This is a purposeful self reference right?

>>51422491
It's to prevent Alpha Legion infiltration. The higher ups in the Imperium knew if they named a regiment that, Alpha Legion cells looking to infiltrate would just assume another cell beat them to it.

>>51422518
ha

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>>51423056
>trying to make a phonecall with all those Banshees around

No wonder they hate xenos.

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>>51422491
I really wish the current Stormtroopers had some actual personality and were based off existing spec-ops organizations.

>>51424245
Don't forget Eldar using them for jumping very high.

>>51425108
There's no reason Your Dudes can't be. All the codex talks about is how the Schola breaks down individual identity to hone the pupils' killer instincts and their dedication to the group and the mission, which is kind of what military training does today, to say nothing of special operations groups.

>>51425108
>Don't forget Eldar using them for jumping very high.

Please, they love it.

It's the most attention they've gotten from the opposite sex since most of the girls got sorted into Sisterhood paths at the Schola.

>>51426408
Man, the Imperium's most elite military institutions really are sausage fests.

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>>51426426
There might be one or two chicks in there. Probably grumbling about how they just HAD to get sortied in with Banshees, the only Aspect where tits are mandatory.

This is before Feanolfin the Banshee removes his betitted armour and reveals that half the Aspect Warriors are chiselled dudes that are just really big on the whole method acting thing.

From that point on the heretical thoughts never stop.

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>>51422518
...Does this mean that everything NOT obviously Alpha Legion is Alpha Legion?

>>51427042
Yes

>>51427042
No

>>51427042
Maybe

>>51427042
I don't know...can you repeat the question?

>>51427042
But wait if everything that is obviously Alpha Legion isn't it, then is the Alpha Legion Alpha Legion or have they just never existed.

>>51427231
Alpha Legion exists, but none of the members of Alpha Legion are IN Alpha Legion, they're all off infiltrating other groups.

When you try and call them it always goes to answerphone, no exception.

>>51422518
>>51427042
>>51427075
>>51427142
>>51427159
>>51427208
>every Imperial institution with a normal name is an Alpha Legion cell
>none of them know who else is loyal and who is traitor, so they continue the war against Chaos anyway
>the only loyal institutions are those with ridiculously obvious Alpha Legion names, as the infiltrators assume these must have been compromised already
>the real Alpha Legion cells are amazed that these super obvious cells stay hidden somehow and assume they must be truly godlike at their jobs, so they don't investigate them for fear of ruining the magic

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>>51427300
A masterful plan only a genius could've created! When everyone is spy, no one is!

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>>51422518
Oh me oh my.

>>51427381
>French Alpha Legion

No wonder everyone hates us. At least we return the hate in kind, while our style and cuisine seeps into other countries culture!

Soon, ALL will bow to the baguette!

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>>51427442
Shush Alpharhon, or you'll be next!

>>51427381
So.. everything is just.. as.. planned?

>>51427532
Illicit Stormtrooper/Banshee relations and Alpha Legion Imperium?

Yes, that probably IS the best thing on /tg/ right now.

Also, it seems clear now that the Alpha Legion is part of a sinister conspiracy to mingle our brave stormtroopers with vile xenos. They're probably responsible for all this End Times superfriends shit.

>>51427503
It would be...if anyone remembered what the plan was supposed to be.

So far plan is:
1. Pretend to turn to chaos
2. Infiltrate major and minor Imperial Institutions
3. Spread discord amongst Imperium through infiltration cells
4.???
5. SAVE THE IMPERIUM!

Now if only we could figure out what 4 is supposed to be.

>>51426282
Well I would love to play a Razvedki Scion army.

>>51427300
So everyone apart of them are Alpha Legion sleeper agents?

DOES THIS MEAN THE EMPEROR IS ACTUALLY NOT THE EMPEROR?

>>51427573

>Illicit Stormtrooper/Banshee relations

>I'd always thought the Eldar were xenos filth, but at long last I know that Love Can Bloom On The Battlefield: A Warhammer 40,000 Story from Black Library, a Division of Games Workshop, available soon on Black Library Audiobook

Jesus Christ GW, really?

Am I alpharius?

