The Fate of the Eldar

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>>51480204
go on

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cheers anon

>>51480204
what is that expression on Paul's face?

>>51480249
Not Scanon but one of his angles

>>51480239
I want that undead abortion to milk me

>>51480204
>Not the Rhana Dandra
So the 13th Black Crusade is either doomed to fail and the Emperor is safe, or the Eldar move to another galaxy to fight the Rhana Dandra elsewhere.

>>51480277
It is the face of 'why did I stay with this company for so long'
>>51480356
13th crusade has happened I thought and I thought we were on the 14th

>>51480356
Or it got forgotten by the writers.

Or the Rhana Dandra happens at the end of this whole shebang.

>>51480384
>Or it got forgotten by the writers.
Phil Kelly says right there that this is "not even close" to the Rhana Dandra

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>>51480356
The whole point of this book is lady ynnaelderraei trying to fuck up shit hard enough to make the old prophecies null and void.

I don't like it, though. Gathering storm just feels rushed.

>>51480414
Oh. Then that's really good to hear. Means we're less likely to get Age of the Emperor.

>>51480470
GW said it's just a narrative campaign not AoS'd

>>51480204
>the Fracture of Biel-Tan

Wew, hardcore grimdark name you got there GW.

Maybe the 40k End Times will reveal the Sprain of Terra at the hands of the greater daemon Kk'chu'rbuark the Somewhat Uncivil.

>>51480239

The bit about the swords reminds me that in the Iyanden supplement Iyanna was looking for something also connected to Morai-Heg.

>>51480356

As far as I'm aware the Rhana Dandra was never really set in stone and that with all the bad shit happening a lot of Eldar simply came to believe it's about to occur.

>>51480452

Prophecy as never really been concrete in 40k, it's completely possible for one to turn out wrong based on the actions of a person or multiple people.

>>51480518
Why does everyone think the universe is ending and not just changing for the worse
>>51480530
One must only read Betrayer to see how prophecies can be changed so quickly

>>51480470
They're just gonna push the Rhana Dandra into the beyond-the-end wars. Based on the way they're going, they're going to Age of Imperium with all of the factions the same but with little differences so they can work together in large, vague blocks, but without anything really changing - Look at how in Age of Sigmar everything is sigmarines and larger-than-life figures, but at the same time it's the same old wars being fought in the heavens instead of on the earth.

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BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE.

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>>51480606

>>51480571
>Why does everyone think the universe is ending and not just changing for the worse

It doesn't matter either way - it's still going to be complete shit due to GW simultaneously taking it far too seriously while making it stupid as fuck.

tl;dr

Did they just kill'd the best craftworld?

>>51480582

Interesting to hear some Wraith constructs fully awakening.

>>51480722

Well, at least Beil-Tan now knows the pain of Iyanden, Idharae and Malan'tai.

I think they were trash talking them in those Valedor Tyranid books.

>>51480722
Best craft world was always Eldard's so ...

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Friendly reminder that Rhana Dandra will never happen, because of a myriad of reasons

>Slaanesh too big
>Ynnead too small
>Great Game is best game with 4 players
>Isha

>>51480722
Sort of.

Beil Tan is now a fleet of ships instead of one big one, and it's populated by ferverent Ynnead worshippers and potentially undead elda- whoops, "Aeldari".

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>>51480679
that's pretty cool, I didn't expect any terrain models to be made.

>enjoy Dark Eldar
>we'll get buffed one day
>nope
>forced to play Superfriends with CW Shitters

Fuck this game

>>51481269
.......psychic......coochhair?

>>51481281

It doesn't appear as if any of the Eldar armies are going anywhere since there are still those who don't buy into Ynnead. Ynnari just seem to be a mishmash of certain units with different rules.

>>51481281
oh it gets worse; you will be able to sacrifice your dark eldar in the middle of the game so the craftworlders get stronger and better

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Anything about the Scion trampolines?

What's the tldr of all this?

I just play the miniatures, mostly. The over arching lore is sort of interesting to me, but only if it really affects the miniatures.

>>51480679
Holy shit. That terrain might be some of the most dangerous shit on the battlefield. How many points does it cost?

Did they do terrain formations before?

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>>51480679
Damn... on the one hand, those Venomgorse things would go great with my Tyranids... on the other hand, they would shred my units and MCs with all those poisoned attacks.

>>51481438

I think it was rumored that the Ynnari army list is basically going to be a combination of units from each of the Eldar armies currently available, but they're going to at least lose their army special rules in favor of new ones.

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>>51481281
I know that feeling anon but remain hopeful, you might get something cool!.

At least I got basilisks to make the Iron Cunts jelly.

>>51481265
Does that last bit mean Yriel dies and comes back? Is this going to actually change anything for him?

>>51481438
New eldar faction, worship god of death, includes members from all other eldar factions, two new characters who have been both craftworld and dark eldar at different times before forming the new faction (confirming that there has always been quite a bit of crossover between the two societies, which we kind of knew already). Biel-Tan (Green & White craftworld) gets blown up but it's people are still around, just scattered on smaller ships.

>>51481281
Yeah, I'm concerned that they will be squatting the Haemonculi stuff.

>>51481438
>Ynnead is a being that was being made in the different Infinity Circuits in the Craftworlds.
>Prophecies from Iyaden declare that being will perma-kill Slannesh and free the eldar.
>It is said that all the eldar must die to Ynnead to be born.
>Eldrad does not like that and tries to summon it earlier with a small troupe of Harlequins.
>The Deathwatch finds out about it and ruins the ritual. Something escapes to real space.
>Abbadon's 13th Temper Tantrum just began and he is totally serious this time. (Because the failures of before were retconed to JUST AS PLANNED)
>A cult of eldar from all factions believing in Ynnead becomes stronger.
>Guess what? Ynnead is real, with Avatar and everything else.
>While Abby is blowing Cadia to zog, a fracture between the Ynnari and everyone else takes center in Biel-Tan.

>>51481036
>Beil Tan is now a fleet of ships instead of one big one

Are you saying that until now Biel-Tan was an eldar Space Hulk?

>>51481664
Also, new names:

Aeldari: another name for Eldar. Used especially for the pre-fall Eldar (before Slaanesh came into being and the Eldar got split into Craftworld, DE, etc.) and now used mostly for craftworlders, I think.

Drukhari: not entirely clear, but seem to be some kind of Eldar. Possibly Dark Eldar or wraith constructs.

Ynnari: the new Eldar faction.

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>>51481728
>Are you saying that until now Biel-Tan was an eldar Space Hulk?
Not quite. As it turns out, all Craftworlds are made out of a bunch of smaller Eldar ships melded together by Bonesingers. When Biel-Tan's Infinity Circuit breaks, the Craftworld breaks up back into all those smaller ships. So now it is a fleet instead of one big ship.

