Poseidon, in ram form, stole the nymph Theophane to an island

>>51291819
maybe Nymph and sheep reproductive parts are incompatible

>>51291819
In ancient times, animals were basically aliens. Take every guy whose gapped to green women and suddenly bestiality doesn't seem so weird.

But the times, they are a' changin.

>>51291819
>And that's how the race of the Welshmen were born

>>51291819
This doesn't even count as furry because they're not anthropomorphic. Also they're both sheep so technically I don't this this is even beastiality, just transformation fetish.

>>51292505
>This doesn't even count as furry because they're not anthropomorphic.
>He doesn't know about Feral
You poor innocent babe

>>51291819
That's because these stories were basically the porn of ancient Greece. And there was no original author of the mythology so it's basically all Fanfiction.

>>51291819
Because it's only in the recent years that highly sheltered and prudish societies became so overly worried about what is bad-wrong sex between consenting adults.

>>51291819
Still better than Loki, who turned into mare, as a part of a prank to lure carpenter's horse away from the job.
Ended up fucking the horse, and having it's baby. Or foal, or whatever they are called.

>>51292578
What do you mean by recent years? Because Catholicism has been telling people that any kind of sex is evil and sinful for centuries if not millennia.

>>51291819
They were fucking nuts, I tell you.

Zeus once transformed into a goose to fuck a woman.
A FUCKING GOOSE

>>51292615
>Not mentioning the Golden Shower

>>51291819
Simple. Ancient Greeks where shepherds, farmers, and fishermen largely constrained to a few islands for most of their lives. Also, they hated women so much so that they considered the only true love to be that between two men, and considered sex with women to largely be an unfortunate necessity. You know where this is going.

Sheepfuckers, every last one.

>>51292578
>consenting
>Greek gods
lol

>>51291819
I remember that Norse Mythology had Loky transform into a fem horse to seduces another horse from doing his job or something and later gave birth too.

>>51292630
Of course you'd remember that one Donald.

The dude banged Aphrodite, physical perfection of the female form. Where was he gonna go after that?

>>51292602
Loki has the moral high ground here. There was no rape and kidnapping in his case.

>>51292846
Well, he did it to ether win a bet with the carpenter, or to help someone else to win a bet.
So, sure less bad than kidnapping and rape, but still immoral.

>>51292680
But it was because of business reasons.
There where no actual feeling involved.

I dunno. I mean if you're a god that can fuck anything you want at some point you're probably going to start just doing crazy shit out of boredom, and turning into a ram to fuck someone you turn into a goat might be the only thing you can think of that's still kinky

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>>51291819
Because for the Greek gods rape isn't a big thing, it's like getting a smoke. You do it pretty much anywhere as long as you got the stuff needed for it. For them banging as animals was nothing special.

Originally Poseidon transformed Theophane into an ewe because he wanted to hide her from all the human lovers that chased her onto the island he hid her. But he also transformed all the people on the island into sheep to prevent them from telling this to the Theophane's lovers. Later he had enough and changed the other lovers to wolves because they started to slaughter all the shee of the island. He didn't change Theophane back to a beautiful woman because he was a selfish fuck (like Greek gods duh!) and didn't want anyone to fell in love with the beauty of Theophane ever again so he changed into a sheep and fucked her like that. I mean come on it is simply the proper way to do this what would people think if they would see a god fucking a sheep right?

Greek gods work on idiot logic.

>>51292876
He also gave the mutant eight legged offspring to his adoptive brother as a gift. Loki is pretty much of higher moral standing than any Greek god who's name isn't Hades.

>>51291819
My guess is that the various gods of Greece were the outcome of centuries of cult practices that go back to animal worship. At one point, Athena just was an owl, Zeus and Hera were a bull and cow, and Poseidon was a ram. The stories from that period keep getting retold even after the gods get seen primarily in human form, so a lot of shapeshifting goes on to make sense of it all.

More in the spirit of this thread, I'd like to point out that Chiron is a total Mary Sue character.
>Unlike all the other centaurs, my character is a paragon of civilisation and self-control
>Actually, he's not really a centaur, he just looks like them but anyone would instantly be able to tell that he's another superior being.
>Did I mention that his father is a god?

>>51292876
I agree.

...There has to be a less inane way for me to say this.

>>51292947
Greek gods work on rape logic and pettiness.

Norse gods work on drunken bets and stupidity.

