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B(iscuts)O(f) P(rospero) Edition
No Summary Wednesday Sub-Edition
>HHG
http://pastebin.com/iUqNrrA8
Official HH 7th Edition Errata (Updated January 2016)
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Horus_Heresy/Horus_Heresy_7th_Edition.pdf
>30k TACTICA & TIPS
What to include in a HH list, how to format it, what makes each legion special (crunch), tactics, Tutorials for Heresy-era minis and more
http://pastebin.com/Tm2P4QLp
>HH Books, Novels and Rulebooks galore
http://pastebin.com/k9uvqsub
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmega.nz%2F%23F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyC
>Updated rulebooks
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.docdroid.net%2Ffz1OuHK%2Fcrusade-imperialis-army-lists.pdf.html
https://sys.4chan.org/derefer?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.docdroid.net%2FZTK72gs%2Flegiones-astartes-age-of-darkness-army-list.pdf.html
>/HHG/'s Legion demographics
http://www.strawpoll.me/10558764
>Primarch Popularity Poll
http://www.strawpoll.me/11458318

>Make your unit entries
http://www.mediafire.com/file/q315zmyjntb4j04/LA+Exploitable+v1.pdf

>BoP's Paint guide
http://imgur.com/a/aBKJE

>HH Discord
https://discord.gg/wYS2J6b
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Iron Within, Iron Without!
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Quick name what you want for Book 8.
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>>51401848

Better Dark Angels rules.
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>>51401848

A fucking update to IF rules. Do Tartaros get stormshields or not???
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>>51401873

Just give them martial hubris, it makes so much more sense as a rule
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>>51401888

Why would he have IFs in the DA and BA book? There were zero fists at Thramas or Signus.
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>>51401899
wazzat?
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>>51401873
That may be granted.
>>51401888
Your trips confuse me. And why would Fists be in the Dangle book?
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>>51401848
I'd like an extensive errata beFORe Book 8. And changed Mortars so you can only have a single type of ammo per unit.

But I can't wait to see what shiny units I will be able to add to my Alpha Legion :^)
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>>51401936
That formation just looks extremely impractical and pointless on a modern battlefield.
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>>51401927

Alpha legion rule

If you lose more units than your opponent, they get +1 VP

Same idea, better execution
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Virtues of the Sons/Sins of the Father audio link anyone?
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>>51401995
>implying the Dangles' paranoia and own secretive nature isn't a natural Alpha Legion blocker
>>51402035
Welcome to 40k.
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>>51402127
I thought this was 30k
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>>51401806
I want the XXXIIIth thread claimed by Bollocks Jetbikes.
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>>51401848
F I X D E S T R O Y E R S
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>>51402140
I'm not having a good day so my bad. But it could be worse. I could be Finish or living in Greenland.
>>51402164
This is most likely thread# 1759. So no jetbikes for you.
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>>51401848
Updated rules for the Space Marine War Pony.

It's pretty OP at 2000+1 points.
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>>51401848
Sanguinius being able to draw or beat Horus.
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>>51402207
Oh I remember that.
>>51402215
Book 8 is mostly likely Dangle Land.
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>>51402127
The DA's secrecy and strict hierarchy is the perfect enabler. Replace somebody high enough in command and you get to walk around in a bathrobe all day, and nobody would dare and question anything you say or do.

Only thing left is having a good reason to avoid the gay orgies :^)
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>>51402226
Book 8 has already been confirmed for both BA and DA.

Hence the name, Angelus.
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>>51402215

Beating SSJGod Horus isn't much of a feat in and of itself. Sanguinius would have thrashed Horus were it not for half of one of the most numerous Legions of the era and two Greater Daemons barring his path. And the Emperor basically played with His food so much that He forgot He was actually being wounded.
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>>51402233
>mfw
You have to know the secret handshake.
>>51402242
It is?
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>>51402287
Yeah, FW confirmed that back in what, November?
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>>51402440
Wow. Don't know how I missed that.
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>>51402564
Eh, it's the only thing we know about the book and it's who knows how far off. Can't blame you for not being on the look out for info on it.
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>>51402207
The Space Marine what now?
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>>51402242
What about White Scars?
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>>51402773
Talking about the Rending Pony, I assume.
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>>51402788
Book 9 I guess. Sorry mongol bro.
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>>51402768
I've been off /tg/ for a while now since November.
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>>51402822
It's the emperor in disguise!
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Semi-new to 30K and working on converting a Kurtha Sedd into a Death Guard praetor. Already got a scythe to replace the crozius. Trying to decide on the other arm. Keeping the plasma pistol seems silly. Maybe just give him a bolter since the scythe is two-handed anyway.

Thoughts?
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>>51402912

>implying

Its clearly none other than the [REDACTED].
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>>51402923
Just say "BaC Chaplain." or something similar. Nobody remembers what those dudes are called.

Why not a combi-weapon?
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>>51402923
Fucking who?
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>>51402871
The dumbest thing you could have done was come back anon
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>>51403005
I could do a combi-weapon. I have the bits to cobble something together. My concern is that it starts to get a little odd to be pistol gripping that large of a gun.
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Magnus isnt going to be released with Inferno is he?
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I'm going to bash a siege breaker consul together from spare parts. Is there any particular aesthetic they adhere to? Nuncio-vox, so give him some antennas or some such. Maybe a hammer. Good to go, yeah?
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>>51403156

Why don't you draw a quick rendition on MS paint on what you want your consul to look like, and then post it here so we can offer some ideas?
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>>51403005
Load of bull, the Chaplain is Kurtha Sedd and the Praetor is Cataphractus Ultramarius.
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>>51403059
If I was a smart man I wouldn't have came to this site in the first place. But since I'm not a smart man I'm here.
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>>51402035
it would be pretty great in spaceship corridors/hive tunnels, though

stops grenades from being thrown over your shield wall
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>>51402822
I had forgotten this.
Keked.
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>>51403156
>>51403216
Seconding. I want to see anon's MSPaint/free hand drawing skills
>>51403446
>Cataphractus Ultramarius.
Lo and behold, I keked again, sooner than I had expected.
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>>51403216
My conversions are usually more organic. I don't have a plan per se. I just kinda so at it, test fitting, then gluing and eventually there's a finished model.
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>>51403601
Uhum, uhum.
Post drawing pics.
I'd post interesting Siege breakers I've seen, but I don't want to bias your own opinion. Drawings plz.
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Shattered Legion list advice (same guy from last thread)?

Nothing has points yet:

Shattered Legions

Covenant of Fire

HQ - Praetor - 185
Mantle of the Elder Drake
Iron Halo
Storm Shield
Master-Crafted Thunder Hammer

Troops - Assault Squad
3x Inferno Pistol
Power Glaive

Troops - Tactical Support Squad
10 meltaguns
Rhino

Elites - Weaponmaster Veteran Squad
8x Power Swords
1x Power Glaive w/ AA
maybe special weapons?

