Space Marine chapter creation thread

Rolled 5 (1d10)

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>>51491326
Counter - "There are Orks over here! Found a Chapter!" "But it'll take 50 ye-" "Do it!"

Pretty good first roll, now onto the next one: When Was The Chapter Founded? (d100)

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Rolled 70 (1d100)

>>51491348
Rolling!

>>51491392
39th Millenium

39th, not bad.

Who was the Chapter's Progenitor? (d100)

Rolled 14 (1d100)

>>51491413

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>>51491434
Ultramarines, what a suprise!

Gene-seed purity (d10)

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>>51491434
>>51491392
Could we swap these rolls? Would really make things more interesting.

>>51491595
We'll see in the end. And if everyone agrees then I say we could do it, but for now let's continue

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>51491465

>>51491683
Flawed - Chapter's gene-seed is flawed and sets them apart from their progenitor

Whelp, looks like we are a flawed bunch of Marines

Next roll: Chapter Demeanour (d10)

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>51491710

>>51491787
Uphold the Honour of the Emperor - Performing unheroic acts? *BLAM* No

Honour is our life, and our life is honour!

If they have one, what mutation do they have? (d10)

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>51491828
Fugg.

>>51491858
Oversensitive Occulobe - "I'm in the dark and I can see perfectly! How usefuAAAAH THE SUN'S COMING UP HOLY EMPEROR MY EYES"

Ok time for our flaw (d10)

>>51491828
Hold up, don't we have to roll on chances of mutation? Mutation is separate from flaws.

>>51491902
Ok, my bad.

Anyone still here?

Rolled 6 (1d10)

>>51491893

Okay, flaw rolling.

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>>51492575
Faith in Suspicion - The Chapter particularly hates a single Imperial institution, and refuses to work with them.

Oh, good one. But why do we hate that institution?

Next roll: Figure of Legend (d100)

Rolled 80 (1d100)

>>51492644

>>51491658
I agree with the other anon

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>>51492651
Company Captain (roll d10 to determine which company)

Rolled 4 (1d10)

>>51492700

>>51492720
Ok, so a company captain from the 4th Company was our Figure of Legend, but what did he do? (d100)

Rolled 46 (1d100)

>>51492735

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>>51492742
The individual was a stalwart enemy of the servants of Chaos, and slew a Daemon Prince.

Sounds badass to me

Chapter homeworld (d100)

Rolled 66 (1d100)

>>51492851

>>51492866
Medieval World

Terrain (d100)

Rolled 75 (1d100)

>>51492902

>>51492909
Wasteland

So our chapter homeworld is a feudal wasteland. I wonder how that came to be.

Next roll: Rule of homeworld (d10)

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>51492931

>>51492934
Distant rule - "You see that castle up there? It's inhabited by the mighty sky-warriors of Emp-rar. Sometimes they come and steal our children."

Ok, so we rule fro afar

Moving on: Chapter organisation (d10)

Rolled 2 (1d10)

>>51492945

>>51492945
Unique organization get! Deviance, ho! Let us shame the smurfs!

Rolled 3 (1d10)

>>51492964
...except I ROLL this time!

>>51492949
>>51492934
>>51492964
If we swap these two rolls it'd be divergent, but we're codex adherent otherwise

>>51492949
Codex-adherent

Combat doctrine (d10)

Rolled 8 (1d10)

>>51493282

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>>51493294
Siege

"Brother Gustavus! Bring out the Space trebuchet! We need to seige the Space Fortress!"

What form do the Chapters' beliefs take? (d100)

Rolled 27 (1d100)

>>51493339

>>51493367
Revere the Primarch - "Our Spiritual Liege is better than yours!"

At what strength is the Chapter? (d10)

Rolled 10 (1d10)

>>51493372

>>51493372
Makes sense if we're smurfs

>>51493646
Over Strength: Some Chapters maintain more than the prescribed ten companies, though it is rare for more than a handful more to be fielded and even then only temporarily. It may be that the Emperor’s Tarot has predicted terrible losses ahead, or that the Chapter simply regards its numbers as optimal and cares little for the dictates of the Codex Astartes

WE STRONK!!!

Who are your Chapter friendly with? (d100)

Rolled 11 (1d100)

>>51493672

>>51493707
Adeptus Arbites


Enemies (d100)

Rolled 13 (1d100)

>>51493745
Nice, space cops

>>51493876
Orks

That's the entire table, now let's fluff them out, give them a name, etc.

>>51493927

Well, recap them so we have a neat post from which to reference them. Without that, we'd have to scroll through the entire thread to figure out who they are.

>>51494103
Not OP, but here's a recap.

>Purpose:
Counter
>Founding:
39th Millenium
>Progenitor:
Ultramarines
>Purity:
Flawed
>Demeanor:
Uphold the Honor of the Emperor
>Flaw:
Faith in Suspicion
>Hero:
4th Company Captain
>Deed:
Enemy of Chaos, slew a demon Prince
>Home World:
Medieval World
>Terrain:
Wasteland
>Rule Type:
Distant Rule
>Organization:
Codex Adherent
>Doctrine:
Siege
>Number:
Over Strength
>Friend:
Adeptus Arbites
>Enemy:
Orks

Let me know if I cocked anything up.