>>51292980
>Greek gods work on rape logic and pettiness.
>Norse gods work on drunken bets and stupidity.
Quality worldbuilding fodder right here.

>>51292980
>>51292997
Can we extend that to other pantheons?

>>51292546
>He doesn't know about Feral
That's called zoophilia anon

>>51293019
Hindu: might really does make right, but only for gods.

Japanese: Everything is a god or a devil. EVERYTHING.

Chinese: Follow the paperwork and all is good.

>>51293019
Egyptian gods work on incest and frustration

>>51293045
>Japanese: Everything is a god or a devil. EVERYTHING.
>Chinese: Follow the paperwork and all is good.
Actually the paperwork part should also go on most of Japan's stuff.

>>51293019
Aztec gods work on sacrifice and sacrifice

>>51293058
> incest
To be fair, a lot of pantheons feature tons of incest. Might say something about humanity, come to think of it.

>>51293058
That is kind of vague.

>>51293131
I think it's more to do with most pantheons not having enough gods to avoid it, especially when there was one or two original creators

>>51293061
>>51293045

I like Japan's worldbuilding

>>51292925
>Hades
>bad
He's one with the fewest dickish stories mate.

>>51293070
>tfw playing Mictlan

>>51293214
Reading comprehension, do you have it?

>>51293131
>>To be fair, a lot of pantheons feature tons of incest. Might say something about humanity, come to think of it.
Not that much, the thing with god doing incest comes from the logic that Gods can only descend from other god but they have to originate from somewhere. Back then the clan mentality was much more prominent than being practical so most pantheons are modeled after the systems they had for families, clans, tribes or what have you for easier understanding of the masses. Most pantheons function like that with hierarchy and parent-child relationships but since they cannot bring other gods in from outside their line, their line goes back to one origin of the creation of the world so they inevitably have to end up all related with incest all over the place.

>>51293214
Apparently not, my apologies.

>>51293308
>51293214
Dude, this is just not your day.

>>51293204
>>51293061
>>51293045
You should also add that in Japanese folklore
>humans are little more than cattle and everything eat them regularly because there is plenty of them to go around and real food is precious.
>Emotions are like a force of nature. Humans are stupid assholes that rarely think things straight and react mostly by pure emotions. Strong pent up emotions do serious shit like raise the vengeful dead to haunt or turn people into animals or objects. (or animals into humans)
>Humans in general are submissive as fuck unless you are protagonist or something that generally excepts you from some rules.
>Demons are literally "humans+" they are pretty much the same thing they just do everything better. Demons are generally the stand ins for the asshole high class population that literally owned and treated the people of their land as property.
>Customs and protocol are super important regardless of who you are. The way to escape from being eaten by kappa is to bow before it which it will never never fail to return but that causes it to drop the bowl of water on its head which will cause it to loose its powers.
>The older something is the more important/powerful it gets, there is the belief that if something is old enough it spontaneously gains magic powers and living even more time they become godlike.
>EVERYTHING IS FUCKING WEIRD AND CREEPY.

>Americans natives: no matter what happened, blame coyote for EVERYTHING. If coyote is actually innocent (he is not) then blame everything on a spiders.

>>51294390
Fucking coyote

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>>51294390
>Coyote detected

>>51294390
Like the Norse with Loki and giants.

>>51292505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j67FlSknHB8

>>51294653
>51294653
Except Coyote has even less morality than Loki. With Loki you can kind of see where he thought he was doing something right, his moral compass just kinda veers every now and then.

Coyote uses a moral compass to club babies because he finds it ironic.

>>51294653
I always found it strange that only Norse gods have a specifically a trickster god which whole existence was to fucking up everyone's shit for shit and giggles. Egyptians got Seth, but he was a death god. I don't really think Greeks had a trickster god. Don't really know about other mythologies though.

>>51294746
>I don't really think Greeks had a trickster god.
Every god pulls that, but Hermes is basically the god of tricky little fucks.

>>51292604
That's not true. Catholicism has always encouraged sex as long as it's between a married couple. And no, not only for the purpose of reproduction. It's even more ridiculous given there were quite a few PROTESTANT sects far more prudish than Catholicism has ever been a couple centuries ago, and they mostly fled to the united states because no one else wanted them

>>51292604
Didn't count if it was anal.

>>51294746
Almost all the greek gods were insane cosmic manchildren. They didn't need a trickster god.

Alright 4chan. Truth time.

Is transformation+zoophilia seen less worse than furry anthro?

