/hhg/ aka Horus Heresy General XXVIII

How long can FW continue to release knight heads and ignore HH?

>People complaining about Magnus not being released yet and papa Sang being too far out
>Meanwhile Dorn and Alpharius models are not even announced

>>51335997
Yeah cause its not like TSons fans have had to wait for anything yet is it?

;^)

>>51335990
Knight heads are very important part of HH anon, FW cannot and will not ignore them.

>>51335990
As long as they like really.
They make what they want to make, as far as I'm aware.

>>51335997
THIS! I want an Alpharius in full regalia to add to my collection (I've got plenty of other Alpharius).

>>51336011
Guess FW thinks all we crave is more Imprerial Knight heads

>>51335990
>>51336022
>>51336037
>mfw they're not even good knight heads like the plastic ones and the Cerastus ones

for the n00bs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BdHzsc_5ac

There are a bunch of these 3-5 minute 30k/40k tactics tips.

>>51336061
V and VI are alright.
The others are terrible though.

>>51336069

I remember faggots trying to claim crunch tank shocks where the unit was destroyed even without a leadership check due to nowhere to run wasn't a thing when GW first started doing facebook FAQs.

>>51336152
Tank Shocks should force dangerous terrain checks on those that they run over/force to fall back.
Also, if you pass the leadership, you don't move.

>>51336176

You're not allowed to surf enemy tanks.

>>51336176
>pass tank shock check
>hop on top of the fucker that was trying to run you over
>its occupant was already on top of the tank because that's what most people do to show which squad is in which transport
>commence train-top sword fight

>>51336187
Awesome, a new game sub-phase just like dogfighting.

Any of the BL-fags that visit this thread got/read the new Russ/Magnus books? Anything new in them?

>>51336208
Only read a summary, there's some mention of Dark Angels, I suppose there's not a lot of new stuff as the incident's already been familiar.

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Got me 2 games of ZM in with my Death Guard today, a win and a loss. Sniper vets are pretty much the sex and contemptor cortus talons are cheap and I5 or Rage on the charge is sexier. Who want some pics?

>>51336256

Why are ZM players almost always DG?

>>51336208
The LE Russ book scan was posted awhile ago. Magnus looks like it's still on pre-order.

Russ book deals with the cause of the fued with the Lion and the fight itself.

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So I have just finished Praetorian of Dorn, and I have major question. Also major spoiler ahead.

Who the fuck did Dorn kill in the ending? For most of the book, we were led to believe that Alpha Legion could truly swap legionaries with Alpharius. But in the end all that stuff about Omegon feeling alone would suggest that Alpharius was really killed (also light show when he died, a bit like Ferrus).
Also in conjecture with Eskrador happening, where Alpharius (or maybe Omegon, or maybe legionnaire posing as him) could this mean that Alpha Legion is really without primarch at all?

>>51336288
Alpharius is dead

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>>51336269
DG is just my latest army anon, done DA, NL, WE and have a shitload of dark mech on the burn as well.

Delegatus on 1 wound managed to break and run down a vet sqaud for a laugh though.

>>51336288
Alpharius is dead. Omegon is alive and he is the AL Primarch. They dealt with the swapping of primach and marines earlier in the book. The whole bit about Dorn knowing who is who, it was pretty much laid out that Dorn could not be fooled by the AL shell game.

>>51336177
You are.
>If an enemy unit other than another vehicle is reached, that enemy unit must take a morale check [...] If the test is passed, the unit simply lets the Tank move through as if it were not there.

>>51336397
>move through
>through

You retarded?

>>51336439
?

>>51336439
>Also, if you pass the leadership, you don't move.
Where was I wrong?

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>>51336450
The surfing part.

Moving through is not surfing.

>>51336312
>>51336342
delete this.

Alpharius is alive. ALIVE!

>Magnus is dead.’ ‘No, Jaghatai, he is not. You know he is not. You met him yourself, on Prospero.’ ‘I met a shade.’ ‘One of many. The Crimson King has been broken, shattered like a mirror thrown in anger. It began when he breached the wards on Terra, and it was ended by the Wolf’s wrath. No, Jaghatai, he is not dead. He has become legion.’

>Oh, there were crimes.’ The giant leaned forward, closer, keeping the flame cupped tight. ‘I tried to cure you. I reached out, and I was answered. And then I had to warn my Father…’ His lone eye suddenly lit up, and the flame flickered into greater life. ‘But that broke me. I am not what you think.’ ‘You are the Crimson King.’ ‘No. He is gone. All that remain are… aspects.’

>'We are on Terra,’ said the giant, lifting his chin. ‘That is where I came, to warn my Father. The rest of me went back, but I remained.'

Why does Black Library enjoy removing the tragedy and drama from the important events of the Horus Heresy? These quotes are from The Last Son of Prospero which I just got around to reading. And it the end it means Magnus duel against Russ, perhaps THE seminal moment for the two Primarchs, actually has Magnus as already 'sharded' and weakened. Doesnt that make the event so much more epic right guys? R..right?

>>51336487
Well >>51336177 was the first and only person to mention surfing tonks, who isn't me.
And if you use your imagination, a tank moving through a unit and the unit surfing the tank are the same thing.

>>51336520
>It began when he breached the wards on Terra, and it was ended by the Wolf’s wrath
It's pretty clearly talking about how the chain of events that lead to Magnus' sharding started with the Breaching of the Wards.

>>51336600
Yes. Obviously?

>>51336520
Nigga, Magnus always had handicaps in that dues. He was surrounded by sisters, didn't want to fight Russ who had two wolves helping him, bunch of other shit and Russ still only won because he managed to blind him.

Adding another layer of handicap to Magnus doesn't change much.

>>51336624
So he wasn't sharded during the duel? Like what >>51336520 was talking about?

>>51336638
You dont feel that Russ beating up the handicapped kid cheapens the event at all?

>>51336649
>The rest of me went back, but I remained.'
No. In fact my complaint was that that didnt happen Anon.

>>51336683
Not really? Magnus was always handicapped in that fight.

Granted, i see Magnus as being stronger than standard Primarch, given that he can fight fleets head on and still win, so for me him having to be handicapped for that fight to be doable is par of course.

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>Alpharius and Omegon

>>51336842
2 many hairs.

>>51336842
That's clearly Omegon and Alpharius.

>>51336520
Magnus was always at a disadvantage 1vs1 his soldiers after the unification and before the BoP were always the best, it's just they were so few in number.
Magnus is the lion, Russ is a pack of wolves, or Magnus is Churchill and Russ is Ataturk with his zergrush waves

The solution to our problems. Whenever you make a new bread post this, as the first post after OP.
AWG is cancer, but complaining about him here spreads the cancer, so ignore him here but bitch about him in the 40k channel of the discord. I know this gives him a victory, but he won't change his ways so it is useless to try

>>51337291
>no AWG drama in the thread as yet
>"I know, let's talk about AWG"
Dude, no.

>>51337328
What is using radio therapy on a benign tumour, anyway he's asleep so shouldn't have to worry about his response

>>51337467
Well, that was unexpected. Well done that man.

