MTG Modern General

>playin
Naya burn
>hating
Tron pisses me off even though i usually win, fuck that stupid deck
>buildin
Building Lantern to be That guy and because I like how unique it is.
>unban
I honestly have no clue, though I would like to see JtMS/Stoneforge unban just to see.

>>51263909

>Whatcha Playin'? grixis with baby jace and new lili

>Whatcha Hating'? people thinking that fatal push will make control good

>Whatcha wanna build? uwr flash with spell queller

>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why? unban glimpse of nature so elves can be tier 1 and i can have fun in modern again

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r8 my shitbrew

>Whatcha Playin'?
G/W Tron
>Whatcha Hating'?
Infect
>Whatcha wanna build?
Grixis mill using Isochron Scepter + Extirpate/Surgical, also lacking a few fetches for U/R prowess deck
>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Mental Misstep. Would make control decks more viable and maybe force the meta out of TURN 2-3 KILL OR UR DECK A SHIT type of deal.

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>Whatcha Playin'?
Pic related.
>Whatcha Hating'?
Tron.
>Whatcha wanna build?
Grixis Delver, seems like a very high skill cap deck with a lot of decisions to be made involving Cryptic/Kolaghan Commands and Snapcaster Mages. Just don't have the money for the fucking mana base.
>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
I don't know. I want to see Jace the Mind Sculptor unbanned because it's a fucking hilarious card, but Green Sun's Zenith wouldn't be so bad I guess.

>>51265069
>Green Sun's Zenith wouldn't be so bad I guess.
No, it would

>>51264683
i like this

>>51263909
Any of y'all know why Ugin, the Spirit Dragon spiked so hard recently?

>>51265284
people are hyping up tron HARD

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Getting real close to finishing affinity.
Free wins a FNM here I come.

>>51265361
Jesus Christ. It's that your writing?

>>51265284
Tron is t0, no other deck is viable in modern anymore
Source: the tg modern thread

>>51265373
Only when I'm trying to scribble shit out fast as possible. My actual handwriting is a lot nicer to look at.

>Grixis Delver
>Jund. I cant out 1 for 1 that shit.
>Bant Spirits
>JTMS. Realistically its a 4 mana brainstorm that gets bolted. Besides, most of the format kills you by turn 4-5 anyway. Blue will probably still not be great in modern.

>>>51265284
Also frontier

>>51263909
>Whatcha Playin'?
2 drop Gruul Zoo
>Whatcha Hating'?
In modern; not much really.
>>Whatcha wanna build?
In modern; nothing really.
>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Gitaxian Probe. The meta hasn't adjusted to it being banned yet.

>>51265284
I'm assuming frontier.

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I don't like thoughtsize, or anger.

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Alright Lads Post em

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>>51265794

>>51265794
post template

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>playing
Blue Moon

>hating
nothing yet, but I think we're all gonna be sick of lingering souls in 3 months

>building
Grixis Delver

>unbans
probably seething song, storm is dead and one better ritual won't revive it

>>51265361
My god anon... where're the Masterpieces?
If you cant afford them, at least buy some foils or cheaper cards.
>pic is my current inventions and foils (the 4th Mox and Steel Overseer are already bought, just waiting for the mailman)

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>>51266592
Oops forgot the pic

foils of cheaper cards*

>>51266592
>foiling out affinity
mox opal will be banned within two years, I would foil out a worse deck

>>51263909
>Whatcha Playin'?
Paper: Ad Naus, >Infect
Xmage: Merfolk, 8-Rack, Ad Naus, a random Tezz brew I built built on thopter foundry sword combo plus 0 mana artifacts plus tezz plus whir of invention/chalic/bridge. lotta unfun
>Whatcha Hating'?
Nothing really has been giving me too much trouble
>Whatcha wanna build?
Merfolk was fun but I can't justify building it because it's kinda bad
>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Idk, fuck banlist discussion

>>51265794
what's the joke?

>>51266625
It's been so many years of always the same, i simply stopped caring, to be honest. If they are banned, they are banned, nothing i can do.

>>51266625
>opal will be banned
Are they just going to systematically neuter every deck until nothing but shitbrews exist?

>>51266793
He doesn't know what he's talking about anon. Just ignore him.

>>51266611
>putting your masterpiece Opals in fucking Ultra Pro sleeves
10/10 would tilt against.

>>51266592
Fuck that shit, I live in Canada where every dollar is actually only 73 cents
And with 13% sales taxes, no fucking way am I foiling out anything

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>>51263909
>play
Pauper
>hate
Modern and standard
>building
Yidris edh, pauper goblins, death and taxes, mono white, izzet bounce combo (my favorite brew)

>>51267213
It's triple sleeved...

>>51267380
Its still a shitty chinaman sleeve

>>51265069
Just get a budget mana base for grixis. I run it for my delver deck and never run into problems needing specific colors.

