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>>51286885

>charging people to play in his shitty homebrewed shit setting that he's fucking recruiting for

Probably the most offensive thing I can think of within the context of this hobby.

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Here's another campaign

>Meanwhile, the uncaring lumber barons squeeze the common
folk for every last copper, deaf to their pleas.
BEWARE OF THE LUMBER BARONS

>Many are drawn here to make their fortune cutting a swath of darkwood lumber through the lush forests of the vale.
My character will have lost a dear friend to a lumbering accident where was crushed by a tree.

> Here, these fanatics practice their strange and often deviant rites unfettered by the mores of civilization.
So edgy. Hopefully those dirty priests didn't touch my friend's dead body.

>The party has saved some childen, stopped two plagues, the leadership of the town has tried to assassinate them.
W-wait. We wot?

>>51286885
>I am looking for 4-5 players for this campaign but due to me having to dedicated time to running his game will require payment for my time as a Game Master at a rate of 3.00$ Per hour or 30$ monthly(pre-purchase only).

Holy shit how is that real

>>51286885
I got a friend that browses rpol game ads and links me the funnies, it's pretty similar. Although mostly focused on dumb premises for Exalted games, banal WoD games and one "pls pls erp with me" capeshit guy.

>>51287463
>For and extra $20 you can buy the season pass which includes 3 bonus maps and if you buy now, you also get a limited edition cat girl maid companion.

>>51287716
Wait what for real?

>>51287716
>"You ask the tavern keeper for rumors about potential work in the area, he tells you that to unlock the side-quests in this town you need to buy the $15 DLC"

>>51287748
Pretty sure anons are making up extra giggles.

>>51286885
All income is about convincing people to pay you for your services. As someone who makes 7 figures annually through various methods, this is a truth. It's all exactly that ridiculous when you see things how they actually are.

Wanting people to pay you for the shit you do anyway isn't so retarded when people start paying you.

>>51288364
Asking for that amount of cash per amount of work /is/ retarded tho.

>>51288364
Perhaps, but it goes against the ethos of roleplaying games. Players and GM make the game together, and reducing the GM to the sole content provider is wrong.

>>51288364
Wisdom.

>>51288403
Also true.

>>51288403
Eh, ethos.

Main problem is that "cash for tabletops" is that its going to be heavily populated by or shitheads that are utterly unable to get games the normal ways.

Or elitists who are dissatisfied by random GMs - while these can be worked with, they're going to have demanding standards - and how are you going to demonstrate those and attract them?

>>51286885
I found a game where there were two GMs who had DMPCs with the party. Aside from the ERP, when I asked if I could take a sidekick/ally NPC feature for my character, the GM told me straight up "No. We want to play our characters: we don't have time to play the NPCs too."
Since this came from the GM, I found it hilarious.

>>51288545
It really is hilarious.

>>51286885
The only list for this that I can find is from four months ago and dropped the price down to $1 per hour.

>>51286885
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TT_PSuDCsZE&list=PLwMzdusVSJYIifuBlFdXZBrVnd4XOdw4F

Apparently he found some players, since he's throwing videos of it up on Youtube.

>>51289377
Which one?

>>51289379
The one in the OP. Hence why I linked the OP.

>>51289385
I was under impression its several groups.

>>51289405
You think there's several people all pretending to be the same guy running the same campaign with the same incredibly poorly written summary?

>>51289420
No.
Just from OP's bits it looked like two different guys with similar love for biig year numbers - but with different numbers for their different campaigns. Plus a third guy cash-begging.

Hell, even after googling up and finding some meet-up sites showing that the numbers are from the same backtory, they are lacking the mention of cash.

>>51289447
https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/3909987/lf4p-unity-through-dread

Has a mention of cash.

>>51289463
Well ok then.

I don't know anything about headsets/microphones, what's a good one for voice chatting?

>>51286885
Reading roll20 games is the funniest thing in the world. I still remember that faggot from back in the day that wanted "heavy role players" and then when people started responding to him, he started rejecting every game system that had any kind of mechanics.

Then he made a game that apparently used mechanics from every single system ever, but all his players ditched the game after a session.

It was so bizarre. I thought that at the time only me and a couple guys from another game on the site were watching the madness unfold, but a lot of people know about him. More than the guy that plays an edgy navy SEAL in every WoD game.

>>51289610
your phone and some earbuds.

>>51287050
That's actually part of the official pathfinder setting. Look up Falcon's Hollow and the scenarios that are about it.

>>51286951
>6 Players (0 Open Slots)

It worked.

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>Time and Date is potholder for now.
>Everyone are at their home, enjoy their free time... then the man knocking your door and leave the blue letter. The blue letter reveal; Your (Childhood, member of family, new or old friend but she can't be your lover, however you may try win her heart to become your lover.) Lady Delta Neitue invite you to her homeland: Bluefiled Seaside, for her 18th birthday party and allow you stay at her mansion for week... in exchange you will help with her artist's block. Bluefiled is seaside town and it's famous for most blue landscape and blue flowers and herbs.
>However; after her birthday party... Delta Neitue don't feel as well, go sleep early. Next day, Delta find herself unable to get stand and start drink much water to stop the rush that look like scales.
>Her family's best doctor unable identified what kind of sickness she have... until her grandmother realize this sickness; "It's not sickness... it is the curse of King Sea god!" Her grandmother had no choice but ask you and the rest for help, however; you have one week and will you survivals the curse, bandits, crazy cult, haunted places, heavy rain, and madness?

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>>51288403
>Wanting to be compensated for the time you spent babysitting 4+ adults.
>Against the Ethos.

>>51290615
That was painful to read.

>>51286885
sauce on the image?

>>51290615
Link to the page?

>>51290773
>look for people to play in your game
>expect to be compensated for your time
>by them
>the people you want to join your game
Why do people always pretend to be retarded just so they can argue against something?

>>51286885
>will require payment for my time as a Game Master
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>Want to play M&M
>Wednesday is only day off
>Check R20 every other day
>This creepy fucker is the only one who has a game

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66259/m-and-m-electra-woman-and-dyna-girl

I'm sure he's the same fuck who posted the "Female characters wearing only latex or body suits!" M&M game a week ago that got taken down by the mods.

I just wanna play a kid who hunts aliens with psychic his powers.

>>51288545
How does a game with 2 gms work?

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>>51287716

>>51289463
My mind is full of fuck after reading that synopsis.

>>51291103
They probably switch? One GMs first week, the other GMs the second?

>>51290874
I mean, sure, if you're playing with a group of friends, charging them for games is kinda shit (expecting them to chip in for their share of the snacks is totally okay though).