>>51337467
Nice yellow. How did you achieve it?

>>51337467
>EXCUSE ME BROTHER FORGELORD, THE IRON WARRIORS HAVE SCRAWLED ON MY SCROLL, CAN I GET A NEW ONE?
>>That's the 5th one this week, I wish you'd just kill the one with the magic marker first when you get into CQC
>HE'S VERY DODGY

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/699931.page
Hey guys just wanted to share my blog here, what tips do you guys have

>>51337881
You haven't been following the tips of St. Duncan of the Many Layers, have you anon?

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>>51337881
Neat, I'd been wondering whether saurus shields would work on salamanders, or if they'd be too small/look goofy. Always nice to find someone else has taken the risk first.

Generally, I think you maybe haven't got the knack of getting the paint quite the right consistency yet - sometimes it looks a bit thick and sometimes it looks a bit streaky - but I think that'll come with practice. As the other anon says, might be worth looking up some tutorials. Darn good greenstuffing though.

>>51337582
No idea but it looks airbrushed or maybe I have airbrushing on my mind, I still have 30 yellow marine to basecoat and paint in the next 5 days.
I stole it from https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/5p6bqf/just_finished_my_if_contemptor_dreadnought/

>>51337881
Be careful with your purity seals anon, take a look at >>51337954, the only way the purity seals swishing behind him makes sense is if he had scratched his ass before suddenly jerking the shield arm up.

Is that the image you want your opponents to have?

>>51337881
>every single comment in the thread is praising his finger painting
I get that other forums are hugboxes but how can this shit be acceptable in an age when easy to find, easy to follow, high quality tutorials are available from official sources?

>>51337917
>>51337954
>>51337982
>these fuckers are falling for the bait
At least you're providing criticism

>>51336842
>>51337019
Those are two Silonii
Holy shit, is that the effect of too many cosmetic surgeries, or is it too much inbreeding?

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Daily reminder that only 13 alphariuses remain until the weekender where we are 100% guaranteed to get Inferno and every single model featured in the book and the iron havocs and the siege tyrants and the lernean terminators and everything else too

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>>51338657

>>51336520
What exactly are you expecting? Magnus was written able to vaporize and hulk smash ork gargants like they ain't nothing.

Crippled with handicaps is the only way he wouldn't just flick a magical booger at Russ and annihilate him.

Blame BL for making him so ridiclous.

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>>51338626

>>51335997
They'll probably be out after Inferno.

>>51338750
That is a time period of anywhere between after Inferno release date and the heat-deaht of the galaxy. Not very specific, so that's a prediction anyone could make

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>>51338796
Then we'll have to use time travel to go to post-Inferno and bring it back to us.

Whatdo you think of my list:

Ultramarines, 1850 points

Rite of war: Orbital Assault

=== HQ ===

Delegatus : Masterwork Legatine Axe, Artificier Armor, Refractor Field, Melta Bomb +++ 130

Master of Signal : Artificier Armor, Refractor Field +++ 115

=== ELITES ===

Invictarus Suzerain Squad (5) +++ 200

Legion Terminator Squad (5) : 5 Combi-Meltas, 1 Chainfist +++ 220

=== TROOPS ===

Tactical Squad (10) : Artificier Armor, Meltabomb, Power Weapon +++ 150
Drop Pod +++ 35

Tactical Squad (10) : Artificier Armor, Meltabomb, Power Weapon +++ 150
Drop Pod +++ 35

Tactical Support Squad (5) : Artificier Armor, 5 Meltaguns, Meltabomb +++ 190
Drop Pod +++ 35

Tactical Support Squad (5) : Artificier Armor, 5 Meltaguns, Meltabomb +++ 190
Drop Pod +++ 35

=== FAST ATTACK ===

Dreadclaw Drop Pod +++ 115

Fire Raptor : Armoured Ceramite, Autocannons, Hellstrike Missiles +++ 250

Master of Signal rides with a support squad, Delegatus with the Suzerain.

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>>51338796
Or FW could go lazy and let GW do a plastic release. Not bothering with a sculpt because their designers don't want to work on stuff they consider too boring.

Anons, I have a confession to make, but I have a suspicion that some of you feel the same way

I really don't like using resin. I just don't like it at all. I don't understand why it's acceptable to pay £110 for a Spartan that doesn't even fit together properly and requires various green stuff, hot water and blow drying just so I can construct the model which doesn't seem to look as good as the plastics.

I'm not having a go at people using full resin, or saying that plastic is better and the only way to go, but why do we jump on people who don't want to pay huge sums of money for poor quality products?

Is resin a status thing?

>>51338945
Because if you don't use resin, Anonymous will call you a faggot.

>>51338945
It's the resin supremacists groups that are keeping the resin market going and keep the plastics down.

Can anyone give me the dimensions of the boarding shields? I'm going to sculpt some myself, but a reference would be extremely useful.

>>51338809
This is the stupidest thing I've ever read, and I've read Deathfire by Nick Kyme.

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>>51339109
Have a look at pop goes the monkey on shapeways. He has a ton of custom boarding shields and the have dimensions at the bottom.

>>51339457
Is that the size of all the shields together?

>>51338874
Nobody?

>>51339692
I would assume so, the shields cover a marine, not a full sized Contemptor Dreadnought.
So that will likely be the size of the entire sprue.

>>51338874
I dislike how a full Invictarii deathstar of AP2@I4 can fit in mere 35pts of deepstriking transport.

>>51338945
There are a lot of aspects in model sculpting that's not possible or feasible in plastic. If you've ever seen an ornate kit such as Death Korps of Krieg, Solar Auxilia or Phoenix Terminators up close in person, you understand what I mean.
The sheer amount of miniscule details, sharp edges and three-dimensionality is not physically possible with plastic injection. Over the years GW have utilized and perfected multiple creative techniques and design decisions to avoid or obscure the shortcomings of plastic, which makes them hard to notice nowadays without being aware of them and directly comparing them to high quality resin sculpts.

There's also the manufacturing aspect of it, plastic injection needs to be used for mass production and sell large quantities to be profitable, while resin can be used for making and selling 10 copies a year while still making a profit.
For example, it's perfectly viable for FW to sell Iron Warriors MkIII shoulder pads which is an upgrade kit for one specific armour type of one specific legion in one specific supplement of one specific game. Trying to do the same with plastic injection would be economic suicide, and it's mostly thanks to resin that we're able to have so many legion-specific kits and so many unique vehicles and weapons.

I completely agree with you that it's stupidly expensive and an absolute cunt to work with, but I see it as a necessary sacrifice of money, time and effort to get a beautiful and unique end result.

>>51339187
Have you read Furious Abyss?

>>51339961
They have no way of actually buying a regular drop pod tho

>>51340179
Wait I got it wrong, they cannot buy a drop pod, that's what the dreadclaw is for.
Because their regular transport is a LR

>>51340136
God that book was bad.

>>51340281
Correct. Any other criticism?