>>51427810
>The Emperor was never on the Golden Throne
>Horus killed an Alpha Legionnaire in a coat of gold paint
>Big E has been crashing at Eldrad's place with the Silent King and Malal since his deadbeat sons turned out to be a huge disappointment
>The End Times is about getting him to stop watching F.R.I.E.N.D.S. reruns and get up off the couch

>>51427866
You and me both, buddy.

>>51427866
>>51427887
None of you since Dorn killed Alpharius.

I still want to believe it was a simple marine.

>>51427878
What a letdown.

>>51427208
YOUR NOT THE BOSS OF ME!

>>51427844
Why are you complaining about a thing that hasn't even happened, and probably won't ever happen?

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>>51422491

Scion lore is quite possibly one of the biggest culprits of wasted potential

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>>51429671
I agree I want to see more of them. But what do you think they should have done? Written more characters and stories to fluff them out?

>>51429671
Agreed.

Though in the end you can do the YOUR DUDES thing and give them personalities and interesting lore.

>>51427810
I mean you could mate. Just build a Scions army that works extensively with the Inquisition and OffiIcio Assassinorum for intelligence and counter-intelligence whose Schola is on a Russian-themed world, because a lot of the regimental fluff in the codex suggests they harbour very close relationhips with their training worlds. Schola students apparently adopt new names based on Imperial saints and stuff when they're kids, but you could compound the theme by naming them all after Vostroyan and Valhallan generals and heroes.

>t. unironically really likes the scions in all their tacticool cheese

>>51430169
Heh.

Wouldn't be surprised if said world was one where Vostroyans and Valhallans liberated in the past, then settled down there because they did so well they earned it, and then there was a lot of events that caused them to create a regiment of Scions that are tougher than nails (both physically and mentally), are bros and make other regiments mistake their works for those of Khornates.

REMOVE CHAOS.

>>51429920
Even if I wanted to play tribal space-niggers who chuck spears at Tau?

>>51430275
As long as they are badass enough...

>>51427482
>Shirt is in Norwegian

MANN NEDE!

>>51430250
Yeah man. Scholas seem to be cut off from the world like monasteries, but the culture of the drill-abbots and the staff is probably imparted on the scholars in serious ways.

The wording of some of the fluff ("One Imperium, One Vision") in the Scions codex suggests that the Ecclesiarchy (and by extension its orphanage-schools) is one monolithic entity imposing a single orthodox view, but pretty much every other bit of lore we have suggests it's actually a conglomeration of sanctioned local cults that fall within certain criteria of praising the Emperor and encouraging obedience to authority. The Genestealer Cults novel goes into quite some detail about this, actually, because unsurprisingly the titular cult is the sanctioned Imperial sect the main characters are involved in

And there is nothing unorthodox or to be discouraged about a culture that encourages kids to grow up to be absolutemadmen.jpeg in the name of the Emperor.

>>51429671
I think there's a lot of potential there you can still fill out with, as >>51429920 my lad here says. Your dudes wins out, always.

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>>51429671
So, they don't have playing cards in the grim darkness of the far future?

>>51430385
Most of the books seem to suggest that we don't have the traditional spades, clubs, hearts and diamonds. Some of Abnett's stuff talks about an ace of spires or blades, and some other stuff seems to suggest that a dumbed-down version of the Emperor's Tarot is used in gambling.

>>51430385
>Rogue Trader opens a pre-historic vault of relics from one of the first colony ships to leave Holy Terra in the lost mists of time before the invention of Warp Travel
>Somehow the contents have been preserved for tens of thousands of years and are still intact
>All the storage vault contains is a deck of playing cards, a Mosin Nagant, a few knives, some ancient clothing, a few paper books, and an alarming quantity of ancient liquor
>The last known legacy of ancient Earth: The personal effects of a very, very bored /k/ommando.

>>51430336
Power to the people in this regard.

But on the other hand the Scions seem bland-ish compared to Stormtroopers from previous editions in gameplay terms (regimental doctrines and a expanded roster of units fit for a spec-ops organization).

They should give them more options, and when we're on it, give some more options to IG (as in doctrines for regiments).

They did it with Space Marines (Chapter Tactics), they did it with Chaos Space Marines (the Legions supplement made them badass again), so they should do the same with IG and Scions.

>>51425108
>>51426282
Well shit, now I have to make Foreign Legion Scions. Thanks, anons.

