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>Setting has an empire >It's a Not!Roman Empire

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>Setting has an empire
>It's a Not!Roman Empire
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>Setting has an Empire
>It's based on the greatest historical Empire of all time

You get 5 guesses what it is. Hint: it's not Rome.
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>>51375657

The British Empire, of course. God save the Queen!
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>The vizier was evil all along!
>These people are based on >insert culture or religion here< and they act like a shallow and bad parody of >insert culture or religion here< because fuck actually reading!
>humans have a different culture in every land, other races separate culture by subrace.
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>>51375686
was going to say this.
pretty much the best thing to happen to earth.
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>>51375686
>British Empire

Wrong.
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>>51375657
The Proto-Finnic Holy Roman Khanate
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>>51375745
I thought Finland is the Fourth Rome
Are you telling me they were Rome-0 as well?
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>>51375686
>>51375740
This reminds me of a WoD game I wanted to play, British Vampires setting up a Camarilla 'outpost' within the British Raj circa 1860. The theme of the game would be conquering the local supernaturals and reaping the supernatural resources of India - and becoming the Prince of a 'new' city.
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>>51375710
>>humans have a different culture in every land, other races separate culture by subrace.

Assuming you separate the subraces geographically (hill dwarves vs mountain dwarves, forest elves vs. city-dwelling high elves vs. underground dark elves) that all flows together.

May lead to someone eventually asking if black people are a human subrace.
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>not making your fantasy empire Prussian
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>>51376160
>May lead to someone eventually asking if black people are a human subrace.
They're already subhuman, so why wouldn't they be a human subrace?
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>>51376306
Technically they're the most purebred humans.
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>>51375629
Fuck you Rome is cool.
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>>51376306
Well memed
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>>51376271
>didn't even last a millennium

Take your tall guard fetish and stupid helmets and get out
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>>51376160
>May lead to someone eventually asking if black people are a human subrace.

I played in a campaign with as a Catfolk, with a Gnome, Fire Elf, and a Human. The Human was black, and with the example of the Fire Elf, my character insisted that the Human was some sort of subspecies, too, and proposed the term "Mudman" while guessing at possible racial advantages he might possess.
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>>51376628
How about you make me, nerd.
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>>51376628
T. """"""""""""""""""""""""""Holy """""""""""""""""""""""""" """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""Roman """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>51375629
The Roman Empire, and even more so the Republic (which people always lump together), was a fascinating period of history with a myriad of interesting themes to explore.

Anyone who interprets it merely as decadence and gladiators should be thrown into a crocodile put, and the same goes for idiots who just assume that interpretation is correct.

And Nero is basically the patron saint of 4chan.
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>>51375629
What if it's a fantasy version of the Roman Empire that made it to the industrial era whose religion has been influenced by a literal death cult so as to worship death in all aspects of life?
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>>51376681

>muh Voltaire
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>>51376815
Then you have WH40k.
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>>51376160
Well really, if every different variant of nonhuman race is their own variant subrace why wouldn't humans be split up into the likes of whites and black and asian?

Elder Scrolls does it, though it was pretty hilarious in a game where they gave the Redguard bonuses to physical stats but penalties to the likes of 'personality' and 'intelligence'.
And the other humans basically comprised of ARYAN, ROMAN and HALF-ELF
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>>51376271
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztOV2wrrkY
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>>51377027
Who needs personality, when you can sword-nuke a mountain by singing?
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>>51376815
This is barely relevant to your post but I'm sticking it here anyway
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>>51375657
America!
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>>51376797
Rome during the decline is also vastly underrated.

My current setting is basically Not!Rome during the Gothic war just after Adrianople.
Having players with no knowledge of history helps too since we all are currently having a lot of fun.
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>>51376271
Fuck off Otto. Take your weird bird fetish with you.
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>>51377027
Don't want to be the ACTUALLY guy but...

