Jumpchain CYOA Thread #1294: Harem of Goddesses Edition

>>51274168
And we start with Gaea.

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>>51274177
Do you mean her?

>>51274186
Of course. Best girl!

Is Red's ban over by now?

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>Jumper arrives at final battle just to steal both the Hero and the BBEG's items

How many times have you done this?

>>51274186
Oh look, it's the thread bike.

You can't even deny it

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What are the best perks for bullying?

>>51274316
What video is this from?

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>>51272151
>>51272704
>Meanwhile, IIRC...
Checking my copy of Exalted: The Lunars, I was mostly correct.

He's still got Luthe, but it's just his domain instead a former lover's.

He never took a Solar mate, but does apparently have a few aquatic children guarding his domain. No shitshow of horrors there though.

I also forgot the part where he resisted being turned into a Chimera through sheer willpower, and protected all the western Lunars from that until they created the tattoos.


>>51270888
>>51271586
Alright, here we go... one Mage of Mind for English.

Knowledge of Choice, Logic, and Thought.

First of, they'll probably be able to see the outcome of their own choices, much like Terezi did before stabbing Vriska.

Probably be able to see into your alternate timelines more easily than Terezi's remem8er, though more limited in scope. Like, one timeline at a time, instead of basically all at once, but with more detail/less effort.

Might get mindreading from it, as a literally knowledge of thoughts thing?

And knowing how people act, they'd probably be able to predict your enemies/allies actions with nigh-perfect accuracy. They could probably create logical strategies to counter them rather easily too. Never lose at chess again.

Not sure what else...

>>51274433
Thank you.

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>>51274459
No problem, sorry for the wait.

>>51274363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zC6KcFn87U

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Jumpers! Have you ever stolen... a waifu?

>>51274541
Arceuid? Orhime? Also, all of RWBY?

>>51274476
question what's the difference in power levels between the various circles of souls if you have both, descending hierarchy and Heart and Soul ? I'm trying to get a power level for my Second Circle souls the Starlight Sentinels.

>>51274541
That other statue in the background looks like a bored attendant holding out a towel.

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>>51274541
I can't steal what's already mine.

>>51274316
What do you guys think of a separate jump for some of the Jojo parts? I'd like to make one for Diamond is Unbreakable but I want to hear if it'd be okay before I put in the effort. Jojoanon apparently hates or doesn't want anything to do with the JC community or something last I heard so I can't exactly go and ask them.

>>51274541
nope,And kidnapping is a Damnation offense in my territories so Those in my area of influence Seldom do either.

>>51274620
Obvious Bait is obvious

>>51274620
Well conventional wisdom is that you can make a more specific jump of an existing jump.

Conventional wisdom has... never really worked here when it's come to Jojo.

>>51274628
It's so funny watching you try to blend in and totally fail.

>>51274638
>watching you try to blend in

no, I'm really not.

>>51274628
Bancho fuck off please. Some days literally all your posts read like bait.

>>51274620
I'd say just go for it. If it looks good it will be accepted, and the currenty jojo jump is really general anyway for such a large setting.

>>51274666
it would still be a replacement jump if it doesn't specifically cover the stuff the JoJo jump doesn't which to my understanding there isn't. And we have rules against replacing Jumps without creator permission. Jojoanon leaving doesn't change that

Hypothetically, would an unlimited number resurrections that only proc in the case of a narrow and specific category of deaths be too powerful to offer in a jump?

IE if you die in specific senario X you will revive no matter how many times it happens.

>>51274686
Yes. Someone will always find a way to abuse it and then voila no death ever.

>>51274686
How specific are we talking here?

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After much deliberation, I have decided that Kamen Rider First/Next will only have three origins. On the other hand, i've decided to do double perk trees. Fun?

Rider Potential
100 cp - Motorcycle Master
Everybody needs a hobby, and motorcycles are yours. You’ve got enough experience on them to drive around at top speed on unsafe roads, without using the handlebars to steer. What’s that you say? That sounds more like a world class racer than a hobby? Nah, definitely a hobby. I mean, you only own this one old bike, nothing impressive.

100 cp - I Know…
Kung fu? Rocket science? Acupuncture? Gardening? Congratulations, you know it, and you have a professional degree in it. Or some other form of official recognition, if a degree isnt applicable. Now, go forth and try not to abuse this knowledge. Use it to fight for justice!

200 cp - Rider Kick
Gravity? What’s that? Oh, it’s something that gets in the way of launching a rider kick at your enemies. Well, congratulations, you can ignore it for a few seconds at a time. Use this to jump higher, run faster, and turn yourself into a foot first homing missile. And yet, despite the decreased gravity, actually hitting them will deal far more damage than it has any right to.

>>51274686
I suppose it would depend on how specific those conditions are. Though as you're explaining it, it sounds like it could easily be abused.

>>51274620
I think that, given how things have changed over time, that Jojo would have been split into multiple jumps if it had been made nowadays.

That said, I think people aren't going to be happy if you try to make new Jojo jumps. Not replacing current jumps is one of our oldest rules, and that particular jump has always been a sore spot with us.

If you want to make a new Jojo jump, I'd advise trying to work with some kind of spin-off or derivative work. Maybe one of the LNs or 7th Stand User?

>>51274697
There are already ways of no-selling the death rule anyway. So that's not really anything new.

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Couple questions about the Imperium jump.

Can you chose to become a Custodes when you chose the space marine option?

If you take the Primarch’s Blood perk just how strong would you be in comparison to a Primarch? Also if you got hold of a Primarchs body how hard would it be to replicate the process?

Finally, what would happen if I claimed I found a bunch of STC designs that are clearly not of Imperium design? I kinda wanna give out replicators, SupCom paragons, Gundam suits and Blame! level augments/ weapons. Perhaps something that aids with healing to, might help get the Emperor up and about.

>>51274702
>>51274715
Pretty much this.

"Killed in combat" is way to general. "Killed by choking on your food" is no worse than typical plot armor.

>>51274666
Don't you have to get permission from the original author isn't that the reason people couldn't have made more Zelda jumps until the creator gave permission

>>51274680
You mean like how Justice League Dark replaced the DC comics jump?

You're an idiot.

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>>51274686
I dunno. I mean 1-up Perks are one thing, but infinite lives, even limited like that, feels like kind of a lot.

>>51274707
Three origins and double perk trees. I can live with that.
Oh god, not more Kamen Rider to toss onto the pile. I've got three series after Fourze on there already.

>>51274702
Like,

If you are killed by someone who loves you and doesn't want you dead.

If you are killed by a weapon made from a certian material.

If you die on your birthday (or some other day of special significance)

>>51274739
Problem is I think, that Jojoanon had a decidedly...poor split with the community and that I think the only people who have any way of contacting her also left. It's been years since she showed up for even a few minutes in thread one time and years before that from when she first left. I can understand why they guy might try to ask the thread, even if I don't really think it's a great idea.

>>51274754
but it didn't. It has an entirely different focus, whereas this proposed jump would be covering the same material as the current JoJo jump

>>51274759
No worries, First and Next are only a pair of hour and a half long movies.

>>51274759
I gotta warn you it's all downhill from Fourze, Drive is okay but it's not as good.

>>51274754
Don't bother arguing. It'd be like trying to convince someone who thinks vaccines give autism that they do not in fact do that. you'll get nowhere and it'd be a complete waste of time. Hell you'll probably lose brain cells just listening (or reading in this case) to them.

>>51274764
That's acceptably specific, I suppose.

There's always going to be that one shithead who's going to find some absurdly convoluted way to make every day their birthday, of course. But that's Jumpchain.

>>51274770
The proposed jump would cover a small part of the whole setting. In this case it'd focus on a specific run rather than the setting as a whole.

Just like JLD/DC.

>>51274770
How does the current jump even cover part 4 other then having one of the locations mention it? Do any of the perks in it refer to Part 4? The Jojo jump as is is like the original type moon jump. Looks prettier but it has the same problem of trying to cover a vast series and not doing any of it justice.

>>51274739
It's really more of a guideline than a rule, and a dumb one at that. I know all the arguments against it, and they are all shit. There is nobody who would have the motivation or dive to make replacements for any good or average jumps. But we all know only the shitposter makes these arguments so I'll stop here.

>>51274764
>If you are killed by someone who loves you and doesn't want you dead.
Maybe. I know interjump balance is a bad argument, but this doesn't seem any worse than a general "no friendly fire" perk. It'd make sufficiently pretty jumpers hella hard to put down though.

