Millennialfag, GenXfag, or other?

>>51273148
The generation thing is pretty fucking stupid and arbitrary since people are being born non-stop.

what's your point?

>>51273148
1995

>>51273148
You were born in the 70s and you're still on 4chan?

>>51273148
OP's a fag! LOL!

>>51273148

1992

you can say thà you were doing market research without being faggot op

>>51273148
non-grognard genx

>>51273632
so?

>>51273148
1980

>>51273632
When did you plan on quitting 4chan?

99.

I own models that were designed before I was born.

>>51273148
when I started playing the USSR was still a thing.
>>51273632
oh child, there's plenty folk on 4chan in their 40s and some above. Spawn of 1976 here.

>>51273148
1997?

>>51273148
1997 year, but I doubt genx/millenial shit apply to me 'cuz in Soviet Russia shit's different

I am pretty sure I fall under the millennial umbrella

>>51276946
Is this a joke about the guy who answered his age as "21 or 20" ?

>>51273493
Found the millennial>>51273493

>>51273148
Born in '85, so whether I count as Gen X, or Millenial depends on what agenda a sociologist is trying to push.

1998, so Millennial.

89'
No idea what gen that makes me.

'85.
So pretty close to the border, but I generally go with millenial.

>>51273777
same

>>51280226
>>51280282
'88 here.

I guess it technically makes us millennials, but I always feel kinda awkward about it, considering I remember life before the internet

>>51273148
I was born soviet in the year that made Chernobyl famous.

89 here. Gen Z's will start voting in a few years.

>>51273148
Liminal. I combine the best traits of both with the worst traits of both and a side of your daughter.

>>51273148
GenX and Millennials are the same thing jackass.

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>>51273148
My dice are older than many posters. Another Bicentenial Baby here. These are all that remain of my first dice sets I got back in '86

>>51280718
Millennials are Gen Y.

>>51275703
I'm from -93, same position, m8.

>>51280718
From Wikipedia

>demographers and researchers typically use the starting birth years ranging from the early-to-mid 1960s and ending birth years ranging from the late 1970s to early 1980s
for gen X

and

>demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and ending birth years ranging from the mid-1990s to early 2000s.
for millennials

>>51273148
'96 over here.

>Tfw 2016 was my first and best election year.

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>>51280171
You just missed the cutoff bud
>>51280131
Probably true but by definition you're a millennial because you came of age in the new millennium
>>51280831
>He didn't vote in the midterms
Classic millennial

>>51281322
>11 more years of babyboomer faggotry
>not sure if GenX is going to be any better by then

1997. I'm becoming a grognardlet. I like older shit that I can spend a few afternoons learning and digesting. I'm gonna experiment with running Mutant Future if I can drag my friends into it. Otherwise, I try to incorporate old-school style challenges and puzzles that require more than a roll to solve in my games. OSR has been a huge influence on how I play and run games.

>>51273148
1982

>>51278196
Maybe you did. Maybe people under 25 are dead tired of being pigeon holed for their age before they can even speak, and having everything they say colored by "entitlement" and "impatience," and maybe they just want to be able to enjoy their hobbies without the year they were born being their defining feature.

>>51275703
Whoa, some people born in 99 can drink in a pub now.

1990, been a 40kid since rhino rush was still a thing.

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1976.

OP, were you the gloriousfag who started the 90's thread a bit ago?

that was good. sad it fell out.
we oldfags are few...

1992.

Became a tabletop player when I was 14, never stopped since.

>>51273148
was born '96... so, millennial? It's kind of stupid to group people be generation though, no? It just creates more boundaries and stereotypes to work around. Better to talk about our ideas, than the things we can't control.

>>51273632

1970

You think we old folks can;t use computers? My generation built the internet.

>>51284067
I didn't know the people who made the internet were 13.

93, grew up playing with my dad who was born in 67.
I would not be surprised if some of my dad's group posts here.