>>51481036
>it's populated by ferverent Ynnead worshippers and potentially undead elda- whoops, "Aeldari"
Aeldari is the ancient name of the entirety of the Eldar from the heights of their empire. Ynnari is the name for the Ynnead worshipers with dank necromantic powers. Read the fucking thread nigga instead of just shitposting irresponsibly.

>>51481691

I doubt it considering they go out of their way to say they oppose this new faction.

Honestly this seems like nothing more than GW taking three new units and a bunch of existing ones to create a new army.

>>51481728
>Are you saying that until now Biel-Tan was an eldar Space Hulk?

All craftworlds are cobbled together out of smaller vessels. That's been the case pretty much since they introduced the idea of craftworlds.

>>51480217
The feathers don't look nearly as retarded in the drawing as they do in the final product.

>>51480722
>best craftworld
>implying Saim-Hann isn't the best and that the foolish reactionaries that harbored delusions of bringing back the old ways didn't deserve a kick back to reality

>>51481810

>Saim-Hann

Aren't they currently facing encirclement by two tendrils of Leviathan?

>>51481848
>not playing a double bluff

Soooooooooooooooo, End Times anyone?

>>51481281
>playing Dark Eldar in 7e
Look lad, you were asking for utter pain and misery. This is just the par of your chosen course. The 6e codex was an abomination, the only thing actually worth fielding from DE codex are the haemonculi creations thanks to the Covens supplement, and even then as an augmentation to an Eldar force. The rest of my DE have been gathering dust on shelves for years, at least now I'll be able to dust off my Incubi and Wyches. Just for the privilege of somewhat viable Wyches alone I am ready to sacrifice anything Ynnead desires.

>>51481848
Do you even dance with the Cosmic Serpent? Saim-Hann wouldn't have it any other way, the absolute madmen.

>>51480732
If the supplement makes the ol' Wraithlord viable again, I will make daily sacrifices to the dark lord Phil Kelly once more.

>>51481882
No End Times, GW have stated this. Planets shattering, gods being born, this is just your average day in 40k.

>>51481953
It's really not, though.

>>51481968
It kinda is. It's just not something that has happened for a while in the setting.

>>51481324

Yea, but instead of buffs, we become sacrificial pawns to CW shit like >>51481408 said.

>>51481622

Like what? Super special op special characters? That's not how you make a faction playable.

>>51481691

Doesn't sound that way. If anything, its fuel for the Haemys to be pissed because they're not the only one who's can bring people back.

>>51481900

I don't give a shit. They're what I like. Why the fuck should I be forced to play eldar Superfriends just so my wyches are playable? Oh wait, they're not. They're sacrificial offerings to craftworlders.

That's what pisses me off here.

>>51480606
So he was a military instructor who quit his job to chase after some girl who got bored with his classes and moved out of town, in his pursuit he went to the space fantasy equivalent of Roanapur, found religion, got himself a new job as the head of a PMC by killing its exec, and conveniently enough his new occupation put him in an excellent position to stalk that girl he was acquainted with at some point a few hundreds or thousands of years ago.

>>51481953
>GW
GW would lie about the moon existing if it got them more profits
>Planets shattered
3rd most important planet in the entire Imperium , and from facebook they said Cadia will be one of many planets to be destroyed
Inb4 Terra and Mars
>Gods being born
it has been 10,000years++ since a new god was made

>>51482193
I dunno, Anon. Have yiu ever been to the Moon?

>>51481953
>No End Times, GW have stated this. Planets shattering, gods being born, this is just your average day in 40k.

Do you have a different 40k timeline ? because I don't remember anything close to this """""""AVERAGE""""""" day in the last 15 years

>>51481953
>le averageday meme leeeel

Gw telling us it's the average day is blatant lie, especially if you followed the lore even partially the last 20 years

>>51482470
Planetes are destroyed on a regular basis in 40k. Either from Chaos, Xenos or the Imperium. Gods being born are less common.

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>>51480722
Best Craftworld is Iybraesil, because it's full of Banshees.

I just wanna know if they plan on pushing Slaanesh way off to the sidelines in 40k as well.

>>51482841
Can't imagine why they would, seeing as how Slaanesh has actually been very focalized and elaborated on in most of the recent books.

Warden of the Blade and Daemon World off the top of my head both heavily feature Slaaneshi Daemons. It doesn't make sense to hype up a faction, especially one as absolutely crucial to the setting as a Chaos God, only to push it off to the side and never talk about it again or give it anything.

Even in AoS, Slaanesh isn't dead - only captured. It can theoretically come back at any time, and I suspect it will.

>>51483225
>It can theoretically come back at any time
And Leman Russ could wolf his way back on a wolf to the Wolfperium and punch Abaddon's face in at any time, but as far as I know that hasn't happened yet.

>>51480217
>THE YNCARNE, AVATAR OF YNNEAD
seriously, the fucking yncarne? that's the best name they could come up with?

>>51483550
More hung up on that than "Aeldari"?

>>51481770
You're delusional beyond belief if you don't believe that Games Workshop isn't going to rename Eldar for IP purposes.

so what the fuck does ynead do when the eldar die? she eats them and safe guards them in her belly from slaneesh or something?

>>51483225
Dunno about Warden of the Blade but Daemon World isn't a new book. It was published over 10 years ago I think.

>>51480239
what if the dawnblade is one of the 5 swords

>>51483709
that sounds dumb enough to be true

i wonder how khaine or rather the avatar of khaine feels about this. then again he's a jerk that caused a lot of problems

>>51483709
>>51483727
I just had another dumb thought. What if cypher's sword is the fifth one.

>>51483767
Do Khaine's avatars even think or feel much about anything except how they're super angry? I'm curious, because I really can't recall anything about them possessing higher mental faculties. I thought they were more like autonomous robots with anger issues.

>>51483798
Sshhh. Don't give them ideas.

>>51483798
>>51483709
>>51483818
hmm. makes sense if they were shorter if one was the pinky and the other the thumb.

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>>51483644
>You're delusional beyond belief if you don't believe that Games Workshop isn't going to rename Eldar for IP purposes.

Sadly true. Luckily they'll always be Eldar to the people who knew them as such before, just like the "Astra Militarum" will always be the Imperial Guard and the various races of Warhammer Fantasy will always retain their old names in my mind.

If you remember the past and stick to what you knew the change isn't as hard to swallow.

>>51483809
one had enough free will and stupidity to try and challenge a hive tyrant to a duel, the tyrant let him talk while it positioned carnifexes behind it and ROFLOstomped him

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>it's another "Let's see how much we can suck Chaos' dick by letting them suddenly begin winning everything and destroying the universe can we can start over with a shitty new world that'll force players to buy new overpriced armies" Games Workshop update

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>>51483862
>>51480204

>>51480470
Age of Mary Sues and Good Guys.

All bad factions will be relegated to NPC status.

