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Claimed by the IVth

>>51373310

Angelus will save /hhg/

>>51373336
Scans of Book 8 when? :^)

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Anyone know where I can get this helmet? I can't find it on any of the legion kits.

>>51373358
Isn't that a Grey Knight helmet?

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2000pts fluffy DG infantry heavy list. I'm not sure I've kitted everything out properly. Crit please.

Death Guard, Traitor
RoW: The Reaping

HQ
Legion Centurion:
Artificer Armour, Power Weapon, Rad Grenades, Volkite Serpenta, Consul [Siege Breaker]

Legion Praetor:
Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Rad Grenades, Tartaros Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon

Elites
Legion Quad Launcher Support Battery:
3x Legion Rapier, Phosphex Canister Shot

Troops
Legion Heavy Support Squad:
Chem-munitions, Hardened Armour, Heavy Flamer, Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Space Marines
Legion Sergeant:
Augury Scanner, Nuncio-vox and Chainsword/Combat Blade, Melta Bombs, Rad Grenades

Legion Heavy Support Squad:
Hardened Armour, Lascannon, Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Space Marines
Legion Sergeant:
Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner,Nuncio-vox and Chainsword/Combat Blade, Melta Bombs, Rad Grenades

Legion Tactical Squad:
Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines
Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Bolters
Legion Tactical Sergeant:
Artificer Armour, Bolter, Rad Grenades, Power Weapon

Legion Tactical Squad:
Legion Rhino Armoured Carrier, 9x Legion Tactical Space Marines
Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Bolters
Legion Tactical Sergeant:
Artificer Armour, Bolter, Rad Grenades, Power Weapon

Legion Tactical Squad:
19x Legion Tactical Space Marines
Additional Chainswords/Combat Blades, Bolters
Legion Tactical Sergeant:
Artificer Armour, Bolter, Rad Grenades, Power Weapon

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>>51373385
Nope. And it's not any MkII helmet I know of.

>>51373401
Please fix your shitty formatting

>>51373426
Closest thing I can think of is the company champion helmets you get in the command squad boxes.

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>>51373438
Nope. It's none of the plastic kits. It looks like the helmets in the Death Guard Conversion Set, but those helmets are fixed to the torsos, got spikes, have grills instead of holes, and are all fucked up.

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>>51373493
I remember an anon posting an image kinda like this one, where the head was kitbashed with a GK helmet that sort of looked like the one you're looking for.

Another anon did a Joey edit of the pic.

>>51373358
>>51373493

I suspect it's had a fair bit of conversion, perhaps to remove a top vent. The holes look a little random too, consider the possibility that they've been added by hand. There's a similar-ish head in the BA tactical squad but I don't think that's right. Could be from one of Sevrin Loth's bodyguards.

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>>51373557
T'was me!

Also, it was a regular GK helmet like >>51373426
. That's why it didn't fit well into the terminator body.

>>51373358
Looks like a Crusade variant helm, albeit slightly different.

>>51373358
It does look familiar, but I can't put my finger on it. A veteran helmet of some sort from a plastic kit?

>>51373436
There's nothing wrong with my formatting at all, it's very clear and easy to read.

Please fix your shitty retardation and autism.

>>51373745
>it's very clear and easy to read
no

>>51373358
An old death guard kit helmet maybe?

>>51373773
It's only difficult to read if you're dyslexis or suffer from some other sort of learning difficulty.

Unit:
Upgrades

How is that hard to comprehend?

>>51373789
not him, but for example

Heavy support squad, Heavy flamers, rhino, hardened armour, AA/Aug/vox/meltabomb/rad nades

Is generally seen as acceptable while a copypasta from battlescribe that takes four times the size generally seems like less effort has been put in. By writing a list by hand you seem to have actually put thought into your list. Autism, sure, welcome to /hhg/, take your complimentary free chainaxe

>>51373789
You're needlessly dragging out each unit over multiple lines, you're writing out the full name of stuff which is a massive waste, you're listing free useless upgrades, you're listing tranports as an upgrade which makes seeing what stuff hass a transport on a glance impossible, you're listing the amount of men in a unit somewhere among the wargear and you're listing the unit sergeant as a seperate unit.

All these make your list a mess. It should look like this:

Siege Breaker Centurion - Artificier Armor, Power Weapon, Rad Grenades, Volkite Serpenta - 5867 points

Praetor - Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Soiked Dildo - 37445 pointss

etc

Also you miss the points cost of your entire army.

>>51373358
almost positive it's a heavily remodeled/reconstructed head from the death guard conversion kit

>>51373860
Being FW, they could just slap that shit together from unreleased stuff.

>>51373870
Right, but it honestly wouldn't be that complicated to cut off some of those heads and make them into pseudo pre-fall helmets.

Resin's easy peasy to cut up.

>>51373883
I've got a bunch of those at home just sitting in the bits box, might look into cutting them up.

Only 10 more days until the weekender and its friday sales! How glorious this is our last double digit day and then all of our dreams and hopes will happen and nothing could possibly prevent it! No delays, no shipment issues, no chinese pirates! Only glorious books and rules and models and gifts!

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>>51373821
>>51373817
>>51373773

DG, T
RoW: TR

HQ
LC: AA, PW, RG, VS, C- SB

LP: IH, PB, RG, TTA w/ PS a CB

E
LQLSB: 3x LR, PCS

T
LHSS: 9 x LSM, C-M, HA, HF, LRAC, AS, N-V + C, MB, RG

LHSS: 9 x LSM, HA, L, LRAC, AA, AS, N-V+C, MB, RG

LTS: 9 x LSM, AC/C, AA, RG, PW, LRAC

LTS: 9 x LSM, AC/C, AA, RG, PW, LRAC

LTS: 19 x LSM, AC/C, AA, RG, PW

Better, nonces?

>>51373870
>>51373883
I am pretty sure this is something that has come up before, and someone asked the FW staff about it.

If I remember, it's one of the artists' modified/personal stuff.

>>51374014
You know, being a sarcastic little shit really isn't going to increase your chances of getting helpful feedback.

>>51374032
That's not me (the anon who originally posted the list), I just got back from walking the dog. Someone else has been funposting in my absence.

>>51373860
Instead of knight heads, they should release more legion heads. They shouldn't try and appease all legions equally. Just put out kits that contains parts iconic to each legion, be it torsos, legs, arms, pads, head, backpacks, whatever.

>>51373883
I'm sure you could make some from MkII helmets. Just file off the rim.

>tfw plastic MkIIs could not come faster

>>51374003

You forgot the scanbegging.

>>51374115
no, only unicorn rainbow farts and giggling happy clouds once Inferno is delivered unto us by the Hand of Alan Our God and all will be well with the world and only joy and happiness and more joy as we all celebrate

>>51374032
Is this any better?

Death Guard, Traitor

RoW The Reaping

HQ
Legion Centurion: AA, Power Weapon, Rad Nades, V Serpenta, Siege Breaker 135pts

Legion Praetor: Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Rad Nades, Tartaros Armour, Combi-bolter 175pts

Elites
Quad Launcher Support Battery: 2x Rapier, Phosphex 240pts

Troops

Heavy Support Squad: 9 x Marines, H Flamers, Hardened Armour, Chem-Munitions, Augury Scanner, Nuncio-Vox + Chainsword, Rad Nades, Rhino 310pts

Heavy Support Squad: 9 x Marines, Lascannons, Hardened Armour, AA, Augury Scanner, Nuncio-Vox + Chainsword, Melta Bombs, Rad Nades, Rhino 505pts

Tac Squad 9 x Marines, Bolter + Chainsword, AA, Rad Nades, Power Sword, Rhino 210pts

Tac Squad 9 x Marines, Bolter + Chainsword, AA, Rad Nades, Power Sword, Rhino 210pts

Tac Squad: 19 x Marines, Bolter + Chainsword, AA, Rad Nades, Power Sword 295pts

2000pts

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>>51374199
wow, its almost like youre not a complete 40kid with proper formatting, wew lad

>>51374199
Not nearly enough anti-tank. You have 1 unit in the army that can hurt tanks, that won't do at all. At the very least add shatter shells to the quad launchers. Really I think you need a 3rd anti-tank unit as well at 2000 points.

