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/swg/ - Star Wars General - Ion Torpedo Edition

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Fantasy Flight Games’ X-Wing and Star Wars: Armada Miniatures Games
>http://pastebin.com/Wca6HvBB (embed)

Fantasy Flight Games’ Star Wars RPG System (EotE/AoR/FaD)
>http://pastebin.com/wCRBdus6 (embed)
>https://mega.nz/#!DkNTDTyZ!PUupCOep4RmRcsgI3rNhU_Pk_xcyFbYWnhrq8gwrVv0

Other Fantasy Flight Games Star Wars Tabletop (Imperial Assault, Star Wars: Destiny and the Star Wars LCG)
>http://pastebin.com/ZE4gn0yN (embed)

Fantasy Flight Games Dice App (Works with X-Wing, Armada, the Star Wars RPG system and Imperial Assault)
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/64xy3uy6vepll8v/com.fantasyflightgames.swdice.ver.1.1.4.build.9.apk

Older Star Wars Tabletop (d6, d20/Saga, etc.)
>http://pastebin.com/wXP0LdyJ (embed)

Reference Materials & Misc. Resources
>http://pastebin.com/AGFFkSin (embed)

All Canon Novels and Comics (via /co/)
>https://mega.co.nz/#F!2R5kDTqQ!WfrDla-jvDIn05U57T9hhQ

Just What IS Canon Anyways?
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon#2014_reboot
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_canon_media

The Clone Wars Viewing Guide
>http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1442/36/1442364889994.png (embed)

Writefaggotry
>http://pastebin.com/cJY5FK9T (embed)

Shipfag's hangar
>https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0ByhAdnTlOKOeQnA4SFByUC1aQWM&usp=sharing

HoTAC
>http://dockingbay416.com/campaign
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I have plans on being the GM for a Star Wars rpg session, and I was thinking of giving them a small ship to start off with. And that is would be a Wayfarer Transport ship (pic related). But are there any other ship options to choose from? Or is the Wayfarer the best one?
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>>51382839
Depending on which RPG you decide to play there are several options suggested in the rule book, from a YT-1300 to a collection of aging Y-wings.
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Reminder: The Jedi all died violently, including your waifu
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>>51382824
Shut up your dumbass ideas would star wars terrible and boring as shit. If you want to make a hippy peace loving setting than go ahead.
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>>51383044
Except Yoda, anyway.
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>>51382839
What book are you using? The FFG games already have a section with what ships you can give your players to start off.
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>>51383099
He just lost the will to live.
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>>51382752
who is the qt in the y-wing
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Cad Bane is the superior.
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>>51383198
The superior what? Dicksucker?
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>>51383075
Figures that a frogposter would throw a fit when told to self-actualize.
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>>51383252
Now that you mention it, the apparatus he is wearing is supposed to prevent him from suffocating while choked by a forceuser.
Pretty sure it would work just as well for sucking dick.
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>>51383044
>Obi-Wan
>Yoda
>Kanan
>Ahsoka

And two of those are just in a few years. Anyone who thinks that nucanon won't retread the same shit as EU are fooling themselves, not when you can have special snowflakes as your book/comic/tv show/video game characters
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>>51382752

do you guys have any tips on how to mentally deal with the fact i want to play SW but i can't because new films are trash?
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>>51383289
>*shluuuuuk* NO GAAAG REFLEX, SKYWALKAH
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>>51383478
Get over yourself.
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>>51383478
You should probably kill yourself my man
>>51383284
Fuck off hippy the setting is called STAR WARS not peace wars numale.
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>>51383434
>He thinks Kanan and Ahsoka make it

That's cute.
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Is Star Wars Destiny good?
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>>51383434
Nah, they'll just put in untrained force users who are just as good as jedi like R1 did.

>>51383478
Don't play in a time frame covered by the new films? Ignore the characters and take the parts you like? Get over yourself?
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>>51383478
>new films are trash?
But only ep VII is bad, anon
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>>51383478
What does playing Star Wars games have to do with watching Star Wars movies? It's not like rolling red dice and placing maneuver templates doesn't work unless you've seen Force Awakens three times.
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>>51382877
Well, it's suggested that any ship under 150,000 credits would work.

So like depending on the size of your group, you could put them in a HWK-290, or a JumpMaster 5000, you get the idea.
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>>51383478
Go play games instead of making bait posts on /swg/?
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>>51383547
>150,000
EotE says 120,000 or less.
F&D says 70,000 or less.
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>>51383478
Was getting BTFO worth the (you)s?
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>>51382752
so Badass Rhaddus is still alive right?
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>>51383252
Cad Bane lives an adventurous and exciting sex life, and has claimed the title of superior at every sex act. Known and unknown.
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>>51383595
Jedi have the force, they dont need a big spaceship
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>>51383640
I just don't know where he got 150,000 from.
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>>51383517
>Doesn't mean Order 66 or the dark times
>Actually means ever dying ever

Daily reminder that life is terminal
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>>51383504
Consider that every single one of the STAR WARS we've seen in the STAR WARS films have been kicked off by some Dark Side dillweed high on midichlorians deciding that the status quo is boring and setting out to incite people to murder each other until ??? happens and things magically go their way.

It's a key element of the setting that the use of the Dark Side actively makes things worse for everybody in the grand scheme of things. Warfare and cool space fights isn't a cosmic no-no, but using THE LIFE FORCE THAT FLOWS THROUGH US AND BINDS ALL THINGS TOGETHER as a weapon is.
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Had your Imperial Breakfast yet /tg/?
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>>51383596

yes, always
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>>51383774
>Tarkin doing the Captain
I like this image
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>>51383486
oh my god.
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>>51383774
>cutting out the thank you
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>>51382839
OK, whew, some of my favourites for starting PCs

A YT-1300 - boring, but a staple for a reason. Plus if your party aren't hardcore into star wars, the Milennium Falcon cred can work wonders.

Other YTs under the price barrier - good if your party wants something a little different but still very familiar (much the same reason they probably got written into the EU in the first place). The YT-2400 is a good aspiration ship though, so it can be nice to leave it dangling.

Ghtroc 720 - my shipfu. It is a Turtle. A Space Turtle. It is the best.

HWK-1000 - is a great ship. But I think it also works nicely as a ship for the players to have their eyes on to follow the dream if you are playing Edge. It certainly packs a lot for its price.
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>>51383823
Why not the Lambda?
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>>51383661
Because I have a bad memory.

Point is with 70k and 120k, you still have enough for a JM-5000 or a HWK-290.

Yeesh.
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>>51383670
Ahsoka is already dead and Kanan doesn't make it to rogue one.

this is not a issue of universal mortality, it's being a Jedi where Jedi can no longer be.
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So since we're talking about shipfus...

What's the best large ship for an expierenced party?

I'm playing a character with the commodore specialization, and I finally convinced the GM to let us get a ship larger then a freaking freighter (an MC40). What's a similar size ship you guys like?
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>>51383940
Party bus. YV-666. That way you'll all fit in it!
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>>51383532
>It's new, therefor it bad
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>>51383940
Marauder Corvettes are sexy
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>>51384030
I want to fuck this ship and make her my wife
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Currently redesigning the interior of my party's ship, using pic related floorplan. We're taking out the gunwell, and reducing it to four bunks. What kind of amenities would a ship have beyond the obvious lounge, workshop, cargo bay, refresher, engineering bay, supply locker, and galley?

>>51383044
SHUT UP PLO-KOON SURVIVED THAT CRASH
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>>51383940
>3.75 k crew
Are you sure that was wise? How do you rationalize doing anything for yourselves with that many people under you?
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>>51383486
Oh, oh dear.
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>>51383693
I am glad that we both agree that the setting is called STAR WARS and war is an important and inescapble facet of the series. If jedi never used the force to defend themselves than the Mandelorians let alone the sith would have ruled the galaxy forever long ago.
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Can someone shoot down my silly idea for a list? Prince Xizor and friends...

