Cringeworthy players of your favorite system

>>51463509

The kind of person who'd try to play Shadowrun as a 9yr old Dryad girl built to be the team's face. These players seem to think they're entitled to succeed because muh stats, and get galactically buttblasted when the GM dares to suggest that factors other than raw mechanics might be relevant.

I really hate L5R players who try to force firearms and similar technological changes into the setting.
Yes, there are multiple alternate histories for it, and yes, they can be pretty fun and interesting. But the core history doesn't have it or need it and it's really annoying when they constantly try to shove it in.
Really, trying to shove firearms in where they aren't supposed to be is annoying in every setting.

Anyone and everyone who posts in Pathfinder General.

>>51463509

Mother fucking rogues. I have yet to meet a rogue who wasn't an absolute shithead.

>>51465489
Our usual rogue player decided to be a wizard and he's still stealing treasure like always, but now he's started trying to bill the party for his services

>>51464159
My god this. Along with the fuckheads who want to shove 7th Sea into L5R or "I wanna play a gaijin" faggots.

>>51463509
Fucking weebs.
Like my DM has a rule where you can combine 2 classes and we use a homebrew site with like fukcing 500 races that I think /tg/ does not like, and a player made A character that is a shadow demon and... A FUCKING NEKO. You know whats the worst part? That was the DMPC

>>51465489
>>51466096
My rogue player plays them as likeable bastards instead of complete dickbags. I dunno, he contributes to the party and doesn't ruin anything. Rogues are like all classes - you can play them well and you can play them badly.

>>51464978
Well no shit. Playing with any of them would be no fun whatsoever, be it rules lawyering, the powergaming in general, or them making petty revenge characters to spite you when you say only X, Y, and Z books are being used.

>>51463509
Hate those fuckers who make everything about their most recent favorite powerwank fantasy anime and loudly bitch when anyone tells them it's other than perfect.
Lost a WoD game to JoJo, a DnD game to Sword Art, a Fate game to BoBoBo.

>>51466677
Sounds like your DM is a fucking weeb.

>>51467181
Fucking BoBoBo?

Tell us about their character pls

>>51467209
Indeed, please tell me he had a turd for a head or threw farts.

I played PF for the first time and my DM constantly referred to himself as GOD.

He also brought his trap gf who wouldn't shut it

It's like I lost my tabletop virginity to the fat slut at a party

>>51467308
>trap

>gf

you mean trap bf?

>>51467323

Well, yeah.

>>51463509

People who find a way to bring 2e and how much better it is in every conversation. Yes, it has its strengths, but we're not discussing it, sit down and shut up.

>>51466229
I Wanna Be The Gaijin.

People who won't shut up about their stats and bonuses. We get it, the recent level up made you better at combat. Can we now please get back to the story?

>>51467181

Theres a guy in my current game who does this shit. Worst part is he never picks one relevent to what we're doing. We started working for the spy corps, and i know for a fact he was one of the people who voted for that start, and the only weapon and proficiency he took was a massive fucking wall gun taller than he is. Oh and his character is a beautiful frail pale elf with great honking tits. Subtle. I wonder if she might be his waifu(spoiler: she is)

>>51463509
People who insist on playing a flawed character who's shit at everything and will never amount to anything important.

We're playing a roleplaying game, the GM PROBABLY has something in store for us. Why would you be out here if you weren't COMPETENT at something at the very least?

>>51467181
>tfw I do that merely as exercises in how well I understand character creation
>tfw I made an uncouth face for shadowrun because of a shitposter
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bbkZx5QBCfI&t=214s

>>51467181
>a Fate game to BoBoBo
I don't know about the others, but that one definitely sounds like an improvement.

The only thing I can think of that irks me to no end is when characters act cognizant of in-game mechanics. Like a Barbarian who will actually say In-Character they need to back-up from the frontline because they've only got two rounds of rage left. I've got no problem with a guy saying IC that they're tiring out or that they can't keep this up much longer but actually saying it verbatim pisses me off.

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>>51463509
Ok this guy is a mediocre player but I just have to bitch about him
> overweight dude with atrocious acme
> believes moon landing was faked
> believes most sports competitions are rigged (for money or something)
> believes 9/11 was a conspiracy
> let it slip he is 'open to the idea' the ISS is fake
> what you see through telescopes is just a hologram
We tried to show him that Wikipedia page 'proofs for the moon landings' but he brushed us of and just said he wasn't here to discuss that. He talks about it anyway he just shuts down when we try to prove him wrong.

Anyway he plays a meme 'DEUS VULT' Paladin. Legit played 'We Are Number One but its the first crusade' to announce the idea.

>>51463509
Doesn't matter what system you play there's always one asshole who decides that not only does the "party" need a "leader" but that it's going to be him/her/it.
Then they get all butthurt when the rest of the party prefers to work together to solve problems and overcome challenges instead of being ordered around by an idiot.

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>>51467479

>>51469876
I will never understand why Deus Vult caught on as a meme.

I will also never understand why people want to play Meme: The Character.

I feel old.

>>51469876
>believes most sports competitions are rigged (for money or something)
this is probably more true than you think

>>51470109
If you think playing a crippled plague victim who doesn't know how to use a sword at level 5 is okay, you're part of the problem.

>>51470655
Does the crippled plague victim have magical mind powers to help overcome his disabilities?
Because you just described a Pathfinder oracle with the scarred curse and that's a tier 1 class.

I make my living figuring out what my DM or other players hate the most and doing that.

By the end of the game they'll hate it just a little bit less

>>51463509
I know my 5e GM doesn't like my propensity to homebrew in order to fit sometimes very specific concepts. I mean, it's not usually to be overpowered, but admittedly I'd rather homebrew than take a bunch of weak options to fit what I want to achieve.