>>51267426
I could put any shit sleeve in the middle, the most important would be the outer sleeve. In this case I chose the Commander 2014 sleeves with chrome effect, just because they were nice and have no effect during the shuffle.

>>51266611
>masterpiece opal
Why would anyone ever want this over Volkan Mox Opal?

>>51267560
Because the reason people buy other masterpieces, because they are prettier (picture, frame, etc), because the collection value, because the rarity, because the "pump factor" (it's gold after all), or because it's simply different. Could be many things, you just need to choose one.

I know this is a modern thread but can anyone tell me how long it took them to stop sucking at FNM draft? Have been drafting since Kaladesh started (after a 10 year hiatus) and I've only made top 8 once.

>>51267317
Goblins is so bland in Pauper though. You either draw into a quick match, or you stutter until your opponent stomps your face in/wipes your board.
Bland in other formats too.

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>playing UG infect

>hating eidolon and chalice ATM

>don't have anything in mind, besides tinkering with mill with heavier black removal like surgical and extirpate

>>51267681
Really depends on how experienced you are. Draft is kind of its own thing- but if you're good at limited it really helps your constructed game. Carry over doesn't really work the other way around.

is modern worth getting into at this point or nah?

>>51267734
It's only going to get more expensive, even with MM reprints
If you have the money and want to, go for it

Finally got around to building 8 Rack anything besides thoughtsieze, inquisitions, lilianas, and surgical extractions are welcome the sideboard still needs the dismembers & languishes along with the two dakmor salvages main board.

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/poor-mans-8-rack-1/

Anything suggestion wise would be great.

Also thread questions

>Whatcha Playin'?
Mono Red Burn & 8 Rack

>Whatcha Hating'?
Leyline of Sanctity while I am always annoyed with a opening hand leyline hosers have to exist in modern, Thankfully most people in my meta run free win red or jund so its rare to see one.

>Whatcha wanna build?
Idk lantern control has always fascinated me however I am just to lazy to go out and build it.

>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Seething Song would have very little effect on the modern meta as a whole citing that the only place it would be run is storm decks and they got hit pretty hard with the git gud probe ban.

>>51268346
>Languish

Nigga, just get Mutilate if you run mono black.

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=MUTILATE

>>51263909
>>Whatcha Playin'?
G/R Tron
>>Whatcha Hating'?
Nothing really, I don't have the time to go out to FNM
>>Whatcha wanna build?
Esper Narset Transcendent seems like a fun list
>>
I just want Baleful Strix or Recoil to be Modern playable

>>51268373
Problem is due to the discarding of lands via ravens crime and the small pox languish is a guaranteed -4/-4 mutilate most of the time would only be 2 or 3 -1/-1

>>51268429
Mutilate costs 4 mana same as languish, and you run only swamps so even with 4 on the battlefield it is always guaranteed -4/-4.

>>51268458
good point didn't think about it like that

>>51266793
According to this shitty board yes.
Lets honestly take a look at the modern decks theyve killed in the past.
>Blazing Shoal, Ponder, Preordain, Rite of Flame, Cloudpost, and Green Suns Zenith are banned
All good here Storm is a deck that belongs in Legacy and Blazing infect is much too fast. GSZ is just a really good card and Cloudpost is better Tron.
>Punishing Fire and Wild Nacatl are banned
Punishing Fire is another card thats too good and the Wild Nacatl decision is reversed later. Another good update.
>Valakut unbanned
Good
>Bloodbraid Elf, Seething Song and Second Sunrise banned
Jund needed a nerf and Storm again shouldnt exist in Modern, Eggs is dumb. Good update.
>Deathrite Shaman is banned, Bitterblossom and Wild Nacatl are unbanned
DRS is way too good. Its the most played creature in Legacy thats saying something, good ban and unbans.
>DTT, Treasure Cruise, and Pod are banned
Another good update. These cards are also too good.
>Splinter Twin and Summers Bloom are banned
Amulet Blooms a dumb deck but Twin is about the only time I felt they made a mistake on the ban list. I feel like it wouldnt be broken if it was here today.
>Eye of Ugin is banned
Everyone wanted this
>Ancestral Visions and Sword unbanned
Unbans finally
>Probe and Troll
Good bans that nerf uninteractive hyper aggro/combo decks

So theyve made one to two mistakes in 4 + years of bannings. Why are people complaining again?

>>51268735
>Eggs is dumb
Kek I'm sitting in a modern game, f6'ing because this cunt decided to play eggs on a shit connection

>>51268735
The hat are the cards, in your opinion, based on the previous bans, would receive a ban?

>>51268815
I would have said Chalice but I don't see that happening anymore

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Lantern is safe from anything getting banned right?

>>51268960
Considering it hasn't shown up anywhere since GP Oklahoma, I'd say so.

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>>51263909
>Whatcha wanna build?

Devotion to Green feat. Kiora

Holy shit is the deck fun, it's not so much the lines of play or the math that I enjoy as much as the janky green bombs you get to employ.