>If you are killed by a weapon made from a certian material.
Depends on the material, but maybe not too bad?

>If you die on your birthday (or some other day of special significance)
I gotta say no on this one, this seems a bit too much for me since you can very easily plan for it ahead of time and have a large window of opportunity.

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>>51274584
>question what's the difference in power levels between the various circles of souls if you have both, descending hierarchy and Heart and Soul?
Well. Let's see... you've got 3 (or 4) distinct tiers of power there.

First, the Third Circles. They're forces of nature, Creation-shaping beings that are often geography itself.

Fetich/Heart Souls are even more terrible than those, blazing suns that can incinerate armies in a second, mirror universes, or the transcendent music that underlies all things


Second Circle Demons are a significant step down, losing the custom charms that the Third Circles enjoy to leave them only with Spirit charms. Still, they are the Demon Lords, and in Malfeas they rule entire territories of their own. They're creatures much like the gods, not the living geography that are 3rd Circles.

Though at their most warlike, they may still strike down young Exalts (Octavian is noted as having both the largest domain in hell, and has the skulls of three Solars on his belt). And then you have things like deer-footed Mara who's basically a soul-devouring succubutt who brought Sorcery to the Exalted. Or Gervesin who's usually a burning spear that can fly through the air and posses its wielders, but can also take the form of a man. Or Sigereth, who is a small, enameled box carried by a servant... if a mortal bets themself in a game of chance, they're turned into soulless servants (which are themselves 1st Circle demons) if they lose.


First Circle Demons are again a step down, though they still have magic that makes them terrifying opponents for mortals. Blood apes, jade lions, hairless shapeshifting courtesans, dancing pillars of flame, giant sapient spiders, tentacle-deer, and crystalline wasps are all seen here.


>my Second Circle souls the Starlight Sentinels.
Interesting name? Are these an organisation or something?

>>51274804
It has the stand arrow but yeah Jojo is a massive setting and the jump doesn't really cover it.
Jojo could easily be three jumps, Jojo:Hamon, Jojo:Stands, Jojo:Universe 2

>>51274848
Shit, it could easily be 7 jumps. Not all of them equally big of course, I'd imagine 3 and 7 would easily be the biggest, but there's more then enough content.

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>>51274772
Oh, well, I can handle that. I was thinking it was another pair of 48 episode series.

My desire to actually watch/play/read properties, at least a little, before Jumping them is getting me in trouble with Kamen Rider. Still, OOOs and Fourze were both great shows, so it's not a bad thing.

>>51274764

Seems a bit too much no matter what, basically giving people circumstances where they're unstoppable. In the first case, it's not just prevention from dying by friendly fire or mind controlled allies, enemies or neutrals who love you, don't wanna kill you but totally would now can't either. The weapons made of a specific material isn't too bad, but again it's infinite 1-Ups. The third is really not good, as it essentially gives the Jumper ten days in a standard Jump where they can charge into hell itself scot free since they can't be killed. With even a bit of planning, the inability to die is really strong, and in a setting like Jumpchain it's just really. . .eh. There's extra lives, but it definitely seems against the spirit of the chain to give any real way to just make you permanently unkillable in any shape or form, even under specific circumstances.

How effective do you suppose Misc. Meta as a learning booster would be?

I'm not terribly fond of going to Worm early in a chain so I'm looking for alternatives.

>>51274906
Just go back a few threads and look at all the other posts using it as a one stop shop for cheap stuff from other jumps. It's how Bancho designed it to be so go wild. Maybe you can get Accelerators power too.

>>51274906
I think bancho went with 250x but you wouldn't be getting the other stuff like cap breaking and no skill degradation.

>>51274906
2/3rds as effective for two purchases.

How big a boost would a misc meta perk letting you learn faster from other people be?

>>51274906
The one from Fate is by far the best in the chain iirc. It literally turns a month worth of learning into a day or two, I think. It does cap out at like masters level and you get diminishing returns though.

>>51274847
Okay I was thinking is a scaled with you since that's how the perk described it.

so since all of these are scaling with me and I'm now roughly middle of DC cosmic levels so I imagine they are roughly lower DC cosmic

>First, the Third Circles. They're forces of nature, Creation-shaping beings that are often geography itself.

so that's alternate forms for them right? I need to write those up

>Fetich/Heart Souls are even more terrible than those, blazing suns that can incinerate armies in a second, mirror universes, or the transcendent music that underlies all things

Noted, I have to rewrite him than.

>Second Circle Demons are a significant step down

I figured that, I was wondering how significant a step down, where do I find the spirit charms? And what are some good benchmarks for exalted gods?

>First Circle Demons are again a step down, though they still have magic that makes them terrifying opponents for mortals

Okay good to know.

>Are these an organisation or something?

They are the second Circle souls formed by Warrior G so imagine combination megadeus/gundams made of The night sky, Theycame in real handy as backup recently.

>>51274707
Items for scientists. Mostly?

100 cp - All Access Pass
The first thing any good evil scientist will need is a, and thankfully the bases that shocker makes have all kinds of toys for you to play with. Whenever you enter a new city, an agent of shocker will make their way to you, and let you know where the base is, even going so far as to give you a personal tour of the place. Mind you, changing bases won’t let you use things above your paygrade, it will just ensure that you have a lab to work with. If you don’t work for shocker, this comes in the form of said agent accidentally leading you right to it, and a book on breaking and entering.

100 cp - A Field Of Flowers
As a doctor of evil, chances are you squashed your morals a long time ago. Or had them ripped out. But, whenever you feel down or depressed, you will find some flowers. A vase on your desk, maybe a planter outside, wherever they may be, looking at them for a few minutes will leave you relaxed and clear minded.

200 cp - A Bouquet Of Roses
These flowers on the other hand, are pure evil. They come in a set of five, and handing these roses to people will drastically increase their compatibility with the painful modifications shocker will soon be effecting upon them. They’re not foolproof, but they do work. Each bouquet can only be used once.

400 cp - Backup Laboratory
When Kamen Rider inevitably starts to hunt down Shocker, you may find yourself in need a safe place to hide. It doesn’t have the same facilities or capabilities as the main base of your assigned city, or the resources, but it’s got the basics and it’s well hidden. Notably, it comes with the machine used for the kaijin blood transfusion.

>>51274803
Or the new Madoka jump, for that matter.

>>51274916
>>51274921
>>51274940
Thanks.

>>51274620
Go for it. I'd love to see some stuff focused on the parts by themselves. Would prefer Vento over DiC but I'll take what I get.

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>>51274726
>Can you chose to become a Custodes when you chose the space marine option?
Custodes are on a whole different level, so I would say no.

>If you take the Primarch’s Blood perk just how strong would you be in comparison to a Primarch?
I don't know. Maybe honor guard/chapter master/captain level? You would still far bellow them, but maybe you could entertain one for a while.

>Also if you got hold of a Primarchs body how hard would it be to replicate the process?
There is a guy that can do that in cannon. So, if you have enough biology perks, I guess it wouldn't be that hard.

Said guy is also a Chaos Space Marine, so maybe you need some psychic powers to replicate everything about them. Remember that the Emperor used Warp's stolen knowledge to create them in the first place.

>Finally, what would happen if I claimed I found a bunch of STC designs that are clearly not of Imperium design? I kinda wanna give out replicators, SupCom paragons, Gundam suits and Blame! level augments/ weapons. Perhaps something that aids with healing to, might help get the Emperor up and about.

If you mask it well enough? Probably nobody will care. Just stamp an 'human looking' symbol. Men of Iron/Peak Humanity could do pretty crazy things.

They could probably pull out silicon life-forms or Supcom levels of production if they tried.

>>51274686
Most perks that can do that trend to leave it blocked until the spark and just leave a single 1-up per jump.

Occasionally, if it's needed for the setting, you can allow the unlimited resurrection in-setting (ala Sburb).

>>51274697
Well, considering how strong your regeneration can get, and that you can prevent yourself from being affect from conceptual/erasing attacks, killing a mid-tier Jumper is pretty close to nigh-impossible without drawback fiat.

>>51275084
Cheers. I completely forgot that Big E used warp knowledge to make the Primarchs. Although was Dark Age tech really that strong? I mean I know they had weapons that could send stuff back in time but I didn't think that they would have SupCom level production. If they did I don't see how humans beat the Men of Iron, they'd just outproduce then drown them in numbers.