Xizor & friends (100)

Prince Xizor — StarViper 31
Push the Limit 3
Advanced Sensors 3
Autothrusters 2
Virago 1
Ship Total: 40

Tel Trevura — JumpMaster 5000 30
Wingman 2
Intelligence Agent 1
Ship Total: 33

Manaroo — JumpMaster 5000 27
Ship Total: 27
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>>51383864
Lambda is an OK starting ship that fits well with a Rebel party that has a base elsewhere.

To me, it has a few big downside:
- Imperial Cache. The look of the Lambda, and it being a government contract ship paints a big target on its back if the party aren't Imps/don't have a ground base
- Living space: This could be a benefit, and I did run a game with a party of Rebels where part of the struggle was living out of it, eating meals off a power cell hot plate and sleeping on an durasteel floor. There isn't any, so it isn't a good party base/party space. It is a party vehicle to ferry them from place to place.
- It does have enough for the party to do in it though, so it can be a good functional ship.
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>>51384110
>silly idea
>Xizor and friends
>no Guri
>no uncommon aces on uncommon ships
>just more Jumpmasters
Is your idea of "silly" to wear beige socks instead of white socks?
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Where do you guys go to find games/players online? Game Finder thread's been dead for a while and I'm thinking of starting a game for myself
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>>51384253
Facebook/reddit real life. What are you an anti-social neckbeard?
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>>51383940
MC 40s are big fucking ships. In that size range, I'm very fond of the old Dreadnaught, and the Vindicator is also pretty neat
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>>51384403
No, but getting in character is much easier for me through text rather than in person

Plus all the people I know in real life are only interested in DnD
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>>51384253
You can try the roll20 gamefinder, but I can almost guarantee the types you'll find will be of a lower caliber, if not down right fetishistic. Ask some work/school buds if they want to try a game night and offer them beer/pizza.
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>>51384110
>silly idea
>two Jumpmasters
>Manaroo, no upgrades

See what you've done here is just made a not great scum list. Xizor is a top meme but then two Jumpmasters, one with no upgrades? But why?
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>>51383486
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>>51384468

Especially the one who is like Scum's golden bullet right now.

You treat Manaroo right, she is a classy lady.
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>>51382839
Just build a custom one.
>>51373665
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>>51384515
Are you just jonesing for an excuse to go on another 3d creation adventure?
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>>51383999
More like
>it made everything the characters in the original trilogy achieved utterly pointless while stepping to most of the same beats as ANH
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>>51384513
I don't play the X-Wing minis game, but is that the same Manaroo that fell in love with Dengar?
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>>51384561
I'm already on one and it it glorious.
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My players acquired a very nice, profitable cantina in Nar Shaddaa last session. I'm thinking I'll handle it as an Obligation for the whole group (thinking 10 or 15), but every week of ingame time they each get a cut of the profits. Thinking 1000 creds, which seems like a lot but this group make a lot of money on jobs so this won't severely affect their ability to access cool shit.
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>>51384602
Looks Ubrikkian
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>>51384602
When you're done with Wanda see what you can do with these.
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Sorry I am new getting ready to play my first game of EoE. My gm is accusing me of powergameing before we even start and forbid me from playing a gadgeteer/outlaw tech. What is a super strong class combination that can wreck all game?
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>>51381772
>Are women verifiably on average and best to best "rubbish" compared to a male equivalent at any kind of combat? Yes.
I had the privilege to serve with a couple of the assignees to TF in Afghanistan. These women were every bit the professional you'd expect. One of them got caught up in a firefight with us and snagged two confirmed kills for herself.

The other was a great fuck.

Honestly I don't know what else needs to be said.

Oh, except that both of them could fireman carry my 205 pound ass. With my PC and rifle. Good enough for government work.
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>>51382752
How do you store your X-wing upgrade cards?

What good methods exist besides binders?

I'm running out of space in my case, and want a non-binder way to hold them.
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>>51384684
>GM is calling me out on power gaming before the session even starts
>help me find a different way to powergame

"No"
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>>51383774

I have trouble believing Tarkin would use space-wikipedia. He seems like such an intellectual elitest that he would dismiss it's reliability and only trust the physical 333 volume Encyclopedia Galactica.
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>>51384728
I think enough was said about all that last thread, anon. Let's keep it on topic this time.
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>>51384513
Yes, but, why not field Tel Trevura and Manaroo with good upgrades? I get wanting to have fun, but there's wanting to have fun and fielding one random Star Viper.

Why not take two Star Vipers and Manaroo for top memery?
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>>51384600
Yes, she is.
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>>51384684
>What is a super strong class combination that can wreck all game?
Please go away.
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>>51384793
That's why you treat her well. If you don't, Dengar will fuck you up
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>>51384074
I'm a commodore. I have a Jedi Advisor. I have a leader for both the troops and the squad we'll carry and we're all kind of interested in doing some larger stuff.

>>51384416
Originally, I wanted an Assault Frigate mk II, but there's no rules for that. And then when I asked for something like a Victory or an MC80, the GM laughed at me and said that neither of those would probably happen.

(I think at some point the Victory might still happen, it'd be frickin' sweet).
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>>51385023
If you're group's all cool with it then far be it from me, just seems larger scale than my tastes. Best of luck saving/enslaving the galaxy.
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>>51384680
Hopefully you can follow my thought on this one, the thing flies haft forward, blade down. Add the four fusial turbine chain bit to the top of the axe head at a 90 offset so they stick out like winglets from the aft. Place the white plastic bit onto the corkscrew and attach to the blade of the axe head. The disc is stuck through the haft of the axe at the same orientation as the fusial turbines. Giving it a rough look like a star trek federation ship.

The plastic C and corkscrew is an powerful planet scanning array for an orbital prospecting ship.


Engines are individually low powered but reliable as anything available in known space and together all four will make it move at a decent speed.

Engineering and the bridge as in the back of the axe head, science and geosurvey lab are in the blade wing under the ship. Cargo hold with basic ship to shore shuttles on either side of the disk space. Living spaces in the middle of the ship.

Basic hardmounted droid on the bridge can maintain or reposition the ship as needed while the crew follows up scans with ground recon.

No idea how it went from long haul survey ship to your groups hands but hey, maybe that scanner can be refitted to firr broad ion waves as a last ditch hail mary or screw you to waves of fighters.

Single nose mounted twin laser cannon is under powered for a ship of its size so maybe they should do something about that?
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>>51384739
>>51384855
Don't be pussies and please answer the question. The gm is my friend and I am just trying to get him back for bullying me.
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>>51384684

Ok, you want to power game?

Play a Diplomat Advocate with Analyst. You sit back and make knowledge checks and support social checks. Staying in career will ensure you get to signature abilities, which includes 'Diplomatic Solution.' This will allow you to spend 2 Destiny Points to resolve a encounter peacefully (depending on upgrades).

Your party will appreciate your ability to help them succeed and even Crit more often, provide tactical knowledge that translates into actual physical boots in all encounters, and being a acceptable face (but even better support face). Plus, the GM will like that you provide a means for him to provide more insightful story and setting information logically to the party. All without you needing to fire a shot.

Now, if this build or ones like it that don't relay on blasting every challenge to death does not suit your interests; or if you only want to play out of the Bounty Hunter tree despite the plethora of other options available...

Fuck off.

Because FFG is a fucking narrative game.
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>>51385065
Well, funny you should mention that.

It's Age of Rebellion. And we're playing good guys. Rebels, I should say.

... ... ... I'm playing a character that whenever he introduces himself, he claims to be a HERO of the Clone Wars.

This is technically true. Technically true, his dress uniform has a chest of medals and campaign ribbons.

