Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>51372957
Fuck off.

Just because it's not lewd doesn't make you any less of a cunt.

>>51372957
Niggah, witch hunting is against the Code of the Wyld Stallings too.
That is totally bogus.

>>51372957
>Friendly reminder to be excellent to everyone. And that includes NOT driving off a GM by autisming and trying to shove in sexy loli catgirls everyone loves into "worldbuilding."
>That's what happened to Katapesh and why /pfg/ has one less campaign now.
How far back do I need to go to find this?

>>51373020
Bill & Ted (Empyreal Lords)
NG
Portfolio: Friendship, music, time, knowledge, entertainment.
Favored weapon: air guitar

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>gm starts new campaign
>the group starts out working for a traveling carnival.
>pretty much part forward scouts when on duty and make extra coin by participating in carnival stuff.
>1 player makes a human fighter
>the rest make various beast races
>tfw the game became one man and his band of muppets

>>51373046
Last thread, 2hu drove the GM into quitting.

Might as well put this up again.

Working on a homebrew ERP campaign for Pathfinder, still working on the concept, looking for players to talk to and help finalize the ideas.

Setting heavily features genital transformation, enhancement, reduction and damage/destruction. Characters don't die in combat in this game, rather they are rendered helpless and lets the victors chose to do various terrible things to them and their tender bits.

If you're interested give me a shout, if you want to see the development thread to understand the setting more, here's the link.

>>>/trash/7371337

>>51372957
>Be excellent to everyone
>Unless it's 2hu, fuck that guy!

You're a disgrace.

I enjoy reading all the butthurt people have whenever someone mentions 2hu is a sperg

>>51373135
>Ohoho, it's so funny all these people getting annoyed at my faggotry!

I don't give a shit about 2hu, you're genuinely just annoying.

>>51373161
being a sperg and being a shit are not mutually inclusive.
for example, witchhunt anon is entirely the latter.

>>51373161
>you're
I also enjoy it when people assume they know someone's identity on 4chan

>>51373165
I didn't say he was a sperg. Just that he was annoying.

>>51373174
You don't need to be witch-hunter to be annoying either.

>>51373165
>>51373177
So is there actually a "witchhunt anon"? Like is there definitive proof it's one person?

>>51373201
I would like to believe it's only one person.

Ok so I'm trying to figure out my first gestalt character. Is there some sort of breakdown to how this works? I tried searching the pfsrd but all I'm seeing is the lantern archon special ability.

I'd also like to ask for advice on a good combo for an int based caster class. Preferrably something PoW and good with polearms.

>>51373209
I ask because out of everyone I know that's had some contact with 2hu, most of them don't, uh, "approve of his conduct", shall we say. Whereas I notice this person that's always very... aggressive in their defense seems to be just one person.

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>>51373224
You have to look for Unearthed Arcana from 3.0 for the rules.

Everything else is up to the DM.

>>51373227
Nah.

2hu is kind of annoying, yes. But when someone brings them up, it's often the same way.

"2hu killed this game."

"Ban 2hu before they kill this game"

"Why haven't you specifically stated that 2hu is banned from your game, they're going to join and ruin everything"

And as someone who has told Witch-hunt to fuck off a couple times, I can guarantee that there is, at the VERY absolute minimum, more than one person telling them to fuck off.

Plus, word is 2hu's had a stalker for fucking ages that followed them from the 4e threads and follows them to any other thread they may post in, regardless of game.

>>51373224
You basically just take the "highest" of the two classes while preserving all class features including spellcasting

highest saves between the two, highest skill points, highest BAB, highest sneak attack, etc

Is wisdom and hit die the only thing to oppose demoralization attempts via intimidate? I have a player with like +20 intimidate who had to go to Frightened status because his foe rolled the required 15 to beat his HD and Wisdom penalty and happened to be a Thug rogue. The player's character had like twice as much intimidation power. The player just accepted it but it didn't sit well with me... Is that just how it is?

>>51373224
Omen Rider Harbinger nets you only 3/4 BAB but you can also add half int to attack and later full int to damage. Plus a spectral horse that eventually gets to fly.
Aegis gives you full BAB and some of the customizations can give you strong defenses and mobility, plus maneuvers.
Living Legend Soulknife can net you full int to attack and damage. Can't into PoW though.
Zweihander Sentinel Warder also fits the bill, but it's not the right class to gestalt with a caster.

>>51373302
I've had a look at a lot of the PoW classes (also admittedly a first) and warder does seem pretty damn good for an int caster with a pointy stick. How screwed am I if I go warder without armor due to wanting to avoid ACP? d12 hd gives me the impression that I'll do just fine as long as I play my character as an int class that happens to be good at poking things rather than some sort of eldritch knight.

>>51373268
You mean, aside from the mod that had a hateboner for 2hu so hard they would ban him on sight based on his opening post pictures?

>>51373342
As I gather, yes.

>>51373300
It's a fear affect. Anything that protects agaisnt fear protects agaisnt intimidate.

>>51373326
>play my character as an int class
You realize this is utter gibberish, right?

>>51373326
I'd suggest going with Dervish Defender Warder (which goes on light/no armor), and asking the DM if he can let you make having both hands free+IUS count as having two weapons for the archetype's features. Otherwise, being a Warder means you'll get hit since the class's main abilities involve making it more convenient for your foes to go against you than your allies.

>>51373351
You realize that your mother's a whore, right?

>>51372957
read the last thread. didnt see where "adding cat people" was demonstrated to be why katapesh died

How would a Merfolk on land deal with extreme temperatures? Intense cold/heat?

>>51373420
There were some claims that they were "super sexy and loved by everyone" too but I didn't see that either. It was a pretty embarrassing piece of fiction though.