But if your running for a bunch of randos, then why shouldn't you be compensated for the time your taking out of your week to run a game for them?

>>51291399
This

>>51291407
But that dude was searching for guys to play in his game. Charging people to play in your game is just ridiculous.

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>>51290615
wat

>>51287754
I legitimately laughed aloud, good show anon.

>>51291103
I once have been a GM in a dual GM (short) campaign.
I was handling the general narrative and dice rolls, the other GM focused on adding player-specific experience (we would have players split from the main party at various poont of the story, and he would take them to another table to handle their part).
It's tricky to handle, wouldn't do it again, took additional preparations, but I guess it was worth doing it since the players liked it

>>51290871
Ditto

>>51291684
That happens here in the Philippines, sadly. Mostly in LGS's, but like a week ago some dude was asking for players to join his game, goes on to describe his prep work, etc. so he was going to charge a fee. I mean wtf man.

>>51290615
I just imagine that the person who wrote that is 14 (max), and I'm fine.

>>51289463
3 years of work, for a campagn. People make full on rpg systems on shorter time.

Just imagine the first time player says something that the three years of preparation hasn't taken into consideration.

>>51292197
Going off the rails?! PREPOSTEROUS!!

>>51292211
I should make a campaign set in a train, fully. Just so I could make shitty jokes about railroading.

Though, then any player worth a damn would then do their best to ether get off the train, or stop or derail it.

>>51292245
I was thinking that I would like to run a game where an arc would have the players on a train. Perhaps even have them start on a train full of hostiles and they have to kick ass as a group to get out alive and shit.

>>51291103
I co-DM'ed a short game over the course of a thanksgiving break once. We basically split the prepwork for each major encounter between us, and then played off each other as resources during the fight. We'd trade off boss rolls, number crunching, and any encounter with more than one enemy had us doing silly voices back and forth as a comedy routine. It was great.

>>51292197
The more time you put into making a campaign perfect, the quicker the party will find a way to irrevocably derail it. That's why in the last game I GMd the plot was so minimally planned, just a skeleton until I realized what the party wanted.

>>51292245
I could almost see some kind of modern rpg using a train for a gauntlet-style dungeon.

>>51292245
I once did run a game set on a train, with the rails going high above the clouds.

There was a bomb in the train. The players either got rid of the bomb and bombers or died trying.

For some fucking reason they really liked it without a hint of sarcasm.

>>51292483
Stop talking about trains, I'm imagining a Baccano!-inspired campaign about the Flying Pussyfoot part now...

>>51292522
That's the idea, you know?

My thought was a train packed with mob and the players have to kick some ass, as well as be careful not to get picked off by the monster stalking the train with unknown motive.

Probably best played in GURPS or something.

>>51292565
Even better, the players are the train's staff, and must manage to reach destination inspite of the gang war and psychopath trying to hijack it...
...
Nah it's just unwinnable

>>51292211
>tfw I know a guy who once told me unironically that the game he had planned would last exactly 35 sessions and that he considered every single X factor

>>51292605
I knew a guy like that too. Though I just abandoned ship when he told me that sometimes things happen because the story wills it (cutscenes, if you will)

Since I think that it's bullshit and I put a lot of value in player agency/liberty, I decided not to continue playing with him.

>>51292605
When someone says things like that, you know you WANT to play it just to see how bad you can derail it.

>>51292632
For my case, the guy's games never last longer than 4 sessions before he loses vision and gives up, which at that point he either goes "yeah I don't think I'll keep doing this one" or just sabotages his own campaign and gives up

>>51292245
SNOWPIERCER RPG

>>51288403
The point of a paid DM is that you are paying someone to put up with your bullshit, come prepared and on time, with the personal skills to run the game. For someone that isn't a friend, time is money.

>>51292245
If you really want to play the railroading jokes up the goal of the PC should just be to literally derail it

>>51292678
That would be DELUXE

>>51291103
Either a combat DM and a storytelling DM, or a game with two major enemies of the party who are also hostile to each other.

>>51286885
http://rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=3&ti=15675&date=1484582398

>>51286885
...why would he mention something that happened 90k years ago? Doesn't seem very relevant to me.

>>51294220
Because he cares more about his worldbuilding than actually running a game, anon.

>>51292598
Oh they just have to be badass enough.

Let them play like a whole crew of Batmans.

>>51290929
>I'm sure he's the same fuck who posted the "Female characters wearing only latex or body suits!" M&M game a week ago that got taken down by the mods.
Reminds me of this guy on rpol too
http://rpol.net/display.cgi?gi=3&ti=14630&date=1483050046
He also had attempted to run MNM games with /mandated/ fanservice on female supers; with matriarchal justice league and so on.

>>51287716
I just spit out my coffee

>>51288364
But, there is a kind of audacity in suggesting people should throw money at you so that you can pretend to be their friend and participate in a RPG experience with them, especially when we know nothing of this person's qualifications or capacity to deliver anything beyond what other people provide for free.

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>>51294433
Fuck, why not just go to an ERP forum at that point?

>>51294499
>suggesting people should throw money at you
He's just throwing it out there; he's not campaigning to be tax-funded or anything.

>>51290874
People who GM are 100% down with babysitting as long as they get to tell you a story/make you fight monsters.

>>51286885
Anyone has a link to the thread about the GM that wanted his players to sign that they lose all rights to their characters so he may use them for his novel?

>>51294529
Sure, I don't think it should be banned or anything.

It's just reads to me a little like someone going to a bar an announcing you'll be willing to have sex with any of the hot chicks. Like, really dude?

>>51294560
Better than the GMs who don't tell you and just straight-up steal your characters.

>>51294560
Oh man I remember seeing shit like this, not on roll20 but on Giantitp play-by-post. It was a long while back.

The retardation behind the idea is staggering.

>>51287786
app.roll20
.net/lfg/listing
/56599/monster-squad

That's the lumber baron one


app.roll20
.net/lfg/listing
/66394/unity-through-dread-sat-2pm-est
Here's the one where the GM wants you to pay him.

>>51294624
Yeah, but that guy was something else.

He had formatted his request like an ironclad legal document.

>>51294674
That's pretty nice of him. Like I said, he's actually trying to take the players into account a little by making sure they understand what they're doing there, whereas more unscrupulous GMs will dupe you into thinking you'll get to play with them.

I should know, I was victim to one of them.

>>51289862
Even with the hilariously retarded lumber baron premise?

