Warhammer 40k General /40kg/

>>51467642
So, what's better, a Culexus, or SoS? If the latter, how many models/squads do you have to take? How are they outfitted?

>>51467671
Culexus easily

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A Deathwatch list I'm work shopping, it focuses wholly on an alpha strike with two drop pods with the third and the other two teams deep striking later. Opinions or advice ?

>>51467671
It depends on who you're facing but it the goal is to have anti-psyker, Culexus is the way. It's also more on touch with fluff because SoS are 30k

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>>51467642
>No Space Wolves allowed edition
>mfw
Fuck you I'll stay here and there's nothing you can do.

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What are you guys working on? Doing the finishing touches on my raider from the start collecting box, need to redo some highlights and then I'm gonna go built and paint my reavers.

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>>51467642
Daily remainder wulfen aren't furry according to the Internet

DERE ARE NO WOLFS ON BENIS :-DDDDD

>>51467714
Just finished up the last of my dudes for a Breacher team. Gonna have a game against a friend who just started Space wolves.

Also got a bunch of new bits in for my Chaos force, so I'm gonna end up working through some various units there.

>>51467714

THIN YOUR P...

Wait, that's actually great work anon!

>>51467699

>SoS are 30k

while that's true, I want to use them as a retinue for my Canoness fluffed as Celestians.

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Nids dude here. Last time I'm gonna post this list for a while.
C&C away

Hive Fleet Detachment

Hive Tyrant (1) - 230pts
1 Hive Tyrant: Wings,2 Twin-linked devourer with brainleech wormss

Hive Tyrant (1) - 230pts
1 Hive Tyrant: Wings,2 Twin-linked devourer with brainleech wormss

Tervigon (1) - 195pts
1 Tervigon: Scything talons,Stinger Salvo

Hive Guard Brood (3) - 165pts
3 Hive Guard: Impaler cannon

Zoanthrope Brood (1) - 50pts
1 Zoanthrope

Zoanthrope Brood (1) - 50pts
1 Zoanthrope

Termagant Brood (10) - 64pts
6 Termagant: Devourer
4 Termagant: Fleshborer

Termagant Brood (10) - 64pts
6 Termagant: Devourer
4 Termagant: Fleshborer

Termagant Brood (10) - 68pts
7 Termagant: Devourer
3 Termagant: Fleshborer

Termagant Brood (10) - 68pts
7 Termagant: Devourer
3 Termagant: Fleshborer

Termagant Brood (10) - 68pts
7 Termagant: Devourer
3 Termagant: Fleshborer

Termagant Brood (10) - 68pts
7 Termagant: Devourer
3 Termagant: Fleshborer

Mawloc (1) - 140pts
1 Mawloc

Living Artillery Node

Exocrine (1) - 170pts
1 Exocrine

Biovore Brood (3) - 120pts
3 Biovore

Tyranid Warrior Brood (3) - 100pts
1 Tyranid Warrior: Barbed strangler,Scything talons
2 Tyranid Warrior: Devourer,Scything talons

>>51467642
So, this is a bit out there, but does anyone here Own the FW Eldar Phoenix flyer and the Voidraven? I was wondering what the scale comparison between the two is like, and my Google-fu has failed me.

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Any anons have the mortarion mockup from a few threads ago? It was a small image.

>>51467714

I haven't done anything in over a month.

I just don't have the motivation.

>>51467745
You will lose her AoF tho

>>51467671
Culexus for the invisibility but you can get 10 sisters of silence for ten points more who will probably do more damage in assault than the assassin.

>>51467780

Oh no. I lose a single round of hatred in exchange for a bunch of I5 S4 AP2 attacks. What ever will I do?

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>>51467714
I finished the girls last night and gave them a coat of matte varnish this morning. Going to take a good break from painting for now.

>>51467868
>a bunch of I5 S4 AP2 attacks
If melee is what you're looking for you can field Death Cult Assassins with 3atk WS5 I6 S4 AP2 5++ for the same price as your SoS...

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>>51467444
Had to share my autism with someone.

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>>51467759
You know about neurothropes, right?

Who is the best person to write the next Nids codex and why is it Phil Kelly ?

>>51467975

They have a 5++ save verses a 3+ save and do nothing against psykers.

>>51467975
death cult assassins have power swords and are therefore ap3

>>51467975
AP3.

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>>51467714
almost at tabletop standard with my pre-heresy world eaters army. applying washes and thin coats of blue helps fight off the depression from playing with toys in my late 20s.

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>>51468012
I support this.

Who should write the next Orks codex?

>>51467728

2 is also furry
4 and 5 are just bestiality

>>51468004
Yeah. They aren't good enough in relation to their cost to make up for Zoeys getting nerfed, unless you're spamming Zoeys which is pretty dumb IMO, since Hive Guard are the better elite choice.
The only reason I'm running Zoeys at all is for a little extra Synapse and to draw some fire away from big bugs during the early game.

What's a decent Iron Hands list at 750pts against IG?

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>>51467728

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>>51467714
Finished my first model today.

I think I don't like the preheresy WB vet scheme as much as I'd like.

I need to learn how to take pictures with potato.

>>51468081
That helmet needs some highlights to show off the details and draw focus

>>51468039
Phil Kelly

>>51468039
Matt Ward

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Made a Corsairs list to use my DE as proxies vs my friend who will be using his custom SM supplement so we can get a first look at balancing it. Geared up my Corsairs to be mostly like DE with a few exceptions. I was considering taking combat drugs but I'll have to play with the list later. I took Titan Breakers because I assume he'll be running quite a few Vehicles. Any tips are appreciated.

I know, I know....
>Battlescribe
Picturebook listbuilder doesn't have Corsairs.

>>51468097
I tried to highlight with Eshin Grey, they kept disappearing after I kept trying to correct some mistakes. Will try second model with red helmet and green eyes.

Has anyone here used a full Assassinorum Execution Force?

How well did it go?

>>51468031
>>51468035

Oh yea, there's also that. I knew there was another reason.

>>51468081
>>51468135
Black armor in general is hard to pull off. I opted to go with Eshin grey over black for just a very dark grey for my force, but I wasn't going for a specific color as much as something suitably dark.

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>>51467714
Working on my DE too.

>>51468180
Love that colour scheme anon. Good brush skills too.

>>51468180
Pretty unique scheme for Dark Eldar. I like it a lot.

>>51467977

While it's the impressive sort of autism to notice that and identify it, I don't fault the artist for it because who the fuck cares? They're background noise. Some digital artists straight up line-trace without any modifications for the primary focus subject. At least this guy only did it for the background and actually tried to hide it with mirroring and adding details over the mouth of the WHFB face.

