So what's the story behind this being a stereotype for bards?

>>51445714

Bard often end up being the party's heal sluts, so they tend to go full slut.

>>51445751
Confirming. Playing a bard. Ended up the party healslut.

I don't mind.

>>51445714
High charisma, chicks digs musicians, and the charming trickster angle.

>>51445714
Their main shtick is having a high charisma and convincing people to do things. So, naturally, people assume they're attractive and charming. And charming attractive people tend to have a lot of sex, at least as portrayed by most media. It's a natural progression really.

>>51445714
memes. high charisma means they can roll to seduce anything, and with the "roll a nat 20, break the universe" meme, they can seduce the world because lol epin meme

>>51445714

It's more the sort of person who plays a Bard tends to not always be the dude who wants to be the Bard, but the guy who thinks it's a guarantee of getting laid (plus it's a Charisma class).

Sorcerers and Paladins should pull more tail, honestly, but they tend to be played by people who actually want to blast and smite things instead of "lol I am a music man get on my dick and let me ruffle your anus while I link this Coldplay youtube and say it's what I'm singing during sex."

Yes, I knew someone who did that.

>>51445714
Rock stars.

>>51445714
I wonder what level of faggotry do you have to be to even consider looking up from that.

Anyway, I think it's mostly because instead of all the interesting directions the concept of 'magical musician' could have taken, bards were constantly represented as sort of scoundrels and medieval rockstars who swagger around with lutes and rapiers. So instead of a wandering skald, a knowledgeable sage of a foreign magical tradition or an enigmatic half-mundane enchanter, they're mostly the guy who dumps INT, parties hard and makes tavern wenches pregnant.

>>51445831
>Paladins should pull more tail
But muh chivalry and chasity

>>51445831

This, and they have a strong overlap with players who think Charm Person = Friends for Life and players who can't have an actual conversation beyond "I roll Diplomacy with Majestic Word and smile at the princess and kiss her hand and say 'milady u are so sugoi' I want to lick your tears away."

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>>51445918
>chastity
>required of the Designated Hero class

>>51445918
>and chasity
not all paladins, furthermore paladin's dick is also tool of justice and smiting

>>51445764
Frees up the rogue from eternal UMD support duty, frees the cleric of having to spend hours waving CLW wands instead of praying, and frees the wizard from having to devote all his mid- and low-level spells for utility. As far as 3e classes go bard is a pretty useful fifth member. Completely shit on his own, especially after 3.5 turned scrying into a spell, but it eases the pressure from every other party member.

Also a good cum catcher on those long, lonely expeditions. You're the only guy who has the time to pretty up every morning. Unless the party arcanist is a sorcerer. But then you can do each other's hair and share butt shaving tricks.

>>51445918
Half of all the adventures Arthurian knights got themselves into was because they were thinking with the small head.

>>51446060
I don't catch cum, but I do munch our fighter's rug.

But it's worth it because she keeps me safe. I'm too small to defend myself.

>>51446060
>3.5
>crossdressing

Jesus Christ you're a pathetic person.

>>51445714
It's probably caused by shitty artists.

>>51445959
Isn't that guy basically a rapist ? Doesn't sound like a "hero".

>>51446137
He saved the world/the pocket universe they're in multiple times through sexual violence.

If he's a rapist, the your regular hero's an assassin.

>>51446113
No he's not, he died for our sims.

>>51445714
Many medieval writings about bards fucking different women by being good a singing exist.

>>51446113
What, specifically, about 3.5 makes it immune to jokes about cross-dressing? I'm genuinely baffled by your ignorance. The setting that has a gender changing belt and often involves a party of all men, together for months upon months and separated from women and society?

It's a shitty meme perpetuated by shitty players who thing "I roll to seduce the monster" is the height of humor.

>>51446332
He's a wizard player and he's jelly about all the chic ballgown parties sorcs and bards have.

>>51446137

What's wrong with being a rapist if it saves the world? Murder saves the world all the time, and murder is worse than rape, isn't it?

>>51445714
Historically bards offered skilled entertainment that doesn't make them look foolish or scary and they typically work in establishments with lots of booze. If you don't see how that can inspire a high CHA class that tends to drop anchor in every port it comes across you need to get out a little more.

>>51446137
Morally reprehensible individual actions don't prevent someone from being labelled a hero.

>>51446332

3.5 is shit and so outdated that the only sort of person who plays it would have to be hardcore into WANTING caster supremacy.

Also a bunch of fat, sweaty neckbeards sitting around a table discussing how their characters become qt traps is absolutely cringey. Just get a fucking camp follower if you're going to pretend to be "devoted to realism". You can easily carry a Halfling woman around in a sack.

>>51446588
>sitting around a table
We have this thing called 'online RPGs'.

>>51446615
it's even worse, those fat fags don't even will ashamed to play qt traps if it's online

>>51445714
They're medieval rock stars.
Rock stars get incredibly slutty groupies that will ride their dicks simply because they're rich and famous not making them all that different from the average woman

>>51446137
This is Japan, the country where cultural marxism never took hold and rape is a form of saying hello.

>>51446194
That depends, as someone unfamiliar with the character, how necessary was the sex to save the world?

>>51446588
Ah, so your autism won't allow you accept the idea that 3.5 players aren't all greasy, fat neckbeard men, even for the premise of a joke. Interdasting...

>>51446555
>murder is worse than rape
Nope.

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>>51447121
>playing 3.5
>calling other people autistic

If you're claiming you're not, prove it yo.

>>51447172
Wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions

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>>51447172
>the cessation of existence entirely is not worse than a short interlude of pain and humiliation and possibly having abortion

Someone's drank the kool-aid.

>>51445751
>>51445764
Healslut is an mmo meme pls dont bring that /v/ tier garbage here.