Also, why no power scythes? Apart from against white scars and emperor's children they mean your AA-wearing sergeants should win any challenge.

>>51374240
>>51374199
In seriousness, you lack any heavy punch, any AntiAircraft, and any varied damage output. You would be better off avoiding either the tacblob or the mortars, since they both do the same job of removing infantry. Consider swapping your lascannon dudes for three chainfist-wielding cortus dreads with melta or gravguns, since that'll actually achieve something. Use the 240~ odd points from dropping your extraneous anti infantry unit to bring a jet or a dorito dreadnought. Consider lightning your HQ, since a delegatus would not be looking for a place to live quite so badly. Morty is one of your legions best assets, since he's nigh unkillable, teleports and is death to most units and especially robots. He's one of the few primarchs worth his points, and unless you really, really want to pitch against someones deathstar he should win against anything.

>>51374199
Drop rhino from lascannons squad. They are going to be sitting in the rear, why waste the points.
Drop one rhino tactical squad.
Use points for another anti tank option. Like mortis Contemptor with Kheres. And power scythes on any squad getting in close with the enemy.

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Do you guys ever add bits like on pic related's helmet to your marines?

What's a proper way to run a slightly Killy Deathstar? This is all I've got so far-

>Praetor- Paragon Blade, Iron Halo, Cyber Familiar, Melta Bombs
>Primus Medicae- Terminator Armor, Cyber Familar
>Terminator Bodyguard- 3 Bodyguards, Terminator Armor, 1 Chainfist

That's 445 points, and I'm using Iron Hands (obviously) so -1 Str to all shooting. I think a Navigator (using one of those sick Electropriest models) would be pretty funny to just additionally fuck over shooting, and that'll give 10 bodies exact so I can still take a Land Raider. Thoughts?

>>51374747
>Imperator Vult

I have a terrible idea for a space marine army now....

>>51374790
Don't forget to either put a grenade harness on one terminator, or frag assault launchers on the land raider. It's a small thing, but it can make a big difference.

Also, afraid you can only take terminator bodyguards if the praetor is in terminator armour too, so the land raider's full with what you have there. Personally I'd take a chaplain over a medicae, but that's very much personal preference.

>>51374790
>AA Praetor
>Terminator bodyguard

Bruh...

>"If the Legion Praetor which is part of the Legion Command Squad’s Force Organisation chart choice has Terminator armour, the squad may exchange their wargear for a set of Terminator armour."

>>51374271
>>51374419
>>51374503

Alright, changed the Lascannon squad for 3 Cortus Dreads with chainfist/melta/grav and removed one of the Tac Rhino squads. That leaves me at 1790pts.

I don't quite understand this bit
>Consider lightning your HQ, since a delegatus would not be looking for a place to live quite so badly.

I'll add Mortarion in at 2500pt games, I can't fit him in otherwise.

>>51374850
>>51374790
>>51374887

Alternative take - he could stick with the AA on the command squad and give them all combat shields for the invuln, which would let him max the unit out and still fit a navigator in there. Yes, a couple of spaces in the land raider would go to waste, but then you get to take two more bodies.

>>51374747
No, but now I will.

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>>51374747
I play Dark Angels. So obviously yes

>>51374975
He could keep the Primus in terminator armour (tartaros for the sweep). It's pretty much the same price as AA, refractor field and a power weapon anyway. And since he takes up 2 slots, you're only wasting 1 slot.

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>>51375009
>MkIII
>MkVI helmet

>>51374924
Ok, so your HQ cant teleport in anywhere, since this is 30k and you;re reaping besides. Therefore, do you expect your HQs to footslog with the big unit of tacmarines*? A few medusae shells, quad mortars or even just running into a unit of termies and a character would cost you over a quarter of your army. If i were you, i would build towards 2.5k right now, drop the praetor and bring morty instead, since he fills the MoTL requirement. Either that or drop the siege breaker/phosphex and do something different with those points.

*Morty is extra hard to kill and can teleport, so he doesnt need an escort like most every other character does.

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>>51374791
Given the DAs and the Fists exist I'm sure that it's fine. As for my pic it's basically how to sum up an AL Harrowmaster's helmet I'm doing writefaggotry about.
>>51375007
Go for it.
>>51375009
Nice, Brother.

reminder that the heresy took away the cute brotherhood between fulgrim and (best primarch ferrus manus)

>>51375009
where's the helmet-wings from as someone who's not well versed in DA bits?

>>51375252
probably ravenwing kit

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>>51374003
However, whith how prominent the Custodes are on the cover of the book, it might be that the rumours were true and most of the SW and TS rules have been removed from this book due to time constraints. Meaning things like rites of war and legion-specific characters and units are going to feature in a Prospero part II book

>>51375242
>My Brother-Primarch Can't Be This Cute

>>51375252
Ravenwing command squad. The wings are attached to the MkVI helmet. The regular ravenwing sprues comes with loose wings you can mount on different armour marks.

>>51375114
Okay, so targeting 2.5k, dropped the praetor and added Mortarion. What should I add to fill in the last 380pts? A Dorito for some AA?

>>51375319
You're so desperate for Inferno to be a disappointment, aren't you? First constantly going on about mythical delays, now some idea (that hasn't been on any rumour site I check) that the book's getting gutted & split in two. Why?

>>51375402
Body guard or transport for him maybe? Despite his ninja skills, that's how I see him run often to guarantee an early charge

>>51375319
>Prospero part II book
haha, no

Wolves would be in a Wolf Cull section of HH17 and TS won't get rules because all they did during the Heresy is break the webway then give up and go traitor.

You really think FW would give Thousand Sons stuff if they don't here?

If we don't get anything then it can't be unplayably over-costed and tactically useless.

t. Thousand Sons player

>>51375319
>SW have legion torsos and pads
>TS have legion torsos, pads, helmets, contemptor
>FW is known for releasing all the models relating to a book around the time it comes out
>HH books are known for reflecting the content

>>51375463
Okay, so.

Death Guard, Traitor

RoW The Reaping

HQ
Mortarion: 3 x Death Shroud Bodyguard, Rad Nades, Melta Bombs, LR Phobos, Armoured Ceramite, Extra Armour, Heavy Flamer, Chem-Munitions 860pts

Legion Centurion: AA, Power Weapon, Rad Nades, V Serpenta, Siege Breaker 135pts

Elites
Quad Launcher Support Battery: 3x Rapier, Phosphex 240pts

Cortus Dread Talon: 3 x Dreads, Chainfists, Gravgun, Melta, Extra Armour 495pts

Troops

Heavy Support Squad: 9 x Marines, H Flamers, Hardened Armour, Chem-Munitions, Augury Scanner, Nuncio-Vox + Chainsword, Rad Nades, Rhino 310pts

Tac Squad 9 x Marines, Bolter + Chainsword, AA, Rad Nades, Power Scythe, Rhino w/ Extra Armour 225pts

Tac Squad 9 x Marines, Bolter + Chainsword, AA, Rad Nades, Power Scythe, Rhino w/ Extra Armour 225pts

2490pts

What do you think will be "free ***" for sons and wolves?