>>51274726
Well, Primarch’s Blood is about raw potential. Chapter masters and the like aren't guaranteed to have that kind of physical power, but they also have centuries of combat experience.

Other than that, >>51275084 hit the nail on the head

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>>51274946
>Okay I was thinking is a scaled with you since that's how the perk described it.
>so since all of these are scaling with me and I'm now roughly middle of DC cosmic levels so I imagine they are roughly lower DC cosmic
Well, yes, they scale. But really only to the heights of the Yozi's 3rd Circles, so basically all of the 3rd Circles would be roughly comparable to the most powerful of the Yozi's normal souls.

>so that's alternate forms for them right? I need to write those up
Yes. Though technically their human(oid) forms are the alternate forms, with the geography-forms being their true forms.

>I figured that, I was wondering how significant a step down, where do I find the spirit charms?
Spirit charms are in Books of Sorcery: Roll of Glorious Divinity I. You might want to look at Roll of Glorious Divinity II too, for examples of Demons.

>And what are some good benchmarks for exalted gods?
I'm not really sure what could be used as benchmarks... Exalted Gods aren't really the most powerful things usually? Though they've got pretty versatile charms.


First Circles mostly Essence 2 to 3 (with some species having 4), with usually better-than-human stats.

Second Circle souls are Essence 6 or 7 (with some rare ones having 8).

>>51274931
>>51274946
Hey bancho did you see my question?

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>>51275133
Well, I don't know either. Considering how many Warp Storm were left at the aftermath of the birth of Slaanesh, maybe that fucked their production as well?

Feral Worlds with the right STC can produce a battleships in a decade without any specialized workers or previous knowledge.

>>51275158
>Yes. Though technically their human(oid) forms are the alternate forms, with the geography-forms being their true forms.
Lets not forget that they can maintain both at the same time.

>>51275158
noted. Thank you for the answers.

also, what are the limits of custom Essence 6 Infernal charms? and if we take orphan cub of the Devil-Tiger does that allow us access to their charms with that would be higher than essence six?

>>51274931
it depends on the number of slots you take, for it, but>>51274916 has it for three slots

>>51275157
I thought Primarchs blood made you closer to the Primarchs than normal marines would be, given that you can gain traits and such of one of the 20 Primarchs.

>you tower over even most Space Marines, and you bear cosmetic similarities to one of the 20 Primarchs.

Guess I misinterpreted it.

>>51275176
Hold on, do Men of Iron still exist? Or was that comic based earlier than then 41st millennia? Damn I might actually have change what I planned on doing and search for them, if any still have uncorrupted or partially complete databases it'd be one hell of a boon. Got a link to the comic, wouldn't mind reading it.

>>51275232
They are very rare and they are hiding very well because they know that when they are found out The planet they are on gets destroyed. plus Tech heretics frequently go out of their way to create them

>>51275133
DAOT was advanced enough to make sure that the Eldar whom were also at their height had a non-aggression treaty. They even had some with Orks. Men Of Iron were defeated by basically what you said, they were zerg rushed. Which with advanced cloning technology used back then it was nothing.

Same technology is used by Kreig. How else you think they raise entire regiments which are easily 10,000+ people each generation? When their homeworld is a radiated hellhole. They're not outright clones, those don't last long because how unlucky they are, but more like accelerated vat-grown humans.

>>51275232
>Hold on, do Men of Iron still exist?
Probably? The Imperium is still discovering worlds that weren't touched during the Great Crusade, and even then, they haven't explored every single world into detail.

>>51275232
It's one of the PAX IMPERIALIS comics. They get dumped all the time if you're unable to find them anywhere else, 4plebs might help.

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>>51275232
They still exist but they're really rare, and those that are functioning are corrupted.

>>51274804
>original type moon jump
Could you post that, by the way? I haven't been able to find it.

>>51275329
Why?

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>>51275276
DAoT humanity had nothing on the Eldar. That much I do know. Even at humanities apex with the Men of Iron they couldn't do bugger all to the Eldar. You have to remember the Eldar literally helped fight the Necrontyr at the height of their power. This is with fully formed C'tan and everything that entails. There was an extract about how a fleet of Eldar ships entered human space and left before the defense fleet arrived. They'd completely wiped the system out. Hell the craftworlds are nothing more than cargo ships iirc.

>>51275296
Cheers gonna dig through the archive for them now.

>>51275298
I may have a perk or two to remove the corruption them so it's not all that bad. I'll probably end up using OOC perks and a copy of the LoT and say the Emperor sent me on a mission and I'm one of the Primarchs that were stricken from the records.

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>>51275201
That's also true, yes. And they can appear in multiple areas at the same time.

>>51275218
>also, what are the limits of custom Essence 6 Infernal charms?
You can make custom charms up to and including Essence 5. It's everything Essence 6 and above that's banned.

I'm not sure what the limit exactly is, but you've got your Shintai that grant miles-wide telekinesis, evil twins, and acid-shoggoth transformations there. As well as Demon-Wrcking Shout to hurt demons over a mile radius, Oath-Shattering Strike which... shatters oaths, The Green Mile to magic-irradiate a mile-wide expansion of land, demon-spawning pits and summoned sandstorms...

There's also the fact that a lot Infernal charms also just upgrade with higher Essence, like Constructive Convergence of Principles allowing you to Shape stuff in Creation at Essence 7.

>and if we take orphan cub of the Devil-Tiger does that allow us access to their charms with that would be higher than essence six?
Nope? You can create charms for that, until you hit the limit, and then the only thing you can develop is a Tenebrous Apotheosis-like Shintai.

>>51275352
>couldn't do bugger
Could do bugger all* I need to start proof reading.

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>>51275329
Now aren't you glad it was split up.

>>51275374
>You have realised a path to the Akasha, roll 1d100. On 89 or
below, you rejoin the Akashic Records and roll a new Jumper. On 90 and above you
have discovered a Sixth True Magic, joining the ranks of top 30 or so strongest beings
in the world.

That's pretty dickish.

>>51275365
>You can make custom charms up to and including Essence 5. It's everything Essence 6 and above that's banned.

Okay I remember it as being written as 6+ rather Up to five , that was a little ambiguous and I misinterpreted that and I'm sorry! good thing I have not used those yet. do those higher essence crafting stuff like custom Impossible materials, turning creation into beyond etc. we talked about earlier fit into this range?

>>51275374
Speaking of Fate, I know that Val said that you could still use the original Fate/Jumpchain jump with the caveat being that you could take any of the 'periods' that she hasn't remade into their own jump yet.
So the question here is which periods would still be valid when she's done with the remaking?

>>51275218
Oh. I was thinking it would be a bit faster if it was only allowing me to learn from someone better then me. Like training on my own it would do nothing but with a superior teacher it goes faster until I'm at there level.

>>51275393
It's also not really how that works. True magic is seeing akasha and running the fuck away not luck.

>>51275434
Maybe 325 then,I didn't know you were adding a catch like that.

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Is there a way to give yourself Madoka Witches' aesthetics?

>>51275430
None. She's remaking everything in it so eventually the jump is getting removed completely like the original TM jump up there.

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>>51275411
>Okay I remember it as being written as 6+ rather Up to five , that was a little ambiguous and I misinterpreted that and I'm sorry! good thing I have not used those yet.
No problem. I guess it is a bit ambiguous.

>do those higher essence crafting stuff like custom Impossible materials, turning creation into beyond etc. we talked about earlier fit into this range?
I believe so, yeah?

Well, Creation-to-Beyond might not, since it's a bit of a bigger effect than Creation-to-Wyld would be. But it would be a higher-Essence upgrade on the base charm anyway, so that's also fine.

>>51275456
>Maybe 325 then
Are you just pulling these numbers out of your ass or are you basing this on anything?

If you're going to give quantifiable rulings you might want to set out some type of algorithm or at least some vague scope. Tossing out numbers at random is just going to cause confusion.

>>51275486
The wings power in Wraith arc can let you spout giant eldritch wings if you have enough despair.

>>51274906

Does anyone ever use Misc Meta for anything besides getting a second Worm power?

Open ended 'you can use this perk for anything' perks are dumb as fuck. If PS238 actually had cool options like Worm has it might actually be worth a damn in its own right.

>>51275508
He made it half again as good for a fairly large limitation, seems fairly basic.