>>51430844
>Foreign Legion Scions
>Sacrifices saved
>Chaos Cultists underwent extensive mental reconstruction via intense mind-scribing, reconditioned via equally intense psycho-doctrination and recruited into the Tempestus Regiment

>>51427580
They're gonna reveal that there is no step 4, and that they were just tricked by some Chaos God into believing they were working to save the Imperium when really they were just helping topple it.

Aren't they.

>>51430844
Slightly old canon specifically states that adults can be shoehorned through Schola training, usually at the behest of an Inquisitor looking to induct an acolyte into their stormtroopers. A particularly bold or enterprising schola progenium might well take on a number of such adult pupils, perhaps at the behest of an Inquisitor looking to put together a company of such veterans.

I mean, hell, scholas are specifically orphanages for orphans of Imperial servants, children can be admitted to them at any age, and most cohorts of Scions tend to be formed out of trainee groups of roughly equivalent age to foster a sense of belonging, so there's no reason your Scions couldn't be a a hodgepodge of former child soldiers raised in Imperial Guard regiments

>>51430909
This is fucking amazing though. Oh my God. Like arco-flagellants and penitent engines on crack. Maybe cult orphans innoculated against daemonic corruption trained up as a Scion equivalent of Grey Knights?

>>51430406
Yeah, considering that portable and culturally significant games are the first thing to be propagandized, I'd expect an Emperor's tarot, with most card faces cartoonishly depicting the garish punishment and execution of heretic and dissenters; or a version with litanies and prayers on it.

>>51431073
Maybe the reason the Imperial Infantryman's Uplifting Primer strictly prohibits gambling is because to do so with such cards might have blasphemous connotations by technicality?

>>51430909
Perfect.
>>51431025
I like your thinking, anon.

>>51431110
I think it's much more practical, and that 40k soldiers, just like their real world counterparts, are more than willing to blow their fortune away when they're bored.

Gaunt's Ghost has many moments like this, pointing our that the men and women of Tanith are great soldiers, loyal and brave to a fault, but an absolute pain in the ass to deal with if you leave them bored or on leave long enough.

>>51422491
Wardian bullshit detected

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>>51431232
And use the right colours!

>>51431338
I based mine off spetznaz, red berets, dark russian green with lighter stripes under gunmetal trim

>>51431249
>the men and women of Tanith are great soldiers, loyal and brave to a fault, but an absolute pain in the ass to deal with if you leave them bored or on leave long enough.
As the old military aphorism says: Leave a grunt in a padded room holding a ball bearing, and he'll figure out a way to break it.

>>51430527
Well, in the first of the Beaquin books, there is a toy USSR rocket, so...

>>51431338
Current plan is some combination of tan/green/red/gold, with (if I can) 3D printed heads with a kepi over a Scion faceplate.

>>51431279
>t. 1d4chan pages from 2009

>>51431460
That sounds beautiful mate. You could probably kitbash the kepis fairly easily though from Cadian officer or Commissar hats and your hobby knife.

>>51431362
pics?

>>51431460
>>51431493
There's an anon who did caps for his orks. With a bit of tweaking you could make kepis with his methods, probably a bit of plasticard and GS.
He's the anon that make a fuckton of Ork conversions and then basically paints everything brown/rust.

>>51431610
>>51431493

Or just google 28mm kepi heads and buy someone elses.

>>51431688
>Buy
Goodness gracious anon what are you talking about?!

>>51430844
>>51430909
>31st Etic Strangers
As in "Légion Étrangère", perhaps?

>>51431044
Inquisitors love to make these kind of things to certain heretics.

Especially by making them charismatic priests later on.

Also the stuff you wrote on the Scion equivalent of GK?

Would need to be further expanded because it has some really sweet potential.