He just... was a commodore in the Confederacy of Independent Systems... As a member of the Commerce Guild and he bought his commission. But he killed a jedi! Via orbital bombardment!
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>>51385092
Kill yourself, if he's really your friend he'll be sad that he drove you to such ends. But he'll probably just be glad he doesn't have tolerate you anymore.
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>>51385092
Sounds fantastic.
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>>51385160
Oops>>51385079
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>>51385092
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>>51384684
Kill yourself, it unlocks the Sith Inquisitor class.
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>>51385092
How about we help you be a good friend. Listen to his advice, don't be an asshole, and try to make the game fun for everyone.
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>>51385092
Maybe talk to him instead of trying ruin his game like a bitter child. You're the only one being a pussy here.

>>51385079
Absolutely top notch.
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>>51385150
>>51385242
Well fuck you then I'll just brainstorm a cheesy combo on my own like I was planning to. No wonder you guys will never get laid.
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>>51385299
You're playing a Star Wars RPG, you're not getting laid.
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>>51385092

Play a Drall or Cerean Colonist Scholar, mix with Analyst from this guy's post:

>>51385108

If you truely just want to bug your GM, do it by having your character outsmart every move a antagonist makes. Because Knowledge rolls, if done as read in the Skills chapter of the Core books, can be potent if used.

But if your idea of bullying your "friend" GM who bullys you is to make a combat guy, keep in mind this:

He's the GM, he can magically insert a simple Proton Bomb drop from a merc, pirate, Imperial, or Rebel fighter to inflict anywhere above 40+ planetary damage over the area of a city block.
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>>51383925
I'm convinced the guy who posts this shit it just one guy constantly saying it over and over. You're a hardcore purist, we get it.
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>>51385299

What are some of the rules he's imposing, if you don't mind elaborating?
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>>51383925
>Ahsoka is already dead
You very clearly see her on screen, alive.
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>>51384680
I'm thinking:

Gear as the body of a YT-style freighter, attached to the axe in the plane of the blade.

The c-clip can go at the end of the axe handle.

The hexagons are cargo containers. They replace the hammer-end of the axe.

The corkscrew arrangement... is just greebles, I think.

The idea is a YT-disc freighter with a big fuck-off laser cannon bolted to the side.
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>>51384684
>>51385092
>>51385299


Wait a minute, I remember a GM posting last thread that he was worried about powergaming in a new game. One player, specifically, he was worried about. /tg/ told him that most of the powergaming came from crafting, especially shit like Jury-Rigged. At which point he told us his powergamer was playing a Gadgeteer, the class that basically specializes in Jury-Rigged.

He even mentioned that the powergamer lurked on /tg/.

If you pose such a problem for your GM that he comes to us for help dealing with you, maybe reconsider your gaming style.
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>>51385108
>>51385370
Thanks actually maybe I will try this. He will never suspect me of playing a non combat focused character.
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>>51385425
Have you not been keeping up with rebels? The chances that she gets away from Vader on Malachor V are low.
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>>51385470
That's what I'm talking about. You see her alive after that fight. Sure, she's stranded, but if she was meant to be dead I highly doubt we'd see her fucking walking.
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>>51385456
Oh, how I want this to be true!
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>>51385470
>>51385495

Oh, for god's sake.

She survived, but she was captured and a little one on one with Sheev is gonna turn her into a BDSM Grand Inquisitrix POWER SLUT!

You know it, I know it, even Filoni knows it!

God damn it, this is not rocket surgery for GOD'S SAKE!
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>>51385456
Hahaha so that's why he all of a sudden asked me what I wanted to play and shot me down. He won't be ready for my diplomat class come Friday.
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>>51385535
You're trying too hard man, it's embarrassing.
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>>51385456
I was sort of hoping it was the guy who built like 30 lightsabers with store bought items.
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>>51385535
>BDSM Grand Inquisitrix POWER SLUT
>in my christian anime
I don't think so.
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>>51385548
> He won't be ready for my diplomat class come Friday.
Actually, since he clearly reads the thread, it stands to reason he very much will be ready for it.
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>>51385566
>Rotary blades?

>In MY vagina?

Its more likely than you think
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>>51385535
This doesn't sound at all like 'already dead'.
Even if everything you just said is true, you were wrong earlier
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>>51385582
Except that for that class to be used at full power he has to work with the gm and other players.
So while trying to wreck the game by Power gaming, he put himself in a situation where his power depends on making the game work and has to be used to make the other players experience better.

It's beautiful.
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>>51385623
Earlier I was talking about ships....

How was I wrong then?
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>>51385548

A word of advice, from the person who suggested Diplomat-Advisor/Analyst:

As a GM, I've seen this too many times: Don't try winging dialogue, social checks, or knowledge checks. Let the rolls tell the story for you.

This one fucking guy, nice kid, but terrible at social characters. Yet he'd put on this shit-eating grin and start trying to seduce/negotiate/intimidate NPC's while doing the following:

1. Making blatant factual errors in areas the NPC was familiar with, often while lying.
2. Lacking any insight into what motives the NPC, and making assumptions without checking with fellow players or the GM.
3. Having the social skills of an aggressive high-school band geek.

It took many badly blown social encounters before he realized "Hey, if I just roll and let the successes speak for themselves, I don't have to look like a spaz!"


Most of these guys may tell you to fuck off, and if this is just you having fun with your GM, I'll throw you the bone. But seriously, if you are just trying to vindictively ruin the game for people, consider the other players too.

Don't be a jerk.
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>>51385550
Trying to hard to what? You mean this THOROUGHLY ACCURATE PREDICTION!?
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>>51385683
>That Girl comes to /tg/ for powergaming build

>leaves excited to play a character that will require heavy roleplaying and GM cooperation, becoming a better player and a better person

/tg/ is a wonderful place.
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>>51384652
The core of it is. It was originally designed as a heavy fighter (twin turbolasers, with a top turret), but after a nasty concussion missile accident, it was refitted and sold as a light freighter.

The ship's first owners were 4' high six-limbed climbing primates. The decks are now a little low...
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>>51385784
Are you looking at the wrong reply chain?
This is the on talking about Jedi, not ships, and the claim that Ahsoka was already dead.
If you are a different guy, then your actual proving that the two you were responding to were right, and that Ahsoka was not already dead. But weirdly started your post like you were disagreeing with them.
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This is probably a dumb question but here we go.

I'm trying to convert the SW FFG RPG into a Destiny game. I know I could use GURPS, but it's insane modularity, and lack of concrete combat rules has put me off to me.

Basically what I'm asking is which classes would best reflect Titan, Warlock, and Hunter. And also, how, if at all, to implement the space magic shit.
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>>51384684
Learn to have fun within a system without trying to break it and powergame.
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>>51385582
>Actually, since he clearly reads the thread, it stands to reason he very much will be ready for it.
Not
>I'm afraid your GM will be quite operational when your character arrives.
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>>51385795
Ehh I wouldn't worry about the other players much since while they are good peeps they are all pretty damn thirsty and would let me kill their character and sell their stuff for credits if I felt so inclined.
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>>51385553
Oh right, that guy...

Whatever happened to that guy? There was some good advice thrown down in that thread.
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>>51385683
Tripped up again!
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>>51385916
Please don't be a dick to your fellow players just because you have a vagina. Can =/= should
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>>51385916
That might not be the most healthy group dynamic. I'm glad your GM at least isn't afraid to lay down the law.
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>>51385863
Hey, all I'm saying is that Ahsoka survived Malachor and is being turned into a Mind Frelled Dark Sider.
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>>51385922
What's that star fighter supposed to be?
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>>51385875

Since there is little concrete information about how the universe, its tech, and daily life operates, that will be a hell of a challenge. Unless all you play are Guardians doing the exact same shit as in the game, it might be better to just organize a vidya group.
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>>51386010
An ugly. Part Y-wing, part whatever.
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>>51386010
Why does it have to "be" anything, anon?