>>51470175
>I will never understand why Deus Vult caught on as a meme

It always came across to me as an attempt by alt-right Christfags to try and ride the meme train and appear hip and cool again.

>>51469876
Conspiracy theorists are the fucking worst, hands down. Because everything is a conspiracy, and everything that proves their conspiracy wrong is just another conspiracy. I don't understand how these people can hear the shit that comes out of their mouth and not think "maybe none of this is true and maybe I'm just fucking nuts".

>>51463509
D&D 5e.
Myself.

I just really don't like Touhoufag. But is that really so wrong?

>>51470816
But if you disagree or have a dissenting opinion, that means you're a cuck triggered lefty faggot etc etc etc.

4chan's not a place of political discourse, is my point.

I'm just imagining him talking about jet fuel can't melt steel beams while talking about how the Jews control the world while playing a paladin.

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>>51463509
My favorite system is dnd 5e because it's the only system my group will play
In 5e there's that guy
>Doesn't know most of the rules after 3 year campaign
>Needs help ever fucking combat to determine what he should do or what his spells do
>Doesn't remember to hit, saves, initiative, skills, or anything of numerical value despite it being on his character sheet
>Used to kinda pay attention
>Now he just shows up and starts taking my fucking books about not dnd stuff to read while ignoring combats and npc interactions
>Has actually pressured the dm into forcing a very important source of lore into fucking off by saying "I'm bored"
>Too much of a pussy to get with a chick
>Has horrible back story with him being yaoi boy at age 4
>Character was "I am emo and have scars and tattoos" and "I don't care if people don't like me"
>Because of people not liking him he decided to remove all that shit by magic
>Complains about magic that makes camping possible anywhere because it makes things easier
>Scared off the group girl by writing a terrible fan fiction of their characters getting together and sharing it with everyone
>Wants to end sessions early all the fucking time no matter what
>Is a huge pussy who whenever confronted by people's actions he immediately dodges them by saying "okay okay I'll do that" and then doesn't do that
>Threatened to leave sessions early by going to a support group thing but then couldn't get into the support group
>forgot own terrible back story so when it came back to haunt him he didn't know it
>Has morals that make no sense with "there was to be a balance to good and evil"
>Party leader is destroyer of evil and he's been with the party 3 ingame years
>Says he worships a god but doesn't actually do anything related to that god
>DM pandering made his character effective, not his choices
>passive aggressive
>We tell him most of this stuff and he says he'll improve, only to faulter
>would kick him, but we're his only friends

>>51470779
The cringe is real

>>51466677
>shadow demon neko DMPC
Red flags don't get any redder. But then you say "has", so is he still your DM? Are things going smoothly in spite of that?

>>51467479
Playing absolute losers can be fun as fuck as long as the entire group is doing it and the players don't want to wallow in mediocrity forever.

>>51470963
Oh Jesus fuck, that's awful.
Anon. Look up "Geek social fallacies". You have no obligation to associate with awful people because you're the only one who tolerate their awfulness.

>>51470932
The who?
Dude with Moescape?

>>51466910
I always figured rogues were people like Han Solo, Malcom Reynolds, Gambit, Robin Hood, Catwoman, Jack Sparrow but almost all rogues I've played with went full chaotic evil/stupid murderhobo.

Look, you might play a criminal but that doesn't mean you have to be a dick.

>>51464978
>play PF
>go into thread
>incessant ruleslawyering
>ask a question about how the upper class would use magic
>every single answer is that either they are Wizards, or they are identical to real world Medieval aristocracy

For fuck's sake, what if I want a mundane upper class who buy magic items just like the fucking players do? All of these cunts are so set in their ways, it's unbelievable. They're exactly like the rest of /tg/ who complains about 3.PF, except they unironically like all the shit everyone else hates.

I just want to use the system to run a fun game. And I really hate this munchkin attitude with creatively interpreting rules and building entire characters in mechanics-based gimmicks. No, how about you just play a fucking character instead of a balance sheet?

>>51466910
>>51471422
There's this real problem with idiots who think every class comes with a mandatory personality. So they play every Barbarian as Conan's retarded cousin, every Rogue as a backstabbing dickbag, every Paladin as a no-fun-allowed thought police officer, every Ranger as an aloof, animal-fucking faggot. And so on, and so forth.

Usually Fighter is the only class they can play properly, because it's such a normal class there's no real stereotype for it.

Meanwhile I'm waiting for the oppertunity to play a Rogue who is simply a spy and isn't interested in stealing anything apart from useful intelligence in service of his nation. But of course that means running with a DM who doesn't assume greed is the natural prime motivator of any character.

>>51467181
>a Fate game to BoBoBo.
This is really not the thing you should complain about.

>>51469876
Everyone's entitled to their beliefs and god knows mine are most likely considered bat shit crazy.

If nobody agrees with you why do people still bring it up? I'll never understand people like him.

>>51470816
>everything I don't like is done by the Nazis

And here you are complaining about conspiracy theorists...

Son, the first person who ever told me about "Deus Vult" was the local chapter leader of the International Socialists.

>>51464159
You're why L5R is shit, good job.

>>51471507
You might be me anon

I just want to have a group who would be all cool with doing shit that isn't mechanically viable since I know how to make it work as a DM, but of course I have one guy who minmaxes unchained barbarians to one shot every single encounter and gets salty if he can't

>>51470717
Or you just a little bit more

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>>51467308
Hot.

>>51466677
Do you have a link to that page by any chance? I really want to see that clusterfuck of a list.