>>51447216
>assuming I play 3.5 because I made a joke about another person playing 3.5
I don't even know what level of autism is necessary for this. A guy who wasn't even me made a joke about a bard in 3.5 being a party bicycle, and now I'm a greasy fat autistic 3.5 playing scumbag. I don't know who is autisming whom at his point.

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>>51447262
you can always kill yourself after rape

>>51447308
You can always kill yourself after failing a class too. Does this mean your ethics teacher is worse than Hitler?

>>51447262
There's a case to be made for forcing them to live with it or take themselves out, rather than outright killing them

That said, I'd still rate murder as outright worse. Maybe if you raped them every night, and didn't let them off themselves, it'd be worse?

>>51445831

Well I'm playing a female Paladin of a goddess of love in Hells Rebel. We're on part one and I can honestly say I have gotten exponentially more tail then the Bard.

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>>51446112
Nice

>>51447308
oops, wrong comment
>>51447172

>>51447307
>Ah, so your autism won't allow you accept the idea that 3.5 players aren't all greasy, fat neckbeard men, even for the premise of a joke. Interdasting...

But all 3.5 players are greasy martial-hating grognards, there is literally no other reason to play 3.5. Where's the joke in what you said? I mean, I can't read minds, but the only explanation is that you're tantruming because you're a sperglord.

>>51447402
>Paladin of a goddess of love
what's are even your paladins duties or job requirements?

>>51447367

By that point it's more or less torturing someone over an extended period for presumably no reason, which is pretty evil. The problem is, ultimately, whether you think motive matters more than outcome or not.

>>51447402

ERPy dyke or cockslut master race?

>>51447402

If that's a female Paladin and male Bard, no shit. He has to put in work because that's how human mating rituals work, you basically just have to open your legs.

>>51447575
> you basically just have to open your legs
not only that, being paladin makes her "higher value" than bard

>>51447491

Keeping swords well-sharpened. Polishing staves.

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>>51447575
>triple dubs

Kek confirms.

>>51447655
Kek's approval confirmed!

>>51447636
>>51447575

This. There's a reason why a male Bard, as cringey as he may be, gets a pint hoisted to him at the tavern. A female Bard is basically just a prostitute, if she's played straight.

>>51447304

I guess you could say the healslut meme *puts on glasses* gets around.

YEEEEEAAAAH!

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>>51447639
she probably does it for no monetary compensation

>>51447402
>Paladin of a goddess of love in Hells Rebel
Quite literally and not figuratively a battleslut

>>51447691
What if you play a female bard who's a virgin slayer, preying on young boys, chaste paladin and timid clerics? What if she also gets off on reverse NTR? What if she constantly bullies the party healer by groping his butt and telling him she eats innocent little boys like him raw?

Because apparently having a 22 Charisma means you're a braindead man slut.

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>>51445714
When did the lore for Gorgons change from "so ugly you turn to stone" to "eye contact turns you to stone"? Isn't a cute Gorgon like a tanned vampire?

>>51447655
,,,that ain't even single dubs, nigga.

Also, nice dubs, Kek blesses the morons.

>>51447762
>female bard who's a virgin slayer, preying on chaste paladin
oh look at the time, it's fap'o-clock

>>51445714
>be artsy
>be charismatic
>get pussy
it's a formula as old as time itself

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>>51447762

Then you're putting in work, so it's legit.

>>51447801
>lore for Gorgons change from "so ugly you turn to stone"
But it never was? Perseus could easily look at medusa's face( she's a gorgon) through reflection from a shield

Can you really ignore a medusa's gaze if you're staring at her tits?

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>>51447762
>unironically being into straight shota

>>51447867
I thought that worked because the reflection was distorted, thus blocking her full ugliness.

>>51447835
>artsy

No, it's all about being cool, not artsy, that's the mistake every numale makes. Be rich, be alpha, rock hard.

>>51447853
it's not really work if you just bully them into sex, unless you're talking about paladins and wizards that refuse having sex

>>51447805
>4 4
>75 75

Are you blind?

>>51445780
Traditionally this.

>>51447881
I'm not sure if looking at ANY part of her turns you into stone, but Perseus used her head only to turn other into stone. Meanwhile other parts lacked this power after her death, so maybe they never could during life, so yeah it's possible that if you stared at her tits you will survive

>>51447925

Chicks dig wealthy musicians. I've known an ungodly number of scraggly beta males who thought a guitar and a Che shirt could get them laid and were sadly disappointed.

>>51445714

Charisma class. The idea of musicians living the sex drugs and rock and roll lifestyle. No moral restrictions like people often associate with Paladins. Not creepy or dangerous social outcasts like Sorcerer or Warlock.

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In Russia, the term bard refers to an unshaven, smelly hiker who spends most of his time in remote tundra in the middle of nowhere, can play the guitar but not much else and sings poignant songs about woods, mountains and canned stew. This is the stereotype that I imagine whenever bards are mentioned, and I can't get it out of my head.

>>51447971
Chicks dig wealthy/powerful everything. You can be some scrawny beta neckbeard but if you somehow manage to become POTUS (that musts be one hell of a PR team backing you up!) you'll slay pussy left and right.

It's not so much about musicians as it is about womankind's parasitic instinct. Women cannot survive on their own, so they look for the mate that most guarantees the survival of themselves and their offspring.

It's just a meme like paladins and succubus and good necromancers

>>51447853
Scauce?

>>51448102
>paladins and succubus and good necromancers
1.paladin is a class
2.succubus is evil
3.necromancer can be good
neither of them are memes

>>51447110
Very

>>51445751
>>51445764
>Being a healslut bard
>Not just spamming shatter and call lighting
It's like you're a little bitch or something.

