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Pathfinder General /pfg/

Exciting new games edition.
What new horizons do you want to show /pfg/?

Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/JTj1yEmU

Avowed Playtest 1:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B5HkyGRtGZy3SWVhdWFBWERWWjg
Avowed Playtest 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rV7kaF9JL2gw9xQalkEnlEDL9WXtbsaCqNABm_pLIgc/edit?usp=sharing
Malefex Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1W3LrE8WyIxxYRr8d9dHsWioeUk_-HZaSMqVWRnzc9Fc/edit?usp=sharing
Legendary Kineticists II Playtest: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11_w1o5dSef2tzu2GDLnJKElHY3uyETzuzFHDAjI6P6k/edit?usp=sharing

Spheres of Might previews:
Part 1: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aLaYQEFAWU4zQBx58boJPPaySLgJc0Emmw9eKyIJeGI/
Part 2: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pyLq03W2ju58PcKOUq5YXoFowf_weBNzuWtjCMdINXk/edit#heading=h.pzrvi3ovaa70

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>>51268027
>What new horizons do you want to show /pfg/?

Game of Thrones in Brevoy.

STALKER in Iobaria.

Embroidering Simulator in Casmaron.
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>>51268027
I want to show everyone the perfect world of Spheres of Might and Power with normal casters b&. I want a Pathfinder worth playing.
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>>51268027
Event ones, mostly!
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>>51268027
>What new horizons do you want to show /pfg/?
I want to go on an expedition to Arcadia! I want to go there to honor the memory of an Ulfen friend to have his ashy remain taken to the new world!
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Is free VMC a fair replacement for paladin-tier spellcasting?
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How do you rule torture in your games, /pfg/? Can undead feel pain?
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Hey, ya'll wanna play WotR? But have it have some degeneracy alterations in favor of a multi god focus rather than jerking off about how great and amoral Iomedae is?

You want a casual game that ain't about trying to make some cheesy build and making the DM stare wistfully at the gun cabinet and wonder if tonight will be the night they stop being a pussy and do it?

Thrust yourselves into the mantle of crusader, champion, legend or scourge as even the sea of demons washing out from the Worldwound learn to fear utterance of your name or make the demons scream it out. Whatever, I don't fucking judge that weird shit

You got until Feb 26th to give me something, I ain't going to be posting or replying to anything more in the thread because you lil shits hype up everything so hard that everyone becomes miserable either way. If you need something, talk to me on IRC (#WotRaunchy). Gestalt and Mythic. Listed date is not the game date or schedule.

https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66875/wrath-of-the-raunchy
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>>51268185
Creatures that are immune to fortitude saves (such as constructs and undead) are immune to pain effects.
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>>51268141

4th level spellcasters get cantrips

Noncasters get free VMC that starts at level 1, and your class level = character level for all VMC abilities
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>>51268207
>that second spoiler
A-anon, do you want to talk about something...?
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>>51268227
It's jokes, it's jokes.
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>>51268244

It's not jokes.
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>>51268207
Anon, don't do it! Doing it is the pussy thing to do, not doing it shows that you have the courage to live!

That being said, I'm applying.
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>>51268207
OH HEY BY THE WAY, YOU DON'T START OFF WITH A MYTHIC TIER. FORGOT TO POST THAT SOMEWHERE.
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>>51268260
>implying it's courageous to run away from the death I deserve

Damned if I do, damned if I don't.
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>>51268336
The link to "Pathfinder Vices" just leads to a second instance of Feat Taxes, what is it actually meant to do?
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>>51268027
I'm still sad the heist game fizzled.
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>>51268344
But we love you!
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Give me the most metal martial concept you've got.

I need something you'd want to read with the DOOM OST blaring in the background.
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>>51268359
FUCK. HOLD ON,
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>>51268386
Soldier, survivor of the fantasy equivalent of the Somme. Had half his guts ripped out but he spat in the face of the reaper and refused to die. Now he's not sure if he can. For him, death might just be being trapped in his skeleton, unable to move, unable to scream, unable to die.

So he has to get stronger. Much, much stronger. Strong enough to become immortal, even if that means killing a god and taking their throne.
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>>51268386
A heavy metal einhander that wields a morningstar and wears full plate.
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>>51268386
"metaforge" style Aegis/Warsoul: Chainsaws, heavy armor and massive THP shielding to back it up.
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>>51268386
Find some way to use this feat.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/monster-feats/gift-of-sight

If that's not metal as fuck, I don't know what is. Be a Barbarian that cuts himself open and reads his own fucking guts for advice.
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>>51268386
savage technologist, focused on grappling and throat slicer feat for GLORY KILLS

Mix in primal disciple PoW for flavor and for when CMD scaling inevitably renders your grappling useless
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>>51268344
I highly doubt you have ever done anything vile and infamous enough to deserve any form of death sentence. Even if you find the idea of a life of inaction to be criminal enough, the best part is such things are swiftly remedied, as enough motivation is usually enough needed to convert a pointless existence into a tabula rasa of potential to readjust your existance.

In otherwords, quit being a whiny and self-important NEET, stop your pathetic pity party, and actually do something productive with your life that doesn't involve killing yourself or Pathfinder.

faggot
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>>51268423
Heavy Metal Einhander you say...
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>>51268418

Fuck, this one is good.
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What's the most savage character you've every made?
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>>51268444
If anon had any sense of self-importance, do you seriously think he'd be on 4chan? </nitpick>
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Don't hide it from me, /pfg/
Tell me about your homebrews
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>>51268482
You either have no sense of self-importance or far too much if you're here.
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>>51268493
I gave up on doing my homebrew ever since the avowed cucked me out of the mechanics and use of the word Aether.
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>>51268493
>Tell me about your homebrews
It's not moving forward tonight, that's for damn sure.
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>>51268530
>read avowed as awooed
That's enough /pfg/ for a while, I think.
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>>51268482
Eh, I come here to laugh at the insanity of everything and the living Aristocrats joke that is 4chan
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>mfw that futuristic Pathfinder campaign on Myth-Weavers
>level 8, gestalt, full 1pp and 3pp support, it just takes place in a techno-magical setting
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>>51268493
I used to be working on a setting where dragons were mysteriously dying and their hoards vanishing. The party would be sent to investigate, delving through arrays of untriggered traps to find dragon after dragon dead, rotting, and broke. Then they'd notice that the old dwarves are going missing as well. Immortal blacksmiths as old as the mountains themselves with all manner of secret metalurgies and alchemies.

Turns out that the dragon god, the god that should not be, has been killing his brethren, and taking their metals to give to his enslaved army of dwarves so he can arm his children with this powerful new weapon, firearms. And from there, take over the world.
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>>51268444
Nice trips.

>>51268027
The horizon where someone who just wants to work for a living can't be told "no," and where when you engage in creative endeavors people at least care enough to HATE them instead of ignoring them.

Is there anywhere like that on Golarion? Because I'd love to see it.
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>>51268583

>>level 8, gestalt, 3pp
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>>51268027
>new horizons
I would love to run a game of politics and duels in the demon crater on the moon.
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>>51268431
I did this with a human True Primitive/Raging Cannibal Barbarian with Racial Heritage (troll) and max ranks in heal.
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Does DHB's campaign look any good? Has he given any indication when submissions open?
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Is it possible to run an AP by yourself? Assuming you were that fucking thirsty to play.
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>>51268207
>You got until Feb 26th to give me something
Fuck you. This "month and a half to apply" bullshit is horrendous.
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>>51268743

??