>>51494163
So it's an Ultramarines successor that sees Uriel ventris as an example to follow?

>>51494163
Did we ever establish who these guys don't like, in particular? You know, for Faith in Suspicion?

>>51494163
Hmm. Okay, so the "Honor of the Emperor", "Distant Rule", "Medieval" and "Wasteland" parts are kind of giving me a "Crusaders in the Holy Land" vibe. A decent "direction" might be a shithole planet where the planet's youth who succeed in their pilgrimages to Catholic-flavored-Astartes-Mecca are accepted into their ranks? Dunno, just spitballing.

>>51494494
...though, thinkin' about it, we could just go full-on Muslim Marines. Why not? The Templars already have "Crusade flavor" locked down.

>>51494494
The crusaders vibe fits with being siege warriors. >>51493339

>>51494444
Not to my knowledge. Ecclesiarchy? Mechanicum? Inquisition? Who else could we have cause to beef with, lads?

>>51494549
. . . actually yeah. It's a niche I don't think has been filled by an Astartes chapter yet. Might be work it.

>>51494563
>Uphold the honor of the Emperor
>Faith in Suspicion
>Slew a Demon Prince
>Over Strength
Okay, who spiked our Geneseed with Black Templar?

>>51494550
>>51494563
Heh, so, what, these guys are gonna be reverse Crusaders? Striking out from the Space Holy Land to kill the infidel heretics in Space Europe?

What should we name them?

>Space Saracens
>Don't like a specific institution
So we don't like the Ecclesiarchy, they're not teaching the Proper Word of the Emperor handed down by the Prophet Guilliman

>>51494835
Should they have some chaplain that they rally around, who is the foundation of their teachings, solidifying the chapter morally?

>>51494835
Oh my god A++

>>51494671
Yeah man! Or maybe we're fortification-based because we've fortified all our planets against the orks we were send to fend off, and the crusades in this instance are actually just WAAAAGHs.

>>51494801
Star Dervishes? Warriors of the Faith?

>>51494550
>Ecclesiarchy

Always makes for fun times. If you're going full Allahu Akbar, then they also worship the God-Emperor as divine; the Ecclesiarchy is just the WRONG way of worshiping him.

>>51494864
Maybe it's not a chaplain, but the teachings of their heroic captain, because muslims don't necessarily into an ordained priesthood? Mohammad was a prophet and general both remember.

>>51494864
No, our 4th company captain who is a glorious martyr in the name of the Prophet as demonstrated by his deeds
>inb4 he blew himself up to stop the Daemon prince

>>51494871
>The Primarchs, and other Imperial saints, haven't actually been touched by the Emperor's light -- the likes of Guilliman are mere prophets.

>>51494801
>>51494870

Swords of Ishmael? (Fun with biblical genealogy!)

>>51494895
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQoJvI8XUa0

Ok, so I like Star Dervishes,

We should also call either our Captains or our Chaplains "Clerics" and have a council of them choose our chapter master

>>51494944
Any reason we couldn't have chaplains and captains be merged as an institution?

>>51495036
We're codex-compliant I thought

>>51495049
The letter, but not the spirit of it? Maybe our Clerics could be the really holders of power and authority in the chapter and the captains are more like administrative functionaries.

>>51495101

Having the warleader and the spiritual leader be separate makes sense. The council of clerics can simply be a powerful voice in chapter governance.

>>51495101
The issue is that our 4th captain is a hero of the chapter.

It would be nice and fluffy to do away with the codex-compliant roll and combine Chaplains and Captains, but idk how other anons feel about it

>>51495137
Wouldn't it be better just to change the hero?

>>51495131
Maybe the clerics evaluate who's worthy to be a captain, and the chapter master is elected by a consultation of all marines in the chapter?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shura

>>51495176
I thought we already had that the chapter master was elected by the Clerical Council, because if so I would say the true power of the chapter should by the Master of Sanctity and the Chapter master would be a figurehead leader

>>51495202
Could work either way, like the battle brothers appoint their own clerics from the wisest and most holy among them (with the approval of the other clerics, of course).

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>>51495202
Maybe the Chapter Master is essentially the "head general", but the Master of Sancticity holds the most clout on the Chapter Council?
>>51494935
I like this one. Maybe the Chapter insignia could be the crossed swords of the Muslim Brotherhood, with a skull or a star or something?

>>51495320
Star makes the most sense if we're going with Star Dervishes. Also surprisingly underutilised in a game about space marines.

>>51495320
>>51495347
Either name works for me, I like the logo idea

>>51495347
Sorry, I misread which post that guy was replying to. Swords of Ishmael works great for me, too. Maybe we could use the term Dervish or some other Islamic warrior term for a specialised unit within the chapter?

>mfw we have a codex-violatingly large rabble of scouts and serfs supporting us called the mujahideen

>>51495448
>Oversized chapter
>maintains large pool of skirmish-fighter scouts with little-to-no oversight from chapter authority.