>>51448329
Why would anyone ever want to cast shatter? Anything worth destroying is magical and thus immune.

>>51448367
>what are editions other than 3.5

Why are you still playing 3.5?

>>51448439

Because the other versions may as well not exist.

>>51447882
I'm sorry about your shit taste.

>>51447262

Funnily enough I said the same thing IRL on my university campus.

Got a few death threats in the process.

>>51448470

Are you high or just trolling? 3.5 has been dead for years, more dead than 4e. It's all Pathfinder or (almost entirely) 5e now.

>>51448580
Don't worry, I'll protect you.

>>51448580

Campuses are progressive indoctrination centers these days, governed by socialists that can't survive outside of a greenhouse environment where they literally can't get fired.

>>51448605

I turned out fine. Hell my professor was with me the entire way ironically (was part of a presentation). Got an A for it regardless.

>>51448610

True, while there are some progressivism there I tend to think of it on the fairly light side at my school. I mean for gods sake the tenured professor who specializes in feminist at my university, who is a female, said the only way to 'save' feminism today was to completely dismantle it and restart from the ground up due to the changes from when it started to the modern society today, otherwise it would self-destruct.

Which is a shame as that was probably the only time I ever wanted to take a feminism class, but I graduated before I could go to any of her classes beyond a simple presentation shortly after her tenure status.

>>51447491
Shelyn is the goddess of art and beauty too, so the paladin's job would be defending love, art, aesthetically pleasing things, and so forth from harm, promoting the creation of wonderful things like the previously mentioned art, beauty, and love, and promoting harmony and avoiding violence where possible. The Shelynite paladin strives to convince the enemy to stand down, and to make peace, before resorting to the blade.

>>51448329
I dunno, I have a lot more things than just healing. It just happens that one of the many things I can do includes healing, moreso than any other party member can.

>>51447853
Thanks for the laugh. And the pic. Been looking for that one.

>>51447916
I think what he meant is that the concept is different enough to be legit.

>>51447110
Between games, it varies from "Somewhat necessary" to "Absolutely vital to the continued existence of humanity".

Several times he only finds out about the thing that he has to kill to save the world because of who his dick is in.

>>51445714
IIRC, in DnD 3.0 (last version I played) you could (at level one) have a Half Elf Bard with 18 Charisma (+4 to rolls), Racial +2 Bonus to Diplomacy based/related skills (Bluff, Diplomacy, etc), max ranks (for level one) in Bluff/Diplomacy/Inimidate/etc (for another +6) for a grand total of +12 to just about every Charisma related roll/skill check you could think of. And thats all before factoring in gaining levels, feats, masterwork instruments, fine clothes and so on.
Combined with the fact that the higher your charisma equals the more attractive you are, well you get the idea.

>>51447356
>Does this mean your ethics teacher is worse than Hitler
I could use Kantian logic to make a very good argument towards such a statement.

>>51449286
Please do, Kant is always good for a laugh.

>>51445751
>implying

My bard is the party face/buffer/minor summoner.

>>51449274
>that the higher your charisma equals the more attractive you are, well you get the idea.
Technically this isn't true, at least in 5E, it's just how it tends to manifest.

Charisma is force of personality in 5E, not so much being attractive. You can be a pretty face and have a garbage Charisma score, resulting in being bland as a rock despite how beautiful you are. On the other hand, you can be an ugly-as-sin orc or whatever and be the most amazing orator to ever live.

>>51445714
Trubadores were renowned for writing romance songs about women they banged or wanna bang but can't cuz the chick is a noblewoman.

>>51449286
I bet you kant.

>>51446137
His armour has a release cord

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>>51446200
I see why you did there

>>51445714
its more of a joke about women of all race/culture sleeping with anyone who can play music.

>>51447971
Its less the wealth than charisma. Scraggly beta males with a guitar and che shirt aren't charismatic in the least. Poor people can get laid easily enough they just need to be attractive and charismatic enough.

>>51448182
I think he meant pairing paladins with succubi.

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This is how I bard

>>51449690
Fucking courtly love

>>51448096
>beta neckbeard
>womankind's parasitic instinct
>Women cannot survive on their own

Ok, /pol/.

>>51448747
>FemProf

Oh god, an actual paleo-Feminist. It's a thing of goddamn beauty.

>>51449274
>Combined with the fact that the higher your charisma equals the more attractive you are, well you get the idea.

No it doesn't, and you're just the kind of person >>51445921 was talking about.

Numbers shmumbers. It's autists like you who play Bards and go "I-I-I made a big number daddy DM does that mean s-s-s-she bangs me?" That need to fuck off and die. Instruments, fine clothes, none of that shit matters for getting a proper waifu if you can't talk to her.

>playing 3.0

Cancer leave.

>>51449274

No. You could be perceived as very likable despite the retard-speak you spew with that minmaxed diplomacy number (in the same way that pugs are adorable and look retarded), but that just means the princess friendzones you and fucks Sir Chad Lancethrob of Coxbury on the reg unless you step your game up and seduce her, and that takes more than a Diplo roll.

>>51445714
Uh. That's odd, I thought I'd seen all pieces by that artist, yet this one is new to me, despite apparently being from 2013.
Source? (Tried the link in the picture, seems to be dead).

>>51445714
Where do you find these?

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>>51447172

>>51449286
>using Kant to justify anything
I sincerely hope you get beaten to death with your dad's dildo

>>51447882
The jpg you used is so goddamn ironic it hurts

>>51450546
Turn the succubi to the path of good with the power of your holy dick.

>>51453743
>30 seconds
God, and I though I was a quickshot ...

>>51453743
Jesus Christ is that saying what I think it's saying? Surely this is a false flag, no self-respecting political movement would try to play down rape, and I seriously can't imagine anyone suggesting the life of a rapist is worth more than the prevention of a violent rape.