>>51340290
If you have any flashbacks just listen to this to ease the pain. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR_Yh_Ynvko&t=280s It will probably help.

>>51340063
This is the most quality post I've seen on /hhg/ in a long time.

>>51338945
I love resin when is a infantry model, I think the details show up better. But I'm with you, resin vehicles and other big miniatures are a pain in the ass and look crumpy.

>>51339109
2.6cm by 1.7cm. That's the shields from the boarding shield upgrade set, not the (silly looking) breacher shields

>>51340063
I don't honestly have a keen enough eye for detail to notice or care if FW resin is actually higher quality than the newer GW kits, so I'll stay out of that argument. However, I'd like to point out the 6 different plastic upgrade sprues GW has produced in the past few years for 40K, 4 different chapters, deathwatch, and the genestealer cults, that include the usual 10 shoulderpads and some other bits as well. While certainly not as expansive as FW's upgrade kits, they do seem to be an option GW is willing to support.

>>51340562
If plastic casting is only profitable in large number then I wonder what the treshold is, as there have been numerous plastic kits that were limited edition by now (like the anniversary marine)

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>>51340325
As yellow-clad as my Byzantine monks.
Chaos-preventing scientific-progress distraction as it was, do you think the Emperor's version of the Imperial Truth could have gotten as flashy as this, or would it be contained in the individual minds of the population and enjoyed in education and research centers?

Holy Wisdom - Sancta Sophia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagia_Sophia

>>51340063
Up to a year or two ago I'd have agreed about the greater detail of resin, but it seems GW have really got their shit together in terms of the detail on their plastic (it's rumoured they have invested in some new machines). I'd say stuff like the new skitarii have just as much fine detail as you'll find on resin models.

Fully agree about economies of scale though.

>>51340645
It all depends on the size of a sprue, bigger sprue means bigger mould and those are quite expensive to machine. Small sprues like the blister-sized are probably also not as demanding in term of the injection machine.
That's just guesswork as I'm not familiar with their production process, but I had been working on a plastic injection machine for few months.

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>>51340782
I think maybe the research centers would be a thing. That sounds like something the Imperium would have done.

>>51340562
Even though they're upgrade sprues, they're still mass produced. GSC and DW sprues are packed into IG and SM kits respectively to be sold as new units, and UM/BA/DA/SW are probably GW's 4 most popular armies across all their range, so I'm assuming it's an experiment to see how profitable plastic upgrade kits can be. Before they got rid of finecast, almost all of their upgrade kits were resin/metal for similar reasons to FW.

>>51337353
Did I hear some-one mention my name

>>51341637
:^)

>>51341637
>>51342023

GOD DAMNIT FABIUS!

>>51336520
Eh, it sounds like a small fraction of him was on Terra, and that may have been the only "shard" until Russ broke him into the other 99 pieces.

Unless he's saying that all of those tutelaries were already Magnus-shards.

In either case, that's his psychic self. I don't see that impacting his physical abilities when he fought Russ. You might be overthinking it.

>>51337993
I actually see painting skill progress in that forum thread. The flash isn't helping, but there's hope.

>>51338874
Looks alright, really. Not that anyone plays 1850pt games... that's a 40k number. I'd drop some wargear to get a seventh deep striking unit (jetbikes or javelin?) so you can get 4 units on turn 1.

>>51342888
Only DropPods count for Drop Pod assault though, and I got 5 pods

Some of you are dense.
I said I would try a few days with no trip, even used a pictured post with WITNESS ME on it to signify it.

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>>51342763
DON'T REPLY TO HIM YOU MONG.

>>51343031
Thats not me you idiot, I haven't changed my trip code.

>>51338945
I've only really seen people take issue with IP theft, and that's not unreasonable. You're paying for the design as much as anything else.

A lot of us come from military modeling, in which obscure, low-volume products tend to be resin, imprecise, and expensive. It's entirely because they're low-volume. FW started out that way - it made sense when they had a relatively small market.

I wonder if they've sold enough Spartans now that a plastic kit would've been justified. While resin is better for detail (plastic can't handle any undercuts at all, hence the elongated studs on Mk IV armor towards the sides), it isn't well suited to vehicle hulls.

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>>51340805
See the elongated studs towards the sides of the pauldron? That's because the metal molds for plastic kits don't allow any undercuts.

Resin and metal can use flexible rubber molds that allow for some undercutting.

I've got a question.

If a global special ability applies while a model is "alive", does that mean physically on the table, on the table or in a transport, or even while in reserves?

>>51343248
Can you give a little more specification?

Some abilities like that require out of transport, others don't, but the consensus (FAQ said?) is that stuff in reserves doesn't give boosts

>>51343555
Remus Ventanus, HH5 p.236

Cunning Strategist

>Whilst Remus Ventanus is alive, stuff happens

>>51343605
>>51343555
To clarify

>Whilst Remus Ventanus is alive, the opposing player blah blah ...

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>>51343223
>these studs show how much detail you can get with resin
Meanwhile, over in plasticland...

>>51340479
Thanks. So those shapeway shields are pretty big then

>>51343656
If the art we've already seen of that dude is to be trusted, he'll be standing on a 40mm base, considering he towers over the black Templars, probably custodes sized.

On the debate between resin and plastic, I'll have to disagree that they're on the same level right now. Yes, GW has been dropping great models, but even their most detailed ones can't really replicate the amount and quality of detail achieved with silicon moulds, just compare the plastic and resin mechanicum models, the difference is quite evident.

Same goes for the character series and infantry models, the amount of detail crammed in there is yet not possible in plastic, fw heads for example are amazingly detailed, when seen next to a plastic one, the difference is abysmal.

Now, for there most part a regular person wouldn't notice differences between models, especially people with weaker eyesight, but the theme at hand is model quality, and in this case I can only say GW still has a long way to go.

I did it anons, my blacksbhield foot slogging list has been fully ordered. Time to begin working on priming the next 60 MKIII space marines.

>>51343988
Sounds like SOMEONE's going to have a massive backlog one day.

How do I become better at preparing resin models? I've been practicing painting cheap shit for a few weeks now, but I don't have any cheap resin models laying around to practice with for assembly and cleaning. I have come into possession of an extremely large amount of money and would like to get two 30k armies going (loyalist SA vs traitor SOH), but I want to ensure I do them right.

>>51344068
I already do Anon. I already do.

I have 30 primed mkII and mkIII astartes, 40 unprimed mkiiis, ordered another 20 mkIII because that value. My order was:

1x recon squad
4x apothecaries
2x cataphracti terminators
2x heavy support squads
3x rapier laser destroyer batteries
2x Leviathan Siege Dreadnaughts

4x astartes shotguns
1x volkite chargers
1x missile launchers
1x lascannons
4x chain axes
1x seeker bolters

>>51343656
>failing to realize GW or FW could make that model even crisper in resin if they wanted to
>failing to realize that he was talking about level of detail and depth of detail and lack of undercuts and not just AMOUNT of detail

>>51344068
And that's before you factor in my 2500 points of unpainted and unassbled mechanicum. (Up for sale by the way)

>>51343914
Jesus christ that delusion. You're shown a model with really fine detail and your only argument is that it must be huge so the detail is actually less fine. Come the fuck on man.

