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Pathfinder General /pfg/
New Gods, Old Gods, Middle Age Gods:
What sort of deities have your characters worshiped? What Deities have you created? Discovered? Became?
>FRIENDLY REMINDER: If you need help with a build or character creation, mention what 1st and 3rd-party sources you're allowed! You can't complain if we offer Path of War or Spheres of Power if you never said that you were limited to 1st-party, after all!
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Old Thread: >>51383722
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The deity that helps me shed the blood of the saxon men
GLORY TO THE KING OF FRANKS
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>>51393757
There is only one deity for me.
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>>51393865
I shed the blood of saxon mem.
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>>51393914
How many saxon men?
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>>51393865
>mfw no Saxon men in Golarion to shed the blood of
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>>51393757
Newest character I've played worships Erastil. Devoutly, too; I haven't played a devoted worshiper of anything in a long time.
He fully believes people should court, marry, and better their community while raising several children, that both their legacy and their land improves with every generation right alongside their neighbors.
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>>51393926
400 saxon mem!
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>>51393974
Damn
Thats like
20 pagan villages right there
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>>51393984
Not enough pagan blood was sheded that day.
https://youtu.be/MC0S60Gp5rM
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Tell me about your party's antics /pfg/!
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>>51393974
>>51393926
>>51393914
>>51394002
W-Where do you shed the blood of Saxon men?
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>>51394002
it is amazing that christopher lee was literally a secret agent that inflintrated into germany and killed nazis while doing it
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>>51393958
>half your party is gay or lesbian adulterers who don't want kids in 3...2...1...
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I'm having a staff with my GM about something and I need a voice of reason. I'm playing a half elf, does that mean that due to the elf blood racial trait I can use elven weapons as martial?
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>>51394040
if you don't have the alternate racial trait for it, then no, you can't
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Is piercing thunder worth a trait for a harbringer? I kind of want it but the kicker is that I'm not a huge fan of going omen rider.
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>>51394039
That's the one manga with the Elf that's trying to loose weight because she's addicted to french fries right?
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>>51394039
TenRyuJin!
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>>51394089
Now featuring a dark elf with a huge ass.
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>>51394089
Yeah, when I saw that pose in the newest chapter I just had to. I mean look at them.
I'm not even into "thicc" as y'all call it tastewise, I just find it funny s'all.
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>>51394099
>Dark Elf with a huge ass
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>>51393757
My WotR character will likely become the god of dark knights by the end of campaign
Domains: Law, Magic, Trickery, War
Subdomains: Ambush, Arcane, Divine, Tactics
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>>51393585
The monk has dimension door dude. Abundant step pounces will fuck your shit up. There is like no way to keep the monk from turning your face into pulp. Plus the saves are good.
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>>51394040
>does that mean that due to the elf blood racial trait I can use elven weapons as martial?
>elven blood
>Half-elves count as both elves and humans for any effect related to race.
Do you think half-elves should be able to receive free immunity to sleep, +2 racial bonus on perception, +2 dex, +2int, -2 con, and a floating free +2, skilled, free bonus feat, elven magic, and low light vision as well?
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Ok so I've noticed that pfg games really hate overoptimization with a passion. So if one were interested in joining a game of yours, am I better off going with a slightly suboptimal PC that may end up being a liability, or one thats on the optimized side but sand bags massively?
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>>51394018
Fun fact:
The reason why he was so fixated in Charlemagne was that his family is heir to a minor noble of said kaizer's court.
I like to think he lied on that and he found out he was a direct descendant.
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>>51394118
Yes.
>>51394125
>if one were interested in joining a game of yours
Then they should see a psychiatrist.
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>>51394010
In /osrg/
Charlemagne fantasy historical setting for AD&D.
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>>51394110
The character I'm working on might become the (minor spoilers)High King of Sarkoris.
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>>51394162
So it takes before the downfall of Sarkoris or after Wrath of the Righteous?
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>>51394116
>Wizard wins init because wizard
>Casts dimension door 800 ft in random direction
>Starts summoning shit to kill the monk or enhances his defenses to the point where time is on his side
The monk will never pass the Per check to even find the wizard, and if he feels like being a dildo he can even do cruel shit like drop quickened silent images of himself standing around all over the place as he continues to teleport randomly.
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>>51394187
After, of course! This is all epilogue stuff and the fact I'm making him a Kellid empowered by the patron goddess Pulura.
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>>51394219
It is a cool idea but its more dramatic if you play it before then you play Wrath and at some point your PC finds a statue of your older Pc in his days of glory.
"Who was he? "
" A man that belonged to an age of wonders in a realm of legends. His name may be forgotten but his deeds never will. "
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>>51394293
The statue has been corrupted, the lands defiled by the demonic taint, yet oral tradition still carries the PC's legend through song and story.
Alas, this campaign is not a prequel to the Worldwound, for now I am simply yet another lost soul among a wandering people, the diaspora still clinging to hopes that one day their homeland will be restored and justice shall be given thrice-over.
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>>51394039
>>51394099
I love how the dark elf wants to slim her bum isn't because she's embarrassed by it. but because her magic gear doesn't fit anymore.
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>>51394075
Piercing Thunder is usable. And... that's pretty much it. It doesn't even get mildly interesting until you hit 4th level maneuvers, its stances by and large work better as feats or class features, and overall its utility is pretty damn limited. So mechanically, it's pretty anus.
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Keep watching this spaceNot going to do Healer's Handbook though since it was already leaked.
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>>51394607
Please be Qadira book.
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>>51394607
Please be Courtly Politics.
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>>51394138
>you can charge as a standard action if you have already moved
No, you can charge as a standard action ONLY if you were restricted to only a standard action for your turn.
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>>51394670
I ain't some kind of time mage like Shareanon, I don't have that one.