>>51373423
Badly. Fish don't sweat.

>>51373423
with climate controlled suits

>>51373439
They also don't have any sort of resistance vs dehydration. They'd find themselves parched very quickly.

>>51373423
>>51373439
>>51373457
>>51373460
How many chambers does a merfolk's heart have?

Just humor me.

>>51373467
2. tube shaped like the letter s

>>51373467
Enough to make your wiener feel good when you insert it.

>>51373479
>2

Then they're fucked.

>>51373467
Almost all vertebrates have a four chambered heart.

>>51373489
(mermaids are like sharks, right?)

>>51373263
So what happens if I take two casting classes? Do I gain twice the spell slots?

>>51373499
yes

>>51373499
You gain the spellcasting abilities of both classes, but the spell lists and spell slots remain separate, though each one benefits from the extra spells a high stat gives them.

>>51373504
Is it considered bad form to do this? I'm honestly just looking for a simpler alternative to trying to cram something "good" without blundering into a faux pas. So maybe a Greed Wizard/Sage sorcerer will keep things simple enough.

PoW seems fun to play with but stacking abilities with a tier 1 caster may get me called out.

>>51373496
I don't know, that's why I asked.

>>51373492
Just birds and mammals, generally.

>>51373527
Not really - you can still only cast one spell per round, so stacking two tier one casters really doesn't make you that much more powerful, only versatile, which a wizard is by default anyways.

My favorite is Psionicists+Wizard, with Wziardry taking all the utility spells and all the damage and assault coming from the psychic side.

>>51373527
As far as I've seen, full casters have been banned in Gestalt games with DSP and other shenanigans. Granted I've only looked into a few pfg sign ups recently.

>>51373531
theyre fish. if not sharks, I'd choose another fish for reference

>>51373527
not really, but you typiclly dont have the stats for it (unless theyre the same casting stat).

typically people take a martial and a caster for better numbers.

it you went sorcerer/oracle you'd be both better and worse than your peers. More options and power, but much more fragile. Very glass cannon.

Paladin/Oracle is an example you sometimes see, though.

>>51373435
How bad was it?

>>51373545
On a 10-point scale where 10 is the worst, I'd give it about a 7. Well above average, but definitely not the worst thing I've ever read. The worst part for me was how casually it described an enormous, conquering army and its ruler.

>>51373537
>>51373541
>>51373544
So less munchkin points for essentially double spell slots and maybe a few compatible bonuses. Seems fair to me.

anybody ever seen a "average gestalt"?

is there a reason its a bad idea?

stack class features as normal gestalt.

half size hd, half bab, half saves, half skillpoints, track fractions.

then add levels together and just give them out 2 at a time.

>>51373591
So what, rather than A 1/2 BAB and full BAB ending up as a Full BAB, they end up as 3/4?

Could see it working.

>>51373545
I didn't see a single bit of "everyone loves them" in there. They were halfling tieflings with hellcat blood and cat attributes because their ancestors fought a bunch of hellcats and the blood got in the water supply.

It's a bit cringey at times with use of old timey quotes, but it wasn't "OH MY GOD SO SEXY HNNNG and only bad, ignorant people dislike them" that witch-hunter anon was saying last thread.

You can read it yourself if you want, last thread is linked and you can ctrl-f worldbuilding to find it instead of having other people bias your opinion.

>>51373607
exactly that.

i figure it would make using conventional encounters easier, as the math isnt all weird.

>>51373631
I can see that working. Although in cases like hit dice it'd probably be better to average them out in some fashion other than just halving the two and adding them together.

Like, 1d6 + 1d10 = 1d8. Things like that. Would have to decide what happens if you combine something like a 1d6 with a 1d8, but in cases like that it's probably no harm to just give them the 1d8.

>>51373659
whats wrong with halving the rolls, or galving the die sizes? it seems more midular that way.

>>51373268

Holy shit, so 2hu IS Touhoufag from the 4e threads? Holy shitto.

His guides were kinda useful.

Can you guys solve this ?

18923 = 3
4568 = 4
888411 = ?

>>51373811
888411 = n, where n is an integer

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>>51373609
>only bad, ignorant people dislike them

But that's literally already the case for tieflings.

Tieflings aren't any more inclined towards evil than others and it really IS only ignorant people that are prejudiced against them.

>>51373591

I've thought of it before, never ran it

>>51373811
(1+8+9)/(2*3)=18/6=3

>>51373811
0?

I assume you just add all the numbers up on each line then the answer is the final ones digit.

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>>51373564
>>51373609
How come /pfg/ is used to high school level writing quality for backstories/settings but when it's 2hu we're talking about, suddenly /pfg/ has the standards of literature PhDs?

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>>51373949

People who shit on 2hu can go fuck themselves, people who defend 2hu can go fuck themselves. Stop bringing up this goddamn drama no one gives a fuck about.

>>51373811
1s digit
1+8+9+2+3=23 mod 20 =3
1s digit + 1
4+5+6+8 =15+8 = 23 mod 20 =3 +1 =4
1s digit +2
8+8+8+4+1+1 = 30 mod 30 = 0 +2 =2

>>51373938
that pattern doesnt hold for the 2nd one.

>>51372957

>Intro post is about Witchhunting 2hu. OP picture is a witch.

Did... did you just prank us?

>>51374037

just a prank bropai

>>51373268

No, dude.

It just looks like that because he's pissed that many of us off. I am the guy who vociferously talks shit about him in gamefinder but I don't really talk about him here.

You just think it's one stalker because we all have the same complaints.

Anyone have any recommendations for adventures that I can splice on to the adventure paths?

What are some published adventures that would go well with something like Kingmaker or Rise of Runelords?