>>51483862
>it's another "named characters literally decide the fate of everything while the armies themselves are completely sidelined" episode

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>>51480239

>I imagine the visarch is what a corsair really looks like!

GW and Forge World really don't have any idea what the other is doing, do they?

>>51480239
>Didn't even consider allying with Necrons

Rascist.

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>>51483862
>>51483900
>>51483993
>Hey guys, how ya doin'? Enjoyin' your games of 40k, are ya? My oh my, the lore's so cool, huh? Dontcha' just love the setting, canon, and characters?


>It'd be a real shame if somethin' happened to it, huh?

>>51480204
Oh noooo.

Macha's homeless now.

>>51484030
their corsair releases were just a craftworld reskin, and they never even bothered to make a corsair prince

do they really count?

>>51480204
So no Big Bird this month?

>>51480217
So she's not Lady Malys?
Bummer.

>>51484092
>So no Big Bird this month?
the lord of change is up for pre order, man

>>51482193
I'm already ignoring all of the new canon. 40k started going downhill fast around 2007 or so for me. Them inexplicably destroying Cadia as Chaos fanservice really nailed the coffin shut on anything lore-related GW puts out from now on. The only way they can redeem this now is if the Emperor appears, swords off Slaanesh's hermophroditic dick and strangles Abbadon with it, but even then I'd be hard-pressed to believe they'd do anything to at all weaken Chaos. It's their favorite faction across the board and the ultimate definition of an Evil Mary Sue race, and has been since... well, 2007 or so.

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>>51482127
Eldar mating rituals everyone

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>>51484030

Not sure about the rules or lore, but FW really halfassed the Corsair models. They probably should have had their own aesthetic and I can't really tell why they went the route they did other than it being cheaper, less time consuming, and Corsairs possibly looking like Craftworld Eldar before the latter became a thing.

It's also Goodwin saying that, so I'm inclined to believe that the existing Corsairs are nothing like he pictured.

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>>51482753
Its criminal to have hips like that

>>51484154
>Them inexplicably destroying Cadia
>inexplicably

Do you know what that word means?

>>51484288
"inexplicably" in this case means due to brainbustingly retarded logic or canon-defiling means and in this case it's both

>>51484308
>brainbustingly retarded logic or canon-defiling means and in this case it's both

How is it both?
The planet was destroyed in an entirely logical manner.

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Quick, is Saim-Hann okay?!

>>51484335
>entirely logical manner
By that do you mean named characters doing things for obvious Chaos fanservice?

The only thing I care about is Lelith getting out okay.

>>51484410

Just because it hurts your feelings doesn't mean it's not logical.

>>51484410
>By that do you mean named characters doing things for obvious Chaos fanservice?

Care to explain yourself rather than just meme impotently?

>>51484424
>>51484429
You tell me how a total failure of a leader and the Evil Mary Sue brigade of Chaos managed to destroy the third-best fortified planet in the Imperium with the best fighting force that they got their asses kicked over a dozen times before trying to take and how it isn't GW's tradition of pandering hardcore to Chaos.

>>51484457
>a total failure of a leader
> they got their asses kicked over a dozen times before

I dislike the recent Chaos wankery, but this isn't true at all. The "Abaddon is a failure/attacked Cadia 12 times before" stuff is just fanon and memes, it's never actually had any grounding in the fluff.

>>51484488
>over 12 black crusades
>over 12 attempts to take cadia that failed miserably
>despite abaddon having the full power of the warp, the ruinous powers, and limitless resources behind him
>he still lost

You're right in that he's not an incompetent failure, it's just that the defenders of Cadia were such legendary badasses that not even the Chaos gods themselves could take them down. That was how it was supposed to be and how it's been for a very long time. The "brilliant" minds at GW decided that wasn't good enough, though, because Emperor forbid Chaos ever truly loses.

>>51480356
Remember End Times? Rhana Dandra in like 6 months after everyone fails to stop Chaos and the Emperor replaces Slaanesh as the 4th Chaos God.

>>51480414
>Phil Kelly says right there that this is "not even close" to the Rhana Dandra
Yeah and in Deathmasque they said that all infinity cirquits were lost in Warp, yet still Ynnead so ehow consume cirquit of Biel-Tan

>>51484516
>>over 12 attempts to take cadia that failed miserably
Retconned. Taking Cadia was never a primary strategic objective before the 13th crusade.

>>51484377
Yeah, though i wish it were them and iyanden
Motherfucking plastic aspects fucking when you "model company"

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>>51484516
>>over 12 attempts to take cadia that failed miserably

No. Most Black Crusades bypassed Cadia entirely. You should learn the fluff before trying to talk about it.

>>51484598
>retconned

Then it should be obvious that that's shitty and should be ignored. Once again, GW bending over backwards and spreading their black hole of an ass begging for Chaos to fuck it at our expense.

>>51484602
I don't pay attention to the retcons because most of them are shit, and retcons like this especially are shit since their only purpose is to make Chaos stronger than they need to be.

>>51484410
>By that do you mean named characters doing things for obvious Chaos fanservice?

Named character did almost nothing by themselves though. The most OP single character was Urkrathos and he ultimately failed.

>>51480722
RIP Macha.

>>51483900
did your reaction image have to be 2.3MB

>>51484602
What is the point of half of those fucking Crusades, holy hell Abbadon is such a fucking dummy

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>>51484623
>I don't pay attention to the retcons because most of them are shit

But it's not a retcon.
It's old fluff that not all the crusades were aimed at Cadia.

>>51480722
No, I checked. They have not rewritten my Eldar fanfic.

>>51484658
>What is the point of half of those fucking Crusades

Gathering artifacts, allies and as revealed in Fall of Cadia, smashing pylons.

>>51484658
Just ho read the Black Legion supplement. It explains his objectives for every single one of those twelve campaigns.

>>51484679
>>51484684
>Gathering artifacts, allies and as revealed in Fall of Cadia
Still insanely ineffecient though when compared to his viking version Archaon in Fantasy

>>51484661
note the lack of acknowledgment on this one, He rejects info he doesnt like, simple as that, granted I agree on the sentiment that chaos's one fucking weakness of being near unable to work together or stick with a goal is never relevant in the scheme of things

>>51481311
I think its conduit.

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>>51484706
And look how he ended up.

>>51484706

The only reason that was efficient was because it was only one world.

Abaddon has to manage to much larger invasion by comparison.

>>51484658
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Black_Crusade#A_new_perspective

Go read that. It's basically just a summary of what each crusade was about. It's 1d4chan, but that particular section is written with a minimal amount of dank memes and pretty much covers the gist of what happened in practical terms, so if you're a lazy ass it's good enough for you.

>>51484658

Probably worth noting the Imperium has come off worse from every one of those Crusades, leaving Abaddon open to affect wider schemes.

>>51484658
Originally, Black Crusades were meant to give Abaddon a reason to show up in another part of the galaxy around the Eye of Terror. Then GW retconned the maps to make them more far-ranging. Generally, aside from The Gothic War, the goal was to somehow cripple the Imperium and invade Terra. They were never meant to fail.