Did you mean can you run an AP where you are also the only player?
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>>51268750
You're right, lemme pull a campaign out of my ass in less than a week during a college semester while also juggling two other games.

I guess I'll just have to hand the DMing mantle to Doug. He'll make it all right. Sorry guys :,(
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>>51268794
Yes
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>>51268493
I was building a setting for 3.5 that did away with all arcane/clerical/vancian magic. It was going to mechanically be nothing but Tome of Battle, Warlocks, Incarnum, and Binders.

Fluff wise it was set to be right at the dawn of sentient civilization, a Babylonian time of new ideas and the first city states rising up from the dust and dirt. No civilized races but humanity, carving out their little sanctums of safety and fighting off the almost-sentient monsters spawned from the corpses of the dragons who had ended their own kind with infighting and a magic plague.

I had maps drawn up, a dozen generations of history planned out and plot hooks like the first contact with out planes and outsiders, the discovery of another sentient race, a great threat from beyond the edges of the map that would need some sort of wall built to contain, etc.
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>>51268817

Doug's a stand up guy
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>>51268817
Why not work on the campaign bit by bit and when you're ready post apps?
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An insane wizard has decided to feed your party to his pet magical beast.

What is his creature of choice?
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>>51268838
He sure is! 5 of my slots are saved just for him and his 4 cohorts.
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>>51268817
>You're right, lemme pull a campaign out of my ass in less than a week during a college semester while also juggling two other games.
If you can't fucking handle running a game in a week, especially when you're just making adjustments to an AP, then don't try and run a fucking game. It's cancerous.

You're just being a fucking asshat. From here it looks like you're trying to induce a shitposting storm.

I mean fucking christ if it takes you more than a week to get a game ready when it's using a fucking AP as its base then maybe don't fucking run one.

If you already have two games maybe don't run a fucking third.

Maybe you should go grab something from that gun cabinet like you were thinking. I think it'd do /pfg/ some good.
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>>51268848
Oozes or Swarms
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So knowing Paizo I'm sure it's listed somewhere but is there something that's keeping me from stacking the flat bonuses to hit and damage from an Amulet of Mighty Fists and a Bodywrap of Mighty Strikes?
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Daily reminder that starting in a tavern is a shit move for shit GMs.
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>>51268844
You assume I plan ahead. Stress is a good motivator anyhow, it's how I trial by fire'd my way into DMing.

>>51268860
D'ohoho.
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>>51268848
The same thing his spell book, familiar, and body is gonna be when I'm done with him.

Ash.
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>>51268817
Then why not, I don't fucking know, wait until you're ready to run it before posting so you can jack off to a power game of people trying to jack you off to get into a game you likely will not run.

kys
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>>51268864
Both are enhancement bonuses?
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>>51268827
Don't do it anon, that way is where madness lies

it also gets boring as fuck outside combat
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>>51268444
I'd love to take that advice, really I would.

But they always tell me "no."

"No, you can't work here." "No, I won't comment on your art, not even to tell you it sucks and you should kill yourself." "No, you can't volunteer here, your family doesn't have a car." "No, you can't finish your degree, you can't pay the taxi fare you'd need to get back home after this required course that is only late at night."

You're literally the first person to tell me anything, ANYTHING about what I DO in MONTHS.

So, tl;dr, thank you. I'll go away now.
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>>51268874
>You assume I plan ahead. Stress is a good motivator anyhow, it's how I trial by fire'd my way into DMing.
Then you don't need a fucking month and a half. It's very obvious you're just trying to induce shit posting.

>>51268867
This is why I much prefer starting at a public hanging. The players have just been given overripe tomatoes and are expected to begin throwing.
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>>51268908
Clever girl.

I'll be taking this.
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>>51268884
Is that all? Dang, I was hoping for something a bit more complex preventing me from being MAXIMUM OVERSTRIKE.
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>>51268493
Working on two homebrew classes.
The Sigilist and the Totemist.

The Totemist is a support class that creates Idols, Tattoos and Totems.

Idols are placed inside inventories of allies and work as single-use protective charms
Totems are placed on the battlefield to confer area wide buffs and debuffs
Tattoos are imprinted on allies to provide a 24 hour minor buff.

The Sigilist is a caster who uses sigils as spell components to modify her spells, granting it special conditions like "creatures tricked by an illusion will more likely fail their next reflex save" or "creatures hurt by acid damage will be sickened by breathing in the noxious fumes."
Basically, a Sigilist invents her own version of metamagic spells.
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>>51268867
Daily reminder that blanket statements are a sign of shit people with shit opinions.
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>>51268860
cry more faggot
run a game yourself if it agitates your auts so badly
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>>51268908
>The players have just been given overripe tomatoes and are expected to begin throwing.

>mfw there are players who don't throw
>mfw there are players who think the hanging is wrong
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>>51268908
>A sign of things to come appears when one of the PCs realizes some other villagers will happily pay him in coppers for additional thrown produce, and devises a plan to take up farming while installing a fellow PC in charge of law enforcement and most notably sentencing....
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>>51268431

Some see this feat and think of a hardcore oracle. I see it and think "I bet I could make a really awkward character the rest of the party pretends not to know."

After trekking to a sleepy hamlet nearby a shadowed, gothic castle the party learns several townspeople are going missing during nights of a full moon. Enter Steve the Seer who, despite the party begging him not to, insists that he help find clues. He proceeds to rip his own intestines out, screaming and crying all while as he yells "IS IT WEREWOLVES? NO?! FUCK.... IS IT VAMPIRES?!..." The townsfolk look on in shock and disgust, the party shakes their heads, Steve continues with the ritual for eight long minutes before drinking two gallons of cure light wounds and passing out. He will do this atleast two more times before the week is over.
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>>51268897
Then post your shit here nigga.
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>everyone pisses and moans about not getting into dragongame or molthune or whatever the fuck
>another anon comes along and offers to run something
>immediately heckled to the stars and back over literally nothing
this is why you have no game
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>>51268989
We want our games NOW anon

We waited a month on Molthune and Dragon
Now he's asking us to wait another month and a half
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>>51269007

Let's be honest, 3/4ths of the applicants will be waiting a lot longer because they won't get in.
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>>51268989
If you're not willing to run a game within two weeks then don't fucking make a game.

You fucking deserve to be heckled.
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>>51268104
Spheres is designed like fucking garbage, anon.
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>>51269007
it's coming out in a month and a half either way. whether anon puts the listing up now or later is irrelevant, it won't get done any faster.

You're bitching for the sake of bitching.
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>>51269007
If you can't have patience, you don't deserve a game, simple as that dude.
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>>51269023
And yet still better than basically every other option in Pathfinder.
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>>51269024
See the thing is, a good portion of the folks put it up for a month and a half then don't run anything. I'm bitching because I don't want /pfg/ to shitpost about a game for a fucking month and a half. Molthune and RotJR fucking broke this general in half with shitposting.

God fucking forbid DHB applies because we'll have three fucking threads straight again of shitposting about his character.
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>>51269067
Seriously we were almost out of the tunnel.
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Is 60-76 DPR good for a level 8 Slayer?
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>>51269060
I disagree highly.
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>>51269067

Holy shit this.