Is there a re-balance of the skills in Pathfinder somewhere?
Paizo went and did some consolidated skills thing, but that is shit.
Combining disable device and sleight of hand into finesse, and climb, swim and jumping into athletics was a good start, but then Paizo went and did what Paizo does and fucked it up.
Any recommendations on where to look or other skill combinations?

>>51374234

Just have "Physical," "Subterfuge," "Knowledge," and "Communication"

>>51374270
Or better yet, "Stuff That Isn't Combat".

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>>51374282
Like Background skills?

>http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/unchained/skillsAndOptions/backgroundSkills.html

>>51374303

The opposite. A single "Background" skill for EVERYTHING.

>>51374211
Why are you poisoning Gamefinder with saltiness, witch hunter?

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>>51374312
I've been awake since 2:00 yesterday afternoon, so that doesn't make much sense to me.

Do you mean that every character of the same level has the can get the same result on a Perception check as a Use Magic Device check?

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>>51374368
> has the can get

>>51374326
The guy is a sociopath or a psycopath. He is just targeting the weakest ones for his own sick entertainment.

>>51374368
I think he means, you put all the skills you would have as per your background as "background skill" and you only need to put points in that and say "yeah I totally know about how to sail, my dad was a fisherman" or "Oh you need to decipher the runes on the basket? I did some basketweaving in the past I should be able to work out what it says"

I intend to play a gestalt of Artisan/Architect.
Y/N?

>>51374326

He's killed multiple games I have played/been interested in.

Sorry, but calling out poison doesn't make me toxic.

He is not being bullied: he keeps running in, doing the same thing he's been doing for years despite being mostly hated universally.

>>51374660
How do you know he killed them?
Isn't this the same as "lololol 2hu killed Katapesh game"?

>>51373300
Intimidate can't do more than apply shaken in most cases.

>>51374660
keep up the baseless accusations in hoping someone will believe them witch-hunter anon

>>51374821
They're not baseless. We already saw 2hu kill the Katapesh Legacy of Fire Roll20 first hand.

>>51374774
>Isn't this the same as "lololol 2hu killed Katapesh game"?

Curious how the game died a mere day (or was it hours) after 2hu brought his concentrated autism into it.

>>51373811
Could be the number of closed loops in each number as written. 4, 6, and 9 each have one. 8 has 2.

The answer would be 7.

Probably. On a shitty phone app and can't see the number while I type this.

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>>51370118 here, found out the DM is not allowing Avowed.

Should I go full "fuck my shit up, senpai" and make a Warlord || Fighter (Two-Handed) focused on Scarlet Throne Style?

>>51374774
>>51374821

I know he killed them because I generally get on well with people and the GMs told me.

Hell, the pathfinder game I started last week had to quietly abandon its recruitment discord when 2hu showed up.

>>51374911

A-Also, where could I find the Contender archetype?

>>51374916
Seeing as I am totally not 2hu, can you tell me more about your game?

(not 2hu, totally)

>>51374911
No, overhand chop doesn't work with maneuvers.

Be a savage barbarian brutal slayer stalker.

>>51374934

It's probably the game you're thinking about.

If you weren't contacted privately and given a steam and roll20 invite, you didn't make the cut.

>>51374965
The only game I've had contact with here for, like, the last six months is the Katapesh one.

Oh well, if people are already picked it doesn't matter.

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>>51374916
>Hell, the pathfinder game I started last week had to quietly abandon its recruitment discord when 2hu showed up.
Lemme guess, you pulled the "stop talking to the guy and abandon ship to another channel/server" shit?

That's some of the most cowardly, pussy-ass shit you can do on the internet. If you want to boot someone out, tell it to his face, don't slink away quietly and leave him hanging.

Fuck you.

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>>51374965
>>51374987
Fucking called it.

God damn.

If you want to boot someone, tell it to their face, DON'T just stop responding to them.

Jesus christ, for a guy who shits all over an autistic kid, you sure lack basic social decency.

>>51374987

Yeah, I agree. And I told the GM as much.

But they did what they did, and I'm in, and I have very little empathy for autists.

>>51374987
>>51374995

Should probably clarify: I am not the GM. When it became clear how the GM was acting, I told them to be considerate of others.

They weren't. I am honestly fine with this because I am incredibly choosy and the group has not turned on me yet.

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>>51374937
>>51374911

Okay okay, hear me out with this spread I'm planning to do.

One side of the gestalt is Warder (ZweiSent) 6 / Landsknecht 4

The other side of the gestalt is Fighter (Weapon Master) 6 / Duelist 4

Does this sound like the best use of my classes?

>>51375001
>I have very little empathy for autists
Then why are you witch hunting in /pfg/?

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Y'know what, fuck it. While I'm here, I'm gonna put this shit to bed.

No, 2hu didn't kill the game. He was moving faster than I'd have liked in his addition of that particular thread, but had I not started to get bad news, I would have just contacted him and asked him to back it down, and we'd have talked our way to some middle ground. Hell, with that kind of initiative, I might have actually enjoyed encouraging people to make additions to the lore, seeing as I'd already nuked Katapesh as it was in favor of orientalist nostalgia and shit.

But tl;dr, it wasn't the dude's fault. It's nobody's fault.

>>51375108
>He was moving faster than I'd have liked in his addition of that particular thread
So he went out of line and shit all over your lovingly crafted setting with loli catgirl bullshit, got it.