Kiora is being slept on in green devotion, as well as pic related 1of. Extending PCommand loops since BFZ.

>>51268815
Nothing should be banned until it proves itself to be a problem. Right now theres no unfair strategy thats dominant so no bans are needed

>>51269103
Post a build?

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This retarded Tezzerator brew is fucking hilarious, it causes almost lantern levels of asshurt in players.
You run a shit ton of 0 mana artifacts, Bridge, Chalice, a Tezz or two, then a 4 Reverse Engineer and 4 Thoughtcast to draw into either Tezz or Whir of Invention/Thopter Sword combo
Just beat infect by jamming a turn 2 Trinisphere into a turn 3 Bridge and just shutting him off completely.
Had someone on Bogles concede when he saw Mechanized Production, which is sweet because with 8 thopters you just win
List for those interested

>Recent Block reversal
>Recent Banning Announcement

So Wizards wanted shorter blocks, but the fan outlash was so big we have longer lasting blocks again.
In double reaction wizards announces "More aggressive banning, and more frequent." While I'm certain they were mostly looking at standard, Modern will definitely feel this sting too.

Wizards is trying to have their cake and eat it too by constantly shaking up the format? I wonder if this new order will have rapid unbanning as well as bannings... You know, just to shake things up.

>>51263909
>Whatcha Playin'?
Kiki Chord
>Whatcha Hatin'?
I don't hate Tron and R/G Valakut decks, but sometimes they can be difficult to interact with.
>Whatcha wanna build?
A Grixis deck, whether Delver or Control. I just want to use Snapcaster in a deck.
>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
I think Stoneforge Mystic has the least amount of impact to the format. I would say Bloodbraid Elf, but since they unbanned Ancestral Vision, which I liked, I doubt they would ever unban BBE at this point.

>>51268735

I honestly feel like Punishing Fire should not have been banned but rather Grove instead. The card is fair outside of the Grove engine.

>>51269389
>More aggressive banning, and more frequent
Since when? They've said they'd put out more announcements but that they wouldn't alter the frequency of bans

How absolutely trash is suicide zoo now? I don't even want to look at my deck anymore honestly

>>51269478
If you're willing to shell out for a set of goyfs, the deck is doing fine

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>>51269466
Punishing fire is unplayable without Grove you tard

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>>51263909
Hey so maybe /tg/ is already very aware and knows the answer, but what was the reason for the price spike in magic in the last year(s) or so?

If you look up any card and I mean ANY card you'll notice that it spiked up around New-Zendikar to after Modern masters. Some are greater spikes than others, some are before Eldrich Moon, some are before Battle for Z, but all within or CLOSE TO that time span.

Why?

And many cards have not come down from that price. Why? What happened?

>>51269486
I already have goyfs, but really? Cause last I remember probe was one of the absolute best cards in the deck

>>51269511
It's been 5-0 in leagues lately, it seems pretty well positioned so I don't see it going away any time soon
The deck just got less combo focused and plays a little more like a real zoo deck

>>51269506
As much as I hate to say it I got into the game during BfZ and so did a few other people I know. I think there might have been an increase in overall players during the block.

>>51269543
So what card has been replacing probe? And yeah, I always felt it could be just a strong deck that kills itself but doesn't go all in

>>51269562
Traverse the Ulvenwald is what I've been seeing

>>51269467
>Since when? They've said they'd put out more announcements but that they wouldn't alter the frequency of bans
Uuum. Yes, true. I suppose I mean to imply there is more Opportunity to change (not necessarily ban) more- and not necessarily that they will change anything.
One (I) would assume that giving themselves more opportunities to change current metas means that wizard is looking to get a finer control on things.
But yes you are right, just because they CAN doesn't mean they WILL, but the change does coincide with their recently stated desire change up the format more often.

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>playin
rug and grixis delver, skred, reanimator on cockatrice. skred in paper
>hatin
ponza tilts me so hard. i don't know why. i don't lose to it especially often
tron however is my most hated deck. i just had the pleasure of winning a game 2 via molten rain->surgical, ripping a mine out of his hand
>wanna build
chipping away at grishoalbrand
>unban
i'm pretty clueless about how the banned list cards play but i kinda want preordain to come off now that probe is on.

>>51265069
i enjoyed your meme, skred brother

>>51269347
looks pretty sik. how many games have you won via animating darksteels?

>>51269495

That's the entire fucking point. Ban the enabler.

>>51269695
>Ban an actual playable card so you can unban a worthless shit card
You must already work for wizards

>2 artifact based sets
>Zero good modern artifacts released
Why?

>>51269695
I hear you on that, Anon.
Fuck Grove.

>>51269690
>looks pretty sik. how many games have you won via animating darksteels?
None, people either RQ when they figure out what's going on or I get them with Thopters. Honestly thinking of just cutting Tezz for another whirr and another production, it's so slow

>>51269742
Masterpieces :^)

>>51269742
Nam flashbacks from the last artifacts set
Maro had nightmares of getting a big black darksteel dick from arcbound ravager and getting throatfucked by disciple of the vault

>Whatcha Playin'?
Some variation of Tron, usually GW or GB as of late.