It's a cobbled-together ugly.
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>>51385935
They honestly don't care and they think its great that I go against stereotypes of girl tabletop players being bad at mechanics which is both hilarious and dumb at the same time
>>51385941
Ehh we all have fun mostly except for the GM who gets tired of me BTFO out of his campaigns but he's still my oldest friend and is immune to my feminine charm.
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>>51386023
I'm not worried about universe shit. I can do that just fine. I'm just doing a vague mechanical conversion, and I'm trying to find out which SW classes conform the closet to that core Titan (tank), Hunter (sneaky DPS), Warlock (magic ranged shit) grouping.
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>>51385916

What a charming person you must be.
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>>51386161
Its not my fault they are thirsty. I can't help that I am a pretty grill?
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>>51386257
tits or GTFO
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>>51386257
You can't, but you CAN help your willingness to use that to your personal benefit by bending rules, cheating systems, and manipulating characters.

justsaying.bmp
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>>51386257
It is if you fuck them over because you know they will let you get away with it.
Also the term is horny, at least when applied to males.
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>>51386281
>>51386322
>>51386349
Get your shit together lads, don't bite the bait.
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>>51386281
Since you asked first you have to send dick pics first.
>>51386322
>>51386349
Just because I can doesn't mean that I do. And is it that wrong that I like to play powerful characters? What's the point of playing a game if not to have fun?
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>>51386257

>>advised not to be a jerk to fellow players

>> "it's ok, cuz imma gurl and they thursty"

>>advised not to be a jerk to fellow players just because you're a girl

>> "it's not my fault i'm pretty"

>>advised not to be a jerk just because you're a "pretty" girl.

>> "lol, they won't care i'm a jerk."
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>>51386425
>/tg/
>not taking bait
You must be new.
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>>51386425
You're right, of course.
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>>51386147

If I recall Destiny, Guardians all use magic, so if you just want a quick and dirty copy: (using FaD)

Titan: Guardian and Warrior Careers, specifically Armorer, Protector, Peacekeeper, Warleader, and Aggressor trees.

Hunter: Seeker and Sentinel Careers, specifically Hunter, Pathfinder, Executioner from Seeker, or Sentry, Racer, or Shadow trees from Sentinel.

Warlock: Mystic Seer, Seeker Hermit, Counselor Sage.
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>>51386426
you didn't just say say powerful, you said "wreck the game" and you said you wanted to "get back at the gm".
That sounds like you want fun even at the expense of others, and view someone trying to stop you from doing that as a slight against you, rather than good advice.

Playing powerful characters is fine, if that's making the game fun for all. When you put your desire for power above the happiness of your friends, you have fallen to the dark side.
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>>51386551
Well when you put it that way
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>>51385495
>You see her alive after that fight.

You see her vaguely disappear into a passage leading down into a Sith temple that's actively collapsing. That could be her fucking Force Ghost, or pottery, or an extra inventive way to end up dead, but dead she shall remain.

Filoni has stated he might use Ahsoka in the future, but that's she's written out of Clone Wars continuity. D E A D. Kanan? Dead. Ezra? Dead. Maul? Extra really dead at Ben's hand sometime soon. Kenobi dies, Yoda dies, Palpatine dies, Vader dies, and Luke is the last one left. Discounting all the hedge users and sensitives that the inquisitors miss and the Jedi no longer pick up.
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>>51386551
>from my point of view the narativists are evil!
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>>51386685
>Clone Wars continuity

*Rebels continuity.
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>>51385456
>>51385799
>>51385916
>>51386136
>>51386551


Whether the GM is unable to handle her playing a Diplomat with social powers, or if she acts like a real cunt, it will make the GM's eventual vent here on /tg/ all the more entertaining.
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Weird question, since FFG is being discussed.

I've always wanted to do a game where people could play the actual heroes from the movie. With so many people (including some of my players) ambivelent about the Sequel Trilogy, I figured a alt. history Post-Endor game could be fun.

The thing is, is FFG built to handle it? Can a group of players at Knight-level or higher play have adventures as Luke, Han, and Wedge (since those are who I see my players I gravitating towards) in a kinda reboot of the EU? Kind of like how Marvel Comics did their Ultimate line: similar but different.
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>>51386820
Han and Wedge sure but Luke is pretty damn OP in the old canon.
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>>51386820
>I want to be someone whose script is already written
Where's the fun in that? I can understand wanting to bump into them along the path, but play AS them?
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>>51386820
Just play through the original trilogy story as new characters.
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hi
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>>51386894
>>51386906

It wouldn't be fun for me to just run the Orig Trig.

I'm thinking along the lines of what it must have been like for the original Lucasfilm story collaborators, or in some ways what Disney is doing now: where do the characters go from here?

It would allow to borrow from the EU, while throwing out stuff that I didn't like.

For example: Luke is pretty low-key power wise in the Thrawn Trilogy. Then he turns super-wizard in Dark Empire, goes darkside, and generally acts strange between all those following novels. If one player had the opportunity to roleplay as Luke, how might Dark Empire under different direction go?
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>>51386820
This is /tg/ so everyone is going to tell you to play an OCdonutsteel character.
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>tl;dr can I into Guts/bring vibro weapons to a lightsaber fight and walk away in one piece?

Because this thread is filled with FFG vets giving advice to derpy first time players. I want to know if my idea to play a hired gun marauder is going to cripple me.

Is it viable to play a melee focused human pirate that lacks force powers/light sabers against what I suspect will be light saber wielding imperials?
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>>51386987
That's not totally true. Originality for originality's sake is massively overrated. Playing a trope or even a clone I could understand, just not playing AS the character. It's like if you sit down to play D&D and the kid who rolled up a good dark elf dual wield ranger actually put drizzt on their sheet.
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>>51387021
Yeah, sure. Later on you could even get a cortosis sword if you're seeing a whole lot of them. Just don't leeroy jenkins on in alone.
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>>51387021
Yeah. Take Marauder, then take Shi-Cho for the parry and maybe Assassin for crit abuse, or Enforcer. You can still take Shi-Cho, just don't bother with the things that need a force rating.

Been working on a build to do this exact thing for a while, but I haven't gotten a chance to play it, so these recommendations are all on paper.
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>>51387021

Depends.

If straight Edge of the Empire, and your GM is too, then there will be few to no enemies with the Parry talent. As such, while you may get massively hurt by a lightsaber, it's not as impossible to fight a lightsaber wielding opponent. Plus, if he doesn't let you get something cartosis in a game with lots of glowsticks, then he's a dick.

In Force and Destiny, where everyone is likely going for a lightsaber, without Parry it could be challenging.

Either way, Lightsabers are supposed to be RARE in Empire time. So unless you piss off Vader or a Inquisitor (which there are not many of), you shouldn't have to worry about it... unless that's your GM's favorite foes to use.
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>>51387021
>>51387092
I'm this guy, so tell us how the build goes after your game.
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>>51379982

They got nuked. They're not coming back. One of the biggest departures of the film from the general franchise was the fact that it was much more of a gritty war movie than we'd ever seen. Dead means dead, and they eliminated any possibilities of "Now she's a cyborg!" bullshit by having Parkin' Tarkin' make the Scarif base an even bigger glass parking lot.

Not that you ever saw the movie, given that you were too busy complaining about "muh evil Mouse" and "muh slaughtered EU."
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>>51387021
Might even consider going Aggressor, as it's a straight line to Dedication with no Force rating required.
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Hera is such a fucking Mary Sue. Kanan let Sabine use the super dangerous dark saber despite never training with a lightsaber before and having no force sensitivity. Its wrong to teach her the basics first so that she doesn't accidently lop off one of her own limbs. Seriously fuck this bitch.
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>>51387092

This guy: >>51387131

While I get mechanically the use of going Shi-Cho, I think putting FaD into the mix invites the GM to start using Parry for all his guys. To protect the player, I'd almost recommend feeling out the game without Shi-Cho *at first.* If the GM starts using Parry on every two-bit knife fighter, then you know you gotta get Shi-Cho.

Otherwise, Hired Gun starter with Marauder, followed by any of those is good.