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>mfw two days until the first RotJR session
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>>51395020
Not until February, my man. Still a ways to go, and people are still working on finalizing their characters and accepting a few of their own poor choices!Starts the day after my Birthday!
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>>51395069
What kind of poor choices? I want to know for fun! It's not even for rumormongering, since I got into a RotJR game too!
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>>51395069
That's an awesome birthday present, anon. I'm happy for you! Which group are you in?
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>>51395083
Having two relatively active classes that use subsystems the player has never EVER used before!Thankfully it's hard to fuck up PoW!
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>>51395100
What happened to the translations of Nozaki-kun anyways? Don't think I've seen one since before xmas?
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So for Welcome To The Jungle I have been building things out. The Eidolon handles dex skills, the familiar knowledges, and my character manages cha skills.
I'm considering changing the familiar to a mascot since I bring a whole team to buff myself and just saying "someone else can do knowledges".
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>>51395376
was the jungle always quiet until guu?
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>>51395376
And I realized strength based animal companions are just plain shit at skills.
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Why is it so hard to write sad scenes
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I was doing some write ups for a Steel Ball Run style game to run for friends, and realized something.
In Steel Ball Run there are 11 Saint's Parts, which is absolutely perfect. Each Saint's Part gives a mythic rank when possessed up to 10. If someone attains all 11 Saint's Parts it puts them over the threshold to attain godhood.
It's great.
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>>51396082
Because you need either practice or instruction.
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>>51395397
>Animal companions are shit at skills
Who would have thought that 2 int doesn't lend itself to good skills?
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>>51394118
No, because most half-elves weren't raised in an Elvish society, so they don't get the Elvish Weapon Familiarity racial feature.
Granted, there is a feat where you can choose to gain that racial feature.
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>>51396233
Not 100% sure who's saying what, but for those who don't know, half-elves can give up Adaptability for Elvish Weapon Familiarity. Elf Blood allows half-elves to choose the Human or Elf FCB, to be the target of spells that specify human only or elf only, to qualify for race locked traits, feats, and archetypes that specify elf or human, or to use equipment that is intended for either of those races.
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Which would you say is better: a level 5 Gunslinger, or a Far Strike Monk 2/Trench Fighter 3? Sure the latter misses out on grit and deeds, but on the upside it has way more feats.
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>>51396518
I'd say go with the second, and pick up Amateur Gunslinger with one of those extra feats.
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When I get magical tattoos, how do I protect them from the Erase spell?
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>>51393757
I once made a drow cleric of Eilistraee in 3.0.
My last PF cleric was an elven cleric of Desna.
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Why are players so unwilling to feel any emotion during gameplay besides anger?
Even when their character is in danger, when longtime NPCs die, anything, all players do is get pissed at something or another.
Fear, happiness, sadness, nothing.
I need to get new players.
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>>51396750
>I need to get new players.
Yeah basically
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>>51393757
I once had an Inquisitor of Tiamat. Kept his worship on the down-low though, but mostly it was just that nobody asked. Had this whole thing planned, was gonna say he worshiped "The Mother", and he would only attack dragons if they were metallic or if they stated they "loved their mother", otherwise he wouldn't touch 'em. Eventually as we'd level his dragon powers would've manifested and FINALLY someone would start asking questions, but it never got to that point sadly.
There was also that time my Paladin became a god of the Fey but that was in5e.
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>>51396732
Presumably by wearing some actual clothes.
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Alrighty boyos, I'll be dumping this. Don't mind me if I'm not talking too much while it's going.
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>>51396929
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!
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>>51396518
Well, Gunslinger is all around pretty underwhelming, so I would say to avoid it.
Trench Fighter's Dex to damage is pretty hard to get elsewhere, but I would say to also combine that with something like Eldritch Guardian for basically a straight upgrade from base fighter, or if you can use PoW, the Myrmidon archetype for another more thorough upgrade. The one thing that you want to *keep* from the base Fighter is weapon training, because advanced weapon training (via feats and weapon training class feature) can give you a bunch of neat abilities.
You'll have a bigger overall problem, though, which is that guns in PF suck and are really expensive. Getting a magic item of Abundant Ammunition can help a lot with the expensive part, but not with stuff like your guns breaking on every natural 1 you roll (which will happen more and more as you get more attacks) and the absurd reload times.
Unfortunately, the stuff that makes guns work well enough to not be a big hassle is almost all third party, like the gunsmoke mystic from PoW:E.
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>>51396883
That's silly!
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>>51396967
You're silly for wanting to be nekkid!
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>>51397002
Oh my god it's a Ponyta!
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>>51396732
source?
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>>51397048
"the internet"
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>>51397021
>Watching Taldor
That is LITERALLY the "Veteran of Battle" trait.
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>>51397038
>Wisdom in place of Charisma for Diplimacy
W E W
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>>51396929
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>>51397038
>Empathic Diplomat
>Wisdom replace Charisma for Diplomacy
BUENO
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>>51397063
chafags BTFO
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>>51397092
>Merchant Academies
>Sub-levels for being a merchant or merchant partner
QADIRAN MERCHANT CAMPAIGN
W
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E
N
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>>51397108
Is it just me, or does the openness with which Paizo likes to present how Qadirans obsess over women and daughters like 19th century America obsessed over men a little odd?
Like, Brevoy is explicitly patriarchal and it never got half as much emphasis as Qadira.
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>>51397160
Probably to prove that they're enlightened and not "sexist". Because to Paizo, sexism is a one-way thing where men keep women down.
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>>51397160
where are you getting this from?
>>51397178
oh quiet.
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>>51393958
Good taste. An Erastil-ite makes for the perfect party dad.
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>>51393757
>What sort of deities have your characters worshiped?
The only character I played that actually worshiped a deity was an insane Lamashtan goblin for a one-shot.