Fast Attack - Land Speeders

Heavy Support - Caestus Assault Ram - 305

Glaives, Speeders, and tactical support are WS; Caestus and Praetor are Sallies. Praetor rides with Vets in Caestus to go fuck people up.

Things I'm unsure about:

Worth taking only a single multi-melta on the speeders instead of grav-guns? They are Master-Crafted, but it still seems too janky to try.

10x melta marines--too expensive? Is 5 alone okay?

Caestus--worth it? Or should I drop the speeders entirely for a Storm Eagle and take something else in Heavy Support?

This would be going next to a Solar Auxilia list with 1-2 lasrifle blobs & quad mortars on quad-gun aegis lines, as well as tanks and Veletarii.
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Imperial Fists: I need help on fitting their fluff to their crunch for a list. The gist of it is I want to basically build a Fortress and force my opponent to deal with it or get rekt. I'm thinking Artillery out the ass and plenty of interceptor to keep deep strikers out. Oh, and tons of bolter boys for that sweet +1 BS.
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>>51403836

You are going to need an HQ for WS also.
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>>51404069
That restriction is only on legion-specific units.
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>>51403949
Take 3x Forgelords+Servitors and 3x20 Bolter boys with apothecaries plus whatever support you want, then the rest of the points go into an Aquila Strongpoint with Void Shields and as many Void Shield Generators as you can. You will be using Castellan Organization Chart so no Rite for you, the forge lords fix shit and shoot shit.

I made that list a while ago but I cant remember how many points that was.
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>>51404163

I can see it read being read the other way, but I lean towards "In order to take any choices from a specific legion, the force must contain...." means that you need the HQ and can't have a random circus of 12 units from different legions.
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>>51404336
I suppose that means I can't make an allied detachment at all, and I can see where that perspective is reinforced through some of the earlier wording. Kinda seems out of character for shattered legions.

Hm.

Is Rule-of-Coolâ„¢ applicable here? I'm not trying to go mega cheese (I've got power sword vets in a caestus for Emp's sake). But would you consider it over the line?
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I know we dont have rules yet but does anyone know which legions the sisters of silence fought alongside during the great crusade and heresy?
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>>51404403

To be fair, all you need is a WS consul and it would be fine. I don't see anything forbidding or restricting Allies, aside from points.

Also, Why do you want Sallies + WS with Solar??
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>>51404486
Even though my usual response would be "wait for the Inferno", we know they fought alongside the Death Guard, the "fuck witches!1!!!" legion.
Maybe alongside the Luna Wolves as well?

Against anyone with psychic powers and witchery, really.
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>>51404486
Also, this.
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>>51404486
Space Wolves
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>>51404570
Holy crap, I just realized this Mortarion is almost spot on for the Mortarion model.
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>>51404508
You misunderstand. The Shattered Legions WOULD be the Allied Detachment.

Rules-wise I wanted something to go from 2k to 3k points that featured some Legion toys.

Fluff-wise, they'd be Salamanders Blackshields that were mutated as the Salamanders tried to bring their numbers up really quickly after getting murderzoned early on. Exiled for their deformity, they eventually die out in the Heresy/Scouring but their geneseed would end up becoming the Black Dragons in 40k.

There'd still be some "pure," successful Salamanders (like the Praetor)

I considered Chymarie Blackshields. But Option 1 (+1S, +1T, -1" Run and Charge, no sweeping) didn't fit with their character as fast assault/bone claw dudes.

Option 2 (+1 WS +1 BS -2Ld) was closer but constant -2 Ld really hurts and it also doesn't fit well with "stoic guys who are hated by the people they protect."

Option 3 (Fear, Fleet, Rage, -1BS) is probably closest to what I had in mind, but it also means the WHOLE group were gene-failures.

Furthermore, can't take epic Salamanders praetor or RoWs, and I'd miss out on units that just seem fun to play (horde of WS Land Speeders).
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>>51404570
I like their models and i play Night Lords. I know Sevatar had a thing against psykers and that the Night Lords were on the magic-sux side of Nikea but i cant convince myself that they would work with the SOS
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>>51404667
>end up becoming the black dragons
Anon, the Black Dragons are cursed founding. All cursed founding chapters were made from geneseed that was purposefully screwed around with.
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>>51404739
Exactly.

>techpriest goes poking around geneseed vaults
>oh this one looks interesting, real fuckin' old though
>eh, it's probably fine
>a few thousand bone growths later
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>>51404771
I don't like you.
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>>51401888
No, they don't get stormshields. It's clear based off the way the Vigil Pattern stormshield is written.
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>>51403005
>Nobody remembers what those dudes are called.
>I read their books
>I kinda liked them
At least it was better than battle for the abyss
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>>51404667

There is nothing stoping you from using Sally Landspeeders. Also this uses 6th transport rules so you can't mix legions and transports (Under sworn brother rules on allies chart)

You are probably better off going pure sallies if that is what you want to do instead of mixing things.
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>>51404793
https://youtu.be/g6PDcBhODqo?t=1m48s

>captcha is REDUCTOR
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>>51404645
Well I don't know which one came first, just like Angron's pic in HH1, looking almost like the model.
I think the pics came first.
But what I don't like about Mortarion's mini, even more than his lack of a rebreather is he lacks his iconic spiked hoodie.

I always think of it like some sort of Iron Halo Crown.

>>51404732
Sure, they could work, especially with members of the Eight, which are recorded to have fought against disidents worthy of something beyond anihilation:

Worthy of being made an example of.

And what better match to their black hearts than the Soulless maidens with their Abyssal and Oblivion knights?
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>>51404826
>"Brothers, we have been fighting these traitors side-by-side for many months. Now comes the day to join our forces as one and fight our way out of this blasted, black desert!"
>"you can't come in my rhino tho"
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>>51404852
>"but brother, the enemy uses ordinance! Surely theres room for both of us in there."
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>>51404826
I suppose I'll just end up doing that.

Actually, Sagyar Mazyn RoW might be fitting...
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>>51404879
>"No! It's my transport and my mommy praetor said I don't have to share!"
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>>51404892

>"This is fucking stupid and I will be sure to rectify this in my Magnum Opus, The Codex Astartes."

t. Roboute Guilliman
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>>51403658
>>51403590
>>51403216
All right, you shitheads. You want bad art? Here you go.

This is my Siege Breaker Consul. You can see that he's using his nuncio-vox to broadcast a poop emoji to disorient my enemy and let friendly troops know where to go.