>>51275511
Seeing how too much despair kills you/ends your chain that doesn't seem like a very good strategy.

Even after the jump you'd basically need to be fucking miserable for what amounts to a visual effect. That doesn't sound good to me either. I kinda like being happy or at least somewhat content.

>>51275535
I doubt I'll ever pick up an actual Worm power, the setting just isn't very fun to me. PS238 I can at least imagine fun stories for.

>>51275508
you've got a very good point, I need better benchmarks to build my benchmarks off of though.
>>51275500

okay then. also, how do These look?
http://pastebin.com/MQVFX3ik
>>51275535
I used it to copy E-bon from static shock only replacing Shadow teleportation With shadow minions.

>>51275535
I get a second Worm power but then get two other fun ones. Like a power that lets me shoot "elemental eye beams" like acid blasts, cold, blasts, heat, and sonic beams.

>>51275549
I'm pretty sure there are a few perks that let you determine how other powers read your mental state/heart/whatever but I can't remember where they are.

>>51275569
>you've got a very good point, I need better benchmarks to build my benchmarks off of though.
You've always said that MM was street-level cape stuff, so find a couple of analogues for broad powersets and then build your method accordingly.

>>51275535
Pfft who needs a second one? Just get Thanatos and eat everyone.

>>51275608
Or just get Complete Arsenal and then get a power that lets you eat powers.

>>51275593
yeah the hard part is people want actual numbers and I'm very bad at actual numbers The ballpark I'm shooting for is three purchases is national level superhero stuff like avengers Or fantastic four six purchases would be planetary like Justice league or green lanterns. Do you think that would be clear enough?

>>51275630
I suppose that could work to. Although I prefer Thanatos, get a duplicator power and some other good ones and you're basically set. Have a bunch of tinker powers and a bunch of different Thanatos' work on stuff, shaker powers to fuck things up or create energy/Matter (it isn't shard based after the jump so if you have kaisers then it comes from nowhere). Hell get Lungs power and Siberian and no one can really hurt you.

>>51275608

I try and play a fairly benevolent jumper, but you fucking bet if I'd rolled Thanatos I'd have gone on a horrifying murderspree across Earth Bet and every world afterwards.

As it was I rolled Doormaker so I instead loot dead alternate worlds for power up items/mirror universe evil twins of good guys I can drain via magitek mastery.

>>51275635
Does Eidolon's power count as ability duplication or granting?

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>>51275674
>I try and play a fairly benevolent jumper, but you fucking bet if I'd rolled Thanatos I'd have gone on a horrifying murderspree across Earth Bet and every world afterwards.


Eating murdersprees, is there anything that they can't solve?

>>51275702
I'm not worm so it is not within my authority to make that call

>>51275635
How many purchases would Superman's ability to metabolize sunlight into his powers be?

>>51275674
Just get a good timestop + Magicka ressurrection. In the Worm jump, everywhere I went, people would suddenly black out for a few seconds, and then get up without knowing what had happened. And the official description of my power was that I simply stole the abilities of everyone in a set radius. Worked like a charm.

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>>51275569
>okay then. also, how do These look?
>http://pastebin.com/MQVFX3ik
Decent, aside from them getting your powers. Which is... not how 3rd Circles work.

>phlox miasma of 10,000 indulgences
Not sure why it is both a misty intangible field, and an opium den. Seems like that would work better as just the haze as location-form, with similarly hazy human(oid) form or something?


More generally... you've got Intimacies, but not Motivations?

No names to go with their titles? Demons usually have both, but you could do only titles too.

>>51275725
planetary level stuff is six purchases,I just said that.

>>51275430
1st, 2nd and 3rd Wars, I guess. Those are the ones not featured in any media.

>>51275702
Eidolons power works by precognition and then tapping into other shards for an ability that would deal with the situation. Or something similar that Eidolon wants to use (I can't remember if he chooses his powers or not.) Make of that what you will. I'm not worrm but that is basically what his power canonically does.

>>51275736
So you've gone back on your word and you'r enow giving out planet level powers.

>>51275737
Ah, yeah I though so too. Thanks anon.

>>51275635
I think you should stop this stacking entirely actually, and return it to what it was. All you've done is turn the jump into something where misc meta is all anyone goes to and only then to get stuff from other jumps. You should improve the rest of the jump, not try to offer more power to make it more attractive.

>>51272291
To the anon from the last thread who wanted stories.
http://pastebin.com/NkFTdRQv
http://pastebin.com/spLNtryN
http://pastebin.com/1ScZ6Mpe

Just a warning though, they're really short.

>>51274837
>Large window

What, 24 hours? Not trying to play down how much an average jumper can get done in that time frame, but that's only 0.27% of a year to enjoy unlimited resurrections.

>>51275734
>>Decent, aside from them getting your powers. Which is... not how 3rd Circles work.

okay , I completely misinterpreted how it was written then! please tell me how it actually works.


>>Not sure why it is both a misty intangible field, and an opium den. Seems like that would work better as just the haze as location-form, with similarly hazy human(oid) form or something?

Noted,I will fix that.

>>More generally... you've got Intimacies, but not Motivations?

I know nothing about exalted and I have no idea what motivations are Or what they are like. Please elaborate.

>No names to go with their titles? Demons usually have both, but you could do only titles too.

I honestly thought that was how exalted demon names worked.....

>>51275772
this is a good point and we can do this and I'm sorry too many people keep pressuring me in different directions

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>>51274541
Only from Pluto, and he stole her in the first place so it was more like a rescue than a theft.

>>51275712
Bancho, I'm not asking about for Worm, I'm asking about for PS238. For the purposes of Misc Meta, is ir banned?

>>51275802
and I don't know enough about were to say if it's one thing or another

>>51275797
It's okay. You've got a great guy helping you with this, rely on him. Just stop looking at what other people are doing in their jumps. Thinking you need to keep up with them never helps.

>>51275816
>It's okay. You've got a great guy helping you with this, rely on him. Just stop looking at what other people are doing in their jumps. Thinking you need to keep up with them never helps.


it's not a matter of keeping up with them. It's a matter of meeting current standards,and I just don't want to end up like MIB

>>51275833
>Meeting current standards
That's the same thing. There are no current standards for power level. Is the ceiling on what is acceptable in terms of high power higher then it is in the past? Sure, definitely. But that doesn't make it the standard at all. Focus on your setting and what makes it great beyond power levels, not on what you think it has to be at to meet some acceptable standard of power levels.

>>51275657
>get a duplicator power
I think Worm_Anon said at some point that there are sharply diminishing returns to killing the same thing over and over, because Thanatos will get everything it can from them fairly quickly. It's not an XP system, it's more like taking the best bits from something and applying them to itself.

Also, in jump at least, there's a better than even chance your shard will screw with your power if you try to game it by not engaging in real fights.

>>51275801
But she ended up liking the place and given the chance she didn't wanted to run away.

>>51275881
You misunderstand. I meant kill Spree and use his power on the Thanatos. It's controlled directly by your mind so the intelligence loss means literally nothing as you just end up controlling mindless clones.

>>51275736
So that would work.

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What are the best friendship perks? Not just perks for getting friends, but perks that affect friendship or improve your friends.

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>>51275797
>okay , I completely misinterpreted how it was written then! please tell me how it actually works.
Alright, so...

You have the Yozi or You. Both have lots of power, and their own nature.

The 3rd Circles are then expressions of your nature and personality. You got that part, judging by the pastebin.

Their charms/powers come from that nature. So they'd have charms and innate powers appropriate their/your nature and their own...

Phlox Miasma of 10,000 Indulgences, for example, would have charms to do mind-altering things, do things with emotions, and produce such substances (rain them perhaps? or just let them billow forth as a mist), as well as manipulation of light.

But they wouldn't have your powers, they get their own. Just as 3rd Circles can't access the Yozis charms. The only time they get access to your powers, is when you allow your Fetich/Heart souls (from the Heart and Soul perk) to channel them.

>I know nothing about exalted and I have no idea what motivations are Or what they are like. Please elaborate.
Basically, their purpose/defining desire in life.

Like how Amalion has: "To create things of beauty." and Ferand has "To lay waste to all who oppose him."

>I honestly thought that was how exalted demon names worked.....
Well, they /do/ all have fancy titles.