>>51467695
That's deathwatch 1500 points? Surely thats wrong. I'd expect more models

>>51468217
Such is life in the snowflake marines

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>>51468180
>That color scheme
Jesus, anon. You love living life on the edge. Looks good.
I stuck to the default scheme. Pic related is my latest Ravager.

>>51468036
KA? I didn't expect to see you on /40kg/.

>>51468180
I like everything about it a lot.
The highlight on the leather is a bit jarring for me though. it goes from a rich brown to an off-white without transition. You could always be planning to wash it down though, so what do I know.

>>51468217
>deathwatch
>expecting more models

>>51468217
He gave every single one a special or heavy weapon, and they're elite to begin with.

>>51468253
How well will my DEldar compete with them? Just a query

>>51468240
Yeah I may go back and adjust it. It was an experiment for speed painting. I wanted to see what just basecoat, wash, extreme highlight would end up like.

>>51468271
Deathwatch in general? Probably fine. Especially if you bring Disintegrators. Reavers should do well also. Deathwatch aren't especially strong as marines go.

>>51468180
That green really hurts my eyes, but that's mostly just because I'm not really fond of the colour in general.

Stunning work though, not a common scheme at all but you made it work really well.

Got any more pics of your army, or is that all you have so far? Would love to see how that scheme looks on other models.

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>>51468111
I still remember what happened to my fantasy orcs

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Whatre you guys workig on?

My warboss shelled out some teef to da snakebite boyz for a pair of ded killy squigs

If I'm using static artillery should I have it on a base? What size should it be? If I have stabilizers for them should I just put them down on the table and have the crew behind them with no base?

>>51468507
>should I have it on a base?
If it makes it easier for you to move around and set up yes.
>What size should it be?
Whatever's easiest.
>If I have stabilizers for them should I just put them down on the table and have the crew behind them with no base?
Put the crew on bases, and leave them removable either way.

>>51467695
Librarians and Dread are both pretty inefficient.

Frag launchers > melta and grav.

Infernus Bolters are fine but idk why you have that one dude with ONLY a flamer.

Why locator beacons on all the pods?

Aquila KTs are meh.

>>51468484
Why does GW insist on making half their animals stand on triangular rock piles?

>>51468546
The list is partially based on what I have so I'm limited to 4 of each heavy weapon.

The locators are for the two teams deep striking without pods.

>>51468553
Stability

I too have a DW force; given the recent ruling that they can't have Bolters and Shotguns at once, what would be preferable to give my CQC boys? Shotgun/ccw or Bolter/ccw?

>>51468653
>do I give them a gun that I can assault after firing or a gun I can't assault after firing?
Well gee anon I don't know

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>>51468376
Here's my Wych Squad. I haven't painted any vehicles yet.

>>51468039
Andy Chambers

Honestly nobody at GW loves orks any more, I feel like thats half the issue.

>>51468680
Gah. That foot is a mess. I need to fix that.

>>51468693
Did he happen to write the 7th ed DE codex? I'm almost done with Path of the Dark Eldar series, and it was spectacular.

Where are the leaks, guys? It has been too long.

>>51468680
You are a goddamn maverick.
They look great

>>51468755
Let's hope for leaks of new Chaos models

>>51468760
Thanks man. I appreciate the kind words.

>>51468233
Nicely done. I particularly like the subtle shading on the sail.

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>>51468766
>More Chaos models
>after 6 months of non-stop Chaos releases

>>51467728
I've always been fascinated with weebs making an arbitrary cutoff to include their monster girls and such that just happens to hang outside the boundary of "furry". Everyone I've ever met in life makes no such distinction.

Any animal attributes=furry

>>51468807
For a single subfaction. And none for the central focus of the new book series.

I will not rest as long as cultists are still snapfit.

>>51468755
We'll probably see some rules leaks for Fracture of Biel-tan show up next weekend.

>>51468484
What are you proxying them as?

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>>51468807
Enjoy the Nurgle

>>51468828

Even a normalfag isn't stupid enough to think fucking some dumb "sexy cat" halloween costume bitch is furry

So, quick question, /tg/. Can I take a Combined Arms Detachment of Skitarii, with Belisarius Cawl as my HQ choice?

>>51468693
Do you really want Chambers to write anything after the giant clusterfuck that was Dust: Warfare?

When putting together a picture battle report, what should you be taking pictures of?
Deployment + the end of each player turn? Each game turn?

>>51468625
They can't just give monstrous creatures flat feet on the bottom like tyranids or dinosaur toys?

>>51468996
Yup

>>51469032

One shot of both armies in parade formation

Deployment of both sides

Board positions at beginning of turn

Board positions at end of turn

Mix in any shots you find interesting, such as critical melee pile ins or a squad's last survivor fighting down multiple enemies, or a model lining up a crucial shot from between the crack of two buildings/transports/a balcony.

>>51469047
Thanks, I couldn't see why not, but it also felt wrong somehow. Now to figure out how to make this work best...

>>51469023
You didn't like Dust?

Anyway, he's gotten all his weirder ideas out and played around with them. They're out of his system.

>>51469059

It felt wrong because you are playing Skitarii and not Adeptus Mechanicus, but GW basically counts Skitarii as part of the Mechanicus which they technically are.

>>51469052
That would end up with a lot of pictures though, wouldn't it? Assuming you mean player turn, that's 24 photos minimum in a five-turn game. Sounds like it would be too much to post here.

>>51469059
>but it also felt wrong somehow
Only because GW made such a mess of Ad Mech in the first place by splitting them.

>>51469072
Not if anon made collages, or condensed it.

>>51469060
Dust was fine if you were willing to play only Allies against Allies or Axis against Axis. Drop Fireball meant that Axis couldn't beat Allies ever. Not to mention all the fucking tokens all over the place, and the way setup took an extra 10 minutes because of all his weird shit.

>>51469072

Comprehensive battle reports ARE too long to post on 4chan.

>>51469083
Do you have any examples? Unless I made some monster of an image, it would still need to be several posts.

Have any of you played using Tabletop Stimulator? My buddy wants to play long distance, but after downloading an army and just looking at it, it looks like a real pain in the ass to set up and actual match.

>>51469072

Bare minimum you'd need at least one photo per game turn. There's no point in taking a photo if no action has occurred so you really only need the photos of the end of each game turn plus the beginning of the game.

>>51469103
>trying to condense 2+ hours of game time into less than several posts

What exactly did you have in mind? You technically could post a short text battle report but its impossible to visualize positioning without photos since there isn't something like chess coordinates.

>>51469023
He genuinely loves orks has lots of experience and his crunch is decent.

>>51469143
> Chambers crunch
> Decent
What games have you been looking at that make you say that?

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>>51468985
If it's a costume sure. Monster misume and the like get lumped in though. Furry as a term means a fan of anthropomorphic media. Full stop. Any more specifics are an addition by groups to exclude their own interests from the term or to encompass only certain things.