He is also throwing his thunder hammer with several phosphex bombs tied to it. He is very upset.
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>>51404951
>girlyman wrote the codex because his uber driver never showed up

it all makes sense
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>>51404959
>throwing a thunder hammer
He better be a Space Wolf with magic boomerang Thunder Hammers, or I'm reporting him to the Forge Lord.
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We already have a few stories of IW x IF friends.
Can we have one about DG & Sallies as allies? Perhaps without either Kyme, his orbital flamethrowers and the burning Life Eater?
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>>51404959
He's so upset!
I've seen this pic of Durak Rask, the Death Guard Master of Ordnance, with both the Siege Breaker's Art of Destruction and the Praetor's Master of the Legion rules.

He also happens to use a Thunder hammer and a phosphex bomb.
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>>51405001
I just want a story about some Thousand Sons teaming up with someone and it not ending in disaster/hatred. The ally matrix looks so sad for the Sons. Not even the Primarchs that liked Magnus wanted to fight with his legion.
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>>51404959
And anon decided to model his Alpha Siege breaker (?) wielding a yuuuuuge phosphex can.
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>>51405068
>ywn have tsundere wolves + sons teamup
>because inferno will never be released
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>>51405068

Thousand Sons were so comparatively small and limited in force projection that the other Legions would have done just as well fighting with the Chapters of other Legions instead.

>hey Death Guard-san, look at me conjure up this tornado to blow away that wall
>uh no thanks I'll just call in artillery instead
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>>51405068
We also have a robot wing.
Come to the Dodekatheon, let's get shell shocked and be Sworn Brothers!
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>>51401806
What the hell are they showing on 4th/5th. BA, DA, 1ksons, woofs, sistas, custodes?
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>>51405134
Of all of the legions you could pick, and you chose the Death Guard to be friends of witches

Wrong decision :^)
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>>51405194

>friends
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>>51405199
Also this.
Especially this
;_;
When your only friends are Horus and Curze, you know something is wrong.
I wish they were at least friend(ish) with the Iron Warriors.
Breakers of worlds should stand united.
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>>51405124
>ywn have tsundere wolves + sons teamup
It almost worked out too if Magnus wasnt such a douche and Russ wasnt such a bigot. SW charging head first with the Sons kine shield psychic wall bullshit would be so OP. That allowed Magnus to tank a Titan shot after all.

>>51405134
>TSons and Death Guard working successfully together
Pick 0. I love how even when Magnus and Mort were working together in WoM Magnus still dicked him over.

But yes I do see your point. Still having a squad of TSons psykers would have been a great force multiplyer for a lot of legions IMO. If only everyone didnt hate them ;(

>>51405147
Yeah heres hoping we can team up with the new psychic Ro-bros.
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>>51402822
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>>51405245
>Magnus and Mort were working together in WoM
WTF I gotta read WoM.
Dammit I thought it was only about non-important TSxSW stuff.

Also, even though I'm DG, my favourite chapter in 40k are the Blood Ravens, and I liked it a lot when they appeared in Space Marine.

Psykers are always a force multiplier, and in fact I believe that if the Emperor had used Biomancy blessings on Mortarion to enact retribution on his father rather than on Himself to steal his glory, then Fourteen would have had a completely opposite opinion to librarians than his regular self.

And had Mortarion and Magnus been friends, well, I doubt the later could have schooled the former enough to avoid his nurgly fate, but at least they would have been damned together, rather than alone.

When we burn all witches, we'll spare your librarians. Just plz no witchery, and take Typhon with you.
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>>51405312
>I believe that if the Emperor had used Biomancy blessings on Mortarion
Yeah but Emps gotta Emp. If he didnt mentally scar as many of his sons as possible then who knows...

>and take Typhon with you.
No thanks, we've got enough trouble as is thank you.
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>>51405312
>>51405388

Emp wanted to make a point that you can't do this shit of changing the universe alone. Even Big E needs an army, what the fuck makes you, Mr. Super Farmer, think you can do it all on your own too? Instead, Morty was being a stick in the mud about it all.
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>>51405490
>Mr. Super Farmer
This reminds me of one of my first D&D characters. I was playing a pretty strong Fighter who had some ridiculously lucky stat rolls. Later on, we were joking about commoners, and I'd asked how much gold a farmer makes in a year. Our DM had said around 1-10 pieces, so I went "Screw adventuring, I'm gonna go start a farm." Then we all laughed.

Then I rolled up a new character, because I was serious.
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Public holiday here today so got a game and some beers in with a mate smashing mechanicum and knights at eachother. Even though he brought 3 knights and mech I countered with a bunch of myrms with conversion beamers and a cheeky Atrapos. God damn is the Atrapos a mean sucker, even got a vortex shot off that ran through his tanks/artillery line. Have a pic of a domitar squishing some ursarax.
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>>51406584

The unpainted knights triggers my paint autism.
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>>51406623
just built it late last night, will try and have it cranked out in 2 weeks. Was triggering me pretty hard too but I needed to bring something against 3 knights hahaha
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>>51406584
>holiday
>beer
>30k

Meanwhile I'm preparing for my third 12 hour shift in a row.
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>>51406584
>domitar
how does it play? the model is groovy but I've been unimpressed by the rules ever since they came out. is it worth it or is it better to just proxy it as an arlatax until that gets a model?
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>>51406742
Usually rubbish unless you can sneak it into an assault, most games it gets focused fired pretty quick. They are fun to throw into ZM matches though! Artalax models when?!!!
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>>51406720
sorry to hear that broseph, move to Aus and soak up our 30k and drunken holidays. Also man of the match goes to the tank shocking transport helping to strip a hullpoint off a knight in a kamikaze attack.
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>>51407062

Is that Questoris from Mezoa? It has the Mezoa fire and Half-Cog on its shield.
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Please can I have some crit on this list, first time trying a Cybernetica list with Scoria.

Scoria: Abeyant 315pts

Dominus: Abeyant, Archae-Pistol, Cyber-familiar, Machinator Array, Power Sword 150pts

20 x Adsec Covenant: Frag Grenades, Las-lock, Revenant Alchemistry, TRoPT 110pts

20 x Adsec Covenant: Frag Grenades, Las-lock, Revenant Alchemistry, TRoPT 110pts

2 x Castellax: Enhanced Targeting Arrays, Frag Grenades, Siege-Wrecker 290pts

2x Castellax: Enhanced Targeting Arrays, Darkfire Array 280pts

Homonculex: Arc Scourge 185pts

3 x Vorax: Bio-corrosive ammunition, Frag Grenades, 2x Irad-Cleanser 260pts

Thanatar: Enhanced Targeting Array, Paragon of Metal 300pts

Total: 2000pts
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>>51407116
Long time Scoria abuser here, you have the core right, put him with the Castellax or vorax, easy peasy. You need some other anti tank other than 2 darkfires though. Cyber lists are very hard to balance under 2k because of the high tax of 2 castellax squads. BUT this will all depend on your local meta. If you are facing mostly footslogging BAC and Prospero box armies it will rape things. Don't forget to cast Right of the beast just before an assault.
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>>51401995

Same here. Some clarity on a few things (like Armoured Breakthrough) would be cool.
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>>51401848
new jetbikes.
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>>51407172
Yeah, most everyone else is using the plastics and very few even have tanks. Just wanted to make sure I hadn't made any schoolboy errors.