>>51284067

Commercial use of the internet didn't start until around 1989 and wasn't common until a couple years later. The world wide web was built by my generation.

>>51280658
>Gen Z

Kill me now. Every time I look outside I see my god damn cousins. Then I realize generation Z is the last one on the planet if they are anything like this.

>>51280777
>>demographers and researchers typically use the early 1980s as starting birth years and ending birth years ranging from the mid-1990s to early 2000s.
>for millennials
I've always hated this definition of Millennial. You can draw a line right through the tail end of the 1990s - if you grew up with the internet, or without. I think you could reasonably be born as late as '87 and not really fit in the Millennial cohort as we understand it, today - that's when my brother was born, and he had a front row seat for how internet access changed the culture practically overnight, when early social media first became a major factor.

I was born two years earlier and none of that shit even registered for me until I was already in high school and it was still so new that my high school experience wasn't appreciably different than a Gen Xer's, ten years before me.

'94fag here. Got into TTRPG about 4 years ago. Interesting time to be just getting into this stuff.

>>51273148
1994, got into TTRPGs about 3 years ago, which is a shame, would have loved to get a group sooner than that.

>>51284717
>I've always hated this definition of Millennial. You can draw a line right through the tail end of the 1990s - if you grew up with the internet, or without.
This.

2000 I'm a junior in highschool and I rollplay with my friends on the weekends

I was born in '87. I don't give a shit about the generation thing but I'm pretty sure I count as a millennial.

Regardless, I mostly like OSR.

>>51284989
Silly underaged b&, you might be getting some time to be a normie.

95 here. The elitism here is palpable. Just keep in mind even people like me have been playing for upwards of a decade. We're not all new just because you're old.

>>51273148
1997, first tabletop RPG was D&D 3.5e in High School

>>51281322
>You just missed the cutoff bud
Every researcher has its own millenial age range, I've seen some go all the way up to 2004

>>51273148
1997, my uncle taught me 2e when my mother wasn't looking because she thought it was the devil.
2e is all that me and my friends have ever played to date, as well. As far as I can tell, everyone's okay with it

>>51275754
>>51284067
>>51282879
>>51284067

1975 calling.

>StopRuiningMySafeSpaceYouOldFags.jpg
>inb4 been here all summer. etc etc.

What happens when all these young ones HAVE to obey the "get off 4chan, you're too old" rule? Never going to happen.

>>51285500
2e is the only good D&D, and I say that as someone who started in the waning years of 3.5.

>>51273148
I was born in 88 and was called GenY for 20 years but now millenials say everyone is millenials so they get some minimum success from us almost 30's fags added to their generation of suck.

I don't even have a smartphone or social media accounts.

>>51273632
/tg/ and /h/ are the oldfagt boards.

Got into Warhammer 40k in 2001. Been into it ever since.

1990 Millennial. Pretty much hate anyone that shit-talks this generation. I lived on my own since 17, did 8 years of military service, own a house, obtained my bachelors degree and have been married for nearly a decade.

I've kicked more ass then some GenX's I know yet I still hear the snickers of the Baby Boomers before I shut them the fuck up.

>>51285869
>mfw boomers don't realize a pension is the world's biggest participation prize

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>>51273148

1976

Tabletop games never get old if you can still find entertainment in your imagination.

>>51285869
You're the exception that proves the rule. Most of the rest of our cohort is garbage. If you get shit from boomers, it's because they're trying to deflect from the fact that they fucked up their kids, who are fucking up the world.

>>51273632
GenX here. 1967.

I've....seen things....you people wouldn't believe...

>>51285834
>millenials say everyone is millenials
It wasn't millenials who decided everyone born after 1980 are millenials.

>ITT the most entitled brats of a generation blame the economy and world they fucked completely in the ass for the express purpose of their own gain blame their children for not being able to do what they made impossible

>>51273632

'77, and have no plans to leave.

>>51285964
Also for decades boomers were blamed for pretty much everything, and they can't contain their glee now that they have a victim of their own.