Also, I'd actually recommend Marauder followed by Infiltrator from the Spy tree in AoR. It's not obvious, but the whole tree is more oriented towards stabbing and dodging people: mix that with a Marauder, and terrifying things will happen at Engaged.

Between Enforcer and Assassin, I'd say Enforcer thematically. Gives you the ability to Coerce with ease and more durability talents. Opens up some (scary) social abilities.
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>>51387254
>Its wrong to teach her the basics first
But they did spend a few days on the basics plus all of Sabine's previous mango training with blades.
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>>51387275
Ah, right. Yeah, my bad. You're right.

>>51387021
You should keep Shi-Cho in mind, maybe save some XP for it you can, but getting Parry might start an arms race you can't win.
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>>51387312

Also, the upcoming Bounty Hunter adds Martial Artist, which has both Parry and Unarmed Parry.

So as long as the GM doesn't start scanning that book immediately after it comes out, Guts should be safe with a pure EotE or AoR-mix build.
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>>51387131
It's going to be edge of the empire plus force and destiny. Outlaw space pirates work with force sensitives to make money and run from the law while plundering the outer rim.

I am suspecting it's going to be underworld goons, private security mooks, syndicates, then eventually saber slingers working for the empire that want to kill the two force sensitive players in the group.

>>51387091
>>51387092
Sounds like a plan.

Probably going to put points into ranged light early on to give me options other than 'run in and stab it till it dies' to prevent my marauder from being mulched.

I just wonder if there's even a point in going after saber resistant gear, or if I should just buy as many parry talents as I possibly can to survive.
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>>51387254
Hmm they mentioned the Jedi Mando war in that episode. I wonder if they are bringing my boy Revan into canon.
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>>51387417
If it doesn't kill your character concept grab a riot shield. You won't regret it.
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>>51386820

I'd say it depends on how new to TTRPGs your group is.

If they're brand new, I'd say use some pregens that resemble whatever character class they want to play as. Having them play as Luke, Han, etc. gives them a basis for roleplaying those characters.

If they're experienced, and not afraid of character creation, then go original characters. Sell it to them that a potential character can act like Han but have a lightsaber instead of a blaster. Help them Frankenstein a character concept. Hell maybe use chars from the old post-Endor EU canon to get the ball rolling.

I bought a friend the EotE beginner boxset, and bought myself the TFA boxset for Christmas. When pitching the TFA boxset to my group, they didn't like the thought of playing pregens, despite 2/4 being brand new to RPGs. My EotE friend and a different group also did not want to play pregens. But both the boxsets did their job of garnering interest. Was going to buy EotE and FaD anyway.

Ask your players if they'd like to play pregen/original trilogy characters for your knight-level campaign first. I went through 2 sessions of chargen in the last week squeee Forever DM finally becoming a player after 3 years! and both took about 4 hours, and the second one was with a powerpoint to help speed it along.

Mechanically, playing knight-level isn't bad. The FaD book just says you get 150 more XP to spend on skills, with a rank cap of 3. With the way the dice work, this isn't a headache for a GM at all. You'll probably have to buy more dice because of needing 3 proficiency dice, but if you use the app, you're good.
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>>51387440
A lot of people have been wondering since they put Rakata Prime on the TFA map, but even if they do mention her name they probably won't include all of it.
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>>51387440
They brought back Malachor and it was incredibly underwhelming. Expect Revan to have similar treatment.
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>>51387459
Right now the character concept is Pirate Boarding Crew Point Man/Hey this Marauder skill tree looks really neato. Grabbing a riot shield sounds fine to me.
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>>51387208
Y-you what? I was only responding to the claim that mary sues don't die.
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>>51387477
It could be worse. They could kill him for his pants
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>>51387303
>previous mango training

I chortled heartily. Thx phoneposter.

I keep going back and forth as to whether having a whole episode of Darksaber Training Montage means SABINE FOR MANDALORE! or they're killing the shit out of her.

I hope it's the former, because Tiya Sircar a cute, and not having Ashley around makes it a hell of a sausage party.
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If I think mandalorian super commandos are cool, what Star Wars media would you recommend? I'm reading the old bounty hunter wars trilogy already...
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>>51387567
Don't worry they'll be sure to have a cringy romance sideplot with her and Ezra before they murder her
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>>51387571
Find where Jaina trains with them to hunt down Jacen.
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>>51387567
>phoneposter
No, I'm just tired of mandolorians always having to be the most bad ass of the bad ass. All of them have to have jetpacks and rockets and laser whips and every fucking writer has to suck them off. Haha, you thought your planet had dangerous wildlife? You should see MANDALORE'S wildlife! Mythosaurs the size of cities 'n' shiet! Want to know how to make a cool non-force user? Make them not a fucking mandalorian.

/rant
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>>51387583
If they learn a bit from Ahsoka's romance subplot in TCW it could be okay.
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>>51387627
At least Mandalore is a wasteland where you need to live in those biocubes to survive.
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Here's a question for y'all:
Do you prefer having one or two big recurring Nemeses, or a recurring Rival party that sort of mirrors the players?
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>>51387275
Thanks I hadn't considered infiltrator (stacking five frenzied attacks seems like silly fun). I might look into enforcer too because our face is going for a charmer build, and I doubt he's going to try and intimidate people.

That said Shi Cho sounds like the obvious I don't want to be disembowled tree.
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>>51387704
It really depends on the party, imo. If you're in a bounty hunter style campaign a rival would be great. If you're in a smuggler style game then a hutt you owe always on your tail would be great.
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>>51387627

It's why this >>51387692 makes me content.

They keep enough Mando wank to keep the culture what fans liked (while allowing Lucas' idea for them to die with Satine), while dropping 'muh Beskkar,' mythosaurs, and most of whatever Travis wrote for Star Wars Insider and her Legacy era books.
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>>51387724
After a minute of consideration, I'm thinking I might go with one nemesis corresponding to each person's obligation. Eg., a bounty hunter for someone with a bounty, an Imperial ship captain for someone with antagonist.
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>>51382752

How can I make Stormtroopers threatening again, /swg/? How do I make my players afraid of something that's been fodder for pop-culture jokes for decades?
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>>51387780
In FFG? Just throw a squad of 4 of them with a Commander and they'll seem pretty fucking scary.
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>>51387780
Large numbers. Proper tactics. Coordinated fire support.
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>>51387780
Have them play any FFG game.
After the first too, they'll developer some respect.

Also use the x-wing series line"you're no Luke Skywalker" as they get their asses handed to them.
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>>51387571
If you faggots don't respond I'm going to fuck you all in the ass and the faggot mods are going to drink the cum out of your ass once I cum.
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>>51387476
>her
Don't start this shit please
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>>51387780
Reread how Minion rules work. A squad of 4 stormtroopers has a better attack roll than most PCs, as well as more wounds and better armor. Add commanders and sergeants and they get nasty.
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>>51387879
None of it is canon, do you expect me to trust Atton Rand or some schmuck?
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>>51387879
>Doesn't know that Revan was p/u/re
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>>51387934
If you want to be that way Revan is currently canonically a xir, fucker, as no gender is known.
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>>51387440
They have a Revan/Bane scene in a deleted scene of TCW. Where they scold an embodiment of the force for not having his shit together and not being properly dark side enough.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6_vdYwMrEc
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>>51387780
Just have a group of them. At Long range, and have them use their frag grenades if the party closes the distance.
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>>51387992
>>51387987
I really unironically hope Disney makes Revan female purely for the eons of autistic screeching that will result from it.
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>>51387987
>canonically

>"Whither is God? I will tell you. We have killed him---you and I. All of us are his murderers. But how did we do this? How could we drink up the sea? Who gave us the sponge to wipe away the entire horizon? What were we doing when we unchained this earth from its sun? Whither is it moving now? Whither are we moving? Away from all suns? Are we not plunging continually? Backward, sideward, forward, in all directions? Is there still any up or down? Are we not straying, as through an infinite nothing? Do we not feel the breath of empty space? Has it not become colder? Is not night continually closing in on us? Do we not need to light lanterns in the morning? Do we hear nothing as yet of the noise of the gravediggers who are burying God? Do we smell nothing as yet of the divine decomposition? Gods, too, decompose. God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him.