Excellent, cheers, looking forward to ripping through marines in the name of the Omnissiah.
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>>51407245
enjoy cyberthurgering a double shot thanatar plasma wave into marine blobs, not much comes close to the hilarity of rolling those dice apart from phosphex mortar spam.
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>>51407305

Reminds me of this.
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>>51407305
Is anywhere full version of this image? Without that text space left bottom.
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Anyone played burning of prospero? Not interested in 30k or 40k but as a self contained game it looks interesting.
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>>51405245
What did Magnus do to Morty?
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>>51405312
WoM?
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>>51407062
Why do the Aussies 30k so much better than the rest of us?
Look at that battlefield. Look that those models.
Meanwhile, all the US is putting up is shit painted IWs, armies that are 90% converted 40k models (mostly badly as well), and shit like that
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>>51406623
> REEEEEE UNPAINTED KNIGHT
> Doesn't notice awesome painted Mechanium right in front
Something tells me that he will paint it. Probably very very well
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>>51405490
That's why Emps should have used Endurance on Morty, just after he coughed his lungs out.
To show him a little help, even of psykers, is useful.
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8 alphas to everyone getting everything

or not
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>>51402181
This. It was kind of sad that Blight was fucking surprised that everyone thought they sacked.
Then I saw his models on ADB's blog, and some things started to click
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>>51403500
If I could toss you a yuengling through the Internet, I would
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>>51408471
>Why do the Aussies 30k so much better than the rest of us?
>Look at that battlefield. Look that those models.
>Meanwhile, all the US is putting up is shit painted IWs, armies that are 90% converted 40k models (mostly badly as well), and shit like that

Simple really, GW plastic cost nearly as much as Forgeworld stuff down there (because FW simply charges in pounds, rather than converting to AUS$ at a huge mark-up), so if you want an army, why not go for an all Forgeworld one, it's just as expensive as plastic and it looks cooler.
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>>51404959
This pleases me. A lot
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>>51408471
Because Americans are basically sub-human, but aren't smart enough to recognise it
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>>51408506
Except IW.
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>>51407213
>FW won't make Bullocks because GW's making their next Ravenwing kit as Bullock jetbikes
>plastered with DA symbols that will be hard to file off
>pilot legs moulded into the hulls with MkVII legs and DA symbols all over them
>FW won't release Bullock rules and since they won't have heavy weapons on them, you have to make shitty conversions to run them as dildoebikes
>people will call you out for proxying grorious forge worrd resin dirdoebikes with shitty GW prastics, rike a poorfag
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Funny thought, Forgelord with rad grenades with a veteran bodyguard equipped with power maces? Making the enemy T 3 and having S 6 themselves should Insta kill a lot, if one rolls correctly of course. Would it be a viable/fun way of using a forge lord?
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Secutarii are a new branch of the Taghmata army list. Can never have automata in the detachement; big focus on infantry and transports.
Secutarii Psiloi, fast attack.
Secutarii Hetairoi, elite.
Secutarii Hypaspists, elite.
Secutarii Heleposis, open topped transport (20 capacity).

Cybernetica has new options.
Vidrios Caster Array, upgrade for Cybernetica HQs that allows counting as psyker.
Psy-Conduit upgrade, models gain FNP/FNP++ if a psyker is within 24"
Zetiark, female archmagos who developed with the Thousand Sons the crystalline circuits needed to control automata.

Thousand Sons
Sekhmet Terminators, elites that must pick a singular cult that radically alters their behaviour and/or statline.
Seshat Veterans, infiltrators tasked with securing artifacts and assassination from behind enemy lines.
Cataphraktos Psy-Automata, troops that a psyker within 24" must harness a WC to activate them until next turn.

Space Wolves
Hirdmen Veterans, fast attack with optional jump pack, combat shields and tons of melta/plasma weapons.
Varangian Great Guard Terminators, elites with two-handed great weapons or sword & board in the style of firedrakes.
Despoilers (Destroyers), elites with jump packs and fully equipped with smaller rad weapons.
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>>51408871
t. literally irrelevant country
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>>51408987
sauce? sounds believable and also pretty dang cool. psychic cybernetica would be brutal
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>>51403528
But there are still openings in the shield wall that shrapnel could get through. Also stuff like grenades and other explosive projectiles could just be thrown over the Space Marines and get them from behind.
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>>51408987
>>51409016
We had this already IIRC, all apparently bullshit that someone made up. I do expect some similar stuff, though.
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>>51408987
>>51409016
lel
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>>51409044
>>51409040
I should have known better
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>>51409040
In that case, kudos to whoever wrote it up for sounding mostly believable.
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>>51408989
He's probably from Bosnia or Albania.
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>>51409084
I mean, on second reading a 20-man open topped transport for Peltasts would be the definition of broken as fuck wishlisting, so I really should have seen through it
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>>51408987
Lovely """intelligence""", 10/10 would post
t. Bell of Lost Souls
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>>51408518
>and some things started to click
like?
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>>51408987
>Seshat Veterans, infiltrators tasked with securing artifacts and assassination from behind enemy lines.
I know this is bullshit but I want this so bad. Preferred enemy(relic holder) or someshit like that. Or get a VP for securing a relic by killing a character with one.

If this happens I'm totally painting up some pre-heresy Blood Ravens to trigger everyone.
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>>51409490
You might be getting something-ish like that?

FW said the sons are getting a unit of psychic, prescient assassins and the wolves a special variant of destroyers.
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>>51409516
They also said Inferno would be out ages ago, so you know, with a grain of salt and all.
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>>51409569
except for the part where the book was already at the printers when they said that
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>>51409235
I'll be honest, I skipped down to the TS and SW stuff. Didn't even read the rest.
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>>51409462
They look like shit.
Bro probably doesn't even play that much.
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Less than 8 days now!
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I'm sure it's been answered before, but can I buy Rhinos under the troops slot? Not as mandatory troops, but they are listed as troops, but some guys can't buy them as dedicated transports. Could I get them as extra slots?
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>>51410694
Dedicated Transport is not a FOC slot. You can buy Dedicated Transports only for units that have the option to take them.
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>>51410791
Okay, cool. Thanks
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Big ask, but does anyone have a picture of the quote in Conquest where it mentions Death Guard loyalists in Dusk Raiders iconography fightin' some dudes?
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Picked up some old plastic sob rhinos/immolaters in a big tank bid, they look suitably Deimos pattern barring the fronts. Do you think anyone would mind? Pic related.
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>>51411292
>>51401806
Plan is to remove the turret and put in place a twin linked bolter in place of the usual two.
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Genetor anon here. Just discovered the Spire of Dawn box, which is £40 online for 40 Clanrats for Levies, a couple HQs to make into levy Sarges or rogue psykers or something and two Rat Ogres I can make into Biologis Vorax or something easily enough. That's a lot of stuff, plus a whole bunch of"Aelves" I can probably eBay.