>>51294826
>>51294897
Wasn't there some minor Greek goddess of trickery who started the Trojan war? Or was she the god of spite or something?

>>51291819
>Greek gods
Lemme tell you about this guy named loki.

>>51294953
that's eris I think

>>51294935
If you ask me they are both absolutely disgusting but furries are leagues worse because they are actually extremely autistic and vocal about other people respecting their fetish while the other is just quietly disgusting. You could say the people involved has nothing to do with your question but in my opinion it has everything to with it and furries are just outright terrible people.

>>51294953
Goddess of chaos, Eris.

She didn't really do much outside of that as far as I remember

>>51294935
It's less obnoxious.

>>51294975
dude let himself get fucked by a horse to mess with a guy

>>51294953
It was Eris, the goddess of discord, but she and many other gods that were directly named after things were less what we understand as gods and more personifications of concepts. So ares was followed by Eris, Phobos and Deimos, which was just a way to say war brought discord, fear and dread.

>>51294868
>and they mostly fled to the united states because no one else wanted them
You mean were thrown out?

>>51295087
They could have stayed, fought and won their place like any other self respecting religion. Instead they ran like the bitches they are.

They ran when others demanded they stand and fight.

>>51294953
No Eris (the godess of discord) started the torjan war pretty much by accident because she was not allowed into a wedding celebration so she got pissed and threw in the golden apple that was to be give to the "fairest". The whole shit was that Paris, prince of Troy, had to judge between the 3 godesses Hera, Athena, and Aphrodite who each promised a big rewards for him (wisdom, power and the most beautiful woman evr) of course he choose according to his dick. The two loosing goddesses of course decided to ruin his life which over time escalated to the Troyan war.

Technically she did cause the war at its origins but it was not planned by her, it just slowly escalated into the whole thing because greek gods are manipulative assholes and everyone started to fuck around about troy in some way involving many mythical figures.

>>51295040
Oh, and another interesting thing is that Ares was almost never depicted as glorious or great like war gods from many other cultures. That mostly went to Athena, and that's more because she wasn't a war goddess per se as her domain in that regard was strategy, martial prowess and heroic deeds rather than literally reigning over war like Ares.

>>51294826
Speaking of Hermes, is he the only dedicated god of travelers? I'm admittedly not the greatest of scholars, but I can't seem to find any others that fill that role. There are a few that get it tacked on because a group wants to say that their god is in charge of everything good or helpful, but it's just a footnote to them.

>>51294746
Seth was not a death god. Youre confusinh him with either Anubis or Osiris.

>>51295180
Yeah, Ares the "god of war" was at best a shitty and incompetent Saturday morning cartoon villain god. He was dumb as fuck, barely did anything and most just pushed him around and he couldn't do much about it because he was low tier.

If you're a god who can shapeshift into anything and you don't really have a normal form, would you be a furry?

>>51294935
Why not both?

Also most of the furry hate is because the community is frequently cancer.

Which is less and more true now as it's grown so fucking HUGE over the years.

It's just a group of people with a predisposition to knots and immaturity.

Fuck, they may as well be boys scouts.

>>51295221
Ares is the guy in the trenches, and the bullets in the trenches, and the trenches themselves; ugly, brutish and dangerous, and destroys everything around them.

Athena is the generals and the politicians and the proud leaders who smile and shove around those who actually fight and remain gleaming and pristine and gets praised for her beauty and intelligence.

It's not surprising the greeks praised the second and not the first. Keeping soldiers down and leaders praised and beyond reproach is important for most cultures.

>>51295190
Dude, Hermes wore more hats than the Jagermonsters. There's even a version of him called Hermanubis because the Egyptians likened him to a grim reaper figure.

But yeah. That is a good question. I'm sure there must be a few in Far East mythology; those dudes have gods and spirits fire everything.

>>51294653
Tezcatlipoca is the reason 3/4 of the previous worlds before our own ended. He got pissy when he was deposed as the first sun so he had jaguars eat the world, he turned all the humans of the second into monkeys because they were too decadent, the third was destroyed in fire by Tlaloc which wasn't the Smoking Mirror's fault, and the fourth ended because he was so mean to Calchiutlicue who was that era's sun she drowned the world in tears.

Our own world is supposed to end in jaguars and earthquakes and eagles so I bet he's involved somehow too

>>51295673
There is also Hermes Trismegitus who was the result of egyptians combining Thoth and Hermes. Some texts, mainly the Corpus Hermeticum, are atributted to Hermes Trismegitus and as such you can STILL find occultists who revere him

>>51295221
This is most likely a result of the fact our myths we get are mostly from Athenian tradition who had a very obvious reason to not color him well.