>>51463509
I had that guy in Warhammer 2 ed campaign.

In this system, there's skill that let you "weave" winds of magic, to make casting easier. I'm not sure how it's called in english version, but let's call it "weaving".

Also, magic in WhFR has hight chance to make wizard live harder, so it should be used with caution. This guy however had huge problem with magic decisions, so his usual turn looked like that:

>TG: I'm weaving magic
>GM: Ok, what you want to cast?
>I-I-I don't know

>>51472586
>gets salty if he can't

Man, do I fucking hate this. I'm just starting a new campaign, and the first thing people do is "can I play this shit that you said you don't want to allow"? They're all good people, so I'm not too worried, but it really makes things kind of shitty for me. It adds a lot of extra effort trying to alleviate everyone's worries, when it could all be avoided if they'd just accept the shit I laid out for them. But some people get so fucking anal about their characters.

3.5 / Pathfinder players who go on and on about how powerful Wizards are. They only play Wizards and they get BTFO constantly because they're not actually smart enough to play Wizards well and are just parroting what they read on Brilliant Gameologists or The Gaming Den.

>>51473301
>butthurt communist is butthurt

What else is new?

>>51471648
I didn't call anyone a Nazi, nor did I imply everything I don't like is caused by one group.

Maybe try getting less triggered next time.

>>51470932

I mean, eh? Not liking someone isn't really... wrong, ever. Some people just rub you the wrong way. Like... do you think he should never play 4E again and you want to burn off his fingers? Because that's, uh, a different thing.

>>51470816

No, I'm pretty sure it was just 4chan being 4chan. It sounded vaguely cool but kinda ridiculous, and so it turned into a meme. That's... that's pretty much it.

>>51473333
Nice quads, but why did you delete your other post?

>le everyone who goes against me is triggered meme

Nah son, being triggered implies some sort of irrational response. You know, like a lapse into a PTSD flashback, where the term originates. Me telling you that the Nazis aren't out to get you isn't me being triggered. But you responding with profanities and deleting your posts to make better ones probably is.

>I didn't call anyone a Nazi, nor did I imply everything I don't like is caused by one group.

Do you remembering learning about hyperboles in school? What I used there was a hyperbole. You are attaching some sort of political meaning to a meme that you don't like, which I think is retarded. Which I point out by using a hyperbole and the anecdote about how I first heard the meme.

Now go and be triggered no more.

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Infinity: people who submit themselves entirely to the infamous Kurwaspam. I don't mean people who just play spam armies – I mean the ones who will actively tell you that playing anything less that 20 Orders is auto-lose and that any unit costing more than 30pts (in a 300pts game) is literally unplayable.

Well fuck you, I did not choose to play PanO to pretend I'm Ariadna.

The problem isn't that spam is unbeatable, but it is hard to deal with when you're not prepared against it and it makes the otherwise fast and intensive game slow down to a crawl as you opponent has to move all 30 of his Hungries or Grunts.

Thankfully the rules and tournament scenarios have been updated a bit since 2015, Limited Insertion (hard 10 orders cap optional rule) became a thing and Corvus Belli is actively promoting TAG-play, so it became a lot more fun again. The game is supposed to work for 10-15 units, not 20+ spam.

>>51473448

Buddy, while I understand that English is your second language, "God always blaming the fucking nazis" is pretty common parlance here for 'fuck you numale cuckshit why don't you go choke on more mudslime dick you limpdicked faggot'. /pol/ is kind of a shitty place, and it's spilled everywhere.

>>51473473
Well, you did blame the creation of a meme on /pol/ basically.

>>51463509

In no particular order I hate

>>Guys that never read the fucking rulebook player and DM alike
>>Stupid fucks that think they can make OP characters but actually suck shit at it and make subpar crap then whine about it
>>Weeaboos that always want to play Kirito/Vegeta/FavTrapoftheMonth and constantly ask for ways to stuff it awkwardly into the game system
>>The same kind of asshole as the above but he wants to play a Jedi/Furry/Ninja/etc every game

>>51473532

Not that it matters, but I'm a different anon, was just pointing out that being prickly about 'leave the nazis alone!' doesn't have the same passive, melodramatic tone it had a year or so ago. I'm >>51473420

>>51467479
My favourite character to date was operator grandpa. He was a decrepit old cleric who had like 4dex, 6str and 6con. First fight we get into with orcs? He decides to hide behind a tree. Seeing the battle going poorly, decides he needs to help. Cue him poking his head out to fire rocks from his sling, before retreating before seeing if they hit. He didn't roll a thing under 17, and ended up killing more orcs than the whole party combined. That is before he got the Odin treatment and was pinned to the tree he was hiding behind by an Orc who snuck around and threw a spear.

One of my favorite systems, mechanically, is Ironclaw
So, everyone except me.
I've never actually gotten to play it because everyone else gets put off by bad book art, even though the system is good.

>>51473333
not him but, nazi is the new term for alt-right christians

>>51465489
To prevent my Thief-like being total shitheads, I tend to give them a loyal streak.

The last time I played a character who had really sticky fingers, the character was loyal to a fault and tended to ask the party's moralfag fighter for permission before doing anything grey area. The DM helped by also giving me a few good, solid chances for me to knick things from people.
Instead of stealing from the party, she had a habit of doing magic tricks for them, though once or twice she planted innocent and harmless "gifts" on them. The only time she ever got in trouble with the party is when she lifted a key from the party leader and went ahead to try and make things right on her own, and they were mostly mad because it was a move that almost got her killed.