Remember when we used to have maybe *one* thread of hype over a campaign, because the DM just dropped a concept along with the Discord and made it more or less First-Come-First-Serve?

These long-ass wait times generate hype we don't need.
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>Didn't get into dragon
>No one else is running what I'm looking for
>That... means I should go back to DMing right?
>I can run precisely the kind of game I want
>I just... won't be a player...
There's not even non-lewd options to be a big damn hero
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Is there are 3pp for guns or crossbows?
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>>51269067
>I don't like people who DM games because pfg shitposts autistically about the people who apply to those games
uh
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>>51269098
See this is why I am ok with DHB's game. he has stated he may have plans to run something in the future, but he hasn't created a fucking add for it and let people jack him off for weeks.
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>>51269099

You get to play all the NPCs! If you were not a twat about it I would let you roll a character with the players
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>>51269088
It's a little low, see if you can get a bit more with your strike and boost combos.

76 isn't VERY low, but you want like, 12 more if you can get it.
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>>51269108

We never shitposted about the various Land of the Linnorm Kings that recruited from here.

We never shitposted about the various campaigns the late Downtime God used to suggest - hell, we actually broke out the lore for those.
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>>51269129
...Slayer, anon, not Stalker.
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>>51269108
I don't like GMs that purposefully put games that won't be happening for months and advertise them knowing full well the only purpose of that is to be jacked off by players who desperately want to get in.

The fucking GMs could put the same 1-2 weeks out and get the same fucking result and not fuck over the general.

No seriously, don't act like they're fucking innocent. Posting a game that won't be happening for months, especially a fucking game that is obviously meant to rile /pfg/ up 'lewd', anti-iomadae, lol suicide then you're willfully being blind.
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>>51269130
That latter game is still going on actually.
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>>51269122
Wait isn't that your job.


If someone else plays them, they really aren't an NPC.
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>>51269100
Yes there is. It won't solve the fundamental problems - that is to say the same options will likely serve a longbow even better - but it CAN do plenty enough to compensate for the losses if you use those instead.
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>>51269122
I can't actually DM pathfinder
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>>51269139
>>51269130
Both were pretty much first come first serve.
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>>51269147

Well that sucks
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>>51269139
Wow a /pfg/ group that didn't implode after a year.

Impressive. What did the party end up looking like anyway?
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>>51269154

What does this mean?
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>>51269138

And you know what happens if you don't come up with a concept in time for the application deadline? Turns out you probably weren't that interested in joining the campaign to begin with, because people with ideas tend to put those ideas to digital paper within 3-4 days of an opportunity.

Post your campaign concept. Give a Roll20 link. Set it for 1.5/2 weeks after first posting. People who are desperate will make characters, people who have a concept they really want to try will make characters. In and out, easy.
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>>51269138
This is the same DM that ran the lewd Kingmaker game advertised some months back, and that game not only happened but is still going.
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>>51269096
The only spellcasting system I would consider better than spheres is psionics, and then only if the closest thing the game is going to have to a fighter is a DSP soulknife.
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HVGM here.

But my group is anti-iomedae by its very nature as a HV campaign, it's not that I made this bait for players who'd never get in, I just wanted to GM a game because it's been a long time.

I kind of feel shit because of this standard /pfg/ has been stuck with regarding these sorts of games.
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>>51269194
It means I can barely hobble together a character sheet let alone balance encounters and pull out all the environmental tables
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>>51269225
What's the fucking competition? Fucking Akasha?

Psionics is awesome on it's own merits, but being better than Spheres and Vancian isn't a huge feat.
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>>51269190
Actually it started as two games and one got shut down. That moved some of the remaining players to the remaining game
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>>51269257
The fact that an online game lasted a year boggles my mind.
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>>51269269
Well the fights take several sessions each and there were a few months hiatus too.
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>>51269269
It helps that the grand majority of us ended up meshing well enough that there's other games going on with the same general group. Plus, there was at least a total of 3 months hiatus, so it wasn't a year straight of weekly sessions.
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>>51269147
>>51269173
I did some conceptual designs for a crossbow user as to what their niche should be and where to fit them alongside other ranged characters.

What I came up with took a look at a fighter archetype. The idea became to make Crossbow the reactive of the ranged weapons. Guns being active debuffing, but providing less damage done by my UC gunslinger, and bows being active damage high damage, but less riding effects.

The crossbow was a marksman who would react to enemies with immediate actions. Had a special ability to sacrifice his move action to gain a second immediate action, along with receiving the Vital Strike tree for free with some extra abilities (to try and incentive the use of his second immediate action).

He would then be given a number of special shots that can be done using his immediate actions. Some of the main ones was punishing movement of any kind, punishing spellcasting, and ranged combat maneuvers.

It was originally going to become one of the Unchained Fighter archetypes, but I am unsure of its place.

I could go back and update the Broken Shackles martials. I am unsure of how much I want to do to it however as the Unchained Gunslinger is being published soon.

Also the UC Fighter already has one more archetype than both the UC Cavalier and Gunslinger. This would bring it up to 5 to their 3.

General thoughts?
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>>51269251
>environmental tables

wut
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>>51269316
>. Guns being active debuffing, but providing less damage done by my UC gunslinger, and bows being active damage high damage, but less riding effects.
I feel like it should be the other way.
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>>51269269

I've been in two online games that went on for over a year, I'm in one now in fact.
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When was the last time one of your characters found themselves on the wrong side of the law? And why?
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>>51269341
Well my character is a sworn enemy of the Hellknights, so perpetually.
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>>51269324
For example, I have no intuitive sense of how to set a DC

fall damage, fire damage, drowning, mounted combat rules, etc. etc.
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>>51269341
Always since the age of 19, and that's when she signed up with a pirate crew. She even has a wanted poster!

The DM made wanted posters. It's pretty awesome.
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>>51269190
The current party, as of right this week, is:
>TN Ghoran Druid/Soulknife
>TN Hobgoblin Barbarian/Stalker
>TN Half-Elf Warder/Investigator
>CN Human Barbarian/Stalker
>CN Human Warlord/Aegis
>NG Tiefling Zealot/Dread
>LE Skinwalker Psychic/Samurai

Previous members included:
>LN Human Aegis/Soulknife/Vizier
>CE (pretended to be CG via various magical methods) Human Monk/Fighter
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>>51269316

I like the immediate actions. It doesnt see much use in games albeit probably for good reason
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>>51269269
My first TTRPG was a game over IRC that lasted... Two years? And the game itself actually had a finale instead of petering out. My current IRC pathfinder group has been together for a little over a year, and is under halfway(?) through an AP, with plans to potentially start another one after we finish.
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>>51269341

Do you have a Fennec fox for EVERY situation?
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>>51269331
I can see your reasoning for it. It ended up that way during creation when the UC Gunslinger became part Gadgeteer and part non-magical Alchemist. Trick Shots, the debuffing ones, became largely weird special bullets.

If I had redesigned the Ranger alongside the Gunslinger it might have changed. Though the Ranger doesn't really fit debuffing in my eyes as a major theme, while Gunslinger does.

I had to go back and recapture the more cowboy gunman theme and did so with an archetype that completely threw away the gunslinger's contraptions. In my original draft it is called the Mysterious Stranger. The published version will however be the Motley Gunman due to Mysterious Stranger being copyrighted. It's much more cowboy than alchemist.