Bah, what's the point, I'm clearly just a regular person with bad eyesight, I can't appreciate the detail of resin like patricians can.

>>51343656

Compare Tartaros and Cataphractii knee pads between plastic and resin. Plastic is a joke and the kneepads are solid fucking blocks whereas the resin ones actually are thin plates that jut up. You probably don't even own any resin though.

>>51344264

You do have shit eyesight because you completely missed the image he was showing you with the crappy bonding studs.

>>51344275
>>51344307
Oh. I thought you guys where just being dicks to him. Hmm!!! There is significantly greater detail in the resin examples.

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>>51343223
>See the elongated studs towards the sides of the pauldron? That's because the metal molds for plastic kits don't allow any undercuts.
No it isn't, it's because all the studs are rounded cylinders pointing towards the chest, the elongated is because of some maths term i'm unaware of but pic related explains it so whatever.

>>51344430
Addendum: It would have made more sense for the bonds to point towards the shoulder, but that's the design, not the medium.

>>51344430
>studs are the way because X
>NO, the studs are the way because of -i can't really explain X-

>>51344467
I was going to say that. Bonds should point towards the center of the shoulderpad, not merely forward to back

>>51344275
>y-you just don't own any resin
I do, which I why I don't think it's as good as plastic for really sharp details. Resin often has a soft of "soft cheese" texture on edges and fine details, while plastic (in recent times) can be really sharp with its detail. I genuinely don't agree that the model in >>51343656 could be done in resin, the filigree and faces on the armour would smudge out (for want of a better term).

Like I say, a few years ago resin was definitely better, but nowadays I find plastic actually to be more sharply detailed when I'm examining it (doing cleanup etc. before glueing) in hand.

>>51344430(((Jew)))

>Defending badly designed plastics

I get it, you gotta be a good goy and everything, but there's no need to go as far as claiming the plastic bonding studs are in any way better than the resin ones.

>>51344528
Funny how you're speaking of resin...

>>51344483
I'm not a topologist, alright? I could take the diagram and put it through paint to illustrate my point.
>>51344548
Did I claim that? Because I didn't, I was just pointing out the design isn't a result of the limitations of the plastic. Also see >>51344467

>>51344576
>You've been visited by the Haugman of vibrations
>Low-bubble resin will come to you but only if you post

>TWO FUCKMACHINES PLEASE

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Two fuckmachines please.

>>51344809
You forgot "In this thread"

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>>51344576
No matter how low we go we will never reach Finnish autism levels.

>>51344576
... I guess the guy doesn't know how easy it is to make something to shake your resin mold using some electro motors and wieghts ...

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>>51337467

>>51343656
Makes me want to do a Corsairs Army.

Mostly because pirates, but also because some fresh xenos to fight in my group.

>>51345367
Corsairs are probably the best way of representing 30k Eldar.

>>51344576
Oh man, I had to get a tissue to wipe all these tears of my face from laughing so hard.

>>51343988
>foot slogging
>in 30k
A-anon... I don't think that's a very g-good idea...

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>>51345172
This is what Finns are like. Their autism beats everyone's.

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If the Emperor and Dorn knew that the Siege of Terra was imminent, why didn't they move as many citizens as they could find into the Imperial Palace instead of sealing the doors and letting the Emperor's Manchildren turn billions of citizens into snuffstitutes?

>>51337467

>tell your opponent you're going for a restroom break
>leave
>come back
>find graffiti on the purity scrolls of your models

wat do?

>>51345427
Thats what I was thinking. They can be pretty strong with some combos, but If you're taking Corsairs over Craftworld it's pretty obvious optimization smash-fest isn't your goal.

>>51345550
Because that's a considerable drain on supplies
Because the Emprah's post-mancave isn't THAT big
Because the resources needed for that large a relocation were needed elsewhere
Because they probably did partially? The traitors did break into the palace, Eternity Gate was right in front of the Throne Room.

>>51345431
I'm T5 3+ save Blackshields, if I can't foot slog, no one can.

>>51345550
They needed room to fight, I know the palace is huge, probably had a lot of people sheltered in it, but Terra is to full of people. There's also a strong possibility that of they took in a ton of people there would probably be a few traitors amongst them.

Not to mention they probably armed hordes of people and sent them into the grinder.

>>51345172
How do you know he's a Finn?

>>51345583
Did they leave greasey finger prints? Graffiti can be repaired. Touching another player's model with fingers is grounds for having your entire army up your ass.

>>51345617
>>51345627
That's assuming they didn't conscript every man woman and child into the imperial militia. You know they would resort to it if everything was on the line.

>>51345639
He's not. He's Swedish.

>>51345618
>no one can
Thats my point. One match against that and its phosphex mortar batteries, medusae, and typhons out the wazoo from there on out.

>>51345646
But what if my opponent plays dark eldar and/or slaanesh chariots?

>>51345652
Norwegian sentenced to life in Australia.
As in, that's the sentence: being alive in Australia :^)

>>51345683
He knew the price.

>>51345663
But who just do that to someone when loads of marines are much more fun?

>>51345683
I don't understand your question.

If its a knight you can break off the arms to widen the passage so you can fit the main body up there.

If you don't feel like going to that effort then just shit in their army case.

>>51345663
I won't be completely boned against such things. T5 ensures I have fnp and with the ability to switch that to orphans of war at a moments notice, my foot slogging infantry suddenly have free deep striking. Not to mention I have a decent spread of anti tank weaponry.

>>51345834
You mean Outlanders?
Also FnP wont save you against medusae or typhons being S10 and all. Phosphex batteries will be doing 50+ wounds at AP3.

I can imagine one game where it goes ok and then every subsequent one you getting barraged to death

>>51345834
>switching your trait
Why not just go with BA if you want to deepstrike on the spot?

Question: Are the Blood Ravens in this time period?

>>51346015
[Angry ADB noises in the distance]

>>51346015
I'm guessing nothing stops you from making a TS army with emphasis on Divination and a BR colour scheme.

>>51346067
Well, I'm more interested in their mysterious past.

>>51345932
By and large the majority 30k/40k armies aren't going to be throwing around massive pie plates, are they?

Eventually I want to pick up some siege tanks of my own, but retain the foot slogging elements of the list.

>>51346012
I only want to play Blackshields because I don't really enjoy any of the Legiones colors or themes. Ten years of reading the lore has left me jaded in having to play a specific set of guys with relatively clear intentions. The closest Legion to what I wanted to play where Thousand Sons or Dark angels, with the six year delay I was turned off Thousand Sons and if I want to play Vanilla legions with toys I might as well go with something I can paint how I want to.

>>51346074
Then the answer is officially, no.
However, Your Dudes could easily be one of the units of TS that were sent away from Prospero prior to the attack of the mange, or one that never got there in the first place. Then do what
>>51346067
said

I'm trying to make my Genetor army a bit more than just a bunch of beasties, since at the moment they look a little more Vampire Counts. Adding in some Thallax might be nice, but I want a big tank alongside the artillery. Ideally not a Baneblade. Anything nice in the Admech Lord of War box?
I heard Malcadors were cool, anything that is at least decent and would fit the theme?