The most recent time I played a character that had an extreme personality that would scare /tg/ on an application, I played a NE serial killer in a mostly-good party. Zero problems. She genuinely liked the party and would listen when she had a 'practical' suggestion... and she would listen when they said 'no'

I don't get how people fuck this kind of thing up, to be honest.

>>51467386
I would allow someone to play that character.
Low-skill, no-notability Gaijin character who REALLY wants to become most honorabru samurai
That would be great.

>>51469876
>believes moon landing was faked
People still deny this?

>>51463509
>5ed
I've had lots of problems with GM's who won't kill PC's, even after they make NUMEROUS bad decisions and roll badly; instead choosing to secretly fudge dice rolls, openly fudge dice rolls, or through some fiat say the character was returned to life by a god or something. Alternatively, they never give their party situations with even a significant chance of their death or injury. Once I got a GM who let our wizard return to life after they got separated from the group in a dungeon and tried to solo an earth elemental, except they came back with as a ghost all their old spells, vastly improved melee abilities, ability to travel too and from the ethereal plane pretty much at will, invisibility on-demand, immunity to non-magical physical attacks and a fucking fly speed.

>>51473552
Yeah, and while you may tell me English is my second language, I think it's not too much to ask that people can accurately identify hyperbole when they see it. Because the comment was made with that new stuff in mind. He invoked the alt-right, and anyone who hates the alt-right has a tendency to unironically call them Nazis. The Nazis have been a favorite boogeyman ever since the war ended, and especially now there's a genuine threat to the establishment. Hence the habit of blaming everything on "Nazis" has quickly become a hallmark of the established left. Funnily enough the Russians also work like this, and one of their big arguments about Ukraine was that their opponents are Nazis.

I could also have invoked Russian hackers, alternative facts and fake news, of course. But anti-Nazi hysteria has bit more of a presence in the collective consciousness. Either way, to link the creation of a meme to a nebulous far right group (because as far as I'm aware there's no clear definition of the alt-right that everyone agrees with) is hysteria, doubly so when clung to with insulting zeal.

>>51473871

Dude, a guy at my work still believes 9/11 was faked. People will believe whatever makes them feel smart, and conspiracy theories let you feel awful smug and awful smart.

>>51474355
We had someone in a government position who thought ISIS was a Jewish conspiracy.

>>51464978
This. so fucking much.

>>51473309
> LMAO I CAN END ANY ENCOUNTER WITH SLEEP!

>WTF!? DM YOU NEED TO TONE IT DOWN!

Everytime.

>>51474355
Are we talking "The Twin Towers never existed in the first place" faked or "The government was involved in the attacks" faked?

>>51472848
Nah, like a good Boy Scout, I always leave the table better than I found it.

>>51473561

>I did a statistically improbable thing
>Therefore ignore that I will almost never be able to meaningfully contribute

Ok

>>51474549
I'm gonna guess it's the "controlled demolition" fake. I'm. Otherwise surprised by anything anymore ever since I met a dude in my class who, no shit, thought the earth was flat

>>51474549
>implying jet fuel can melt steel beans

>>51473824
that'd be pretty cool. hamstring the character and give 'em something to work towards.

Makes it all the more sweet if they succeed.

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the randumb player. the one who believes Chaotic Neutral means Chaotic Stupid, that he's entitled to ruin tense scenes with his "wacky antics" and if you call him out he goes "but muh randumb". Comedy is nice and all, but there's a difference between being funny and being a retard.

I also hate those that interrupt the game all the time.

>>51470706
His point was a character who isn't good at anything. Not a character with flaws, but the guy who plays a fighter who's bad at combat and a coward and has no out of combat skills or abilities to help out with anything or do anything. Basically, a character with zero mechanical purpose.

>>51463509
>What's your favorite
FFG Star Wars & Pathfinder

> who makes you roll your eyes the instant that hit the table?
oh god is there a list:
- retardedly evil characters, always at the top of the list. just don't ever bring a psychopath character to my table, I'll never approve it.

>>51475498
>a fighter who's bad at combat and a coward
I thought that the whole point of D&D was that you are playing a heroic character? or at least an anti-hero. Wouldn't the utter coward of a soldier be more of a background NPC?

>>51475498
I was kinda confused when you first posted, but yeah that's fucking obnoxious.

>>51475282
I wouldn't mechanically penalize them--I'd just require the character not have skill in social skills and area knowledge, etc. which are really clutch in dealing with anyone in a highly-regimented society, y'know?

>>51474549
>The Twin Towers never existed in the first place
Okay, THAT'S new to me

>>51467181
>Fate to Bobobo
Storytime, anon.

Favorite system is GURPS, but it drives me up the wall sometimes that one of my players insists on playing something super fucking weird every time just because he knows he can. He never breaks the in-setting conceits really, but he'll find the most bizarre-yet-technically-plausible thing in any given setting and decide he wants to play it.

>>51470816
There's nothing wrong with believing in conspiracies. Believing everything is a conspiracy is wrong, but sometimes people are actually conspiring together. I'm sure this doesn't help my point, but I hold the opinion that the government went out of its way to give "conspiracy" a bad name to stop people from making conspiracy theories regardless of evidence for or against.

>>51473824
But I don't want to play that. I want to play grizzled, Not!European knight that fucks Japanese-- sorry, I mean 'Rokuganese' sluts and pounds samurai into dirt with a mace and shield combo, made of good, real metal.

>>51476967
It's Samurai fiction. Katanas are good there.
You can definitely fuck bitches though.

>>51476848
>Gurps
Muh nig
Glad to hear I'm not the only GM who encounters that. Something about ultimate freedom invites the worst limit testing sometimes.