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>>51397204
This is paraphrasing, but
>Families are matrilineal
>Daughters are the source of a family's power and honor, and all inheritance goes to them
>Families curses with sons will pray to a literal demon thing in the Wastes for the chance at a daughter
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>>51397268
ok.
I mean its different from earth. But isn't that the goal?
Also it is a lot easier to track a family though women than though men. You know who's vagina you came out of.
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>>51397299
There is just some lonely anon who keeps getting triggered whenever pathfinder reminds him that women exist. Ignore him.
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>>51397274
Jesus Christ look at those population figures.
Qadira not only is the wealthiest nation in Golarion, it is easily the most populous.
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>>51397328
Per capita Druma is wealthier than Qadira. Possibly as a gross as well, Druma is rich as fuck.
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>>51397299
Well yeah, it just comes as a surprise to someone that's been used to hearing stories about Paizo's views leaking into their campaign that something like a straight "women are the socially dominant ones" is a little surprising, especially since literally everyone else is so egalitarian!
>>51397326
You sound pleasant.
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>>51397311
>Plains of Paresh
Those are some big cities.
Paizo really needs to make some better rules for cities and add sizes above Metropolis.
Where would you draw the line?
I'd make the sizes:
>25,001-50,000
>50,001-100,000
>100,001-250,000
>250,001-500,000
>500,001-1,000,000
What's the largest settlement in Golarion?
Absalom is 300k.
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>>51397363
Is this confirmed? Qadira was always described as astoundingly wealthy.
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>>51397427
The streets of Kerse are paved with gold and jewels.
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>>51397416
Absalom and Goka are the largest, followed by Kasai, Katheer and Oppara.
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>>51397257
>>51397274
>>51397453
>that art
awwww ye
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>>51397502
How the hell many kinds of horse do they really need?
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>>51397474
*flecked* with gemstones, and one wealthy super-city of 50,000 can't possibly equal the wealth of over ten 100,000+ cities like Qadira, who annually send seven solid gold bulls to the Empire as tribute and the Satrap considers it a "trifle."
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Betrothed Avowed can mechanically let me play as a pair of twins, right? Cute, tiefling twins? With guns?
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>>51397483
>The only way one horse breed can be different from another is if they're magical
PAIZOOOOOOO!
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>>51397502
Aaaand that's all folks. Like I said, not doing Healer's Handbook since that got dumped before.
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>>51397527
Of course not.
They just don't need different fucking stats.
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>>51397511
I do, anon.
I need horse.
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>>51397518
Why do so many people focus so much on characters and not on running games?
Is PFG like 95% players or something? Is there a place where DMs can go to talk about stuff?
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>>51397555
Because 95% of the rules, as far as players are concerned, are about making character?
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>>51397539
A Draft horse is not going to have the same speed as a quarterhorse!
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>>51397555
Because running games is hard.
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>>51397586
No one cares.
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>>51397512
All I'm getting fro all this is "this city is super fucking rich and toss solid gold whatevers around like it's nothing SIMPLY BECAUSE WOMEN ARE THE DOMINANT GENDER! SEE HOW MUCH MORE GOLD AND MONEY WE HAVE THEN CITIES RULED BY MEN!"
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>>51397555
>Is PFG like 95% players or something?
It is like 95% players
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>>51397624
Holy fucking shit will you get fucking over it?
It is a rich nation.
Women are dominate.
This doesn't mean one causes the other, quit getting so FUCKING TRIGGERED.
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>>51397624
Holy fuck, take a fucking chill pill and fuck off to 4+4chan if you want to jerk it to this shit.
GODDAMN
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>>51397618
Ouch, that was a blunt response.
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>>51397403
>You sound pleasant.
Take a look at >>51397624 and tell me that I'm being unreasonable.
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Yo all, just letting you know that the class list for SoM is up, it's the most recent update on the kickstarter.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1708940685/spheres-of-might-a-new-pathfinder-martial-system/posts/1791660
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Bookmark it for later threads and until we get a PDF.
http://imgur.com/a/5RZCr
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>>51397724
>armiger
So....why does this exist?
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>>51397502
Shissah vs normal horse
+10 speed, 2 more dex, 2 less con, 2 more wis, 4 more cha, -3 nat armor, 1d6 bite instead of 1d4 and 1d4 hooves instead of 1d6; no low light vision or scent, plus desert stuff.
Post advancement, it catches up on nat armor, gets another 4 dex on top, bite gets one step higher (while horse doesn't).
You basically trade -1 fort, -1 hp/HD (and lowlight/scent) for +3 AC/Ref/Init, better natural attack distribution, +10 speed, +1 to will, and a plethora of minor stuff.
Overall upgrade, I'd say.
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>>51397753
Because it existed in 3.5 in a way.
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>>51397753
Stack has a fetish for hotswap lego classes. Apparently. So I've been told.
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>>51397780
U wot
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>>51397753
I think it's a fun idea myself; and I have to admit I've always kind of wanted a class that actually did use tons of weapons. I mean generally they're different weapons with the armiger, but I love the 'guy who swaps between 9 swords' vibe from some characters, each one having its own 'thing' to it.
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>>51397753
Because we want the Final Fantasy XV crowd?
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>>51397753
O M N I T A C T I C A L B A T T L E H Y D R A
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>>51397696
You're not, I just felt a little rubbed by your response since I was the initial one that got a little weirded out by the emphasis on women.
No other book does this, Brevoy is male-dominated but it only comes up in one tiny snippet and even then it's supposedly just for politics (though I wouldn't doubt it extends into family life.) Does Andoran discuss gender roles and how one gender is more prominent than the other? Does Cheliax or Taldor? I know the Linnorm Kingdoms have a whole gender role thing going on but that's more work than societal.