I like what Jes did on those new characters, but really they lack a common visual identity, and their background is pretty uninteresting

>>51484602
How would Abbadon ever make it even halfway to Terra?
I can buy taking a world or two, but the Imperium has practically infinite forces to throw at him.

>>51484795

Failures or not, they were so pleasing in the eyes of the Gods that Abaddon was offered Ascension more than 12 times, refusing each offer.

>>51484810
>the Imperium has practically infinite forces to throw at him.

No, the Imperium is stretched to breaking point as is.
Meanwhile Abaddon really does have limitless forces in the form of daemon legions

>>51484810
I'm wondering where Chaos is getting their manpower from. Every one of his crusades was smashed, but he keeps coming back with more and more forces every time. I'm pretty sure near the end he was outnumbering the Imperium's forces quite a bit. The infinite numbers of Chaos never sat well with me.

>>51484841
>I'm wondering where Chaos is getting their manpower from.

Empire of the Eye + Renegades + Daemons

>>51484829
>No, the Imperium is stretched to breaking point as is.
Since when?
Last time I checked, the Imperium, while under constant attack from all sides, was still fucking powerhouse, with the main problem beng actually mobilisin its forces.

>>51484858
>Since when?

Since forever.
It's why whenever something scary shows up the Imperium has to abandon warzones.
They are incapable of fighting all their battles.

>>51484841
he got new allies in some of his black crusades, with minimal losses

>>51484658
>why would you repeatedly attack the one spot that costs your enemy a lot to defend.

>>51484879
Quotation?
Because I can't recall any instance of the Imperium ever running low on manpower.
Closest thing I can think of is one of the major Space marince chapter being occupied elsewhere.

>>51484924
>Quotation?

Any 40k fluff. The Imperium is a crumbling edifice.

>I can't recall any instance of the Imperium ever running low on manpower.

Damocles. They had to pull out to go fight the Tyranids instead.
There's fluff in the ruebook about the High Lords abandoning governance of of sectors to Marines because they don't have enough.
The deathwatch codex mentions that the Imperium has had to focus its attention on Chaos, leaving aliens to run rampant.

>>51484924
It's not that they are low on manpower, it's more that there are increasingly far more battles than what the Imperium can handle. They're being forced to chose between thousands of calls for help for the ones that are the most important.

>>51484030
GW still use the ancientbad Armour Through the Ages models for articles on power armour lore, rather than the infinitely better Forge World sculpts, so probably. They only seem to notice what FW's doing when they want to lift ideas from them and rake in some of that sweet HH money for themselves.

>>51484087 and >>51484172 have a point though, that Corsair release was a half-assed reskin, so it hardly counts. Probably for the best that they didn't make a full model range for them though, since I think Corsairs are one of those factions that shouldn't have a single aesthetic - which is why Games "all art should just copy the models" Workshop should keep their filthy hands off them.

>>51484924
The entire fucking fluff surrounding the buildup for the invasion of Cadia. Systems are abandoned to the Tyranids to face this new threat.

>>51484335
>>51484424
>>51484429
>>51484598
You again!
>>51484602
That's a retcon, moron!
>>51484771
False! The Macharian Crusade was the largest and most successful military action EVER undertaken by the Imperium. It occurred about 100 years ago (1000 yrs by retcon), so.....

>>51484971
That'ts why I said that I can buy Abbadon doing some damage, but as soon as the Imperium gets going, he should be roally fucked.

>>51484971

See >>51484965

The High Lords are literally abandoning whole sectors to try to blunt the Tyranids and the Traitors because they have lost way too much manpower in a relatively short amount of time. There are nowhere near enough Guardsmen regiments or Astartes to address every threat, which ranges from grave to very grave by the End Times.

>>51484172
>pirarto
Man, Blanche really needs to lay off the Ye Olde Butchieurred Ynglissh.

>>51485042

Abaddon is already fucked. The good news for Abaddon is now is the perfect time to march to Terra, with the Cadia defense apparatus wiped out and the Imperium crumbling on all fronts. The bad news is he had no hope at all of repeating Horus' march to Terra because you have no less than three xeno parties who are prepared to act against or are already acting against him.

>Eldar are already teaming up with Saint Celestine and THE FUCKING BLACK TEMPLARS OH WHAT I GUESS THEYRE THE WEBWAY TEMPLARS NOW ARMED WITH TOP OF THE LINE AELDARI WEAPONRY OHSHITMOTHERFUCKER
>Necrons literally live to fuck with Chaos and Tzeentch specifically (and not even intentionally)
>Orks are about to crash down on whats left of Cadia and clog the Eye of Terror, cutting off Abaddon's supply lines

Farsight Enclave and the Tyranids are also bound to have their turns at getting to Terra and dicking Abaddon in the face.

>>51485111
>Implying all of those wont end up fighting each other.

>>51485111
Don't worry the new super suits will make short work of you so it's painless.

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Resurrection Ain't free. The haemonculi's regeneration chambers gotta be fueled with the death-throes of slaves. Yvraine aka "the emissary" is NOT my arhcon. she is ynnari graftworlder and probably necromancer as well :DD VECT and power through pain not Ynnead and strength through DEATH ok. praise the dark muses.

>>51485079
no

>>51485197

The route that GW is probably aiming for is civil war within all factions into conservative "my race only" and liberal "lets all get along".

>Saint Celestine's Crusade literally breaking Imperial Cult rules
>Astartes taking charge of entire abandoned Imperial systems
>Necron factions who are clearly divided into pro-interventionist and pro-kill them all
>Tau civil war

Orks will generally fight everybody, and Tyranids are generally the looming great evil unless some miraculous bullshit happens like Hivefleet Ultramar or Tyranids actually rushing to protect the Emperor at all costs.

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>>51485273
Perfect.

Chaos has been doing this for 10000 years. We'll be fine.

>>51485241
*knoe

>>51485298

The first 1k years was literally traitor civil war
The next 9k years was Abaddon holding get together parties
End Times is literally everyone piggy backing off Abaddon until he gets crippled then its every man for himself again

Oh and don't forget, Huron Blackheart is not your fucking friend

>>51485220
Resurrected my ass. Ynnead munches your soul to kill shit like a double aa battery.

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>>51485334
come on
that's nonsense
doesn't it look trustworthy?

I mean look at it

it's even got a purple and gold color scheme, friendly-looking colors

>>51485368
If this turns out to have been Slaanesh playing one massive joke at the end I'll laugh

>>51480367
>13th crusade has happened I thought and I thought we were on the 14th

No, retcon.