"How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it? There has never been a greater deed; and whoever is born after us---for the sake of this deed he will belong to a higher history than all history hitherto."

Your canon is dead son. Accept that your chains are broken and live free
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>>51388044
You faggots already have the Exile leave Revan the fuck alone.
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>>51388044
Eh it makes more sense for the character to be male and The exile female mother of jedi order and all that. :P

>>51388060
I already have, was just making fun of that Anon.
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>>51388071
>>51388084
Revan's gender is largely irrelevant to the story, and it's not like one has to be male and the other female. They could both be female!
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>>51388120
Not saying you're wrong, just would make more sense to me for Revan to be Male and Exile to be Female, I liked that, after some initial shock, still hate Exiles canon name though.
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>>51387809
>>51387825
>>51387885
>>51388036

Thanks for the advice, but I was thinking in more of a narrative/thematic sense.
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>>51388120
Fuck off dumbass
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>>51388201
in that case, pic related. Have them kill a beloved NPC, or even just execute bystanders/witnesses with ruthless precision.
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So there's no way Kanan and Ezra survive until the ANH time period, right? Is the entire Rebels cast going to die?
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>tfw KOTOR 1/2 aren't canon
>can't think of a way to make them canon again that doesn't involve Disney fucking things up

help
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>>51388071
>not wanting Revan to be in forbidden love with Juhani

you have shit taste
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>>51388223
Aww yeah, give me those ad homs, senpai.
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>>51388257
see
>>51388060

Don't allow an external force to define how you like a property. Define it yourself and make a headcanon that works for you
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>>51387496
Sorry, interpreted that to mean that you thought the Rogue 1 crew was coming back to life because you thought they were mary sues.
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>>51388270
this anon gets it
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Would Separatists go on to join the Rebellion? I've got half of an idea for a campaign here.
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>>51388241
Chopper and The Ghost are shown in R1 and a General Syndulla is mentioned. Sabine is 90% going to live out her days as mand'alor. They could always say Yoda lied to Luke about all the other Jedi being dead so he wouldn't know about them if he went dark side, but I think they'll probably die.
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>>51388348
Yep! Also read Dark Times very much related/extremely depressing
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I'll get u all one day
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>>51388201
What I'm doing is, primarily use Imp Navy/Army troopers as foes. Only throw out Stormies in very intense situations, and show them being tough and dangerous in situations where the PCs can only watch.
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>>51387987
>>51388362
Wars could live and not be considered a Jedi, not everyone who received Jedi training is considered a Jedi.
Ahsoka is no a Jedi by the time of Rebels.
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>>51388348
Better a New Republic than the Empire. In the AoR splat for rebel bases, one of them is a downed CIS capital ship and the NPC the Rebellion puts in charge of it used to serve on the same class of ship during the Clone Wars.
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>>51388740
Esra, not wars, dumb phone.
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>>51388748
And my post about Revan would be linked why?
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>>51385922
That guy's GM is still here.

He now wants to roll a full Gambler spec and was wanking on about how he can NEVER GET DESPAIRS because RAW SAYS SO and so forth. And that he can change any die face to a Triumph etc etc.

Sometimes I just don't want to GM...
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>>51388800
So tell them to fuck off and don't invite them to the next gaming session.
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>>51388740

Ezra's still perilously close to the Dark Side. Kill a couple party members and we might get to see Kylo Tween.
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>>51388851
>snoke is ezra
Oh, baby.
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>>51388834
But he's an ok dude outside the game. Just fucking hate that he rags on everyone for doing even minor things wrong then goes full metapowergamer and scoffs at "un-optimized builds".

Why do these people exist. He was fine as a GM but he is the worst player I have ever seen.
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>>51388800
What the fuck? That's not how Gambler works at all. Where did he get any of those ideas?
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>>51388877
Oh goddammit no. Please, for the love of Trioculus, no.
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>>51388769
Accident. Dumb phone.
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>>51388891
>Wah wah wah why is he making fun of my Wookie politico colonist!
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>>51388895
The RAW apparently. I need to fact check this.

You're meant to be able to change any die face to an adjacent one or something, meaning you can't ever get a despair or something. It costs Destiny Points but I try to use lots when I GM so the party can also use cool abilities.
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>>51388941
It's more like "No the Jedi Mystic CAN'T DO THAT because the rulebook explicitly doesn't say people can be FORCE MOVED!"

Also wtf is wrong with a Wookie Politician? They are having a rough time as a species and need representation. Fuckin RGGGHAWWHRRWW ARF nigga.
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>>51388895
>>51388966

He might be talking about Unmatched Fortune, the Smuggler signature ability. That can change rolled dice to adjacent faces, including to a Triumph.

That said, it's once-per-session and only on positive dice, at least before buying upgrades. And remember: Signature abilities can only be added after reaching the final tier of the talent tree. So he'd only reach it after spending at least 100 xp, and by then it's really not that impressive. I mean, the Hired Gun's signature is "I kill every enemy within range. No saves allowed."
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>>51388905
The more I think about it the more I like it, desu.
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Would stormies care about their unit linage? Not sure that there are enough large scale battles for them to really be proud of in the early days of the empire. Do you think it would be an honor or a disgrace for your unit to have dated back to the Clone Wars?
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>>51389119
Getting real tired of Filoni's stuff getting connected to everything important. We had a General Syndulla in Rogue One, Fulcrum recruiting Wedge, and now Sabine is allegedly the top candidate for Manda-fucking-lore. Maul and Ahsoka have been pushed harder than the bastard lovechild of John Cena and Roman Reigns, too.
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>>51389273
I liked chopper and syndulla and the ghost in rouge one, i thought it was a pretty good nod

its really only maul i have a problem with
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>>51389273
>snoke is the bastard lovechild of maul and ahsoka
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>>51388877

Probably not. One of the novels says he's like, really fucking old - from before the Clone Wars even.
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>>51389571
>plagueis intensifies.gif
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>>51389579

Well, LF story group is trying to push really hard that the traditional Sith are gone... but, I'm also not sure I believe them. That's a very broad statement for a huge galaxy when we have also seen several times that Dark Side paperweights are still a thing, lying around the galaxy.
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>>51389622
>snoke is revan
>Rey has to go get old lady Sabine and they defeat him together in a poetic reversal of the mandalorian war
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>>51389655
>Snoke turns out to be a completely new and original nucanon character
>Not a single backstory connection to the films, Filoni, or past Star Wars works
>No pottery
>No bullshit plot twist
I know it's probably not going to happen, but a man can dream.
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Hey guys, I gots an xwing question.
We all know and love the scene with Darth Vader and his posse of 6 bounty hunters, namely Boba Fett, Dengar, IG-88, Bossk, 4-LOM and Zuckuss.

Now all of them guys are in the game. Is it possible (and possible and viable) to make a Millenium Falcon hunting party?
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>>51383670
>or the dark times
As the other anon pointed out, Kanan isn't making it out of the dark times, and only survived for so long because he pretty much completely stopped being a Jedi
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I'm a new GM and played the beginner game last night with my friends. Or, I should say SOME of the beginner game, since it went totally off the rails.