>>51375656
If you can shave points off, shatter shells might be good backup AT

>>51375656
Looks good enough, just run like hell of your opponent brings light anti-armor and a Vindicator.

Like seriously, an IWfag with a squad of Tyrants (or fuck, even a support Squad) and some Medusas will delete everything good you have- aside from Mortarion and his gang- and just camp objectives.

Also look out for haywire, if your Primarch star loses its vehicle than kiss those points goodbye, it's 900 points that'll do jack

>>51375407
Except for the part where they said the book was coming out early March instead of February, you mong

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>>51375680
SW get their knots free from TS asses.

>>51375680
SW: Free chainaxes
TS: Free ML1 on every Character

>>51375746
>SW: Free chainaxes

Please no, I don't want to model my dudes with chainaxes and I sure as shit don't want to listen to "lol why didn't you give them chainaxes?" every single time I field them.

>>51375746
Chainaxes are Angron's boys thing so no.
Maybe free wolf?

>>51375719
Source?

Most likely people already know but Legio Custodes with bolters.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/330199-hh-weekender-schedule/page-2#entry4632516

>>51375680
>Tsons
Psyker Brotherhood on all units, 5++ on perils.
>Wolves
Fleet, Furious Charge, Rampage on characters.
Screencap it, bitches, I know I'm right.

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>>51375867
HYPE
Y
P
E

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>>51375032
It's experimental :^)

You probably won't like this one either anon.

>>51376010
Is that a bolter custodes? I really hope it's a bolter custodes. I need bolter custodes in my life. Wonder if it's a whole new model or a conversion kit for the plastic custodes.

>inb4 it's armed with a regular bolter like the spear dude

>>51376010

Those had better be either be some pretty souped up bolters and they had better still have power knives otherwise I have no idea what their point would be

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>>51376252
>bolter with all the special ammo types and a power knife
>everything people have always bitched about Marines not being

Truly they'd be the Space Marines of Space Marines.

>>51375929

I doubt it will be free on all units. Probably 20pt upgrade for all squads

Also guessing IC can buy mastery lvls for 25 a lvl but WL must have highest mastery level in the army.

>>51375407
We are just setting ourselves up for disappointment because then we will either be right all along and have a I-was-right-all-along boner, or we will be pleasantly suprised. It's a win-win strategy

>>51375716
>>51375684
Okay, cheers lads. At least it's not utter shit.

>>51374790
>What's a proper way to run a slightly Killy Deathstar?
Dorn, Siggy, Full PF&SS command squad, Chaplain in Termie armour, P medicae in Termie armour, Apothecary, 10 templars and two techmarines in the AEtos Dios.

>>51376345
FUCK me.

I just dropped 500 on my blackshields.

Now I have to buy an allied outcast custodes force? My god.

>>51375867
>we aren't having grav rhinos because Custards aren't just marines +1
>gives them tactical squads
I can't wait for the organization for Custodes to be exactly the same as the Codex Astartes

Was there/is there going to be any Mechanicum in Inferno? I heard something about Xana skulking around stealing psychic robot tech and I want some more glorious fluff for best Forge World.

>>51375867
>top knots AND spikes on their helmets

Boy, Custodes sure do get all the bells and whistles.

I, for one, am excited. I'm just angry that now I need to get more Custodes. Unless there's an easy and simple way of converting Stormcast to use those bolter arms and heads.

>>51376995
Fuck storm cast anon. Buy chinaman custodes.

>>51375319
Or, and this is crazy but hear me out, FW wanted to put new ready to be bought models on the cover rather than the usual space marines or dreads.

>>51376104
'Brother, duck!'
'Why, we arent' under fire, brother'
CLAAANG
'The door, brother, the door'

>>51377048
>buying more than bare minimum of resin

No thanks.

>>51377116
Sure, resin is harmful if you breathe it in ect.

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>>51375836
From the first version of the article on Warhammer Community

>>51377172
And? They have copies at the weekender and general sale happens after. That happens with every book.

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>>51377172
>Great vehicle support
>Not being both the vehicle and the support
Scrubs. Shitty terran equipment, too.

Also, is it only me who's a bit tired of all the "muh greatest warriors" things? I thought the whole point of 30k was to be a proper army rather than a bunch of maniacs? It's why I dislike the Wolves. Oddly enough, I quite like the Emperor's Children since they have a proper character and combat philosophy, but not the Woofs, who are just"I is best despite lack of tactics or planning of any real degree because Fuck You".

>>51377162
a good one i havent heard in years

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Just finished Master of Mankind, and I really don't get the ending. Why did Ra had to run from E?
Why was he left in webway? Wouldn't be safer for him to be taken back to Terra, to be put in some kind of stasis? In gellar field or something? That way the only thing that can kill the Emperor is safe and it is known where, guarded by custodians.

>>51377692
As with many of BL's books lately, it is best not to question such things or try to find logic behind anything

Virtues of the Sons/Sins of the Father audio link anyone?
Or Inferno scans

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>>51377217
They would have mentioned it if it was there

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Oh look, they pushed it out again.

>>51377824
I hear your friendly neighbourhood chinaman has Inferno already, if you get in touch he can send you a resin cast of the book.

>>51377824
>Inferno scans
Fuck you anon, I was just meming last threads.

Scans of the Burning One do not, could not, will not exist ever.

>>51377850
Fuck off m8, it's just boring now.

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>>51377883
angry awoooo detected

>>51377850
Anon, that was yesterday's, this is todays.

I want to make a fluffy Dark Angels list taking in a good amount of their stuff, but it's hard to decide what makes the cut. 3,000 is the new 1,850 where I'm at, so that'll be what I work towards. Here's what I've got so far;

HQs:
Praetor (170)
Paragon Blade, Iron Halo, Jump Pack

Elites:
Terminator Squad (440)
>2 Chainfists, Land Raider, Armored Ceramite
Terminator Squad (440)
>2 Chainfists, Land Raider, Armored Ceramite

Troops Choices:
>Assault Squad (285)
15 Marines, 3 Power Weapons, Calabanite Blade, Melta Bomb
>Assault Squad (285)
15 Marines, 3 Power Weapons, Calabanite Blade, Melta Bomb

Fast Attack slot:
>Jetbike Skyhunters (230)
5 Skyhunters, Acid Shells
>Javelin Landspeeders (165)
3 Speeders
>Javelin Landspeeders (165)
3 Speeders

Heavy Support:
Vindicator (120)
Vindicator (120)

That leaves just over 500 points, which I'm not certain how to use. Dreadnoughts could bring some AA I definitely need, but a Sicarian could work too. Apothecaries/Medicae might be a good investment also.

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>>51377934
Whoops.

We need to breathe new life into these threads.

I'd take 'how do we xenos in 30k' over this shit psoting

>>51377956
https://www.dropbox.com/s/7eugwq8pcz1z3db/TheGreatCrusadeConquest%20%281%29.pdf?dl=0

R8 it m8.

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>>51377956
buckle up cuz this is gonna be pure unfiltered shit for the next three months

>>51377956
Militia and cults could easily represent a myriad variety of xenos. Heck, the Ogryn entry mentions that.

>>51377692
Concerned about him being on Terra in a worst case scenario of him being used as a weapon.
The webway is impossibly huge, and a fucking labrynthe to the point that a single being could virtually vanish. It's actually a question of how Abbadon found Drach'yen to begin with, really.

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>>51377934
>>51377953
>>51377850
You're both wrong.