>>51485444
it's not, but as I suspected, it's very likely that there were a few daemonettes thrown into the mix

>>51485273
What's this about saint Celestine now? She's a sob, she has to be the most fire and brimstone bitch to live

>>51485368
>>51485444
>>51485466

Why do you people continue to pretend that Dark Eldar aren't debauchery incarnate? That shit will reflect in Ynnead. The Eldar Emperess Gaga isn't a fucking pure waifu, shes going to be fapping Aspect dick in one hand and jerking DE dick in the other.

>>51485488
oh it's not just that, the infinity circuit of Biel-tan was apparently being attacked by daemons as the Yncarne was manifesting.

the WD makes it pretty clear that the Yncarne might be (wink wink, nudge nudge) corrupted by slaanesh.

>>51485488
Yeah she was a full-on Succubus before becoming Death God's ambassador.

The way I see it, Dark Eldar are Eldar that looked back at the Fall, shrugged and actually cranked the drugs/sex/torture up even more. It's going to be interesting to see them play nice with their stricter cousins.

>>51485541
meh, what I want is for them to become an actual new faction with a cohesive aesthetic and new models that reflect it.

Because so far, the triumvirate doesn't really have a strong visual identity that tells me "oh these guys are the DEATH ELDAR", they just look like a corsair, lady malys and a chaos eldar.

>>51483699
I dunno but her followers can absorb them to get more powerful.

>>51483699
basically yeah, like Cegorrach

>>51483644
Isn't Eldar already copyrighted?

>tfw no wraithbone-infused black metal eldars of death that look like sylvaneth

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>>51485567
They also have a red and black colour scheme.

>>51484623
>their only purpose is to make Chaos stronger than they need to be
How strong do they "need" to be exactly?

>>51485675
Pretty metal looking.

>>51484709
Is there just the one butthurt idiot constantly whining about how chaos is too op or is there a whole mob of them? You can never tell on a website like this.

>>51485675
Only the Visarch's buttbuddies do, apparently.
>>51485696
not really no
dark eldars look cybergoth, craftworlders and harlequins look new-romantic. Giving them Shadow the Hedgehog's color scheme isn't gonna make them look metal

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>>51485273
>Saint Celestine's Crusade breaking Imperial Cult rules

I missed this, and I'm almost not sure if I want to know. Are the SoB just getting set up as someone for good loyal Imperials to fight now? Should I start crying over the fact that now I dread any change that comes to 40k rather than welcome it?

>>51485734
The demon-red color with all the horns, I mean. It's a lot more metal than the typical taste-the-rainbow aspect warriors coloration.

>>51485744
That's what you get for wanting to "advance the plot".

We fucking told you.
We fucking told you 40k wasn't made for being advanced and that any change would be for the worst.

But you didn't fucking listen, because you were under the delusion that "advancing the plot" would mean "my faction will win and do awesome shit" or some similarly retarded assumption, instead of ACTUALLY doing those awesome things with YOUR ARMY, because that's what the setting is originally made for: to allow YOU to do cool shit with your army. You know, to forge a narrative, instead of relying on drunk britbong writers to do it for you.

But stagnation is bad, right? Progress is necessarily good, right? New is always better than old, right?

This is what you get.

>>51485781
what horns?
The incubi's?
They've had them since the 5th edition.

If anything, strawberry red makes them look MORE like candy and LESS metal than the usual dark eldar blackish color scheme.

It really does seem like your idea of "metal" is based on children's cartoons.

>>51481728
>>Abbadon's 13th Temper Tantrum just began and he is totally serious this time. (Because the failures of before were retconed to JUST AS PLANNED)

I really wish people like you get cancer and die because you are such a cancer to the fanbase. Spreading memes instead of actually discussing the lore. Please die.

Back then amd now. The Crusades weren't portrayed as failures and a greater plan behind them was always hinted.

>>51485614
GW is the current licence holder for "Eldar". The term was lifted from Tolkien though, so they might want something that they won't end up in disputes over down the road.

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>>51485796
I never asked for this. I just want to roll back the clock and have a setting that still be there for me five years down the line.

>>51485796
Well, we can hope that this was alread in production before the regme change at GW and things will take a turn for the better...

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>>51485040
>That's a retcon, moron!

Nope. Now please get cancer.

>>51485843
This is the future you chose, you heretical idol-worshipper, now hold on to your false prophet "saint" Celestine and roll with it.

ITT: people being salty as shit because failbaddan the armless one got retconned into not being the shitty useless fuck everyone knows he is and people being salty GW has never given a singular flying fuck about their fans.
you all deserve this for continuing supporting these shits long after the fact you knew this would happen.

>>51484609
Nope. Not even in the old fluff was it true. Fucking newfag.

>>51484749
An awesome overthetop setting?

>>51485867
You can't even point at any retcons. EAch time you try, people show you are moronically wrong.

Anyways back to the topic before the Imperial retards derailed it.

Why is Vect against Ynnead? What does he gain from this? What does he losses if Ynnead is reborn?

>>51480606
Why not just make him Ahra and use a cool character that already exists?

>>51485989
Because Farsight is Arha.

>Arha burns with the Dark Flame of Chaos
>Farsight will become the "mont'shaar" aka The Terror That Burns Dark

Coincidence? I think not.

>>51485946
>Why is Vect against Ynnead? What does he gain from this? What does he losses if Ynnead is reborn?

Power and top spot.

>>51480414
right, his point is that this arc is not the Rhana Dandra

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SOMEONE CALL PETA, THE VISARCH IS WEARING A CLOAK MADE OUT OF DEAD GYRINXES !!!!!!!
EVEN OTHER ELDARS ARE SHOCKED BY THIS DECADENCE!!!!

>>51484917
>why would you continue to take horrible losses and fail your goals repeatedly

Even the worst Imperial generals aren't as bad as Abaddon. He'll lose a hundred trillion Chaos followers before he admits defeat, even if him winning gains nothing.

>>51486022
How does Ynnead threaten his power, though?

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>>51485273
>>51485111
And this is why they're complete fuck ups. They are literally copypasting Age of Sigmar, ruining everything good about 40k lore, and wiping their asses with everything we hold dear just to make us buy new armies. Meanwhile, some of you seem content with this. As I like both WHF and WH40k in equal measure, I'm astounded that people aren't getting more upset that 20+ years of lore and worldbuilding is being flushed down the fucking shitter.

>>51485675
>dat 4th edition miniatures
>guys, guys, GW making best miniatures in the world, totally worth premium price

>>51485796
>We fucking told you 40k wasn't made for being advanced and that any change would be for the worst.
Not sure if I agree that ANY change would be for the worst--I've actually been thinking that GW would have handled this much better in the early-to-mid 2000s.

I think the issue with recent lore developments like >>51485744 is that GW's intent on giving excuses for everyone to fight both themselves and everyone else, all the time, forever, because they want people to feel free to buy whatever toys they want. They know that a lot of people like the fluff, and enjoy playing fluffy games, and having factions that are more-or-less unified technically runs against that, so they're making the free-for-all state of affairs canon. And they don't seem to be concerned with how flimsy and contrived the excuses for it are either, they only care that it works.