>>51294285
>Supers RP where everyone has one of the strengths of Batman

Interdasting

>>51287716
>$0.99 gets you a setting-innappropriate hat of your choice, such as a firefighter helmet, captain's hat, cheese hat, or animal mask
>for an extra $0.99 your hat is upgraded to count as a helmet for armor purposes
>with the purchase of 30 hats, your character unlocks the Box of Hat-Holding, allowing him to ignore the encumbrance value of his hats

>for $19.99 a month, you may unlock the Saucy Bard DLC, enabling your character to seduce select NPCs in-game for unique benefits
>for $49.99 a month, you may unlock an in-character romance option with exclusive content

>you may buy Platinum Gold at a rate of $0.05 per gold piece, which does not count toward encumbrance and may be either used as gold or converted directly to experience points

>>51294666
Yes I meant the DLC jokes being made up for extra giggles.

>>51291729
>fascismo e libertà
now that's unexpected

>>51295483
I know right? Who would ever say that fascism is freedom?

Nutjobs...

>>51292268
I think final fantasy did that
>>51292463
>using a train for a gauntlet-style dungeon
adventure time did that

>>51294624
What if the gm takes inspiration from the character and reworks it entirely, but it's still kinda obvious what the inspiration was?
What if the gm and player built the character together?

When did paid gming become such a huge topic on /tg/? I've seen 2 discussions about it today, and was on one a couple days ago

>>51290824
Looks like Rustle

Hope you enjoy being on a watchlist

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>>51295886
>being this unfree

>>51290615
>Granny tries to blame it all on King Sea God
Granny, as though it wasn't obvious that you're a prawn of Emperor Ocean Deity.

Someone post that one cringe game. It was called something like "The Initiation" where the guy had some 30 campaigns he was going to be running but you had to play through a trial campaign to prove your worth first.

>>51290615
>>51290871

Found it!

app.roll20.net/lfg/
listing/66433/ghastly-affair-rpg-curse-of-the-bluefiled

>>51296215
But that actually makes sense.

If you're going to be playing with someone long term, you're going to want to make sure they fit in with what you're looking for before adding them to the group proper.

>>51296267
What part of "30 campaigns" did you miss?

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>>51294502
He actually does go to 2 ERP Forums. I know because i've seen that dude around. And the dude from the R20 game is the same guy from Rpol, Minioch. He has some bizarre fetishes. I've read his threads on the forum I go to and I always wonder what the fuck is wrong with him.

Don't judge me.

How the fuck do I find a good game?

At least with shit like roll20 you can the autism right away.

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>>51296302
And when I say that his ads are like

>Please send me a PM if you are interested! Please do not reply here.

>The characters could be video game type characters in the vein of Dragon Quest or Final Fantasy, with mine serving the role of the "fanservice." Otherwise, an anime or superhero setting would be a good fit.

>I want to play a female character in an RP who powers up using Wedgie Acceleration -- grabbing her panties/leotard/swimsuit and calling out, "Wedgie--" and then saying "Acceleration!" at the same moment she jerks the material tight up her ass to become more powerful!

>If you're interested in further discussion, please send me a PM!

>>51287716
I seriously want to do this. an RPG campaign with DLC.

>>51296370
>you can the autism right away.
riiiight

>>51292245
Look for the Train setting in the 4plebs /tg/ archives, there should be a few threads about it. I think it went to shit later on but the idea was the train was infinitely moving, the passengers were like souls condemned to hell or something. It was kinda cool.

>>51296370

I managed to snag my way into a decent group with a pathfinder post in gamefinder.

Turns out that 2hu and some other /pfg/ lewdposter were so autistic that the GM was so impressed by my normalcy that I was given a quiet private invite to play simply because I didn't have an anime girl avatar on discord.

Basically, give it time and B urself.

>>51296433
To be fair anyone should be normal compared to someone like 2hu.

>>51296433
Dang. When was this? Did you post as a player or did you just hop into a discord?

>>51296253
I'm willing to give this the benefit of the doubt and assume it's a non-native english speaker

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Roll20 is pretty awesome, and while finding good games is hard, it isn't impossible. Still, the amount of concentrated cringe and laughably stupid games/game ideas is priceless. Sad, but priceless.

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>>51289377
>"i'm a good gm pay me to gm for you trust me you won't regret it"
>even when alone and talking to himself he's awkward, quiet, stuttery, and doesn't sound older than 19
>intro video looks like a bizarre egopiece from second life

>>51296464

Hopped in on a random post.

>>51286885
You want cringe? I got you senpai.
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo

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>>51297221
Holy fucking shit
it's like the biggest turboautist on /pfg/ decided to make a game

>>51297221
That is just fucking awful, but awful in a "where the hell does he plan on going with this" kinda way. Like what does he really hope to accomplish with this story?

>>51297288
I'm pretty sure /pfg/ is behind it.
Man, what the hell happened to that place? Just back in 2015 when I tried (and quit) Pathfinder it was decent enough.

>>51290615
This looks like someone who played Darkest Dungeon, and said "Yeah, I can do that."

>>51297221
Fucking Kitsune

>>51296387
W-Acceleration is an actual thing in a mange/anime Keijo that is that makes sense in context... But the way this guy is misusing it is sick.

>>51297497
The guys avatar on the forum is from Keijo, but he basically just has a huge (granny) panty fetish.

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>>51297511
That man has serious problems.

>>51297221
We could condense this down to concentrated autism and weaponize it. THINK OF THE POSSIBILITIES!

>>51291103
I did this with a friend once. Basically we each had the party hang around a city and we each prepared stuff that would happen and parts of the city independently (With some communication of course). Then we ran it together and the current place/event would dictate who GM'd.

>>51297497
In what context could that possibly make sense?

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>>51297735
Like most Japanese media, I can't explain because giving proper context would require a lot of explaining. Let's just say that the manga/anime revolves around the sport of Keijo, which is pretty much sumo wresting/king of the hill on a platform floating in a pool. The objective is to push the opponent off, but you're not allowed to use your arms or legs.

And giving yourself a wedgie to decrease friction and subsequently move faster makes far more sense than having a possessed butt.

I didn't write it.

>>51294560
>>51294624
I admit that if I like a PC enough I'll use them as an NPC in a future campaign, but always with the player's permission, and never for anything I'm going to profit from. People are usually cool with it because it's a fairly reasonable thing, but I feel as though if I tried to get them to sign their character rights over it'd just make it fucking weird and awkward and I wouldn't blame them for turning me down.

>>51292245
>>51292268
>>51292463
>>51292483
>>51292565
With all this train talk going on I'm reminded there is currently a pilot for a cartoon that may just fit the bill...

Infinity Train: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY6kfVWv01k&ab_channel=CartoonNetwork

>>51297221
It's just concentrated /pfg/. Not like they're rubbing it in anybody's face, and they're very clear about what the game is about from the outset rather than springing it on some poor unsuspecting sod from nowhere.