Just like /mlp/ calling themselves horsefuckers and not bronies because they are "self aware". Doesn't matter. They fall under the umbrella term.

Protip: normies just think furries are just weird. They don't hold the frothing rage that 4chan has for them.

>>51468730
>Wrote the best nid and ork dexs and the second best too.

I wouldnt complain.

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>>51469107
I use it almost daily.
There's a learning curve, but once you get used to the controls and how to do certain things, it because way, way, WAY faster and more efficient than playing physical. Matches against people who know what they're doing take literally a quarter of the time. Being able to move groups of models, instantly roll, have stats and rules readily available and searchable, a built-in ruler for distances, and more removes all the slog of tabletop gaming and just leaves the gameplay.

>>51469155
see
>>51469172

>>51469185
>>51469155

Also co-wrote the best chaos dex.

Sure maybe Dust sucks but chambers can pen a warhammer codex.

>>51469181
Got any pointers? Anything I should download in the workshop ahead of time?
We are both new to it so we are trying to figure it out before we actually get a match going

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>>51468828
It really comes down to animal snouts vs. human faces more than anything.

>>51469078
>>51469065
Taken as a direct response to Khorne and Space Wolf dogstars ruling our 1000 point tournaments:

+ Combined Arms Detachment 998/1000 +

HQ: 200

Belisarius Cawl: 200

Troops: 405

10 Rangers: 180
- 3 Arc Rifles
- Sacrifactum Autorepulsor

10 Vanguard: 225
- 3 Plasma Calivers
- Conversion Field
- Saint Curia's Autopurger

Elites: 215

5 Sicarian Infiltrators: 215
- Flechette Blaster and Taser Goad
- Conversion Field
- Omniscient Mask

Heavy Support: 115

1 Onager Dunecrawler: 115
- Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber

Inquisitorial Detachment: 63

1 Ordo Xenos Inquisitor: 63
- Psykotroke Grenades
- Rad Grenades
- Digital Weapons

>>51469202
>>51469185
>>51469172
How many years ago? Besides, even in their times, the books were considered monobuild. You had a lot of fluffy options, but so, so many of them were complete and utter horseshit that you'd never actually take. 40k has enough of that right now.

>>51469203
Find the reddit/discord/steam group for it and ask for a link to a resource pack. A lot of stuff is missing from the workshop for various reasons.

For TTS, make sure everything's set to auto-raise, lock units whenever possible, utilize copy+paste, don't drag groups too quickly since they'll clump like die, and hold right-click when moving units to have them snap to the ground when you're dealing with multi-level terrain.

And for convenience, make sure you edit the unit's notes so it has all the relevant rules available when you hover over it.

>>51469204
I will agree with you for 4chan and Internet communities that have an animal base. For most average Joes irl it's all the same: animal people. The nuance of the sliding scale are only important to those who want to distance themselves and say "not me".

>>51469215
The 3rd ed nid, ork, and chaos were not mono build, are you just throwing words out now?

>>51467714
Im having trouble deciding what to paint currently. Got 2 devestator squads, a 10 man assault squad, 2 stormhawks, and a unit of centurions to do, but cant decide.

>>51469234
*anime base

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R8

I'm kinda trying to go for a Fall of Cadia themed list, since I already had IF and some Skitarii.

>>51469203
Play a game of kill team first. Lot quicker to learn the controls and such while only worrying about a hand full of models.
P changes the camera between third person, first person, and over head. The first person camera is great for getting inside buildings and checking LOS.

>>51469242
You saw 3e lists that weren't Iron Warrior Artillery Spam? It may have been my area, but that was literally it. We didn't have any Ork or Nid players at the time (maybe - they may have just not wanted to play with the person I was then) so I can't speak for those.

I have old boxes of space marines with the smaller bases but I read new space marines have bigger bases. If I start playing the game with the smaller bases and give all my marines I buy these small bases to match are people going to give me shit over this?

>>51469276

No Space Marine player changed their bases just because GW changed them. I don't think you'd get any grief over it, at least not from reasonable people.

>>51469242

>3rd ed Orks
>Not monobuild

3rd Ed Orks were Speed Freaks or go home.

>3rd ed Chaos

CODEX IRON WARRIORS

>>51469253
Can't take two heavies per ten in tac squads.

And you shouldn't take any heavies in them anyways cause they suck.

>>51469215
>even in their times, the books were considered monobuild
>third ed tyranids
>fourth ed tyranids
>monobuild
in before nidzilla waac lists

>>51469303

Shit, you're right. Forgot to change the rest of them to Plasma Guns.

Heavy Bolter in the Sternhammer thingie works well, it rerolls all misses. All bolters do, actually.

>>51469321
May as well take them in a dev squad, though. Get Tank Hunters that way, maybe hurt some light vehicles.

>>51469316
>in before nidzilla waac lists
In during that's the only thing anyone played anyway.

>>51469289
>>51469266

>Confusing having a best build with being mono build.

>Also singleing out the codex he co-wrote with 4 other people as proof of anything.

Also Chambers never stopped playing 40k he even still plays orks.

All your points are pretty meh and amount to you being mad because of dust and bias because of it.

>3rd Ed Orks were Speed Freaks or go home.

Looted vehicle spam as well as shooty and melee green tides would like to have a word with you anon...

>>51469164

A human with cat ears isn't an anthromorphized cat, it's a fucking human with cat ears.

>>51469345

Hmmm... You might have a point.

Though I expect to encounter infantry-heavy lists because every player in my FLGS plays either horde nids or conscriptspam guard

I have literally never once seen a single army list made with that shitty picture builder that was both a) legal and b) competitive.

Guess that kind of proves how stupid you have to be to use it. Go ahead, dig through the archives and see if you can find even a single one that fits those two criteria. That is if you even know how to access offsite archives.

>>51469389
>implying every list is made to be competitive

>>51469389

It's decent if you have your Codex at hand to keep rules and the like at hand.

>implying every list has to be competitive

I want WAACfags to leave.

>>51469286
alright, I was more thinking about newer models though. for example let's say a new marine unit comes out that is still basically just an MEQ that would have had the old base in the past, will people have a problem if I give it the old bases? mainly I want to do this because 1) for uniformity and 2) because the new bases are more awkward in most infantry sized foam inserts for the carrying cases, it's already hard enough to get the dudes in there without having the bases even bigger

>>51469438

Like I told you, no one but uptight idiots is gonna care. The difference in size isn't even a half inch. Just roll with it, explain yourself if you absolutely need to.

As a Salamander player I have access to a bunch of templates (that ignore cover) and Melta (that deal with any matter of vehicle) but what other benefits should I place against a Tau opponent.