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WEEK AND A HALF

>>51377956
And there's Eldar Corsairs.

>>51378032
>SW and TS are waiting for the heat death of the universe for rules
>I'm still going to get my banana cream pies by the end of the month
BEST END

>>51377956
Ive played my Dangels against Orks loads of times and its pretty damn fun

>>51377956
This makes me wonder, would Eldar show up in the Great Crusade at all? I know the whole "our rapeorgies accidentally got so hawt we created a chaos god that destroyed the heart of our empire, instantly killing billions" thing may have put them in a bad mood, but would Craftworlds and the like still be encountered by the Legions?

We know Crons were buddying it up with Guilliman/Sanguinus, Orks were crumpin it up like usual.

>>51378093
Most likely, it's not as if they were exactly unified in purpose at the time.

>>51378093
Eldar have turned up, (normally in legionaries thinking back on how they killed them,) but it often sounds like they're using dark eldar tech, albeit with some elements of psychic stuff. For example, when lorgar and angron board an eldar cruiser the crew are using poisoned needle rifles, but are acting on the basis of a seer's vision. There's also lots of references to "witches" in the eldar ranks, sometimes it sounds like that means psykers and sometimes it sounds like it means gladiatorial wychs.

Oh, and the eldar in the cabal is an autarch, and eldrad ulthran is about too, but I'm continuing to pretend the entire cabal storyline is non-canon because it's so fucking stupid.

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>>51378218
>Eldar

Is there any idea of Legion numbers just prior to the Seige of Terra? With traitor legions like DG and NL are they still in the 40-50k range or would the war have brought them down to below 10k like the wolves and shattered legions?

On the topic of primarchs with helmets, which kind of helmet would Horus wear?

>>51377085
Kek.

>>51378710
a justaerin helmet.

>>51378596
Legions shit on loyalists pretty hard early in the war. 60-80k more like?

Still, I always head canon'd that legions were 1,000,000 to start and chapters became 10k in M41. Fits the galactic scale more easily.

>>51378737
Top knot included?

>>51378797
of course! where else would abby get his 40k topknot fetish. he's such a daddys boy he wants horuses knot

>>51377938
First of all, put your upgrades in one line with the unit and dedicated transports in a seperate line below the unit. No one wants to read how many chainfists your termies have when he just wants to know if the have a raider.

Secondly, what kind of land raiders

thirdly you need more troops, you wont capture shit with 4 scoring units at 3000, two of which you have to use offensively.

fourthly you need something to bust heavy vehicles, and something to bust flyers.

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I hope they only let magnus move and run d3 because of his stumpy little legs

>>51376677
Look, I play IF, and that post is just eye sex for me.

>tfw you will never get Huscarls

>>51377998
You have my interest. Ill give it a read

>>51378015
This is very true. And I like it. I just want more alien-alines. Tyranid like, foreign and spooky. I know you could just use nids and call them whatever. Thats easy. But taking a peek at the aboce great crusade book might just be what im looking for

>>51378055
These are exactly what sparks my interest. I have a 2k force of them. I really want to try them against a 30k army.

>>51378091
I believe it. I always have fun fighting orks. Just really easy to metagame against them. I have a caliver squad that i made because volkite is awesome but would feel almost bad using them. Almost.

>>51378218
Could have been Corsairs.

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>>51378886
>>tfw you will never get Huscarls
WHY DOES EVERYONE FORGETS ABOUT REGULAR COMMAND SQUADS?!

ARCHAMUS LITERALLY SAVED DORN USING A GLORIOUS INTERVENTION assuming Chosen Warriors can do so just like characters can, which is pretty much a Command squad's purpose

Oh, that's right, no Character rules :^)

And yes, Angron's Devourers are a Terminator Command squad too.

>>51377260
If you read their books, you'd understand that they do have their own tactics and strategies. Pack tactics, Weak point exploitation, Understanding the enemy tactics and working towarda countering that.

t. Impeial Fist player.

p.s. Magnus did wrong, but Russ did just as much wrong.

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>>51378960
>TFW everybody isn't satisfied unless every single thing for their legion has its own, special snowflake unit entry and models.
>Whilst generic unit entries are perfectly fine to represent them, just maybe not with the same name as that legion calls them in the fluff.

>>51377998
Preliminary read through

Cool variety but frightful amount of AP2-3 and rending in CC and things that ignore cover. I haven't worked out the crunch as to how much you can actually have in an army fully yet. But its spooky looking.

>>51378960
I forgot because i haven't read up to book 39 or whatever. I'm on Deliverance Lost.

>>51379025
The moment Command Squads become the Characters they should be, and get storm shields is the moment a ridiculous number of super speshul skwuads become viable.

>>51379239
FW should just change the command squad Chosen special rule to (Characters) via errata. That they can't have a legion's most prized wargear is just plain dumb.

>Terminator command squad with claws, fists and powerdaggers plz

>>51379305
That wouldn't do anything, you don't get 2 extra attacks for having 3 melee weapons.

>>51379366
I meant having a mix of claw + dagger, fist + dagger and chainfist + dagger ofcourse. But expecting people would think me smart enough that I didn't mean having all 3 on each terminator might have been optimistic

>>51379418
Nice damage control m8.

>>51379024
Wasn't that the Sons of Horus schtick?
I'm having trouble understanding what they're actually meant to DO. They're not as good bullies as the SoH, not as scary as the NL, not as choppy as the WE, not as good at duelling as the Emperor's Children and not as durable as the Iron Hands and the Death Guard. So what are they for? Are they some kind of Captain Planet legion of perfectly average melee?

Also, there's a reason the rest of the legions fight with discipline, even the World Eaters. I just can't see how they wouldn't be totally ruined fighting any remotely equal foe that didn't run away or charge down to lose the futile melee battles. Iron Warriors, Hands, Mechanicum, anything other than the Thousand Sons outnumbered 10 to 1. Pretty damn poor executioners unless you literally just need heads cut off helpless captives.

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>>51379025
>>Whilst generic unit entries are perfectly fine to represent them, just maybe not with the same name as that legion calls them in the fluff.
Exactly.
>Hey anon what's your Command squad like? BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A RARITY YOU'RE FIELDING ONE TO BEGIN WITH
>No prob. I call them Huscarls and they wear badass cloaks. Their legion specific rule is that they don't smile. EVER.

I tried to find that excerpt of a commander saying he served alongside the Fists during a campaign and that he swears he never saw them smile even once, so have Dorn's buttcheeks instead.

>>51379305
>Random tactical sergeant, here I give you the phoenix spear. Only a Custodian spear would be more powerful than this weapon
>Not you, terminator Command squad Chosen. If you want to wield one either apply for the Phoenix Guard or demote yourself to tactical sergeant.

If I understand it right, the SW's mindless barbarism is to lull the enemy into a sense of comfort, that they obviously have the upper hand as they're fighting a bunch of brainless savages, while also allowing the SWs to get a feel for their enemy's tactical tastes, before the SW suddenly turn tacticool mode on and fuck shit up

>>51379518
>MUH TEEP OF DA SPEEEAR
Enhanced reserve rules, some deepstriking bonuses and +1BS within 12" (which could allow you to outnumber the enemy), as well as the "Forwards!" Rite of War, all those elements combined are trying to incite you to go forwards and be agressive.

Like normie +1. You know, like the Fists, but choppier.

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>>51379654
>We were merely pretending to be savages [Wet growl]
Worse than Alpha memery.

>>51377172

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/01/23/inferno-revealed/

Not March.

>>51379811
That doesn't lend me a date.

>>51379654
That's more Russ personally, rather than his legion.