You must excuse me if this sounds like I'm REEEing, I'm not trying to. I assume this is emphasized because patrilineal lineage is the norm in the rest of Golarion (which it is) and we assume men dominate all levels of Avistani society outside of Holomog and Qadira (which is untrue, as we know from Total Primogeniture most nations seem to follow.)
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>>51397724
>The Technician
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>>51397868
>No other book does this, Brevoy is male-dominated but it only comes up in one tiny snippet and even then it's supposedly just for politics
Because when describing another world, you put the most emphasis on the things that are different from the world your audience is familiar with.
We all know what patriarchal societies look like; we've got plenty of them. I don't see an issue with explaining how a different society works.
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>>51397108
>Solar Bloodline
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>>51397868
Not any of the people involved in this discussion previously, but my assumption is that they're dedicating more time to explaining how shit works precisely because it doesn't generally work that way in our world (there are matrilineal societies but it's kind of laughable to expect paizo to do research at this point).
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So what's gonna happen when they run out of regions?
What regions haven't been done yet?
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>>51397812
The two I'm most curious about it the Troubadour and the Technician.
I Really want to see how these play out.
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>>51397951
Surprisingly enough, Brevoy does not have a book!
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>>51397959
Yeah, I'm curious how a non magic tech guy is gonna work given most "tinkers" are you just cast spells fluffed a gizmos.
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>>51397951
Fucking all of Vudra. They can do a specific book on each country in Tian Xia. Arcadia is totally unexplored. And they still haven't detailed everything in Avistan.
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>>51397881
>>51397959
Troubadour is pretty cool from what I've seen, it's still being tweaked to make sure it completely fits the vibe, but I can tell you that we're looking at other 'imposter' style content to help with it, like the 3.5 chameleon and the factorum.
I have less info on the technician, mostly because I need to look at it more, maybe try to assist on it a bit.
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>>51397951
Dude we don't even know what's in Casmaron besides the Empire.
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>>51398005
Please do. I'm really interested in the Technician, Sage, and Striker.
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>>51397555
Because no-one running an actual game visits /pfg/ that often. Threads are buried quickly because it's just super easy to talk about character building which is 95% of discussions in Pathfinder. The sheer variety of player-facing content lets people study and discuss it and makes it engaging without the need to touch the dice or utter a single word in character. So yeah, it's 95% of the "players".
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>>51398043
Well the striker's in the SoM Preview #2 if you want to check that out.
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>>51397531
>not doing Healer's Handbook since that got dumped before.
Do you know when? Backtracking through the past couple threads and I can't find it.
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>>51397453
>200 gp to ignore AC penalty from charging while mounted
It's not even magical, wtf
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>>51398061
I want to talk about campaign ideas and potential settings!
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>>51393757
My character worships Xhamen Dor. Speaking of, I hear he got an article in the new Strange Aeons.
Hint hint....please?
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>>51398078
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/51107247/#51108488
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>>51398117
I know, right? I love it!
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>>51398123
DHB talks about his a lot and doesn't really get responses.
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>>51398123
That sky-pirate setting sounds interesting. If I wasn't booked out I'd probably have applied.
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>>51398124
Gimme a minute, I was eating.
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>>51398157
Because his setting isn't really interesting to most people, it's not a case of "people don't like to talk shop about settings" because I've seen explosions of lore discussion come from these threads.
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>>51393757
>Old Gods
Quick, what would bring an otherwise ordinary and even sort-of cowardly person to worship a Great Old One?
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>>51398128
Much appreciated!
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>>51398213
http://www.fredvanlente.com/cthulhutract/
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>>51398196
I love you<3
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Hey so. Since Groetus is CN that means CG people can worship him. What would a CG worshipper of the god of oblivion and apocalypse even look like?
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>>51398324
"We're all going to die anyway, so might as well make the world better so we can leave it without feeling bad?"
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>>51398324
>>51398368
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>>51398378
Man, I love those guys.
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>>51398378
>>51398368
Sithrak is such a delightful deconstruction of evil death gods that he feels more dynamic than some of Paizo's.
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>>51398437
Anyway, posting some Xhamen-Dor
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>>51398475
Are YOU ingesting rotten flesh to gain the favor of an ancient alien evil? All the COOL kids are doing it.
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Stat him /pfg/.
Also how was your guys last session?
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>>51398493
And now for some more about the Necronomicon.
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>>51398505
>Stat him
Gods are not statted, anon. And he's clearly Asmodeus.
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>>51398528
Also some bonuses for using it as a spellbook.
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>>51398549
Next up, some eldritch horrors, statted up so you can kill them.
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So, with this Qadiran book, who would be interested in a game where you play as Taldane patriots set out to conquer it and pillage its cities?
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>>51398608
Surprise! Xhamen-Dor has a statblock now! You can kill him!inb4 book 6 has Mhar
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>>51398650
And finally a template for getting possessed by Xhamen-Dor
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>>51398586
I would! I would!
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>>51398273
>CN Cleric of Cthulu joins your party
>seems like an okay guy if a bit of a chicken, but he's definitely not all there
>ask him about it, he realizes you knew he was worshipping Cthulu all along
>he read one pamphlet and started seeking out the rites
>and also soiled himself multiple times along the way in terror
How far into this does your party get before they leave him to die/kill him themselves/find an excuse to lose him in the woods?
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>>51398629
>>51398690
>>51398493
Praise be. I'm going to have some fun with this stuff!
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>>51398722
You're welcome. I'll see you chucklefucks next month, depending on how much Shareanon works his time magic.
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>>51398213
Nyarlethotep's schtick aside from killing kings and causing general chaos is giving humanity enough rope to hang itself, Prometheus who knows fire will cause man to go to war and build weapons. Someone might seek his favor in hopes of getting inspiration or power in a similar manner.
