiser, and know that Sam is the best. Boromir is high on the list of characters though. It's tough making an interesting badass with sufficient character flaws to be interesting.

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>>51494844
>Who'd have won in a fight, Boromir or Aragon?

best boromir would hand aragorn his ass

he's more magua than roland

Aragorn would beat Boromir but it would be close. Boromir beats him in raw strength but Aragorn is more patient, older and wiser in battle. Basically Anakin vs Obi-Wan.

>>51503146
I'm not sure how I feel about comparing Boromir to Anakin, even if I get your point

>>51502726
All of them anon. All of them.

>>51494844
Aragorn was a competent fighter, Boromir was literally the best man in Gondor, the last great human country. His brother may have been of purer and grander heart, but of might, none could stand to Boromir.

>>51503212
that's a lot of uruks

>>51494844
Well if you take their stats as they were in the fellowship, Boromir has 6 might and 6 armour because of his shield but has no fate. While Aragorn has armour 5, 3 might + 1 for free every turn and 3 fate. So Boromir would spend his might in the first 2-3 turns to land wounds on Aragorn. Aragorn will probably survive by spending all his fate points. As soon as Boromir runs out of fate he looses, since Aragorn still gets his free might every turn.

In their strongest configurations, Aragorn after the Battle on the Pellenor fields and Boromir at the retaking of Osgiliath, Aragorn wins because of anduril.

>>51503146
But Obi-Wan is a superior jedi to Anakin.

>>51495460
Whatever the fuck Merry/Pippin is doing behind that rock, Pippin/Merry looks pretty pretty focused on it.

>>51494844
Boromir is a fucking rape machine.
He is the physical incarnation of old Numenoreans as super-humans, whilst Aragorn is the incarnation of Numenoreans as wise leaders.

He travelled halfway to Rivendell from Gondor by himself on foot after his horse died.
He fought off roughly 100 orcs defending Merry and Pippin, though he did die.
He's explicitly described as the mightiest of the Fellowship.

>>51504126
He is supposed to be the best fighter. The author uses his death as another way to drive home his narrative that there is more to being a defender of what is good than just being a strong fighter.

>>51494844
Sauron

>>51504126
And yet he'd still loose. Only because he's played by Sean Bean and Sean Bean ALWAYS FUCKING DIE

>>51504126
Aragorn as stated has literally decades of experience on him though and could probably play him like a fiddle

it isn't necessarily the strongest who wins a fight

>>51504175
But that's wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A26IdI5KNb8

>>51497989
you wouldnt need a question there, you're asking a topic. It would be " I'll take Tolkien for 200 Alex" with an answer of "What is Tolkien's usual writing style?"

>>51503591
>goes game rule sperg
>doesnt even get it right

Osgiliath boromir would ruin Aragorn due to his Fight 7, auto-winning any ties. Every fight, thats a straight up 50% chance of just flipping off aragorn and his free might.

>>51502726
I don't know anon, lets find out

http://boromir.toolness.org/

>>51494942
I was hoping he'd have a death scene in his role as the Civ 6 narrator.

>>51495503
>>51495534
He looked and acted like Han Solo.

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>>51504277
32

>>51504156
Exactly.

>>51504210
Only with plot armour
Boromir was the better fighter, sorry m8. It's the point of his character's corruption and Aragorn's rejection of the ring.

>>51504156
Also capable of deflecting arrows?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDN1sA3Fpqg

>>51504233
If you're going to be snarky and pedantic at least get it right. The answer would be more like "This is Tolkien's writing style"

>>51496236
The irony is not lost on me.

>>51501680
Fuck you, Carlooooooooos!

>>51497989
Tolkien was rarely specific about mystic stuff, just with bloodlines, timelines, geography and such.

>>51497816

I dunno, we might not actually fight him. He's a cool dude. He can come by and knock out a few beers whenever he wants.

>>51498754
That the Maiar were unable to go all out, and not just unwilling due to theirs and Manwe's promises, seems to fit with their colour coding and ranks: your rank decides how much power you're able to use, due to the part you're meant to play and how much wisdom and discretion you're believed to possess.

>>51504463
>Boromir was the better fighter, sorry m8. It's the point of his character's corruption and Aragorn's rejection of the ring.
What? No, it isn't, the point is that the Ring can corrupt almost anyone, and almost nobody can be trusted with it, not to make melee strength comparisons.

>>51504277
>Weary from battle, Boromir staggers for a moment...
>The orc drives his mace and chain into Boromir's eyes for 11 damage!
>Boromir has been killed!
Ow shit, fuck, no. That's not how it's supposed to go down.