"Imperial" is actually a broad term that covers 3 ethnic subgroups, Nibenese, Colovians, and Heartlanders. Heartlanders are the only ones that are really Not!Roman.
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>>51377027
...except the "Aryans" take a bigger hit to Intelligence than the Redguards.
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>>51375657
The motherfuckin Persian empire.
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>>51375629
>setting has an "evil" empire
>it's not!Aztec
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>>51377202
And it all used to be jungle terrain, until the retcons to make the setting more generic and bland, thus easier to portray
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>>51375657
Macedonia?
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>>51377241
Aztecs were pretty evil

Hey, what about a Nazi-Aztec Empire instead?
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>>51377265
>Dark-skinned Nazis
You've gone too far
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>>51376666

Witnessed.
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>>51375686
I'm glad this thread finished so quickly.
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>>51377265
>Tbe sacrifice the racial unpure to their gods to please them--two birds, one stone

My god, it's perfect
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>>51377241
to be fair, they were pretty evil
Hell, the whole reason why they fell was because all the tribes they had subjugated and enslaved decided it would be better to risk things with the Spaniards than to live under Aztec rule anymore
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>>51377299
>sacrificing the impure to your gods

Literal sacrilege. Everywhere, gods took only the best. That's why it's a sacrifice. The divine don't want your trash.
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>>51377283
Why did they make gurkhas giants in that propaganda animation? I still don't understand it.

Sure they are terrifying buggers, but they are midgets, it makes no sense to show them as bigger than both the fascist trooper and the British soldiers.
If it was for propoganda shouldn't they have been portrayed as pointy-toothed little imps that served as diabolical servants to the burly aristocratic Brits?
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>>51375657
North Sea Empire!
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>>51377347
Yo Knut, how goes it with the Jomsvikings killing eachother?
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>>51375629
>Not running in hinterlands based on the early medieval Balkans sandwiched between immortal Inka mummy-emps, a temporarily unified Mesopotamian hegemony, and a vaguely east-Asian mercantile company from beyond the sea
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>>51377299
>sacrifice the racial unpure
>not cleanse the impure through holy fire
You don't do this whole "evil cult" thing too well. Sacrifices must already be clean. Purification is what you do to the unclean.
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>>51375629

please don't disrespect the HRE like that
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>>51377445
Absolutely fucking savage.
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>>51377372

well, they're all dead
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>>51375657
the galactic empire
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>>51377241
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>>51377487
Get outta here.
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>>51377343
Because the Argies were absolutely terrified of them, and it hardly does their military any credit to remind people they were scared shitless of the Turbo Manlet brigade, even if they were Manlets who learned.
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>>51377636
God Argies are pathetic.

Its good that people finally started to recognize how Just the UK protecting their people against a bunch of incompetent fascists once, instead of whining about warmongering.
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>>51377530
Space Germans are just as bad as regular Germans
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>>51377758
...we were kangs, and sheid?
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>>51377758
that's a parody right? no one is actually that stupid.
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>>51377821
That one is a parody, but the real thing is frighteningly close.
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>>51377278
>What is Zimbabwe
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>>51377821
the real thing will date 2045 and have the ethnicities the other way around
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>>51377900
...how close?
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>>51377317
But the Aztecs only sacrificed literally slaves/captured/foreigners.
Aztecs and Nazism is a perfect fantasy marriage.
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>>51377027
>penalties to the likes of 'personality' and 'intelligence"
They were the only race that managed tu nuke their own homeland by swinging swords to much.
Penalty to intelligence is justified other races done stupid shit but not on that scale, except dwemer but they did it by having to much INT and magicking themselves out of existence
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>>51375657

Qin/Han Dynasty?
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>>51377821
>Kang
>Sheid
>PHarao WeWuz

I hope nobody would actually think that to be real.
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So about them shitty fantasy Roman empires
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>>51377317
Blood gods does not care from where blood flows, he just wants that blood flow.
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>>51377965
They sacrificed warriors captured in flower wars, who had ritually purified themselves and had value; well-bred animals like eagles and dogs, who (like the animal sacrifices of the Old Testament) had to meet a certain level of quality; sinners who self-sacrificed to become purified and avoid bringing evil to the community; children, often pure maids as with the annual Hueytozoztli sacrifice; and two noble women at Tepeihuitl.