>>51346319

Ordinatus

>>51346408
...Majoris.

>>51343656
They've avoided having any undercuts. It can be done with more separate pieces and simply by designing with plastic in mind. If the Mk. IV pauldrons were split in half, they probably wouldnt have that weird effect. And if the Eldar dude and Custodes were resin, their filigree could be finer and have more edge to them (slight undercut).

Incidentally, metal can have deeper undercuts than resin, and that's why the Finecast models that were originally designed for metal production had issues.

Resin/metal are more labor intensive than plastic, so it will never be cheap. Meanwhile the real cost of plastic minis depends almost entirely on sales volume.

>>51346074
Cult of the Corvidae of the Thousand Sons.

The symbol of the Corvidae was that of a black raven's head.

>>51346319
Vulterax are hot right now but not large tanks.
Knights are a LoW choice for Mechanicum (you said Admech though...) and so is that new giant Acastus knight :) or the Atrapos are good.
The Macrocarid is a good choice with it's radiation engines, desu there's not much that would fit a Xenologis except a tough EXPLORATOR vehicle that will melt biological faces or crumple those meat sacks in to tiny little balls.

Still want something big? Ordinatus. Or just a pimped out stormlord limo to transport your beasties.

>>51335964
your pic should be updated to have a "Rules Lawyer District"

>>51344493
A mold consists of two parts that can only separate in one direction. Radial molds don't exist.

>>51346498
Going to make some cool squid-blimp Vulturax myself, hopefully. I completely forgot the Macrocarid exists, it's very fluffy and cool. OK, that's certainly going on the list. Might make that Stormlord eventually, stick 50 milita Levies on it and do the back up like a cloning vat, assault the crap out of someone. First a serious tonk, though. Thanks.

>>51346558
Clone-vat Stormlord?

FUCK YEAH!

>>51345550
Uh… you want to move noncombatants into the place that's going to see the most combat?

>>51346802
All of Terra was going to see combat anyway.
IIRC Dorn fortified all of Terra, he started with the formal defenses and the Imperial Palace of course, but then didn't he had Quad Guns installed in all available rooftops and balconies?

All we know is that Terran streets are (or used to be) straight lines, a feature Cadia had to fix after the First Black Crusade.

When will the Thousand Sons be featured in one of the Forgeworld HH books?

>>51347031

When Inferno is out.

When it is out? With luck, in three weeks. But that's becoming increasingly doubtful.

>>51345550
>>51346983
What's wrong with straight roads

>>51347067

Unobstructed lines of fire.

>>51347067
Cadia rebuilt its Kasrs so that street fighting would become as dangerous as Zones Mortalis, and "blocks" could be held for months or years now that unobstructed lines of fire were gone.

I assume it's the "CoD kid camping in the corner with a shotgun" strategy, only that it's a group of Cadians camping with a Heavy bolter instead.

Promotes defense, makes attacks costlier.
Aka it forces the enemy to try and out-Guard the Imperial Guard.

>>51347060
Why is it increasingly doubtful? Do you think that, just because they haven't reassured you daily that it's on track, it's going to be delayed? Do you think the rest of the world disappears every time you blink? Protip: stuff continues to happen when you're not observing it.

>>51347151
>I thought you were dead!

>>51347060
Yeah, FW are going to miss the HH weekender and are releasing that Custodes shit without rules just so they can be massive trolls.

It'll be out at the weekender for those attending. Internet plebs will have to wait.

>>51347072
>>51347135
So you want sharp corners so machine guns ar more effective?

>>51347421
I'd imagine you want something like Washington DC - a design with multiple concentric circles and smaller circles spaced around. Only instead of open areas for men to assemble maybe heavily build blockhouse buildings with food and ammo stashed in the basement levels?

>>51347421
Rather it cancels heavy weapons' range advantage and forces it to move, thus turning trench warfare into Zones Mortalis room-for-room fighrting.

A concept that only really makes sense when fighting regular mortals, since that's precisely the space marine's job: to storm positions and clear them with grenades, boltgun and chainsword.

But at least they get reduced to marine-on-Camping-Squad and cannot use their other tools.

>>51347549
I would think in addition to (or maybe more than) the threat of chaos marines is the threat of demons popping up. I could even see an interior design aesthetic using randomly spaced walls and columns to prevent demons blinking in or at least make it much riskier that they'll half phase into a wall

>>51347421
The ideal street plan for cities that need to be fortified for ground fighting is some form of sawtooth street arrangement instead of grid, with choke points wherever possible. The most important part of the city should either be at the centre (so the rest of it should be in concentric rings or wedges) or if you have a natural feature, on top of that or with your back to it.
The most important bits should be elevated, more important, the higher.

Think of Minas Tirith combined with trench warfare, basically. Also take a look at some European cities that saw warfare in the streets or expected it, where their castles and the remains of their walls are etc.

>>51347315
>FW puts only Custodes stuff up for pre-order
>Radio silence on all things Inferno
>No Magnus preview
>;^)
Oh yes I'm SURE they wouldnt delay it again right Anon?

>>51347632

How come they never worried about attacks on all sides or pincers if the crucial point is in the very center? You'd have thought that the most important part being unapproachable from 2 or more sides would be the best, so the enemy HAS to funnel in from one side and you can concentrate defenses there. Although that would also lead to some swingy defeats if something pushed through.

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>>51347686

>>51347745
The centre is equidistant from all points of attack. You can do a pincer or multi-front push at any location theoretically, so may as well make your HQ furthest from all lines of approach.
Being at the centre also gives you the best LoS, Communication and supply options.

Centre is only not good if it's weakened by geography (like a valley) or there is a superior natural feature. Even then you'd put a fortified supply/transport depot in the middle.

>>51347868
Would a list built around a fortification have the capacity to be competitive?

>>51348068
Probably not, because you're relying on the enemy coming to you when most games tend to have objectives in no-man's-land that your opponent can more ably secure.

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Was this posted yet? Interesting they're going to do an Adepticon-style 28mm Adeptus Titanicus battle. I really hope the new AT rules are cool.

>>51348276
>Ordo Sinister

Oh yeaaaaaah...Imperator Titans only in Adeptus Titanicus, of course.

>>51347745
Google castles like Heidelberg, or any city with a fortress, to look at exacts, but >>51347632 explained the basics of fortifying pretty well.

Remember that fortresses are in part designed as a force multiplier, so that soldiers can hold of five or ten times as many men at any given point. And while Emps probably didn't things to end up as bad as they did, nonetheless the set up of his defenses probably followed that logic-

Step one is keeping battles in the sky, where killing thousands is a hell of a lot easier, and the strength of the Militia and Dorn's naval prowess can really count for something. That worked out pretty, it seems, but inevitably some guys will get to the ground.