Stealth Suits, Riptides, Broadsides the whole deal how can I better combat besides the GET UP IN THERE

>>51469438
The rules for base size are fuzzy. They say the the game assumes you use the bases the model is provided with but also say your allowed to use a custom base of "appropriate" size. I don't think anyone with have an issue for bases on either 25mm or 32mm. FWIW bases are pretty damned cheap and I think marines look a lot better on 32mm.

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>>51469389
?

>>51469389
I have seen people post top netlists in that format, checkmate

seriously though I don't really get those listbuilders either. I'm not going to get rude about it but those things seem like more of an inconvenience than just opening Word and typing your list in like 30 seconds. if you don't know your codex well enough to do that then . . . perhaps you should, and being insulated from learning the rules by using listbuilder software is a bad thing?

>>51469454

Heavy bolters (in my experience as a IF player) work well against most Tau battlesuits.

Predators with autocannons. Terminators with Assault Cannons. Just fling enough dakka in their general direction and the low T of most of their units will sting. For the rest, Melta, Las and Grav works wonders. Especially Grav.

so i finally got to run cawl in a few games and he is a monster as far as soaking up shooting attacks goes.

>>51469454
I hate to say it, but grav. Space marines are sorta shit without it, and certainly not on Tau level without it and free transports. They have enough shooting to kill you before you can get into combat with them, enough Interceptor to shoot down anything that tries to drop pod, and enough Toughness that anything other than melta - which suffers from range, and gets shot off the table before it can shoot - and grav can reasonably engage them. Take transports, drive up in them, use them for LoS blocking cover when they get wrecked, and jump up on top of them to open fire with grav on your next turn.

>>51469481
>the low T of most of their units

Except that he's dealing with Riptides and Broadsides...

>>51469474
>if you don't know your codex well enough to do that then . . . perhaps you should, and being insulated from learning the rules by using listbuilder software is a bad thing?
There's literally no reason to memorize the exact point cost of every single unit and wargear in your codex.

>>51469508
Fun fact. Broadsides are still only toughness 4.

At my local store, 40K is the only game where people get made fun of for constantly running WAAC lists.

And I love it.

>>51469518
Not what I'd call "Low", especially with a 2+ armour save behind it. Average, sure.

>>51469496
>enough Interceptor to shoot down anything that tries to drop pod

This any marker drone nets are what annoy me about Tau. They decided that they needed to patch every weakness Tau might potentially have as an all shooting race.

>>51469508

There is not a Tau list on God's green earth that does not have a majority of T4 or lower models.

Other than bullshit WAAC lists that no one would play out of the sheer shame of being such a tremendous flaming homosexual.

>>51469524

>can reliably bring it down with bolters
>not low T

Are you for real or do you just have insane luck on to-wound rolls?

>>51469532
>Other than bullshit WAAC lists that no one would play out of the sheer shame of being such a tremendous flaming homosexual.
It must be nice to live in whatever meta you're in. Around here Monstrous Suit Spam rules anything on a 6x4, while Khorne Daemonkin and Space Wolves fight it out with wolfstars for the 4x4 spot.

>>51468271
Brought some ravagers and blasterborn against some Deathwatch once. Filthy Mon'keigh crumbled like a slave's heart in an Archon's fist.

>>51469550

RIP

At that point I'd recommend moving somewhere else m8.

>>51469375
Take flamers too, then. Heavy Flamers if your friends are reasonable people.

And you need something to fortify!

>>51469509
I didn't say you should, but it's definitely a good idea to have at least a ballpark idea of how much the units costs and their profiles. I could write a list in a minute then check the costs and make a few adjustments to get the last few points right.

After a few years now though I really can remember about 70% of my codex's exact unit and upgrade points, which is good because it means, you know, I actually read the rules and know how the game works.

>>51469563

>I don't have enough money for any of the forts GW sells, nor any artistic talent whatsoever to scratchbuild my own

;_;

A-aegis defense lines aren't that shit, r-right?

>>51469509
If you aren't that familiar with your codex, then there's no reason to not be sitting with it open as you're making the list anyway. That helps you catch mistakes since you're reading from the entry, and eliminates the need for some software that tells you how much everything costs.

>take Chaos Lord with talisman of burning blood on daemonic steed
>attach to max size squad with bikes/jump packs
>pre-game advance 2d6"
>move 15"
>charge 2d6+3"

Does this meme strategy make World Eaters playable?

>>51469580
Just buy yourself some GW city-terrain, you can add those to your armies too and they are a) cheaper b) better than ADL

>>51469599
It does make them better and it makes KDK houndstar legit scary fast.

>>51469599
It's fairly nice. If you can get the right amount of killing power when you're there, it helps a lot. You can also benefit from the pre-game advance on other melee units, as it's basically Scout without being Scout.

>>51469580
Surely you can get the $30 together for an Imperial Bunker. Trust me, it's one of the best anti-tau pieces out there - 55 points for a land raider you can shoot out of.

>>51469599
Depends on the board size. On a 4x4, absolutely - though I might look into going Daemonkin for Khorne Dogs instead of the bikes/raptors. On a 6x4, depends on how much blocking terrain you have, but generally yes.

just bought dark vengeance for super cheap

0-4: world eaters
5-9: death guard

>>51469607
> Adding city terrain to your armies
I think I missed something. I know they have rules in the BRB, but points costs, and the ability to be in a Fortification slot?

>>51469607

I was blown away when I found out I could add any of them to my army for 20 points. It's a transport option for Lootas that gives them more LoS and more protection.

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>>51469630

>>51469607
>>51469632
>>51469649
Wait, you can just buy city terrain as a fortification? Like, the generic ruined buildings?

Can you get upgrades for it to or anything? Where are the rules for this?

>>51469632
>>51469677
New Planetary Onslaught. Cant add any (meaningful) upgrades but they are 4+ ruins, they are pretty big, they fill your usually totally useless Fort-slot and they only cost 20pts. Total nobrainer choices.

>>51469623

It does sound reasonable. I'll look into it since IF does benefit from fortifications quite a lot.

>>51469589
The software's correct, though.
And unlike the codex, the software actually references rules in a convenient and findable fashion. Having to search for six different pages just so I know what the wargear, weapons, and abilities actually do is one of the most obtuse ways to learn. And it gets even worse when you have to do this across multiple codexes, supplements, and forge world books.

I mean, look at pic related. In order for me to reference all of this shit on a single Crisis Bodyguard, I'd need to reference seven pages in the Tau Codex, a page in Imperial Armor, two pages in Mont'ka, and three pages in the BRB. Or I could pop it into battlescribe and boom, no searching needed. All stats and definitions are there.

>>51469695

combo it with a techmarine and camo cloak scouts for guaranteed armywide 2+ cover

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>>51469707
Look at me, I forgot the image like a retard

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>>51469677

They even come with rules.