But the Green Sun is also called Ligier, and the Prince Upon The Tower is also Jacint, and the End of All Wisdom is also Orabilis

>>51275925
Not sure if that would work, since that sounds way better than Spree's power. If I recall, his main weakness was either that he couldn't control his clones, or if he could then he couldn't give them any order more complicated then "flip out in that direction." Being able to control the clones you make sounds way better than that, I think killing Spree would just let you mass produce murder-machines.

That said, trying killing Crusader instead. That might give you something closer to what you're looking for.

>>51275976
Sprees clones issue was that they rapidly lost their intelligence. As I said killing him and gaining the power would give Thanatos the ability to make clones of itself. The difference is that while the Thanatos may lose intelligence it is still linked directly to my mind like a hive mind. The clones would simply become drones. I just used spree as an example as he is the only one with duplication powers seen in canon iirc. I can always search for other with the same kind of power as him and avoid the downsides he has. Crusaders power is different, he creates ghostly duplicates that have their own powers, sprees are just duplicates of the original, higher chance of them having the powers of the Thanatos in my opinion. But as I said I can always just go around killing people with similar powers. While it does get diminishing returns it'd eventually get the power I need. There's always resurrection if the power you get is slightly different than what the cape you killed had.

>>51276043

I think one of the Protectorate members involved in the Noelle fight was a duplicator. Kudzu, maybe?

Speaking of, if you do get Thanatos then teaming up with the Travellers has amazing synergy for feeding your victims to Noelle then killing a half dozen evil clones with spin-off powers. Since they all have variants on a theme rather than being direct copies of the same power, Thanatos should be able to get discrete improvements from each of them.

>>51275500
>I guess it is a bit ambiguous.

It wasn't ambiguous.

What spells in Anima Beyond Fantasy let me rip out someone's soul? I can't find a spell that lets me does that. I don't have the rule book and I need a way to take someone's soul.

>>51276082
Essence path is soul magic, level-78 is Transmigrate Soul. This can take a souls out of one thing and put it in another, whether it should be in that sort of thing or not.

>>51276074
I thought everything Noelle copies had the same powers but a different personality? Also highly deformed, I remember the guy who could become a gravity creature dying to radiation cause he fought a mutated Vista. I'll be honest though I am gonna grab teachers power and probably all of toybox. There's just so many powers that can synergise really fucking well. Panacea, bonesaw, nilbog and crawler to name a few. Getting the one from the Yàngbǎn who can share powers is also on the list.

>>51275232
>I thought Primarchs blood made you closer to the Primarchs than normal marines would be
It does, all other things being equal someone with this perk would be faster, stronger, etc. than a typical Space Marine.
Whether all other things are equal, namely experience and skill, is up to the jumper

Is Generic Xianxia valid/ is the jumpmaker around the thread? I have a few questions.

>>51276275
Ah ok, guess I could play the act of one of the missing Primarchs then like I wanted to. Pop up after finding a any Men of Iron and getting the info in their databases. Drop into Sol in the LoT and help rebuild. The fact I'd look like Sanguinius and have OOC powers probably helps a lot with this. Angel wings and such you know.

>>51276290
>valid
I dunno, it looked pretty favorably received the last time it was posted here, but I don't think it got put on the drive.

>>51276343
I remember that there was some contention about the extra time drawback, which I'll admit I am abusing, and is why I ask. Of course, if that gets taken out my question will be moot.

>>51276188
Similar powers, for the most part.

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>>51275833
Would super beauty be an acceptable Miscellaneous Meta power? What would I get if I used all three slots on it?

>>51276275
Would it boost your psyker abilities if your Primarch was Magnus the Red, or another notably psychic Primarch?

>>51276375
Oh yeah, I think that's an issue. I'm in favor of "take it as many times as you want, but you only get points for the first X times you take it."

Also, I just want to say that I love how the powerlevel issue is solved via pointing out the existence of training times. Yeah, you can smash galaxies with your pinky eventually, but the training time required is so mindbogglingly long as to be irrelevant. It's no worse than a soft-cap perk.

>>51276394
The Primarch perk says;

>All of your physical abilities are

boosted considerably (Power Armor is basically redundant), you tower over even most Space Marines, and you bear cosmetic similarities to one of the 20 Primarchs.

I'd assume you don't get a psker boost, not unless you took alpha in the jump that is. You'd just look red and have a massive mane. Probably shot on sight too.

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>>51276394
>Would it boost your psyker abilities if your Primarch was Magnus the Red, or another notably psychic Primarch?
That would mean that you're part of the Thousand sons, and that's heresy.

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>>51276557
Well, I was thinking of the Bloody Magpies, but I know that's mostly fanon.

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What is the exact moment that I, as Jumper, can be 100% certain that I went mad with power?

>>51275833
>>51276394
Now that I think about it, would super beauty be more of a Rainmaker Kid power? If so, what would I get if I got it with The Price Of Power?

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Finally got round to watching Fantastic Beasts and figure I could do a jump of it.

Obviously it'd need updating once more films come out but updating Harry Potter related jumps is my fetish anyway.

Anyone already doing it?

>>51276649
well if you're pretty enough that people don't want to fight you or are thrown off enough for it to be combat effective it wouldn't be a rainmaker kid power. if you are pretty enough that you would be a reasonable challenge to Static or Spiderman it's a miscellaneous meta-power

>>51276667
No one from 4chan. Go for it.

>>51276667
Yesss. Go for it.

>>51276672
>if you are pretty enough that you would be a reasonable challenge to Static or Spiderman it's a miscellaneous meta-power
And how pretty is that if you use all three slots?

>>51276696
well you only mentioned one power So I was was assuming it was all three spots,all three slots total is the Spiderman/static level

>>51276667
Can you add an option in the Harry Potter jump to have events carry over?

Not that I wanted to kill Merope Gaunt or anything, oh no, that would be bad.

>>51276435

Isn't the problem that people are just using this one Jump and saying "Yeah, took like trillions (not trying to exaggerate, think I heard someone quote this number) of years to training on 'X' so I can do whatever now"? Usually people are limited by the time they have in Jumps to manage a training schedule but this was something that people could easily abuse?

>>51276696

87% pretty.

>>51276712
>>51276696
>And how pretty is that

>>51276734
Do we have anything that keeps your powers from interfering with each other? Say channeling Index Saint powers as a DMC Demon or using magic as an Esper?

>>51276667
Yes, please.

>>51276633
I wasn't sane before I started jumping, and I never picked anything up to fix it so...... Pokémon I guess
>>51276738
pretty enough that you are a reasonable threat to Spiderman and static,you know all those one panel gags about someone so pretty usually a scantily dressed woman getting her way by virtue of those around her not wanting to do anything that might disappoint her or causing traffic accidents by people turning their heads to look at her? around that.

>>51276734
No. And that's not really a problem, either.

>>51276734
Who gives a shit? Any jumper willing to spend trillions of years in XianXia could probably get time compression effects to let them do the same thing anywhere.

>>51276734
The problem was that so much as it was that you could just take that one drawback however many times and get everything in the jump. As far as I can tell, though, no one actually had much of a problem with it.

>>51276738
do note that it will only work on people attracted to the gender you present as and there may be people to strong-willed and principled to be affected simply by "pretty" so you're going to want to look out for those people, and judge dread types

>>51274316
Standard procedure.

>>51276734
Past a certain powerlevel, there's really no point to continuing to jump. You should just spark at that point since there's nothing you could accomplish with jumping that you couldn't just do under your own power.

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>>51276873
>Giving up my 10 year perk injection

Fat chance.

>>51275963
The shaping charm for expanding your Inner World. Was it 5 hours for 10 square miles?

>>51276899
>perk injection
Lewd.

>>51276931
I myself had assumed drugs, so what's that say about you?

>>51276844
>Jumper turns into a unusually pretty, and unreasonably large gun.
>Judge Dredd is instantly smitten.

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Have you ever made a private Jump for a setting that you were sure that none would ever made a jump/wouldn't get accepted?

>>51276964
>still arrests you for wielding an illegal weapon within city limits

>>51276734
>>51276835
>>51276838
>>51276899
>>51276873

It's just a matter of if you feel like that's an obvious "hee hee I'm so clever" exploit or not, and if you care.
It's kinda obvious that to a lot of people it isn't a matter

>>51276974
My current jump is likely heading that way

Long as the drawback limits the points you can get, who cares? With points, it's pretty much an excuse to buy everything though, which is a problem.

>>51276964
I'm like 90% sure that guy is Aro/ace. also , it isn't a turn into anything power It's a appearance perk.