>Whatcha Hating'?
Before bans, Dredge. Now, probably burn.

>Whatcha wanna build?
Abzan Reanimator, but I suck at brewing, not to mention I'm like 95% sure it'd suck.

>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Stoneforge Mystic, just to see how it'd shake things up. But if there was ever a time where it'd come off the list, it would have been before the Troll and Probe bans.

Does anyone play bloomless titan? Is it just a trash meme? I want to play a decent combo deck again, but ad nauseum is just so fucking repetitive with literally 1 line no matter what

>>51264683
birds need to be nobles. finks and some amount of smiter can go to side for spell queller, reflector mage and selfless spirit. you still lose to tron without revokers in the 75.

>>51265069
Ive been usibg Flooded strands over scalding tarns because im broke. They fetch eveeything but Mountain and Bloodcrypt

>>51269715

Grove goes only into one deck. Pfire would go into any deck that looks to splash R for anything that lifegain would trigger.

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Redpill me on modern Jund

>>51270064
It's just a pile of good cards

>>51270064
Costs an assload of money, but once you have it built, it's the only deck you'll ever play.

>>51270064
Expensive, but if it's your cup of teat then it is worth it especially since it likely won't see any bans

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>>51268960
Mox Opal ban is an inevitable ban

Ancient Stirrings is also

It's just a time-bomb of when an affinity or tron wins too many games in a row or a new card gets printed

>>51270064
Do you like fair value decks?

You're playing the best cards in Green, Red, and Black, with a fair chance to beat any deck in the format if you play well.

And when I say beat, I mean hammer them into the ground and use their blood as lube.

>>51269997
>punishing fire goes into any deck
Literally no

>>51270161
Except Tron

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>>51270070
>>51270076
>>51270121
>>51270161
I'm highly considering to trade my two decks for it. infect and valakut
Just because I want consistency.

>>51270177

Nice selective quoting faggot.

>>51270159
>mox opal is an inevitable ban
>stirrings also
Affinity gets hated out and I don't think tron will ever be that dominant.

Watch out burn players, if your deck puts up results they might ban bolt.

>>51270236
You really honestly believe punishing fire would see any play without grove?

What's the best deck against bant Eldrazi?

>>51270246

Considering that Lantern is now playing Inventor's Fair yes it would against any decks with access to R to beat through Codex Shredder's and Ghoulcallers bell.

>>51270432
>lantern control
>not even 2% of the meta
>but people are going to bring in a strictly worse shock to combat it
Ebin

>>51270659

Online meta and local meta is totally different. There's a large amount of Lantern Control, Scapeshift and Jund in my area.

>>51270243
>affinity gets hated out

Not really about that. It's the fact its just free mana and they don't like it. If they were ever going to ban a card from affinity it would be the Mox. Not to mention it plays a degenerate role in decks like lantern control and any other future deck it fits in.

You have to be mental not to see that they don't like the card or the mechanic in modern

>>51270243
>affinity gets hated out

Then why did they just ban a dredge card?

Checkmate

What's the blue card that needs unbanning to make blue decks decent in modern?

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>>51270791

>>51270791

Preordain

>>51270791
I would like to see Counterspell and Stoneforge Mystic, maybe this >>51270926 as well. I don't think Jace would help that much.

>>51263909
>>Whatcha Playin'?
Nothing, nobody at my city plays Modern anymore, only Frontier and Duel Commander.
>>Whatcha Hating'?
Having invested in this format.
>>Whatcha wanna build?
I'm three cards from completing Show and Tell for Legacy since Legacy players hold their own big tournaments with or without WotC "support".
>>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
The whole banlist has to be remade.

>play Tron
>Want to build Ponza

why am I such a degenerate?

>>51270208
Expect to take at least 6 months before you really know how to pilot the deck to good finishes. Like sure you'll stomp shitbrews out of the box, but Jund players have to really know their metagame inside and out and tweak their list accordingly. And then there's technical play which is harder than most other decks in modern to get right, since you're never guaranteed a win in any matchup. And you still lose to Tron and valakut.

>>51270791
Gitaxian Probe

>>Plying
Dredge
>>Hating
Nothing
>>Building
Cheeri0s, Affinity, and Bubble Hulk

Can't wait to see people's faces when I bring out Bubble Hulk or Cheeri0s to FNM lol (they already know I'm building Affinity)

>>51265434
No it's not. It's impossible to write this bad and not be a retard.

>>51271970
Mine's way worse even when I'm not trying to go fast

Only girls have nice handwriting

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>>51269243
1 Oath of Nissa
4 Utopia Sprawl
4 Arbor Elf
4 Birds
2 Voyaging Satyr
4 Witness
4 Selkie
1 Polukranos
3 Kiora
4 Garruk
4 Primal Command
1 Acidic Slime
1 Woodland Bellower
1 Greenwarden of Murasa
1 Genesis Wave
1 Panglacial Wurm

21 Lands, I run 7 fetchlands with forests and breeding pool, and of course 4 Nyx.

>>51270926
Is there any particular reason to have preordain to remain on the ban list?