>>51506006
Some Boromirs live a safe life

>>51505227
Can this woman not do any happy songs?

Closest I've seen her get is the Bear and the Maiden Fair.

>>51505311
the answer's in Jeopardy have to be phrased as questions, idiot.

>>51504246
The most recent ruleset (hobbit) allows you to increase fight by expending might.

>>51494844
Who cares

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>>51504277
>30
>You will never win glory and redemption in desperate battle and purposeful death

>>51494844
Angron

>>51494844
Assuming you mean Aragorn and not the Spanish province, yeah, Aragorn would totally win. Boromir was killed by some random orcs. Aragorn survived many more fights with many more orcs, including the same fight Boromir died in, also including riding out of a fortified position at Helm's Deep to wade into thousands of orcs, and also including a literal suicide mission at the Black Gate that he wasn't planning to survive. The only thing that could kill Aragorn was Aragorn himself - he literally willed himself dead when he decided he was getting too old and it was time for his son to take over.

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>>51509939
You'd think it desirable, but thanks to a chronic lack of Uruks twisted by dark the art of fallen Maia one gets the feeling that you'd end up feeling more like the Haradrim that held at the black gate after the orcs routed.

>>51509877
I do.

>>51504277
Only 20 Orcs, how embarrassing.

>>51510133
On that note, Boromir vs. the Spanish province of Aragon, where his win condition is the successful formation of a Gondorian principality. Your thoughts?

>>51499213
The iconic aragonese troop were javelin throwers. if arrows can kill boromir javelins would rape his ass.

>>51495024
Sean Bean and Michelle Rodriguez need to be in an action film together as the "act like they hate each other" couple of secondary characters, spending most of their time escaping increasingly improbable demises in increasingly improbable manners.

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>>51504277
33

>>51505889

But in this case the point is that both were tempted, and it was Boromir, the stronger of the two, who fell for it. This is exactly to make the point you've just made; strength doesn't prevent corruption, and a more powerful hero isn't necessarily more suitable to be ringbearer.

Despite being the greatest hero of the fellowship, Boromir was the weak link that led to it breaking. This is a constant theme through Tolkien's books; that being powerful doesn't actually help you very much in the end. Thorin's madness due to greed, Theoden being trapped by Saruman and Grima's magic, Saruman falling to evil, Denethor going insane are all other examples.

Best version of the Lament of Boromir:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT5-ZLJTi0I

>>51504175
>Sean Bean always dies
Well, anon, I know you can shitpost, but can yer stand?

>>51510795
Which is really why Sam was so resistant to the ring. Everyone else has all these grand goals and hopes. Sam just wants to impregnate Rosy over and over. Power can't help with that.

>>51497816
It's Aragon's sole mission to destroy Saruhan and climb the throne of the kingdom of Gondar.

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>>51511082
To be fair, it's a big throne

>>51498754
>Destruction of the side of a mountain

I need to read those books one day. Is the Silmarillion as good as I heard?

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>>51503014
>Sam

Patrician taste anon.

>>51504175
>Sean Benn always dies

Christopher Lee says hi.

>>51494844
The fangirls who mainline yaoi

>>51510912
>Friend call me Sam because I'm his best buddy
>I'm also the horniest of the lot

That cheeky bastard.

>>51510795
While that would have been thematic, there's just no evidence that Boromir was more powerful in any sense than Aragorn. Just compare their performance in battle: Aragorn survives the fight that kills Boromir, and he goes on to survive a bunch of other fights that would probably have killed Boromir. Boromir's experience mostly comes from commanding large units of Gondorian soldiers, something quite unrelated to one's ability to fight personally, while Aragorn and his kin fought the same kinds of threats in the North without any of Gondor's waves of expendable troops, which explains why Aragorn can actually fight rather than just supervise fighting.

tl;dr: Boromir's a big guy whose habit of leading from the rear caught up with him.

>>51495024

>Find out that Sean Bean lived in one movie (Troy)
>He was Odyseus

kek.

>>51511721
Also the Sharpe series because he's the MC.

>>51510912
It was probably one of the funnier moments in the trilogy when it whispers temptations. I can't remember exactly because it's been a few years since I read the books but it boiled down to

>I can make you Kin of the Shire
Why would I want that? I like being a gardener.
>I can make the whole Shire a garden of beauty unsurpassed in this world, greater even than the Elder Days!
Shire is pretty how it is thank you.