My current game has high adventure in 1888, where the STARGATE was discovered early. Fucking hell, I have never seen such wanking nerd boners for 19th venture high-power hunting rifles.
10d6 pi++ is overkill. Just plain overkill

>>51476659
In a few years there will be a whole generation of people who never ever saw the Twin Towers. And that belief will be even more common.

>>51476871

[s]That might be one of the most mundane crazy conspiracies I've ever heard. You are absolutely absurdly incorrect and I worry if you sincerely hold that belief.[/s]

>>51474456

Who was that?

>>51477196
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>>51477196
Government has influence in the media.

Media makes a stink about how obvious crazy conspiracies like the moon landing being fake are obviously crazy.

Keeps pushing how crazy these conspiracy theories are.

Eventualy the public thinks of nutjob ravings when they hear the phrase "conspiracy theory." If some actual legitimate conspiracy happens, like the DNC rigging the election primary (please do not ban me for just mentioning a political occurrence, mods) and tons of evidence appearing through leaked e-mails, you can just call them conspiracy theorists and everyone will immediately dismiss them.

Is this really such a crazy thing to propose? Or are you going to call me crazy just because I'm proposing a conspiracy theory regardless of what I'm actually saying?

GMs who just won't stop using made-up words and names. Bonus points if that's just a mishmash of real words, but written in a retarded way.

>>51463509
Any WoD player that gives me a shitty character with 3-4 flaws.

Your armless crippled child that can't read has no place in a fucking vampire politics game you dickhead.

>>51476871

Nah thats probably true, and if not, doesn't keep it from benefitting them

>>51477131
>Something about ultimate freedom invites the worst limit testing sometimes.
Seriously. I love the ability to say "yes" to most anything, but it also makes the ability to say "no" or "yes, but" even more important.

>high-power hunting rifles
Mmf. To be fair, if I were playing in your campaign, I would almost certainly jump on that bandwagon too.

>>51463509
In GURPS, there are players always want to make their special snowflake characters, because GURPS has so much depth for character creation in just the Basic Set that if you don't limit what you want out of your players you end up with "edgy elf-eared human with split personality, luck, poor."

>>51477256
I'm assuming it was sarcasm, not spoilers.

>>51477131
High powered hunting rifles are all fun and games until their characters get shot at with them.

>>51477290

What you've proposed is a hypothetical which can tested against verifiable and empirical data gathering. What's crazy is assuming that hypothetical chain of events is real, active, and current absent any hard evidence.

A lack of evidence is not evidence, and just because it appears something could occur a certain way doesn't mean that it has.

Let's be honest-- there is nothing crazy about the suspicion that one's media consumption is apolitical. But synthesizing one's world view around the notion that there is an organized, actively hidden agenda at play--without direct evidence--is when the tinfoil comes out.

#1 - Murderhobos. ForEx: Player in 1920s CoC wants to kill & loot everyone the party talks to because "Cthulu" or something.

#2 - Furries. ForEx: Player insists on interspecies sex/romance/ancestry despite genre. "I want to play half human, half robot, half Klingon, and half giraffe in love with a palm tree."

#3 - Snowflakes. ForEx: In our low fantasy Roman conquest of Gaul game, I want to play either a high energy particle physicist or Galadriel.

>>51470175
I once made a Deus vult character without knowing the meme. It was gothic horror and I was a inquisitor for the Not! Catholic church. Zealously crusading against vamps felt natural

>>51477717
Then it's just fun.

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>>51467479
Flawed characters are fine. Intentionally making an awful character for "lol I'm so unique XD" and then bitching that every time they try and do something they fail or do badly due to how badly they made themselves, bitching at GMs and generally being a pain.

E.g. guy played a character who refused to use any weapon except a brick they threw at people. Had awful strength and complained every time they couldn't help out on a fight because their brick was at the other side of the room and they refuse to fight any other way.

I feel your pain, anon.

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>>51467308
Saved forever because it has got to be one of the most brief, concise yet funny fucking things I've read on this board

>>51471650
found the gunaboo

>>51477295
Like Healthiness Value and Magycka Gauge?

>>51473768
I think you mean the original name.

>>51479031

Go debate what alt-right is on pol. Noone cares.

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>wahh why don't we have currency?
>hey could you guys do all this work to convert the gear lists so I can use currency?

>>51470963
>Doesn't know most of the rules after 3 year
DnD is literally babbies' first RPG, especially 5e, the rules are simplified as fuck. What the hell.

>>51470963
>would kick him, but we're his only friends
Who cares? We had a guy who was disrupting our game and probably was only like, half as bad as that guy, and we kicked him. He turned on the waterworks and cried about how we were his only gaming group and we just crossed our arms and didn't budge.

Playing RPGs is supposed to be fun for -everyone-, and if you've given him ample warnings and directions to improve and he still hasn't after 3 bloody years, he deserves to be kicked.

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>>51470963
>Scared off the group girl by writing a terrible fan fiction of their characters getting together and sharing it with everyone

>>51477290
You know I could almost buy Pizzagate being a deliberate scheme to discredit conspiracy theorists.

It would actually be way more comforting if that were the case. The alternative, that people really are stupid enough to come to that conclusion, is way more terrifying.

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Asshole players who play asshole characters, use it to be as sarcastic as possible, and ironically are the ones who take IC way the fuck more OOC than anyone else when someone snaps back at them ICly. It's a fucking chore to figure out if they're holding grudges OOCly, and 99% of the time, they ARE.

>>51480191
I mean, these are the guys who voted in a rapist who literally used "no, you" in a presidential debate.