Bows seem interesting for damage, also due to lack of rifling on PF era guns their range should be far higher. I am unsure where to carve bow's niche as something more than damage however. Just damage isn't interesting.
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>>51269331
I can see why he did it that way.
Bows are to rooted in high damage builds as is, so making guns deal more damage then that could get very tricky without number inflation.
I do like the idea of guns being the "ranged martial debuff" option. Even though I think guns should be the reactionary option and crossbows being the debuff option.
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>>51269376
It's mostly because having one's full round action is extremely precious to a martial due to full attacks being so important. One does not normally want to sacrifice their full round action (by spending a move action in this case) unless there is a heavy incentive.

As well one's Immediate and Swift action share the same space. Spending one's immediate means no swift. It's a very crowded space.
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>>51269376
Man I wish I could stop making characters that weren't sluts for swifts.

So much good shit.
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>>51269480
>>51269456

I like the idea of giving up move actions for immediate or even switfts. I always liked to ready actions even if it delayed your turn, which sucked but oh well.
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>>51269418
Crossbows should be the reactive but high damage ones. Bows already do a lot of damage from their active multifiring, so the crossbows should be the "punishing" factor that much more.

Guns have two varieties, really. The older "big fat lead ball" ones were pretty much like crossbows; a slow preparation but a heavy hit. Range wasn't great, mind. But newer ones (any 'advanced' or modern or tech) trade much lower per-hit damage (they keep the penetration and even improve on it) for an improvement on an order of magnitudes to their fire rates.

After all, consider what the 'three-round-burst' means compared to firing a low-draw self-bow once a second.

There's also significant secondary damage you didn't see in bows and crossbows: One of the thing about bullets is that they tend to either overpenetrate (ie; it keeps going) OR fragment and tumble, shredding the insides of the target far beyond what punching a hole through would've done. This tends to be by design, as well.

An arrow to the knee might end your career as an adventurer, but a large slug might turn that whole part of your leg into a mangled mess, and your knee into shrapnel that affects the leg around it.
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>>51269378

Well, I try.

>>51269360
>>51269374

Do tell.
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>>51268493
Most recently?

Dragonladies.

Actually, that's a lie, the most recent thing related to homebrewing I did was figured out exactly how the fuck a 45 degree angle Narrow Cone would work.

Because god fucking damnit, 90 degrees is goddamn ludicrous when you think about it.
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>>51269341
My characters ARE the wrong side of the law.
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>>51268875
>And here, we can see the wizard in its natural habitat.
>THE GRAVE
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>>51269447
>I do like the idea of guns being the "ranged martial debuff" option. Even though I think guns should be the reactionary option and crossbows being the debuff option.
It ended up that way largely because there wasn't a space to focus on crossbows in the original draft of the Broken Shackles maritals.

My design process went like this:

UC Fighter -> UC Fighter Archetypes -> UC Cavalier -> UC Gunslinger -> UC Cavalier Archetypes -> UC Gunslinger Archetypes

So the flow of it backed me into a corner to a degree.

For each class I tried to focus on something different. The major things, in my mind, that matter in combat are these:

>Defense
>Damage
>Debuffing
>Buffing&Support
>Battlefield Control

Healing conceptually is a form of Buffing&Support. Each of the broken shackles martials tries and tackles bits of these.

The breakdown looks something like this, the thing listed first is the heavier focus:

>UC Fighter
Defense/Offense
>Mutation Master
Offense/Defense
>Lore Master
Battlefield Control/Offense
>Warmaster
Buffing&Support/Defense
>Blood Tainted
Defense/Offense

>Unchained Cavalier
Buffing&Support/Offense
>Hound Master
Debuffing/Offense
>Wyvern Rider
Battlefield Control/Offense
>Knight of the Patchwork Banner
Buffing&Support/Defense

>UC Gunslinger
Debuffing/Offense
>Motley Gunman
Debuffing/Offense
>Bootleg Alchemist
Debuffing/Offense
>Construct Tinkerer
Debuffing/Buffing&Support

As you can see the unchained gunslinger ended up a lot more homogenized through the different archetype themes. They do things very differently, but overall what they are good at when abstracted are the same.

For reference you can find the document for the classes here:
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pUevSnzc65Xw2cx3ah7iL7s1BBx0bVeF8xKlL0uFIcQ/edit?usp=sharing

The links in the pastebin are old.
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>>51268493
A setting in which Orcs occupied a land for centuries after conquering all surrounding species. These orcs are evolved from the corrupted blood of a dead god.
Humans came to this place from across the sea, under the guidance of celestial benefactors who have commanded them to take the continent for the glory of the celestial realm. (Of course the celestials really want them to destroy the remains of this dead god so they can fully control the realm)
Kobolds are the last of the ancient pre-Orc species on this continent, and have been enslaved by both Humans and Orcs, the Kobolds are few in number and fanatically follow their religion, headed by a bloodline of draconic sorcerers. The Kobolds' religion states that one day the dragons will return to the continent after centuries of being gone, and free them from the tyranny of these invaders.

I give players the choice of which faction to choose, upon character creation.

Other races are available, but each are allied with one of these three factions.
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>>51269523
Unfortunately the design of the UC gunslinger was such that it assumed you were working in emerging guns and modern/tech/advanced firearms were unavailable.

I like the concepts, but it is hard to wrap a class around them. Conveying just how deadly being shot is becomes difficult. Especially with the themes of pathfinder and just how durable characters are demonstrated to be.

A single bullet can kill a bear or a boar from even an inexperienced hunter. However in pathfinder such creatures have a lot of help.

Verisimilitude becomes hard to reconcile.
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>>51268933
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>>51269564
>all this bullshit
No fuck off. Get off your fucking high horse.
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>>51269564
>The links in the pastebin are old.
New pastebin for the next OP poster: http://pastebin.com/hAfKSnWW
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>>51269524
Well she was just a dockhand in Absalom, but she got that itch that comes from wanting to see more of the world and also being too autistic to have any friends among normal city folk. So she signed up with a crew that doesn't particularly like the Chelish and has a tendency to pick fights. It's good though, they put up with her awkwardness and 'people die when they are killed' tier conversation skills because she's a great cook.
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Is there anything interesting at all about Isger or was it just meant to be a bland Cheliax-lite?
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>>51269760
The Chitterwood.
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>>51269253
So you're agreeing with me?
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>>51269532
>Dragonladies

Tell me more.
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>>51269253
Akasha's quite a bit better balanced than Vancian, and works great alongside spheres. Psionics really isn't that much better than Vancian as a system, it's the classes that use it that really make the difference.
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>>51269838
I wasn't happy with the existing dragon options in the dragongame.

So I asked the DM if I could make another race, more closely based off the dragon princesses the game is inspired from. He said yeah, so it happened.
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>>51269838
That's actually a great fem-dragon picture. Who drew that?
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>>51269838
Very young dragonladies.
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>>51269940
Tom Fischbach I think? I think that's how you spell it.