>Thrallherd goes partying after taking his 1st level
>Doesn't know he's a thrallherd
>Has a bunch of frat boys and some strippers staying with him partying
>Asks them if they know where any fancy mirrors are for scrying
>Lose 5 bros rip bros
>Goes partying and recovers his bros and hoes
>We now call him the Broherd
>They are connected through the Broforce
>Get a new guy
>New guy suggests they all be wearing Polo Tunics
>Now canon
>Searching for a crippled black dragon(because our succubus is a binder and used focalor)
>With the bros and our new guy we attempt fishing for dragons
>Wait this is rope.gif
>One dead bro
>Rip skyler
>Eventually after sending frats to wade out in the water and make noises we decide instead ot have the succubus sing
>Dragon shows up
>Gets hit with ray of exhaustion and moonbolt
>I hit it again with escalating enfeeblement only has 2 str now
>New guy is solely a paladin the poor bastard
>Only manages to get 1 hit on the thing
>Succubus manages to entangle it
>I cast crushing sphere and it takes 102d6 nonlethal damage because it cant escape the sphere of force and its reflex is now megagarbo
>Our ur-priest begins chopping it up alive and plans to use it to breed black and green dragons together
>It now has no legs and its mouth is mostly sewn shut with no teeth inside
>Is going to have his bros attempt to jerk off the dragon to collect dragon semen
>That feel when hazing ritual

Which is better, inflicting disease or draining levels?

>>51375157

Draining levels.

>>51375108
What was your initial reaction to the autistic minmaxing questions? He was obviously trying to shit all over your game with minmaxing.

What was your initial reaction to the autistic "worldbuilding"? He was obviously trying to shit all over your setting with weeb bullshit.

>>51375168
>>51375139

Same fag got it.

>>51375157
100% draining levels

then you can infect them with horrible disease

>2hu bullshit
Jesus christ this whole thing makes me instantly wary of pfg games. Does this guy get accepted 100% of the time? His characters are always those overly large cropped anime pics with animal ears right?

>>51375168

Other witch hunter: in the game I was in, he demanded a list of banned materials when the GM basically said "no 3pp, if it looks busted, I'm not allowing it", and whined because 20 point buy is "incredibly low powered and restricting"

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>>51375139
Motherfucker, I ripped off and repackaged like 80-90% of that "lovingly crafted" shit from out of various Al-Qadim books.

Fuck, I've done worse than add catgirls to game settings. I've made a literal norse berserker for a political intrigue campaign.

>>51375168
I got a little worried, I'll admit, when I saw the question about custom weapons come right after the one about Broken Blade. But if I ever thought it was that much of a problem I could have just not picked him.

>>51375265

Its just one fucker being a fucker about one guy. I wouldn't sweat it. too much. he's gonna twist everything you say to fit his agenda of hating 2hu

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>ahh, what a beautiful morning, let's check /pfg/!
>It's another "let's obsess over tnis one autist instead of anything we can at least remotely pretend is productive" episode

God damnit, you guys.

>>51375236
He has yet to get into any game he's applied to. The thread shits itself whenever he shows interest in a game. It's highly vocal, pointless shitposting about the exact same shit over and over.

>>51375246
2hu doesn't seem like the type to complain about 20 point buy, he's used 20 point buy in posted builds before.

Calling bullshit on that one.

best and fun druid archetypes please

>>51375265
He still disrespected your setting by adding shit to it unsolicited. That was a bad move and any GM worth his salt would've booted out 2hu on the spot.

Why didn't you kick out 2hu for trying to break the game? He was asking so many questions to break the fucking game.

>>51375307
Just to be clear, he's the guy whose backstory is almost always involves characters that are some sort of perfect princess that everyone loves right?

>>51375307
This should be hu2 general if this becomes a tendency.

>>51375317
He's not even wrong. Giving 20 PB just means SAD casters are the only ones who benefit, while MAD classes get fucked hard.

Asking for more than 20 PB is only so other players can have better characters to begin with.

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>>51375307
Like we told you last time, witch hunter, 2hu got into the original Fluffy Tails game (the one waaaaaay back with the Japanese setting) and the new Way of the Wicked game. As player.

And if you've been lurking the IRC you'll see 2hu got into a third campaign, something about serial killers with only 1 GM and 2 PCs.

It's just that none of those were high profile games.

>>51375296

There's at least two of us here.

2hu defense squad get out. We know it's more of you flip autists.

>>51375352
Powergaming autist detected.

>>51375357
Still looks like one guy to me. Seeing as this is an anonymous image board you cant prove it isnt.

Unless you don a secure tripcode.

>>51375338

Yes.

Does he put out, though?

I may be in a game with him. I wanna know if I can get a piece of that.

>>51375355
>thinking I'm witch hunter

Motherfucker I'm bitching abiut the witchhunting, I just genuinely did not know of any /RECENT/, high-profile shit that 2hu's gotten into. /pfg/ bitches so much that I just skip over it most of the time.

>>51375376
>secure tripcode
showing a bit of newfag here, but can't you just use a dozen secure tripcodes?

>>51375355
>Something about serial killers with only 1 GM and 2 PCs.
Holy fuck is that the one where two PCs were looking for a GM to run their neutral evil game? Because if it is, I got to play with those aspies and boy did they ruin the game we were playing.

>>51375068

G-guys, is this bueno?

>>51375427
Storytime?

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So, In the interest of Unfucking this conversation.


What would you say are essentials of Dungeon design?

>>51375331
>unsolicited
>GM himself REQUESTED players add to the lore

laughing_anime_girls.jpg

>>51375434
Know how to spread your encounters, know how to make it seem full without just turning it into a veritable orgy of encounters, know how to move around encounters if the PCs fuck up and know how to make it just the right size for what you are looking for.

>>51375432
Not much of a point to duelist when swashbuckler is a class.

>>51375468
I mean, if the guy wants unarmored Int-to-AC, Duelist will do the trick? It's not like swashbuckler has Canny Defense.

>>51375427
Tell us more so we can confirm it's 2hu.