Which comes to step two, forcing as many traitors
into whatever choke point can be managed. That gives time (the most valuable asset) and balances out power, since a regular-ass human only has a chance against Marines at range.

So basically Emps did everything he could, but ultimately had to sacrifoce every man, woman, and child within a 100-mile radius to get enough bodies for defenses. But I guess it worked in the end

>>51348234
You do have fortifications with Destroyer weapons, so they're not all just bunkers and trenches.

>>51348276

Is there a bigger version of this out?

>>51348356
Not that I have access to.

>>51348343
That's true.

If one allows the AoD psychic powers, you can fling forts at your enemy filled with assault units.

>>51348276

So the next book is called Angelus. Huh.

>>51348380
Yup, FW mentioned at an Open Day it'll focus on Dark Angels and Blood Angels. Poor White Scars are gonna have to wait.

>>51348356
You need something transcribed? Happy to if it's too small to read for you.

>>51348276
>road to terra
>climax of the war looming

How fast are they gonna skip through the Heresy?

>>51348453

Skip? They've dragged it out to death. It's taken nearly 50 books to reach Terra. It could have taken 100 given how much they've been milking this shit.

>>51348276
>Angelus
Wonder if my book will be out next year

>>51348517
Well, FW books have barely gotten past Isstvan and Prospero is set before that. Furthest we've really gotten has been Calth, and even that's pretty early in the Heresy.

With the FW release schedule, if they're gonna get to Terra with BL, there's gonna be some serious skipping of events.

>>51348592

FW aren't bound to BL's schedule. They'll get to the Siege of Terra when they want to, which likely will not be for many years.

So is Fenris dead

>>51348387
More like they couldn't be found.

>gotta go fast

>>51348628
No. The Wolves just got embarrassed a little and had to allow the Ordo Hereticus to cull their population and check the remaining population for heresy when ever they want.

>>51348517
And now they've confirmed they're going to speed up, two of the announced books are being 'hyped' by saying that between them they'll tie off six plot lines.
What a clusterfuck.

>>51348786

Exactly. The HH series was dead long ago, but it's going to go out in the worst possible way.

>>51348626
Feels weird for GW not to maximize their sales by having all their properties converge at the same time. If they didn't care, maybe they shouldn't have forced BaC and BoP in the vicinity of FW book releases. BoP would have serves so much better as a game about Phall, IW vs. IF in MkIII and all that shit.

Okay boys, it's another list. I've got 50 points left to kick around, how do you think I should do it?

HQ (50)
Centurion

Elites (1,240)
Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought
>2 Assault Cannon
Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought
>2 Assault Cannons
Terminator Squad
>2 Chainfists, Land Raider, Armored Ceramite
Terminator Squad
>2 Chainfists, Land Raider, Armored Ceramite

Troops (320)
Tactical Squad
>10 Marines, Rhino
Tactical Squad
>10 Marines, Rhino

Fast Attack (330)
Javelin Speeder
>3 Speeders
Javelin Speeder
>3 Speeders

Heavy Support (460)
Vindicator
>Demolisher Cannon
Vindicator
>Demolisher Cannon
Deredeo Dreadnought
>Plasma Cannonade

Lords of War (550)
Legion Fellblade
>Armored Ceramite

So right now I'm not using any RoW, but the Head of the Gorgon could be pretty pimpin for outflanking tanks. Should I use the rest to make the centurion into a Praetor? However that only allows 1 fast Attack, so if so where should I put the rest of my points from dropping some Javelins?

>>51348852

Well, the Mk II Box Set we'll likely see this year might be IW vs IF, or DA vs NL.

>>51348892
>I've got 50 points left to kick around, how do you think I should do it?

Put some equipment on that centurion, holy fuck at least an invulnerable save item.

>>51348893
From what we heard from our GW rep, the next box set will be the assault on holy terra. He didn't give us any real details, but they apparently showed to it staff members so they'd be able to sell it to stores once the time came.

>>51348940
Assault on Terra so they can just skip to MkVII armor and make no new molds right?

I mean I'm hoping for some MkV or VI, but who knows.

>>51348940

What I think the GW Rep was showing is a re-release of the assault on holy terra board game. I sincerely doubt we'll be seeing a Holy Terra Board game like BaC or BoP this year, given that neither BL or FW are anywhere near the Siege.

>>51348892
Without the HotG, all your vehicles aren't resilient at all which should be the point of IH. Losing FA slots isn't that big a deal, tanks or dreads do better than speeders

>>51348921
>put some equipment
I get the logic, but HQ's are either a spend crap of spend a lot.

But I like the idea, and he can do damage in the right scenario. How about I drop one unit of Lamd Speeders, upgrade a Land Raider into a kitted-out Spartan, and give him Terminator armor? That fills up the points and makes a pretty basic little killsquad

>>51348940

This is likely true because Goulding or whoever just got fired/quit and he posted photos of the Terra game box set.

>>51348893
All the material I've seen of Phall makes it into a very close quarters scenario, so MkIII feels like the suit for the job. Hell, maybe GW starts putting out those Assault and Breacher kits? Man can dream... Too bad it's taking so long I'm just gonna make my own.

>>51349019
That was the old FFG Horus Heresy board game, nothing new.

>>51349105

And it seems likely what we'll get is a re-release of the FFG Game.

>>51349019
Goldie's working for Disney, telling all the Star Wars fanboys their canon is shit and they need to check their privilege and embrace the new canon.

>>51349148

So literally no different to what it is now?

I still miss the thrawn trilogy.

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>>51347686

Okay, this is looking pretty good!

Iron Hands: Talos Assault Force
Rite of War: Head of The Gorgon
Crusade FOC

HQ (580)
Praetor
>Terminator Armor, Paragon Blade, Melta Bombs
Terminator Bodyguard
>4 Bodyguards, 2 Chainfists, Land Raider, Armored Ceramite

Elites (925)
Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought
>2 Assault Cannon
Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought
>2 Assault Cannons
Terminator Squad
>2 Chainfists, Spartan Tank, Flare Shield, Armored Ceramite

Troops (320)
Tactical Squad
>10 Marines, Rhino
Tactical Squad
>10 Marines, Rhino

Fast Attack (165)
Javelin Speeder
>3 Speeders

Heavy Support (460)
Vindicator
>Demolisher Cannon
Vindicator
>Demolisher Cannon
Deredeo Dreadnought
>Plasma Cannonade

Lords of War (550)
Legion Fellblade
>Armored Ceramite

3k points on the dot. Fluffy, Killy, and fun as fuck. Thanks anons

>>51349256
No Cyber Familiar on the Praetor for that sweet 3++ ?

>>51349256
And hey, not to sound jewy, but would you begrudge me if I got regular 40k Speeders instead of the FW ones?

They look really cool, but damn 57£ is steep shit, espcecially considering I can buy 3 regular ones for 75$ at my LGS.

>>51349313
Just run them as normal speeders. They have their own entry. They even get graviton guns!