The TwoKinds guy.
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>>51269952
That's insufficiently dragon.
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>>51270013
How about this one?
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>>51269532
That and pencil lines.
>The colossal creature's head fires a laser-thin gout of acid at a short range only twice that of a 90 degree cone
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>>51270067
see that's "children's book" cute. It's got the fluffy friendly atmosphere for it.
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>>51269960
Yeah that looks like his style.
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>>51270085
Have you ever felt like you wanted to aim Aether's Wrath more... horizontally?
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>>51270114
Well the filename also says 'by twokinds'
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>>51270144
huh?
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>>51270156
Unless I'm mistaken, that filename structure is deviantart's. Twokinds is also the name of his dA profile.
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>>51270156
Oh, it occurs to me now that I quoted the wrong post. Meant to respond to >>51270107
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what options are there for a non-lawful UMonk, if any? I only remember Martial Artist from regular monk, but I don't think I want to give myself a headache going through every single monk archetype seeing if it could be compatible.
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>>51269960
Isn't that Markiplier's brother or something?
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>>51270247
There's a racial trait for Aasimar that lets you take levels in monk even while maintaining a neutral or neutral good alignment
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>>51270247
You're pretty much stuck being a Martial Artist or being an Aasimar (which lets you be Neutral Good as well as Lawful Anything).
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>>51270247
Take a look at the Madman archetype from DSP's April Augmented.
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>>51270279
>>51270284
Huh, so anyone who wanted to have a chaotic alignment can go fuck themselves, huh? Guess I can't be too surprised. Was looking into things to Gestalt with Sorcerer under different levels of chargen (with PoW, without PoW, etc) and Monk looked pretty good, but mandatory Lawful was kinda lame. Though I guess there's nothing stopping me from playing a mindrapist with their own selfish, amoral code.

>>51270303
that thing was a headache to even read, let alone seriously consider for anything.
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>>51270276
Indeed he is, which is pretty funny since a very, very few number of people actually know that the two are brothers, which means that both of them made their claim to fame completely independent of each other.
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>>51270247
Scaled Fist
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>>51270437
Does that unlock it from alignment? It doesn't say anything about it on the pfsrd
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>>51270474
I thought it did when last I checked it

Anyone here got a copy or cap to verify?
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Every time I see something posted about aasimar I just hate them more.
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>>51270596
Yeah, how dare they be statistically comparable to humans in terms of power!
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>>51270637
>2
>floating
>ability
>score
>increases

'nuff said
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Is it possible someone could give me links of the currently recruiting games that have dropped by /pfg/?

>>51269316
So the final question is. Would anyone be interested in an UC Fighter archetype based around crossbow use as a reactive fighting style that punished enemy actions. As well as excels in sniping/vital striking.
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>>51269269
I ran a game for 4 years once a week from start to its conclusion and I'm never running pathfinder again if I can help it
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>>51270691
Did something similar here. Over three and a half years we as a group went through a campaign that took the characters from level 5 to 17. The cast changed multiple times, the campaign branched out, but the core cast had a long and decorated story. I know where the story will head next, but it's hard to find the time to run it now that we've all graduated from college.
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>>51270664
A bonus feat is even more important moron. Without that bonus feat, most simple builds, particularly martials, get too choked to work properly at a reasonable level.

Humans make Martials work, while also being equally adept at the casting classes, something most other races can't boast. Humans have shenanigans to get access to other races traits and options, while in order to get any of that the Aasimar have to trade out some of their better options for the shirty Scion of Humanity Trait, and jump through more hoops.

Face it, Humans are just better in every single way
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>>51270673
Not a comprehensively checked list, but here:
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/search/text/App.roll20/

You should be able to harvest the lfgs from there fairly easily.
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>>51270723
Sometime you have to know when to pack it in with a big finale, or you won't finish at all.
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>>51270751

We are pretty great. Too bad we never have a racial deity.
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>>51270802
Aroden.
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>>51270751
To be fair, some options of play, such as those that don't really need many feats (spellcaster-Occultists and any sort of Vigilante comes to mind) can really benefit from extra stuff like Dwarven Hardiness or Aasimar attributes. Tiefling is also a great choice for anyone using a gun.
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>>51270818

What is the current state of Aroden? Much the same as Zarus.
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>>51270778
I am unsure if all these games are still recruiting, but these are the ones I found that might still be.

Non-lewd games:
>Lost in Between Here and There
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/61636/lost-in-between-here-and-there

Possibly "lewd":
The Pendragon Institute
>https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65297/the-pendragon-institute

Lewd Games:
>Wrath of the Raunchy
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66875/wrath-of-the-raunchy
>The Sleeping Goddess
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66858/the-sleeping-goddess
>A Fluffy Fairy Tale 2: Electric Boogaloo
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/65518/a-fluffy-fairy-tale-2-electric-boogaloo
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>>51270800
I know where the end of the road is. It's just hard to get there.
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>Crossbows automatically do dirty trick

How are these rules
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>>51270802
Arisen was the God of Humanity who's whole deal was "Fuck da Aboleths, we do what we want!"

You ever wonder why the Starstone seems to pick mostly just Humans?
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>>51270891
>Arisen

Source?
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>>51270862
Sometimes you need to abundant step past all unnecessary points to even have a chance at the end.

Just weigh up what's really necessary for the conclusion, is all I'm saying.
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>>51270871
Too strong at level 1, especially if that is a rider effect.

Though I like the idea I can nauseate someone from over a mile away with a crossbow.
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>>51270930
From what I'm seeing things we'll end just after they hit level 20.
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>>51270920
I meant Aroden. Aboleths are in charge of my phone's auto-correct
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Why are the human racial deities always dead or non-existent? Is there are reason for this? Or just a fuck you to humanity?
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>>51270920
>>51270891

Pathfinder: Dark Arisen
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>>51270970

In Guild Wars, at least, the gods only give a shit about humans. Every other race can fuck off.
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>>51270962

And now he is dead. All I can say is they better bring him back for Starfinder so I can make my Pax Galactus du Humanis.
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>>51270981
WOLVES
HUNT
IN
PACKS


TIS
WEAK
TO
FIRE
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>>51270994

I thought the gods were silent in GW? Maybe I am thinking of the second one.
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>>51271003
Hey, anon.

We could get a good view from the top of that tower!
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>>51270851
>Pendragon
>lewd
There have been zero indications that it will be, which is part of what I'm looking forward to.
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>>51270846
Did someone say Zyphus?
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>>51271027

>being salty because you died
>not being salty about what happens to your soul when you die

Misplaced anger.
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>>51271020
You're right. I am a silly billy.
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>>51271027

Last game I played in had Zyphus as Urgathoa's little brother, and she walked the mortal world as the first divine Zombie, while he was the first Ghost.

Then the Shelyn worshipper implied that they were actually lovers, and the party had an entire campfire discussion on divine undead incest.
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>>51271120
I mean, if there's going to be any incest, it would be safest between gods, wouldn't it?
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>>51271120
How?
HOW?
SHE HAS NO CUNT!
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>>51271137

And he's got an ethereal dick. Your point?
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>>51271165
That there are significant technical limitations preventing them from performing anything incestuous?
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>>51271137
Unlife uh, uh, uh, finds a way.
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>>51271020
Yeah, as GM, I don't want any of that in that game. If people try to bring that into the main game, the professors can and will conjure ice water over the PCs heads.
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>>51271183
Does she have a purdy mouth?
Or failing that a wet orifice.
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>>51271195
She's definitely lacking at least two wet orifices in the images of her.
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>>51271193
Will we see a not!ruby rose being a fine hunter and ACTUAL CANNIBAL ?
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/PFG/ I need pictures. Pictures of edgy girls with rapiers.
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>>51271200
So what you're saying is she has one useable orifice for incest.
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>>51268027
I need your guys help. I'm making a Changeling Executioner Archetype Slayer at lvl 7 using natural attacks. So far I think I've done pretty well but now I have two feats left and no fucking idea what I should be doing with them. I've been pouring over the SRD and every guide I could find for the last 5 hours.