>>51375434
>Multiple valid paths to the end goal
>A few encounters that aren't combat-related
>Some interesting monster ideas beyond "mooks", "mini-boss", and "ambush predator"
>This is the one GMs fuck up most often: Puzzles that the players can have some reasonable chance at solving without reading your mind

Seriously, I've had like 3 GMs try to build puzzles (and, god help us, puzzle-based dungeons), but they always rely on visual cues that can't be communicated accurately due to the fact that they're all explained through dialogue and narration.

>>51375441
GM wanted LORE, not "loli catgirls SO SEXY EVERYONE LOVES THEM" bullshit.

Isn't that right, Katapesh GM?

>>51375468

Swashbuckler is not actually that much of an improvement, and Fighter gives him an abundance of feats that will really emphasize his fighting skill.

>>51375441
GM said, and I am quoting here:
>If you’d rather use some bit of lore or geography from Paizo’s version of Katapesh, do so. I fully expect players to exercise a modicum of editing power over the setting. That said, unless otherwise noted, the campaign will treat everything presented here as canon.

>a modicum of editing power
>modicum
>very small amount
That implies more subtlety than 2hu is capable of. Also, the GM is referring to adding Paizo content back in, and puts his own revised version first. 2hu rewrote an assassin order into a harem, not only blasting away the mystique and storytelling potential of the organization he was raping, but then piling on a shitton of anime bullshit.

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>>51375561
You know that the GM's setting document already had the all female assassin harem, right?

You DID read that page, right?

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>>51375500
>>51375561
>>51375441
Seriously, find some new talking points. There's plenty of actually pathfinder-related shit to argue about.
*cough*HeraldoftheIvoryLabyrinth*cough*

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Why is the Magus iconic so shit, and is there anything redeemable about this piece of trash?

>>51375433
>>51375486

Basically there was this "girl" gm who attention whored his low profile homebrew campaign for a couple of months, fishing for compliments and encouraging more applicants by hyping up how good """her""" game was going to be. Anyway, I got into the game after jumping through hoops being made to create accounts for all sorts of communication shit that I don't normally use. 2 weeks before the game a skype group gets set up and more hype is generated within the chosen playerbase.

One session gets played (more of a session 0 to be honest) and GM fails to show up with no notice for one session and shows up later on with no reason nor apology for his missed game. Said GM announces in his @3@ 6_6 emoji filled sentences that next game would be moved to the following week only for GM to once again fail to show up and go "T_T I can't keep the game up somethingsomething life is hard >_<" before leaving the skype group. Turns out that fagballs is all talk and no show.

To my misfortune I run into the very same GM now applying as a player for some middle east setting game with ""her"" pal some other girl player. Basically their PCs were special snowflake as fuck ("white" characters where everyone was supposed to be an ethnic, fucking cuck GM actually changed the rules for their sake) and constantly pulled the GM's attention to their special snowflake moments (tell me how well I painted that landscape based on my painting roll).

Anyway, the game got shittier and shittier as they both flirted with the GM filling my skype with like 300 new messages every day due the unfortunate fact that I had to be part of the (other) skype group chat. Anyway, this faggot apparently tries to take it to the next level by first replacing his anime profile pic with a prune nosed goblin hoping that xhe "passes" well enough to deceive anyone. And let me tell you, no one will ever get deceived by xhe's mongol features -

>>51375612

He's evil and edgy!

>>51375612
You could paralyze him and repurpose his abs as a cheese grinder?

>>51375561
GM's posts are not that far above you. How can you lie so blatantly with a straight face and expect others to take you seriously? Like, dude, you are sick. So sick with hatred that you will twist ANYTHING to support your points. There is no point in talking to you, I guess.

>>51375427
I am 2hu's coplayer from that serial killers game and no, the GM came out with the initiative. We are both NE though.

>>51375595
Okay, to be fair, GM did imply that there was a connection between a Caliph and that one assassin order. But again, the key term is "imply".

>The Caliph...is rumored to have several members as concubines
>some even say one of his wives is a member
>this has been denied repeatedly

None of this definitively states anything. The GM had a group of all-female assassins, yes, but that same paragraph implies there are others. If it meant that much to 2hu, he could have written his own new faction and asked the GM to include it. But instead, he took something that could have been built up and used creatively and removed all its charm.

>>51375651
GM himself said that touhou went too far.

>>51375638
- holy shit, it was so disgusting that I actually dreaded seeing its face pop up and nauseate me with his "girl" face. Anyway, someone commented on this (in a nice way) and he came out as a trans (wow! no way?!). Drama happened, and even the power of internet vagina could keep the GM motivated and the game eventually collapsed.

1 week later, he and his friend were once again on the market for a game this time as ultra edgy thieves, waiting for the next poor sap to fall prey to their tricks.

Jesus christ that face still sickens me when I remember it, you'd think that goblins didnt exist in the 3d world but I guess you would be wrong.

>>51375612
Well he used to be a PrC Iconic, so eh. Also, he's apparently more likable than Alain, so there is that.

>>51375669
Katapesh GM, what did you think of the whole assassin harem thing?

Let's set the record straight here.

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>>51375681
This guy has it. The GM said 2hu went too far and should've shut the fuck up.

Official word from the GM is that 2hu was a shitter.

>>51375612
He is something to point at when the GM says low cha = ugly. The females in the game literally the most attractive of all male iconics despite his 10 cha.

>>51375612
Seltyiel was, as far as I'm aware, originally designed as basically a fanfiction character designed with Pathfinder rules. I'm not sure if it's true or not, but I've been told that a dev designed him as basically what he wants in a man. It sounds fishy, but this is Paizo we're talking about, so it's possible.

tl;dr, no. He's literally a fetish piece of shit designed for the sake of edge

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>>51375723
[citation needed]

>>51375739
It always amuses me when /pfg/ whines about fetish characters.