Twin is gone and storm got castrated

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This needs to come off the ban list

>>51272394
Twin needs to come off first

>>51272286
Miscellaneous spice:
Dryad Arbor
Courser of Kruphix
Hornet Queen
Nissa Voice of Zendikar
Nissa Worldwaker
Wolfbriar Elemental

Next-level spice:
Plow Under

>Playing
Abzan Toughness/Doran (surprisingly crushes)
>Hating
Twisted Image
>Building
GR Valakut in modern and tweaking Atraxa enchantment control/combo/recursion

>>51272470
>>51272470
Bruh twin so good if it's in your color you may as well run a copy or two

>>51270733
Because it allowed an Aggro deck to outrace both Burn and Affinity without dropping anywhere near dangerously low life levels?

>>51272394
>wanting every match to go to time
nah, go fuck yourself

>>51272723
>delverbabby can't handle real control games
lul XD

I want to get into modern and i like big creatures and aggro, how's this deck?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/18-01-17-stompy-budget/
pls no bully

>>51273358
Play burn or affinity

>>51268735
>combo doesn't belong in Modern
>Modern's powerlevel should be about the same as that of Standard

Go back to Frontier, faggot.

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Is it possible to properly utilize energy in Modern?

>>51270193
Surgical + Fulminator on the play or Ghost Quarter. proceed to beatdown with goyfs which they cannot answer without their mana engine (since there's no reason to play GW after the bans).

>>51270719
Free mana was never a problem in itself, they've only banned storm enablers so far. Affinity without Opal (or Artifact lands/ancient tomb) is literally unplayable since you can never drop haymakers or Spellskite/Plating/Chalice/Ravager t1 at which point it makes more sense to just play Burn or Zoo for both equal speed, resiliency to spot removal and immunity to design mistakes like Stony Silence.

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>>51273453
Yes

>>51272286
Here is the list ive been running kessig+nykthos mana is stupid. I once swung with a 38/6 ooze with trample. I feel like knight of the reliquary and coco are really great here

>Whatcha Playin'?
Rebuilding Molten Vortex control
>Whatcha Hating'?
Modern
>Whatcha wanna build?
Molten Vortex control
>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Jace because blue is dead

My shop from time to time organizes casual modern tourneys, which is basically decks below 50$ so everyone can play.

Entry fee is like 4 bucks or something similiary silly and I made a brew just to see how it'll work.

Will possibly gift the deck I made to a friend who's starting out with MTG if it performs well.

Rate my shit brew.

7x Forests
4x Islands
3x Temple of Mystery
4x Evolwing Wilds
2x Terramorohic Expanse
1x Blighted Woodland

3x Endkess One
3x Warriors' Lesson
4x Hardened Scales
2x Rancor
4x Explore
3x Thrummingbird
3x Vinelasher Kudzu
4x Managorger Hydra
4x Chasm Skulker
2x Bred for the hunt
2x Give/Take (would put Bioshifts instead but got only one)
3x Inspiring Call
2x Tezzerete's Gambit

>>51263909
>every blue deck ever except for Kiln Fiend need 4 Snapcasters

By the way, is Kiln Fiend dead without Probe?

>>51273653
Just build mono R

>>51273733
Yes.

>>51273733
>By the way, is Kiln Fiend dead without Probe?

Hell no. But it also depends on the deck you built.
My U/R prowess is more on all in attack, how ever i run a couple more protection spells for fire breathing doggo since probe ban.

>>51273746
>mono red

Bruh, I wanted to make a deck with decent chunk of interactions so he can learn the game.
Instead of going LIGHTNING BOLTx4 and tap my hasty shit.

>>51273751
I needed two Things to complete it, just fuck my shit up.

>>51273757
Can I see your list? What did you replace them with?

>>51273771
Mine list looks like this.

2x Bloodstained Mire
2x Flooded Strand
2x Island
3x Mountain
1x Polluted Delta
4x Spirebluff Canal
2x Steam Vents
2x Wooded Foothills

4x Kiln Fiend
4x Monastery Swiftspear
4x Stormchaser Mage

6 Sorceries
4x Slip Through Space
2x Artful Dodge

3x Expedite
3x Mizzium Skin
4x Mutagenic Growth
3x Rush of Adrenaline
4x Temur Battle Rage
3x Titan's Strength
2x Dispell
2x Turn Aside

>>51273876
Forgot about sideboard.

2x Apostle's Blessing
1x Dispel
1x Turn Aside
3x Brute Force (to replace Rush of Adrenaline ins less creature oriented matchups)
4x Vapor Snag
1x Mizzium Skin
3x Wild Slash (testing this out since with doggo it always hits for 4 instead 3 like Lightning Bolt)

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>tfw when my local players stopped packing as much grave hate
>tfw still playing Dredge

>>51273876
Why don't you just run Delver?