Hastur is related to works of art and debauchery. Think urgathoa with less undeath, less selfish hedonism, but inspiring hedonism so people go into a downward spiral into 120 Days of Sodom. But likewise people might see in Hastur some of the same things they see in Cayden Cailien, but it's less frat bros, more rich folks that want to have a good time, then all of the sudden it's eyes wide shut.
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>>51397724
>The Scholar
>The Striker
>The Commander
weweee
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>>51398443
It's even better when we learn that all of that is just angsty teen god poetry.
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>>51399041
His hate for us knows no bounds!
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>>51399041
Allegedly, and then we find out Sithrak was once God himself before a man brought a Terracotta Army with him to Heaven.
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>>51399114
Got a link to that one?
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>>51398324
The Bleak Cabal believes that there is no meaning in existence. Still, they operate Sigil's orphanages, soup kitchens, and sanitariums, taking in the lost and alone of the multiverse, because when nothing matters and we're all going to die, then you might as well let some people live comfortable lies a bit longer.
>>51399142
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>>51397724
You have a .pgn render of that chick with no background? I could really use that on roll20.
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>>51397021
>Empathic Diplomat
>Wisdom for Diplomacy
Does Charisma have anything left in 1pp options by this point, short of Leadership (instructor wizards beat that) and ghost syrup?
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>>51399181
Anon please, that trait means Fighters can actually have Diplomacy now.
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>>51399181
Scion of War
Saves
Double AC
HP
Damage
Saves
Initiative
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>>51399206
>not being a combat stamina Kirin style Lore Warden and getting dank bluff too.
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>>51399181
It has the Oracle, who can get Charisma to practically anything.
Beyond that, no.
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>>51399181
You're thinking about it the wrong way. Charisma's job has been stolen by all the other stats, but Charisma has stolen every other stat's job as well. To hit and damage? Desna's Shooting Star and Smite Evil. Saves? Divine Graceand CHARMED LIFE. AC? Oracles and Scaled Fist Monk, and Ghost Syrup. HP? Agent of the Grave. Initiative? Noble Scion of War. The only thing that other stats have left is skill ranks.
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>>51399260
Yeah, people always seem to forget this when they bitch about stat swaps.
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I want tobullythe spunky mechanic character who applied to Sky Pirates.
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>>51399260
Charisma is such a slut.
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>>51399273
Most of the Cha-to-a-thing abilities require at least a two-level dip in a class, and Paladin is not a class to dip lightly.
Stealing Charisma's nice things costs half a feat for an INT or WIS character.
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>>51399280
I want toprotectthat mechanic!
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>>51399280
Am I the only one that absolutely loves the "spunky mechanic girl" archetype? Firefly got me hooked.
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>>51399260
>>51399273
The thing is you have to REALLY invest in Charisma to make it worth using at all, whereas grabbing shit AWAY FROM Charisma is as trivial as taking a trait or a feat, often to do it better than Charisma can.
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>>51397196
But... aasimars DON'T have fire resistance? What gives, Paizo?
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>>51398992
The striker is the best because it's a punch girl.
>>51399164
I wish I did, I just found it on tumblr.
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>>51399334
You won't have resistance against the fire I have for you!
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>>51399346
I was initially a bit put off by the striker's seeming similarity to the monk, but I have to say it's grown on me, particularly with it getting CON to AC, a thing I liked about the 5th Edition Barbarian that had no PF counterpart. Tension seems like a nice thing to play with, too.
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if it doesn't cost additional pool points, is spending two arcana to make a weapon enhancement last for 10 minutes/level worth it for aSphereMagus?
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>>51399416
It probably did start off a bit too similar to the monk, which is why I'm glad we've worked around that. You could even go armed with it thanks to tension and tension talents, but to me, it's always going to be that video game class.
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>>51399323
Well I want to lovingly bully her. It's the only real way to bully.
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What's the most extreme refluff you've seen?
How much refluffing is too much?
How to you consolidate enemy tactics with the refluff?
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>>51399452
That is definitely the first thing I think of reading through the class. Preview 2 gave me a major itch to make a fighting came style kick-chick with Open Hand and Striker.
Although my secret ambition is to finally have the tools to achieve my ultimate goal with a half-elf Conscript...
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>>51399323
Quite a few people seem to consider toolbelts and engine grease a turn-on.
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>>51399543
Especially when they're covered in engine grease!
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>>51398505
No.
We got our first taste of good old fashioned Numerian bullshit ala "Bitch you can't hurt me, I'm a robot"
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>>51399280
>>51399318
Can we please not do this? It's really fucking creepy.
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>>51399260
Getting Charisma to X is a lot more costly than getting Intelligence and Wisdom to X.
A lot of that doesn't even stack. Desna's Shooting Star doesn't stack with Smite Evil. Scaled Fist and oracle revelations don't stack.
That's besides the fact that Desna's Shooting Star is totally dogshit for damage.
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>>51399670
This is why I don't make female characters in /pfg/ games. Fuckers weird me out with that shit, everything has to become goddamn sexual.
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>>51399692
>implying making male characters will save you from /pfg/
Someone missed the shipping adventures thread
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>>51399724
This is why you don't make anything even vaguely attractive.
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>>51399746
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>>51399724
Shipping adventures? Men hardly get shipped as hard as women here.
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>>51399746
But that just means people will go "NTR MAN REEEEE"
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>>51399766
I ship all of DHB's characters because it makes /pfg/ mad.
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>>51399692
>>51399746I take it as a compliment when it happens to me
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>>51399776
But DHB's charters are handsome. Punch Fatty was a 1 in 100,000 beauty.
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>>51399766
One of the spicy ships of late is a Brotacular Heroic Bromance
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>>51399776
Don't make them charisma based. Also, I think that was just because DHB started joking about the NTR meme and it got out of hand.