It's not something I'd ever play in a million years, but I'm not exactly seeing why it should be reviled.

Has anyone seen the infamous Groundhog Day style games?

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>>51299537
Go on...

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>>51299537
>>51299627

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>>51299537
>>51299627
>>51299644

>"Hey guys, heard about this thing?"
No, it sounds interesting. Please do tell!
>leaves

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>>51297735

On paper it's a show about a ladies only version of water sumo that only allows tits and ass to be used for attacking.

In reality it's about bullshit powers themed around tits and ass to the point where any sort of fanservice falls to the wayside as things descend into crazytown. Considering the show has things like hypnotits, possessed asses, kinetic energy nullifying squishy butts, Rogue from X-men but with butt techniques, and nipple throws, the wedgie speed boost is on the lesser end of crazy.

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>>51299953
Have faith fellow Anon...

On a related note I recall from days of yore someone describing a Groundhog Day style game of Everyone is John.

Behold its glory in the image provided as we await the return of >>51299537 for story time!

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>>51300201
What's weird for me is I hardly notice the fanservice stuff at this point and instead just usually see it as a standard sports anime...

Non is best girl.

>>51299627
>>51299644
>>51299953
It's not really that interesting. Just playing the same goddam dungeon over and over again every time a single party member dies. Now imagine that limitation in a dungeon that makes Tomb of Horrors look like a day at Disneyland.
I left at the eight hour mark.

>>51295886
Thanks a bunch

>>51286885
I wish I had some funny stories to share about roll20 cringe, but the only one I have is from the one time I tried to put together a game for randos and isn't all that interesting.

>make low fantasy setting for Riddle of Steel
>advertise for players on roll20
>one dude seems interested, seems cool
>get 5+ messages saying they'd only join if I ran Pathfinder
>apologize to seemingly cool dude and delete game and listing

>>51301207
I mean 5+ messages from other people

>>51301207
>hey man I like the idea for your game but I'd prefer it if you changed the system to do this one since I'm more used to it and I think it's better.
Nothing against Pathfinder players but anyone who does this deserves a stern talking-to about how rude it is to make demands when you're not even in something yet.

>>51286885
>30$ monthly(pre-purchase only).

Man, if I could find enough sad rubes to fall for that one.

>>51301851

It's not that hard really. The real question comes down to whether you want to be DMing for someone who would have to pay for a campaign.

>>51292653
This. I'd bring in a character that, while fitting in the campaign, grates against everything the GM is trying to do.

And if he dies, then my next character will be someone who was involved with/affected by the first character's bullshit.

>>51294874
>>for $19.99 a month, you may unlock the Saucy Bard DLC, enabling your character to seduce select NPCs in-game for unique benefits
>>for $49.99 a month, you may unlock an in-character romance option with exclusive content

Minus the prices, I basically run this as satire in my game anyways...

But that's because I'm a smut artist that does it for free.

>>51291729
>that image

holy shit, I'm sold

>>51288364
As someone who has been paid to choke women into unconsciousness on multiple occasions I see your point.

>>51302586
I've been doing it for free all these years

Here's one that was the top listing a year or so ago. As far as I can tell, it didn't last past session 1.

>Star Wars: The Dark Force Raises
>After several bombs went off within the Jedi academy then suddenly Jedi and students have disappeared and reappearing as Dark Jedi with no memory of their past, Its unknown where the go or what happens but with the number of Jedi disappearing it must be discovered what is happening to them.

Don't have a link to it as it was a long time ago, but I just remember the GM seeming completely normal at first til you got to his Homebrew race section. There was almost 30, ranging from Angels, demons, furry races, and my favorite being Hermaphrodite Kitsune with 9 prehensile tails and heterochromia eyes.

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>>51301913
>running this con
>ever actually DMing

>>51291729
>What I Expected: H+
>What I Got: H+

Welp. You bought the ticket.

>>51302314
Putting elements your players desire into game is just good GMing.

>>51288364
While I agree with your statement, it's a fucking game. And a shitty one at that.
It's like if I hung out with someone, and thought they were cool or interesting enough to hangout the again, so I text them and they say "that was a free trial, to hang out again, you will have to pay me $30"
If I wanted to pay someone for their time, I would hire a fucking prostitute. That said, I have paid my friend his days wages to go in a trip with myself and several other friends, more because he needed the money while simultaneously needing to escape his life for a bit than I needed to hang out with him.
But as a man who once paid someone $300 to hit to hit them with a barstool 3 times, I completely agree.

>Used to be a fuckboy DM slumming around Roll20 for randoms to run my campaigns.
>Had to spend weeks interviewing players and then suffering through flakes and fights during the game.
>Became a D&D Twitch streamer.
>Now the people I work with are professional entertainers and I never have to worry about flakes or people making shit games or characters.

>>51296302
Oh wow. What forums? More examples of his desperation?

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>Prepare one-two "sessions" of content at a time during the week if I feel its needed.
>Start off with a small over all plot of what I want to happen but never write it down so I follow it very loosely at best.
>If a player ends up wanting to do something I wasn't ready for I let them know but I don't mind doing what they have in planned as long it doesn't sound to far fetched
>I still have some fun and it feels like my players enough them self's

I don't think I'm a good gm but do people really do that much prep-work? Like I don't even make up npc's unless I feel its really needed.

Also as much as I really want to be a player I don't like the idea of some one paying me to gm even if I wasn't shit I do get some joy out of doing it and trying to have fun with my players. So adding money in the mix doesn't feel right at all. Where being a player and having pay someone to gm reeks of distrust and makes me really uncomfortable. I don't mind and even did give gifts to my gm's as thanks but knowing that if I don't pay them next week means they just won't run feels a bit fucked.

I rather have a poor or mixed quality game with people who wants to have some fun or work together over a high or a really high quality game because at this point I don't think the gm really cares about what happens because as soon money becomes a question they will dip.

>>51305782
*I still have some fun and it feels like my players enjoy themselves too

>>51305782
>Not giving players supporting NPCs who they can have meaningful interactions with and who can help the PCs in little ways to change the setting as they explore it
5/10 see me after GM class

>>51305831
I'm not that guy, but you still don't prepare those.
You throw them a bunch of different options, see which ones they like most and /then/ progress with those.

>>51289862
It's one of those "Come to Falcon's Hollow, it's a great place, we'll give you work and food and all that great stuff"

Then you get there and you discover that you're paid in Consortium Funbux rather than gold, there's a whole bunch of hidden costs and shit where they take away what little money you have and of course they make sure you sign contracts in obtuse lawyer-speak to ensure that they practically own you.