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>>51480281
>these are the guys who voted in a rapist

>>51478377
I never argued against flawed characters. Flawed protagonists tend to invoke some of the truest storytelling of any era, and can provide some pretty good roleplay if done well.

Playing a character that is purposefully shit out of the gate for the sake of being "realistic" is obnoxious as fuck.

That character sounds awful, anon.

>>51480191

I'm actually curious- have you read any of the pizzagate stuff? I mean, I don't believe it(there's zero evidence, after all) but there is some weird shit in there that's hard to explain.

>>51480281

Hes not a rapist. He was accused, and the sit was dropped when it was no longer politically expedient. And better him than the woman we know was sent the questions ahead of time and still underperformed

>>51474534
Yeah, it's like the guys going on about this have never heard of saves.

Thought of a new one! Players with no fucking memory, so when i build a buffmancer with shit like fortune that requires them to actually actively use their buffs, theu never use them, so my buffmancer becomes useless.

>>51467323
Girl (Male)

>>51463509
People obsessed with necromancy and obsessed with being the nice guy necromancer.
The skeletons are not your fucking friends, they're soulless automatons who will turn on you with intent to destroy given a moment's notice if not constantly kept under your thumb.
In the same vein, the 'oh so clever' player who is never as smart as he thinks he is. The number 1 reason wizards are never as busted as reality as they are in theory is because this guy is always the party wizard and always a dumbass.

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>>51480805
I've read some of it, yeah. The only thing it had going for it was the fact that the international symbol for boy lovers resembled the pizza shop's logo. But other than that it all seemed to be Nostradamus-tier bullshit attempts to find evidence where it doesn't exist.

My favorite part was the bit where they decided "cheese pizza" in the emails was really referring to kiddie porn, or how they used that picture of the two Asian women and the little girl eating pizza as evidence of a sex slave trafficking ring, without realizing the two women were American journalists who had just been released from captivity in North Korea.

>>51477235
Just some random Muslim "moderate" working for a cyber security branch of the government. She was fired, thankfully. But there are probably still loads more hidden radicals.

>>51469876
everything but the paladin and the video are reasons to eject this man from your group.

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>Those players in a 3.5/PF game that powergame like hell, forcing the GM to throw broken enemies at them and transforming every single battle into a ridiculous display of weird powers and abilities that not even the most animu of anime fights can compete with

Just kidding, I love that sort of nonsense as long as it's played tongue in cheek by everyone.

>>51463509
All world of darkness players, including myself.

>>51480416
This is american politics.
Rape isn't even surprising, let alone extraordinary.

>>51481156
I keep saying America and Africa are a lot alike, and this shit isn't helping.

>>51480970
Cheese pizza has long been code for child porn (CP, CP) on the internet. Literally decades. Of course, someone actually using it when trying to sell that would be as dumb as a "masseuse" that uses the phrase happy ending, but hey.

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>>51481084
>thinking Deus Vult Paladins are okay instead of obnoxious Christfag shit
>thinking meme videos are okay to just put on to describe what your character is going to be

0/10 bait, got me to reply anyway, commit pic related.

>>51478898
More like Leynard the Kyng of Aelfdar (with the "ae" being the "ash" grapheme) or Order of Mahjees. I swear, the next time I'll hear that I'll ask that hack of a GM to spell it out, and make sure to do it multiple times, and see if he gets the hint.

>>51478605
>>51464159
>>51466229
>guns don't fit in settings inspired by feudal Japan
>guns don't fit in settings inspired by medieval Europe

I laugh at you.

>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but i don't like em XDDDD

An opinion is fine. But ranting like it's a fact is retarded.

>>51481338
>guns don't fit in this setting that is designed to not have guns in it
I laugh at you too.

>>51472586
You mean mechanically optimal.

Not mechanically viable would be playing truenamer. Not mechanically optimal would be using scouts as scouts and having creepy necromancers who raise the dead be mystic theurges, just for shiggles.

For the guy who minmaxes unchained barbarians, the best thing I can think of is to sell fantasy life insurance to all the villains. Then, whenever they die, they get resurrected. Then let the barbarian quest for a means to kill them deader than dead, or to dismantle the life insurance company.

>>51473626
I really want to play Ironclaw, but I'm really reluctant to talk about that. I know a bunch of furries, so I could probably get a game together, but then I'd have to play with furries.

I don't know if I can deal with the drama inherent in such a thing.

>>51481579
I know how you feel. I thought Legend of the Five Rings would be full of awful weebs, but they were actually some of the chillest people I've ever hung out with, and the GMs knew what the fuck they were doing.

You just have to take that plunge sometimes, and if you mess up, all you can do is pick yourself up and try again.

>>51480281
>who voted in a rapist

What Bill Clinton is back in power?

>>51481579
Groups change. Furries now aren't the furries of ten years ago, who weren't the furries of ten years before that. You have to judge it on a case by case basis, I suppose. But there's a pretty big rift between hobbyists and "lifestylers" and similar autistic trash. It's kind of like Trek fans. I once met a guy in wheelchair who travelled hundreds of kilometers to see Patrick Stewart speak for five minutes. Well, he did get a personal conversation out of it, because the wheelchair is a sure draw for stuff like that. But for me it was a ten minute bike ride, and I wouldn't have gone through the same effort. You just need to seperate your ten minute bike ride furries from your hundreds of kilometers wheelchair furries.

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>>51482003

Says you. All four of my Legend of the Five Rings GMs have been completely antagonistic, passive-aggressive, faction-obsessed/favoritist, and extreme sticklers for lore and whatever they think counts as Rokugani "etiquette."

>>51482460
And that's a goddamn shame.