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Friendly reminder that we now have direct Katapesh GM confirmation of 2hu going too far and ruining the game >>51375108

>>51375708
Eh, it was like a 6.5/10, maybe 6.8, tops. Needed a good deal of workshopping. Probably would have had half its original content cut or modified to fit with stuff I was intending to keep secret.

The tiefling halflings thing was more like a 5/10, but that's a matter of taste. Ironically, it actually could have probably been woven into the lore with less difficulty.

>>51375681
He also said that it was not that big of a deal and he would just PM 2hu and talk it over to find some middle ground. Not "OMG RUINED AND SHITTED ON FOREVER WOE IS US."

It is all right here: >>51375108

>>51375669
As I was writing this 2hu contacted me and told me to rely that they did ask the GM about that assassin harem. The GM confirmed that they were Wrathful Winds and agreed to co-opt them into one of the martial traditions. They would post this themselves but they have connection problems. If you don't believe this then whatever.

>>51375800
Even though the catlings had a massive army, were directly responsible for saving the life of the mohammed figure like a dozen times, and were personally blessed by him?

>>51375810
I'm not disagreeing with you that omg shitted on and ruined forever is too far, but I also think you need to look again at the post you chose to quote above all others.

>>51375723
So... D1,A2,C3,B4,E5 and I guess C really did win the Russian prize?

... Also who the fuck names their kid Ditheringspoon...

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>>51375800
6.5/10 and 5/10?

Those are failing grades where I come from.

Good to know 2hu can't write for shit.

>>51375795
>But tl;dr, it wasn't the dude's fault. It's nobody's fault.

>>51375846
I imagine those are surnames.

Ditheringspoon sounds entirely plausible as some sort of super posh British name,

>>51375812
"Less difficulty". Not as they were.
That sort of thing would have probably been played off as being really hazy as to whether it was myth or not. Whether it actually was...yeah, that one probably would be a busted myth.

>>51373342
Probably still him but no longer a mod?

>>51375850
To be fair, I am not an unbiased judge.

>>51375863
Seems reasonable enough, I can dig it.

Sorry your life went south and that people are using you in this stupid touhou drama.

>>51375812
The catlings were one of many armies.

Did you read it?

>>51375958
Yes?

>>51375795
Why is Tharja so cute?

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>>51375800
>>51375850
>>51375863
So now we've got confirmation that 2hu can't write for shit FROM THE GM HIMSELF.

Now we know 2hu should be banned from all future /pfg/ games, even his "worldbuilding" is just 5-6.5/10, failing grades.

>>51375793
You say that like /pfg/ is some conglomerate entity.

Personally (And I'm the person you're responding to) I come here to discuss mechanics and get previews of books coming out. I don't care one way or the other about fetish characters as long as people keep it from impacting game flow.Seltyiel seems like the sort of fetish character that would in fact cause problems for a group, so I dislike him.

>>51375908
It's cool, and thankfully not too terribly bad. Just the sort of fuckery that's going to eat up enough time that between it and other obligations, I can't keep prepping well enough to run a good game as opposed to just kind of sleepwalking through it and running a shitty one.

>>51375978
can we ban you too?

>>51373123
But fuck 2hu

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>>51375992
Thanks again, Katapesh DM! Now we have the GM testimonial we need to prove that 2hu can't write for shit and his "worldbuilding" is bollocks.

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Ever play some one gay /pfg/? Or at least flamboyant?

>>51375981
Sorry, I didn't mean for it to come across as 'hurr /pfg/ is a massive hivemind rampant with hypocrisy' or anything like that.

I guess I could have phrased it as 'it amuses me when people playing pathfinder complain about fetish characters' just as well.

>>51376021
>>51375978
This is some poe's law tier shit, isn't it?

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Somebody should nuke this thread, really. And ban witchunter again. Maybe that would be enough to move away from stupid drama.

>>51376045
Fair. and yeah, given the memeshow that surrounded RotJR, I'm in something of the same position.

>>51375734

That's because he was designed by a gay guy.

>>51376028

Does Flamboyantly gay work if your female?

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>>51376133
Yes!

>>51376028
Paladin of Kurgess who married a male half-orc barbarian not because of sexual attraction or for having a fetish for half-orcs, but because he wanted to have a spotter and a wrestling partner for every day of his life.

>>51372957
Fuck off witch hunter
You aren't wanted, you're act like fag, and your shit's all retarded

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>Try to make a paladin transformed into Iomedae's visage
>All the art of her kind of sucks, also uses platemail
Anyone got cute paladin girls in light armor with big swords?

>>51376028
If /pfg/'s shipping algorithms are correct, I'm about to be.

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>>51376066
Seconding.

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>>51376066
I agree

Just submitted my app to Sleeping Goddess. Who do you guys think has the best chance of getting into this game?

>>51376066

The problem is that there are at least 4 of us, if not more.

We're not a unified person.

I think 2hu is terrible, but that he would fit into lewd games which are already terrible, except that these games let him optimize and worldbuild when he shouldn't be let near either.

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>>51376066
Do you really think that'll work, Almost-Satan?

Because I don't see anything saving us now.

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>>51376220

Cute?

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>>51376028
I played Adon, while my friend played Samson.
It was hilarious, but the GM gave up and killed the campaign at the end of the session, saying he'd never be able to go back to being serious anymore.

>>51376315

2manyswords

>>51376315
Cute because it's for WotRaunchy

I'd also accept lewd and wanton-whore

>>51376343

Delet the swords then.

There is no "exact representation" of character.

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>>51376348

Ask the Drawfriends to get her hair colored black and you've got a perfect Iomedae with this.