Mix in a Ghoul box or two, the Gants and a few Skitarii spares and I could have all the levies soonish. That will help considerably.
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>>51411292
Interesting and obscure conversions are the lifeblood of the game, battle brother. Go ahead.

Which legion are you doing it for?
I'm getting a technically-handy/traitor vibe.
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Local flgs is running a Horus Heresy league. About to head into a 1250 round and looking at running mechanicum. This is what I've decided upon so far:

+Archmagos (Ordinator, Archmagos, Abeyant, Mastercrafted Photon Thruster, Paragon Blade, Cyber Familiar, Cortex Controller, Augury Scanner, Infravisor) 280

+Adsecularis Covenant (20 man, Carapace Armour, Rite Of Pure Thought, Revenant Alchemistry) 125
+Thallax Cohort (3 man, Photon Thruster) 160
+Castellax Maniple (2 man, Darkfire Lance's, Enhanced Targeting Array) 280

+Krios Venator 150
+Krios Tank 125
+Krios Tank 125

Archmagos sits with Castellax. It's rumoured that the mission for this round is set as a shadow war mission where you have to kill the opposing warlord with your warlord to gain VP, hence why he's decked out.
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>>51411533
>HH at 1250
>mechanicum at 1250

You will be just fine.
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>>51411545
I wanted to take my Night Lords but they're not yet painted up and I haven't got enough time between now and when it starts to get them done.
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>>51411292
That's just asking to transport some true-scale space marines.

Man, if the Deimos had been like that modernized, instead of a 3rd party conversion kit for the plastic Rhino, I would actually give a fuck.
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>>51411533
Might want to toss a power fist on the Archmagos instead of the Blade if he can take them, since you'll hit last anyway and can tank enemy Fist hits. Also I would personally slash Revenants from the Thralls and upgrade another Krios to Venator (if you have the model) or buy some melee weapons for the Castellax, since it's not doing much without Heavy Chainblades. Otherwise shiny.
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>>51411292
I believe those are just metal add-ons to the standard Deimos front, so you could pop them off if you really wanted to.
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>>51411650
>>51411484
My current project is regs sized Deathguard, but Pert's boys are sounding pretty appealing.

>>51411675
It is super tempting, but I sort of like the bits.
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Dear HHG, have you got any hope for an update of Thanatar Calix or Domitars? Or do you think they are pretty much only good for vehicle heavy lists and fluff games?
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>>51408888
Expect UM getting cyclone termies before us
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>>51412796
I think one of the guys on the Sons of Heresy podcast managed to get good use out of Domitars. Not sure of the details.

Crappy units do eventually get improved, but the schedule depends on whether FW immediately follows GW into 8th edition or not. We have no way of knowing. If they do, then everything gets reset relatively soon. If they stick with 7th, they’ll issue their own HH-only FAQ but probably not touch the red books until 2018. They’d probably be rewritten after Angelus.
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>>51412796
Domitars got one, it's called the Arlatax. Really they need to knock about 30 pts off it and give it I4 and WS5, just so it's more competent than a kitted Castellax.

Calix just needs a bigger gun. Make it Ordnance 2 or 3, and possibly give it something along the lines of ExoShock, since it's inferior in pretty much all situations to a Deredo, a regular Thanatar, a couple Darkfire Castellax or a single Krios Venator. It should have a job of locking down Superheavy guns like the SicV.
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Finally finished the Sicaran.
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>>51413066
Side view.
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>>51413089
zog me, it's bootiful
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>>51413066
The tracks could use some nuln oil but otherwise not bad
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>>51413156
Cheers. That tracks are intentionally like that to match my rhinos and, at a distance, to look more like dust. I'm not sure if nuln oil would work well for that, as it's darken the recesses again.
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>>51413233
Some weathering powder would have worked better for the dusty look, or maybe sponging it on or even just drybrushing. Now it looks a bit like that Sicaran has been driving through chocolate milk
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>>51412821
>implying IW's ever gonna get CML termies
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So is a mixed Mechanicum force viable? I know the optimal approach is to focus on the Robots of artillery, but I wanted to do a Reductor primary, with an Archimandrite, a Magos Reductor and a Dominus as Hqs, and add in a Vorax or Castellax unit to my Reductor, as well as maybe a Thanatar. Allied Detachment will be Milita and Cults for the"100 Levies Rending and Zealot" tactic. Plus two Thallax cohorts should be plenty of scoring. Add in a Medusa or two, a Vulturax, a Krios Venator and a squad of Myrmidons and a Transport, and probably a squad of Enginseers or something to stick the Reductor Magos in, and that's pretty neatly 3k. Would that be viable for non-cheese games?
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>>51408987

Delete this before BOLS, Bolter and Chainsword and Faeit post it as real again.
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>>51405104
That's my siege-breaker, and he's EC
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>>51413268
>http://pastebin.com/k9uvqsub
Now I can't unsee that. At any rate, giving the tracks a drybrushing of black to darken them down again and that looks better.
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>>51413268
Well there we go, darkened the tracks. Cheers, they do look better.
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>>51411242
Not in this phone, sorry.
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>>51413762
Good work. Perty approves
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>>51413762
This looks more realistic (less like a brown wash).
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What are the Seven Wonders of the Imperium?
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>>51414983
Got to have the Temple of All Knowledge and the Graian Crown/Martian equatorial ring as one or two of them.
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>>51414983
Borealum.
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>>51414983
The Emperor's Throne Room
Grand Temple of the Omnissiah
Mausoleum on Dwell
the tallest spire on Necromunda
Perturabo's favorite project on Olympia
I'm sure Macragge has something
Fulgrim's cock
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>>51414983
There was a short excerpt taken from the "Seven Hundred Wonders of the Imperium of Man" in an old White Dwarf.
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>>51414983

The Imperial Palace on Terra.

The Temple of All-Knowledge on Mars.

The Fang of Fenris.

The Shrine of Guilliman on Macragge.

The Convent of the Sisters of Battle on Ophelia VII.

Kolossi, the Fortress of the Knights of Raven.

The Pylons of Cadia
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>>51414983
Magnus' Pyramid of Photep was considered one of the greatest repositories of culture and knowledge.
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>>51414983
The parade ground at Ullanor has to be one of them.
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>>51415075
>The Pylons of Cadia
RIP in piece.
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>>51414983
The [REDACTED] on [REDACTED].

The [REDACTED] of [REDACTED] on [REDACTED].

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The [REDACTED] of [REDACTED].

The [REDACTED] of the [REDACTED] on [REDACTED].