My stats are
12
18
12
14
10
10

And my feats are two of the Mother's Gift choices (Claws and Armor). My slayer talents are Eldritch Claws and Finesse Rogue along with the Archetype one, Painful Strike.

Anyone have any ideas about what I could take? Or a second focus besides Nat Attacks? Thanks for helping me!
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>>51271278
There's always Improved Natural Attack for better claws, no reason for your GM to not let you take it.
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>>51271089
Honestly I'm surprised it doesn't get discussed more, what with the homebrew setting + generous creation rules.
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>>51271302
Oh shit I can't believe I forgot about that, thanks man! Can you take Multi attack if one of your nat attacks is from a magic item?
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>>51270932

You still need to succeed at the dirty trick maneuver
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>>51271323
I'd say yea but that one is definitely up to your GM.
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Hey /pfg/, any ways to get Craft Wondrous Item earlier than level 3? Trying to get a wizard from Recruits but the game is EL6.
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>>51271304
turns out lewds is the key element to interest people anon

also the whole chivalric code part of the setting is a bit limiting to character concepts, if you look over all the existing applications it's pushed many people into playing proud lawful knight types
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I saw that ShareAnon shared Healer's Handbook. Does anyone have the scans?
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>>51271477
I was planning on playing a Paladin regardless, so I guess I wasn't affected much by it.
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Hey everyone. Finishing up the Eastern European Races this evening likely.

>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHL10oJslOkQlm8cgm2rXm88BQPzgNjQq3fAhUMg7b8/edit?usp=sharing

Or at least the base characters. Next is 1-3 racial traits each, and possibly racial feats.
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What's a decent way to put a lewd spin on something for Wrath of the Righteous? I'm thinking that I'd want to use Dragon Disciple or something similar, given that Pathfinder Vices is on the table, and I figure those bonuses to Hit Die size, Strength, and Constitution would really come in handy.

For combat, of course. And sizes
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>>51271760
Aasimar Summoner! That way you can get double-blowjobs from Trumpet Archons and Arushelae or however you spell the succubi's name.
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>>51271794
Why go for the obvious double blowjobs when you can force the two to go at each other for your own amusement?
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>>51271794
Ooh, nice. I'm tempted to go synthesist and fluff the eidolon as an idealized dragon form, but that'd kind of render the dragon disciple stuff redundant.
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>>51271794
What's a good thing to gestalt that with? I'm kind of caught at a three-way tie between Paladin, Warlord, and some other casting class like Bard.
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>>51271760
I was thinking of making a Brawler / Warder and doing the same thing. An infighter who protects her allies and vows never to let harm come to those she protects, but not being a true paladin, instead more a chaotic rambunctious girl.

Dunno, it's got merit.
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>>51271923
Gotta love a brawler girl! I'd say you should go for it.
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Is there a list somewhere that tells me what magic armors and items affect or have a mechanic around Nat Attacks? Also whats a good magic armor for around 2500? Or for lvl 7s?
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Does anyone know what kind of quality the Humble Bundle PF books all come in? Is it the same kind of thing as the ones you'd pirate?

Iron Gods is my favorite adventure path that noone will play with me and having all of the resources, including the maps and stuff available for printing or r20, might be worth it on top of the comics and everything else, but if it's just the pDF and I'd have to go after the pirate copies just to get clean maps it might not be worth it since I own physical copies of most of the books.
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>>51271923
>>51271943
Sounds fun to me, anons.
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>>51271027
Some people who get angry mope, some drop what they are doing to get moody. Zyphus became a god by channeling his salt. Be like Zyphus, never waste an opportunity to utilize your own emotions.
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>>51271923
You could do both on one side with a striker from the SoM playtest taking the guardian sphere.
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>>51272171
Hmm, haven't actually paid much attention to the SoM playtest. Maybe a brawler/striker could double down on the punches, or more likely grabbing warder/Striker so I can use ALL OF THE SUBSYSTEMS AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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>>51271516
I like it. Chevaliers are dope and I went for a bit of a transhumanist angle for her anyway.
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Jesus Christ this took way too long.

I got bored earlier and looked to see what would happen if I took my Stalker/UC Monk based off of Sanji from One Piece and brought him from Level 1 to Level 20. Criticize me if you want for the relatively low charisma, but let's face it, if Sanji had real game he'd actually get with one of the ladies he fawned over.

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1047768
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How do I run a lewd game?

Do I make a bunch of NPCs for them to sex with either IC or in brief asides? Do I encourage the PCs to pair/trio off with each other? Or is it just based on '
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>>51272656
how do I want to run it'?
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>>51272087
they are keys for paizo downloads, so same quality
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>>51272656
this never works. players will always end up doing weird shit.
just roll with shit as if it was a normal game but banging is allowed.
explain what lengths of deparvity drove you to this low.
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>>51272656
Decide what you want, first.

Public lewds, or lewds in PMs only?
PC x NPC lewds at designated points, or chance of monster rape as a constant thing during battles?
Will there by almost mandatory lewdness in the environment (dildo traps, aphrodisiac poisons, magic corridors of "you must be naked to pass")?
Will NPCs be normal people that you can bed or are they going to be blatant fetishbait?

These are all important questions.
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Is it alright that when a DM says you can have any item under a certain amount, you choose something specifically from an AP?
Are they "legal" to have in games?
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If you fags want a game maybe you should attempt to GM yourself. There's always people who will play, and you'll have complete control over everything.
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>>51272875

this
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N Jolly was not kidding about being able to make a punch girl holy shit. I love SoM's striker.
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>>51272875
I might start doing setting stuff after I get a feel for my coursework and try my hand a GMing in a few weeks.

Key word might.

It's just hard separating making game you want to play from making game you want to GM and doing so just feels like cucking yourself.
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So if Tieflings age at the human rate, my half-elf character's Tiefling waifu isn't going to make it nearly as long as he will.
That's a bit disheartening.
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I'm gonna be running a "Guns Everywhere" game soon for a Wild West theme, I was wondering what changes would happen to the game mechanics when everyone you fight usually has a gun.
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>>51273038

It's a lot like what would happen if everyone had vital strike: Nobody misses but they do less maximum damage. Everything just averages out.
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>>51273038
if youre going for wild west, please don't tell me everyone has revolvers and repeaters.
battles will be determined by grit points\ count and whoever rolls higher ini
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>>51273038
Dex and deflection bonuses become way more important since armor is literally a non issue.
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How powerful is this ability fampais? Looking for input

>Free VMC at level 1
>Gain all the VMC abilities 2 levels earlier than normal
>Class level = character level for VMC abilities
>Bonus feat? in exchange for certain VMC levels where all you get is increased class level
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>>51273129
Sounds like fun. Like a low-key gestalt
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What's the best way to get the durable party Paladin killed on the sly? Asking as the party cleric
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>>51273157
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>>51273157
Why?
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>>51273157
Demons.
Many demons.
So many demons.
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>>51273160
>>51273221
Test of Character.