>>51468047
Good thing wulfen are on the first level

>>51469715
This. And they are one of the best "Forts" to get guarenteed LoS-block for your army. Your indirect artillery will thank you.

>>51469724

Not him but tfw battlescribe won't load for me since the edition update thing. Constant crashes. ffffffffff

>painting 9 guardsmen with camoflaged fatigues assembly-line type
I'm starting to regret my life decisions

>>51469164
This>>51469373, wulfen are not even on the second level since the only true "wolf" thing they have are the legs, they're astartes with wolf legs, the faces just make them look like Neanderthals with fangs and elf ears.

>>51469350
Maybe in tourneys, but that's more of a comment on how versatile the unit and model kit were.

Even then, the carnifexes fielded varied in loadout.

>>51469181
this

How do Dark Eldar avoid having their souls and minds reaved by the Warp or daemons whenever they're in proximity to either? Especially Slaaneshi ones?

Do they have any anti-warp tech? Anti-daemon? Any protective wards or shields?

Or do they just run around free-ballin' and yolo it every day?

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>>51469812
They aren't even cover in fur

>>51469252
That is a big spelling mistake

running an optimized sealth cadre and the one that gives you tank hunter with 2 broadsides and a riptide would be a fair think in a 1250 point game?

>>51469834
There's a wolfen in the pic with two lightning claws and a backpack mounted bolter? Why don't terminators have access to this technology?

>>51469758

>Emperor's Wrath Artillery Company

>6 basilisks, 1 manticore, 1 command chimera
>buy fortification and hide behind it
>guaranteed line of sight blocking
>take vets with radios to spot for your artillery to give it all twin-linked
>command chimera gives basilisks Ignores Cover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1uGm_dIqBI

Looking to add some Guard into my Imperial Fists for artillery. Wyverns are obviously great, but should I go with 3 wyverns or 2 wyverns and 1 other for the Artillery Company? Also: Deathstrike or Manticore, and why? I've got Vindicators for pushing forward and Marines in Rhinos for AV saturation, plus Lysander and a Termie squad in a Land Raider because fuck you.

>>51469707
>>51469724
But that Bodyguard is illegal, so...

>a page in Imperial Armor
???

>>51469855

it's a backpack mounted shrapnel launcher

>>51469834
>abominations like that are allowed in the Marines
>not put down immediately

>>51469855
Literally brand new, developed to give ranged support to the wulfen.

what's the funnest or most interesting shenanigans to do with cawl or celestine's relics?

>>51469749
Neat stuff

>Can buy tree terrain for 10 pts

I don't know why you would because it's basically rubble, but you can.

This is neat stuff though. I was looking for a good fort to use for my marine force as well.

>>51469866
What's illegal about it? Other than missing Bonding Knife, which Battlescribe is notifying me about.
Please don't pull the "signature systems are relics" argument.

>???
XV81

Are there any plans for a PDF of the Fall of Cadia book? Not seeing it in the mega links, nor on google or wherever.

>>51469887

>buy tree terrain
>put dudes in it
>dudes get cover save

why not?

>>51469873
Unlike the failing aspirants to other chapters, wulfen are capable of reasoning and some of them can even revert back to normal marines, so no big deal.

>>51469898
Because odds are you could just put the tree terrain on the table and have it be 5+ cover without paying the 10 points or using the slot.

At least the buildings have a couple special rules in addition to being LoS blocking ruins.

>>51469749
Where can you find the rules for all the fortifications in the game? I've recently learned that there's an absurd amount.

>>51469873
It's Space Wolves, man. Just shake your head and try to forget about it. As much as people bitch about Deathwatch being Special Snowflake marines, Wolves get to be the specialist of special.
>>51469883
New Init-or-wound relic + Vanguard + Xenos Inquisitor with Rad Grenades. It does more wounds than the Skitarii Codex relic, and your Alpha can't be killed before you use it.
>>51469894
>Please don't pull the "signature systems are relics" argument.
How are they not?
>>51469887
>I was looking for a good fort to use for my marine force as well.
I will sing the praises of the Imperial Bunker every chance I get. AV 14 rather than a 4+ Cover save for your guys, for 55 points. You can even get 4+ cover by standing on it, like you can ruins.
>>51469911
You can't guarantee it being where you want it to be.

>>51468680
Love it.

>>51469897

It's in the MEGA, I just got it.

Under Dataslates and Supplements, in Gathering Storm

>>51469913
Stronghold Assault from 6e, and Planetary Assault from 7e.

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>>51467728
>according to the Internet

>>51469894
>Please don't pull the "signature systems are relics" argument.
Almost but not quite. I was thinking of the 6th edition codex which said Bodyguards could take 3 items from ranged weapons, support systems and relics, but I checked 7th just to be sure and that wording is gone now. So, never mind.

>but you should always double check the codex for precisely this reason when building your list, if not playing the game

>>51468081

you just need highlights on the black and red and the model will really start to come out

>>51467909

Nice paint job. It's a shame that the models are fat-looking.

>>51469939
Someone give this man an award for figuring out what the fuck is up and telling it like it motherfucking is.

>>51469959

don't you mean the models are T H I C C ?

>>51469926
thanks, I didn't see it there.

>>51469967

>thicc

This ebonic meme needs to die.

>>51469919
>You can't guarantee it being where you want it to be.

Yeah, but there's probably going to be some 5+ terrain or better somewhere near enough to where you want the dudes to stand. Either way, it definitely isn't worth it compared to just buying the ruins.

That aside, I'm mostly debating between the Shrine of the Aquila or the Imperial Bunker. The bunker seems quite nice for being able to get some add-ons for it.

>>51469959
They're nowhere near nurgle

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>>51469953
>>51469894
>>51469724
>>51469707
sure is nice to know Sisters get specials and heavies for free!

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>>51467714
Imperial Guarding, I painted 9 guys like this and started working on my first Leman Russ AND a valkyrie.
Only 25-ish infantry to go until I buy more

>>51469976
>The bunker seems quite nice for being able to get some add-ons for it.
It gives anti-flyer to armies that don't get it, or that don't get it easily. Also, a Void Shield is a fun toy - 25 points to give your bunker an AV12, regenerating HP.

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>>51469993
I was advocating your point nigger, but since you quoted me, I'm just going to put it out there for the record that you're being a cunt about it. You're not wrong per se, but you are a cunt.

Why is there so much hate for then Tau when clearly all of the hate should be directed to anyone playing as the space wolves

>>51470020
Because Tau are stronger at the board size most people play at - 6 foot by 4 foot - while space wolves only shine on a 4 foot by 4 foot board.

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Re-posting my list looking for some feedback. Contemplating running a Culexus Assassin.

>>51470007
I kind of like the idea of an escape hatch for the extra mobility, since I don't have as many transports as I'd want for all my units.