And then the Ring was kind of stumped.

Sam had just the right mix of loyalty, determination and no ambition.

>>51511838
And National Treasure. He just got arrested.

>>51494844
Aragorn. How was this a question?

>>51503578
That'll be 5 bucks baby

>>51504277
>tripped and run through the midsection after slaying only 14 orcs
Painful to witness.

>>51495330
It is also stated by Gandalf to Pippin that while Faramir and Denethor numenorean ancestry is showing strongly, it does not in Boromir. Even if he is far from inept, and there were mighty men, whatever their ancestry was, since First Age, by expressing as "pure" as possible as that time numenorean blood, my money is on Aragorn winning something like four times out of five.

>>51511498
Not him, but as it has been stated a half a dozen times already, he is explicitly said to be the greatest warrior in the fellowship, and the greatest warrior among men in general. There is nothing to argue.

>>51511498
The fight consisted of the orcs getting the drop on him, again due to his falling for the ring. Aragorn is crafty and is usually defending with a bunch of dudes, or engaging with more favorable tactics (except the charge at the black gate).

>>51511981
It kind of has unfortunate implications that the moral of LoTR is to have no ambitions, shun progress, and accept the lot you're born into. It has all the infantilizing findness for the lower classes that comes from an officer who admired how willingly they died when he ordered them to.

>>51510268

As a person from Aragon, we're actually pretty happy in Spain right now, but if the country joined Gondor I wouldn't object.

>>51512154

Aragorn would probably win unless it's a straight out whiteroom battle, yeah, because he's wiser, more experienced, and more cunning. Boromir probably can bench press him AND Gimli at the same time, but you don't live to be eighty as a Ranger without being one crafty motherfucker.

>>51512285
Which is part of why he's a better fighter than Boromir. Aragorn has a better understanding of small-unit tactics because he's used them for longer than Boromir's been alive, while this may be Boromir's first time fighting as part of a unit he can count on both hands.

>>51512195
Of course they say that. It's traditional for rulers and members of ruling families to be played up as the greatest and the best at everything, even when it comes to skills that they'll never have to use. Aragorn's accession represents the triumph of practical experience over coddled nobility who can exaggerate their virtues and are protected from the consequences of their failures.

>>51513033
>Aragorn would probably win unless it's a straight out whiteroom battle
Aragorn is way better at swordplay than Boromir. Keep in mind that Aragorn is some part Elf, which makes him far more graceful and dexterous than a baseline human. Combine with his years and years of experience as a Ranger, he'd have Boromir without a problem.

Boromir might be stronger, I'd give that better than even odds. But strength, after a point, isn't really what swordplay is about. Speed and dexterity is way more important.

>>51512974
I didn't get that from it when I read it. Half the big players were arseholes, insane or fuckups.

The two that actually managed to complete the mission they set out on was two hobbits. Admittedly one was a minor aristocrat but position in the Shire amounts to sweet fuck all when not in the Shire.

>>51494909
I think one of the only actors with more on-screen deaths is John Hurt, but with the competition gone I'm sure Sean Bean will catch up.

>>51513160
The big players who fuck up (Saruman, Denethor, even Sauron to a degree) fuck up because they're trying for more than they have. Sam is a good little slave who does everything he's told without question and that's why things end well for him.

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>>51504277
And this after he killed 5 of them without taking damage at 12 hp...

>>51495522
Ranger means guy who kills orcs at a distance, from ambush positions, and retreating before greater numbers. Boromir was raised as a Knight, to fight one on one with heavily armoured orcs and Black numenorians and win 100% of the time. Boromir can easily beat Aragron in a straight up duel, but Aragorn is far better at killing Orcs.

>>51510887
Agreed. I love most of that guy's LoTR music.

>>51501214
Gimili is like the commander of the royal Guard of the Lonely Mountain, hes literally the Kings champion. Issue is that Dwarves don't train their guys to fight one on one they fight together as a unit. gimili would rarely have fought solo till now, normally acting as a commander of a large group of armoured dwarves.

>>51513446
Last Ringbearer pls go.

>>51513535
>Ranger means guy who kills orcs at a distance, from ambush positions, and retreating before greater numbers.
A ranger in LotR is not a Ranger in D&D, anon.
Aragorn was fighting and commanding in wars when Theoden was still a child.

>>51513535
The Dunedain regularly fought ghosts and undead.

In the books, it literally states that Aragon could strike the Ringwraiths because he was Dunedain.

He's been fighting Sauron's servants for decades.