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How fucked am I if I've never played a table top Rpg and decided to dm iron gods with 5 friends who also have no experience? Any tips?
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>>51399812
Fuck, Iron Gods is good but definitely not newbie DM friendly.
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>>51399746
Aggressively Asexual Dude?
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>>51399812
Yeah, DM RotRL instead.
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>>51399797
Cause you're a fag.
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>>51399692
This is why I don't make characters. I only ever apply to /pfg/ games using intangible concepts and ideas. I've been accepted into every game thus far but my characters don't actually exist so they can't be lewded.
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>>51393757
Iomedae is cute! CUTE!
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>>51399797
Same here, I love it when people talk about my character.
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>>51399812
Very.
Start with Rise of the Runelords, Jade Regeant, or Reign of Winter.
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>>51399805
But they don't even have hilariously disproportionate hands!
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>>51399806
The original DHB NTR character was an 8 charisma dwarf. That was the joke. He was a faceless bald man come for your anime womens.
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>>51399865
Yeah, it's fun to have your characters memed and shipped, although sometimes pfg takes it a bit too far.
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>>51394007
Early in the game a since gone player murdered a family and another player adopted the baby. He since left it with a recurring NPC, who lost it to nobody's concern.
I'm planning on bringing the baby around as a plot point or something.
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>>51399670
Oh, we're doing this. Best leave before things get too creepy anon.Your character is next.
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>>51399907
We don't have anyone to ship anymore, or relationships to develop.
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>>51399938
That's why I'm shipping anon with__anon__
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>>51399869
Oh jesus I didn't know BL mangoes could get that hideous. I thought the idea was that these guys were supposed to be fey pretty-boys for lonely girls to get off to, not batrachian mutants.
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So I have actually buckled down and am running a Steel Ball Run game. I have myself and an assistant GM.
We've ended up simply creating a few dozen builds based on songs.
The plan is he runs each of the villains of the week. We're going to dynamically determine who becomes a later villain based on which of the villains of the week survive encounters with the party.
One of the early encounters has been planned for the Man Squad
>『 R A M B L I N' M A N』
Callout/antagonize/call truce based Bard
>『 S H A R P D R E S S E D M A N』
Armor spike based character.
>『 D E A D L Y H A N D S O M E M A N』
Nymph using their special "blind permanently which how handsome I am" ability.
This has proven really fun.
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>>51399856
I want to marry a Heritor Knight!
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>>51399907good luck guessing which character's mine, friendo
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>>51399938
Didn't some guy start another group in PbP? You could run that into the ground.
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>>51399956
Since it's kind of a niche market, sometimes the bar for art is not particularly highyour favorite porn has bad anatomy too
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>>51399797
Speaking as the guy who posted the mechanic.
Same.
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>>51399964
Friendly reminder that Heritor only passingly changes you to look like Iomedae!
Now you can be a blonde busty Ulfen Iomedae, or a slender black Iomedae with a nice butt!
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>>51399964
I want to become a Heritor Knight and then marry a Heritor Knight and thenfinish inside! Praise the Light of the Sword!
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>>51394007
My hobgoblin his best friend, a kobold PC, had a falling out. So the Kobold keeps slipping my character poison and is surprised that I keep passing the save and am assuming its my wife trying to poison me. My character gets shot/poisoned/stabbed by his wife regularly because she enjoys the fact he is practically indestructible.
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>>51399984
What are the parties for the PbP groups?
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>>51399856
I'm still trying to work out if the appropriate reaction to Shelyn appearing unto the party is awe or "aww."
Leaning towards the former, if only because you get no EXP for killing the mood.
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>>51399995
Well, yes, but it's the hilarious kind of bad.[Pe-ta] is gift to porn comedy.
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>>51400026
I don't know. Just that it was a thing.
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>>51400034
I'd like her to appear unto my dick!
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>>51400026
Everyone who was left got split up into two groups, one of five, and one of six. I don't remember who made it into which though.
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>>51400026
Team B - Nico, Beriaden, Takaonna, Ossana, Shanna
Team 2 - Amandia, Essie, Omza, Shizuka, Shoarn, Kyler
Hetero shipping is difficult with only 3 male applicants.
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>>51400034
Oddly enough, It's the latter; Shelyn always tries to appear as a lovely yet non-sexual woman meant to calm anyone she meets, especially children.
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>>51400077
Homo shipping is fine too.
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>>51400077
>tfw the RotJR DM took all the prime slabs of man
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So I finally experienced the Trumpeting.
I was at the time playing an Asmodean Advocate, a representative from the Asmodean church for the World Wound affair. Honestly I had a very strange time of it. Ended up communing with Asmodeus to bring the entire situation up the chain of authority and threatened to pull out Asmodean support from the World Wound situation.
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>>51399963
>>『 S H A R P D R E S S E D M A N』
>Armor spike based character.
Fuck where did my sides go?
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>>51400144
There were almost even numbers of male and female applicants to RotJR. I think the problem is that people wait before applying with male characters, and I didn't give people much time.
>>51400131
So get started on that. I don't want topubliclyship my PCs.
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>>51399963
>『 R A M B L I N' M A N』
>『 S H A R P D R E S S E D M A N』
>『 D E A D L Y H A N D S O M E M A N』
Fucking amazing.
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>>51400126
I gotta say, I do really dig that angle for a goddess of love and beauty. It seems like an original take on it.
>>51400151
I really do feel like particularly religious PCs should be able to ask for their deity to moderate that discussion.
You can't tell me you'd get trumpeted if Erastil or Iomedae was watching.
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>>51400131
>mfw only Meme Team has Hetero Shipping
>mfw none of my ships made it into the same party
>>51400144
>prime slabs of man
Ehhh? Wasn't there only one or two "prime slab"-worthy candidates?