>>51470020
Space Wolves are VIKINGS IN SPAAAAAAACE
That affords them some leniency
Tau are ANIME IN SPAAAAAAAAAACE
That affords them some extra hate

>>51470040
You realize you can't start the skitarii in the transports, right? Just making sure.
>>51470045
Eh, it depends on what you'd be putting in it. Close-range shooting like Salamanders have, I could see it. Just remember that unlike a normal building exit, you can't assault out of it - I fucked that up more than once.

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>>51467714
Stealing your paintjob aparantly

Guess ill have to do some freehand to make mine different

>>51470040
WarConvo really doesn't lend itself well to this list builder. What's the point in writing it out of the meat and potatoes of your list, the wargear, cannot be shown? Just add it in anyway and point out how many points it actually is base and how nay you have left to spend or some shit.

>>51470063
Yeah I know I figured I would get asked that again i should have put a disclaimer. The idea is to embark the first turn.

>>51470020
Because Tau are both very strong, and very unfun to play against from a simple stylistic standpoint.

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>>51468866
>Proxy

>>51470087
Ill write it up on Battlescribe. I'm not sure how I want to outfit the Kataphron Breachers actually.

>>51470063
Yeah, I wasn't planning on assaulting out of it, more just helping a couple squads get across the board quicker without needing the extra rhinos or drop pods.

>>51470104
>I'm not sure how I want to outfit the Kataphron Breachers actually.
3 Hydraulic Claws, 2 Heavy Arc Rifles, 1 Torsion Cannon is how I do it.

>>51470046
furry aspect of the space wolves outweighs the viking aspect thouh

>>51469389
>I play 40k so I have to hate everything

>>51470116
On both units?

>>51470090
I can see that but the Tau are quite a bit of fun to play... at least how I play them at least

>>51469939

But the foxgirl isn't actually furry. She has no fur on her body.

>>51470134
>I browse 4chan so I have to hate everything
>>51470123
I dunno, I haven't seen any wolves with boobs in any official material

>>51470142
Paired with a unit of grav destroyers, traditionally. If you're giong to have 2 units of breachers instead of finding the points elsewhere to make one squad Destroyers, then yes.

>>51470148
He said they weren't fun to play AGAINST, not that they weren't fun to play.

How could I best organize this collection into a legal force? What could I add to make it effective?

>Terminator Chaplain
>Power Armored Chaplain
>Power Armored Chaplain with power fist
>DV Dark Angels Tactical squad (plasma cannon, plasma gun, plasma pistol
>a bunch of metal and a few plastic scouts
>Inquisitor with power weapon/force weapon
>5 deathwatch vets with dark angels bits
>a metal priest with a plasma gun
>11 metal stormtroopers (flamer, grenade launcher, power weapon)
>a tech priest
>a primaris psyker
>two land raiders
>one rhino, maybe a couple more if I try to strip and salvage some old rhinos

my thoughts: get some scions and a bunch more transports and make an imperial soup army with DA CAD, a MT formation, and various offerings from the Imperial Agents.

no idea how I am going to field THREE chaplains though, unless maybe I field it as deathwatch

>>51470134

Pretty much.

>>51470151
>she has no fur on her body
>aside from the animal ears and tail that are a part of her physical anatomy
Don't even lie, they aren't fakes in the Chinese cartoons

>>51469707
>The software's correct, though.

No it's not you dipshit. Why the fuck do you retards keep repeating this when every day people are pointing out illegal lists?

>>51470167
also even regular non-furry women are still pretty hairy if they don't shave

>>51470167

So when you say you "that bitch has a fine body", you're really referring to her ears?

>>51468036
>helps fight off the depression from playing with toys in my late 20s

I sincerely doubt this is the source of your depression.

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>>51470185

Are you not?

>>51470148
Yeah that's the rub. I'm not saying you're a bad person for playing Tau. I'm just trying to be honest.

>>51470095
Dude those rules are so massively outdated. The big squiggoth and the gargantuan are the only ones that should be realistically allowed at this point.

Why wouldn't you go 9" anyway for +2T,+2W,+1A, +1S for 20 points?

>>51467695
What's the point of the bikes?

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Preparing for some hearty Gathering Storm campaigning with Creed and Kell ----

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Infantry lists make me moist

Has any of you tried Custodes in a game before?
Are they overpriced (260p is steep Price) ot totally wort it?

>>51470216
Why the gak are you mixing a heavy bolter with plasma guns?

Dude don't mix weapons. Don't do it

>>51470216
Drop the special weapons from the infantry squads, swap the Valk for a Vendetta.

>>51470223
They're better assault terminators. That's about it.

They are ALL characters though, so if you're so inclined you could play them alongside Cawl, Celestine or both and kit them out with the new relics.

>>51470229
Because combat squads?
And I'm gonna use the Burning of Prospero models, which come with those weapons.
Alternatively I could make a devastator squad with 3 Heavy Bolters if I wanted, I guess.
I'm gay and don't want to mix 40k weapons with 30k models.
>>51470232
Alright. Did I miss something or is the Vendetta only available from Forge World though?

>>51470229
yeah, aren't the sponsons snap firing after the main cannons do their thing? seems like inefficient points to me

>>51470248
No they don't, that's only with ordnance weapons and the Executioner Plasma cannon is a heavy as far as I remember.

>>51470245
You can only get the conversion kit from forge world for some reason, but you can just use extra lascannons to kitbash some. The conversion kit is literally just three twin lascannons and a different nose piece.

>>51470216
Either load up on those executioners with sponson plamacannons or don't bother.

I think that the 600 points of SM you brought could be better used in more tanks or infantry rather than bad fire platforms without vehicles or drop pods.

>>51470040
Onager Dunecrawler [Cognis heavy stubber, Cognis manipulator, Mindscanner probe, Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber, Smoke launchers]
Onager Dunecrawler [Cognis heavy stubber, Cognis manipulator, Mindscanner probe, Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber, Smoke launchers]
Sicarian Infiltrators [Flechette Blasters and Taser Goads, 4x Sicarian Infiltrator]
Infiltrator Princeps [Conversion Field, Digital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Phosphoenix]
Sicarian Ruststalkers [Sicarian Battle Armour, 4x Sicarian Ruststalker, Transonic razor, Chordclaw, and Mindscrambler Grenades]
Ruststalker Princeps [Conversion Field, Digital weapons, Prehensile Dataspike, The Omniscient Mask]
Skitarii Rangers [Galvanic Rifle, Omnispex, 4x Skitarii Ranger, 2x Transuranic arquebus]
Ranger Alpha [Arkhan's Divinator, Conversion Field, Digital weapons, Galvanic rifle, Taser goad]
Skitarii Vanguards [Omnispex, 3x Plasma Caliver, Radium carbine, 9x Skitarii Vanguard]
Vanguard Alpha [Conversion Field, Digital weapons, Pater Radium, Radium carbine, Skitarii war plate, Taser goad]
Sydonian Dragoon [Phosphor serpenta, Taser lance]