>>51513604
Aragorn was participating in wars. He served Thengel as an adviser, and lead a raid on a pirate base of Umbar, with a small Gondorian squadron. By comparison, boromir was leading armies against larger orc forces.
Also, the rangers are the grey folk, who protect the lands of Eriador from the northern orc marauder bands that come out of gundabad. they do this by using hit and run tactics, inheriting the traditions of the Rangers of Numenor, whose tactics can be seen in the Rangers of Gondor. The Dunedain are dying out, they do not train to fight in single combat, against numbers. this is shown when Aragorn and the hobbits meet the rangers on the road. none of them are wearing heavy armour, they all carry bows, that is not the weaponry of a master of single combat.

>>51513654
Ghosts and undead, those famous close combatants who don't at all depend on the fear they inflict and their invulnerability to win a fight. Fighting a ghost who rarely can be touched is exactly the same as fighting a Champion fighter in single combat.
Im being sarcastic

>>51496651
Underrated post.

>>51508004
Do you know what lament means?

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How would Conan fair in Middle Earth?

>>51514155
Would probably rise in rank if serving with Rohan and eventually get a dukedom if he lives long enough.

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>>51495460

>>51514155
So why'd conan suddenly beef up at 50?

Also how'd he go down in levels in thief?

>>51498754
>and I'd bet on him in a physical fight against any of the other Fellowship members.

Legolas would DESTROY both Boromir AND Aragorn 2v1.

>>51515450
The guy robbed nobles and priests all the time.

Honestly, Conan in the books sounds more like a Fighter than Barbarian at times.

>>51515560
And Gandalf the White could literally wreck the rest of the Fellowship at the same time.

>>51515576
>Conan in the books sounds more like a Fighter than Barbarian at times.
If you apply D&Ds idea of what constitutes a fighter and a barbarian respectively to it, then maybe. It's a pretty meh definition, honestly.

>>51515609
Yeah but what about the Monthy Python and the Holy Grail's Black Knight?

>>51515660
And Benito Mussolini

>>51515711
And the Blue Meanie.

>>51513569

Source?

>>51515766
And cowboy Curtis

>>51511300
didn't die in attack of the clones

>>51516111

and Jambi the Genie

>>51515576
as the first of his kind, Conan doesn't fit our modern interpretation of a barbarian verbatim.
Was a barbarian mostly due to his heritage, that being from the harsh wild lands of the north. People didn't like to go there, and you had to be a complete savage to survive. However, Conan took the time to become not only wise, but also intelligent. Wasn't prone to mindless rampages, but passionately fought battles with people and creatures that would easily slay the average man.

>>51516397
Robocop

>>51516420
terminator

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>>51504277

>>51516454
Captain Kirk

>>51495503
Everyone is ugly monster in this

>>51516528
Legend.

>>51516531
Jackie Chan
wait FUCK

>>51495423
I loved that game. Its a shame that it kinda died

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Poor show my man.

Aragorn is all-around the greatest human of the age, definitely more skilled and more cunning, probably stronger too in some ways.

I think Boromir might have won if they were wrestling though. He really was a beast.

>>51504277

>Weary from battle, Boromir staggers for a moment...

>The orc runs his battleaxe through Boromir's eyes for 13 damage!

>Boromir has been killed!

>>51517105

Boromir is wasted on that sort of gangbang.

I mean, yes he got wasted, but also that it was a waste of his talent. You could give him a handful of men and send him against a huge mob of orcs and I think he would have done almost as well as Aragorn.

Ironically I think Faramir would have scored higher in that fight than Boromir, because Faramir was a ranger of Gondor, he would have fought on the run.

High score vs gangbang still goes to Húrin for killing Gothmog's entire trollguard.

>>51517874
>he would have fought on the run.
Not with two hobbits to protect.

I think its hilarious u kids talking about BOROMIR. u wouldnt say this stuff to him irl, hes JACKED. not only that but he wears the freshest armor, eats at the chillest taverns and hangs out with the hottest dudes. yall are pathetic lol

>>51517915

That's a good point. Still I think that Faramir (or Aragorn)'s style would have revolved more around mobility and not getting surrounded. Also they might have actually done something smart like rushed to a nearby defensible position or sent the hobbits up a tree or something.

Basically being hugely outnumbered by orcs in the middle of the woods is a situation that Faramir was trained for and has probably survived before, even if he overall wasn't as bad a dude as his older brother.

>>51517920
Heh.