>>51291819
Greek gods knew beast was the patrician's fetish.

>>51295221

As I recall, wasnt this because he was the city god of Sparta or something, who preferred oral traditions to writing shit down? And thus all the stories left of him are from rival city states who naturally have no interest in making him badass.

>>51295881
>Our own world is supposed to end in jaguars and earthquakes and eagles
That sounds like a pretty metal apocalypse

>>51294746
actually Set was the god of the desert, storms, and foreigners

>>51292373
Bob Dylan plz

>>51295221
Ares' cult literally had a ritually involving sacrificing a puppy, he was not a nice god

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>>51297174
I also forgot the tzitzimime star demons, monstrous women who want to descend from the star where they're held at bay by the sun's power and eat us all.

Also the protectors of pregnant women which is kind of nice, but seriously not enough to make up the star monster hunger thing

>>51297294
Hey, that puppy is the way to victory.

>>51297558
but still, when demanding sacrifices what kind of god tells his followers that they have to kill puppies

>>51297621
The kind who is being nice to not demand the ritual drowning of crying children like some other gods.

>>51297406
What's with the snake dick hanging out of her dress?

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>>51297845
Because they come from pregnant women. In that pregnant women during certain bad omen times, like the ends of the year and the New Fire ceremony every 52 (the end of the Aztec century) when the tzitzimime/tzitzimitl were able to walk the earth (sometimes) they could just spontaneously turn into star monsters. The snake is the also-turned monster baby hanging out of her womb

For everyone's safety they were locked in grain silos until the period passes. If they transform, they vanish to the stars where the rest of their kin are. The moral of the story is if you want to have kids, get knocked up AFTER the start of a new year to avoid this risk.

>>51295130
>America was founded by people who were running from a lack of religious persecution

You can't make this shit up.

>>51294826
Hermes was pulling pranks within hours of his birth, stealing his brother Apollo's livestock and killing them to make musical instruments with. Unlike Loki he was never particularly malicious though

>>51295023
It wasn't just to mess with the guy, it was so the rest of the Aesir could welch on the bet they made with the owner of said horse. And they kinda made Loki do it, because it was him who made the stupid bet in the first place as part of another scheme

>>51298515
Yeah you can make that up, because it's made up.

>>51291819
Hades wasnt a perv
The only reason he went after Persephone is because Aphrodite was all pissy he didnt have a love interest and therefore she had no pull with him, so she had cupid shoot him with one of those arrows

>>51295673
Psychopomp was one of Hermes main hats, even in Greek religion part of his job was guiding the souls of the dead down to the river Styx so they could cross into hades. He was very much not grim though or much of a reaper - he wasn't death itself, just the guide that showed you where to go next.

The greeks were also pretty grown up about Gods and stuff, so they came to the conclusion that the gods of other people were basically just the same as theirs, just given funny names because foreigners are weird like that. There was quite a strong interplay between hellenesitc and egyptian culture, so you find lots of the gods getting double names like that, Zeus-Amon and things like that

>>51295023
>>51298886

Then when he got back, having literally taken one for the team, he found that the others had just killed the guy.

>>51298923
Hades and Hephaestus are some of the only reasonable Olympians

>>51295559
You aren't actually that far off the mark for Ancient Greece, but how the fuck did you get that out of the greeks not liking Ares?

>>51299993
Hestia was pretty boss too; I don't know of any myths where she out and out is a cunt to people, despite being related to Zeus "Goose-cock to the pussy" and Poseidon "Lemme just rape this chick in her goddesses temple".

Though IIRC she wasn't technically an Olympian. She just got to chill by the fire and make snide comments at the manchildren.

Patrician Goddess, 10/10, would worship again

>>51292980
What the fuck did Egyptian gods work on?

>>51298006
Someone explain to me why we never had an Aztec themed Souls-esque game?

Because that sounds like it came straight out of Bloodborne

>>51292665
It kinda depends on the god.

Zeus is all about the seduction. He's going to get what he wants either way, but he does like to seduce people into it.

Poseidon's gonna go in dry.

>>51301142
>Poseidon's gonna go in dry.
I thought he preferred things wet

>>51295221
He was actually worshipped as an oath god in Athens. Don't buy into the bad press he gets in like two books of the Iliad, their pantheron is more complex than that.