They would sometimes sacrifice slaves as well, but they weren't the focal point, and in any case they still represent sacrifice as a loss of wealth and value (even more than other nations valued slaves, given how few beasts of burden they had). It is not at all comparable to say, "We were going to just gas all the kikes, but instead we'll substitute them as a holy offering to the gods."
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>>51377939
Afrocenterists claim that because the Nubian dynasty existed, ALL the pharaohs of Ancient Egypt were black. Contrawise, racists use Afrocenterists to deny that the Nubian dynasty existed at all and mock anyone who tries to discuss it.

Nordcenterists, while rarer, are equally as retarded.

>t. /his/torian
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>>51377302
>thinking Imperialistic Europeans are better subjugators than anyone else
Those poor saps.
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>>51378663
Nobody denies the existence of the Nubian dynasty. That's a weird sort of reverse backlash. People deny that the claim of these racists is real, which it isn't.

>>51378876
Divide and conquer works. Those guys were just unlucky that they couldn't handle European diseases.
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>>51377992
>tfw to intelligent to exist
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>>51378876
Well, at least they weren't being sacrificed to Jaguar Gods anymore, now they were just forced to work sugar cane plantations.

Also, it was noted and recorded by many people, including his own crew, that Cortez was abnormally violent and insane, and was originally planning to use the Encomienda to go full Outer Heaven and declare the New World as his own nation.

Luckily the priest that they brought with them actually had a moral compass, and wrote a letter back to Spain saying "This guy is a genocidal fuckhead with delusions of granduer, please stop him."
Sadly, the Crown cared less about natives and more about Cortez taking their shit, so they sent troops to settle and oust Cortez, but didn't do anything to help the natives much.

So yeah, the Native Mexicans were just woefully unlucky that it was Cortez of all people who took the Aztec's place. Seriously, that guy was a huge dick
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>>51378988
European diseases are the true White Power
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>>51377152
Patrician taste.
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>>51378988
>>51379123
To be fair, they were also supposedly in a Post-Post-societal collapse situation, so their population wasn't great to begin with, making the disease response terrible.
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>>51379069

>Big Boss Cortez
>Central American Outer Heaven
>A weapon to surpass even Obsidian Jaguar

I'd play it. I mean fuck, Aztec royal names were basically ready-made for quirky boss squads.
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>>51379069
Well, at the same time the Spanish were also murdering and torturing fellow Europeans up North because they believed in the wrong flavour of Christianity. And in the process they got their shit wrecked so hard that they haven't been relevant since.
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>>51379221
Didn't the North American natives get completely decimated by the passive introduction of foreign diseases? Spreading like wildfire and leaving them BTFO
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>>51378876
They were unironically better though. Natives were pretty loyal to the spanish crown, and pretty much always on the loyalist side during the different independence wars of the 18th century.
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>>51379275
Everyone was murdering and torturing fellow europeans in europe, and protestants were as cruel if not more than catholics.
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>>51378988
Oh yes they most certainly do. Try to start a thread about the Nubian dynasty. Just fucking try to get it off the ground without it being spammed to death with "WE WUZ KANGS".
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>>51375657
The Holy Roman Empire
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>>51379278
Not sure, I'm not an anthropologist, all I know is one of the pervailing theories is that there used to be much more natives in the Americas than there were when Europeans first came over, but something caused their society and populations to collapse, and by the time the Europeans arrived they were just beginning to re-discover civilization (as seen in the Iroquois League and the Great Lakes slave-trade), but sadly the new influx of disease and the conquest of the Europeans acted as the final nail in the coffin for them.