>>51349308
Fuggg, I'll drop a Chainfist and Melta bombs. Thanks, that'll come in handy

>>51349313
I wouldn't but only if you did something to distinguish them, preferably a sweet conversion

Honestly the speeder cost is why I stick with attack bikes

>>51349358
I've got some leftover bits from a B@C, it'd look pretty funny to model on of the guys leaning out the side with a Rocket Launcher. Not sure how that'd give him BS5, but hey, it'd look pretty cool

>>51348276
So is this confirming Infernus will be available at the weekender?

>>51349313
Javelins are bigger than the plastic so either run regular or do a good conversion. Don't just run them as javelins

>>51349431
>Inferno

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Getting there on Pretty Rambo.

Epaulettes, Forgebreaker,cloth, wires and lenses left for the most part, as well as an edge highlight on some of the armour for added definition.

>>51349313

Normal speeders have their own rules and they're quite good. Give them graviton guns and 2 hunter killer missiles for a 65 point dick ass side armor flanker who will slap your enemies gf(medusae) with unbelievably points efficient haywire.

Take 3-5, they're great

>>51349464

What gold are you using?

>>51349525

For the vent parts and hazards, it's Retributor Armour, then Agrax Earthshade wash, then 50/50 Retributor and Mithril Silver, then Mithril.

>>51348940
>GW rep
Are they finally being told things more than a week in advance?

>>51349464
Apologies if you've already answered this somewhere else, but where's his helmet from?

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>>51349723
No worries. It's the DG Contemptor head, extended slightly to be tall enough to be the right height for his head.

>>51349723
not that guy, but the DG contemptor head with some GS to add length

>>51349821
>>51349823

Awesome, cheers. I'm looking to kick off my foray into Heresy this year with IW, but I'm not a big fan of Perty's stock head.

>>51349464
Fatty qt.

"I am fortifying my waistline, dorn"

>>51349578

Thanks, it looks great IW guy. I've been searching for an acrylic gold for a long time. Most are too yellow, or aren't acrylic. I know the new white lidded GW metallics are very good but now with a photo I guess I'll pick up a pot as I also use Agrax for washing.

Just wish they sold something lighter like the 50/50 mix because I don't like mixing paint.

>>51350084
Cheers. Liberator Gold is close to the 50/50 mix but mine has utterly separated and is basically now trash. Not sure if that's a common problem, but it's worth looking at the range.

>>51336037
Well then maybe if the FW fuckboyz stop buying, they will get the picture.

>>51336229
Lion has as much screen time as Russ in Russ book.
Fucking hilarious

>>51350164

It's Chris Wraight, I love his take on the Lion.

>>51337467
I guess it's not like the name ruins a nice paint job (it's not) or an expensive model (looks like a shit tier recast) so.... great? I guess?

>>51350164
Does anyone still have the link to this kicking about? I missed it.

>>51350197
He wrote the Scars Trilogy right?
Easily the best BL has left

>>51349431
No, it just means they're just going to talk about it. There's a good chance it'll be there for pre-sale, no guarantee though.

>>51350269
I tried to upload that shit, but 4chan says mine is corrupted or unsupported. Which is wierd I got it from here

>>51350513

Yes, and Wolf King.

He's the best of the current HH Authors, though I have no idea how long that will last. We once praised ADB and everything he wrote, and now he's hated. I suspect soon we'll find something to hate about Chris Wraight and a new author to praise to high heaven. For now, Wraight is the best the HH team have.

>>51350654
>Chris Wraight
Didnt this guy write Battle of the Fang? Pretty sure thats up there with the worst of the BL novels.

So I'm out of the loop a bit. Why is ADB hated now?

>>51350752
Daddy issues, waifus and Abaddon wank.

>>51350752

Spoiled shit about a book that isn't out yet.

Said shit isn't even feasible.

>>51350269
Look for Warhammer Art of War on VK

>>51350197
Everybody seems to do the Lion better than Gav.

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>>51350752

>>51350654
Is Anthony Reynolds good? I was recommended his Word Bearers Omnibus.

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>>51350868
Didn't read the WB books, but his take on Kharn is top grade.

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Think we can make a /hhg/ edit out of this? Or how I stopped worrying and learned to love the Ironfire?

>>51351058

That remains one of the best movies ever made and the best black comedy ever.

>>51351099
I'll trust those dubs. Can I watch it on Netflix?

>>51351120
Maybe? I'm certain it's on Amazon, but definitely worth the watch. It's one of those movies that's (much like 40k and all sci-fi since) had a lasting impact on culture and cinema as we know it, but gets skipped over and widely forgotten. Funny as hell, too

>>51351410

To the point where when Reagan became President, one of his first questions to the White House Staff was asking where the War Room was.

What is this new Space Marine super friends I hear about and why are they placing?

>>51351479
What?

>>51351479
Wrong general friendo.

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>>51351494
>>51351511
fuck i swapped the tabs somehow

here have some more incompetence to level it out

>>51351538
That pic was worth it. Saved.

>>51351410
Yes it's on Netflix.
I did like it, but not to the "OMG such a masterpiece" level most hail it as. Was pretty bored at the end.

>>51351577
Its ridiculous, it really is. No way anyone is going to follow that. I get not shooting behind you byt twisting the arm 180 but still.

Either GW thought guns had a native cone of LoS from the muzzle, which to be fair so did i(I had to double check, there isnt. I confused the 45 degree arc on models that the wepon couldnt move). Or worse; they didnt realize it generated a blindspot.

Fortunately its narrow enough that very few things can actually hide in it, but its still bullshit.

>>51351538
>>51351848

That's not a blind spot, it's the arc of fire for trampling, stomping on and kicking motherfuckers.

>>51351889
Nonsense. Knights can dance in full superheavy armour.
Not to mention those arm-mounted guns can swivel

>>51351923
see >>51351538
Its been edited but its from the recent FAQRATTA(TM) and still stands that knight arms have a blindspot

Sup /hhg/, I'm waiting for my red books to arrive, wondered if you could answer a question for me while I wait.

I've been playing around in Battlescribe, and it looks like Librarian Consuls have neither force weapons nor psychic hoods - that being the case, what's a good way to represent a Librarian, modelling-wise?

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>>51352434
I like my own interpretation better, it makes more sense.

>>51352740
So it goes with many things in the FAQ.

>>51352721
There must be a problem with the program, librarians can take force weapons. No psychic hoods though, I guess those were a later development

Actually I'm painting up a librarian now with a force staff, converted from the Betrayal at Calth chaplain model.

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Armoured Spearhead, Iron Warriors vs Imperial Fists.

>>51352785
No, Psychic hoods were a thing.

>>51352809
30k librarians don't get those.
>>51352785
For the ALs?

>>51352809
How weird, I just figured since they're not a wargear options for the base librarians.

>>51352818
Yep, Alphas are all about trickery and what better secret weapon than your mind?

>>51352785
Ah, okay. That makes it a bit easier, then, thanks.

>>51352786
Which episode of Garupan is that? i dont recognise it, but its been a while

>>51352889
Idk, I grabbed it from a filename thread, I think.