I shiggy diggy anon, minimum 2 companies of Mujahideen it is. High mortality rates among them and survivors inducted into the chapter

>>51495202
I like this vibe, I think if we're going for this sort of inspo we should be rigidly dogmatic to the letter of the codex but have our own weird twist on the spirit of it that sets us apart from the infidels

>>51495486
They fight with almost suicidal bravery because if they prove themselves worthy their bodies and souls will be infused with the Emperor's physical blessing and they will rise to the ranks of his angels.

>>51495486
maybe also if there's a vague distinction between the actual scouts and the mobs of serfs and faithful zealots who just kinda follow the chapter around

Maybe we can 'grant them passage' aboard our vessels as 'pilgrims' and not-so-subtly deploy them en masse against the enemy

>>51495320

For either name, I like this minus the writing, change the emblem to a four-pointed star.

>>51495509
>>51495537
>>51495556
And so it takes shape. Good suggestions all around

>>51495448
>Swords of Ishmael works great for me, too. Maybe we could use the term Dervish or some other Islamic warrior term for a specialised unit within the chapter?
Loving it.

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Mocked up some potential color schemes.

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>>51495809
I want to go with green, black and white (with red for vets, or something), but I'm not sure about the best arrangement.

What if we just pick and choose the parts of the Codex we like?

Like we could justify the Mujahideen as part of the codex sections on scouting and emphasize the idea of "loyalty" found in the codex as spiritual and religious

>>51495809
>>51495820
Maybe try reversing the black/green sections? What does that look like?

>>51495839
>Islam came into being after Mohammed "clarified" the Torah/Bible
What if the titular Ishmael was a "prophet" who "clarified" the Codex? So they're adherent to the Codex Ishmael, not the Codex Astartes.
Naturally, this causes friction with the Ultramarines.

>>51495809
This is baller, and pretty much what I was thinking (green, white, black). Maybe the amount of black on their armour signifies their sanctity until they're wearing full black chaplain gear?

>>51495809
>>51495820
The Swords of Fish, is a superior name.

>>51495914
Oh I love this

>>51495820
The white helmets I dig because it sort of evokes chaplains.

>>51495839
>>51495914

They're codex compliant, they're just not Imperial Cult compliant. This may manifest in some of their stranger practices and behaviors (like their chaplaincy effectively electing their leadership), but on the surface they look, act, and organize like a Space Marine chapter.

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>>51495910
Something like this? (Tweaked it a bit.)
>>51495923
Now this I can get behind. Mujahideen wear all-green, and then they steadily get blacker as they rise through the ranks.

>>51495923
>>51495991
I dig it. I like the black body/helmet with Green arms and greaves

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>>51495991
I'm personally liking this one.

>>51495923
>>51495991

This is a really good idea. It needs a deeper green like Dark Angels instead of a neon, but the general scheme and progression is gold.

>>51495991
As though to represent their sanctification, yes. Maybe start with the outer surfaces of their armour first (greaves, pauldrons) because they're broad, flat spaces on which can be inscribed white-on-black writing?

>>51496031
Pretty much every surface on a Space Marine is broad and flat, though, and I'd want to keep at least one pauldron green for the Chapter symbol.

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>>51496031

>>51496100
Not sure about this; could be too busy to paint efficiently. At least commit to one color or the other on the torso/lower leg/forearm/backpack, rather than mixing the green and black. That'll just be a pain.

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>>51496021
>>51496025
>>51496031
Okay, how about this.
Scouts start off in green and white only. Next stage is initiates in the Assault, Devastator and Tactical Reserve companies, who have earned through spilled blood the right to wear the black.

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>>51496237
Next comes the line companies; fully trained, the pride of the Chapter, clad in sacred black and green.

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>>51496253
Next, the veterans, company command squads, and similar.

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>>51496263
And lastly, the Captains, the holiest members of the Chapter, save only the Chaplains.
(Individual Captains will decorate their helmets in different patterns and arrangements.)

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>>51496263
Maybe more black would be better for the vets? Dunno.

>>51496321
I was thinking black terminators would be a good look, so maybe you're onto something.

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>>51496338
Like so?

>>51496420
Pretty fucking terrifying/10

Now, what shall our Dervishes be? Obviously the name evokes ritual dancers whirling around, and the closest thing I can think of to that is a specialised close assault company, but that might be a little bit too close to a BA successor's death company (especially if we're going with black=holy)

What do we think lads?

>>51496540
Honour guard with jump packs and power swords. They accompany the Clerics as their disciples

>>51496611
And robes?

>>51495320
Why not crossed chainswords?

>>51496792
Because that's not as cool looking, nor as easy to represent as a symbol.

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>>51497095
>>51495320

>>51496611
Jump packs only if the Clerics have them, presumably.

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>>51497565
Well why not?

Ok so would Clerics be all black save the helmet and green adornment then? Or even all black to show their piety? If black is the holy colour? Like pic related might make a good High Cleric

>>51497741
That's pretty great, but I think the white skull helm is a really iconic part of the chaplain aesthetic and is a pervasive reminder of mortality, so I wouldn't readily part from it.