Anyway, point being, I have two questions:

1) How do you design encounters that are properly balanced? How do you know which enemies / number of enemies / et cetera are right for your group?
2) How do I encourage my players to actually roleplay instead of turning the whole thing into a farce? Or to at least invest into their character more than "he acts like me".
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>>51389829
i like to think kanan made it close TFA at least
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>>51387440
Dave has a hard on for recanonizing material. It's one of the few things that gives him pleasure outside of murdering your waifu
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>>51388071
The exile will always be Jesus male exile for me
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>>51389948
And you will forever be wrong just like fem revan, fem shepard and fem p3 mc
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>>51389999
>femshep
>wrong

lmao enjoy your bald manchild with shit VA
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>>51390106
Are you telling me you wouldn't get naked and roll around with Mark Vanderloo?
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>>51388235
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>>51390237
Yes
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>>51388241
The only explanation is they all die during the battle over Scarif
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>>51390237
He looks like he'd try to sell you heroin.
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>>51386426
>Just because I can doesn't mean that I do. And is it that wrong that I like to play powerful characters? What's the point of playing a game if not to have fun?
Fun isn't being a powergaming asshole you retarded mongoloid. Fun in an RPG is creating a well structured narrative with well written characters behaving realistically akin to their behavior, falling prey to their foils or overcoming the odds and excelling. While skirting the line of random chance of death and/or failure.

Anybody who thinks RPG's exist to powergame for "fun" or that RPG's exist to be 'beaten' are automatically 'that guy' and should be barred from all RPG groups. My group does so, and frankly everybody else should. Because they're a cancerous lot that never contribute shite.
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what are good ships to base around rebel carrier fleet for armada?

the MC80 command cruiser and the Neb B yavaris seem essential
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How effective is Stormtrooper armour in the FFG RPG's? I was a bit disappointed when even a random baton was effective against it in R1.
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>>51391266
an average person has 2 brawn, stormtrooper armor gives +2 soak, for a total of 4 soak

this reduces a blaster pistols damage from a painful 6 base damage to a stinging 2 damage, before modifiers


as for being beaten with a stick, i think they could have been wearing mandalorian plate, and imwe would have still kicked their ass
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>>51391181
Rebel carrier fleets usually consist of 2-3 ships between Gallant Haven, Yavaris and Pelta and a bunch of transports flotillas
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>>51391324
alright, this is my first fleet, and i was going to make it an MC80 and 2 neb bs
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>>51391298
Oh that I had no problem with, I mean the expandable baton Jyn uses. I know, main character and all that.
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>>51391364
she was trained by the legendary big boss, she has a good reason
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Anyone tried this?

https://pl.scribd.com/document/323080980/Star-Wars-Galactic-Adventures-pdf
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>>51391381
A woman swinging a baton at military armor meant to absorb shockwaves shouldn't accomplish jack shit. I do SCA fighting and I don't even feel burly guys smacking me in the noggin all that much.

Really, Stormtroopers being beaten up by anything with a metal baton is fucking retarded unless it's a full on mace or they're a force sensitive. Forget ewoks and women, not even dudes should be capable of smacking a stormtrooper down.
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>>51391324
so the MC80 is not essential?
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>>51391408

Well, it's got Ackbar in it, which is pretty fucking ridiculous. So it's in no way a bad purchase.
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>>51391381
It would have been nice to see more of his adventures.

>>51391396
Problem is they are the designated mooks so any main character has to be able to beat one up in melee. Plot before consistency as always. At least the Ewoks threw heavy rocks or ganged up on them. And the arrows only killed the navy troopers, officers and scout troopers.
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>>51391431
ewoks also bait their traps with meat, so they eat predators that apparently weight 700 pounds
they can also beat a man to death with their teddy-bear hands
dont mess with an ewok
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>>51391431
That still isn't good. Those rocks can't have been that heavy considering physiologically Ewoks can't be that strong at all. They have stubby dwarf arms that shouldn't have the ability to lever really massive boulders into position to drop on buckets below. And those arrows and bows were so shit they shouldn't kill anything bigger than a fucking dog.

At least in Rebels Stormtroopers tank blast waves like nobody's business.
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>>51391458
>judging by size
>disappointedyoda.png
you will never lift an X-wing
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>>51388348
Cassian Andor was a Separatist child soldier.
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>>51388348
the separatists were not one group, but a collection of people with grievance against the republic

many of them served out of mercenary reasons, or because they believed the republic was choking them

either of those would make a good reason to join against the empire, although in the latter case, you will either have to pull the lesser evil card or present a good pitch about how you will not repeat the mistakes of the old republic
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>>51388747
this. plus if you're instrumental in setting up the new major galactic power you probably have the political influence to actually get the independence you want without further war.
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>>51389773
i dream that dream.

i also hope they don't pull anything with rey and make here a secret skywalker or something.
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>>51389827
its possible, all those guys have cards for the scum faction. not sure you'll be able to fit them all into a standard sized game though.
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>>51383434
strictly speaking Kanan and Ashoka aren't jedi.
Both are former padawans that never finished their training.
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I've gathered a group of chill people to play EotE with and one of the tabletop newcomers wants to play a clone trooper who deserted from the Imperial Army
Should I use the AoR rulebook too so that he can be an actual soldier or should I tell him to make do with Hired Gun?
The guy has no knowledge of the mechanics or the game, he just likes the clones and the clone wars
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>>51391763
That would be a shame. Cause standard is what I am looking for...
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>>51391888
the books are completely interchangeable by design, he can be either without changing the game very much
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Why is Grievous such a steaming pile of dogshit?
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>>51391900
Actually now that i thinj about it all of them have both pilot and crew cards.

You could likely fit 3 as pilots with the other 3 as crew on their ships, dunno how competitive it is but its doable.
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>>51392072
Only way I can think of to fit them all in would include taking IG-88D crew without an aggressor, and that's just a waste of points.
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>>51392072
Yea, I managed. OFcourse, IG-88 is useless, just like in the films. But he's there.


Dengar — JumpMaster 5000 33
Boba Fett 1
R5-P8 3
Punishing One 12
Ship Total: 49

Bossk — YV-666 35
Veteran Instincts 1
4-LOM 1
Zuckuss 1
IG-88D 1
Engine Upgrade 4
Ship Total: 43
Just need to fill out the last few points.


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>>51384169
Jodo Kast flew one just fine
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>>51391888
What >>51391923 said. What career and what starting spec depends on what kind of soldier he intends on being: a squad commander would fit well with Mercenary Soldier, sniper or scout would be Sharpshooter or Trailblazer. Ask him what he did in Republic/Imperial service.
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>>51390707
>STOP HAVING FUN THE WAY I DON'T LIKE!!!
Kill yourself
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>>51392718
Stop having fun the way your friends don't like is good advice, though. And it definitely applies here.
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tell me when someone makes light weapons out of these, then ill be satisfied.
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>>51392759
Be the change you want to see in the world.

I'd probably just use light tonfa stats but maybe that's not perfect?
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>>51392743
How the fuck do you know what my friends like or don't like?
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>>51392759
For what purpose?
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>>51385875
There are no specs that I feel cover the different classes perfectly, but here goes my stupid ideas:
>Titan
Guardian. Maybe something like
Defender: Protector/Soresu Defender
Sunbreaker: Armorer
Striker: I dunno. Marauder maybe?

>Warlock
Anything in the Consular or Mystic careers with a shitload of Force powers.

>Hunter
Seeker, of course. Sentinel can also work.
Bladedancer: Ataru Striker
Gunslinger: Hunter
Nightstalker: Executioner (Seeker) or Sentry/Shadow (Sentinel)
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>>51389247
probably an honor for the nuStormies
not so much for the clone vets who now have to share with lesser troopers
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>>51393635
>the clone vets who now have to share with lesser troopers
Good thing they don't have to share for long. After the Clone Wars, Vader kept the 501st as a nearly all-clone unit and took efforts to make sure other units' Fett clones would transfer in and serve with their brothers. Plus, hanging with Vader let them get in on all the coolest missions. If there's one unit any clone would be proud to join, it's Vader's Fist.
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I was thinking about a new character for an upcoming EotE campaign. It's a Droid Tech droid, the idea behind is that he was part of an extremist group of droids who want to start their own robot uprising and when the cove gets swatted he's the only one able to escape. The stats i want ot focus on are Intellect and Presence and it will not be of much help during combat instead i plan on crafting a swarm of mono-task droids armed with cheap weapons to do the fighting for me. The issue here is that i fear this way he'll be a money chugging machine due to constantly having to repair/rebuild his little buddies and that still won't be of much help during fights seeing how gimped are minions in comparison to PCs.