>>51431232
>DEVGRU Scions
>Chaos Cultists shot through adamantine walls via man-portable sniper cannon

>Spetsnaz Scions
>Entire Hive World destroyed

>Korean UDT Scions
>Somehow infiltrated the Chaos Stronghold via Shark Assault Boat

>SBS Scions
>See Korean UDT Scions, but with Fenrisian Ale and enough cursing to scare daemons away

>BOPE Scions
>Manticore Barrage the front of the Stronghold

>Ghurka Scions
>Cultists skulls collected and shipped to Terra to be presented to the Emperor

>UDT Scions
>Dig under the Chaos Stronghold and stab cultists to death

>Razvedki Scions
>Chaos Removed
>Bystanders diagnosed with severe PSTD
>Local Inquisitorial force mistakes their work for that of Khornates

>CIA SAD SOG Scions
>Archeotech Guided Missile from the sky

>>51431819
Magnifique

>=Chapter Master's Log=

>Classified Documents

>Passcode required: ***************************************************
>Passcode confirmed.

Operations journal: After much thought, I have granted the 55th Alphic Hydras training grounds throughout the system. By interacting with the native populations, the worlds should become completely drawn under our influence. The fact that no one, not even the marines of the chapters who pay fealty to me, have noticed the regiment's true allegiance regardless of their fame suggests that it will never occur in the future. If I find the agent conceived of this legion, I will have to congratulate him.

>Logging out

>Shutting down


++Thought for the day: Blessed is the mind too small for doubt++

>>51431956
Genius.

>>51431932
>Mossad Scions
>Sacrifices were in fact cleverly disguised Daemonhosts

>Navy SEALs Scions
>Chaos Stronghold infiltrated via sewer system

>>51431932
>>51432036
>Mossad Scions
>Hostage turns out to be a cleverly disguised Banebl- CREEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

>>51432097
sorry, he's pokeballed now.

>>51429627

Lurk the fuck moar

>>51432097
>Spetznaz
>It's just the Imperial Navy performing an orbital strike repeatedly

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>>51425108
>KSK
>swiss flag
Why?

>>51431073

There's a version of poker that they play with the Tarot deck. It's come up in a couple of Ciaphas Cain books, since hustling cards is one of the Commissars' favorite pastimes.

>>51426875
>the only aspect where tits are mandatory
That's wrong though.

>>51422518
Dat's proppa Orky!

>>51426408
Now I want some smut featuring an awkward stormtrooper's fumbling attempts to sleep with a banshee, but he has no idea how because he's been in Schola training his whole life and doesn't know how to interact with women.

>>51431932
Let's streamline the ideas a little bit, then.

>drill abbots and training personnel are drawn from a motley of vicious guard veterans from a variety of regiments the Inquisitor has served alongside, many of them nulls or blanks with a noted resistance to the ruinous powers
>various cultural quirks and eccentricities are picked up by osmosis from the drill instructors, but are occasionally cracked down upon hard if a pupil demonstrates too much individuality just to keep them on their toes
>them being psychic nulls intensifies the pupils' fear and disgust towards them
>the schola recruits from orphans of disgraced imperial servants, those convicted of heresy and occasionally outright rescues (where they can be salvaged)
>the pupils are instilled with a sense that they must atone for the sins of their parents' blasphemies before that, too, is mindscaped away

>>51422491
I can't imagine that anything I'm reading here actually matters.
WH40K is such an overdone mess, just like the """"power suits""""

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>>51433226
If you take out all the neo-gothic heraldry and religious symbols and PAULDRONS, and give every space marine a heavy weapon, the armor is very practical. Covers your whole body quite nicely and gives you a power source on your back, keeps you going for months on your recycled piss and shit, protects you from shrapnel, etc.

>>51433209
Well that's fair actually.

Add to this creativity with use of what they have and you got yourself some efficient Chaos Removal Regiment.

>>51433285
Does it really count as a pauldron if it covers the entire upper arm down to the elbow?

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>>51433303
That's why they're not pauldrons, they're PAULDRONS.

>>51433303
Don't they use the pauldrons as shields?

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>>51433383
Indeed. The standard firing posotion of SM has them actually showing their shoulder first, for two reasons.
PAULDRONS means they have a reactive shield to protect them from incoming fire, but also becausea bolter is so damn big, they'd have trouble holding it with their two hands in front of them, and not on the side.

You can probably find examples of the contrary, but marine firing in front of their legs and not on the side are often firing one handed.

>>51433355
Generictrashandnotatalliconic/10
would not purge with

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>>51431932
>>Razvedki Scions
>>Chaos Removed
>>Bystanders diagnosed with severe PSTD
>>Local Inquisitorial force mistakes their work for that of Khornates


>10/10 would play Dark Heresy with

>>51430336
>One Imperium, One Vision
Peace Through Power.
IN THE NAME OF KANE

>>51422491
What is the red triangle supposed to mean?