Then they send you off, force you to work insane hours with sub-par tools in dangerous parts of the woods full of pissed off fey and dangerous animals and the best part is they effectively have your family hostage because they're living in the town owned entirely by this company while you're working..

>>51304596
How many viewers you guys get? My group was interested in the idea, but I'm pretty discouraged at buying a streaming and audio setup for 3 viewers.

>>51305831
I dunno what to say I make a few npc's to support them in ways they might be lacking and if they do want to speak to them or do other things I don't shy away from that at all but I try to keep it to a pretty small list unless at some point they liked some random person I made up at the time and then I give them a face and a name. I can see how this can be bad for world building.

>>51300282
i hate how people call it "fanservice" when it happens in the first episode of a single season series with 12 episodes. How exactly is it "fanservice" when the show/ character doesn't have any fans yet? wouldn't it just be sex appeal then?

>>51306039
Yeah, you're not a good dm.

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Which one of you ordered a hot pile of shit? Cuz I've got something to deliver.

>https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4519566/lfgm-looking-for-flexible-and-experienced-gm

>>51306955

>click on profile

>
I love to play table top, but sadly my group is on hiatus for dnd for now, so maybe ill have some fun here. I am 24 and get along well with most people. In real life i would say my alignment would be Chaotic Good. I love wolves and am open minded.

>I love wolves

WHY IS IT ALWAYS LIKE THIS

>>51288403
>"Players make the game"
>Implying players aren't all retarded feces-flinging cleverbots pretending to be people

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>>51307042
>In real life i would say my alignment would be Chaotic Good.

>>51294728
>Even with the hilariously retarded lumber baron premise?

Why is that any more retarded than a lich?

>>51307400
Undead superwizards are cool.

Angry Canadian nobility ain't.

>>51288401
>Asking for that amount of cash per amount of work /is/ retarded tho.
With 4 players, it works out to $12/hour. It's better than minimum wage, but not exactly great. And that's before you consider taxes and the prep work.

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>>51306955
>Looking for flexible and experienced GM

All we need now is a 20fag to tell her that he has been playing for a decade AND can fold himself backward to lick his own taint.
Consider yourself trapped!

>>51288403
Look, just like some guys can get sex for free and some depend on Hookers, some players are just so shit they depend on Hooker GMs.

>>51305875
Right now? Between 40 and 100 average.

I've had some shows hit 750~ with certain guests or front-page placement.

But getting there required a shitload of work, grinding every day, and working my ass off to make connections and promote for the last 6 months.

If you just have a random group of fuckos and you think "I kinda have fun so maybe people will want to watch us?", don't do it. You will fail. The ONLY way to success is to have a group of trained or aspiring entertainers, not random schmucks playing a game of D&D together.

Ideally, be an established content creator yourself, and THEN get into streaming. But if you just try and start from 0 like everyone and their mother is doing now, you'll get nowhere.

>>51305276
Elliquiy and bluemoon roleplaying

>>51289377
So I have lost it at vampires discussing something with skeletons, but the awkward enjoy at the ending takes the cake.

>>51304553
>But as a man who once paid someone $300 to hit to hit them with a barstool 3 times, I completely agree.

You can't just say something like that and not explain it.

>>51307411
>implying

>>51290615
Honestly, this isn't the worst post I've ever seen. Sure, it's practically illegible and speaks poorly to the dm's intelligence, but look at all the other bullshit games you've played in your life. The dm is reaching out and setting clear but fair guidelines to organically bringing the characters into the narrative. Doing a favor for a close friend is a pretty attractive deal, and the artist block aspect adds some flavor and personality to the person you're trying to save. The King sea god this is a bit melodramatic, but I'm sure we've all had our faces rubbed in worse by some GM overly excited to have a captive audience for whatever he thinks is the coolest. The biggest problem is how does this dm expect ANYONE not to be busy as fuck on potholder every week.

>>51313217
>potholder every week
It spreads.

>>51307411
That's a shitty attitude. An X Baron can exist for anything. It's a common term. If there's wealth in it, there is a baron of it. And given that fantasy lore is chock full to the gills with magical forests, haunted forests, etc. etc. it makes absolute tons of sense that there's a fortune to be made in the woodcutting business.

Hell, just look at the Amazon. Tropical hardwood is such good business that all manner of shitty practices crop up. Loggers killing entire tribes of indians through disease and violence. Illegal mining operations starting up because there's also gold in the Amazon. Entire illicit towns with names like "La Mal" sprouting up to support the uncouth miners and lumberjacks with cheap alcohol and whores.

This shit you're ridiculing actually exists IN REAL LIFE.

>>51287050
>BEWARE OF THE LUMBER BARONS
This doesn't bug me. Any profitable industry where you get a few rich dudes on top who can be called robber barons is pretty legit. Railroad barons and sugar barons don't sount too threatening on paper either but one of those are a classic western villain and the other basically controlled the colonial American economy from across oceans. Colonial Americans had a rum problem

>>51313457
I'm not saying it's unreal, I'm saying it's lame.

>>51313594
Point is, your reasons for saying it's lame are really fucking stupid, and you're pretty much the only person who even thinks it's ridiculous.

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>https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4522814/2-3-players-looking-for-a-paid-dm-to-run-storm-kings-thunder-gmt-plus-3
>actively looking to get scammed

W E W
L
A
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I mostly do play by post, so no roll20 for me. Bad internet.

BUT You guys ever go on rpol just to browse the adult game's cast listings? I find there's usually some really good autism in there. Super try hard descriptions and some really odd shit. The adult game premises are weird in themselves though. Come to hell, where we'll suck your dick. Come to the farm, where we'll suck your dick. Come to the nightclub, where we'll suck your dick.

Also, if there's anyone else who uses rpol, can I ask wtf is the deal with that semi-freeform football game I always see advertised??? I clicked on it cuz the premise was so weird and it looks like it's only the GM in there playing with his own NPCs.

I have lots of stories but I don't think you guys would find them as funny as I do. it's mostly being weirded out by furries and people who write smut in general. I saw some funny shit.

This one guy made his own 3D model of a little boy/lion kitsune mix thing in some smut furry game... Like the dude made his own fucking model. The idea of him sitting there rendering that shirtless little purple lion kid just cracks me up man, but whatever floats his boat I guess.

Some super weird sperg joined my friend's game. Mentioned how hot his character was in his posts all the time, hulked out on a girl in ooc and we had to kick him. I have another story about a player who moved into my GM's house and wouldn't leave. I felt bad for the guy.

>>51313644
If your choices for a plot is to fight a crazy powerful undead wizard and go stop woodcutting and you choose the second, then you're the stupid one, familia

>>51313852
Bro, you're everything that's wrong with this hobby. Consider stopping and going back to playing MMO's.