The [REDACTED], the [REDACTED] of [REDACTED].

The [REDACTED]

+++Your inquiry to [REDACTED] has been noted and memorized.+++
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>>51414983
OUR FORGE WORLDS, THAT WE MAY BUILD THIS IMPERIUM

OUR ADEPTUS ASTARTES, THAT WE MAY CRUSH THE XENOS

OUR NOBLE ARMY, THAT WE MAY KEEP OUR WORLDS SAFE

OUR MIGHTY NAVY, THAT WE MAY SAIL THE STARS

OUR ADMINISTRATUM, THAT OUR EMPIRE MAY RUN SMOOTHLY

OUR HOME TERRA, THAT ACROSS THE GALAXY GUIDES US BY HER LIGHT

OUR EMPEROR, THAT LEADS US ALWAYS
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>>51414983
The Imperial Palace of Terra.
The Photep Pyramid of Prospero
The Iron Ring of Mars
The Phalanx of the Imperial Fleet
The Parade Ground at Ullanor
The Mountains of Hera at Macragge
The Great Bastion around the Ocularis Terribus
>>51415287
This works too.
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>>51415287
That's beautiful, anon.
I'm certain you'll appear on the next thread.
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What's the best way to represent Ashen Claws on the table?

Obviously in terms of models, it'll be a mix of Mk. II and looted newer suits, probably Mk. V and the like, but on the rules side what fits them best. Blackshield? Just using the Raven Guard rules?
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>>51415385
Either WS BS 5 chymirae or Outlanders + RG.
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>>51415287
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>>51415361
Im the VA for rogal dorn in TTS.

Thank you for my new discord/skype avatar.
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>>51415049
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>>51415643
yo anon, if this is true, i like your work
good job
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Anyone know a good way to make Medusae barrels short of buying the pricy FW ones? My Reductor need two, so I thought I'd swap the barrels on a Basilisk instead.
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>>51415643

What are you doing here? This is HHG. We're like, 10,000 years too early for you.
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>>51415679
Cut the shield a little lower and cut off the thinnest part of the Earthshaker's barrel?
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>>51415643

If this is true, what did you think of Dorn killing Alpharius?
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>>51415673
Thanks man, I appreciate it.

>>51415702
I'm here to here to stack mass and eat ass.

>>51415743
an unavoidable and unfortunate series of events. Literally all of this could have been avoided.
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>>51405104
The conversion work is pretty good, but the gas can phospex bomb is fucking dumb.
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>>51415780
>an unavoidable and unfortunate series of events. Literally all of this could have been avoided.

...by firing John French and Laurie Goulding?
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>>51415804
Out of a cannon.
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Show us your workstation /HHG/. Here's mine, Apologies for potato quality, my iPhone is a iPhone 2 and old as balls.
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>>51409129
What do
> Eye of Horus
> Northern Heresy
And many other podcasts have in common?
They already cover HH, and are undoubtedly better than this shit
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>>51415804
To quote dorn "Yes but also no."

Guilliman wasted way to much time on the imperium secundus and spent the equivalent of 15 seconds saying "WELP TERRA IS GONE THANK GOODNESS I HAVE MY OWN GALACTIC EMPIRE." if Guilliman had moved his ass to terra the 3 year long (or so) fighting retreat dorn was doing might have not seen alpharius and him meet in combat, now with the entire ultramarine legion in sol along with the imperial fists, white scars, and blood angles.

Horus would have been trapped and crushed. the tratior primarchs might have escaped but for sure some would have been captured.

Just some thoughts.
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>>51415846
>yet more Strayah HH players come to show up the rest of us
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>>51415847

This shit hasn't even started yet. And why not suggest how we can ensure it doesn't end up as shit, instead of bashing it before it's even begun.
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>>51413089
> Well painted IWs
It's a sign... of the End Times!
Also your probably not American
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>>51415862
But then we wouldn't have a 10,000 year story, would we?
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>>51415722
Hey, that actually works. I thought I'd have to make a whole new barrel, but I just realised I have some Skaven Stormvermin parts lying around. I can probably add some bits to the sides of the barrel to make it look more DarkMech Biologis and not just a smaller Basi. Thanks.
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>>51415906
Correction, Skaven StormFIENDS. Damn all these similar names. I have the same problems with the Baneblade types and every Khorne daemon ever.
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>>51415882
> suggestion on how to ensure it isn't shit
Abort it in the womb.
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>>51415882
Everybody who plays IW and AL or more accurately, want to play but don't are to be immediately banned from the project.
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>>51415935
>rat fetus powered artillery
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>>51415987
Can they launch a 95kg Fetus up to 300 metres?
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>>51415897
Cheers!

I'm not too sure why I'd not be American because of the painting...? I mean I am English so good guess.
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>>51415987
>>51416014

Admittedly, that does sound like something the Dark Mechanicum would probably try. Screw it, that's now my fluff for the Phosphex shells. They're the dissolved remains of the flash-clone hordes that don't quite work out right, horrific melty poisons and all.

Now I just need to greenstuff my Cyber-Occularis and replicate some Spore mines to stack up as ammo on the gunners platform.

Also, shave all the fucking eagles off of every unit I try to convert. I swear they put them everywhere that's just too thin to file completely without messing something up. There's about 5 on the Basilisk, more on the Baneblade and the crewmen

Going to run out of Cogs Mechanicus/Mechanicum to replace them with soon.
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>>51415780
Are you really? That's pretty cool anon, you do the voice well. Great delivery on a lot of the lines, I'm really enjoying Dorn's relationship/interactions with Emps.

Keep doing the Emperor's work buddy
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>>51416019
>leviathans as chubby as their primarch
awwwwwwww
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Apart from adding pipes and shit to the back and fucking about with the gun muzzle, what else can I do to convert the Cataphractii in the BaC set to Grave Wardens - I'm never going to use them as vanilla so I might as well make them work for me
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>>51416118
Chaos space marines, both terminators and regular marines, have a bit that is a chain tabard, much like the Grave Wardens from FW have.
That would be a step in the right direction, as well as using the Death Guard Cataphractii shoulder pads.
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Barring the packs, are axe-man and helmet-dude from this set acceptable 30k miniatures?

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marine-Masters-of-the-Chapter
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>>51415897
>your
REEEEE, IT IS YOU'RE OR YOU ARE.
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>>51415846
>iPhone 2
A what?
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>>51416189
>Axeman-
MkVII legs and armor so probably no

>Helmet dude
MkIII armor, yes

>Hammer/ Tricked out bolter.
You could 'get away' with calling this MkVI corvus armor thanks to the legs, but thats pushing it a little. If you want to use these as well, you should probably GS the torso's.
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Remember to do this before posting
>copy !!7XgWMYDRj1y
>settings
>Filters & Post Hiding
>Filter and highlight specific threads and posts
>edit
>past !!7XgWMYDRj1y into pattern
>type: tripcode
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>>51415882
Podcasts are starting to proliferate. Sons of Heresy is new and actually useful if you're new - I like it more than Varangian Heresy and Geno Five Two. Also not a fan of Imperial Truth and After Ullanor.