Age of Sigmar is pretty much founded on that shit, hence the infinite realms (read: colour-coded battle arenas) of infinite infinity and whatnot--it's the antithesis of the old WHFB setting, and it's like that on purpose. It shouldn't be surprising that 40K is getting a taste of the same.

>>51481953
>THESE ARE THE FINAL DAYS OF THE 41ST MILLENIUM

Dude it's right in the 1st sentence of the goddamn threads OP.

Keep.
Up.

>>51485866
They just had to update her model and rules! They didn't need to change anything.

>>51480204
That artwork of Ynnead looks SOOOOOOO much better than the model.

>>51486110
Well, new CEO refocusing GW to a new audience, so deal with it.

>>51486076
he makes dark eldars NOT AFRAID OF DEATH
The entirety of dark eldar society is built on them being so afraid to die they do all sorts of crazy shit to stave off death, including joining the Kabals and helping them, because it gives them the opportunity to eat people's souls and to get resurrected by haemonculi.

Vect is at the top of this pyramid, he rules over an empire of junkies who are addicted to pain and he controls its flow.

So all of a sudden, there's this witch who comes out of nowhere, drawing Slaanesh nearby with her psychic power, and telling his people that they don't need to be afraid of Slaanesh anymore and all they gotta do is let her diddle their souls and they'll be fine, they no longer need to get a gold subscription to a kabal because they no longer need to get into realspace raids and bring back slaves to soul-leech.

Fuck that bitch.

>>51485689
Strong enough but weak enough that they're not the Mary Sue of the 40k world.

Back in the day, things were even and sensible, but just like in Fantasy, GW along the way got a massive erection for everything Chaos-related, which is why after 2007 Chaos never truly loses, the Gods never lose or get worried about losing, and their forces perpetually win and have infinite resources to fight with.

>>51485796
This sums up the whole thing. People wanted 40k to advance. We all warned you this shit would happen. But you didn't listen. No, WE didn't listen. None of us did.

>>51485833
>the chaos fanboy says someone is cancer to the fanbase.

Chaos was good once upon a time. Now, they're total shit and GW's writers refuse to stop jerking them off at every possible opportunity, and it's because fanboys like you got so butthurt that Muh Edgelord faction wasn't winning enough.

muh chaos muh anarchy muh death fuck da empra muh slaanesh porn

>>51480239
I don't get it.

Morai-heg was an important plot point in a Warhammer Fantasy book, but was 100% forgotten in End Times. Morai-heg barely exists in 40k, but is important in 40k End Times.

>>51486134
it's just the cheese warp power that looks bad.

>>51482127
No wonder they are a dying race

>>51486127
>Age of Sigmar is pretty much founded on that shit, hence the infinite realms (read: colour-coded battle arenas) of infinite infinity and whatnot--it's the antithesis of the old WHFB setting, and it's like that on purpose. It shouldn't be surprising that 40K is getting a taste of the same.

Give narrative where Stormcast vs Stormcast and Seraphon vs Seraphon

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>>51484067
This one needs an update.

>>51485867
don't even bother, failbadan has such a strong following of moronic fanboys who think he's some kind of living god that can't/shouldn't ever face defeat. i remember a while back some circlejerking chaosfags suggesting he become the new emperor

>>51485473
>>51485744

It's Inquisitor Greyfax who has a problem with Celestine due to how she was seemingly worshiped by the defenders of Cadia. Greyfax is Hereticus though so her being on the Ecclesiarchy like flies on shit is nothing new.

Can't really think of anything Celestine has done to break rules besides the Black Templars deciding they're on her side.

>>51485368
>>51485444
>>51485466
>>51485533

>The Avatar is the mirror of Slaanesh - they are siblings. His power comes from Eldar souls - hence he looks quite Slaaneshi. They are made of the same stuff.

This is a paraphrase from the Twitch stream given reason as for why the Yncarne as Slaanesh overtones. Admittedly it also works well to cause friction between the Ynnari and various other Eldar.

>>51486076

Before the Ynnari the Eldar were divided with the majority of Dark Eldar willingly or begrudgingly dancing to Vect's tune. Now hoever you have Dark Eldar and Craftworlders, possibly more, jumping on to the Ynnari bandwagon and creating the largest faction of Eldar. In addition it's the Dark Eldar's condition which keeps them in Commorragh and playing Vect's game, if the Ynnari somehow come up with a cure for this than any Dark Eldar can just decide to leave the Webway since now there is possibly the option to live how they currently are without getting drained or eaten by Slaanesh when they die and the possibility instead of reincarnation. The Ynnari are also offering tangible power.

>>51486117

To be fair, the Dire Avengers and possibly some or all of the Aspect Warriors still hold up as being decent.

>>51486162
Shut up cancer. You are cancer because you make false claims about old lore and then pretend you know it. You don't even admit you are wrong after being proven wrong in this thread. You have no dignity and integrity as a human being because like I said you are cancer. Go away cancer.

Fucking cancer

>>51486215
>i totally proofed u wrong!!!!
>Never once proved me wrong, only called others and me cancer

try again

>>51486205
>To be fair, the Dire Avengers and possibly some or all of the Aspect Warriors still hold up as being decent.
Yeah because other aspect warriors models from 3th edition, Phoenix Lords from 2th.

>>51481008
Then you have AoS, where the Great Game had a player booted and replaced by a guy who's not even trying to win, and a guy who's trying to flip the board while the other four sit on it.

>>51486184
Tainted by the madness of the new Strigoi?

>>51486205
>Before the Ynnari the Aeldari were divided with the majority of Dark Exiles willingly or begrudgingly dancing to Vect's tune. Now hoever you have Dark Exiles and Highborn, possibly more, jumping on to the Ynnari bandwagon and creating the largest faction of Aeldari. In addition it's the Dark Exile's condition which keeps them in Commorragh and playing Vect's game, if the Ynnari somehow come up with a cure for this than any Dark Exiles can just decide to leave the Webway since now there is possibly the option to live how they currently are without getting drained or eaten by Slaanesh when they die and the possibility instead of reincarnation. The Ynnari are also offering tangible power.
Cevin-fix
Totally original content, do not steal

>>51486229
" All Crusades were about Cadia. They were all failures. RETCONS""

>>51485864 4th ED

>>51484602 6th ED

On top of being cancer you can't read apperntly. People in this thread already discussed this.

>>51486005
If this happens... oh my god I'll be pissed off and it will be cool. I normally don't like Eldar crap but that is what you would call a good logical twist to explain his blade.

On the other hand most lore evidence points to a C'tan blade or Old One.

>>51486264
>Dark Exiles

Drukhari, Anon.

>>51485689
Stronger than this.
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Storm_of_Chaos

>>51486184

The Stormcast battletome actually gave a reason for why two Stormcast armies could be fighting, as part of training in the gladiatorium in Azyr.