>>51448580
>Got a few death threats in the process.
I guess you are lucky you didn't get any rape threads.

>>51454070
Silly anon, men - and especially white men - can't be raped, or oppressed. Think of their privilege as bonus HP, whatever you do to them doesn't really count or hurt them. This is why they're perfect for chaining up in your basement

>>51447801
The old mythos for the Gorgons were three sisters who lived...somewhere.
Basically, one of them, the one who had caused this change from human to monster, was called Medusa.
Medusa was originally fucking hot, and as such was dating Poseidon, and they were having an affair in Athena's temple.(I think it was athena, could have been Hera)
Basically, Athena is PISSED, cause she hates the poncy hippie surfer, she kick the door down and transforms Medusa into a monster with snakes for hair and scaly skin. Her appearance was considered to be so frightening, her gaze would turn people to stone. However, reflective surfaces negate this issue of gaze, and only her eyes were considered to be needed for this, allowing the assassination of the main human villain of the story.
Basically, the only defining characteristics are snake hair and scaly skin. And gorgon's technically shouldn't even turn people to stone, only medusa. However, assuming no further changes occurred, medusa at least would in fact probably be QUITE eye catching, meaning that the OPs image post is, greek lore wise, accurate to the defined story.
Hopefully this should clear this up.

>>51454039
Unsurprisingly, /k/ made it. They did post it to the Brady Bunch's Facebook page and it stayed up for awhile. Long enough for the internet to freak out and Snopes had to debunk it.

>>51454089
I could start a riot by telling a campus cunt who got raped by a black guy "You can't be raped by a black man, rape is power + misogyny and black men do not have power"

The word Bard comes from an ancient irish word for poets and storytellers.

The Stereotype of Bards as image comes from the XII century guys known as Juglares https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mester_de_Juglar%C3%ADa.

The womanizer thing probably comes by the attraction musicians project over women since the dawn of men. Also, the Juglares invented the Courtly Love genre; which imposed in the collective minds the view of romantic love over the preexisting arranged marriage.

and, by the way, this: >>51453942

>>51454039
Its a play down of the obsession some country has over guns, for the need to protect themselves.
To explain the obvious intention.
Rape is bad, so people carry guns, to prevent this rape with these guns.
Guns, especially pistols, have a habit of needing a lot of care as they can go off relatively easily.
When guns are used, they tend to kill people.
A lot of people carrying guns to prevent rape and such, are often unfit to carry these guns, and cause accidents, which tend to result in death or serious, life changing injury.
The idea is that, the possibility of being raped, or some such is horrifying, but carrying a pistol around isn't the answer, as these pistols often discharge accidentally, which could kill or main you or someone else.
Leave the gun, the low chance of rape is better then the higher chance of killing yourself or someone else through poor gun safety.
Stop being such a SJW about this, besides, you are suggesting that murder is morally better then Rape, and that it is acceptable and the right thing to do to kill someone because you guessed their intentions were momentarily unpleasant to you. The only way you could tell for sure is if they actually raped you, then the kill would be just out of spite, which is very morally wrong.
Rape is by no means pretty, but don't get so worked up about it that you fail to recognise there are things worse then rape.

>>51454092

Isn't there a version where she was a priestess of Athena and was raped in Athena's temple? Athena was pissed, I think because she wasn't a virgin now, and then cursed her.

I know what is someone's origin. I just can't remember who.

>>51454201
Mate, I have had black dudes in my face threatening my life for telling them to fuck off over their entitled Rhodes must fall bullshit. In person too. Don't try to use the SJW buzzword on me. Murder and self defense are not the same thing, and it is possible to accurately gauge intentions without those intentions having been carried out, how retarded do you have to be not to realise that? And in South Africa, where I live, violent rape is more often than not followed with murder so the point is moot, it's literally a case of run away, kill, or be killed. Besides the fact that you are very likely going to be murdered, I would fully advocate the use of a gun in self defense even if a woman (somehow) knew her life was not in danger but a rape was guaranteed. And before you start on some bullshit tangent, no I do not include marital or similar kinds of rape in this statement, I am talking about stuff like that time a couple of months ago where three guys pinned a 14 or 15 year old girl (a virgin, by the way) down in Newlands Forest, raped every orifice, then strangled her to death. And, to be perfectly honest, killing the convicted "out of spite" in a case like that would be a definite net benefit to society, so I'm all for it.

Besides, as >>51454101 already stated, it was a false flag.

>>51447262
According to National Statistics;
>The chances that a woman will develop Post Traumatic Stress Disorder after being raped are 50-90%. Rape victims are four times more likely to have contemplated suicide after the rape than non-crime victims, and 13 times more likely than non-crime victims to have attempted suicide.
So, take it as you will.

>>51445751
I don't understand. I thought it was clerics who ended up doing most of the healing.

>>51454300
And murder victims don't get a choice.
Take that as you will.

>>51454300
According to National Statistics;
>100% of killed humans stayed dead and never came back.
Please refrain to reply Jesus.

>>51454344
Do we count Rasputin's first three times as "not successfully killed"?

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Bards are unique in most classes in that they are fluffed as essentially being the life of the party. Other classes could be, but it's not as central to their identity. Other Charisma-based classes could be bisexual tyrannosauruses in their own right, but their charisma is fluffed as being a holy aura or otherworldly presence. The bards are the ones that are supposed to just know how to talk to people, the right things to say, and maybe most importantly, know every other tavern wench in the realm.

>>51449184
>is different enough to be legit.
What is it different from male bard preying on children 12+

>>51454300
I was one of them, still am but I don't freak out if someone prods me.