>>51435149
>>51434910
KANE . . . LIVES![/SPOILER]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhT4fVNrFwg

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>>51430275
Yes actually, space Zulu is a perfect fit for the TS.

>>51430922

They pretty much already have. Their entire written history is LOL U GOT PLAY'D, to both themselves and others. To outright say that they're Tzeentch's catspaws wouldn't even shock. GW likes jumping monster trucks of plot over flaming shark tanks in the middle of a rock concert that's falling into the sun when it comes to Alpha Legion tweests.

They're going to have to resort to killing a third Alpha Legion primarch.

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>>51433178
>The output of spaghetti from the stormtrooper closes the eye of terror

>>51436322
THREEFOLD SERPENT

>>51431249
>after a year of enforced rear duties, the XO of the regiment puts together a casino heist just for something to do

I have to admit, that was hilarious

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damm I would love to see a game where these guys are basically Star wars commando in warhammer 40k (since there can be just so much of space marines)

put into a warhammer 40k spacemarines videogame intro / engine and there you have it.

>reminder that this was such an underated game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qeNasdgBFU

>>51436425
> The eldar banshee is unimpressed.
> "Please, you call that spaghetti? Stupid mon'keigh, you cannot compete with eldar who walk the Path of Pasta. They are capable of such awkwardness that the stars themselves would cringe."

>>51437311
> "So that's a no?"
> "I didn't say that."
> "Then... yes?"
> "Just shut up and hold still so I can use you as a springboard again."

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It must suck to be a scion.
>Be an orphan.
>Be inna Schola Progedium
>Training to become something badass, like an inquisitor or a Commissar or some other super secret Imperial Agent
>Graduation day comes
>Not chosen by an inquisitor to join their retinue, not chosen by the Officio Prefectus to join the Commissariat, not chosen by any of the myriad of secret organizations present
>Handed off unceremoniously with the other rejects to a grizzled old man with a beret
>Apparently you are in the Guard, but the regular Guardsmen hate you
>Everyone hates you
>You hate you
>Soon, you're given an angry lasgun, and get blown apart by anything bigger than a chaos cultist

When will we see someone modelling a Banshee leaping off the back of a MT like we saw someone make the Knight gutting the Wraithknight from DoW3.

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>>51437106
MY NIGGA

I'm actually putting together a scion army right now that's directly inspired by clone commandos. Thinking they get their weird pseudo-mandalorian influences from feral worlder drill abbots instilling a warrior culture into them.

Going for a stark white colour scheme doesn't really jive with the tacticool elements of them, as much as I really want to do it. Thinking of going gunmetal grey. Either way, I'm really looking forward to customising and individualising each trooper in the squads.

Also you cockteased then denied me a bit by linking Space Marine when you mentioned Republic Commando in your post but I fucking love that too so I'll let you off

>>51426875
> Be qt 3.14 TS chick
> See superior, chiseled, male Eldar body
> have heretic thoughts about it every night since

we need to make this a thing.

>>51422518
This is great.

>>51437935
> Eldar stealing our women too

DELET THIS

>>51438012
you probably like it too

>>51437935
eldar are lanky manlets next to space marines, though

>>51438215
they can actually please women unlike the eunuchs of the emperor, who only get to see as the superior Eldar race ravages their women.

>>51438241
Maybe in your nowheresville sector. Sure glad I went to an Ultramar Schola.

>>51438241
>implying Eldar aren't basically celibate after what happened with Slaanesh.

>some of the regiment's best young Scions have even been recruited by the Adeptus Astartes

don't you need to be like, 14 in order to survive taking in the gene seed?

>>51438933

I don't think you realize that a 14 year old in 40k is basically a huge grizzled Rambo looking fucker with stubble and scars.

I'm not even joking.

>>51427042
>Alpha Legion is actually the only loyalist legion left

>>51438933
Selection day's probably only in their early teens, man. If the schola has any ties with a local chapter, it's not really that strange they'd be able to snatch some up before they hit 20.

>>51438933
BTs and SWs both recruit people into their 20's.