>>51273976
Because he's a bitch and a half to get at my place.

I'd put him instead of Stormchaser in a hearthbeat.

>>51273876
Interesting, but don't you think the lack of card draw hurts this deck? Why don't you run Bolt? What would your ideal list look like?

>>51274007
>Lack of card draw
Nigger haha what the fuck looolllllll.

>>51274007
>>Why don't you run Bolt
because
>(testing this out since with doggo it always hits for 4 instead 3 like Lightning Bolt)

Was thinking of throwing in 4x Serum Visions but honestly, this deck has enough cantrips for draw that also boost my shit.

I run expedite even just to cast it on opponent creatures on his end step for draw.
And it saved my hand multiple times already, but I'm still tinkering with the list, was thinking removing one basic or Spirebluff and replacing it with a fetch .

>>51274012
There's no Visions, no Sleight of Hand, Expedite and Slip aren't enough since they don't offer any kind of card quality.

>>51274038
Am I missing something here? Wild Slash is a shock that doesn't let damage be prevented.
And why would you replace Stormchase with Delver, like you said here >>51273985 ? Doesn't he fit in your plan even better?
desu I'd replace the Expedite with Serum Visions

>>51274066
>Am I missing something here? Wild Slash is a shock that doesn't let damage be prevented.

I got Kiln Fiend on the table, I cast wild slash, Kiln Fiend trigger goes on the stack and resolves, wild slash looks for creature that has power 4 or more and finds Kiln fiend so it hits for 4 instead of 2.

And honestly I'll try with Serum Visions instead of Expedites to see how it goes and same goes for Delver instead of Stormchaser if i will find a fucking playset of them.
(seriously, it's a pain in the dick at my store to find some heavily played commons)
same goes for some pauper and legacy cards, never seen anyone with ponder for sale/trade as an example

>>51274104
Wait, I just realized I'm a fucking retard with the Wild Slash.

Throwing in bolts instead.

>>51274117
Atleast now I remember why I've put those there.
there are a couple of guys playing with mill/turbofog decks at my store
I still feel like a fucking retard tho

>>51274117
kek
I like your take on prowess, I just think it's less consistent than the standard list, albeit more explosive. I'm going to do some brewing.
Why don't decks that run Bedlam Reveler also run Thought Scour?
I know how you feel, it's super hard to find commonly played cards here, and at the same time you can only sell expensive cards to guys who think they're smart because they're saving $20 by buying your $100 cards

>>51274167
>Why don't decks that run Bedlam Reveler also run Thought Scour?

Well, because you want to use those spells to actually deal damage/controll your draws instead of filling the graveyard?

Imo best Izzet deck to use him in would consist of 3-4x Thing In the ice, 2-4 Guttersnipes and 4x Delvers.
But it would also require to run a heavily draw based deck with Visions, Scours and maybe Telling Time, also negates and shit which would make the deck even slower in the process.
And to use Bedlam to his full extent, you'd need to empty your hand quiet fast not to waste precious spells.
Drawing 3 lands from Bedlam isn't a fun thing and it happened to me couple of times

>>51274215
Thought Scour draws at instant speed, fills your graveyard with instants and sorceries, which makes Bedlam cost even less, and you can ruin your opponent's top if you really have to. It has the potential to be better than Sleight of Hand

So, has SCG completely stopped doing magic streams? Is it permanent or just a lull before the new set? Also, I'm pretty sure that the Modern leagues on MTGO have lost a lot of players since the bannings. Is Modern dying, bros?

>>51274247
I just don't like the idea of milling myself
Mill decks I've played against still haunt me to this day

>>51274365
>mill decks
If your meta is full of weird shit like that, I want to play a few FNMs over there with ELDRAZI TRON
milling yourself is statiscally fine, but if you're doing that, you might as well play Snapcaster Mage. Why does he even exist?

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>>51274392
>I want to play a few FNMs over there with

Being milled for 40+ cards on turn 3 because you cracked expedition map isn't a quiet fun experience.
and the next card I've drawn was Emrakul to add insult to injury without ability to cast her

>>51274410
>implying I wouldn't laugh if that kind of shit happened

>>51274452
Meta at my store is actually quiet competetive, but on FNM's it's not uncommon to see 40+ people playing at my store.

So you see ALOT of different type of decks, not necessarily t0/t1 decks only.

The only thing my meta lacks are infect decks.

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>Whatcha Playin'?

Boros burn
>Whatcha Hating'?

Tron, over played but burn takes it out alright most of the time

>Whatcha wanna build?

Working on a control homebrew pic related. needs blood moons

>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?

Probe, seriously there is no good reason why.

>>51274599
I would break my fucking computer screen if I ever played against something like this holy fuck this doesn't need blood moons at all.