The wolves are definitely more savage and employ more aggressive, head on tactics than the other legions, barring perhaps the World Eaters.

>>51379654
>>51379868 is right. It was Russ who was the one who was pretending. The Wolves had a culture to them, but it wasn't something fake.

>>51377172
October white dwarf said B@C was £95 not £80
This means they are about to pricehike it up

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Don't know how long it's been up, (probably being a slowpoke here,) but I just noticed the getting started page on FW's website has a little bit describing every legion's history and tactics:
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Horus-Heresy
I thought it was kind of neat, a decent place for new people to read up on the legions perhaps.

>>51378808
He's already taken Horus' fist.

>>51378960
>And yes, Angron's Devourers are a Terminator Command squad too.
But then they would be Chosen Warriors, which they aren't.

>>51378884
that's fine, he can just levitate for his movement during the psychic phase :3

>>51379728
>Geigor is a Lone Wolf and it's all Magnus' fault
Nice touch.

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>>51379868
>>The wolves are definitely more savage and employ more aggressive, head on tactics than the other legions, barring perhaps the World Eaters.

>>51379623
That smile story is how they get the nickname The Stonemen.

>>51379623
Where is the ass cheek quote from?

>>51380019
That is neat.

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>>51380059
They were, back in the day.
Back when he could think, Angron saw they wanted to honour him with a terminator retinue even if everybody knew he had no need for such a squad, so he allowed the warriors to form the Devourer squad. Fitting for an Eater of Worlds.

But as his condition worsened he only ever saw them as a nuisance, and the rest of the World Eaters came to realize being a Devourer had become a dead end job devoid of both glory and purpose, ever struggling to catch up to a Primarch that didn't need them and that now didn't want them either, having forgotten why they existed in the first place.

Cataphractii Command squads represent well the role of the Devourers, being able to accept challenges becoming a moot point since Angron's Red Sands rule WANTS him to get in challenges himself, not to mention they can't run like Fleet Angron can, or Sweep Advance like I7 Angron can.

The Red Butchers kind of behave that way, but they don't fucking care. As such they're closer to Angron than the ever-despairing Devourers will ever be.

Even if most of them were originally loyalists: Because they have run out of fucks to give, just like Angron.

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>>51380283
Echoes of the Old Night.
A sad, sad story about DG Destroyers, seen from the perspective of a Chaplain.
Filled with "plz buy Destroyers" sub-tones.

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>>51379868
>>51380190
The SW are about teamwork and concerted aggression. Remember theses are the only guys who get an entire unit entry solely for people whose squads are dead.

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>>51380190
Hail the original wolves, made in the image of he who would become First among equals and, eventually, the doom of Mankind.

>>51380378
lupercal brother!

>>51380346
Oh cool, cheers!

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>>51380378
Lupercal!

>>51380307
I like this post.

>>51380470
Thanks

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>>51380378
>>51380461
>>51380423
Kill for the Living, Kill for the Dead!

>>51373401
I'd be tempted to leave the lascannon guys on foot - if they're moving, they aren't shooting. Spend the points on a pintle-mounted weapon for the heavy flamer squad's Rhino. I guess the three Rhinos would go after one flank or objective, and the 20-man squad would slowly advance in front of the lascannons like a human shield.

In larger games the lascannon squad probably wants to be backed up by Grave Wardens. They're pretty shooty for Terminators but when your lascannon guys get attacked by drop podders, the Grave Wardens are good enough in close combat to do something about it.

>>51380190

FW describe everything with superlative adjectives, it pisses me off reading the Death Guard and World Eaters bits of the Legions book and reading 'This most feared Legion' this, 'the most terrifying Legion' that. I guess I'll just go stick my thumb up my ass as a single solitary tear trickles down my skull-faced, bat winged helmet.

>>51378596
FW's still covering the early Heresy and BL has only started talking about the March on Terra... so there isn't much info on the traitor side. The White Scars made it back to Terra with less than half their fleet - no hard numbers but 40% strength could be reasonable. Most of the traitor legions should be in better shape because they've been able to ipick their battles and induct new dudes. I'd be surprised if any were down to 60% or less (of post-Isstvan III numbers).

>>51381464
Then I guess you won't like it when the SoH use Terror Assault in HH4.
I like how Mortarion causes -1Ld Fear without even trying.
Just like me ;_;

>>51380597
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>>51381492
Although, a fair few dudes in the traitor legions seem to have embarked on generalised chucklefuckery rather than necessarily following Horus's grand plan. For example, there seem to be elements of several traitor legions that continue attacking Ultramar after Lorgar pulls out (ooh er missus). And the less said about the Emperor's Children the better. All that will have worn down the effective forces Horus has to hit Terra with some more, both from casualties in engagements he didn't order and because some forces aren't coming when called.

>>51377938
If you aren't using a -Wing RoW with DA your doing it wrong.
Ironwing or Ravenwing that shit up anon.

>>51373358
>>51373860
>>51373870
Apparently the sculptor who made the 40K Death Guard conversion kit (Mark Bedford?) started by making and casting uncorrupted versions of all the components, and then Nurgled them up from there. I think it's one of the uncorrupted parts.

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>>51376796
Most of the Mechanicum content will have to do with Zhao-Arkkad, a forge world aligned with the Thousand Sons that paints its automata in a pretty wild color scheme.

It's also the forge world that, in FW's Imperial Armour books, has recently been reconsecrated in M41 and has the STC for the CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT CARRIER.

>>51380346
>Filled with "plz buy Destroyers" sub-tones.
I remember seeing a review that summed it up as basically this. Didn't know there was sadness in it too. Worth reading?

>>51381945
horus really only convinced the shitty legions to join his cause, when it comes to their ability to follow a campaign plan and actually get shit done, with only mortarion and perturabo and their legions being in the "form an effective front line and get shit done." - and mortarion disappeared just before the siege for the whole japanese flu thing. he got 2 sneaky "I don't fight fair battles" legions in the NL and AL, he got nails for brains who deteriorated quickly into not much more then a beast that had to be led around and unleashed when appropriate. I'm surprised horus even made it to terra in the first place, considering the whole NL legion, the whole AL legion and large parts of his own disappeared into the void to do their own shit rather then conduct any efficient crusade.

>>51382334
It doesn't seem to be very highly regarded but I like it, probably because I'm biased toward Death Guard. It's fairly grimderp but has excellent descriptions of all the fucking nasty bio/chem/rad weaponry the DG armories hand out like candy on Halloween.

>>51382369
What are some good DG read anon? Besides their role in Scars Trilogy. I know they don't get too much screen time. Also nothing written by Gav, I know DG were sort of in his 30k/40k DA Legacy of Caliban abortion

What's the best way to run Anarchis Scoria?

Loving the way Mechanicum are truly insane in 30K with proper robots and rad weapons everywhere. I was thinking running two big Adsecularis blobs for tarpits and filling the rest of the space with Castellax, Ursarax, Vorax and a Thanatar or two.

>>51382417

Flight of the Eisenstein, Vengeful Spirit.

>>51382417
>>51382440
Why does nobody write about the DG :^/
I think we'll have to wait until Lord of Death to know more about them

>>51382417
Yeah, Morty's lost weekend on Molech is best forgotten as well.

I've read all of the BL books and they've all sort of blurred together in my head. Uh...

>>51382510
>I've read all of the BL books and they've all sort of blurred together in my head. Uh...
I hope it's a good pain

>>51382468
Lot of legions didn't get much or proper attention. And even those that did often got worse. In the Know No Fear novel, Ultramarines are awesome, impossible as that sounds. Only for the novels and shorts after that to completely destroy that brief moment

>>51382535
>And even those that did often got worse.
Idk, I kind of like the Iron Hands being a bit too angry for their own good

>>51382557
So far Iron Hands do seem to be the rare exception.