A group with Ultramarine-tier resources could get the Biologist to make it work if they wanted.

>>51430406

I know the Emperor's Tarot is a psychoactive card deck, and it is mentioned that it's also used as a game deck by non-psykers. It's possible psychic versions are kept in the hands of Space Marines, Inquisitors, and any loyalists with a strong psychic tradition and the need to divine some information.

And there's probably basic paper versions that are printed by the million that can be found in an Imperial Guardsman's kit for morale purposes, to the table of a pleasure world's casino, to the pocket of any bored underhive ganger. Of course, those that might have a mystic or shamanistic tradition might still pull the occasional prophecy from an ordinary pack of cards, since, to the warp, form sometimes follows function, and even a deck of cards can become imbued with their ritualistic use.

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>>51430406
>we don't have the traditional spades, clubs, hearts and diamonds
Technically they do, they just don't know what they were used for.

The salamanders used to use them as unit markings. The top hatch icon existing because it helps titan commanders with IFF was always a neat detail to me.

>>51439015
Doesn't sound very codex-compliant.

>>51439179

Don't you hate it when faggots quote RT shit like it's still canon?

>>51439441
No, but I do hate it when faggots hate on old stuff for no reason.

>>51439475
>implying anyone's doing that right now

Maybe you should stop bringing it up incorrectly or in the wrong contexts and then assuming people hate it when they really just hate you for being a fucking moron.

>>51439564
Is there a purpose behind this autistic outbreak, or are you just allergic to anything older than you are.

>>51422518
fpbp

>>51439179
>six pointed star
Oy vey, join chaos goyi- guardsmen

>>51439705
Now you know the true identity of the feral tribe that Horus encountered on Davin.

>>51439571

It's funny how you can literally spell shit out for retards and they'll still keep being wrong and still keep posting.

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>>51422518

>>51437106
If you're a modder, grab XCOM 2 ans off you go. There's all the Halo stuff already, and Scions have less customisation than the numerous SPARTANS armors, it would be fairly easy to do it.

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>>51437507
She's coming back to jump on his dick!

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>>51437741
>White colour scheme
Don't mind me, just posting inspiration.

>>51438241
I mean we know SM have monster sized dongs, but we don't know if theyhave the balls that come with it, and it is positive that they don't have the will or primal urge to use it.

>>51439868
The notion of them cutting a marines balls off doesn't make sense to me, they're armoured slabs of testosterone and there's very little else implanted in a marine that could possibly produce the stuff other than their balls.

Sexual urges aren't likely to be an issue with all the mental conditioning they go through. There's a quote out there from a German prison guard that goes something along the lines of "we knew the spirits of the PoWs was broken when they stopped masturbating"; That right there sounds akin to what a marine would go through in training, only to be rebuilt as a single minded weapon.

>>51431932
>Danish Jaeger Scions
>Drive Chimera into Chaos stronghold

>JTF-2 Scions
>Hail from peaceful Agri-world, are ridiculously operator anyway

>>51440085
>JTF-2 Scions
More like:
>Who? They're already done?
>Why is the whole Chaos Stronghold in a sweet smelling syrup?

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>>51430385
No, GW is just retarded.

>>51440447
>first regiment raised

Lucky Aces might be 9,000 years old for all you know.

>>51440458
You know, being in the military mean you spent a lot of time waiting around killing time.
So dice and cards are probably one of the cornerstones of troop morale and sanity during warp voyages.
Don't think it's much of stretch that these things will still be around in 38k years, if humanity is still around then.

In any case - you might have missed it - I circled the playing card on the soldier himself.
Unless you wanna argue that is a 9000 year old picture too, which would be not really helpful in building inspiration for a 40k Jerumael army, which is the reason that was in the IG codex.

It's not like there aren't bigger inconsistencies in 40k...

>>51440447
Their regiment was named the Aces, and they earned the "Lucky" nickname after a string of absurdly lucky events while on campaign.

They didn't name their regiment after one trooper's breach of uniform regulations.

>>51440484

that card could be an ace of diamonds you dont know

just cause the regiment is named aces

its schrodingers suit until the card is fully pulled out

>>51440499
>They didn't name their regiment after one trooper's breach of uniform regulations.
First of all, that logic is completely backwards and showcasing a guy that isn't exemplary for the regiment would defeat the point of showcasing him in the first place.