Tech-Priest Dominus [Autocaduceus of Arkhan Land, Conversion field, Digital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Macrostubber, Scryerskull, Volkite blaster, Warlord]
Kataphron Breacher [Hydraulic claw, Torsion cannon]
Kataphron Breacher [Heavy arc rifle, Hydraulic claw]
Kataphron Breacher [Heavy arc rifle, Hydraulic claw]
Kataphron Breacher [Hydraulic claw, Torsion cannon]
Kataphron Breacher [Heavy arc rifle, Hydraulic claw]
Kataphron Breacher [Heavy arc rifle, Hydraulic claw]

Sanguinary Priest [Blood Chalice, 2x Hand Flamer]
Tactical Squad [Heavy flamer, 6x Tactical Marine]
Drop Pod
Tactical Sergeant [2x Hand Flamer]
Rhino
Rhino

Knight Paladin [Meltagun, Rapid-Fire Battle Cannon w/ Heavy Stubber, Reaper Chainsword, Twin Icarus Autocannon]

>>51470223
ally them with grey knights, stick a techmarine with harness in the squad. take 3 shields 2 spears.

deepstrike unit (doable since they have the same deployment rules) or stick them in a transport together on turn one.

once near target, use hammerhand and enjoy your 5 init 5 S8 AP2 attacks, then 4 more at init 4.

pretty much anything short of a heavy duty psy-buffed deathstar just evaporates.

>>51470255

You're right, the Executioner Plasma Cannon is Heavy 3. It also has Gets Hot!, so consider how much the Emperor smiles on your Gets Hot! rolls before adding more plasma to one.

>>51470255
aah, gotcha. yeah, lists them as Heavy 3. Could have sworn they were ordinance.

>>51470267
I only have a baneblade and knight crusader I haven't included in this list, along with an army full of other marines. Eventually I'll buy more leman russes.
>>51470281
>not wrecking your Leman Russ on shooting phase 1 due to gets hot

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Thoughts? I'm considering swapping one of the Neutron Lasers into the Heavy Phosphor squad but one guy I play against regularly brings a Stormsurge and I like being able to put out S10 shots from long range while having a 4++

>>51470162
Look for a melee oriented squad and buy it. You have a metric fuckton of melee buffs among your options - A priest, a chaplain, a land raider, and even an inquisitor if you want some of the more fun grenades. You don't have any force to multiply. Use the Scouts to hold backfield objectives while they move up.

Once you have that, the deathwatch go in an Allied Detachment with a Chaplain, and get the other Land Raider. Not because they want to be in it, but because you don't have any drop pods, and an Objective Secured Land Raider is sorta rude.

Take the ten tacticals and the rhino, sit five of them in the back with the scouts to lob Plasma Cannon shots downfield, and put the other five pushing forward to support their big daddy land raiders.

That's a really awkward soup of models, but I think that's the best you're gonna get out of it.

>>51470276
> Arkhan's Divinator on the Ranger Alpha
Do you use Mysterious Objectives much? Even so, how mobile do you think the Rangers are going to be?
> Transuranic Arquebus
Never. One shot Sniper weapons are bad. I'd recommend the arc rifles, but keeping to galvanics has its use too.
> Omniscient Mask on Ruststalkers
Works better on the Infiltrators, because you get more attacks to hit them with due to the tasers.
> Phosphoenix
I appreciate how cool the gun is, but no. Mask on the Infiltrators, Phase Taser on the Ruststalkers.
> 7 tacticals in that squad
But why? Especially when you can drop one out and upgrade to Destroyers?
> Volkite Blaster
Awkwardly, the burst pistol is the better weapon.

>>51470336
sounds pretty reasonable

my deathwatch are kitted for melee, as are most of the scouts.

I think if I dig through my old models and apply some super clean I might be able to get an assault squad or even vanguard vets together.

>>51470370
No i suppose i wont be mobile enough to use the divinator effectively. What relic do you use on your Ranger?

>>51470410
If I have enough points for Cawl, I give them the -2 inches to enemy charge relic. If I don't, i give them the one that pulses out a haywire hit, because lategame I can hit things 5d6 inches away and finish off particularly stubborn vehicles, or discourage rogue Walkers from getting sassy.

>>51470370
The tactical squad are a tax for the flesh tearers detachment. The idea was to make the War Convocation more mobile hence the Rhinos.

>>51470467
I understand that, but why have eight models in it instead of the minimum five? Unless you're going for a Khornate thematic thing, at which point why the fuck are they in a War Convocation?

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>>51468102
No, that's how we got this shitpile to start with.

>>51469023
He wrote the last good Ork Codex.

>>51470503
And nothing worth a damn in the decades since.

>>51470473
Im still playing around with the list I havent actually bought any blood angels stuff yet. I appreciate the feedback.

Okay so in 30k, did the imperium just abhor all psykers or why were they so hard on Thousand Sons?

>>51468012
Andy Chambers. I don't care if he works for GW anymore or not.

>>51470209
F

>>51469715
>>51469758

A Techmarine can't fortify something that you bought as part of your army.

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>>51467714
Looks good, I'd maybe consider painting a colour around the rim of the bases, the black looks a bit flat. Even if was just a grey to match the rest of the base.

I'm very slowly finishing off my gargoyles, they need plenty of cleaning up highlighting and detailing.

>>51470563
Althought not suggested by me, thats a good point. But 20pts ruins are still extremely good investments.

>>51470539
The Imperium as a whole didn't acknowledge that Psykers existed. This was by design of the Emperor, because the more people knew about them, the more Chaos had to work with for seducing people to its side. The Thousand Sons threatened this information blackout, and also the Emperor knew that half his Marines were prophecised to fall to Chaos, so he tried to keep the Thousand Sons from doing the psychic thing and make them into Just Another Legion.

>>51470585
Black rimmed bases are the best you plebeian

When was the last time squigs had rules in 40k?

>>51470539
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Council_of_Nikaea&redirect=no

>>51470594
And then they found tzeentch and got horribly mutated and Ahriman did something to change everyone into dust and then painted everyone's armor blue by hand?

>>51467977
that is some real advance level autism

what book is that formation for the chaos drop pod and the berserkers? fist of pain or something like that?

>>51467699
>SoS are 30k
They used to be, no longer

>>51470610
Tzeentch offered Ahriman the ability to save his legion, and he took it - I can hardly blame him for that. The Rubric saved the sorcerers of the legion, but not much else - but hey, it still counts for something. I'm still not sure why they painted the armour blue, except for to distance themselves from the fools they were in the past - Of all the Legions, I think you can blame the Sons least for still hating the Emperor.