>>51382530
Not really no. Imagine having all of the Nick Kyme novels, Battle For The Abyss and the fucking Damnation of Pythos in your memory banks somewhere.

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>>51382557

>>51382619

Just finished reading everything from Scars forward, and jesus was Damnation of Pythos a worthless waste of time. Why does that story even exist? That was some Money Ninja-tier filler.

>>51382468
I wouldn't be surprised if it's a bit of a catch-22. They don't have much of a personality beyond "attrition warfare, chemical weapons, and gas masks", so none of the authors care enough to write about them and change that.

Anon, does non-compulsory Troops choices for Armoured Breakthrough only count Predators with Predator cannons or can the non-compulsory stuff take turret upgrades.

>>51382730
>>51382468
Be careful what you wish for. The salamanders didn't have much characterisation for a long time, then Nick "Fucking" Kyme decided to make them his. See also: Gav Thorpe and the Dark Angels (and he's not done a very good job with the Raven Guard).

>>51382709
Damnation of Pythos only makes sense if you also read the 40k book Pandorax.

Pandorax is the book with the space-bound interceptors imploding after the hull gets compromised "due to the extreme high pressure of deep space" amongst other violations however. I wouldn't recommend it.

>>51382709
Doesn't it have tie-ins to Pandorax? They're both set on Pythos, so I figured there'd be some lore connecting them or something.

>>51382784
>space-bound interceptors imploding after the hull gets compromised "due to the extreme high pressure of deep space"
Really trying to drive home the "space is an ocean" trope, huh?

>>51382782
What did he do to the Sallies?

>>51382827

Made them dull and boring as shit.

>>51382757
It looks like they have to have predator turret.

>>51382827
If you want to know true horror, read the Nick Kyme Salamander novels.

Featuring a fortress on Nocturne that destroys the Life-Eater virus with giant flame throwers and giant native dragon monsters that climb out of the earth to destroy an invading DG force.

>>51380307
You do remember it said Angron always left them behind

>>51380358
I bet SW will get a bonus in combat based on how many other SW units are within 12"
Screencap this

>>51382870
That sounds like it could either be really cool or really gay.

>>51382782
Good point. Still, it'd be nice for the Death Guard to have some character beyond something that was clearly written to make their later conversion to Nurgle seem inevitable. They just need a competent author to do it.

>See also: Gav Thorpe and the Dark Angels
To be honest, I've found Gav's handling of the Dark Angels the best of any of the HH authors, at least in their 30K incarnation. I haven't read anything post-Pharos though, so I don't know about Angels of Caliban.

>>51382217
HE WASSA CONSUL OF ROME.jpg

>>51382913

ADB did a far better job on the Dark Angels in one short story.

>>51382827
>>51382846
Other then the one Super Sayian ;P

>>51382929
I forgot about Savage Weapons. Yeah, that was tight.

>>51382439
That's pretty much the drill. Avoid Domitars and the Lascannon Thanatar, don't use Ursarax since Arlatax do the same job better and you can buff them.

Scoria works pretty much wherever. I stick him with two melee Castellax most times, but put him with Vorax and Outflank him to help with mobility if you want. Make sure to cast Rite of the Beast before fights and always buy the Xanatite Abeyant.

Also tack on a couple extra Domini with either nothing or a Machinator Array to fix your bots, cast Cybertheurgy and stave off handing over D3 VP if Scoria buys it.

>>51382958
Cheers, thanks for the tips.

>>51382958
Are myrmidons viable?

>>51382929
I bet every DA characters get a waifu knowing fucking ADB
inb4 people don't get the joke

>>51382468
I think Wraight likes them, hopefully he'll write Morty coming down with the flu.

>>51382912
It's really, really not good. He also struggles with characterisation to the point where his characters don't have any. Reading those novels was actually a difficult feat to accomplish, I had to read them in little chunks with frequent rests.

>>51382870

That one was a slog, but I thought the "Nocturne fucks you back" sequence was pretty good, minus the part where love and flames overcomes the sapient Chaos-infused Life Eater virus.

It takes real work to crib The Odyssey, strip out big chunks of the interesting bits, and leave in only the needlessly drawn-out journey.

>>51382996

Not in that story. That story has Corswain losing his sword in Curze's spine.

>>51383008
As well as the awful, repetitive ''''characterisation'''''.

"I am angry"
"I wish you weren't angry"
"But I am!"
cont.

Also the fucking retarded ending where a guy dies in a volcano and Vulkan magically comes back to life, still with a shard of lightning stone in his chest.

>>51382912

It's two parts cool, and two guys blowing three guys worth of gay. The Death Guard landing in force and finding out Nocturne really WAS a top-tier death world made sense and was enjoyable. But then there's the bit with the virus bombing and... yeah. It's bad. Multilaser bad.

>>51382860

Normally they're pretty clear with wording at FW though and that's super not clear when they've made similar rules since book one where it was clear as day.

>>51383119
>The Death Guard landing in force and finding out Nocturne really WAS a top-tier death world made sense and was enjoyable.
True.
I did like the Life Eater failing to kill a Death World on fire, that was nice...But Nocturne going full Avatar was extremely stupid.
Especially since Avatar itself was extremely stupid. Blue Pocahontas in space, basically.
>>51383101
>Vulkan is fine, he just needed lava
This is double-stupid.

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>>51383120
>Normally they're pretty clear with wording at FW though

>>51380015
Does that affect BoP as well?

>>51382757
The Compulsory Squads have to be basic Predator Cannon squads, everything beyond that is free game.

>>51383274

Say what you like, Pride of the Legion is pretty fucking clear about it's uses and restrictions and it's existed since BOOK FUCKING ONE.

why not just cut and paste FW? why not just cut and paste.

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>>51383333
Why would you just go on the internet and spread lies anon?

>>51379025

But Tac Marines don't have Fear and can't take drop pods like Terror Squads, and Assault Marines can't take melta guns and Chainglaives.

>>51383333
No, Predators with other turrets don't become Troops choices at all. Still Heavy Support.

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>>51382197
>mfw no way of getting my hands on that style of MkII helmet

>>51377692
Yeah, lets bring the echo of the first murder back into the fucking throne room inside a barely adequate cage of custodes that could break at any moment.

Genius idea.

>>51383436
>MkII helmet
What? How can that be Mkii?
It's the original picture >>51373590 edited, I tell you.

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>>51382217
I'm down-ish with it.
If they're allied to the Sons I'll prob do them orange and black.

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IF anon of the contemptor from previous posts. Trying to follow knight anon steps on alternate IF colour scheme. Its also a test bench for me to learn new techniques like dry brushing
(Yes i royally fucked up on the yellow.... i hate testor enamel paint.)

>>51383399
They do effectively have fear when you give the sergant the gory trophies or whatever NL have.

>>51383437
He meant why not lock up the Daemon ? I mean the Emperor must have had at least some kind of exotic device laying around from which there is no escape. Even daemons can't get out of a stasis field.

>>51383436
There's always a veeeeeery small chance that FW could cast those parts up and put them into production. I was hoping they'd do it back when they were making loads of upgrade packs, but they decided to go with those cartoony Collected Visions-style heads instead.

>>51375774
This put me off World Eaters. Best colour scheme of any Heresy Legion, especially when you add the blood, but fuck that Chain axe noise.

>>51383851
>Trying to follow knight anon steps on alternate IF colour scheme
Dear Emperor why?