Not saying it doesn't have those people - everyone has groups that are cunts (t. /tg/). But as my advice to that anon is, buck up and try again.

>>51481579
What about the furries you know brings drama? My group plays Ironclaw and there is literally zero drama at our table except in times of moral conumdrums fuck paladins

>>51482483
People who complain about furries generally don't have a problem with the "furries they know." If they interact with them regularly they're probably fine people who don't shove furshit in your face.

The furries people complain about are the undesirables you'd only ever game with if you were playing some public game on Roll20 and would otherwise avoid at all costs.

My group is like 3/5ths furry, but none of them ever bring up their fetish or have even tried to play an anthro race. I'd still never want to game with someone who openly admits to being a furry if I didn't know them that well.

>>51480970

Honestly the more specific they got the more theor bullshit was apparent, but theres some really fishy shit, like an email saying "this is a family friendly event, so please bring all children",or Obama ordering thousands worth if pizza and hotdogs, despite the secret service not allowing outside food. Something fishy was going on. They might be barking up the wrong tree, but I wouldn't exclude the possibility they were in the right orchard, if you get what i mean.

>>51482696
There was that one phrase that went something like "would you rather play dominos on cheese or almonds," wasn't there? Just some weird shit that makes no sense as anything but codewords?

>>51481390

Feudal Japan had guns though, is what he's getting at. You described it as bog-standard feudal japan. Why would i NOT expect to be able to be That One Guy Who Has Regimented Rifle Units? That was really powerful in feudal japan, particularly in the... Warring kingdoms period? I believe? Y'know, that period of Japanese history where everyone was at war and every japanese war game is based out of?

>>51482772
Whoever described it as bog standard feudal japan was wrong or lying.
Rokugan is not Japan.

>>51482726

Yeah that's what i mean uncomfortable phrases that seem ti have hidden meaning. All over the place in those documents too.

>>51482772
It's because gunpowder weapons are illegal in the setting. More illegal than you'd reasonably expect.

Also the Sengoku Jidai might have had gunpowder weaponry, but only used extensively by one particular warlord, where as most others thought it was stupid bullshit.

Gunpowder weaponry became more of a thing during the westernization of Japan during the late 1800's.

Also everyone who says "I want gunpowder weapons in Rokugan!!!" tends to be a powergaming sperg.

>>51482772
1: L5R is an RPG (And a dead CCG), not a wargame. Standard characters are not in charge of armies.
2: It is not and has never been a historical setting. They literally haven't tried to claim it as historical for 20 years or so, and it was only claimed as such then because John Wick is an idiot who didn't have access to a real source of information and refused to believe that he was wrong.

>>51482817

I dunno, i have no interest in legend of the five rings just because everything ive heard makes it sound like weeaboo hell. Does it atleast have most not-samurai be archers?

>>51482850
Also >>51482817

I have a feeling that the people who are advocating for gunpowder weapon use are just trying to stir shit up.

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>>51482853

>>51482850
>More illegal than you'd reasonably expect
About as illegal as you might expect something that is literally blasphemous (It doesn't play well with the standard elemental spirits and the only demonstration of it was an attempted coup by foreigners that ended in the death of the most beloved Emperess of all time) in a setting where theology has real, tangible power and the entire country only has one official religion.

>>51482851

Your standard characters might not be in charge of armies, but easily 1/3 of all characters i make ina any given ttrpg have the goal of becoming proper land owners and getting atleast a small army to my name.

Thats one of the reasons i dislike 3.5/pf; attracting followers should be as RP, not mechanics.

>>51482696
>>51482726
>>51482833
Yeah, stuff like that is often a front for shifty acquisitions. It's possible some of us have done something similar in small ways. I've bought gaming computers through my dad's business, and anyone with knowledge of the stuff would look at an expensive "business computer" and think "something fishy is going on here".

People are also failing to realize that Pizzagate surfaces as a thing jot on the heels of mounting child abuse scandals in the UK. First there was Saville, who's acts were covered up/ignored by the BBC, which is a government organization. Then there were the euphemistically named "grooming gangs", the most famous of which was in Rotherham, which were ignored and covered up by government officials. None of whom have been punished. And after that there was the scandal about highly placed government officials raping children, and it being covered up. The knowledge of that likely informed the leap of logic that took place with Pizzagate.

>>51482943
It's not impossible for that to happen, since shitty little border wars happen all the time between clans and any samurai could be qualified to run a fief (Proper land ownership doesn't exist on paper since everything belongs to the emperor) and be in charge of some amount of military, but it's not really a normal part of most campaigns.

>>51482900

What? The samurai were archers, and I'm personally not a fan of the fanfiction bullshit wih the katana. It was fuckig propoganda by the ruling classes to disguise he fact that they used to just straight murder people, and factions lead bt archers are more interesting to me than what basically ends up being roughly equivalent to medieval europe armies.

>>51482981

Playstyle differences. Different people have different goals and all that. My current game of 2e d&d im a priest of Athena and I'm aiming to establish Athens.

>>51483000
Real Japan didn't have literal gods come down from on high with their own developed ideas on what's "correct" and "perfect".

>>51483000
Yeah, great, except L5R isn't historical Japan, and I'm sure that having a katana as a weapon just pains you SO MUCH.

Fuck's sake, man, you can handle all the other nerd related shit on /tg/, but anything involving something Japanese is where you draw the line?

It's like people who only do DEUS VULT meme knights out of some sort of misplaced nationalism.