I haven't listened to Covenant of Fire or Northern Heresy yet. My regular fare is Eye of Horus, Radio Free Isstvan, and Age of Darkness.
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>>51416189
I think axe-man's the least convincing, since he seems to have pretty pure MkVII armour. Helmet dude's ok, he's in MkIII (and now I want him as a sergeant for my MkIII squad). bolter and hammer dudes have MkVI, so they're ok as well. Axe dude has a MkVII suit, so he's the least qualified. Unless you can alter his suit to be more like a MkV.

Also, helmet and axe dudes have cruxes on their shoulders, which might need some filing.
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>>51416272
Don't acknowledge him. Have a Jackson.
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>>51416547
I heard that he killed every assasin who came after him. Is this true?
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>>51416590
I didn't think AWG was that tough
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>>51416590
No he couldn't. I survived, and now I will finally get t-
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>>51416547
The populace must know what to do in an emergency, have a control panel.
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>>51415862
Travel was blocked by the Ruinstorm. The White Scars didn't make it to Terra without a special plot device, and the UM wouldn't have either.
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>>51416590
I think it was just that one guy that was trying to out crazy him. Fun fact: Trump has placed a painting of Jackson in the Oval Office and apparently has a statue of the madman now.
>>51416680
I'll give you that at least.
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>>51416725
>Travel was blocked by the Ruinstorm.
Unless you happen to be sufficiently bishie.
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>>51416019
A lot of us have noticed that stuff gets painted more often and to a higher standard in Europe and Australia. It may be that military modeling lost its popularity earlier in the US, so we have less experience. Dunno.

We do have good painters here, but weathering is definitely a weakness in the American scene.
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>>51403066
I went full retard with my B@C tactical sergeant and gave him a combi bolter as a pistol because I couldn't find bolt pistols on the sprue. It does look a little weird, but not too terrible.
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>>51416019
Because all the shit painted IW on this thread are by my fellow lazy, cheap, and throughly talentless countrymen. When they look nice I know that come from a different time zone
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>>51416239
Get fucked Grammer nazi
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To settle this, post:

Your Legion
Your Nationality
One of your models, PAINTED
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>>51416845
>Because all the shit painted IW on this thread are by my fellow lazy, cheap, and throughly talentless
But that's everything IWs need.
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>>51416863
Space wolves.
American.

When the weather clears up I will finally be able to paint all of my models.
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>>51414983
Imperial palace

Mars Ring of Iron

Phalanx

Ullanor parade grounds

Great pyramid of Tizca

I'm out
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>>51416863
May as well.

Iron Warriors and England, though it's been mentioned already.
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>>51416863
Bitter Boys
French
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>>51416863
Iron Tenth!
US

Also SoH, next post
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>>51417426
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>>51416863
Iron Warriors
Northern Ireland
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>>51417448
It might be because I'm tired, but with that face it looks like he is desperately trying to squeeze one out
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>>51417798
Dammit anon, all faces look as constipation to you, stop projecting!
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>>51416863
Iron Warriors
Norway
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>>51417818
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>>51416750
To be fair, Sanguinius probably fist fucked every daemon in the way until the Ruinstorm was sufficiently scared out of the way.
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>>51417872
>Dat pre-nurgle DG
Moar pics plz
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>>51417872
I'm also curious about that dark SoH there on the left if you have more pics
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>>51416863
Death Guard
USA
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>>51416863
The OTHER Iron guys
America
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I just pulled a white coffee mug with blue trim out of the cupboard, and it had a fresh fingerprint of blood on it.

Is this a sign from Khorne to choose the World Eater's as my 30k legion?
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>>51417927
>>51417970
Sure. These are just test models for stuff I may or may not do in the future. Need to finish my IW first.
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>>51416863
Raven Guard
Mexico
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>>51418343
Very nice. How'd you get that dark green? Could be cool for Lupercii or fallen SoH later on
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>>51418385
Love your RG, Tacobro.
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>>51418343
I forgot SoH had those torsos. I wonder what one would look like on a Rubric Marine with the eye painted as glowing with energy and being sort of the "heart" of the suit while the actual helmet was empty and lifeless.
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So why does everyone play IW? They're not the edgiest (NL), not the coolest (UM), not the shootiest (IF), not the tankiest (IH), not the most autistic (WB), or even the most tacticool (RG).

They're just..... bitter. So why?
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>>51418385
Now that's a Beakie. Nice work, Pablo.
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>>51418385
I love that helmet and, is that a bolt pistol with a side magazine? Nice.
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>>51418414
Black primer -> Lupercal Green -> zenithal Sons of Horus green -> nuln oil gloss > Sybarite Green highlights. I tried a couple other approaches but I didn't like them very much. I wanted to make Sotek Green over white primer work because it's a great colour but I struggled to get it working beyond the base.

>>51418501
SoH have some pretty cool stuff, unfortunately all their shoulder pads are in my experience pretty awful. Fortunately their transfers are nice.
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>>51418511
you're on /tg/ and you're asking why a legion of angry autists is the most popular?
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>>51418511
>most autistic
>word bearers
That would be the ultra sues or the dangles, lad. Autists are usually overwhelmingly athiest
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>>51418511
BECAUSE WE'RE FUCKING BITTER >:^)
Also,
>RG tacticool
>Not AL
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>>51418511
Because the IW are all those things in modest doses rather than being an extreme.
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>>51418511
Not an IW player but I'd say they ARE the shootiest. IF are durable; IW have shootier special units and shootier rites of war.

They're also easy to paint and footslogging armies are popular because they're cheaper to build. And they can be used as loyalists without too much trouble (hopefully not by calling them Imperial Fists...).
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>>51409129
I'm the poncy editor anon who was moaning about the poor literary appreciation of the community podcasts, I'm not really up for a /hhg/ podcast, but was considering making super short clips running down the literary refs, inspiration meanings etc of random particular things. To add to my own hobbying more than anything else, who the fuck's gonna watch that kind of shit.
But if you or someone from your crew suggests a topic I might knock out a 5 minute segment to see if it works, it might tie into your shit in some way, I dunno. Like WarhamsTV quick tips but literary info. Could be anything
>Top 10 reasons why Deathfire is the worst pastiche of the Odyssey ever written.
Hmm maybe not
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>>51418554
Well.... fair point. But it's just weird that this many people play IW/DG/AL instead of other legions.

I mean, Fists, Iron Hands, and Dark Angels are just as autistic, they're just 'nicer' about it. So why do so few anons play them?
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>>51418511
I like their fluff, their look, 4 is ly lucky number, and the idea of marines not giving a shot and running straight between bombardments to kneefuck you at terminal velocity is absolutely rad beyond measure.