>>51273250
Just loadsa summons late at night or something?
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>>51273260
>Test of Character
The fuck does that mean?
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>>51273267
testing them to make alignment based decisions
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>>51273267
Obviously the worthy would survive, but the unworthy would meet destruction!
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>>51273273
Are you the DM?
No?
Then stop it. Unless you have the DM's expressed backing, you, a player, have no right to pull this kind of shit.
You plainly said, "kill the paladin", so your intent is upfront. You need to kill yourself, barring that, exit the game before you make it shit for everyone else.
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>>51268493
A setting where each nation was given some vague prophecy and each nation has handled it differently, with some completely ignoring it and others obsessing over it.
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>>51273281
Hey, nothing wrong with testing a holy champion's might. If he can't measure up, obviously the gods made a mistake.
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>>51273315
>nothing wrong with testing a holy champion's might
Yes, when you are the DM. He has the right and the authority, you outright stated you are trying to kill him.
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>>51273325
>>51273281
>all these weakshit babby-grade players that can't stomach their precious snowflake getting fucking wasted in the middle of the night

What are you, twelve?
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>>51273281
I was just explaining what tests of character were you fucking retard.
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>>51273357
>Purposely trying to get another player killed
You're a faggot.
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>>51273359
Yes, and the DM has the right to do it, not another player.
>>51273366 is entirely correct.
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>>51273366
>you can't kill other players no matter what the ongoing story between partymembers is, th-thats illegal, PvP rules don't exist!
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>>51273370
>players arent allowed to talk with the GM in private and cooperatively work to create test of character using the PC as a means or catalyst.
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>>51273371
If shit got to that point, then the players should have long found a way to resolve the situation, or do the sensible thing and bow the character out.
Only shitlords think "I don't like this guy, so I'm going to manufacture his death!".
>>51273380
see
>>51273157
The shitlord isn't talking to his DM, he is talking to us.
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>>51273371
Bunch of fucking cucks, Anon. They can't handle the heat, so they stay out of the kitchen, I guess.
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>>51273388
I am both
>>51273371 and
>>51273380
he might be asking for ideas to present to the GM, or alternatives to bring out as a surprise twist, which, again, is perfectly permissible, just like any spontaneous combat
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>>51273157
>What's the best way to get the durable party Paladin killed on the sly? Asking as the party cleric
Ok, what level are you, what is your build, what's the paladin's build, what is the scenario at hand, and what funds are you willing to spend on this task?
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>>51273129
>tfw no VMCs I can think of wanting that isn't barbarian on a martial

It's mostly because of flavor shit really.
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>>51273405
in addition to this guy: can you invest in the help of other party members or the GM? what is your motive? what damaging/SoS spells do you hhave to combat the pally?
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>>51273407

>wizard
>sorcerer
>fighter

ok
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>>51273426
>>wizard
>>sorcerer
I don't want these for flavor reasons usually and
>fighter
Is useless on anybody not a martial.
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>>51273405
>>51273411
Level 3
Improved Initiative buffmonkey with a longsword
Improved Initiative Smitemonkey with a longsword
Scenario is whatever would be best (macro level, the party is staying at an inn, and will likely go on a dangerous dungeon crawl rumored to involve a haunting or some kind of fiend "tomorrow." [in-game])
Funds are about 500 gp plus the aforementioned longsword.
Party members can't be trusted to choose one or the other character if given the choice. Likely response is confusion or glee at the spectacle.
Motive is nipping the paladin's Fall into dishonor and depravity in the bud with a quick death (he's a deeply troubled dude whose horrible childhood formative trauma has been recently reawakened, and he's demonstrably losing control and lashing out with superviolence in combat situations; a rabid dog situation is cooking up.)
Damaging and SoS is in short supply at level 3.
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>>51273476
All right. Put time limits on the dungeon crawl, make some shit up about there being shadows in the dark.

Burn your heals early, and on people other than the tank. Get the group into a deeper fight than necessary, then pull out leaving the paladin to cover your escape.

That's about it. You can't trust your spells to work effectively on the pally with his good saves so hitpoint damage via enemy is the way to go. See if you can't get him to lead the way.

What are the other party members?
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>>51273476
you should be able to confer with your fellow party members in private, if you can convince them (IC'ly) that your motives for killing the pally are a rabid dog scenario being avoided, its in their best interest to assist you.
the method is simple
the paladin finds himself alone with the wraiths and traps and is unable to smite his way back to safety. its convenient that you have a dungeon to fuck him up.
you will NEED party cooperation, especially at such a low level and being a cleric.
>>51273518
this is another option for using the dungeon as a hazard.

in addition you could choose to not kill the pally and help prevent his fall instead, maybe thats what he wants OOC?
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>>51273518
>Witch - most likely to aid the paladin; if so, would be extraordinarily difficult to remove both
>Warpriest - most likely to attempt to kill both
>Alchemist - most likely to either aid cleric or abstain
>Rogue - almost certain to avoid any entanglement of any kind, and help no one
>Wizard - most likely to avoid entanglement or help warpriest kill both for a laugh
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>>51268948

I remember reading about a group of troll oracles, iirc in Kaer Maga, who do that sort of shit. Pretty cool,although they do regenerate
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>>51273540
Hoo boy. With that party, frankly it sounds like the warpriest is more likely to get people killed.

Why are you after the paladin's blood in particular for moving to falling into dishonour? Is there any particular scenario that you're trying to avoid?

I can't help but think trying to kill a paladin is grounds for most CLERICS falling, so need more details on your own character and background for this, along with the paladin's.
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>>51273536
I'm trying talking first, but that's easy. They're friends from before the campaign. I just wanted tips for if Peace was never an option.
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One of my players is a Magus that is currently playing host to an ancient entity. Every now and then, she has offered power to help him ( a +2 to his INT, a free crit, etc), but nothing TOO major. I want to use this entity to cause his death, but in such a way that he (and the other players) see it as a logical outcome of using her power. Any ideas?
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>>51273582
>she

They should get married. Does his kingdom recognize Ancient Sword Ghost marriage?
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>>51273590
He already has a Black Blade and is 12th in line for his kingdom's throne.
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>>51273157

> Cleric asking how to kill the Paladin

Jesus Christ I thought I was in the wrong thread for a moment...
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>>51273554
Assuming his confessions aren't exaggerated, Paladin is forgetting the world around him and descending into states of dark rage, coming to only after the damage is done. Moreover, he may be descending into Dishonor and besmirching the dignity of the Inheritor and Her legions by consorting with the Witch. She may even be the cause of this problem to begin with, but if corruption has taken root, he is the greater threat, without question. He is quite difficult to kill.
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>>51273582
make the soul gradually steal an aspect as payment or fuel to do said bonuses, kind of like using the dark side of the force too much turning palpatine into a goblin
alternatively, d100 roll everytime they use an ability. on a 1, they are killed in what manner you decide (soul sucked to hell or w/e) each use of the black blades fiat increases the DC by 1 for the next roll cumulatively
they have a maximum of 99 uses of powers assuming they have the god given luck to pass each and every time. should be more than enough
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>>51273655
Environmental hazards all the way, especially at such a low level.
dungeons are filled with them, make the paladin go into obvious trap rooms and dummy test all the puzzles and traps
and whatever you do, don't heal him.
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Lorewipe DM here.
I set up the forum for the campaign, picked someone to be the Ruler of Caesius (Human Capital, with an ancient Roman motif), and am finalizing the rules for discovering and proliferating new sources/features. Now all I need is players/playtesters. Before I post links, does anyone actually care?
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>>51273671
I've had him do a will save every time and haven't responded to his results beyond a "thanks."