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>>51376220
It's not quite light armor, but it's definitely not plate.

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>>51376307
>The problem is that there are at least 4 of us, if not more.
I highly doubt that the person who spends EVERY SINGLE THREAD shit talking 2hu without any form of proper segue or provocation is multiple people
Further, I highly doubt he isn't the same person as the DHB witch hunter who did THER EXACT SAME FUCKING THING USING THE EXACT SAME POST STYLE, METHODS, AND WORDING.

HOLY SHIT WITCH HUNTER IS CANCER!

>>51376379
>Defending a shitter this badly

>>51376307
>>51376379
We've already got testimonial from the GM that the "optimization" is some seriously annoying shit and the worldbuilding is 5-6.5/10 at best, a failing grade.

2hu doesn't deserve to be near /pfg/ games.

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>>51376220

Magnificent enough for you?

>>51376389
>not wanting to listen to someone bitch about 2hu is the same as defending 2hu

k

>>51376393
2hu doesn't optimize PF very well because he doesn't actually understand about half of the rules.

>>51376401
Too magnificent for my hardened mercenary

It's Joan Giovanna in WotR if you want to just read the app, if you're feeling like this is 20 questions

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>>51376389
No one is defending 2hu you retard witch hunter.
They're just saying that witch hunter like you are just as much trash you festering heap of cancer and feces

>>51376393
We've also had historical precedent for witch-hunter being banned, and continuous witch hunts and shitposting being a bannable offense

witch hunter doesn't deserve to be near /pfg/ period

>>51376413
It's true, he's awful at building strong characters.
He's an optimizer who fucking sucks at optimizing.

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>>51376307
Just let it die. Or at least don't twist every single little thing to support your cause, don't drag unwilling people like EhnJolly or that GM into this, don't wave your "burn 2hu" flag on every occasion, don't shit up r20 threads. This is just as tiring, annoying and autistic as anything 2hu does. If anything, some DM should just grow a pair and say "no dude, you are not welcomed here" or "sorry, no breaking my game" instead of wishy-washy "sure, just be reasonable." Guess what, that is not how 2hu operates in chargen.

But whatever, I am not going to drag it furhter.

>>51376372
It must be difficult for her to get the gambeson laced up each day.

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>>51376442
The GM is the one agreeing with us that 2hu can't write for shit.

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>Complaining about a nigga who hasn't been on /pfg/ since SoP first dropped
You all just played yourselves

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>>51376220

>Black haired
>Busty
>Actually a guy
>Light armor

I've gotchu, senpai.

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>>51376496
He also agreed that he may be biased and we had some people who said it was not that good but also not especially bad. But of course you are going to ignore that.

>>51376393
>5-6.5/10 at best, a failing grade
That's a passing grade where I am from. Barely but passable. Check mate.

>said I am not going to drag it further
>immediately respond
>god fucking dammit

>>51376496
And this is when i hit the report and ignore retoric.

>>51376558
Nigga, if you can't hit 7/10, you don't deserve to be writing anything, let alone in a /pfg/ game where you're competing with others.

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>>51376577
Sure, because you should "deserve" to write backstories for certified /pfg/ games. Those are very elite, you know. Top notch stuff.

>>51376623
Nigga, 7/10 is the average for even a Roll20 rando who strolls into a /pfg/ game.

>>51376647
I mean, statistically speaking, 5/10 would be the average. You're just spouting shit out your ass. 7/10 would be a modern writer, 8/10 would be a published author, 9/10 would be a best-seller and 10/10 would be some Shakespeare shit.

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>>51376647

>>51376694
Just to expand, not the people I expect to be playing lewd games on the internet with. Get the stick out your ass.

>>51376434

Implying that I'm the only poster on this topic

>>51376694
So 2hu's at 5/10, 3 notches below published author?

That's pretty bad.

What's the rule of thumb for AC per level?

10+level or something?

>>51376724
Average AC at level 1 for a martial character is in the range of 17. It scales up at roughly 1 per 2 levels, unless they focus on it. If they focus on it, it should be 10+double their level, roughly.

>>51376694
>Shakespeare

Wasn't he not actually that good a writer, and only considered "classic" because he got popular a long time ago and everyone bought into the "everyone was classy back then" meme?

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I have arrived, and now it is time I have performed my charge.

In fealty of Moot, our cucked lord and in fealty of his dildo throne. I declare exterminatus on the 4chan board of /tg/.

I hereby sign the deathwarrant of an entire thread and consign over 2hundred posts to oblivion.

May administrator justice account in all balance. Chinese Moot protects

>>51376724
10+lvl gives you a 50% evasion chance.

>>51376718
Yes you are. Witch hunter has been caught samefagging before in the past, it is not beneath him

>>51376752

Shakespeare was legendary even in his own time, just like John Milton.

>>51375795
No, all we have confirmation of is that you can't read.

Fuck off and die you pathetic cunt. You did this with Forrest too.

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>>51376220
Any of these work? http://imgur.com/a/tVXzM

>>51376754

What's that fox-furry even doing in that picture? Was he added simply because he's the author's fursona?

Because, just, imagine if the fox was removed. How will the art change?

>>51375157
Draining levels, since way fewer things are immune to that then things that are immune to disease. In addition, Level Drain happens immediately whereas diseases usually have an incubation period.

>>51376754
>>51376773
I think I actually would prefer Augunus Degeneracy over the current arguing

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>>51376754
>>51376773

OH GOD BUCKLE IN! This is gonna be good!

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Are there any character "types" you frequently play? Any that you especially like?

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Rules to play a toddler, this is gonna be good.

>>51376773

I will bet you $50 dollarydoos that the "Aging Effects" include an overly detailed explanation on puberty.