At some point I'm hoping I can grab a solid artist to have him draw IW doing just that, because that's the HH for yours truely. If Rotaken ever does commissions again, I'll ask him.
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>>51418511
Easy paint scheme
Guns guns guns
Under-appreciated we'd be happy if senpai noticed us theme
I'm upset at being treated like shit so I'm gonna shoot up the school glee
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>>51418571
RG are DEVGRU
AL is the CIA
>>
Well fuck, all this talk of Masters of the Chapter made me go and find the MkIII armoured one on eBay to be my breacher squad sergeant.
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>>51418689
You motherfucker, I want that one! He's mine!

My backlog is so big though...
But I agree he's the only Master of the Chapter usable in HH and he's easy to modify since his arms aren't attached and so is the head.
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>>51418598
You know, I actually would watch that. I like the premise of things like those '40 facts' videos, but it's usually pretty entry-level stuff and also provides no reference to where they get the information. But I guess that's YouTube in general.

If you did a series cataloging campaigns, people, or groups I'd be totally down, just so long as you provide sources. Go for it anon
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>>51418663
Hmm, I dont quite know the GRU (beyond Metal...Gear?), but AL are definitely CIA, complete with their Big Guys.
>>51418651
Wew lad
>>51418607
>it's just weird that this many people play IW/DG/AL
Is it weird those are my three favourite legions, alongside their counterparts as next three favs?
I simply dont relate to heroic types. Rather, as a destroyer or human tool, complete with the lack of recognition and self-disrespect and the "keep going regardless of circumstance".
Maybe it's a stereotype of us melancholic types.
>>51418616
Ooh this is nice
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>>51418511

Easiest to paint
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>>51416863
Raven Guard
AmeriCAN

>>51418385
Victorus Aut Mortis
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>>51408950
Sounds about right.

Feelsbadman.jpg
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>>51418825
Kek, sorry, forgot this wasn't /k/
DEVGRU is Seal Team Six basically, it's official moniker referring to that unit and it's support.
>>
Odd question, but who are the best of the original traitor legions to play as loyalists on the tabletop?

Something about the idea of doomed units staying loyal when their peers all turn against the Emperor really appeals to me, and it would be nice to use one of the actual loyalist characters as my HQ.
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>>51414983
The Phalanx is one.
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>>51419040
>Something about the idea of doomed units staying loyal when their peers all turn against the Emperor really appeals to me, and it would be nice to use one of the actual loyalist characters as my HQ.
IRON
WARRIORS
UNTIL
THE
B I T T E R
E N D
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>>51419040

Iron warriors are being retconned to be almost like opposite Dark angels: it seems like half of the IW ended up staying loyal or at the very least, not being told to go traitor
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>>51418728
There's plenty of them to go. I just got the cheapest metal I could. Now I just have to figure out how to get all the equipment on him. Probably gonna skip giving him a shield (something-something artificer suit internal shield technobabble) and slap on a combi-melta and a close combat weapon.
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>>51419120
Because the legion, big as it was, had been ordered to spread thin time and time again, and while some Primarchs refused such orders and some even fought as a full legion, Perturabo complied, time and time again.

Just like AL splinter cells, the IW expeditionary fleets were issued orders and basically abandoned to their luck, or lack thereof.

After all, necessity brings the best of you. And if Perturabo had one redeeming trait was that he was remorseless to his children, and the best were raised so.

Golg became ruthless as he was because he took to heart the decimation, his knuckles still dripping his brother's blood.

Dantioch was abandoned as a sacrificial force against the logic-defying madness of the Hrud.

Kyr was left to his own devices, and had to seek allegiances by his own accord. Un the end, after the AL vipers betrayed him, he didnt hesitsate to break their ship under the ram of his, and it was his allied mechanicum who saved him, not uncaring Terra or his former kin.
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>>51419040
Dark Angels.
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>>51416863
Traitor Mechanicum fo life
Australia
>>
So what we've learned is that USAnons can't paint for shit, and all eurofags play IW?
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>>51416286

Yes. and a /hhg/ Podcast can do what none of them will do. We have a freedom to criticize, critique, swear and more that none of the more mainstream podcasts would dream of. And we need to use that freedom.
>>
>>51416863
Word Bearers
Canada

His left shoulder is just tacked on, as I'm waiting for my FW shoulders to come in.
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>>51419475
More or less. Maybe the American Anons can't paint.
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>>51419523
You do realize that's going to drive more people here, right?
And they're going to be following those on the podcast- those with names.
And they're going to think it's okay to have names here too, when they see Trap, AWG, etc. on here.

You're going to destroy the anon culture you've tried so hard to cultivate.
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>>51419585
Noice, that is exactly how Word Bearers should be painted
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>>51419639

FoWg have their own podcast, and it hasn't destroyed their culture.
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>>51419640
tbqh I like anon's blue eyes and black helmet.

I think I'll do a couple test models, one with green eyes, one with blue.
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>>51419813
I go with black helmets on my vets, red helmets on my regular tacticals. The black helmets were a gamble that really paid off.
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>>51419846
Yeah, I'll be running mine as vets with double meltaguns.

Mmm... meltaguns.
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>>51419639
> thinking the podcast will be successful
Sweet summer child
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>>51419870
One squad of plasma, one of melta. First game with what I've got is on Sunday against some Iron Warriors.
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>>51418511
Easy to paint, reminds old grognards of the cheesy ass years of 3.5, and the easy to win nature of spamming artillery in this game, while being fluffy -OF COURSE THAT'S HOW THEY ARE IN THE BOOKS MAN- appeals to the weak and pathetic of this hobby.
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Still haven't nailed down a legion or colour scheme & new zealand. These two are the options I'm considering for a IInd Legion force, sorry for potato quality.
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>>51420121
Have faith, Word Bearer.
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>>51416863
It makes me happy that I caused this
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Night guys. Have this odd bed I found.
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>>51419475
As I foretold
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>>51419663
>Comparing FoWg to hhg
>Comparing a sub-culture built off of respect for historical accuracies to that of screeching armor autists
Wew

>>51420104
I was born in may...
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>>51420214
You're truly a comedic genius.
>>
>>51420340
>"REEEE this tiny little US soldier has the wrong type of webbing!"
>"REEEE wrong number of spokes on this tank wheel!"
>"REEEE wrong style of side armour!"
>"REEEE wrong number of rivets on the back plate of this tank!"
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>>51416863
Alpha Legion
Canada
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>>51420755
Pretty cool, what recipe do you use? FW one, altered in any way?
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>>51420877
Similar to the FW way of clear coats of metallics.

Except I use Vallejo metallics and clear teal from Badger
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>>51421024
Vallejo aluminium?
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>>51421043
Vallejo steel as a base with silver for hilights
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