>>51300682
Deceit and board games.

>>51301059
>having to fight a boss who was a helpful NPC earlier in the game but because of subtle choices you make over the course of play isn't saved from that fate
>having to watch a pregnant woman you are attached to nightmarishly transform into a star-monster you then have to cut down
>unborn-child snakemonster attack from under her shell skirt

I guess it might have been a little bit dark or something

>>51301391
But dude, imagine how cool it would be for the game to have a Heart removal/sacrifice mechanic

Visceral attacks that straight up remove hearts!

Using Death Whistles to buff!

Invading other games using underworld masks.

Sick hoop-ball minigame?

And besides, in Bloodborne could get away with fighting a stillborn Old One fighting you with its own placenta as a weapon, I'm sure the Aztec stuff would.be fine

>tfw you realize the goddess of beauty and love was a male titan dick and everyone wants her

>>51301489
>But dude, imagine how cool it would be for the game to have a Heart removal/sacrifice mechanic
I'm imagining something like MGR's zandatsu. You weaken the armor on enemy chests then do a slow motion targeted carving sequence. Three cuts, open the chest up like a flower!

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What is it with ancient cultures and rape?

>>51292576
>this is Coldsteelios
>likes to rape women, plunder persians and kill babies
>dislikes Aphrodite, Zeus and philosophy
>OC donot steel

>>51301746
I think you can simplify that to the following:
>What is it with people and rape?

>>51292924
Most Greek myths have a moral to them, and the moral of most Greek myths is "people do stupid shit when they're horny."

>>51295221
He's the God of laws and oath keeping.
Also blood vengeance.

>>51301746
It was an aristocratic pastime.

In Saudi Arabia it still is

>>51302099
Also, that the gods aren't infallible and somewhat human in their ways.

>>51292505
https://youtu.be/9qVQcwnuBfU

Ancient societies were smart enough to know that there is absolutely nothing wrong with fucking animals, so beyond putting it in their stories they probably put a lot into their actual sheep and goat herds as well.

>>51302636
The other aspect is that the gods could do whatever the fuck they wanted to and mortals simply were not in a position to object because the gods were intrinsically superior beings. Things like morality or basic emotional maturity were things humans were expected to have, but the gods were so incredibly powerful no mortal could them otherwise, so they did as they pleased and mortals had to suck it up. That's why even Athena, the goddess of wisdom, turned some random peasant into a spider for being legitimately better at weaving than her. She attempted to rival the gods, so punishment was to be expected. Other really obvious examples are Icarus going too close to the Sun or Bellerophon trying to fly into Mt. Olympus. Frivolity and excessive behavior are godly privileges. This is even one of the themes in the Iliad. Achilles' behavior is acceptable because he is closer to the gods than to mortals in temper and power

>>51301746
it wasn't really as punishable as today.

If I remember correctly if someone was punished for rape in myths, it was the victim.

>>51295130
>stay, fight and possibly get genocided by your neighbours
>leave, genocide somebody else weaker than you and take their land instead
Decisions, decisions...

>>51303472
The guy who raped Cassandra was punished.

>>51303472
It was generally punished as taking someone's property and breaking it. Zeus raping your daughter was basically the equivalent of him busting into your house and going full ham on one of your dining chairs before leaving.

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>>51301059
Because Bloodborne took their themes from Lovercraft's mythos and lycanthropy with a not-so-cleverly-hidden allegory to menstruation, which si much more suitable to a more modern day setting.

The problem with Aztec myth is that we simply do not have enough material to work with as most of it is untranslated, incomplete or vague. Then there is the other problem that it is tied to a society and an environment that is a hell lot different from our own. You can fight human like monsters in a castle and a town with some areas being out in nature, but if your game environment is 90% jungle it gets pretty boring.

Lastly it is just "not popular" and we know how suspicious video games companies are with throwing money at uncharted territory ESPECIALLY Japanese game companies, that are notorious of making checklist and textbook games and only changing minor tweaks but adding an impressive look to it. If you want something it has to be at least somewhat popular but the more popular the better.

>>51303881
Technically Zeus raping your daughter could potentially mean that you will be a foster father of a demigod who could become a great mythical hero. This is a good thing right?

Well not really because it will likely also incur the anger of other gods like Hera which is probably a terrible thing because she will fuck up your son/daughter's life and you will probably end up as a prime target for it.