My DM for an Anima game is basically his own cringe engine. Every villain is just a smug bastard who spouts pseudo-philosophy. Don't get me wrong, this isn't a bad villain archetype, but when it's every villain it gets pretty old. Especially because I think the DM genuinely believes what he's saying is cool and deep when really its just him being obnoxious. Doesn't help that he always makes his villains at a powerlevel that is so far beyond the PCs when one of them starts a speech we all just go along with it, armed with the knowledge that if it came to blows we would just wipe.

>>51483620
Any examples or interesting stories?

>>51482694
I'm a furry and I'm playing a cat anthro just because they're in the lore of this homebrew.

I hope other people don't view me as a problem. I'm roleplaying as normal, at any rate, and not shoving any fetishes into the game.

>>51469876
Could be just for lulz, if it is nothing wrong.

>>51470109
>funnyjunk file name
you have to go back

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Anyone who tries to shove or make Alchemist/Artificer/Smithy/Miner/Merchant type Classes/Jobs into the system.

>Well this here D&D game is all about adventure, fighting, looting, pillaging, and seeking thrills out in the great unknown.
>I know! I'll make a class who's core concept is to stay at home and focus on getting good at one thing that requires me to build a client base, run a business, and otherwise be stationary as long as possible!
>This will fit in with all of these Rogues, Warriors, traveling battle priests, and wizards-for-hire!

How about fuck off and die?

>>51483672
Alright, so it's myself and four other players. We'll call them H, J, and S
>S is having a character arc and the whole party ends up in the forest
>Having a dramatic back and forth about the difference in our views and in general getting some good character development
>S and H are in the middle of a conversation and it's actually very engaging and well RP'd
>Out of nowhere the fucking BBEG appears and starts dominating the conversation with S
>Then he takes out a gun and shoots J in the chest
>His base attack is something like 315, the highest defense anyone on our team can get does not even approach that
>My character is the highest with a 215 under perfect circumstances
>Naturally, this shot kills our little glass cannon
>DM ends the session, seems smug as if he just did something clever and dramatic
>S, "I swear if this is some bullshit and it's 'you take 40 damage but...' instead of what this bullet should do"
>DM plays it straight
>As I'm leaving says "I don't bullshit"
>Resist the urge to say "Sure you don't" with the most poisonously sarcastic tone I could muster
And that's the story of how the DM simultaneously ruined a perfectly good RP moment and destroyed my investment in the campaign.

>>51484334
The worst part is I'd love to tell some stories about how crap and identical all of his villains are, but they're so bland and forgettable I can't think of anything to say.

All of them talk down to the PCs in the same way
All of them have the same bad habit of not actually doing logical things.
All of them have no real ostensible goal other than "win" whatever that may mean.

The whole thing plays out like a poorly written fanfiction.

I guess I should be happy with what I got. All the players are great and the DM is a nice guy, he just can't write. I was honestly expecting worse when I signed up for a campaign that is homebrewed for a RWBY themed campaign.

>>51463509
The rules-lawyer autists in 5e general who get ultra specific about any and every word used, both in the system itself and when talking to them, when the intention behind the words were obvious and clear.
Not everyone in 5eg is like this. But there are notable individuals who certainly are.

>>51472947
https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/5e_Homebrew

Half the shit is cancer, a fourth is okay and another fourth is semi-cancerous

>>51484263
>have another player in my game playing a traveling merchant (rogue)
>he focuses on getting us paid, using connections & information, being bait, and is a pretty good roleplayer

I'm fine with this.

>>51483057

Nah i just hate the katana meme as much as you seem to hate deus vault. I fuckin love Japans goofy ass bows.

>>51485121

It's fine when they have a regular class that happens to be running a business, but what gets my goat is when they try to make a class where the concept is "Stay at home and run a business and don't adventure", because often times, they wind up either making a class that is essentially useless to everyone except the DM if he wants to run a 2e/3e game, or they start doing really weird stuff to the fluff of attacks to make the concept stick even though it doesn't make sense, like with half of 4e's shit.

>"My character uses this once-per-day attack where he builds a catapult and shoots it doing 6d6 damage to a group, but then the catapult falls apart for no reason and he can only build one per day. This takes a round, but it's balanced and combat ready!"

>>51484334
>>51484425
Sheesh, yeah that sounds bad. Why do you guys still play in his games? Why hasn't someone else taken over as GM, or at the very least why hasn't anyone dropped out?

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>>51475731
> Implying you can't be Caiphas Cain
> Implying you can't retreat forward

>>51477290
> primary election was rigged
Meh teir
> Moon landing was fake
Serious concern teir
> Earth is flat
Oh shit nigga what are you doing?

>>51480805
> pizza gate is real
/pol/ circlejerk teir

>>51485937
>pizza gate is real
>in response to "I don't believe it(there's zero evidence, after all)"
Learn to read nigga.

>>51484263
Dunno. That can actually work if the player actually attempts to integrate them into the party. Usually though it's just an excuse to try and turn the game into Recettear at everybody else's expence.

>unknown armies
>cringe worthy players
>players at all

Good joke :c

>>51477840
We have direct evidence. It's empirically proven that the media is owned wholly by a single interest. Stop sucking the cocks of people who want you dead.

>>51474549
The twin towers still stand, hidden by the government.

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>>51484596
>https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Rod_of_Tentacles_(5e_Equipment)
>https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Golem,_Tentacle_(5e_Creature)
Oh, boy. It could work if the golem was nerfed a bit, and you actually would be able to escape its Engulf

>>51481156
Then you should have no problem providing proof.

>>51484596
I like those bomb-related classes

>>51485797
Well we all enjoy each others' company too much to drop out. It's a game on roll20 so it would be tricky to get it back up and running with a new GM. Especially because the most qualified guy isn't one we want to relegate to that role on account of his PC most likely getting neglected.