I've been keeping a tally of whether they pass DC 15 (3 passes, 2 fails) and I'm trying to decide if a third failure means she takes over or not.
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>>51273699
sounds like a good plan.
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>>51273699
whats the nature of the entity? if you want it to be logical, it wouldnt fit for a celestial entity to drag them to hell for example
do they have a pact of some sort?
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>>51273745
The entity was created by a bunch of dickass wizards attempting to bind an outsider to the body of a woman. Both the woman and the outsider resisted and created something unstable. Over the course of 25,000 years, it befriended an ancient dragon that helped the entity control itself and the dragon taught the entity how to transfer to a new body ever 2 millennia in order to keep its power under control.

The party came across the entity when its current body was dying, murdered the woman housing it and the entity jumped into the mind of the magus. Since then, it has appeared to him in the form of the woman and has offered him temporary, and sometimes permanent, gifts of power.

The party just met the dragon and learned that she was, in fact, not evil at all and more of just something that /exists/ and she needs a new body. She will either take over the Magus, and then warp his body to look like her original one, or his willpower will push her back and possibly kill the two of them.
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>>51273540
Sounds like an absolute clusterfuck that will shatter the campaign no matter what you do.
Honestly, you'd be better talking to the player if what they are doing is that level of disruptive to the game.
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If you use Cornugon Smash and can stack demoralizing attempts, if you push someone to Panicked in a single round, since they can not move, are they Cowering until they can actively run on their turn?
My DM is hating me because I lock down all his enemies unless they are unintelligent, fear immune, which is less likely than you think, or undead.
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I'm pondering running a lewd campaign based on pic related. A trip into a corrupted temple of Shelyn maybe, remade to mirror a lich/something else's descent from simple pleasure into darkness and desire.

This'd be the first lewd campaign I've run; pondering what it would look like. Sexual traps, effects, items, monsters maybe. But what about the RP? Should the players be bangin' eachother IC, or should I do that in solo sessions, if at all?
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>>51274049
You should use the performance special rules at all times and homebrew lewd feats and actions you can take for performance. If you do this I highly recommend making the end boss a Gladiator Fighter/Pit Fighter. I imagine the entire dungeon is built like a giant stadium with hordes of demons cheering on the sidelines.
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What's the strangest or just most unique single or combo of Archetypes you've seen/done/want to do?
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>>51274049
Have you run previous nonlewd campaigns? This is an important question.
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>>51274049

I think that inter personal RP during session might slow down the actual game too much. At least personally, I find it takes a few hours to get through a good ERP session.
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>>51274019
>stack demoralize
U cant tho
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>>51274049

Lewd mechanics make the whole thing unfun, with some exceptions.

Examples of exception include something that the corruption/insanity mechanic from 40k. Like an arousal meter or something. If they fight sexy enemies, it can rise, and they take penalties in combat and skill checks until they do something to reset the meter.
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>>51274185
There are feats that allow that, anon, which is why I'm asking.
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>>51274201
I guess yes then, although it seems dumb. What feats?
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>miss a few threads
>wake up to a new SoM preview filled with fisticuffs

Today is gonna be a good day.
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>>51274169
Yes, quite a few, pretty practiced. I'd run it as text-only.
>>51274141
Not sure if I'd like to include all the sex feats/actions/performance/book of erotic fantasy abilities. The adventure should be a dungeon crawl as much as it is a pile of sex. Thinking maybe have reasonable standard combat and the like, just with sexy description, effects and the like.
>>51274180
Mmm, I wouldn't be surprised. What about RP with NPCs?
>>51274194
I completely agree about it being unfun. An arousal meter is a good idea, but I think I'd rather simulate it with conditions and penalties due to potions, spells, monster abilities etc.
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There isn't currently a feat that ups skill points is there?
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>>51274224

Dungeon crawling with something like >>51274194 suggested sounds like the best idea to me.

I think lewd stuff is only ever as fun as much as there is good context, so a dangerous dungeon delve provides a good backdrop to make things exciting when doing solo RP outside of group times. Of course there could be stuff going on during the game, but when you're running it I'd imagine you'd want to keep the focus on moving the pace forward, otherwise the players will all be jerking off during the game and nothing gets done.
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>>51274241
There is. It was in a villain-themed splat.
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>>51274211
Soulless Gaze Damnation feat line.
So am I right that it can push them to Panicked/Cowering?
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>>51274241
There's Fast Learner, which can get you a skill point per level if you're human and you don't want your class specific FCB.
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Is a CR 8 encounter compromised mostly of lots of enemies too much for a level 4 party? The strongest single enemies would be CR 3~4
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>>51274280
Yes.
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>>51274311
What is the party size and composition?

My party, composed of 5 PoW users and 2 full casters, has been smacking CR+2 encounter with ease.
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>>51274311
>Is a CR 8 encounter compromised mostly of lots of enemies too much for a level 4 party? The strongest single enemies would be CR 3~4
CR is really bullshit. Level 4 parties does not provide level of optimsation or competence.

Certain single CR1 enemies can be impossible to deal with for level 8 parties, and level 1 characters can take on CR4s and up if properly built.

Provide further details of party, including average point buy and optimisation levels, and what enemies you intend to send at them, and what scenario is being suggested.
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>>51274321
Would expressly be Cowering, due to being unable to flee until their turn?
I'm trying to see if I can turn this into something my party can take advantage of.
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>>51274311
A level 10 character can be as powerful as a level 13 or a level 7 character depending on how they are built, and more importantly, played.
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>>51274337
No. Turns happen simultaneously so unless they are in a corner they aren't trapped.
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What was the name of the artifact blade in Wrath of the Righteous? I'm working out a character concept I'm extremely hyped for it's not really lewd though, which might be an issue for that campaign? And I'd like to get a vague idea of where this character will be developing.

Furthermore, what's a class to gestalt with Avowed? Paladin seems like a given, but I'm kind of tickling the idea of ZweiSent OD/ZS || Avowed (Celestial.)
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>>51274311
Probably. Big issue is that battle like that, unless ran well, are rarely fun.
Due to dice, they will eventually be overrun unless they hold a superior position, or have a controller spellcaster that trivializes the entire battle with a single spell or 2.
I'd honestly use minion mechanics almost outright, as well as varying foes to keep the battle from being a slog.
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>>51274379
>ZweiSent (Zweihander Sentinel) OD (Ordained Defender)/ZS (Zweihander Sentinel)
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>>51274453

YOU HEARD ME
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>>51274462
...t-two two handers?
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>>51274536

Half-giant Prodigious Two-Weapon Fighting
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How much damage is too much damage? Has the new monk gone too far?
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>>51274554
Can a Kasatha dual wield greatswords?
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>>51274598

Yes.

Yes they can.
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>>51274554

Damn! I was gonna do dual great axes!
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>>51274605
...fucking kickass.
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>>51272171
>You could do both on one side with a striker from the SoM playtest taking the guardian sphere.
Or ward mage from the War playtest as well.
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>>51274616

>Implying we can't compare weapons
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>>51274616
>I was gonna do dual great axes!

Is his name Shagga, by any chance?
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>>51274631

O-okay!

>>51274665
Maybe... Maybe just an anagram of Shagga. Who knows!
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New thread

>>51275349
>>51275349
>>51275349
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>>51275355
IT'S ONLY PAGE 10
wait
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>>51273357
Spend it wisely.
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