But I would swear on a bible in front of my priest that it was my parents freaking the fuck out, crying over it, and even going as far as smashing things in the house to cope with the fact I was raped that caused the worst of my hangups.

The people who make mountains out of it are the biggest cause of a rape victim's problems after the fact.

>>51454300
What are the initial odds of developing PTSD and attempting suicide? zero + 100% is still zero.

>>51445714
Cannot believe no one said it but look at the old stories- Robin Hood had Will Scarlet, original party bard

>>51454103
No no, him being a man overrides him being black. Black.men are only under privileged when compared to white men.

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When a rapist only has fun for a short time, is it really right to lock him away for years?

>>51454716
He seems like a nice lad, why would you want to lock him? The country needs more good swimmers

>>51454344
I used to work with a man who had been declared dead 3 times in a "heart has stopped beating" kind of way. In all fairness he did win that fight. He eventually got back up [/spoiler]the car was scrapped[/spoiler].

>>51454716
He never raped anyone though. He put a finger in a vagina.

There was zero semen in that bitch. And zero vaginal DNA on his penis. His penis never came in contact with her.

People might say "w-well fingerblasting is rape!" but in the state that this occurred, "Digital penetration", aka fingerbanging, is not "legal rape" by any definition.

tl;dr, he got a light sentence for sexual assault because there was no rape.

Also fun was that she served him alcohol at the party and Brock was underaged and not legally able to drink while she was.

JUST SAYIN'.

>>51446137
You should check out some of the greek "heroes" then.

Rance is a lot more like them than the more modern understanding of "heroes."

>>51454760
Got any sources on this because I didn't really pay much attention to this case and I have no way of knowing if this is true

>>51454739
https://www.collegeswimming.com/swimmer/179695/

Great swimmer

>>51454760
>only dick in vagina is rape

Hello tumblr, strange to see you out of your safe space

>>51454772
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner

>People v. Turner, formally People of the State of California v. Brock Allen Turner (2015), was a criminal case filed in Santa Clara County Superior Court which convicted Brock Allen Turner of three counts of felony sexual assault. Turner was a student athlete at Stanford University on January 18, 2015, when he sexually penetrated an intoxicated and unconscious 22-year-old[1][2][3] woman (later called "Emily Doe"[4]) with his fingers.[5][6][7][8][9]

[5]

>A red-brown substance that the criminalist said resembles blood and contains the woman's DNA was found under Turner's fingernails on his right and left hands and part of his right finger, Lee said. The substance was similar in color to a fluid taken from her vagina, he said, bolstering the prosecution's argument that he digitally penetrated her. However, the criminalist told the Santa Clara County Superior Court jury there is no way to tell definitively if it was blood. He also acknowledged under cross-examination by defense attorney Armstrong that the tests do not show when the DNA was deposited. On Friday, the Palo Alto woman was in tears as she testified that she woke up in the hospital with pine needles in her disheveled hair, dried blood on her hands and elbows

>>51454780
You'll notice he was very specific to indicate LEGALLY. I don't care what you casually consider to be rape, or personally consider to be rape.

You cannot prosecute someone for crimes as-you-consider-them. The letter of the law has clear definitions as to what is and is not rape. It has nothing to do with my feelings or my opinion.

If the law states that penile penetration into an orifice is required for rape, then that IS what legally can be punished for rape. Not finger blasting, not oral, not hurting your feelings, or catcalling you.

>>51447535
Motive matters for how evil the perpetrator is.

But ultimately I'd still consider murder the worse that even extended rape-torture. At the end of the day a rape victim is still around, they can still go home and (potentially) recover and keep livi n g and enjoying their life.
But once your dead that's it, there's nothing else.

This view may be biased by my belief that there is no afterlife.

>>51454788
Intredasting.

>>51454803
>Rape in the United States is defined by the Department of Justice as "Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim."

Whoopsie doodle.

>>51454788
>>51454760
So an older woman, her self intoxicated, plys child with drink and then the two equally sloshed idiots do the horizontal tango. And she, the instigator, complains.

>>51454780
Mate, tumblr thinks that manspreading is equivalent to rape. If you're trying to be edgy for the sake of an insult you could call him a MRA or Alt-right or some other buzzword, but not tumblr

>>51454788
The part that blows my mind is that she's able to have her name a secret when accusing a man of a crime.

Regardless if he's guilty or not, she's not an underaged child. She's 22. In the legal system where someone is considered innocent until proven guilty, how the fuck can someone accusing you of a crime get *their* name redacted from all media and get your own personal secrecy, but whoever you accused of whatever you want is going to get raked through the fucking mud and have your face plastered everywhere?

That's some definite bullshit.

>>51454816

You forgot to include the rest of that.

>While definitions and terminology of rape vary by jurisdiction in the United States, the FBI revised its definition to eliminate a requirement that the crime involve an element of force.

>While definitions and terminology of rape vary by jurisdiction in the United States

>vary by jurisdiction

This wasn't a Federal rape case.

>>51454821
Her sister even left her there at the party and saw her giving Brock drinks and was like "LOL WOW" and she has a boyfriend. 1000% she knew what she did and was horrified her boyfriend was going to find out she was trying to fuck this kid and cried rape.

>>51454816
>>51454841

Technically there's no such thing as a federal rape case either.

>Because the United States comprises 51 jurisdictions, each with its own criminal code, this section treats only the crime of rape in the federal courts and does not deal with state-by-state specifics. Federal law does not use the term "rape". Rape is grouped with all forms of non-consensual sexual acts under chapter 109a of the United States Code (18 U.S.C. §§ 2241–2248

The definition they provided is only what the FBI considers rape, and the FBI does not create the law by any stretch of the imagination.

>>51448075
That's also the best bardic stereotype I've ever heard of.