>>51312831
Not much to explain.
Bucktoothed junkie was bothering me, so I said I'll give you 300 dollars if I can hit you with that barstool 3 times. They agreed, so I hit them with the stool, and then they probably went to buy heroin.
That's the gist anyway.

>>51313841
>a player who moved into my GM's house and wouldn't leave
I...what?

>>51294550
This. People who want to tell stories and/or watch players squirm will gladly do it for nothing as long as everyone shows up and they don't need to provide anything else.

>>51292245
Chaosium beat you to it. Horror on the Orient Express.

But trains are cool, so run one anyway.

>>51305871
I think you're letting reality sink into your game a bit too much there bud...

>>51290615
>he wouldn't like Peter Chimaera as a GM

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>>51307305
I'd pay $5 a session to get a DM to do this unknowingly and watch as they are driven to the brink of whatever sanity they may possess.

I'd be especially interested to know how they would react when they learn their players weren't even real.

>>51307749
>can fold himself backward to lick his own taint.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5HOt0ZOcYk&ab_channel=AdamGardner

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>>51317215
I've run games where the players could consult a "wise oracle", who was really Cleverbot.

Cleverbot sent them on some /very/ dickish quests.

But of course, it was all a metaphor in the end.

>>51314006
>Liches exist in every game
>Liches are cool and not done to death
>Lumber barons aren't liches
>Lumber is entirely mundane as is its barons

Do I have all of my bases covered?
Wait no
>Lumber baron who is a fey which has declared itself the feudal lord of some trees is boring.

>>51313825
Oh wow that's interesting.

>>51287050
I love the idea of a lumberjack campaign about cutting into and exploring a haunted forest.

That could be cool.

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>>51297221

>>51319881

The sad part is that this game, along with the other /pfg/ lewdgames are the most in-demand text games on roll20 and /tg/ right now.

>>51319949
None of these people are completely new to roleplaying, and that means that the players must have come from inside the community.
If even people who have the opportunity to play normal games flock around this from miles away, it really makes you reconsider whether or not it's a good idea to shit on all "lewd" games.
This board gets weird even when a man wants to play anything else than a human self-insert, a dwarf defined by being a dwarf or the stereotypical cocky rogue, and real-life groups do that too.
Imagine how many people have been clamoring for a game in which they can actually, you know, roleplay - make up a character and play them, regardless of who they are in real life. This board can be hostile as fuck against people who actually want to roleplay instead of just hit numbers against each other, so it's no wonder that these people are flocking to the /pfg/ game even if it's a shitfest.
If people were actually allowed to roleplay even a character of a different gender without having a whole thread's worth of people call them mentally ill and telling them to kill themselves, then maybe they'd be able to get roleplaying done without having to resort to extreme bets like this.

>>51319976

It's not just the 'lewd' thing that attracts people.

It's also the fact that it's pathfinder, which is like the #2 most popular game, and that it's a text game, and there is a silent majority of people who want text games, but nobody wants to run them anymore.

Honestly, I'd have applied to these too solely for the roleplaying opportunities, but they are way too optimization-heavy, and way too lewd-focused, and especially way too girl-on-girl focused for my tastes. I came into tabletop FROM ERP, and that is mostly due to me becoming bored with ERP in general.

>>51296630
Sieving is required as is reading some obvious red flags they sow. The ones I've found to be are:
>A good heaping of typos indicates a lack of English skills or immaturity, usually
>Pointing out that this is your setting in other manner than "homebrew setting" or through contextual ques means they want to jerk over their own setting (see the guy who starts his blurb with "This setting is my brain child from X years ago)
>OWoD or CoD
>Strict rules about how you should play or who you should play (i.e. "Your father Blobmus Dobmus was found it to be a member of the Kobmus society of criminal nobmus. With your mother Gobmus and sister Tobmus you robmus their qobmus and now you are a player character" type of pre-written backgrounds)
>ERP. It's just not the forum for it
>Sand box campaigns that don't have a defined goal or aren't based on a module or AP (i.e. Do-What-You-Want games)
>Video mandatory games
>A game with Queen-what's-her-name-again in them or associated with them

>>51296429
Sounds like a (fun) ripoff of an episode of Tales from the Darkside i'll check that out.

>>51316946
Pretty sure MotRD did that too

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So, any of you have any recommended GMs for roll20? I think I'll give it a shot, but I don't want to get raped by furfags on session 0.

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>>51321608
>recommended GMs
>roll20

Any decent GMs don't run online, and any decent GMs that run on roll20 don't run many games before switching back to tabletop offline.

Your best bet is look for the listings which are written correctly but not written like a cunt who thinks he's God's gift to GMing.

Also dumping my experience with bad Roll20 applicants. Not sure if this guy was who he claims to be but it's pretty autistic either way.

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I asked him after this if he was who he claims to be and I didn't recieve a response.

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>>51321661
>>51321671
>JimProfitCommunist
>watermelon seeds
>all that brain death

The only good thing I'm getting from this is that I'll have an edge on getting in games due to not thinking with brainfarts.

>>51321739
>>watermelon seeds
what?

>>51287573
Any story?

>>51321792
the second screencap, near the end of the second paragraph

>>51321809
>vampire cyborg
wat

>>51314524
And I thought horrible people like that only existed on the Mr Robot show.

>>51319881
I'd unironically play that desu

>>51322090
Please do. I want to block everyone who applies for it.

Is Roll20 good for anything other than playing with friends who can't meetup (That's my case, each of the players live in different states and shit) ?
Like, seriously, I don't think I've ever seen anyone say good things about a public match or a game with randoms. It always either ends in MAGICAL REALM or shitty DMing.

>>51322311
Because those are the people who talk about roll20. Much like anything it's not as bad as people say and much like everything else on /tg/ they are having BadWrongFun because they enjoy it. I've had good experiences with it, people on /tg/ are just whiny assholes who are only do it to be the next big meme.

>>51322311
I had three good games with randoms.

...In the past 3 years. Still, they were very good games, even if it took them a while to pick up momentum.

The problem with roll20 is that everyone is there and that means even the nasties.

>>51322311
I would hazard a guess to say that one in five random Roll20 players are alright to run a game for. Generally however people that play roll20 public games are those who can't play in real life, which is more often than not social awkwardness.

I've had some good groups on roll20 but also a lot of bad ones.

Good advice for running a roll20 game is make sure to be picky with applications. You can quite easily filter out the undesirables semi-effectively like that.