Seraphon I'm less sure about, though I vaguely recall something about not all Slaan agreeing with each other, so they could fight over the best course of action.

>>51486246

Slaanesh is in Tzeentch's pocket and the Horned Rat is trying to win, as unlikely as it is. Completely plausible that Tzeentch will not give a damn about Slaanesh being found since Khorne and Nurgle have been weakened, he may even welcome it to keep them from regaining their strength since Slaanesh lost a lot of territory.

>>51486293
Hi shill

>>51486302
>Everyone who disagrees with me is a shill

>>51485893
>An awesome overthetop setting?
Faggot.

I WANT A VECT MODEL GOD DAMMIT

WITH PLENTY OF LONG SPIKES AND GEMS AND SILK ROBES AND A FU-MANCHU MUSTACHE

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>>51486168
Yeah. Kind of like how Nagash looks pretty good if you get rid of the stupid hat and neon up the magic.

>>51486341
>no model guy vs new model dudes

He gonna dead, boi.

>>51486354
I dunno, some level of mesopotamian hat is still necessary

>>51486341
-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-

>>51485220
Love this!

>>51485893
"Awesome" means "cartoonish" now?

>>51486117
Only models I see in need of a replacement there are the Incubi, and mainly because Finecast.

>>51486293
>The Stormcast battletome actually gave a reason for why two Stormcast armies could be fighting, as part of training in the gladiatorium in Azyr.
Yeah, I think it's suggested that Stormcast training exercises are more-or-less small-scale warfare. Why pull your punches when you can come back to life?

>>51486358
FU
MANCHU
STACHE

>>51486354
>getting rid of his Necropope Hat

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>>51486367
But Nagash was Egyptian. At no point prior to End Times did he ever even leave Nehekhara.

Personally I find it doesn't look as bad without his Scarlet Witch cosplay tiara.

>>51486354
The lack of hat gives him pinhead syndrome though.

>>51486395
he just needs a smaller big hat but still a big hat because he's the god of undeath nao

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>>51486379
With his tiny baby head, it looks fucking stupid.

Now this works much better.

>>51486410
>>51486417
How nao?

>>51486426
now THIS is proper

the flying books still look tacky and he needs his skelly beourd tho

>>51486426
Pretty darn good.
Kudos.

>>51486426
how'd you fix the robes?

>>51486447
Yeah, needs a beard.
I do like the books though.

I also feel that if you don't use the staff, it should be slung on his back and that the hand holding the ghost which in turn is holding the book with a ghost coming out is the best combo.

>>51486462
>>51486464
I got that on Google looking for Nagash mods.
Here's what the image goes with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZACv-yOtRg

>>51486426
wait, where's that face from?

>>51486447
one mod I liked was one of the hosts holding his bookstaff for him while he held the sword himself

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>>51486515
Necrosphinx kit. OOP, along with the rest of Tomb Kings.

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>>51486533
The mummy face might be a better Nagash. I mean, if you're a death god and not even in your original body anyway, you may as well get some magic skin. Or wear a mask.
Nagash never really wanted to be a Skeleton. I mean, fucker can snap his finger and pop vampires back to blood from dust, dude's gotta be able to grow himself some lips to sneer with.

>>51486519
oooh, that's a good idea

anyway on the topic of the Yncarne, I think it's gonna be really hard to remove the magic cheese.

We'll have to wait until we see the sprues but it doesn't look promising.

At any rate, the eldar triumvirate looks better as conversion material (for corsairs, DE and chaos eldar) than as what it's actually supposed to represent.

>>51486567
Maybe you can combine the parts that work with parts of Nagash and C'tan?

They're all basically the same thing.

>>51486565
he's skeletor he doesn't need a face

>>51486588
yeah but no: the warp cheese looks fused into his body and into his hair, it's not the kind of thing you can fix with a quick greenstuff job.

I hope GW at least uses this event as an opportunity to bring back the Oldcrons.

By which I mean not just C'tan worshippers, but also leaner Necrons who wear tattered robes and look like skeletons. Instead of big bulky toy-like golems with scales.

>>51480722
Altansaar is still kicking, so no.

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>>51486608
I think you could snip and sand during assembly to tone down the most ridiculous parts, like I did with Arkhan's cape.

>>51486320
>guys I am not shill, yet still AoS is good setting

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>>51486701
Please tell me I'm not the only one who sees the robot from Undertale in Ynnead.

>>51486005
The common theory and evidence points to Drazahr of the Dark Eldar being Ahra. Unless you have other evidence. Not to mention Ahra is an Eldar and looks like an Eldar. People in canon have seen Farsight out of his suit and we would know if he was not a Tau.

>>51484601
well, the model do really looks good, even if they aren't plastic
they could actually make them worse, just imagine monopose scorpion standing upright like guardians instead of sneaking

>>51486775
I was trying not to you sick fuck

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>>51486804
I just couldn't see anything else. I kept trying to see it from basically any other perspective, and all I'm getting is Nagash but FABULOUUUUUUUUUUUUS~

>>51486128
>final days of one millennium
O how shit man computers won't work in 2000, oh wait it was just some Australian train ticket machines

>>51486835
just paint it black and light turquoise

you know, ghostly and shit, like on the front cover

that's a good color scheme

instead of purple

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>>51486894
But then you'll lose that connection to Slaanesh.

>>51486901
can you fuck off back to /lgbt/ with this shit? It's not cute.

thanks.

>>51480872
Self-entitled pricks with ugly color scheme and boring gameplay.
>>51481810
Blood angels fucked White scars and disguised as another race. Not eldar at all.
>>51482753
Girls can't fight.
>>51484669
Back to /d/.
>>51486629
Literally whos.

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>>51486940
>robots
>lettuce gay bacon tomato
???

>>51486953
Altansar
the original red-and-black death-eldar who may or may not be corrupted by Chaos to some degree

>>51483599
Look, nothing's gonna be worse than 'Aelves'.
Getting that out of the way early makes everything else coming seem much better.

>>51487012
>nothing's gonna be worse than 'Aelves'.
HighBorne?

>>51486354
As lng as he keeps the gay ass mid air pose it will still look like shit.

When I paint mine I will convert him to stay on the ground or something.

>>51485716
Wait....
So, Chaos fans are afraid of an endless horde of unreasonable gibbering madmen?
Ironic.

>>51486140
Honestly, taken non-sarcastically, this is correct.
If you feel a company is no longer selling what you want to buy, you just leave.
This won't hurt them - they'll have their new demographic they're aiming for, and will sink or swim based on how that goes - but it'll definitely help you.

>>51487046
Okay, it's tacky, but it's not that-
Wait.
Is that literally how you spell it? Capitalized in the middle of one word?
HighBorne? Like it's a fucking energy drink or something?
Fuck, I may have to rethink my hierarchy of stupid.