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>>51383639
What do you mean how can >>51373358 be MkII? No vent on top, single eye piece, etc. Pretty much identical to the helmet on the FW plague marine kit, which is based on the very old plague marines, which had MkII helmets according to Goodwin's sketches.

It's funny how DG has the older helmet on a newer suit. You got the MkIII with MkII helmets and then there's the MkIV with MkIII helmet.

>>51383851
There's two of them now?! Two Knight Anons?!

>>51383935
They're multiplying!

>>51383886
At least chainaxes are iconic to WE.

>>51383878
Those helmets are fine! Don't talk shit about muh helmetfu.

>>51383851
The Night of the living Knight Anons
>>51383929
>It's funny how DG has the older helmet on a newer suit. You got the MkIII with MkII helmets and then there's the MkIV with MkIII helmet.
Because the only way to kill one of the unbroken blades is to destroy the head, otherwise they'll just shrug off the injury.
That's Mortarion genes for you.
Also, I thought it was simply a knightly helmet, but I guess it's based on MkII

>>51383868
The trite if true answer is because narrative beats logic, tho there is logic of a sort involved also.
The Webway is to all intents an infinite labyrinth, the Custodian groomed to be the best jailer for Drach.
Drach has to be recovered by Abaddon. Abby tracking down and taming Drach makes for an epic, mythic tale.
If the daemon was stasis-fielded or whatever in the palace, he'd need to break out or be released at some point and then you've got to come up with a story in which he doesn't immediately fuck everything up large trying to kill the Emperor on the throne. That'd be a bigger strain of disbelief than what we've currently got.

But fundamentally his inclusion in the first place was to generate a threat beyond the characters in the book, a threat to the Emperor and to set up a future story for Abaddon. Some will interpret that as ADB chaos wank, which is fine, it kind of is, but at least it was decently written.

>>51383935
;^)

>>51383935
No. It's Knightanon and his trusty sidekick, Squireanon

>>51384076
so im guessing theres gonna be a black legion drach miniseries in the future after the HH ends?

>>51384101
Seneschanon?
Castellanon?

>>51384101
>Squireanon
And lo, so was he dubbed
>>51384122
Abaddon finding Drach will be in Book 2 of the Black Legion series, I believe. Which will also feature Abaddon killing Sigismund in a duel.

>>51384122
Obviously written by ADB Mr. Chaos wins for infinity+1 ;^)

>>51383851
Jesus i just wanted to try the scheme before i bought some cataphractii.
Unfortunately im going to paint my legion vainilla, so i dont feel worthy of my new name XD

>>51384076
>But fundamentally his inclusion in the first place was to generate a threat beyond the characters in the book

Still don't understand why Drach needed to be that threat. In Visions you already had the greatest bloodthirster of Khorne got through all the defences and almost set foot on Terra, for example. Only the heroic efforts of a SoS prevented things from getting worse. That very short blurb was a lot cooler to read than the entire story arc around Drach. Yet for some reason BL thought not building upon already excisting material, but coming up with something new that doesn't fit into what came before is always the better plan.

>>51384210
Hm I guess.
Knight anon got the name because he thought the rules were telling him to bring 3 knights to a 2500pts game, after all.

>>51384011
Oh, I don't actually mind them all that much. They do look quite stylised compared with most other FW upgrades though. They're more like something that Kromlech might make.

>>51383851
That being said, i was inking of painting the head red (like a contemptor scheme)

Yay or ney?

>>51384210
No, you must follow the path of the few, so chosen was your name.

And so the Blades of Silver are reborn, back from the shadows to fight the opressive and ever-bolder order of the armor autists.

>>51383851
This scheme looks like shit and the only reason he did it in the first place is due to his boundless ineptitude. They look like half-assed Iron Warriors.

Drybrushing is also shit. If you're going to be a lazy faggot just get a fucking airbrush and paint it with lots of overdone lighting effects and transitions.

>>51384255
He didn't need to be, that's the bit that's ADB chaos wank. He picked Drach'nyen to big up the threat of Abaddon in 40K.
I think it's inventive and decently crafted, but do agree that particular choice was totally unnecessary.

>>51384325
>just get a fucking airbrush and paint it with lots of overdone lighting effects and transitions.

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

>>51384148
when is this gonna be released?

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>>51383935
Why have no knights when you can have a bunch?

>>51384521

Gee Knight Timothy, why does your mom let you have five churches on your base?

>>51384101
So /hhg/ declared and now he has to live with the name.

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>>51384521
Needs more Church.

>>51384547

So what Knight Household does Squireanon intend to build?

>>51384454
This year, probably last quarter. Book 1 is out there if you're interested. It's semi-related to HH in that the main chars have flashbacks to or talk about things that happened during the Heresy and the set up for the plot is that Falkus Kibre wants to find the Vengeful Spirit.

>>51384521
Where's the door on these things?

How's this 750 ZM list using The Reaping look?

HQ:
-Delegatus, 75
+Rad Grenades, 10
Total, 85

Troops:
-Tactical Squad, 125
Total, 125

-2xHeavy Support Squad, 135
+5 Marines, 100
+Heavy Flamers, free
+Chem-Munitions, free
+Rad Grenades, 10
+Hardened Armor, 25
Total, 270 (540)

Total, 750

S6 Shred HFlamers with Gets Hot sounds fun.

>>51384540
thats not a church thats a grave

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>>51384568
find somemthing more churchy

>>51384568
Bloodborne/10

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>>51384521
Man, knights look dumb when you put their legs together.

>>51384568
>church on top
>reminds me of the old psi-titans
>TS got a forge world allied to them

Psi-Titans and Knights confirmed?

Are Sicarian Battle Tanks ever worth it?

I mean sure, it's fast, but the whole thing is kinda meh.

The gun is cool as shit, but it's got less shots/hits than a heavy Support squad w/ Autocanons, lacks the mass of fire to take down heavier armor, and 6 shots, even with rending, can't deal heavy damage to elites or blobs with great efficiency.

I mean, for the same cost you get the hilarity that is a trio of Javelins, which deal great damage all around (and are one of the best suicide bombers in the game) but also doesn't take up space in the much-coveted heavy Support slot.

>>51384572
Don't know yet. We'll have to ask him.
>>51384627
It's reasonably churchy for a Knight.
>>51384628
Kek. Didn't even think of it like that.
>>51384665
No clue on the Psi-Titans.

>>51384591
Its the rectangle part above the icon thats above the head

>>51384540
IMPERATOR VULT

>>51384665
I don't think Knights are part of the Psychic Titan Legions, anon, as all Knights are part of a household or freeblades, and Psykers in the AdMech are sent not to the Black Ships, but the Psycic Titan Legios.

>>51384665
>Psi-Titans and Knights confirmed?

Probably an upgrade for Knights, like a new rank but psi-titan models will most likely be made for Adeptus Titanicus where they can make weird titans without much investment.

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While HHG is in a knightly mood, what do you think of the scheme for these knights allied to my Alpha Legion? (Sorry for gargantuan pic, phoneposting)

>>51384772
We've gone full VULT today.

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>>51384772

>tfw you jokingly name him Squireanon
>tfw you've got a full court of Knights painted in your own custom scheme and intend to get some FW ones after Inferno drops (so anytime between tomorrow and never)

Who else took the /honourandglory/ pill?

>>51383868

Iirc, you can only give trophies to non independent characters in a terror cult row.

>>51384772
I dunno. I think they're painted excellently, but they're a bit cartoony? If they work with the rest of your army, the whole effect is probably mad cool. I'm guessing they look a bit darker and shinier in person.