>>51285964
>Millennials are fucking up the world

With what power or authority? Most millennials are too crippled with student loan debt, and busy working shit jobs while living with their parents to do any damage. Baby boomers are still fucking everything up, they've just convinced everyone that it's the damn kids' fault.

>>51285964
But Gen Xers are the Boomer's kids.

>>51286976
Not necessarily. I'm a millennial, and my parents were late boomers.

>>51286737
Millenials should be 95 onwards. Young adults who remembers the world before the internet should be their own generations because sincerely they're like entirely different societies. I've worked with way too many runts that can't be a whole hour without looking at their fucking deviced and without fault they had an Iphone or laptop since their early teens.

>>51284717
This. I was born in 87 as well and can relate much easier to people who are generation x than I can millennials. I remember life before the internet, I also remember playing outside. Shouldn't that be part of what defines the difference?

>>51286933
If it brings you any comfort they are slowly on their way out the door. I wonder what the world will be like once we get rid of the boomers...

>>51285964

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4IjTUxZORE

>>51281739
Are you literally me?

>>51287096
>Young adults who remembers the world before the internet should be their own generations because sincerely they're like entirely different societies.
I was born in '97 and have been using computers/the internet before I could even read.

>>51287097
>>51287096
>>51285834
>>51284717
Generations are grouped in 20 year periods regardless of what you want to be grouped in to.

>The Lost Generation
1880s-1890s

>G.I Generation
1900s-1910s

>Silent Generation
1920s-1930s

>Boomers
1940s-1950s

>Gen X
1960s-1970s

>Millennials
1980s-1990s

>Gen Z
2000s-2010s

>Gen Alpha (soon)
2020s-2030s

>>51287096
As said the end of the "Cold War" to the dawn of the internet used to be called "Gen Y," but unlike what the previous anon was saying, the reason Gen Y got lumped in with millenials is because it was more convenient for Boomers and early Gen Xers. Turning one word into an effective slur is more convenient than doing it with two, "those lazy ass millennials are just lazy and entitled, that's why they can't find good jobs and buy houses after we made the requirements more demanding and slashed all their pay" is much easier to say than "those lazy Gen Y-ers and Millennials

>>51287231
>95 onwards

>>51287266
I was confirming the point.

>>51287265
Millennials has always been a nickname for Generation Y. Find me a single academic source that states that Generation Y and Millennials have EVER been a different definition. Generation Z is the generation that you're thinking of as the only generation that does not know a world without computers.

>>51287252
The problem is sociologists insist on fusing Millenials and Gen Z as all Millenials despite Gen Z being completely unrelatable to Millenials because of their extreme dependance on the internet.

>>51273148
1997, I feel like I didn't get a good tabletop experience in highschool because of the internet killing most other people's interest

>>51285696

that 1976 guy here:

yeah, we chose the chan, we will stay here as long as the servers are up.

OldFags: which game is your favorite?

i heard ADnD 2e, any others?

>ITT: people complain about Millennials while not actually understanding what the term "millennial" means

Millennials ARE the people who remember life before the internet was widespread. That's literally the defining characteristic of the generation: they came of age around the turn of the century, and experienced both the pre-internet and post-internet world's during their formative years.

And you know what? It sucks. Especially for early Millennials. They were effectively raised to live in a world that no longer exists anymore. The goddamn rules of reality got rewritten right as they were getting used to them, and now everybody hates them for shit they've never had any control over.

>>51286320
....i've seen attack ships on fire off the belt of Orion....

>>51287305
I was born in 85, my sister was born in 97. We're both artists and she's much better than me at digital painting and modeling but in her own words as to why I'm in a studio doing concept art and she's stuck with drawing the same girl in pastel colors in front of an abstract background: "I'm not creative like you, I cannot just imagine things, I need to google pictures to know what to draw".

And it's not only her, I've given classes and workshops to people of all ages and kids who were raised on the internet seem incapable of just making shit up in their minds. Some go even as far as being unable to draw a person that's in front of them and having to take a picture with their fucking phone to draw from.