> I is Ivan the deviant. let me sing to you from beauty of glorious russian hunt for potatoes by hero mosin nagant

>>51454201
could someone be any more wrong?

>>51454907
You could.

>>51452232
I don't think there is an actual source, these just seem to be popping out of nowhere...

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>>51454201
>~500 accidental firearm discharge deaths annually

>~80k rapes/rape attempts annually

>Leave your guns at home, rape happens way less often than accidental gun deaths

So you're trolling right

>>51454853
I wonder what would have happened if Brock, legally a child, had got to the police first saying he had been drugged and sexually assaulted by an adult.

I suspect sweet fuck all. I've seen this played out before IRL

>>51454350
>Bard gets all the attention
>In a party with a bipedal Triceratops

The power of Charisma people

>>51454139
>since the dawn of men

At one time musicians were low-class slaves

>linking to Hipster Time

Fuck off faggot.

>>51454300

PTSD is the fashionable new thing to overdiagnose.

>>51454947
Rape, like murder, is seldom a matter of strangers. So leave your guns at home, that's where you'll need them to fight off the rapist.

>>51454943

Memes no longer require an origin. We have moved beyond.

>>51455126
Didn't some feminist get PTSD after seeing one too many shitpost?

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>>51455201
Yes.

Nothing like tumblrtards to trivialize something harrowing for their own snowflake needs.

>>51454248
Yes. She was so beautiful that everyone, including Poseidon, fell in love with her, but she denied them all. So Poseidon raped her in one of Athene's temples. Athene, as virgin goddess, got so pissed over the defilement, she cursed Medusa.
In another variation, the three are simply hideous, chtonic beasts by nature with Medusa simply drawing the short straw of mortality.

>>51455346
And lesson to learn from this is don't get raped

>>51445918
Chastity =/= celibacy
Chastity is logically an attractor - once you're with the paladin, that's it, they're yours, you're theirs

>>51454300
>woman
They develop "PTSD" out of being alive.

>>51454833
The media is cutting their loses. If the cunt had won she would be plastered averywhere as a hero of modern feminism. But she lost and so they're doing all they can to prevent the poblic from knowing she's in fact a statutory rapist that intoxicates minors and cries rape afterwards.

My bard is my follower. He has a high charisma but an even higher intelligence. He almost never heals anyone (except with scrolls he makes after battles), he just stands around and buffs people. However his main thing is knowledge checks, by the time he was 12th level he was hitting 55s in four knowledge skills. It has gotten so bad and I have abused the DM with knowledge checks he has given up with making me roll knowledge checks, we will just ask him a question and he will say "for some reason the bard knows....".

>>51454300
I'm pretty sure even the autists at /r9k/ have an higher suicide chance

>>51455346
It might not have been done entirely out of cruelty.

Athena couldn't get back at Poseidon directly because Poseidon was stronger than her and a complete psychopath. So she turned Medusa into a Gorgon.

Would Poseidon have turned to stone if he looked upon her? Who knows. Poseidon didn't know and crazy as he was it wasn't something he wanted to experiment with so Medusa was safe from him.

It's also worth noting that the curse only turned men to stone. I don't think it worked on women.

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Are female bards just as slutty as male ones?

Dumpan bard pics

>>51456281
Oh, i saw him in real ~15 years ago.
He was playing on the streets of Danzig

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and now, lady bards

>>51454760
Oh, I thought it was the one where they were both drunk and wanted to fuck, but she passed out, then the two guys showed up, he being drunk ran, and she cried rape because she woke up in an alley.

>>51456271
yes, but only with higher status men like knights, captains, governors, princes, kings.

>>51456196
Idk, in this version she doesn't just curse her with the petrifying gaze, she also makes her absolutely hideous. In the version of >>51447801 Poseidon and Medusa were lovers but Medusa's beauty is not directly mentioned, she might have been a chtonic beast already and Athene just cursed her with the gaze to seperate them. It's not like Greek gods are overly picky (unless they turn to stone).
Anyhow, Medusa's story has a dozen different versions and makes her actually quite interesting character beyond the woman with snake hair trope.

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>>51456412
>they don't like getting railed by low-born scum and non-humans

ruins the fantasy for me

>>51456430
>railed by low-born scum and non-humans
you don't need to be bard to do that, it takes no skill to hook lowborn scum, furthermore dangerous for bard herself as she steps on prostitute territory and they don't like competition

>>51455864
So you reckon you wouldn't get PTSD if some dude pinned you to a wall and shoved his dick up your ass?

>>51447356
I mean, give me an hour and I can make a case for my 3rd grade math teacher having been literally Hitler.

>>51456506
anon would probably get an erection if that happened, it's why he wears a dress after all.

>>51456506
>missing the joke
hi fella, how's your first day here ?

>>51445714
Bards are often associated with the following.
>Musician
>High charisma
>Social skills
All of these leads to puss puss.

>>51453743
>we oughta rape instead of shoot each other.

>>51456506
If it was so bad ex-convict suicide rates would be higher.
Women just can't stand losing their power over the sex game for 10 minutes.

>>51447971
I dunno, the only success I've ever had with girls has been in the time I was in a garage band with some friends. I don't think that's just a coincidence.

Granted, the effect is certainly more pronounced for wealthy, successful musicians, but just being a musician is certainly a benefit no matter what.

>>51447304
Confirmed for never playing a tabletop in his life

This thread was shit from the start but you fucks went all /r9k/ on it too.

Kill yourselves.

>>51457800
>every convict gets raped in prison
Anon, I...

>>51455080
Would you actually want to talk to a dinoman?

>>51458261

yeah, what if he tells everyone to get on the floor?

>>51458151
Well, I DO play tabletops, and I've never seen a healslut, male or female. But then again, I don't play dnd or pathfinder.