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>>51276929
5 hours for an area of (Essence) miles in radius. At minimum it's 6 miles radius when you get it, 10 miles maximum.

So that's between 113 and 314 square miles per activation.

>>51276974
What's the point of that if no one would ever see it? Any perks that you don't personally plan on taking would be entirely pointless to think up, since you not taking them means NO ONE would ever take them.

I'd at least put it on one of the alternative sites.

>>51276991
>And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for you meddling Judges!

>>51276993
I feel like in this case "a lot of people" is really just you, since you're biased in this case and would like it to remain as is.

>>51277005
Even if you don't post it, could you at least tell me what it is?

>>51276873

If ganking some schmuck like Mask in D&D and absorbing his divinity is enough to end your chain, I think spending billions of years creating and destroying universes in Xianxia should also qualify.

You've made it clear you want to spend forever in that setting, who's Jump-chan to refuse you?

>>51276974
I know people have done that but I haven't.

>>51277022
Okay, thanks.

>>51277005
Is it for QQ?

>>51277059
I'm making a Fallout jump that takes place before the war. I'm pretty sure it might not be accepted mainly because, while there is a good amount of lore in the games, none take place pre-war. If no one has an issue, however, then I'll post it.

>>51277082
No

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>>51277045

That's a loaded-statement and we both know it.

>>51276677
>>51276686
>>51276773
Sweet. Consider it claimed then.

>>51276723
I'll think about it.

>>51277045
I feel like it's really the other way around. There was only, like, one person who made a complaint in that regard when it was posted both times, and that person has since withdrawn that. At this point, we'd just be retroactively denying a jump that has for all intents and purposes already made it on.

>>51276667
Oh please yes.

>>51277123
You were extremely enthusiastic about the jump when it was first being made and I believe you have a vested interest in keeping the option that allows you to get everything in it with very little downsides, so you do a post like above where you try to deflect negative opinion towards that part and dismiss it as just a minority viewpoint. Is that clearer?

>>51277145
There's been multiple complaints, some of which certainly haven't been withdrawn. Please stop spreading falsehoods to support your viewpoint.

I wasn't aware it made it onto the drive yet. I don't believe it has.

>>51277193
Well, I certainly haven't gotten that impression. Thread consensus at both times it was posted certainly reflects that yours is a minority viewpoint.

>>51277193
Well look at you, little lord self righteous. Fuck off.

>>51277228
>Consensus
It's funny that people keep trying to claim this when the reality is that most people don't actually care one way or another about little fights and arguments like this. It's really easy for either side to just say that means everyone agreed with them. Just a observation from an outside guy, it's amusing seeing it happen over and over.

>>51277193
So fucking what? Not every complaint has to be "fixed", Emperor Anon. The thread largely approved of it, and one anon getting up in arms against arguable "abuse" shouldn't prevent it from getting on the drive.

>>51277283
Again with this "Only one person ever opposed it" lie. Is that the only argument you have? Is it because a way to buy everything in jump and also get as much time as you want to train it all, with it all being stuff that needs training time, is actually a awful part of the jump and you don't actually have a defence for it? Methinks you should stop trying to hide behind a claim of majority agreement and say why it's an okay option.

>>51277282
Well, when most of the responses were in the vein of one "side", it's not unreasonable to say most were in favor. Frankly, I don't give a shit about the opinions of people who didn't vote or speak up when they had the opportunity.

>>51276734
The problem is less the jump and more the unlimited time / CP drawback. That drawback exists purely for for powerwank and is the source of much of the gnashing of teeth around the jump. I get that continual training is a thing in XX, but are there examples of protagonists that spend trillions of years training? No, no there is not. The drawback is a representation of what may work logically given the metaphysics of the system but again trillion year training montages are not a thing in XX. As such, the drawback exists purely for power wank and it should be removed.

Will it? Probably not. The current meta gravitates toward CelestialUnitOfMeasure!busting and the proponents of that style of play are loud. Single player, that's fine, but it is skeevy at the least to put in a drawback that is predicated purely on no limits wankery when the defense of the perks offered is that its representative of the source material. The jump and jump maker want it both ways. They want to include high powered perks that represent the source material, which is fine. However they're wiling to deviate from canon, at least in its narrative focus, when it suits them for the sake of power, which is not.

The problem isn't the jump. The problem is the meta that has been inserted into the jump for the sake of meta.

>>51277282
Nice appeal to invisible numbers there m8.
I'm sure there were dozens of people who didn't like the jump. They just didn't speak up. No, hundreds. Thousands of people didn't like the jump! They just didn't say anything. Definitely.

>All these responses about a jump I asked about
>still can't ask my original questions
Different question then. Should I take the stay longer drawback 100 times?

>>51277316
You're the one who started with the strawman. No, I don't actually want that. I actually argued against it when it was posted. It does, however, have precedent and the thread largely accepted it. I don't need to make an argument, the simple fact is that you're trying to block a jump after it was basically accepted. Again, not all critique is required to be implemented.

>>51277193

It's clearer, but also a complete and total lie?
I was excited about Newgenics. The option to keep everything wasn't in my mind and it's kinda clear from that and a number of other claims you're just saying untrue things to try and make your argument, and I'm not a fan of you telling me what my motives are. I'm not happy about the way it panned out but at the time the thread came about the arguments mostly leaned in favor of "no points but you can stay for googoltrillion years"
Or at the very least there wasn't enough pushback to undo it
Again, not happy with how it turned out but nobody really cares anymore except for arguments.

TL;DR ooooooo why you lyin'

>>51277434
Maybe you just have a poor memory then. Because it's not on the drive. Or in the new uploads section. So it doesn't seem to have been accepted yet. And the last memory I have is of people arguing over the extended time drawback and the maker just stopping responding.

>>51277066
Is Misc Meta limited to some kind of genetic powers type of thing? Or can the source of the power be magical in nature?

>>51277425
If you want. Nobody really cares.

>>51277477
If it's not on the drive as >>51277486 says, then why aren't you arguing to fix something in a jump you like? And you were excited for it, more then just newgenics, so please don't lie there when you were expressing your great excitement for it in public. It only hurts any defence you might make.

>>51277495
See? Why are you still saying that in spite of several people expressing that they do care? It's very hard to not see this as you pushing an agenda when you actively try to force a certain view.

>>51277425
Its uninteresting, so I honestly don't care to hear about it. Do what you like.

>>51277495
Then why the fuck do people keep talking about it. Everyone just stop.

So can someone walk me through building the non-jump stuff for the Exalted jumps, as well as telling me what books I need? I'm talking about getting through something like the "Form 689D" Section in Sidereals, or everything I need in Infernals (the Urge stuff, Torment, what charms, etc, including the Devil-Tiger stuff (for both Orphan Cub, and if I Devil-Tiger myself), and same with the Dragonbloods stuff.

>>51277526
Because if /jc/ didn't have something to shitpost about they wouldn't know what to do with themselves.

>>51277492
you can fluff it as whatever power source you want so long as the total power level is unchanged.

>>51277548
First you say not to put words into your mouth and then you do the same thing to others? I don't want a drawback that reduces a jump to a checklist where you mark off everything. That is the exact opposite of only caring for power. I'm arguing for it to be reduced because I don't want that mentality to become more widespread and yet all that seems to get in response is falsehoods about it already being accepted or everyone wanting it when, clearly, you yourself don't even agree with it.

Who is this everyone that agrees with it when everyone that seems to say that admits they themselves do not agree with it?

>>51276974
>Yes. Twice.

>>51277425
>Staying for over 10^30 years
I mean, if you want to.
There is the issue that 1: that's really boring from a story perspective and 2: staying in that setting for longer and longer periods of time exponentially increases the chance of you getting stomped by someone stronger, and in Xianxia there is always someone stronger.

With 100 purchases you're pretty much guaranteed to die. On the minuscule chance you survive, you'll become a universal-tier deity..

>>51277659
Or just take Xianxia protagonist?

>>51277639
Would you be willing to post them(and then maybe delete them after a couple minutes or something)?

>>51277586

I don't want it but at this point I've accepted that the people who'd want to abuse it will find a way anyways and that trying to close every loophole in a jump leads to inevitably someone trying to throw a shitpost in or start an argument that completely derails any actual discussion into "you're a nerfwhore!" "Powerwanker"

I'm just tired of trying to actually give a damn and it being a waste because it becomes some stupid vortex of people instigating things with no stake in the actual discussion

>>51277639
Confess your sins, please.