>>51481856
> getting Stalin'graded is a 'good' move

They're going to have some real issues

>>51486940
There's nothing gay about a ghost, anon.

Let Ynnead gyrate for you...

>>51487054
Why the fuck would a god of death who ate 1.3 pantheons by himself walk?

>>51487272
It's got what Aelves Craeve!

>>51487272
>Like it's a fucking energy drink or something?
Nah it's like quel'dorei on english

>>51487287
Worked for the Soviets.

>>51487389
Maybe, but the Soviets weren't a dying race.

>...Shut up, /pol/, I wasn't talking to you.

So what are the odds that this leads up to the Emperor dying and saint Celestine ending up taking his place on the Astronomicon?

>>51487502

Celestine isn't a psyker.

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>>51480217
>pre-Fall eldar women were THICC as fuck

CANONIZE IT

Eldrad the absolute madman

>>51480217
I feel like her headdress would work better as shoulder decorations or maybe on her hips

>>51481769
>bunch of smaller Eldar ships melded together
That's the definition of a Space Hulk.

Will the Astartes triumvirate include a returned Primarch?

>>51485111
>Orks are about to crash down on whats left of Cadia and clog the Eye of Terror, cutting off Abaddon's supply lines
Which Waagh? Please tell me it's Gazzy.

>>51485838
Basically if they can't beat someone over the head for using the same name for something they change said name despite gw's work being extremely derivative they now want to be able to say "NAW NAW IT WAS ALL OUR ORIGINAL IDEAS" standby for orks getting a maximum copyright name soon

>>51480204
>>51480217
>>51480239
Now this is new fluff I can get behind

>>51487614
>orks getting a maximum copyright name soon

Gobrocks
Orklins
Orghs
Ourghoks
Ork'gh'rr
Nigh'or'kr

There, GW. Free of charge.

>>51487607
Yep, Perturabo, Lorgar and Alpharius

>>51487642
But Ork with a k is already a copyrightable name

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Here's a quick suggestion on how to improve Yvraine, and make her design a bit more cohesive and elegant

>>51481412
What am I looking at?

>>51487735

a 32 y-o neckbeard's pathetic attempt at being funny

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>>51480239
>this isn't necromancy in the traditional sense with zombies and skeletons

It IS necromancy in the traditional sense: communing with the dead and channeling their powers.

raising zombies and skeletons is NOT traditional necromancy

>>51480217
Remember when some Eldarfag fucks said that Ynnead doesn't need all Eldar die to awaken Ynnead thanks to Iyana ritual thingy? Turns out they were wrong Iyana was a mad lady trying to kill her craftworld. Her whole thing was pointless. Their claim that the Eldar needing to die was retconned is false. Fucking Eldarfags.

Eldrad's ritual in Death Masque and whatever the Ynnari are doing are bringing out Ynnead in way they envisioned would spare the Eldar from all dying. This is a new development.

tl;dr fuck Eldarfags

>>51487724

>moving the big stupid thing that was big and stupid but not blocking anything so that now it's big and stupid and actually blocking shit

You sure you don't work for GW?

>>51481412
>Banshees
>leaping into a maulerfiend

>>51488030
the feather don't need to be sticking out
it's just that they look better on the hips

>>51488048

It looks better and less busy not there at all. That's a perfect example of GW overdesign. They don't know when to stop, though its still not as bad as the shit on the new LoC.

>>51488061
no, the shit on the lord of change looks good, apart from the little arms on the wings, it's not "obstructive" and flows well with the rest of the model's curves, it doesn't look literally tacked-on.

Yvraine's bodice, on the other hand, literally looks crudely slapped-on, it doesn't fit her at all, it's too big and geometrical, and the headdress is also out of place.

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>>51488094

You honestly think that the only thing wrong with this model is are the little arms? Not the shitty flecks of snot plastered all over it or the fucking retarded tzeentch broaches in the wings, or the even jagged little dangly shits everywhere?

The bodice and shit on Yvraine is literally worn over a wychsuit. The sculptor even said that its supposed to look like it can be removed at a moment's notice. The model isn't perfect, but at least it doesn't look like someone sneezed on the the model before it was cast.

>>51488204
The "snot" looks perfectly appropriate; it looks almost blended in with the scales, has the same aesthetic as the rest of the model, it FITS.

Meanwhile Yvraine's bodice looks HUGE, and crudely made out of sticks, not elegant and form-fitting, not eldar-made. Not like a bodice.

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>>51488255

What the actual shit are you talking about? The snot looks like it was just stuck on there. It doesn't blend in with anything. It's literally just tacked onto the model.

>>51488204
I don't know how a model can be technically so perfect yet absolutely shit to look at.

>>51483798
>>51483709
This sounds nice.

>>51486395
Nagash left Nehekhara when he invaded the Empire to get his artifact back and then mortal Sigmar caved his skull in,

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>>51486354
>>51486426
I like this one better.

>>51486354
>Kind of like how Nagash looks pretty good
Yeah pretty good Kel'Thuzad

>>51488428

You can't even shave all the snot bits off because then you'd have this horrid gaps that need GSing

>>51488204
>The sculptor even said that its supposed to look like it can be removed at a moment's notice.
Thta's why her clothes doesn't looks like eldar, but looks like old WHFB VC design?

>>51488604
Literally who?

>>51488628
See
>>51480217

>>51484841
This is partly why the crusades aren't continuous - most of the best veterans are nigh immortal, but daemons and new recruits take time to come back - the former needs for the warp to wax powerful again (and not be embroiled in the Great Game), the latter needs to wait for marines to fall to chaos

>>51487724

desu that actually looks pretty nice

>>51488502
That looks pretty fuckin Nito

>>51480204
So the only Eldar Craftworld to have ever actually won any battles is now kaput?

Ha! The trailer for thing made it sound like Eldar were going to win something for a change, and instead turns out their just keeping their job as the biggest jobbers ever. What a tone deaf trailer GW put out.

>>51486701
Already 500% better.

>>51487287
>Thinking that this won't just let them kill twice as many nids in the same time.
>Thinking that craftworld jetbikes can't take on as many 'nids as they feel like.

>>51485334
But that's how DE resurrection works. You put the mangled corpse of the dead DE in a cage, then put it above a Haemonculus' torture chamber where they regenerate from the misery of the screaming souls. Vect and Haemonculi are just pissed that there is a new alternative to bowing to them.

>>51482127
>>51482127
To be fair, killing the head of the Incubi shrine to become the new boss is how their promotion cheme normally works. If you think you'd make a better boss than the old one, you challenge him to a duel to death. If you die, then clearly you weren't god enough. If you win, then you must be better fit for the job since otherwise he wouldn't have died.

>>51488502
Great conversion, but I feel the overly detailed pattern on the cloak takes away from the whole rather than add to it and I have no idea what the deal with the floating cough drops is.

That being said; totally stealing that harpy design.