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>>51400187
The DM wants to ship his PCs? Oh my, give us hints on pairings you want to encourage!
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>>51400077
I'm legitimately a little disappointed NToRacle didn't get in.
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>>51400224
Casimir, Corwin, Rubio, and Etan are pretty slab-worthy.Seht is small but tender.
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>>51400224
Rubio and Etan are prime slabs of man! Who did you think were hot targets for the single women of the campaign?
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>>51399470
I want toplaya spunky mechanic who gets lovingly bullied.
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>>51400197
>If Iomedae was watching
But she is. She's the one doing it.
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>>51400232
No.
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>>51400275
I'll bully you rotten!
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>>51400287
Sorry, I meant Sarenrae.
...Shelyn would probably be a good trumpet-deterrent, too, can't bully mortals with Senpai watching.
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>>51400316
Don't be a dummy, Iomedae's senpai is Aroden. Shelyn is her onee-san, and Sarenrae is her onee-sama.
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How do I get Strength to Will saves? Can Avowed do it? I want to learn the secrets of muscle mystery.
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>>51400316
Fucking hell if Asmodeus was watching he wouldn't allow it. Iomedae and Asmodeus are in the same pantheon and she has him as an advisor occasionally.
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>>51400350
Avowed can do it in a few ways yes
Embodiment of Aether feat + Who Help Themselves Clause
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>>51400348
What's papa asmo then?
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>>51400187
It's okay RotJR2-DM, you can tell us, and we won't even tell your players!
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>>51400389
Asmodeus is the surrogate god of humanity as he's taken charge of the last empire of man. He is Iomedae's stepdad.
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>>51400348
Cayden keeps trying to get people to call him "aniki", but it doesn't stick for anybody but his own worshipers.
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>>51400350
Self-Pact Avowed gets Cha to all saves, and Embodiment of Aether lets you substitute Str for Cha for all Avowed abilities.
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>>51400266
>>51400270
>ol' 6'1" and 5'11"
Guess that's true. NGL, Aranha and Amandia were at the top of the list, mostly because I'm a sucker for cute things. Shanna had grown on me as time went on, andSylvia was best awoo.
As far as the currant party? I'd have to actually know stuff about Jade Regent, but if there's ever a fancy ball or festival I half expectEtan to end up in a dress, to compensate for the uneven gender ratio.
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>>51400404
Kurgess gets people to call him Aniki.
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>>51400363
>Iomedae shook her head, but before the trumpets could sound, a shrill whistle cut through the air.
>The Arch-Fiend, Lord of the Pit and Prince Of Darkness, stood in his black and white striped referee's shirt and hat, reprovingly waving a yellow card at The Inheritor.
>"Unnecessary Wrathness! Yellow card!"
>"Asmodeus, I'm trying to make a point here..."
>"And I'm trying to keep my cleric from turning to chaos. I'm protecting my investment!"
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>>51400389
Iomedae mostly calls him 'baka,' not sure what that's about.
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>>51400348
I want to have a conversation with Shelyn so bad, that lovely young woman asking us to save her motherly herald is so much cooler than Iomedae.
And then we find out the herald wasn't in any danger, and the quest was to save a soul from Shelyn's glaive!
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>>51400432
>The Arch-Fiend, Lord of the Pit and Prince Of Darkness
>Not Asmodeus, The First, The Archfiend, Dark Prince, God-Fiend, King of Hell, Lord of Darkness, Lord of Hell, Lord of the Pit, Master of Witches, Prince of Devils, Prince of Law, Hallowed be his Name
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>>51400481
>Asmodeus, A FUCKING LAWYER
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In the grand scheme of god's relative strength who is up near the top?
Rovagug, Asmodeus, and Pharasma are all supposed to be near the top. Who else is jostling for the top spot?
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>>51400512
Sarenrae and Calistria!
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>>51400266
>That spoiler
Nothing a guy's night out with Corwin and Casimir can't fix!Who's to say they don't take him for a night on the town in Kalsgard, ending at the Hall of Splendid Valor?
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>>51400512
Norgorber was the second Starstone ascended deity, which puts him above Iomedae and Cayden, but below where Aroden was. Torag is rather strong, Gorum is impressive but not influential, Gozreh's never been the same since the Eye of Abendego opened, Nethys is crazy strong, Irori is pretty high up there, Lamashtu's I believe the strongest demon, Sarenrae, Desna.
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>>51400512
I think those three, Sarenrae, and Desna? I'm not 100% on Golarion's pantheon.
I suppose we also need to consider various other contests than direct strength vs strength.
Pretty sure Cayden would outdrink all the other gods, for example, and like 90% sure Shelyn would win in a pillow fight between all the goddesses.
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>>51400481
You forgot "Professional Navel Gazer"
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>>51400524
Sarenrae I can see, but Calistria?
Did she participate in The Brother's War or the imprisonment of Rovagug?
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>>51400587
In a contest of pure physical might Gorum would win. But then again, no one is stupid enough to get into that fight.
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>>51400587
I bet Shelyn hosts the best sleepovers.
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>>51400609
>>51400587
>>51400524
So everyone who was part of the original battle with The Rough Beast should be near the top:
>Abadar, Apsu, Asmodeus, Calistria, Dahak, Desna, Dou-Bral, Erastil, Gozreh, Pharasma, Sarenrae, and Torag
The god dream team who managed to band together and defend Golarion from the biggest of bads.
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>>51400363
No longer canon. As of Inner Sea Gods, she disregards Asmodeus and plots to trash his favorite royal family
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>>51400639
>Dou-Bral
RIP in peace my nigga.
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>>51400639
Dou-Bral is the god that would become Zon-Kuthon.
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>>51400512
Urgathoa is a slut! A SLUT!
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>>51400650
Wait what, why?
Is that the same book where the Glorious Reclamation destroyed the Order of the Godclaw, the only LG Hell Knight order?