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>>51276974
I made a half-finished jump for one of my crossover settings once. Pic related is one of the characters I made in gaia avatar creator.

>>51277659
I'm already at 59 purchases, might as well go all the way.

>>51277698
see >>51277678

>>51277668
That doesn't completely eliminate the chance of dying, even if it does reduce it.

In most settings, someone who lives through the first couple years is likely to continue to live until the end of the jump. The guaranteed escalation of inherent to the setting means that that assumption does not necessarily hold here, which means your survival rate does not necessarily increase with time. This means that if you're given enough time, and taking that drawback 100 times means you have a lot of time on your hands, the chances of you dying approach 1.

>>51277680
Eh, maybe you should go cool down. I think that anon is in this argument for the long haul, so this is not going to go anywhere but in circles.

>>51277698
>pic
Don't know if trap...

>>51277680
So why did you keep arguing earlier that it was already accepted? If you don't care, why did you post about it at all? It's fine if you don't care about it but please stop actively putting down other peoples attempts to fix it. If you don't give a shit fine, but others still do.

>>51277746
Mm, I think this is actually you applying tropes which aren't necessarily a real thing and trying to say they're iron hard rules in all xianxia settings.

>>51277680
Honestly Digger, you're an idiot if you go into these kinds of shitstorms with the expectation of anything except relentless insults and being put under a microscope. These people have nothing better to do. You'd be far better off just ignoring them and coming back once the storm dies down and the sane people start posting again. Just let them beat each other senseless and come back later to see if they ever reached a middle ground. Which they almost certainly won't.

>>51277698
Hey, unrelated and I know this is out of the blue, but I think I'll forget if I don't ask you now.

In the upcoming Sailor Moon revamp, is there an optimal time to use the drop-in capstone to give someone a powerup? That is, would someone benefit from it more if I used it on them after they'd already undergone a lot of training and growth? Or, in videogame terms, is it a better idea to use it on someone who's level 5, or to use it on that same person after they've hit level 50?

>>51277746
So I spend my time working away in the warehouse on various projects or training there. Totally safe and I still leave just fine. I can do fights against simulated opponents of any difficulty there, so it'll be just as interesting as if I was out in Xianxia anyway.

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>>51277783

>>51277783
It's funny that you and Digger are actually the ones doing most of the insults and shit stirring. I know hypocrisy is a thing here but being so obvious about it is a little tacky.

>>51277720
Maybe someday. Most of it's horribly unbalanced because it was a purely for-fun thing. there's a tree around specifically giving the middle finger to fate. also the setting isn't that developed yet. And it's a crossover setting. Although Creation is explicitly a banned zone to go to since Exalts can REALLY fuck up their plans.

So they have a time-space wedgie around it to stop people from going there.

>>51277580
Neat, thanks.

>>51277812
*Exalts can really fuck up the god's plans in the crossover setting

>>51277790
There's no optimal time to use it. You can use it whenever on a person and get the same benefit.

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>>51277112
>Spoiler 1
I actually think that would be pretty neat.

>>51277678
>>51277685
I would never be able to live it down or hear the end of it. Sorry, but no.

>>51274953
Drop in items.

100 cp - Related Media
All of the related materials for the Showa era. Original show, reboot movies, trading card game, videogame, you name it. If it’s Showa era merchandise, it’s here. And in it’s original wrapping, though that might be slightly counter productive to actually watching/reading some of it.

100 cp - Newspaper Clippings
A scrapbook stuffed full to the brim with ‘random’ clippings. Car crash, robbery, breaking and entering, suicide… Surely, theses things have nothing in common? Or, if you could read between the lines, it might be exactly what you need to prove the existence of a secret organization. Doesn’t have to be about Shocker.

200 cp - Kamen Rider Pachinko
A pachinko machine decked out in the style of Kamen Rider. Somewhere between an arcade game and a videogame, the various animations that play upon scoring will always reflect the nearest Rider and Kaijin. I wouldn’t call it a tracking device though. Maybe an early warning system?

200 cp - An Apartment
A small one, maybe two, person apartment somewhere in the city. It’s completely paid for, and you will never need to spend a penny on anything but groceries. Beyond that, absolutely nothing special about it. If it gets wrecked by something, a new one will be provided.

400 cp - Platinum Smile
A copy of Chiharu Kazami’s last song, ‘Platinum Smile’. It is, of course, cursed. Anyone who hears it will be haunted and hunted by the spirit of Chiharu - a rather powerful Kaijin. It is possible to fight of the ghost and ‘kill’ her, but seeing as 99.99% of all people here are normal, that's not likely.

>>51277812
Note to self: show up with as many Exalts as possible if this is ever released. Just for the hell of it.

>>51277917
So how will this work if someone already took Showa Part 1? Is it just it's own continuity?

>>51277914
Do it. Do it. Do it.

You're anon, so it's all good. Or just toss them in a paste and link that.

>>51277914
>Concerned about reputation
>Posting as an anon
Come on, son.

>>51277914
>anon would never hear the end of it
Seems legit.
It must be lewd, a really bad fanfic, or both.

>>51275790
Thanks Kotor!

>>51277938
I'm not 100% clear on the timelines, but if you do showa 1 and this, and then take the continuity drawback in showa 2 or later, you can choose which one to use.

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Rolled 6 (1d12)

Don't mind me, just keeping myself honest

>>51277969
>just keeping myself honest
Lyre.

>>51277981
Stop trying to drum up drama.

Rolled 2 (1d8)

>>51277969
Striker? I can work with this.

>>51277969
>>51277998
https://www.wizards.com/d20modern/d20mdice/dice.htm

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>>51276974
I usually just imagine my jumper getting sent to some setting without any perks, or with extremely banal perks that I don't actually bother to make because they're so banal. Like... "the ability to think up puns", or, "you are kindof good at cutting hair".

Before Sitcom Jump did its revision, I did that with King of the Hill. There was no real plot or accomplishment. I just liked to picture my jumper as one of Hank Hill's neighbors.
And then the events didn't really enter into the chain much if at all, because it was really just a fun thought experiment. I mean, I prettymuch operate under almost negative continuity as is, so if any one jump exists or not doesn't really change things much in most cases.

> So, what DID you do in King of the Hill, now that it's a sortof official add-on and you could actually go there?
Ironically, I haven't thought about it.

>>51277112
We've had less official stuff that got made into jumps. I'd totally be interested in seeing that. I always love seeing new jumps.

>>51277985
>>51277981
You're both to eager to dig up bad feelings.

>>51277112
I dunno. While I'm all for new content, if it's going to be almost or entirely OC I don't think it's a good idea.

>>51278017
>not getting the puns
You're a failure, anon. A failure at life and the internet.

>>51277929
You CAN go to creation if you can get through the space wedgie, just don't expect the gods to be happy. If you do that, expect bad luck to happen to you since the gods are kind of like Sidereals in that they can manipulate fate and all that.

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>>51278009
Yes, yes whatever.

>>51278041
>missing those top level shit post puns
You've failed to rise to the next level anon. Shame. Fo Shame.

>>51277914
Doitdoitdoitdoit

>>51277985
Well, if he's just going to trumpet it like that, what did you expect?

>>51278070
Maybe not toot his own horn like some folk?

>>51278061
Don't get keyed up just because we're not playing your game.

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What popular jumps will never be on your chain? (pic related)

When has your jumper NOT been the one to go mad with power?

>>51278086
Sounds like someone needs a tuba butthurt cream.

>>51278087
Yes, thank you anon, let's shitpost more about the jumps we all hate.

>>51278086
You need to stop harping on this, before I tune you up.

>>51278087
Final Fantasy.
Not that I have anything against the jump or jumpmaker, I just...don't like Final Fantasy.

>>51278103
That comment was maestroful in its observation and execution.

>>51278109
You don't have the brass; you're all wind.

>>51278128
I have XI in my chain, because it seems less retarded than the usual FF. Also, mithra.
I've never played any Final Fantasy games.

>>51278129
Don't get me amped up, I'll orchestrate a symphony of destruction all over your face.

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>>51278087
Exalted. The Jumps make it look so interesting, especially Sidereals, but the power level for that universe is off the charts. If I did take one of them, it would probably be the place I end up Sparking.