>>51274599
Needs Pooling Venom not Blood Moon.

How about this one

Gitronxian probe
U sorcery
If an opponent controls a non basic land, you may pay 2 life rather than pay this spells Mana cost.
Look at target opponent's hand. Draw a card.

>>51267682
It is bland in every format. Overdone even. It's just what I have been able to build from my collection without spending anything. The izzet bounce combo is fun but fragile. My monowhite used to hang in modern in the right matchups

>>51274599
potential top 8 deck. Keep working on this anon. Top kek at the name.

Try getting Lilliana of the Veil and work in remand.

>>51274599
>land control
>no stone rain

fuck sea's claim and put in some LD.

>>51274599
Needs some kind of creature or just go for superfriends control instead of imprison in the moon.

Ashiok is fucking nice but I would add in Lilliana of the veil and Ral Zarek or Tamiyo, the Moon Sage. You need some kind of counter spell too.

Superfreinds would be my choice but it's up to you.

>>51274599

That's disgusting. I love it.

>>51274517
That sounds fun, my meta is full of people who go to PPTQs and have 2-3 t1 decks, like Abzan, Grixis, Zoo and Bant Eldrazi, and some budget decks.

>>51274599
10/10 would rage playing against.

>>51274599
Stealing the fuck out of this list anon.

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>>51274610
>>51274625
>>51274677
>>51274696
>>51274831
>>51274872
>>51274970
>>51274982
shit lol I did not expect all of this out of a shit homebrew. but ok ,I'll fiddle with it, not that I can afford lilly or anything, I can try my chance at chests tho.

and yea anon go and yank the list I honestly would love to see something I cooked up be edited with better, more expensive things go on to a top 8 spot

Besides fatal push, what is the best card in the new set for modern?

>>51272857
>control baby can't handle quick decisions
Lol

>>51273559
Why did Nissa become a juggalo?

>>51275479
Renegade rallier

>>51275598
lol

So, how long until Wizards bans the new Breaking//Entering combo. It can consistently win on turn 3 and often wins on turn 2.

>>51275800
Never because some chuckle fuck will make the excuse of "run deflecting palm, counter magic, or fog." And WotC will go with it.
My bet is that they will make some rule errata that prevents you from doing so, but who knows.

>>51275800
Post list

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>>51275800

>>51276037

>Tier or or tier 2 decks ONLY
>he's on death's shadow
>blow his ass out with living end
keeeeek

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Is there a single deck that makes this qt3.14 viable?

>>51277035
No

>>51277035
He's insane in limited. That's about it.

>>51277035
He is alright in stompy, but dungrove elder is a better 3 drop.

With all the Fatal Pushes flying around thought about this, yaynay?
4 Cranial Plating
4 Mox Opal
3 Springleaf Drum
3 Chalice of the Void
4 Arcbound Ravager
2 Etched Champion
3 Memnite
4 Ornithopter
3 Signal Pest
4 Steel Overseer
4 Vault Skirge
3 Master of Etherium
1 Ensoul Artifact
4 Blinkmoth Nexus
4 Darksteel Citadel
4 Inkmoth Nexus
4 Spire of Industry
1 Island
1 Thoughtcast
SB: 2 Grafdigger's Cage
SB: 1 Spellskite
SB: 2 Etched Champion
SB: 1 Blood Moon
SB: 2 Ghirapur Aether Grid
SB: 2 Dismember
SB: 2 Spell Pierce
SB: 2 Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 1 Sea Gate Wreckage
>>51275800
Never, because the deck is bad.

>>51272857
I'm a burn player and I think you should go fuck yourself. Top makes games take too long because the people who want to play Top in their decks are the kind of cucks who sniff their own farts while debating if they should play thier remand or mana leak against a tapped out opponent.

>>51278169
>running chalice in Affinity
Oh shit nigger what are you doing?

>>51278436
Exactly. The same kind of asshole that durdles his way to a draw game at a prerelease

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>>51278436
>I'm a burn player

>>51278436
Wait do people actually ask themselves that

>>51278502
Countering most of the format, including Path Bolt Push discard spells, basically no downside to myself?

>>51273595
>>51272286
HOLY SHIT i forgot to actually link it...
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/12-12-16-mono-green-devotion/

>>51278553
>basically no downside to myself?
You can't play half your deck? Seems like quite the downside.

>>51278612
Count the one-drops in the deck, retard.

>>51278553
Even the biggest retard knows that 1 for 1s are incredibly suboptimal against affinity. If you are afraid of Push, you are a bad affinity player.

>>51278673
Depends entirely on the draw, if you can't stick to Champion or draw a Ravager you can certainly be fucked by paths and bolts.

>>51278746
Well golly gee anon, that's like arguing that Layline is bad against burn, because they could draw a hand of nothing but Guides and Cats

>>51278824
Leyline _is_ bad vs Burn, you're putting 3 skip your draw steps in your deck to stay alive on average 1-2 more turns, they can just bolt their own face for prowess and/or draw one of their 4-of Destructive Revelries.