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>>51470385
>>51470336
>>51470162
>added: another acolyte, another inquisitor, 4 arco-flagellants
>counts-as: metal stormtroopers as bolter acolytes
by the time I added up the existing collection it was already well over 1700

I have a feeling this list is not going to work too well... I love chaplains but it feels like the two in the CAD aren't really doing anything (I suppose they could hop inside the deathwatch land raider first turn, but the deathwatch already has a chaplain and three is a crowd)

The ork boy sculpts are nearing 20 years old

When are they going to get an update

>>51470635
> Vanilla Land Raider
Good god, I'd forgotten people actually built those. For your own sake, I'd recommend counting them as either Crusaders or Redeemers, probably Crusaders. The Godhammer land raider is a confused beast, best left alone.

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>>51470641
2007 was only 10 years ago

you must be thinking of the Khorne Berserkers which were from 1998

>>51469215
3e Orks had more playable lists than we have now.
KoS, Armorked Krumpany and flootslogga lists were all doable.

>>51469266
I played Alpha Legion (which wasn't great) and a Khornate Deamonbomb list (which was not).

>>51469289
>Singling out KoS as the only option when it was in a different book, and after that book was made, regular codex orks still won tournies.

I ran dakkamob orks, and although IW tourny lists were an uphill game, it wasn't the same gap as you have now between Orks and Mid Tier lists.

>>51470650
Theyve had an updated sprue, but ork boyz have looked the same since 2nd edition

>>51470646
One was bought already assembled, the other I could get some parts of ebay to convert I guess.

>>51467699
No they're not. They're in 40k too.

Wrath of Magnus mentions and shows them, they're on Terra.

>>51470657
>in b4 some sister player cries about sisters having been litereally the same since 2nd ed
an updated sprue goes a long way.

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What do you guys think of this?

>>51470680
it is pillow shaded, and their attempt at OSL is rather off-putting.

A real shame, since they clearly have skill with wet blending

>>51470507
There hasn't been a good Ork Codex since either.

>>51470680
Sharp execution, but that scheme is crap.

>>51470370

fortunately the burst pistol doesnt replace the volkite blaster...

so what are people's opinions on clear bases?

>>51470370
You're confusing the Volkite Blaster and the Phosphor Serpenta, the Volkite is one of the defaults and is upgraded to the Eradication Beamer. He's still got the burst pistol, the Macrostubber.

>>51467642
Why are there no LGBTQ marines? Why can't games workbench into inclusivity?

>>51470783
They're called the Emperors Children.

>>51470783
http://www.themarysue.com/warhammer-40k-gender-representation/

>>51470783
Its implied that LGBTQ-stuff is actually on pretty good standard in imperium. In "not really giving a shit"-way. Its hard to care if someone wants to be something else he/she was born when you got greater stuff to be utterly xenophobic about.

>>51470829
In the Grim Darkness of the far future identity politics are recognized as irrelevant, intentionally divisive nonsense.

>>51470857
Just like rest of the aspects of human life!

>>51470771
they look nice, but invariably scuff during play and end up looking crap. if you're using them for dioramas and non-play artpeices they work very very well

>>51468831
Genestealer cultists with skitarii helmets look better anyway.

>>51470696
>the pillow shading meme has escaped /ic/

somebody call the CDC, this could turn into an epidemic.

seriously though I do kinda like this sorta antiquated looking style of painting. I just don't think that's what they were actually going for.

info from GW rep...

two new rulebook:
40k - the rulebook is a new evolution from AoS/General handbook

horus heresy - The rulebook is basically a slightly simplified 7e

Approximate sales date: last May

Horus heresy rulebook will be sold in GW webstore
Horus heresy receive new plastic models before end of the year.

>>51470986
Pillow shading is a real thing and has always been, it did not come from /ic/.

>>51471003
of course, but I've noticed people are using it a lot more often on /tg/ lately. babby has learned some new vocabulary.

>>51470793
I don't know which is worse, the article or the comments.

>>51470993
additional info from gw rep email chain

slaanesh squatted - replaced with eldar god on pantheon. teams up with ascended emperor. dead loyalist primarchs come back as demons of the emperor

eldar and imperium combine factions

plastic jetbikes in june

>>51471013
So long as the term is being used properly (and in this case it is) who cares?

>>51471021
plastic ELDAR jetbikes or SPACE MARINE jetbikes?

>>51471021
Proof please.

>>51471021
I don't know what it is but I think it's the glossing over of 'ascended emperor' that somehow makes this seem legitimate.

>>51471027
yes

>>51471030
my uncle grandma is a gw forgewolrd

>>51470696
>>51470986

I had to google pillow shading, but a lot of 40k airbrush jobs do use this technique. They like to pre-shade a lot of blends to straight black where they really shouldn't, probably to get that "elite airbrushed" look.

>>51471047
He said email can easily screen shot or pic rom mobile

>>51471016
Everything.

>>51469599
>>51469623
HOLD UP
You can make KDK World Eaters??

>>51470793
God that is pure cancer. The comment section is also full pseudo intellectual white knights. I am glad the progressive movement didn't really tare off in GW.

>>51471094
Anon, if your heart truly believes you can make anything you want.

>>51468180
>>51468680
>gray skinned eldar
LOLwut. I think you've gotten the Eldar and Tau confused, anon.

>>51471021
I did not get this info

only this
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>>51470793
>AUTHOR’S NOTE: For the purposes of this article, unless otherwise stated, we are assuming that every model’s gender lines up with their sexual characteristics. Obviously, it’s possible that your entire Space Marines Chapter identifies as women, but since we can’t ask the models how they identify, we have to base it on what the model looks like, and how the background is written.

Holy fucking shit.

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>>51471027
>>51471030
>>51471045
>>51471083
Guys it was a joke. I was replying to the dubious and farfetch'd rumors with extremely dubious and farfetch'd false rumors. I didn't think it would get this far to be honest. I thought for sure I would lose people at eldar and imperium combine factions, then I put plastic jetbikes in to be safe.

>>51470793

IT KEEPS GOING

>I mean, they can’t only be men theoretically, and that’s where it gets irritating. See, according to the background (usually called fluff by those who play 40k), only men can be turned into Space Marines, because … you know what, the reasons are just too stupid to go into, and this immediately presents the first major hurdle when discussing the sexual politics of Warhammer 40,000: trying to actually discuss it

HE JUST STOPS TALKING ABOUT IT

>>51471200
I love the
>and are referred to by male pronouns
about orks. That's how the English language works. It's male if unknown or neutral.
>inb4 English is sexist
And that's never going to change. Don't hate people who use it properly, they didn't invent that shit.