Most of the modern Final Fantasies, as in, everything after 9. Not because I don't like the Jumps, but because that's when I stopped playing the series. I know the stories up to that point fairly well, but after that they just no longer interest me. I'm probably missing out on some good stuff.

As for your second question... Well, remember Rip Van Winkle from Hellsing Ultimate? I may have allowed her to buy the Greeed is Good option in Kamen Rider, NH Part 1. Along with the Giant Jug of Cell Medals.

At least she only has three Core Medals... right?

>>51277580
So can Misc Meta do brick powers? Or is that limited to FISS?

>>51278245
>spoiler
Lmao, no it's not. Just because its fans like to wank it all over the place doesn't mean it's anywhere near "off the charts". At least not any more than something like Supernatural or D&D.

>>51278286
Clay, concrete, or lime?

>>51277857

Is the revamped Sailor Moon jump coming out soon? Any juicy teasers?

Being able to shit out youma and daimons for any menial chores I need done has been super handy, so I hope they're still in.

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So I tried editing this document earlier, but all that happened is weird text gaps showed up around Gentle Soul, and a blank page near the end of the jump. Can someone look into it for me?

Enjoy!

>>51277586
You do realize that literally anyone can go to 4plebs and see you're full of shit, right?

>>51278341
Oh great, more invisible text. What an original and funny idea this is sure to be.

>>51278341
>invisitext
Arrrrgh! Wry, tho?!

>>51278341
Goddammit. Lemme make another word doc just to see what might be interesting.

>>51278087
Kamen Rider. I feel like it's all one big meme that I don't understand, so I have no idea what's going on when I see people talking about it.

Is there an end to the number of series there are? It seems like every day there's a new Kamen Rider jump in the works.

>>51278382
Could you paste it here for us too please?

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>>51278355

>>51274620
Not without permission.

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>>51278331
It's not the fans wanking that make me think that, it's the charms that I've looked into. Admittedly, D&D Epic Levels get a little crazy, but Exalted really blows them out of the water.

>>51278413
So how do we get permission when no one has any way to contact someone who never wants to be a part of /jc/ again?

>>51278341
>invisible text
HEAVEEEEEEEENS!

>>51278422
What canon Charms ae more impressive than D&D epic spells?

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>>51278355
>>51278365
>>51278382
>>51278430
I have successfully inconvenienced several anons! MY EVIL PLAN IS COMPLETE!

>>51278422
Considering that perfects don't work outside the jump, you're wrong.

>>51275352
>DAoT humanity had nothing on the Eldar. That much I do know.
Then why did a rediscovered DAoT warship wreck three Eldar ships?

>>51278439

Isn't there an infamous combo of charms that allows you to destroy all of creation?

>>51278467
Cause Elder got shitty over time too I imagine.

>>51278341
Someone give me suggestions for weapons.

>>51278471
Creation Slaying Oblivion Kick? That's some RAW Pun-Pun bullshit.

>>51278461
YOU MONSTER! There is only one way to settle this! When you next ask for role suggestions, I'm going to give you a really complicated jump to read! Like one of Dirge's jumps or something, which are good but also reallly really long.

>>51278388
There's been Kamen Rider series since the 70s.

The really old (Showa) and modern (Neo-Heisei) series are tapped out for jumps, but there's still 555, Blade, Hibiki, Den-I, Kiva, and Decade to go.

>>51278471
That's Sidereal Martial Arts, and the jump where you can get those explicitly calls it out as RAW bullshit.

>>51278466
They do work though, they just don't always have conceptual primacy.

>>51278471
Only if you game the single worst balanced book in the game, which should be ignored when considering anything about Exalted.

Also, technically, it's only killing everyone in Creation who isn't underground or otherwise in cover.

>>51278341

Um...excuse me? Do you have a second?

I know you must be really busy, jumping across worlds and having adventures...but if you can really hear me, is it alright if I ask you something?

No one else can really hear or see me anymore...at least, not until the end. This new world keeps some of the worst tragedies of the old one from happening again. But, I still worry about all of my friends.

Sayaka, Mami, Kyouko...Homura. They’re together now, but I still worry about all of them. I can save them from disappearing, but...

I know it’s selfish for me to ask this, but...could you please look after them and keep them safe?

And if you do, could you please help them as much as you can?

I can’t promise a reward or anything like that...and I know you probably have bigger things you’re worried about.

But if you can, I’d be in your debt forever. Even if it’s just for a decade...thank you, Jumper.

>>51278467
Just like the Orks are no longer the monsters that they used to be during the War in Heaven I believe the Eldar are no long the God summoning Psychic Artillery that they once were.

>>51278536
Seems kinda pointless.

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>>51278466
That's your opinion and you're well entitled to it. Mine is simply different.

>>51278439
Geeze, I don't know. I only looked into it briefly before tossing it all over my shoulder. I can't cite off specific examples.

I was just responding to a question guys.

>>51278388

It's yearly with a backlog of at least a decade (*nudge nudge*) or so of shows that are unjumped, so not really

We still have about 5-6 series that haven't been jumped yet either.
(if i recall...Blade, Hibiki, Kiva, Faiz, Den-o, Decade)
the only reason the jumps aren't more prominent is due to a desire to emulate the Part 1, Part 2 structure Kamen Jumper made with Showa

>>51278562
>Skyraider bike
HERESY. BUT ALSO WANT

>>51278536
Ha! I was planning on doing that anyway, so that's no challenge for me!

>>51278424
You don't. That's just how it is. Can't always get what you want.

>>51278551
I'm pretty sure that's meant to be the requirements to companion Madoka.

>>51278592
>>51278551
Don't forget to read the two new pages at the end of the jump.

>>51278541
Maybe not, but when talking about DAoT humanity, its vs. Eldar Empire, not the War in Heaven Eldar.

>>51278341
>>51278536
So how would I go about doing this? Would doing the old Madoka jump and taking Memory of the Old World help? Would taking What Rebellion also help?

>>51278467
Most current Eldar ships are civilian models, Craftworlds were merely transport ships iirc. Humanity had nothing on pre fall Eldar, and that is when DAoT era was. Before the Eldar fell and became nomads.

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>>51278536
Right in the feels

>>51278656
Craftworlds were specifically what amounted to Amish settlements.

>>51278613
I think you forgot to make those invisible.

>>51278601
Seems like the majority is okay with it though.

>>51278629
No DAoT is prefall Eldar, which held war in Heaven technology. DAoT came about before Slaanesh and thus before the fall of the Eldar.

>>51278672
Apologies, but still they are settlement ships then, not true Eldar warships.

>>51278613
I would but I'm on my phone right now, so I can't look at it because SOMEONE made it invisible.

>>51278679
I made them visible for those who didn't want to bother with the text - or as a surprise for folks who were gonna do that kind of thing without Madokami prodding you along. Benefactor-speak doesn't have a reason to be invisible, anyhow - for Madoka, it's a nod to nobody being able to see or hear her.

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Shehai & Knight Enchanters how would they enchant their weapons to do say elemental damage, strike harder...etc? Would it be pumping up the magic stat and pouring more into the blade?

>>51278694
Wait, never mind, that's just my phone bugging out on me.

>>51278682
>The majority
Numbering from replies was more like

3 opposed.
2 for.
1 who made no statement.

So not enough to make that kind of statement of 'majorities'.

>Inb4 he replies to it a second time.

>>51278688
>No DAoT is prefall Eldar, which held war in Heaven technology.
Prove it, because if they did, then you'd find scraps of it in Commogragh.

Plus you have to understand that old one tech=/=eldar tech. You don't give your foot soldiers your best shit.

>>51278629
That's kinda my point. The Fall and Birth of She-Who-Thirsts kinda is a big event for them. If you want an example of what pre-Fall but post-War of Heaven tech is like look to the Dark Eldar's Dark Lances and other stuff like that. Also >>51278656 >>51278672 are right on this point.

The MO for fighting large scale combat was fast attack and summoning their Gods until they grew so hedonistic the Fall happened. They were so strong that nothing could fight them after the Orks left to places unknown.

>>51278703
I know, I know.

Though honestly, it wasnt that much of a hassle. I just hit ctrl A and looked for the blank spots.

>>51278728
I'd be fine with more JoJo jumps.

>>51278722
>Shehai
It's a manifestation of your soul. It doesn't do enchantment.

>>51278754
You're an individual, senpai. You can voice your opinion, but don't make arguments of majority from it.

>>51274620

Go for it. Honestly the Jump should have been structured like that in the first place.