>>51292892
>Listen kids, its okay to fuck a horse if its just for business

>>51295180
Yes, but thing changed when he was assimilated as Mars by the Roman. He went for the god nobody liked to one of the most important god of the Pantheon.

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>>51295180

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>>51305916
It's not the same thing for gods

>>51306348
Let me guess - they all but Ares will die in a horribly, horribly hilarious deaths?

>>51293577
>Emotions are like a force of nature. Humans are stupid assholes that rarely think things straight and react mostly by pure emotions. Strong pent up emotions do serious shit like raise the vengeful dead to haunt or turn people into animals or objects. (or animals into humans)
>Humans in general are submissive as fuck unless you are protagonist or something that generally excepts you from some rules.
This explains a lot about anime. Interesting.

>>51292680
Loki just flirted.
The other horse was the violent rapist.

>>51295180
Athenian detected

>>51300682
Beer and courtly antics

>>51292846
>>51292876
>>51292892
The Gods wanted a wall built to keep out the Giants.
A Giant agreed, but named an obscene price. Gods agreed but with the proviso it had to be built in three days.
First day, most the work was done already because of the enormous horse the Giant had. the book I have even specifically says it's a dragon wearing a horse's hide but every other source I,ve seen just says it's a large horse.
Gods appoint Loki, God of Annoyance, to keep the Giant distracted so he can't finish in time.
Loki tries but fails to distract Giant, nearly everything is finished by now and Gods get really nervous.
Loki, getting desperate, transforms into a beautiful mare to distract the horse who instantly gives chase.
Loki runs from world to world but the horse is always right behind him. He gets tired and the horse finally catches and rapes him.
Because the Giant didn't have his horse the wall wasn't finished, Giant cries foul and Thor offers to discuss things between them and his hammer and so the Giant leaves in disgust.
Loki gets not sympathy, gives birth to his rape baby and gives it to Odin, being unable to care for it himself.
He still gets no sympathy.

Then the Gods wonder why Loki turns around and tricks them into murdering Baldr.

Tl;dr, Loki dressed pretty, didn't give consent and was stuck having to deal with the aftermath himself.

>>51294868
America, literally founded by people that banned Christmas.

>>51300682
Beer?
They literally had to get the Goddess of Murder blind drunk to stop her killing everyone.

>>51303472
Honestly, NOT victim blaming is a relatively modern concept.

>>51293019
>>51293045

Hindu Gods are pretty brotier compared to nearly every other Pantheon.

Also, ridiculous power levels even for the demigods.

>>51294746
In Hindu Mythology, Shiva and Vishnu like Fucking with people but they're usually pretty benevolent about it. Usually.

>>51293225
Those poor blood slaves

>>51295559

Anon you are somewhat wrong. Ares described in classical text as 'mad fulminating ares' was more than war. Ares was rage and bloodlust and cracked skulls, he is the pure white hot flame of boundless anger and fury. He is who you needed to give you that edge in a phalanx to pound the other guys face into a pulp and then slaughter everything they loved.

Athena is (meant to be) nobility and justice in war and the personification of just war theory. Athena is not just about knowing when to fight, she's about knowing when more fighting is counterproductive, she is the wise general and strategist who knew when to stop.

It's not about keeping the people down so much as explaining why. The Savagery of conflict was Ares but the Justice of fighting the good fight is Athena.

That does not mean people followed her example.

>>51307191
>Ares was rage and bloodlust and cracked skulls, he is the pure white hot flame of boundless anger and fury.
Not really, or at least not entirely. Athens did indeed use him as an oath god, it's not uncommon for him to feature in important oaths of the time (e.g. ephebic oath). Where Ares acts in myth he is primarily dealing out justice/vengeance or upholding oaths and laws made by mortals, while by making an oath to bind Ares to the land, he becomes its defender.

The entire conclusion of the Eumenides play by Aeschylus is a mythical allusion to Athens accepting Ares as their oath-god, defender, and enforcer, while resolving the cycle of vengeance, justice, and broken oaths that plagued the house of Atreus.

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>>51291819

>>51307225

...fair enough.

>>51303550
For vandalism

>>51294390
Fuck you coyote is a bro. It's that god damn Raven's fault.

>>51307044
Except for that one time that Shiva got so sick of some demon sacrificing himself to Shiva that he made him immortal and let him spread his tyranny to all of India.

Woops.

>>51292663
>only true love to be that between two men, and considered sex with women to largely be an unfortunate necessity

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