>>51322363
This. A million times this. The more picky you are with what people you're letting in the game, the more chances you have to spot any crazies and filter up the problem players. It's amazing how many people get instantly disqualified from a game after you ask them a question like "what is a positive RP experience for you?"

I heard stories from a guy in game where he run a game and some guy just sent him for a character a marine that was being trained since he was a child.

>>51322351
>>51322363
One thing to take into consideration, though, is that R20 shouldn't really substitute having a real group to play with. I just think randoms are too much of a hit or miss deal.
>>51322343
Mayn you're high on dope, took me 3 reads to understand that. But I guess you do have a point.

>>51322483
I did it in a hurry. Short answer: Vocal people are those who dislike, especially on /tg/. They just want screen caps of bad applications and games for (you)'s

>>51322525
To be fair, you can't get a good laugh out of a well written application or a genuinely interesting game.

>>51322363
>>51322427
So what are some good questions to weed out shitters ?
And more importantly, how do you weed out a bad GM other than checking if his setting is pure cringe ?

>>51322552
Exactly, which is why we will never see them as a counter argument to the bad stuff. The usual thing what happens on roll20 is you play a short while in a short game with mediocre people and then you never speak with them. Worst case scenario you play World of Darkness on roll20 and come across a good amount of furries. Best case scenario you find a small group of regulars you will play often with.

Though my opinion on these is biased considering that I've only ever played on roll20 and managed to get into a group of people from the same country

>>51322483
You should go for a real group first of all, but it's not impossible to get a decent or comparable group with enough screening for players.

>>51322558
>what systems do you have experience with
you can see if they're a shit with what systems they've played
>what type of game are you looking for from the system we're playing
>tell me about yourself
>given the setting and style of the campaign, do you have any ideas for a character?
>can you get along well with a party of players?

also get them on microphone. If they sound like an autist they probably are.

>>51322558
>>51322710

Also, weeding out bad GMs is a lot harder. Even with a well written listing on roll20 half the games will still be awful. Trial and error is the only way really.

>>51319881
Tempting because I'm desperate and bored.
But why QUOTAS?

>>51321661
>trench cuckery
Is that when you circumvent the enemy lines to go fuck their wives?

>>51322889
What an idiot. Doesn't even know that trench cuckery is fucking your trench's wife.

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>>51319998
>I came into tabletop FROM ERP, and that is mostly due to me becoming bored with ERP in general.
Mah nigga!

Although for me, I never lost the spark, and enjoy a good ERP in the background of the game itself either via relations with NPCs or PCs, but not as the focus of the game itself outside of a few rare times.

>>51323013
That's the thing about ERP, as a stand-alone thing it's dumb and boring. ERP is at its best when it has context around it and the characters are developed and have history and personality.

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>>51322363
>I would hazard a guess to say that one in five random Roll20 players are alright to run a game for

That's very generous. I have ~2500 hours logged into Roll20, and I would say maybe 10% of the player base is worth playing with.

The rest is absolute cancer.

>>51323212
This. I play on Roll20, but exclusively with people I know from outside of Roll20, and my games are all private.

Fuck all those goddamn mutants.

>>51322768
>QUOTAS

Is this some furfag thing or some Pathfinder thing?

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>>51323212
>>51323234

see
>>51319881

This is why I only play with IRL friends on Roll20. Holy shit.

>>51286885
>ridiculing people for their escapism fantasies
That's like shaming people for jerking to weird fetishes. I fail to see why a normal and well-adjusted person would care what the others do privately. Kinda pathetic, really.

>>51323013

>>51323034 is right. I primarily left 7 or so years ago because Yahoo RP and my usual IRC haunts died, and F-List got really popular, and most of F-List's crowd don't want setup, don't want roleplay, they just wanna skip right to the sex, and I get REALLY BORED of just thrustposting, and give no shits about fetishes.

There's no eroticism in what the modern lewd crowd wants.

>>51287050
this one sounds fun to me desu

>>51323263
No, I mean, he's literally saying "I want one trap, I want one big tittied girl, I one one medium tittied gir (but maybe allow another big tittied one if it's compelling...)'
Quotas.

>>51323301
Yeah, I got my start...shit. 10 years ago? 11? Fuck it's been a while.

It was on the old Open RPG system. From there, I just settled in with friends I met and kept, and slowly grew out a solid group I still play with, and here we are now. It's story first, but there's not really a limit on sexual stuff 'cause we all know one another's tastes, so no need to worry about fades to black or anything. At most, it's just to keep pacing, and then we go and play out exactly what happened later.

>>51323400

Lucky.

With my current groups, I have no way of breaching that wall. We're too polite for that. And I'm not sure I'd want to breach it, anyways. ERP can make things complicated in ways I wouldn't want for a very stable group.

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>>51323279
But why are you singling that game out? It's being completely open about what it is and the players it's looking for. It's not like it's trying to spring the magical realm on unsuspecting newbies.

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>>51289463
>has less GM experience than me
>mfw when I barely put an hour a week into GMing any more

>>51323462
Yeah, it can be tricky as hell to bring up with new people.

>>51323212
>>51323234

Roll20 is far from being completely devoid of any good players. You can still find the same quality of players on Roll20 that you can find in real life, it's just you can't go adding anyone that applies for the game like a retard.

There are still a reasonable amount of players who have for example changed locations and don't have any regular local group to play with, but are still alright to play with.

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>>51297221
So /pfg/ has a roll20 recruitment ad?

Curious.

>>51323492
If you want a truly bad example, I once got in a game of a WoD ST that boasted an open world and meaningful roleplay. First thing he did was confine us in a certain city district under pain of death and all the roleplay was 30 minute exposition monologues from his NPCs. Playing a character that tried jumping off the rails was bad RP according to him.

The good news is that we were just done with his bullshit and after a player revolt, he gave up on roll20.and went on to play with his trains offline.

>>51289377
>He listened back through this audio and thought it didn't need another take

This content offends me as a GM and a video maker

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>>51307042
My real life alignment is Lawful Evil.

I'm honest. With myself.

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>>51319998
>and there is a silent majority of people who want text games, but nobody wants to run them anymore.
We do, actually. But we've just figured out who to avoid at this point.

Literally right now:
<Hawk> "I wonder what the others are up to..."
<Ada> "Hot lesbian sex Ah suspect," Ada says between biscotti.

>>51297221>>51319881

What was #1? Was it just as bad?

>>51324084

It was the same exact game, except that the GM broke down and admitted halfway through that they have never GMed before, and were just in it for lewd touhous and vanished.

>>51324023

>lesbians

It's always lesbians. Nothing makes me cringe harder.

>>51324309
It's a recurring joke.

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>>51297221
>tfw I recognize two friends from the applicant list

>>51324289
...were you in it?