Seriously, GW does this stuff all the time, I don't get why you are trying so hard to bend over backwards to justify it.

>>51440598
We as outside observers know the ace of spades is lucky, but that's separate from the information being presented to us from the universe itself.

There's no bending over backwards when they straight up say why they're called lucky aces in the accompanying text.

>>51440629
It kind of is when you insist that they don't know the meaning of the playing card when the soldier in the picture is wearing one in his headband.

>>51440653
They don't know the meaning/origin of the SYMBOL. Shit, not many people now know what the spade represents or where it came from.

>>51440665
If you are trying to argue that the ace of spade is a common thing on the playing card and the whole stick about 'nobody knows the meaning of the symbol' only refers to the origins of the shape and not the use on a playing card, that's more or less just a semantic distinction, that seems pointlessly convoluted given the context it is mentioned in.

If that is not what you mean then I still think it's pretty stupid and a weird thing to get so worked up about.

>>51433558
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huBXVQ9JS5g

>>51441071
I said there'd be examples of the contrary. That's a fan made thing but most importantly tou have to admit it looks awry.

Look at this little teaser and see how he shoots:
https://youtu.be/vGNRXbpCjQU

Hell, just play Space Marine. I haven't touched it in a long time but I'm pretty sure he fire shoulder first, your character doesn't show his torso to the ennemy.

>>51441122
I know. I just wanted to show you an example.
In the video I think the marines are all firing on the run and thats why they shoot that way. Ive never shot a gun running but wouldnt it be difficult to do so side on?

>>51441179
Firing on the run is basically not hitting anything, you're better off firing from the hip so yeah.

>>51441207
And I do agree that it does look funky

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>>51429671
I hate to be picky, but how come the logo of the 68th Deltic Lions isn't, you know, a lion?

>>51439856
https://youtu.be/MSrTnWDTdwI

>>51441207
>>51441179
something something advanced technology, something something genetic modifications, something something ridiculous amounts of training.

I would imagine Space Marines are well trained to shoot from the hip and on the run, since a large part of their job is rapid assault.

>>51429671

>The symbol born is unclear
>Victory in face of misfortune

All the Scion lore keeps blue balling me man why cant they expand on them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcf7DnHi54g

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>>51439856
>>51437106


Scions also look extremely good in the Ultramarine color scheme

>>51429671

So is the theory that these guys are somewhat connected to isha agreed upon?

>>51439329
There's not much in the codex about age of recruitment. That's more of a necessity/gene seed related thing.

Though it might explain why it's so hush-hush.

>>51440447
Big galaxy. Cultural drift in part of it to forget something that is elsewhere remembered is entirely possible

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>>51439015
>Implying the Codex Astartes supports this action

>>51443078
Try and keep up.

>>51439856
Wonder how the got the cracked look.

>>51443347
Looks like sponge weathering.

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>>51422518
>>51427042
>>51427300
>>51427810
>>51427878
>yfw they make this canon

>>51444099
Even Tzeentch couldn't hatch a plan this insane and make it work.

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>>51426875
>Feanolfin


Jesus Christ this guy must be the best Banshee ever, maybe the best Eldar ever. Fucking Feanor AND Fingolfin in one person?

How can Chaos even hope to compete?

>>51438215
Eldar are as tall as Space Marines are m8
They also have better proportions, seeing how Space Marines look like grotesque masses of muscle with tiny heads.

>>51437935
Fact:
The Eldar emit an "alien allure" on humans, regardless of the sex of either party.
They are universally hot to humans, male or female.

>>51445068
>Better proportions

U wot m8?

They are still aliens. They'll look attractive no matter what, but your human brain will still notice that something is fucky.

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>>51445293
Forgot the best representation of an eldar alien body.

>>51445307
>xenology
>canon

Oh you.

Even Blanchedar don't look like that.

>>51440484
Of course cards are still around, it's the symbols that would have changed; they probably vary from world to world.
That could be a ace of spades, an ace of of Sanguinius' tears or any amount of things.

>>51432864
It isn't.
As far as we know, the Banshee's are Khaine's onlky female aspect, so any females going into the other branches have to squeeze their boobs into regular armour.
Then again, eldar are pretty flat to begin with.