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>>51400638
She can host a sleepover on my dick!Everyone's cumming
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>>51400698
No, it's The Newest Official Godbook. It has to control in conflicts with lesser books.
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>>51400512
Choose the cavalcade of the oldest gods and BOOM there's your top guys,
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>>51400650
When is Qadira going to finally conquer Avistan and bring Sarenrae to the people?
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>>51400561
Hm, let's see.
Seht - Superego
Casimir - Ego
Corwin - Id
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>>51400698
Because they need to paint Asmodeus as evil despite doing literally nothing wrong. And since Iomedae is the most good paladin god, did we mention she's a paladin, so she's good, her hating him makes him evil.
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>>51400730
He did invent the concept of evil for gods when he betrayed his brother after tricking him into thinking he wanted to end the conflict.
Asmodeus isn't good, but Iomedea should target CE gods first of all (or the World Wound).
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>>51400721
Once the Nation of the Isle spreads its borders, and engulfs the Lions, Veils and Beetles.
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>>51400638
It does sound like the kind of thing she does. I imagine her faith follow her lead.
>Cora was a paladin, but she had never quite trusted anyone that called themselves an inquisitor.
>Even in her own faith, she eyed those who walked the darker path in pursuit of the church's enemies with a vague distrust. Those that chose to pursue good "by any means necessary" so often lost sight of the truly good path.
>As a result, it had not sat well with Cora when an inquisitor joined the party, and that she would have to share her inn room with the new girl. But, as she was soon to find out, this inquisitor was...not what she'd expected.
>"This going to be so much fun! I had the innkeep put aside a big pumpkin pie we can split, and then after that I thought we could braid each others' hair, and tell ghost stories, and–" the smaller girl went on and on, putting aside her glaive with a grin.
>Cora had not met a member of the Shelynite Inquisition before, but she was starting to wonder if the brooding psychopath she'd expected might have been easier to room with.
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>>51400728
>mfw "The Hangover" could happen in Kalsgard, complete with a random angry Asian, huge colored brawler and tiger
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>>51400743
But all the Chaotic Evil gods are total bitch niggas. She may as well focus on the real threats.
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>>51400768
Shelynites are cute! CUTE!
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>>51400799
Lamashtu is one of the most active gods. What's Iomedae doing about that?
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>>51399658
Are people remembering that Hardness isn't what halves energy damage, and on creatures is just 'DR that works vs Energy'?
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So my friend fucked up and made his Shaman with more Charisma than Wisdom since he wanted more uses of Channel Positive Energy from his spirit. It isn't terrible, but he'd have been better with it at 18 instead of 15. Any advice on how he can turn this around? Besides of course bumping Wisdom up at 4, using Owl's Wisdom, and nabbing a Headband of Wisdom.
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>>51400839
Murdering every futanari she can find.
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>>51400892
>full caster
>not making your casting stat your highest stat
He should kill himself. Barring that, ask the GM if he can switch the abilities. Barring that, ask the GM if he can retrain to Oracle.
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>>51400908
doing god's work, then
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Can an alchemist use an infusion extract as a thrown weapon to apply the effect against a person or object it hits?
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Hey, what level should REMOVE QADIRA be?
Game would begin with a counter offensive against Qadiran Aggression against Glorious Taldor, before running roughshod across the Satrapy.
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>>51400908
Someone needs to draw Iomedae as that "girls can't love girls!" Anime chick.
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>>51400937
Nigga I know. He just sorta got tunnel-vision with CPE and kinda forgot he's a WIS caster. But he's trying to be a healer anyhow so I suppose I see the logic behind it, albeit it's skewed.
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>>51400965
No, extracts only take effect if ingested. Touch Injection or a syringe spear is what you want to look at.
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>>51400937
>tfw Cleric with 16 STR and 14 WIS at level 1
I just wanted to be strong, Anon
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>>51401015
Nothing you can do desu. Keep in mind that Owl's Wisdom doesn't stack with a Headband of Inspired Wisdom.
>>51401054
Then take the Strength Domain!Rage Domain would probably be better.
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>>51400978
No no, here's how you do it.
Qadira declares war on Osirion and invades, the party are either Osironi freedom fighters or Taldan "advisors" sent in to fight a proxy war against Qadira.
Qadira finds out about the Taldan involvement after the party helps liberate Osirion and declares war on Taldor, and it is up to the party to help the Empire!
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>>51401087
>Keep in mind that Owl's Wisdom doesn't stack with a Headband of Inspired Wisdom.
Oh I'm aware. I just listed it as a common way to boost wisdom and not necessarily stating to combine them.
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>>51401087
But Anon, my character's deity didn't offer the Strength OR Rage domains
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>>51401101
But anooooon, I just want to sack Qadira, I don't give a shit about Osirion...
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Wait a second. If you're a barbarian with a +4 Courageous weapon and you Rage, do you increase your Strength by an extra +2?
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>>51401129
Then pick a better deity or play a Seperatist!
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>>51400561
I'llend in YOUR Hall of Splendid Valor!
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>>51401179
N-not before marriage!
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>>51401174
>implying there's a better deity than Trumpet Tramp and the Trumpettes
Nice try, diabolist!
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>>51401225
There is! His name is Ragathiel and he's the best at Purging and Smiting!
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>>51401304
>Ragathiel
This nigga knows wassup.
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>>51401336
>shitty unrelated image
P A G E
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>>51401352
>autistic screeching about it being one page off from the only page accepted by autists
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>>51401390
>bitching about bitching about the page
>ignoring the bitching about the unrelated image
nice
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>>51401443
It's a shit image but whatever. I'm not autistic enough to care.
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>>51400756
>Absalom (Isle) conquers Taldor (Lion), Qadira (Veil), and Osirion (Beetle)
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