>>51453848
Really? I didn't think Romans had a reputation for straight shota.

>>51458571

Emperor Hadrian was married to a grown adult guy tho.

He was "cursed" by Hera so every female in the universe wants to bone him. It leaves a mark after a while.

>>51458215
Enough convicts get raped in prison for any behavioural deviation to be visible on the total carceral population.

>>51459057
Can't be bothered to dig through the statistics more but here, for England:

https://www.rt.com/uk/230875-prison-sexual-aggression-links/
So 1% of men in prison are raped, with a further 5.3% being coerced into sex. Keep in mind that this is RT, if they have a bias in this regard, it's towards higher numbers.

http://www.medicaldaily.com/suicide-rates-among-released-male-prisoners-8-times-higher-national-average-mental-347170
And ex convicts have an 8 times higher suicide rate than the average.

http://www.samaritans.org/about-us/our-research/facts-and-figures-about-suicide
So the national average is 0.0108% overall, meaning prisoners have a rate of 0.0864%. The suicide rate for women is 0.0052%. The sexual assault rate in women overall is approximately 25% (http://rapecrisis.org.uk/statistics.php), and the amount of woman raped from 2006-7 equaled 0.5% of the female population (http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20101208185558/http://rds.homeoffice.gov.uk/rds/pdfs08/hosb0308.pdf). Keep in mind that the 0.5% figure is purely the amount of women who had a man stick his dick in them against their will, we're excluding all other sorts of unwanted penetration.

So ex convicts are committing suicide, far, far more than women, particularly in comparison to the rape statistics. Unfortunately I couldn't find a survey for suicide rates among victims of rape specifically, but basically you're talking out your arse. The behavioural deviation is visible you twat.

>>51445714
Back when D&D had its early peak Glam rock was also popular...

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>>51447172

>>51445918
"Chastity" historically didn't mean "don't have sex", it meant "be faithful to your partners and don't do casual sex"

>>51459534
I'm not the anon you were replying to initially. I just found your greentext comment very stupid.
As you said it yourself, no need for every man in prison to be raped for the deviation to be visible.

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>>51454403
And here we have the math genius that can't get the difference between adding and multiplication. I'm sure your parents are so proud.

>>51457800
Pretty much this.

>>51460420
Or that the deviation is related to something other than or in addition to rape. I somehow doubt what appears to be less than 10% of the ex convict population that were raped is responsible for the 8x increase seen across the entire ex convict population.

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>>51447172
You are wrong.

If rape is worse than murder, why can I force someone to let me rape them at gunpoint? If rape is worse than murder, why aren't wars fought via rape? Why don't I mug someone at dickpoint instead of knifepoint?

>>51461682
>If rape is worse than murder, why aren't wars fought via rape? Why don't I mug someone at dickpoint instead of knifepoint?

While I will grant you that rape-based weapon technology and warfare has not been studied sufficiently to rule out its effectiveness, I do not think it will ever surpass current options.

>>51462032
So what you're telling me is that murder is a more effective way of preventing someone from continuing to act?

>>51460793
>>51457800
See >>51459534

>>51461682
>why don't I mug someone at dickpoint instead of knifepoint

Waaaait, have I been doing my robberies the wrong way all along? It has always worked out fine for me. Best case scenario, I get money, worst case scenario, I get sex. It's like prostitution where I am both the client and the whore.

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>>51445828
>they can seduce the world
That would've been a more creative final battle for part 3 IMHO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LyuIVZk5FM

>>51454403
What the medical fuck? It's like you have no idea how maths or even words work.

>>51447172
>>murder is worse than rape
>Nope.

The Vikings, one of the murder and rapiest cultures out there thought that rape was worse than murder.

If you murdered some other dude, you paid a fine to his family.
If you raped a woman, you were executed.
(A viking woman, crimes didn't count against non-persons, like non-vikiings)

>>51457800
Women and men probably also react to PTSD in different ways. I think for guys it's more shameful to admit that sort of weakness, while for women it's something they don't mind 'cashing in' on.

>>51451699
>Sir Chad Lancethrob of Coxbury

Got my next character idea

>>51448182
3 is the biggest meme ever.

>>51448367
You combo it with dispel magic.

Also scrolls, wands, spellbooks, holy symbols, component pouches, etc are not magical.

>>51455946
I really don't get the Bards being the pinnacle of knowledge meme. They hear all their stories in taverns, surely a fucking credible and likely place to get verifiable information?

>>51456355
that's actually a monk disguising herself as a bard.

>>51463097
>If you murdered some other dude, you paid a fine to his family.

I understood the weregild to be a method of stopping/preventing cyclic death feuds due to there being no legal difference between murder, manslaughter and accidental death at the time. If the weregild was not paid the victim's family were legally allowed to kill the believed killer.

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>>51455257
Ohhh boy, I sure hope we get full dive VR soon so we can make tumblrtards experience a day in the sunny fields of passchendaele in 1917.
Because goddamit they overuse that diagnosis.

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>>51447172

>>51446137

He's the logical conclusion of what happens when your universe runs on a karma checkbook like Fallout and does enough heroics to balance out the fact he's a rapist that he still manages to nominally be considered a "good guy".

The moment he hit the D&D multiverse, he'd fall faster than a paladin locked in a safe made of lead.

>>51454780
That's the fucking opposite of Tumblr, the hell are you talking about? Those loons believe having your legs spread slightly on the train is rape.

>>51465146
>If the weregild was not paid the victim's family were legally allowed to kill the believed killer.
Yeah, because skipping out on a debt was also legally worse than killing someone.

>>51456412
And most women.
They don't need to hold out for Highborn women. You see they don't have to worry about another woman knocking them up, but if your going to run the risk of getting knocked up get knocked up with someones kid that will bring you money.