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>>51376778
>http://imgur.com/a/tVXzM
I might use this one, but I'd have to get the hair recolored

>>51376021
>>51375978
So let's run down the list.
You can't read.
You can't get original images, instead stealing them from other, better posters.
You can't actually say anything you haven't vomited out before.
You, yes YOU! You've had your accounts banned twice on Roll20 because of your shitposting.
And you've gotten banned HERE before too.

Hey, everyone, here's an idea, how about we start reporting him, hm? Clearly he's worthless and has no life, maybe he'll kill himself if he's always banned!

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>>51376812

I always play martials, and I always tend to play swordsmen or spearmen.

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>>51376830
>>51376778
I'm using that one in Sleeping Goddess. It's a really nice picture. There is also one done on a perfectly white background. I'll provide it now, in case you want that one.

>>51376801
ITS PEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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>>51376812
I tend to go for characters that are "human", but with one or two things making them inhuman. Half-orcs, human necropolitans, tieflings, that sort of thing.

Besides that, I have a lot of trouble wrapping my head around evil characters, so I tend to play hard good characters; Paladin is one of my favorite classes.

>>51376853
Yeah, I stumbled across it, thought I saw it somewhere recently, and then just remembered. It really is a nice picture though.
>>51376812
Martials. Give me my monks.

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>>51376812
Knights and more knights.

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>>51376873
>Martials. Give me my monks.

Cute monks?

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>>51376842
This

>>51375612
He was originally the iconic for Eldritch Knight, and when asked about who is "the most attractive iconic" at a convention, one of the developers stuttered for a bit before admitting that he thought Seltyiel was the most attractive.

>>51376845
>>51376859
>>51376878
>>51376873
And this is the reason why people shill DSP, here. Because Paizo's martials suck shit, but we all want a proper knight.

>>51376906

i want that dragon toy

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>>51376906

>Russet colored fox
>Has head of jet black hair

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>>51376926
And Agunas wants that fox.

Fun fact: Witch hunter is so butthurt that he couldn't ERP with 2hu that he spends days of real-life time shitposting about 2hu.

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>>51376812
I am compelled to always have as many skill points as I can and to be the BEST AT SKILLS, even though I logically know I should just use spells for that stuff and that skills are usually pretty meh. Investigator is arguably my favorite class because of that, followed by Vigilante. I also have an enormous boner for the halfcasters and an obsession with companion creatures, so shit like the Caster Vigilantes, Inquisitor, and Hunter are all things I want to try sometime.

>game I played an investigator in is basically dead
Kill me

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appchan plz gib timer

Fun fact: Witch hunter's own social skills are so poor that he can't tell he is far more bothersome than a literal autist. He also cannot tell when his blantantly obvious intellectual dishonesty is showing, nor can he help himself from posting about the object of his desire.

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>>51376997
I think my favorite "Caster With Companion" is probably the Winged Marauder Alchemist. I just wish it wasn't restricted to goblins.

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>>51376878
Hell yeah, knight me up.
>>51376888
Sorta, mostly stick to males though. http://i.imgur.com/1hUhTzF.jpg

>>51377006
Okay, that's enough anon. Becareful you don't become just as bad as witch hunter
Afterall, When you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares also back

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>>51377102
YOU HAVE TO STOP THIS

IT'S NOT TOO LATE

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>>51377132
This is the future the thread chose, it is my charge to complete this task.

>>51377102

Why are there SO MANY FOXES IN THIS UNIVERSE.

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>>51377156
Your fox posting helped create this universe. You did this.

>>51377144
that's one swole toddler, do all dwarf parents make their kids lift?

>>51377185

OH GOD DEMON BABY!

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>>51377132
It is.

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Will we ever get another book of Unchained stuff from Paizo?

>>51377208
Alright, admittedly that's a cute half-elf.

>>51377208
... Why is the half elf dressed like she wants to be in Grease?

>>51377233

Why would a half-elf want to be the target of a wizard's spell?

>>51377214
Didn't they explicitly state that Unchained was ideas that were way out there and that they wouldn't normally go with?

>>51376842

I can't tell if you think I'm the other guy or you think he's me.

>>51376943

No, I'm the one who wants to ERP with 2hu. I didn't even know about this witch hunter name until today.

>>51377250
I genuinely don't know, I just want whoever did the Vigilante to go back and redo some of their other classes

>>51377264
Others may hate 2hu, but there's only one Witch Hunter Anon. He always posts "cute" or "funny" images, he always vomits forth the same unintelligent dribble, he always says the exact opposite of what official sources (Gareth, Jolly, Forrest, and now Katapesh DM) are trying to say, and has spent the last decade obsessing over 2hu.

You're almost certainly not him, and I would suggest that you don't become him; Witch Hunter Anon is pathetic, worthless, and vile trash that needs to kill himself already for being more disruptive than anyone else that's ever posted in this thread.

>>51377296

THERE IT IS

>>51377296
FUCK

>>51377296

I think he's very cute ^_^

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I'm building a 13th level wizard from a desert country who uses wall of stone and stoneshape and the like to create fortresses whenever the party stays in one place. Anyone ever built anything like this?

>>51377374
what a beautiful wayang

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>>51377399
I expected something more disturbing.

>>51377296
>cha 26
I would say that's at least 30.

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>>51377453
It's page 28, but I skipped the inside cover and ogl stuff.

Anyone ever played a white-haired witch before? Just got started and so far I'm having fun with the concept.

ATTENTION

Your task is done for now, Jason Buhlman. You have done well to purge this thread, and now you may rest.

>>51377540
>>51377540
>>51377540

Come, everyone, to the new thread. Let this thread wither and die like it deserves.