Pre and post-internet is probably the greatest generational schizm since the industrial revolution.

>>51287408
Anecdotal evidence about your notion of a "creativity gap" aside you yourself are still not old enough to truly know a world without the internet. By the time you were six internet access was already available to the public. There were still people born in the late 90s who didn't have internet access until at least the mid to late 2000s. The definition of Millennial still fits for both you and your sister.

>>51287292
>Millennials has always been a nickname for Generation Y
I recall hearing "Generation Y" in the late 1990s. I don't recall hearing "Millennials" until this decade.

>the only generation that does not know a world without computers
Computers existed in some form since WWII. They were moderately widespread by the 1970s, and common enough in middle-class homes by the 1980s. The WWW started in the early 1990s and grew to be very well known by 2000. A world without computers hasn't existed for quite a few decades.

As for "academic sources" that state that Gen Y and Millennials are different, I don't think it matters. There are very large differences between people born in 1985 and people born in 1995 due to the large differences in how we grew up and we know that ourselves better than any academic who wants to label their subject of study for maximum funding potential.

>>51287408
>Pre and post-internet is probably the greatest generational schizm since the industrial revolution.

There's no 'probably,' it is this century's industrial revolution. Which also means we're most likely on a collision course with a massive, globe-altering conflict as we develop new technological capabilities faster than the good sense to use them responsibly, but that's probably obvious at this point.

Makes me wonder what's the age average of tumblr SJWs personalities.
Anita, Quinn, Dunham, all that flock of sex-negative, entertainment-hating harpies that want "male" gaming and television to be banned so that we have to listen to their shit instead.

>>51287486
You're neglecting to take into account differences in levels of technology across different geographic regions. Someone born in an urban area in 1985 and someone born in a rural area in 1995 would most likely have had surprisingly similar childhoods, technologically speaking.

>>51287456
The difference is when I was growing up the internet was "that thing dad uses to mail his business partners and doesn't let me use the phone". I graduated high-school without having used it once.

By the time my sister was in high-school every kid in her class had a smartphone.

>>51273148
Born on the old end of what's considered millennial, but my tastes and personality are GenX

>>51287537
Not really. I was born in 1986 and moved from an urban area to a rural area in 2004 and was able to get broadband access in the rural area, which obviously wasn't available in 1994. So someone born in a rural area in 1995 would have had much more internet by the time he was ten than I had access to. And remember, one of the selling points of smartphones is their ubiquity, whereas people my age remember when cell phones were almost unheard of. I remember when my dad, a doctor, first got one. It of course couldn't do anything but make phone calls, and the battery was too weak for it to do that well enough for his purposes. Someone born in 1995, if they can remember their very early childhood very clearly and were outstandingly well informed for a toddler, might be able to remember when cellphones were merely common rather than everywhere.

>>51273148
I'm Generation Why.

>>51281552
You don't really know what generation means, do you?

>>51278196
Hey I found the moron who thinks he's better because rose tinted glasses and "kid these days".

>>51280459
Milenials are from '95 and forward

I was born in 89 which I've never really gotten a consistent answer on for what generation I belong to. I'm pretty sure millennial is just something click bait articles use in their titles to trick disgruntled old retards into biting though

>>51288049
>>51288143

>>51287252

>>51288195
Citation needed

>>51288208
http://www.npr.org/2014/10/06/349316543/don-t-label-me-origins-of-generational-names-and-why-we-use-them

http://www.pewresearch.org/files/2015/01/FT_16_04.25_generationsBirths.png

http://www.marketingteacher.com/the-six-living-generations-in-america/

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>>51287348
>yeah, we chose the chan, we will stay here as long as the servers are up.
I've been on 4chan since I was 13. I dropped it for better chans in 2011 and only ever come back for /tg/. How can you even stay here? Even on /tg/ I get banned like twice a month for wrong opinions.