>>51445714

> Status effect: Petrification of the nether regions.

>>51451387
Name 1,488 examples to the contrary.

>>51446113
>implying braiding hair is crossdressing

Tell that to all the niggers with cornrows, I dare you.

>>51451178
All I can see is
>giving ghosts blowjobs

>>51466182
>Those loons believe having your legs spread slightly on the train is rape.
Source?

It's not I don't believe you, It's that I need something to laugh at.

>>51445751
>unironically believing /v/ memes


/tg/ always portrayed bards as abusing their CHA for seduction rolls, hence OP pic type stuff.

>>51451699
>pugs are adorable
Pugs are disgusting.

>>51454201
>the kill would be just out of spite, which is very morally wrong.
Speak for yourself.

>>51471448
Google "manspreading"

>>51454300
I wonder how big of a part social pressure plays in this.

>>51454393
This. Feminists and SJWs have become the hype men of rape, pushing for its status as the worst possible thing that can happen to an individual (by which I mean a woman - male rape is more of a funny joke).

I guarantee that if you give me a knife, a lighter and a roll of duct tape, I can make just about anyone wish I'd just raped them for 15 or so minutes instead.

>>51454803
>You cannot prosecute someone for crimes as-you-consider-them. The letter of the law has clear definitions as to what is and is not rape. It has nothing to do with my feelings or my opinion.

Not exactly true. The judge and jury have a lot of leeway in how they interpret a case.

>>51456506
I, for one, seriously doubt I would. I've already been pretty much as angry, afraid and miserable as is humanly possible, and it didn't give me PTSD. Mostly, I think I'd just go see a doctor; the things I'd be most worried about in that situation are rectal incontinence and AIDS, in that order.

>>51466246
What if you just kill your creditors?

What happens if you kill someone, then when they demand the weregild, you kill their entire family?

>>51454248
Sure there's a version of that.
It's the 2010 film "Clash of the Titans", which goes to almost cringeworthy levels to depict the Greek Gods as even bigger assholes than normal. The original stpry doesn't say anything about rape being involved, it's just an attempt to make things edgier.

Also, they were some sort of sea nymphs. Not exactly priestess material.

>>51454403
Zero + 100% = 100%
Zero * 100% = 0%

F- see me after class, anon.

>>51454760
>vaginal DNA

>>51472743
I was incorrect.

This isn't funny. It's pathetic.

These people must wake up in the morning with the intention of looking for ways to be victims.

>>51445714
> So what's the story behind this being a stereotype for bards? Aren't they just people who play music?
High Charisma + "I seduce the barmaid" = man-slut.

>>51473070
Yeah? Good job figuring it out, I guess.

>>51473070
Welcome to tumblrland, anon

>>51472952
Well zero+100%(of zero)=zero.

>>51447172
Would it be morally justified for the perp to murder their victims after rape to be more humane? Should rape victims be exectued since it's less worse that way?

>>51456506
Oh, is that what happened to every woman?
Also, assuming a girl isn't into that

>>51473372
Since the person you're ending is not going to experience its own nonexistence, killing rape victims is just briefly compounding one horrific injury with another.

>>51447172
I'll believe you when I see a murder victim support group.

Now there's an interesting aspect of DnD: in a world where resurrection is possible, there are in fact murder victim support groups.

>>51472743

...you have got to be shitting me.

>>51445714
I really hope Fredrik isn't dead.

>>51447262
Eh, I can buy it as being more intrinsically evil than murder.

Murder is a worse thing to do to a person, as you are nullifying their existence with no hope of recovery. However, there are instances where killing is morally the right thing to do or is required. Fighting for your freedom, your survival, or for the greater survival of humanity may involve killing, in which case it is regrettable but not something you'd condemn a person for.

On the other hand, there's basically no situation where rape is the 'right' thing to do. The only reason you're ever going to do it is for your own enjoyment, at the expense of somebody else.

>>51453743
>>51454039
>>51454101
No, the Brady Bunch reposted it, meaning at least one social media intern was either a double agent or actually agreed with that shit.

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>>51447172
What the fuck

>>51474278
>The only reason you're ever going to do it is for your own enjoyment, at the expense of somebody else.
>for your own enjoyment, at the expense of somebody else.

You know from how convicts treat them, I'd always suspected that rapists were the That Guys of crime

>>51447881
Pretty sure it wasn't making eye contact that did it, just her gaze falling on you was enough. Perseus used her head to turn an entire room of dudes to stone, so I'm assuming that every single one of them didn't look into the eyes of the decapitated snake lady

>>51474471
They kinda are.

There are a million reasons why you might murder someone. Because you're desperate or feel threatened somehow, because you defended yourself in a fight and went too far, because you were betrayed immensely and acted on pure bloody impulse, because you're a soldier and it's your job, because you're trying to stop someone from doing something worse, because you've been wronged and need vengeance, etc.

Rape requires intentional, sustained malice. It requires that you want to hurt someone in order to get enjoyment from it. Some murderers are also like this, but ALL rapists are like this.

>>51448580
Hang on, I'm confused about which thing you said.

>>51454300
Do these statistics take into account the persons who are more likely to be raped are vulnerable/abused or in other poor circumstances compared to a general populace? Not arguing, genuine query.

>>51448096
>Women's parasitic instinct

Ow. Cut myself on your post.

>>51445918
I once played a not!Viking paladin who dispatched foes with extreme brutality and zero qualms about chivalry, went on long drinking sprees and blatantly abused his immunity to diseases and ridiculous physical stats to visit every whorehouse along the road, because "a man has needs that have to be satisfied, or they will be a distraction". His concept of honor was "keep your word, don't let your friends down, don't fight if you don't have to, fight to win if you have". Great times.