>>51324356

Nope. I might have been interested, but the optimization-heaviness and sheer quantity of applications, and focus on girl-on-girl turned me off.

>>51324356
>>51324586

Oh right, I should add: The game never started. It ended halfway through APPLICATIONS.

Mostly because of the aforementioned stuff, and because the GM was a NEET who started hijacking /pfg/'s OP posts, removing links and shilling his own game in the OPs.

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>>51324606

>>51294499
>audacity in suggesting people should throw money at you so that you can pretend to be their friend
There are dozens of "rent-a-friend" businesses that do exactly this.

>>51324692
How many of them are held in high regard and not considered shameful to engage the services of?

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>>51321608
Is that how a Buer moves?

>>51324692
Normally businesses maintain at least some semblence of quality and professionality. Some guy advertising online without any credentials in what he's asking people to pay for doesn't exactly equate.

Not to mention the idea of renting a friend should be looked down upon even in a place like this.

>>51299028
That was one really fuckin' good cartoon.

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Are there ANY cyberpunk games on roll20?

It's all PF, D&D, WOD and almost nothing else.

>>51325232
There was an Unhallowed Metropolis game advertised at one point. Maybe they're still recruiting.

>>51325264
>Unhallowed Metropolis
Thanks, but that's zombie horror, not cyberpunk.

>>51325336
>read cyberpunk as steampunk

While I go get my eyes checked, you should try your luck posting on the LFG forum. There was already one bloke posting about wanting some Shadowrun. If that was you, then I'm sorry

>>51325232
Shadowrun

>>51321671
Yes, that's actually Jim Profit, he makes shitty incoherent Youtube rants now because he's been banned from basically everywhere.

>>51297339
2hu happened.

>>51321836
Who? People that pay to hit people with stools or people that get paid to get hit with stools?

>>51289377
>Shortly after- shortly after the town became besieged by legions of- GREEN undead..... army, bearing the mark of a RED DEATH, an ancient cult of necromancers which set the town ablaze.
>Our adventurer.... st-starts the party arrives at the gate to the gr-.. great city of Calmengerra... Eennjjooy...

This is comedy platinum.

are there any good guides to mapping on roll20. I made a dungeon using my old go to over at donjon, but I can't get the fucking grid to align.

Now I'm just not sure the most efficient way to set it up and dress it up for my players.

>>51330050


https://www.redd it com/r/ rpg/comments/1bm6co/ i_love_using_roll20_for_gaming_but_i_horrendously/

>>51286885
>Why not just year 300?
The year 142,300 is to show what year it is based on our calendar, the year 300 is the settings calendar.

>>51323953
>Filename "adolfmario"
>Picture clearly supposed to be Mario as Stalin

>>51330050
Buy graph paper and practice building maps, then transfer those skills to Roll20.

>>51331938
Giving purposefully incorrect filenames seems to have been a meme since forever.

>>51329796
He tries to put on a voice, which sounds awkward and I think causes him to stutter. Weird, because it's not like he's acting out someone's voice, he's just introducing the campaign concept.

>>51297221
>>51319881
Is it wrong that I like the giant friendly giant fox spirit and the magic city?

It actually sounds pretty rad. Too bad about the weeb erp though.

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>>51332442
Anything can be rad if you do it right.
I don't think they did it right.

>>51331938
Got me (You)

Goolock with a Gazer as his Chain Familiar.

Broken or not? Eyebeams seem pretty potent as far as combat effectiveness goes, but has nowhere near the utility of invisible, sapient, intelligent stealth monkies.

>>51323324
Oh.

That word looks weird in all capitals.

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>>51324289
>>51324606
Horse shit, that's not what happened, you disinfo-spreading scum.

>>51334470
Oh? Then what really happened, wise guy?

>>51335834
The original Fluffy game didn't have a SINGLE application yet before the listing went down.

/pfg/ bullied the GM into taking the listing down, because the listing was two months away... even though other /pfg/ games had listings even longer away.

>>51321608
My GM is pretty good. He's patient with the autism in my group and lets you drop in and out of the game without notice no problem. But I'm not gonna tell you who he is because then I get less GM to myself.

>>51299028
This was really good. Hope it gets a show.

>>51300211
This is fantastic.

Why is it so many of these games have descriptions that use TVTropes page titles instead of actual sentences?

>>51313217
What are you even calling "potholder"?

>>51337094
Because for the people they're recruiting from also browse TvTropes, so listing the name of tropes is an easy shorthand for descriptions.

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>>51323811
Like me.

And yes, everywhere has shitty groups. My worst ever and best ever were both /tg/ groups for example.

>>51337094
What's /tg/'s problem with TvTropes? I've browsed it many a time, it's certainly a useful tool.

>>51323811
Dubs speak the truth.

>>51338916
Its community can be cringey and embarrassing. Being 4chan, we unironically think that's reason to abandon the site entirely, and some people dislike the categorization and analysis of the things that they break down into terms and references.

Same reason reddit is so uncool.

>>51338916
I haven't been there in ages, but the site really got up its own ass. It used to be pretty informal (they used to say "we're not like 'the other wiki'"), then got quite formal. More than that, it used to also be weeb central. Every entry used to have twice as many anime examples than anything else. Loads of its tropes are anime-exclusive which is kind of shitty when it's called "TvTropes", and not "AnimeTropes".

The way entries work is also kind of "soft", so to speak. I wrote one years ago based mostly on a pun I made, though I suppose it's still actually a real trope, and it's still virtually unchanged (save for the pun, sadly enough) and had examples added as recently as december. The entry itself couldn't have taken more than an hour from conception to finished.

>>51339519
Oh, so 4chan being bitchy that someone thought of the idea to break shit down in a way that 4chan already does, except we record it in archives that can be hard to navigate, and they record it in a better way.
Yeah I don't like their community because it's a little too Family-friendly for me, and they're so concerned with stupid minutiae, but the trope pages themselves are interesting and useful, usually.

>>51339709
Still lots of Anime, but they've gotten the weeb shit down some and fleshed a lot of the pages out more. So, it's changed but you may still not like it I only discovered it last year.

>>51339519
Why don't you stick to posting elsewhere if you're so up set, Troper?

>>51339709
Well, if you want to be really picky, it was *originally* BuffyTheVampireSlayerTropes.

There's been some scope creep.

>>51339709
You can't necessarily blame them for having anime-specific tropes when there are a lot of things different about eastern and western animation. And when those things tend to be really obvious clues into character design, or common cliches. Anime is a part of television too.

They try to have every last little thing specified with its own name. You can't be mad at them for happening to have cataloged out a lot of examples of anything.