No idea what caused the collapse. Could've been an apocalypse war with Ancient Hebrews for all be bloody know
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>>51379373
>>51379221
Mesoamerica and the Andes didn't suffer in a degree that can be compared to North America, or at least the result wasn't as apocalyptic. The mesoamerica of the aztecs is better compared with the franks arising as west-european hegemons after the fall of Rome than with a post-apocalyptic world.
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>>51376330
>reading the text books in school without doing research outside of school
>not realizing earlier hominids have been found in asia for over 20 years but Academia is too liberal to take away the only thing niggers "have"
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/1227_051227_asia_migration.html
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>>51376330

>>51379484

I want /pol/ to die in a fire
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>>51379356
Wrong.

>>51378022
Wrong.

>>51377347
Wrong.

>>51377252
Wrong.

>>51377238
Wrong.

>>51377113
Wrong.

Really /tg/, I expected better of you.
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>>51379768
America is the greatest empire though. Name one other empire that has commanded the absolute power that America has.

You can't. The trend of history and technological development means that later empires are greater that past empires. Until technology resets it's development. Which very well could happen as a result of America falling.
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>>51375657
Mongol Empire
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>>51375657
IDK, the Byzantine Empire?
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>>51375657
Sovjet empire
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>>51375657
The Ottomans, obviously.
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>Setting has 'The Empire'
>It's a Not!'Holy' 'Roman' 'Empire'
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>the setting isn't set in the bronze age

Shame.
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>>51375657
>greatest historical Empire of all time
>Note Rome

Contradiction in terms.
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>>51375629
Fuck you, Rome is The Empire. Get a different name if i'ts not gonna have roman inspiration.
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>>51380263
>laughinghan.jpg
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>>51376306
Sub-Saharan I think you meant sub-Saharan. Easy mistake to make.
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>>51380381
I think most people mean sub-Saharan when they say sub-Saharan.
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>>51375657
WE WUZ KANGZ?
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>>51375657
If you say Japan, I'll slap you.
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>>51380113
But anon, America isn't an empire. It's a constitutional republic!
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>>51380545
Technically, but that doesn't stop more power than Cesar ever commanded from being concentrated in the hands of trump.
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>>51380545
>The British Empire wasn't an Empire, it was a constitional monarchy and its dependencies!
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>>51377241
How does that loin cloth even work?
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>>51380652
Its probably two-piece, a breech cloth and a cloth wrap/belt

Or a slutty sarong
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>>51380276
>not even empire in the name

Enjoy your middle KINGDOM, chink.
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>>51375657
I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE TELL US WICH ONE YOU MEANT
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>>51380545
At this point empire is an almost meaningless term. It just means "relatively big and powerful".
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>>51380835
Wrong, it means the state has foreign holdings.
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>>51380849
Plenty of states had foreign holdings without being called empires.
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>>51380902
Sure but that's the core requirement for "Empire"
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>>51380478
Well it's a good thing then that the answer isn't Japan
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>>51380113
>tfw when you lose the space race
>it's cool cause propoganda abd vilification will take care of the Soviets anyway.
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>>51377445
>HRE
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>>51375657
The khmer? The mugal? Bulgarian?
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>>51375657
Chinese
Mongol
Korean that got fucked up by Finland
empire of Karl the Great
Arabian Empire (Abassid/Umayyad)
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>>51380938
There's no core requirement, that's the point.
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>>51381143
Technically the Germans put the first 'objects in space' with the V-2 project (and came damn close in WWI with the Paris Gun), they were just never meant to orbit.

Deciding 'the space race' ends at 'a man in orbit' is fairly arbitrary.
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>>51375657
The Patriarchy.
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>>51381477
You're some pretty uneducated guy, you know that?
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>>51380825
Sorry friendo, but you have to guess it! Fortunately for you, no one has gotten it so far.
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>>51375629
What if the Empire is feudal britain but on a huge scale? Is that good?
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>>51378988
I've seen a lot of /pol/tards deny it on here. I can't imagine what it's like on /his/.
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>>51380113
What do we say about ironic shitposting?
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>>51381910
"Not today"?
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>>51381752
I-is it the hettite empire?
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>>51381714
Reading wikipedia doesn't make you educated.
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>>51375657
Jews?
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