>>51445293
> but your human brain will still notice that something is fucky.
You'll notice that they're a bit different than human. That can mean downright better.

>>51446861

Just another example of why FFG is non-canon trash.

>>51449186
Xenology isn't FFG.

It is however contradicted a lot of material that came both before and after it. Eldar get a lot of different portrayals, but none of them line up with Xenology.

>>51436532
Cut off one head, two more shall take it's place...

>>51439082
This happens back in like the second ever book GW published. Inquisitor Jaq Draco uses the Imperial Tarot to sort shit out.

>>51445307
The joke is that Ephrael Stern is a) really human and b) indistinguishable from an Eldar female with her face covered when otherwise basically naked. When being stared at by other Eldar, up close.

Human women and Elder women can totally visually overlap in the grim future of the far future, at least externally.

>>51450183
Yeah, but she's basically made of condensed handwaving and plot armor, so I don't think she's very representative of the average human.

>>51450727
And yet she still looks human enough for SoBs and Inquisitors and Marines to never once make comment on how unusual her appearance is, nor is she particularly distinguishable from her fellow Sororitas.

(She's actually somewhat shorter and less stocky than a fair few of them in Daemonifuge)

Maybe she isn't representative of the absolute tip of the bell curve, but it's a big Imperium, and there are a lot of Eldar.

>>51440706

Yet you still didn't manage to define what the ace of spades symbol represented, even with google at your disposal.

>>51422491

>name so blatant it may aswell be "not-Alpha Legion"
>similar tactics
>successfully infiltrated the Ultramarines
>training facilities on a mountain named after the indian word for cannabis >cannabis in india mostly being smoked by dudes who worship snakes and the god of destruction
>another name for charas would be hashish which can be linked to the historical hashashin, a bunch of Syrian assassins led by the Old Man of the Mountain.
>asymmetric warfare, psychological warfare, and surgical strikes were often an employed tactic of the hashashin

>>51435214

>A red badge was used in Nazi concentration camps to identify spies

Honestly these guys seem to be 100% legit to me.

Loyalist/10, would entrust with the future of mankind.

>>51450816
I was more commenting on the fact that she can just do whatever the plot requires at that particular moment. If she needs to pass for Eldar, she can do that even if she doesn't actually look like one. If she needs to be able to blow up a Culexus assassin by overloading it with psychic energy, she can do that even if Culexus assassins don't actually work that way.

>>51454387
Her appearence is consistent throughout the whole series though, so that makes no sense.

>>51438241
Isn't that kinda how Slaanesh got born in the first place?

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>>51454646
nothing in Daemonifuge makes sense

>>51425108

/k/ has numerous spec ops infographics that play up the reputations of different units.

>>51460804
Well, gonna have to take a look then.

>>51430169

I built a multi-planet system which joined the Imperium willingly during the Grand Crusade. The Emperor dashed off a friendly memo thanking them and impressed by their multi-division combined arms formations, and that sacred relic became their justification for being exempt from the usual Imperial rules on the subject.

Basically instead of Regiments, the armies from the Rodinian System are combined arms formations that follow the TO&E of the Red Army during the Cold War. That includes spetznaz units, which of course are stormies.

It really only works in Epic Armageddon play, because they permit the use of large mechanized formations but I suppose you could do it in 40k as well.

>>51427300
>this wasn't the plothook for a game of paranoia

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>>51437542
>Catachan biting through a ripper

Every time.

>>51460804
Links?

>>51425108
I have to say, I'm tempted to do a SBS Scion army who fly around in Caestus Assault Rams...

>>51461804
Would be fun to see them.

Though it won't be SBS if you won't give them Fenrisian Ale and make them curse so hard even daemons will run away from them.

>>51425108
>NKSOF Scions
>Chaos Cultists terminated, Chaos Stronghold captured and sacrifices rescued
>Still blame it all on the incompetence of the High Lords and get away with it

>>51430527
>Suddenly, dark eldar attack
>Rogue Trader attempts to hold the line but is being driven back
>suddenly Xeno shits start dropping all around him
>Listening intently, he can hear what he can only assume is an ancient war cry
>ANUUUU CHEEKI BREEKI