Here's my latest, in a shitpost thread with the OP naming off a giant list of '>straight white male human' characters as Cliche Characters, my post wasn't remotely off topic and was exactly as politicized as the OP. And it was a sage, as if that matters anymore inb4 I get banned for announcing sage. This site's changed. I thought it was bad 5 years ago.

>>51288420
To add, it was obviously a joke, and not one didn't take much more effort to craft than the OP, though I feel I could've made the punchline sharper by either using only the last line, or avoiding the repetition in the last line. I can only imagine it was banned for disagreeing with some hot pocket's political opinions. What nonsense.

>>51288279
Those sources are wrong, the bottom one especially so.

>>51288514
Please find a source that is more accurate to what the standard definition of millennial is.

>>51288561
>standard definition
Here is your problem. There is no consensus on what the millennial generation is.

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>>51288544
I don't need a source. It may be that a significant majority of all parts of society are wrong on this matter, but that does not make them not wrong. Whether anyone agrees with me or not has no effect on whether I'm right or wrong. I assert that millennials, properly considered are people born after somewhere around 1992 and before (don't know yet) and that people born between about 1980 and 1992 are Gen Y. You can find a good many arguments in favor of my definition upthread, some made by me, some by others. I don't care to reiterate them. Those of us who have first hand insight on this matter can see it as plain as day that there are very big differences between the two groups, regardless of demographic inconvenience.

Oh, and also, that pew research graph doesn't entirely agree with you anyway, for whatever that may or may not be worth. I posted it here so people can see it more easily.

>>51288645
You mean the pew research graph that states that its definition of millennial is between 1981 and 1999? Yes, please tell me that it doesn't agree with me when I say millennials are born between 1980 and 2000.

>>51288698
Actually I think the graph says 1981-1997 since post-Millenial starts in 98.

>>51288698
You said a lot more than that Millennials are born between 1980 and 2000, and the graph says they were born from 1981 to 1997. It disagrees with you about other generations too, assuming that you're >>51287252

I don't think it matters a whole lot one way or another though, which is why I wasn't making a big deal about it or trying to build any sort of argument around it. But since you insist, it is useful to me in disproving your idea that all official sources consider generations to start and stop in precisely 20 year increments.

>>51287348
>OldFags: which game is your favorite?
>i heard ADnD 2e, any others?
Fuck that new school, hipster crap. Moldvay Basic is where it's at (with AD&D providing source material as desired).

>>51287348
>>51288772
Rules Cyclopedia best D&D book ever printed, prove me wrong.

Oh wait, no one can, because it's impossible.

>>51288809
I prefer things short and sweet. If I wanted a bunch of extra material, I'd play AD&D.

>>51287491
>Which also means we're most likely on a collision course with a massive, globe-altering conflict as we develop new technological capabilities faster than the good sense to use them responsibly, but that's probably obvious at this point.
Well given how hard the American media is trying to push this Russian hacker bullshit lately.

>>51287491
>as we develop new technological capabilities faster than the good sense to use them responsibly
Pft, as if this hasn't been the case for atleast a century.

>>51288772
Moldvay is the worst thing to happen to D&D pre-Lorraine Williams.

>>51288854
Have you forgotten about what was happening exactly one century ago?

>>51288896
It's five am where I am, my brain glazed over the first half of the sentence, my bad.

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>>51288420
Why the fuck where you banned for stating facts?

>>51288809
Pretty good choice, but when AD&D 2E came out it was OURS! No one else's and it rocked. The transition from BECMI Red box to 2E PHB was seamless when it happened first time.

>>51288871
On what basis? I guess if you're an AD&D fan, it makes a certain amount of sense as B/X is on the simple / minimalist end of the spectrum. But BECMI / RC are built on top of it, and it takes OD&D and makes it more coherent. Granted, you may prefer the way the little brown books approach certain things (I personally like the all d6 hit dice), but the changes B/X makes (or carries forward from the supplements) are present in other editions as well, so that alone couldn't make it worse than them.