>>51517920
Borormir was great, kills Orcs and doesn't afraid of anything

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>>51517920
He's not the one that got best waifu tho

>>51501035
Underrated post

>>51513111
Why do people use "Aragorn = part elf" as an explanation of why he should have super powers, instead of the fact he's related to the fucking human who flew to Heaven, spoke with God and then killed the most powerful monster to ever live?
AND THEN his descendants are given super powers for already being the most based human warriors around.

Aragorn is part Elf like 60+ generations ago you dolt. He probably has as much elf blood as Boromir does from living in the same kingdom as Dol Amroth.

Fuck, I'm so angry I researched it and apparently others have calculated it already:
http://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/91166/how-much-elven-ancestry-does-aragorn-have

>Finally, we can arrive at an answer, using the formula from earlier4:
>(9/16)/(2^63) = (9/16)/9223372036854775808 = 6.1x10^-20 = 0.000000000000000000061 = 0.0000000000000000061%

>That tiny number is the smallest quantity of Elven blood that can be in Aragorn's veins. Absent his complete family tree, rather than just the line of Kings and Queens, this is the best we can do. However, considering how tiny that number is, I highly doubt that there was enough Elven blood in all of Númenor to bring that up significantly higher; you might gain a couple of decimal places, but in the end it's still going to be effectively nil.

>To give you an idea of how miniscule of an amount this is, if I mixed a single drop of my blood, a volume of 0.0357 mL, into Lake Erie, with a water volume of 4.8x10^14 L, Lake Erie would have about as much "me" in it as Aragorn has "Elf" in him.

So don't fucking bring up Aragorn being part elf again.

>>51519394
That's how little he can have at the least, not how much he can have at the most.

It could also be way higher than that.

>lives with elves
>speaks Elvish
>basically has permission to nut in elf pussy
>can live to be 250 years old

>LOL HE JUST NORMAL HUMAN

>>51495423
Boromir trumps Aragorn everytime unless Aragorn has his murdersword.

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>>51519394

>>51511147
4 u

>>51503620
Anakin is the chosen one, literally born of the force and very gifted with force powers. Obi-Wan has more patience and experience in light saber dueling. Obi-Wan pretty much won because Anakin was throwing a fit and didn't realize the disadvantage he put himself in by not having the high ground. It's well known that having the high ground means everything in the Star Wars universe. I'm not sure this is the case in Middle Earth.

>>51519480
>can live to be 250 years old
That's not cus he's a fraction elf though, that's because of his numenorean heritage or something.

>>51498754
>I don't think it's quite a question of "officially" vs unofficially, but that Maiar are probably unable to go all-out when there are pesky mortal witnesses. Remember, the Balrog is bound by no such restrictions but does seem to be able to step up his game when Gandalf goes all out.
Balrog ARE Maiar. The wizards specifically are forbidden from doing much more than guiding and advising the mortal races.

>>51521506
So you know what numenoreans are?

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>>51521652
Oh yeah.

Still, I'm not sure if the Numenoreans tendency to live long and be hella tall had much to do with elven interbreeding. It'd have had to be a large-scale thing for it to affect them in general, and we only know of a few famous couplings.

>>51521652
Edain blessed by the Vallar with vigor and longevity for their service in the war of the jewels, and to a lesser extent the war of wrath. Their royal family was deceded from a half elf that elected to be mortal, but had no intermingling with elvendom beyond that.

>>51521628
The Bane of Durin stepped way out of line like the bitch ass traitor that he was. That's why Gandalf got to slap his shit.

>>51521628

>Balrog ARE Maiar

Yes, I realize.

>The wizards specifically are forbidden from doing much more than guiding and advising the mortal races.

You don't read too good, do you?

If the power restriction was solely due to Gandalf being an Istari and under some kind of ban from Manwe, then Gandalf's ability to "step up" his power when out of sight makes perfect sense. But the battle is still pretty even, he doesn't blow away Durin's Bane, and he "dies" and has to be sent back as a result of his exertion.

Clearly, the Balrog is also able to power up when outside of the Fellowship's view, isntead of being a vague hulking menacing figure who has to fight with a flaming sword, and not that effectively. But the Balrog is under no such restrictions, he's a rebel against Manwe and the rest of the order in Valinor. So the ability to power up like that is probably intrinsic, and not something that is a result of Gandalf's restraint.

>>51514938
Beat me to it

>>51515576

There is absolutely no fucking reason the barbarian class isn't called berserker.

>>51504278
He does actually die in the intro.

>>51512974
Humility is the quenching oil in the forge of character.