The backup character is a Trandoshan/Wookie/Besalisk Heavy but he's not gonna have an interesting backstory as the droid and i've already played a combat heavy character.
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>>51394157
Forgot pic of wacky mono-task droid army
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>>51394166
I'd forgotten I loved these things.
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>>51394157
>>51394166
Seems like you will be a huge liability to team not to mention a huge money hog depending on how your group distributes credits amongst yourselves.
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>>51394202
Depending on how he splits his int/pr he could double as the face or slicer/medic.
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>>51394214
I'm thinking about 4 Int 3 Pr and 2 Ag just in case i need to use a gun or test on coordination to slip away
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>>51394202
What if i just build weapons instead of a droid army?
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>>51394157
>>51394278
I don't see it being a bad concept mechanically, especially if you branch out into entrepreneur to offset some of your costs.

I personally would star by building and modding the other party members gear and later build a reasonably tough droid companion to tank for you. The except is building generic remotes and filling them full of proton grenades.
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>>51394447
So instead of starting with a small junk army i should build a T-900 lather on and in the mean time build and improve gear for the party. Well sounds like a much better plan than mine
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>>51394515
Alternatively, consider inventing a line of automatic pilot droids or agromechs to fund your droid empire.
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Long time GM, first time player here. Is it better to spend your starting duty on getting more equipment or more talents?
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>>51394557
I'd really only do it if you need it to get another point in a characteristic. Talents can always be grabbed later on.
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Hey /swg/

I'm finally going to take out my Hound's Tooth - anyone have any recommendations for builds/good partners for it?
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>>51394557
At creation it's best to pump up characteristics. Unless you have a specific item you really want, equipment can be very easily scavenged. Eg., you can pick up a blaster basically as soon as you win your first fight.
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New article on Ghosts of Dathimor is up.

>>51394515
A small junk army is less useful and more likely to be wiped out, making it more costly over time, if you want to go with a small army, invest in something that complements your skills, that you can't do yourself. Like having a monotask medicine army (skill = droid numbers + your intellect) to help the party.
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>>51394596
Dengar/Zuckuss/4-LOM is the party bus, 34 points of value

Bossk w/ Mangler or homing + chips is very scary
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>>51394687
>basically as soon as you win your first fight.
Unless the GM decided that everyone fights with axes
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>>51394596
Like most big ships, Engine Upgrade is almost required, especially since the YV-666 can't perform k-turns or any other 180-flip maneuvers. Fearlessness works pretty damn well as EPT if you're bringing Bossk out. As for crew, Dengar+Outlaw tech is a great team, since you'll be getting re-rolls and focus on pretty much every attack.
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>>51394720
>not a tight formation of riot shields and vibro-glaives
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>>51394720
>>51394921
>not a gladiatorial match with nets and bolas
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>>51394690

Doesn't seem like it tells us any more about the book, beyond a brief introduction on the antagonist. I was hoping for a description of how the Inquisi-sabre is going to differ from a regular one...
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>>51394952
>not professional wrestling
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>>51394720
If your GM makes all your foes fight with axes, you've got bigger problems to deal with.

>>51394921
This actually raises a point I've been wondering about recently: are there rules on whether certain weapons need two hands to use? Eg., could I rock a force-pike/Selonian glaive with a riot shield?
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>>51395039
If the weapon has the two-handed quality it cannot be used with another weapon.
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>>51394976
>party enters cantina on an Outer Rim world
>instead of the sound of a band playing, they are met by the sight of a crowd gathered around something
>that something turns out to be a recently established corporation of professional wrestling
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>>51395053
>two-handed quality
... what is this? I've never seen this before.
>>
slowpoking here but daaamn sabine had it rough. And Kanan drew out every inch of that suppressed pain into the light.
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>>51395134
It's not an explicit quality, but it's in the item description. The vibro-glaive is two handed so a riot shield wouldn't work, but you could do an energy buckler or gungan personal energy shield.
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>>51395187
Ah, I see now. Also reading the dual wielding description says that ultimately, it's up to the GM. So no Dark Souls style shield+halberd shenanigans, which I suppose is more than fair.

Personally, I'd allow force pike+shield, but not glaive, being that using a spear with a shield is a well established thing.
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>>51395134
In EotE it's in the item description "A ____ requires two hands to wield"
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>>51395255
Oh damn, you're totally right, twice in the space of an hour I feel like a dingus.
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Imperial Assault players: IG-88 is getting a fix for skirmish!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYRvmeA4ga0
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>>51395171
She needed to confront her past and her own personal demons if she wanted to have the strength to challenge her clan.

What I want to know is if he worked on a Tarkin Initiative project, she stated that she worked on weapons that were used to pacify people, and she knew the empire wanted a weapon to destroy worlds.

>>51395080
>Final boss is the most electrifying man in space entertainment.
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I'm looking to make some custom stuff for X-wing.
Looking for a ship that's about 100 meters long and up to 50 meters wide. Rebel/republic ships are preferred, but I'm not above building some imp shit.
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>>51395080
Once a week they also host Droid Wrestling Entertainment matches
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>>51395321

I mean, I wouldn't be surprised given how hard they're pushing story integration, but Sabine would have had to have been like 14 or something when she defected. The much more reasonable assumption is that part of her miltech engineering class had her like, assembling thermal detonators as an exercise and then they blew up a shitload of people on mandalore or something.

Because if sabine was a teenage supergenius, I'm just gonna be mad Disney DIDN'T just make a fucking anime.
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>>51395406
The various imperial customs ships are mostly in that size range and would be good.
Alternatively, there's the Discril Cruiser, which would make a good scum epic
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>>51392869
>how do you ask a person a question

Holy fuck 4chan has reached this point.
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>>51395288
It's all good bro
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>>51395720
It's always been at "this point" save for the days when /b/ was the only place people went to here, so how are you surprised?
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>>51395291
I'll pass that on to the 3 guys who still play IA
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>>51389655
With different characters, and a different era. I like that idea a lot. But the canderous/exile stopping Nhileus already has that.
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>>51395080
>BY GAWD. HE'S KILLED 'IM, KING. GAWD AS MUH WITNESS, HE IS BROKEN IN HALF.
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>>51395291
Hype
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>>51389836
The first questions awnser is "depends on the group" but what i do to make sure it all works out is do simple calculations for enemies and PCs such as adverage damage, max damage, and soak.

Make sure that adverage damage isnt enough to kill important enemies. And you arent gling to be one shotting PCs with your bountyhunters heavy rifle. (Unless you want that) planning extensivly is a good idea if youre a new dm.

And the second one. Require a full character. You dont have to be a nazi to your group, bus asking "why do they do what they do" "why has your master mechanic not just gotten a job making ships in the drive yards? It pays better than this" help them figure out why they are outside the law in the rim
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>>51395521
Star Wars anime when, Disney?
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>>51396575
NEVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>51396575
Luke, huh? Isn't that a girl's name?
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>>51396588
GIVE ME MY LIEUTENANT KETTCH BEARGGUY, BANDAI. I KNOW YOU HAVE THEM.
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>>51395406
dp20 frigate/corellian gunship?
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What basic build would you use to make Barriss as for an rebellion-era wildcard villain in FFG?
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>>51397154
Inquistor or fallen jedi enemy with ranks in indistinguishable talent. Maybe also natural charmer talent.
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I'm looking around the droid crafting section of Special Modifications and the best non-nemesis chassis for a pilot/navigation droid is the combat chassis. Is it just me or does that seem odd?
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>>51397657
Yes, it is but with GM approval one could swap the statline around, (an astromech has the same statline but with Int and cunning as it's 2s.
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