>>51352889
That's a semovente, so it's from the OVA where they face the Italian team

>>51347686
Why would they bother with a Magnus preview? This is FW! They'll probably have The Lion on display and for sale with an announcement they're working on an upgrade kit for the plastic Magnus instead.

>>51352906
>>51352903
Cheers, i'll go download

>>51344576
What a legend.

>>51349464
That helmet is genius.

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REMINDER SLANNESHI TRANSEXUAL YOUTUBERS ARE WARHAMMER RELATED AND SHOULD NOT BE REMOVED OR BANNED USER!!!

>>51343656
FUKKEN XENOS

>>51340908

This is a hell of a shot in the dark, but does anyone know of anything I could read to learn how to make these Icons? Googling "Photoshop Icons" is, perhaps unsuprisingly, less-than-helpful.

Eastern Orthodox iconography has always felt super Imperial to me, even though my mental architecture of the Imperium is very western.

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>>51353412
BANNED

>>51340325
Nice

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I figure this is the best place to ask, because you guys have probably built the most of them.

I play raven guard, I just ordered 2 storm eagles and a fire raptor (working on a JP/flier drop assault list). I know I'm in for a hell of a time from what I've heard about the kits, but I could used suggestions/tips/hard-earned lessons about how to fix the dreaded bends in the side panels.

>>51354011
Hot water and a flat surface, rubber bands to hold to the rest of the body. LOTS of dryfitting.

>>51354011
dry fit everything, twice

>>51354098
>>51354109
so busniess as usual combined with untold amounts of swearing.

and here I was hoping for something that was less like torture.

>>51354011

The Fire Raptor used to be a nightmare but then FW fixed the molds. But that was 3 years ago. Depending on how many orders they've gotten since then the molds might be just as bad as they used to be unless FW replaced them recently.

>storm eagles
>two of them

Make sure the knot in the noose is strong enough to support your weight.

So, I'm cheap as fuck (relative to being a 30/40k player). Does anyone know of a DAngles successor chapter that uses pre-heresy colors?

Reckon I'll get away with using my DG Mk III and IV in 40k?

>>51354434
Shouldn't be an issue

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>>51354385
Consecrators. They don't even own a single suit of MkVII or MkVIII. Though they do have yellow eye lenses.

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>>51354490

Are variant legion/chapter markings a thing in HH or just magnetize PAULDRONS and swap?

Sorry, I only just got into Marines, I've only been Guard and Orks before so I know fuck-all.

>>51354520
Only for the Word Bearers, I'm afraid. Perhaps we'll see when the DA book comes out. Also, 30k DA don't have the red helmet stripe like all Consecrators have, either.

>>51354520
it varies legion to legion, but some have quite a few. imperial fists in particular have a very varied set of paint jobs in book 3. the general vibe FW is trying to get across is to let you make your guys into your guys while making sure it's clear which legion your guys belong to.

>>51354445
Sweet. Hoping to double team both games since 40k seems to be picking up a bit of promise.

>>51354543
You'll just need to work out a "story" for yourself I imagine, they are still space marines after all.
Keep in mind that the Force Organisation Chart you're using for Horus Heresy will be a little more rigid than the Decurion style Detachments your opponents will likely be using in 40k.
That will put you at a bit of a disadvantage.

Right, I know exactly what the next thread's header should be.

Angelus will save /hhg/ edition. Because fuck Inferno, Angelus is where it's going to be at.

>>51354490
Consecrators' badge is the Firewing icon.

>>51354909
>Implying we ever get anything more then knight heads
Entitled much?

>>51354909
Angelus when edition

Also how many delays are we expecting? I need me some pretty boys

>>51355258

We literally just got a ton of custodian shit. It's not all Knight Heads.

And Inferno's overrated, but Angelus will truly save /hhg/, by giving us Sanguinius, Raldoron and Amit. Not to mention the Lion, Corswain and Luther.

>>51355333
desu, I wish they'd announce that they were at least working on the missing members of the first set of Primarchs.
I'd like models for Alpharius in full regalia and Rogal Dorn, thank you very much.

>>51355395

We'll get Dorn and Alphy with the Solar War Book. That one might well come after Angelus.

>>51355428
But they've had rules since book 2, why wait so long with their models though?

Dorn might get released soonish, agreed.

But I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if there'd never be an official Alpharius model at all, bowing to the sentiment every Alpha Legionnaire could probably be Alpharius.

>>51355448

Why did we get Ferrus as the second Primarch model when Fulgrim, Horus and Mortarion hadn't been made yet? Why did we get Guilliman before Peturabo, when Book V came well after book III?

>>51355452
Alpharius isn't always hidden though, hence the request for Alpharius in his full regalia, as "normal" Alpharius could be anyone.

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>>51351538
>knight arms have smaller arc than what they can physically turn
>russ sponsons have larger arc than what they can physically turn

Seems legit.

>>51355333

and maybe some decent FA's

pls FW, even if its just some more fighty oriented jetbikes (that look like Sammaels).

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>>51349464
Fucking love it mate, you're a high point of these threads.

>>51350752
Recurrinf themes like daddy issues, waifus and Snowflakes characters that all have the same outlines, an incredibly childish attitude towards stuff he doesn't like (BR aren't TS dedcendants you guys! Imma try to push my ideas i reunions! Stop liking what I don't like!) And a very clear and professed chaos bias.

It's a shame, I really like how he writes, his style is my favorite, but the more he writes the more I disagree with him. His tendency to whine about stuff when called out on internet doesn't help either. As other people said, 40k os a universe so touchy and subjective depending on who you support that you're better off not interacting with the fans directly on forums.

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>>51354490
>>51354520
>>51355158
Patrician taste. Love this art of them, probably the only piece showibg a Consecrator. I was glad to see them having some screentime in the 3rd boon of Legacy of Caliban. Their CM is an interrogator Chaplain in ornate mk3, made 3 fallen repent.

>>51356260
Why are the shell casings coming out of the bolter's muzzle?

>>51356058
I might be wrong but I think Sammael's jetbike is the same as the Custodes ones, doubt we'll get any like these.

>>51356289
Maybe he's walking backwards so it looks like that?
More than likely, the artist just messed up.

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>>51356298

If we never get any of these I'm going to be sad, anon.

>>51356356
Prepare your wallet then, cus those will make the dickbikes look like cheap change.

>>51356356
>>51356298

Some recasters have Sammael, so if FW decides they don't want our money that might be an option. Bit of conversion work needed but it works.

>>51356395
I legit don't care how much they'll cost at this point.

I don't even have anything against the Scimitar, it's pretty cool, I just really like the more, visceral? I guess, look to that Jetbike.

It'd also be cool if they came with a different set of rules a la terminator armours but at that point I'm super wishlisting.

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Lads, I'm having lots of trouble planning out my list. I want to do a Word Bearers army based on the BaC box with some Gal Vorbak in drop pods and eventually Lorgar added in. What are the holes in this idea?

Should I kit out some Marines as heavy support, and maybe get rhinos for the tactical squads? I don't really want to just fill the list with tanks, as infantry + support appeals to me the most. And in that note, what flavor of infantry kit make the most sense?