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>>51496534
the old cartoon has some good elements though
the nazgul were much more terrifying, especially when frodo put on the ring.
To the point when i saw the first Lotr many years later, i had a freaky deja vu when the nazgul crouch on the tree root

>>51494844
Aragorn, no contest. Because Boromir was basically irrelevant to the plot.

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>>51526530
For a small child that shit was the stuff of nightmares. But then this was back in the day when PG actually meant something.

>>51528399
So never?

>>51528399
I actually remember that, it scared me to death when I was a kid.

>>51528449
Meant more than it does now.

>>51528484
It never meant anything, it's a guideline for film makers not a moral code, I don't see how PG movies are any different now, than in the days of yore.

>>51495460
I still believe the people responsible for that animated abomination should be tried for crimes against humanity.

>>51501214
Dwarves are not battle-gods in Tolkeinverse, their size realistically hinders them. IIRC at helm's deep Gilmli was really just hacking at peoples' ankles and finishing off downed foes. I wouldn't say he's a contender for strongest member of the Fellowship.

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>>51494844
This literal murder hobo

>>51496784
>Tolkien
>Fascist
Hi tumblr

>>51529610
That's 2 against 1 though.
How about the murderhobo against Boromir AND Arargorn?

>>51530359
More like 1 against 6

Don't forget the war chiefs

>>51530413
In that case, it would be 1 against Mordor.

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>>51530462
>>51529610
>>51530413
Talion was the best mistake ever

>tfw immortal war chiefs

>>51530675
That game was so fucking dumb

>ending was literally the player saying they're going to make a biggerer, badderer Ring

>>51495330

Well uh, technically, nah. Boromir is described as the widest or strongest member when clearing a path through the snow on the mountain, but Aragorn has probably 50 years of travel and battle experience.

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>>51531648
>Hating dumb fun

>>51531648
The gameplay was terrible as well.

>>51510285
Also they looked (and stank) like a cross of feral jew and orc.

>>51504277
77 jesus

>>51504277
>Boromir tries to dodge the orc's attack, but stumbles...
>The orc drives his mace and chain into Boromir's spine for 18 damage!
>Boromir has been killed!
>After killing 24 orcs, Boromir died.

>>51508676
In Jeopardy, the host gives the answer and the contestants ask the questions, idiot.

>>51502870
Too soon

>>51519179
>>who's tha-....no... it couldn't be
>> 1 googling later

That is about 100X more pretty than the Eowyn in the movie and about 50X more pretty than I would ever expect for that character.

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>>51535971
Book Eowyn have always been pretty awesome, major character inspiration.
Movie Eowyn was a little disappointing.

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>>51495460
>>51514938

>>51536193

Agreed, I do not mean to bash, Miranda Otto was a great fit for how LoTR n Rohan was presented on screen... that ultimately meant not being the shiniest apple in the bushel.

>>51515915
probably one of the books

>>51521098
Unless you're Darth Maul

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>>51521098
>It's well known that having the high ground means everything in the Star Wars universe. I'm not sure this is the case in Middle Earth.
I'd say it probably still applies.

>>51537010
Obi-Wan had the high ground from a certain point of view.

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>>51496149
>He can beat Balrog but can't Boromir

>>51543460
He's not -allowed- to beat boromir.

>>51543574
Disallowed doesn't mean can't

>>51543708
don't make me call dad

>>51543723
do it
my dad could kick his ass anyways

>>51513685
>a pirate base of Umbar
Umbar was then and remained in the third age the largest imperial numenorean city built in middle earth, predating the kingdoms of Arnor and Gondor and long serving as the seat of the black Numenoreans in exile. You're not wrong that they had fleets of corsairs, but it's less "small pirate city" and more "Satanic Roman Constantinople".

>>51501750
>believing bikers are hardcore rather than merely fatasses with an advantage in numbers
t. biker.

>>51543574
To be clear, if at some point Gandalf had cause to fight Boromir, like Boromir falling to the ring, or trying to drag the fellowship to Denethor, he could do as much as he ever does to keep things from going to shit. He could cow Boromir with his mighty presence or hack at him with his fine elvish sword, and he can use any trick he wants. What he can't do is drop his restraint, flash away his mortal form, and angel-punt the plantir through Boromir, just like he can't just go cracking a hole in arda's crust to pitch the ring into, even though it's within his power.

>>51545460
But that's just it. With Gandalf's power restricted, Boromir would absolutely destroy him. Physically, Gandalf is just an old man (albeit one in really fine shape) with a magic sword.

>>51509939
I'd rather not die ever