>>51384824

I have three Knights, but none of them are built. I was thinking of going full Mecha and kitbashing them with Gundams and other Mecha models.

>>51384705
>I don't think Knights are part of the Psychic Titan Legions

Yeah, well how many Psi-Titans do you think FW's gonna sell vs. Psi-Knights?

>all Knights are part of a household or freeblades, and Psykers in the AdMech are sent not to the Black Ships, but the Psycic Titan Legios.

Are the crews of Psi-Titans psychic or are the psykers housed in the weapon assembly (the church on top) itself? Because if so, all you need are knights willing to carry such weapons, mount a psychic church on top of the knight housing a Mechnicum or TS psyker, and wire the church to the Knight's guns.

>>51384772
4/10 at best, scale pattern looks utterly awful and ruins everything else

>>51384824
Freeblade Anon from above here

I also have an Atrapos ready to be primed and a questors-to-cerastus zombie horror lancer conversion still being built.

Next, whever that will be, I'm getting a either FW Lancer to convert into a Baron or an Acheron.

Big stompy robots are the best

>>51384869
The Psychic Titan legions crews are the Princeps themselves. Just like any other titan, but psychic. There's really not much fluff on the Psychic Titan Legions, other than that they are part of the most secret part of the AdMech, and that they don't go to the Black Ships.

Besides, why would FW build a psychic Knight when they can just build Knight Heads? Knight heads sell, y'know!

That, and Titans are actually pretty profitable for FW.

>>51384931
>The Psychic Titan legions crews are the Princeps themselves. Just like any other titan, but psychic.

Princep is the pilot. There's a whole host of other people operating the thing. And what's the point of a massive church on top if all the psychic power to the weapons is routed from the pilot's seat?

>That, and Titans are actually pretty profitable for FW.

Yes, but a Psi-Titan is a niche product compared to a generic titan.

>>51384918
you're not freebladenon, you're squireanon

>>51384931
>Besides, why would FW build a psychic Knight when they can just build Knight Heads? Knight heads sell, y'know!
That's surprising, since most of the ones that they've released so far are exceedingly mediocre.

>>51385010
That was sarcasm, sorry, it doesn't really translate well over text.

>>51382356
Dont forget the Emperor's Children literally accomplishing nothing of value the entire seige of Terra, too busy rounding up slave and torturing civilians for shits n giggles

>>51384998
>obviously not squireanon due to different pics
>posts freeblades
>is squireanon
I-the... what? I cant even be a squire. Doomed path and all

>>51384864
>kitbashing knights
>with Gundam

Commit sudoku to restore honor to your house

In all seriousness, a knight army isn't as OP as in 40k, and (depending on what rules you use for D) is actually pretty fun. Generally I take 5 in a pseudo-competitive environment of 2k, and run the general frame of;

>1 Knight of any type w/ Senechal (HQ)
>2 Knight Errants/Paladins (troops)
>2 Knight Wardens w/ Arbalester (Heavy Support)

Leaves you 25-35 points to dick around with. Recipe for fun times

>>51385095

Is there a batter candidate for making Knights all mecha and Japanese?

>>51385126
Yes, pimp them out Samurai style.

Look up some artwork and get to kitbashing, just stay the fuck away from that Anime shit. We've all seen those sad, sad pictures of the Tau

>>51384599
Does ZM have a different force org chart? The Reaping doesn't make heavy support squads compulsory troops.

>>51384688
They've still very common despite the points increase, so... looks like they're worth it. Great shooting against heavy infantry or light tanks, both of which are common, more durable than Javelins, mobile enough to get side shots...

>>51384918
They were, until GW decided that knights with two weapons couldn't fire them both at the same target!

>>51384772
Looks awesome. But a color that contrasts more with AL might be better. Keep the pattern, but use a color that's complementary with blue. Either that or use blue. But being close to blue is a little less satisfying.

>>51385263

Yes it does

>>51385359
>They were, until GW decided that knights with two weapons couldn't fire them both at the same target!
Fortunately, even though its a completely short sighted errata, the gap is small enough to still be able to hit just about anything aside from single model units with both guns.

>>51385263
1HQ 1Troop for the Combatant force org.

1HQ 1 Elites for Attacker

1 HQ 1 Troop for Defender, iirc.

Each of the three force orgs have different amounts of available choices.

Weapons with Shred gives +1S in ZM. All Blast and Templates gain Shred if they didn't have it previously, but don't get the +1S.

>>51382619
I liked Damnation. I know it did fuck all for the plot, but it was like an example of thousands of stories that happened during the Heresy that will never be told... because it didn't have a happy ending. And for good measure, bureaucracy filed it away... forever

>>51382929
This. A thousand times fucking this. Savage Weapons is one of my favorite HH pieces period.
NLs are awesome in it.
DA are awesome in it.
The Primarchs are awesome it in.
It just works.

>>51382996
> Hur Hur mah cool inside joke IN SPOILERS they ain't on my level
Kill yourself.

>>51384688
Also with Custodes coming out, accelerator cannons will be better against their skimmer vehicles ignoring jink. They're still good AA if you need extra in a pinch

>>51383851
That IW knight needs some hazard stripes anon

>>51384521
It's like a left to right transition of ok, shit, and shittiest.

>>51384772
Props for the interesting idea anon. The concept is cool... the execution however... not so.

>>51382913
>To be honest, I've found Gav's handling of the Dark Angels the best of any of the HH authors
Yeah, but just look at what the earlier DA novels were. That's more hopscotch and less Olympic pole vault.

I did really like Angels of Darkness, though, too bad the Gavinthrope ruined it with shitty, unnecessary sequels.

Squireanon here,
Unfortunately as i said, the knight was simply to test stuff. Its not part of my future 2.5K IF list.

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>>51383851
Mein negeranon.

>>51386457
Squire anon's Lord approaches!

>>51386457
Thanks for giving me the idea to try the alternate scheme, pity its not my cup of tea.
It was a fun build, tho i need to weather and still debating of painting the head red.

>>51384521
>Left Knight:
>"I am angry, angry about space elves!"
>Right Knight:
>"This is a flagrant violation of my Spiritual Liege's Codex Astartes!"
>Rear Knight"
>"Come on, guys, can't we all just get along?"

>>51386457
Did ... did you wash that stormlord ? Its blue areas are so ... splotchy

>>51386457
> the blue on that tank
I threw up a little in my mouth.
As a serious question: why do people who are fairly shit painters post pics? Have they diluted themselves into thinking that they are decent because those around them are even worse? Is it because they figure no one will ever know? You can just glance around the Internet for plenty of examples of how to paint better, without suffering the abuse and (worse) fucking memes.

>>51386579
my whole WE army is washed with the FW wash recipe but I'll be going back and hopefully fixing it with thinned down ceramite white, I just need to buy a new pot of it because it's gonna take a fucking cumload to cover everything.

>>51386611
I think anon is pointing out your blue over white is still showing white through. Could use more blue layers still. Best not putting dark colors over white primer

Duuude, I listened to Butcher's Nails again.
Angron not knowing or caring if he got his face split open.
His replacement iron teeth.
Curze's bedroom.
Lotara's and Kharn's voices.
Argel Tal's double daemonic voice

Damn this is a good audio drama

>>51373310
Post your wish list for Angelus. Go!

>>51386563
hahahaha yes

The left knight does have the most experience kill xenos. Mostly Tau though. A lot of Tau.

>>51387172

Blood Angels Jump Pack Destroyers designed to utterly eradicate enemies.

Dark Angels Dreadwing Terminator Destroyers.

>>51387172
You know the post hit the bump limit a while back, right?