>>51278667
They're pretty important
You think chalice is worth the mana in affinity?
>if you keep bad hands you get blown out by targeted removal
Holy fuck. You need to stop. You don't get to call anyone a retard

>>51278979
>you always get good hands and/or never get hands that goldfish fast but are vulnerable to spot removal hurr durr

>>51278673
>>51278979
Not the same anon but I also play Chalice in Affinity and wow you're both pretty fucking retarded. Do you actually play Affinity, or Modern for that matter? Chalice is free wins against a lot of decks.

>>51279107
>Chalice is free wins against a lot of decks.
and the number 1 deck that its a free win against IS affinity.

>>51279151
You have to be trolling at this point, how do you remember to breathe?

>>51279196
Please enlighten me anon, what decks just "Lose" to chalice other than burn and affinity?
>Jund
Nope
>Fish
Nope
>infect
Not really
>Valakut
Lol no
>Storm
isn't a deck anymore RIP Git Probe

>>51279073
You'll get even fewer good hands if you clog up your deck with chalices you fucking simpleton. You dropped Galvanic blast and shaved drum and signal pest for that shit?

>Willingly making 12+ cards in your deck dead
>So they can't bolt your memnite sometimes

>playing
Ad nauseam
>hatin
nothing
>wanna build
nothing
>unban
everything

>>51279273
>Fish
On the play t1 slows down enough since they cant stick a vial.
>infect
Yes? They can only dump their spells to hopefully feed Become Immense at some point.
Good vs Burn.
Living End cannot win if you set it zero unless they draw Chewers.
Ad Nauseam, forces an Unlife to combo and you can make Inkmoth.
Tron, slows their setup unless they have the nuts.
Suicide Zoo in case someone plays it.

>>51279462
You already have good matchups against these decks. Infect is the only one you don't and it's not a bad matchup anyway

>playing
Bogles
Tooth and Nail
>hatin
Tron
>wanna build
I'm brewing Tooth and Belcher and it's fun. I want to build Ascendancy combo but the deck is dead.
>unban
Stoneforge, but ban Batterskull

I hate to keep shilling my shitty Tezz brew but holy fuck the amount of asshurt and ragequits it has caused is absurd. Even when I was playing 8-Rack and Lantern I didn't get ragequits and shittalking like this
I never realized how savage turn 1 Chalice into turn 2 bridge into turn 3 Tezzeret -> Animating a Darksteel relic was, especially when you set up a thopter sword combo the next turn
I'm not saying it's even tier 3 but holy fuck is it funny. Reverse Engineer makes this shit soooo consistent

>>51279598
Nice to hear dude. Tezz is cool and I can vouch that bridge is a salt inducer. Thopter sword is so annoying when it goes off.
I had this guy down to one life, twice, only for him to come back through durdling with foundry

>>51279521
Holy fuck, you need to stop baiting.

Actually nevermind you said that Chalice on 1 is free wins against Affinity so you probably are legitimately retarded.

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>Watcha Playin'?
Affinity, like always.
>Watcha Hating'?
Nothing
>Watcha wanna build?
Nothing
>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Probe just got banned, and dredge just got fucked. Let's just chill out and see what happens next.

Are budget modern decks on mtggoldfish amd tcg any good? Id like to play fnm without getting my shit slapped

>>51280175
Different guy, fuckwad. If you think those are bad matchups you are the worst affinity player around.
>gets called out
>s..st..stop b..baiting

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>>51280202
>image

>>51280275
>you only bring your sideboard cards against your bad matchups

Might be a different guy, but the retardation you both share is cut by the same cloth

>get called out for being retarded
>s-stuttering greentext will save me!

For someone who's slowly assembling Grixis delver, which would be acceptable to play in the interim? UR or UB delver?

>>51280221
Depends on what you consider any good.
They're maybe tier 3 or 4, they can scrape some wins against actual decks, but expect winrates of around 10-30% against high tier decks.
Look at your FNM meta, if people bring weird brews you'll probably be fine, if it's Affinity/Jund/Junk/Tron/Infect, you won't get anywhere near the top half.
But we're talking decks that are 10-20 times more expensive here so you can't really complain.

>>51280407
Fuck off. Mainboard chalice to defeat favourable matchups?
Christ, why am I even arguing with someone who is ruining affinity with chalices. Kill yourself you fucking cretin

>>51280468
>mainboard chalice

Yup, definitely retardation

>>51269997
I play groves in Lantern.

>>51280492
>>51278169
??????????

>>51274599
I like you.

skred or BW Eldrazi taxes?

>>51267681
Took me about a year after I started drafting, two months after I started actually caring about my performance. Get to know the set, get to know what a good limited card looks like, and get good at the game. Also deck building is a skill that can be much improved over time and practice

>>51280776
As in buying them or you already have them and don't know what to plsy

Anyone have that spicy rug delver list with traverse and reveler? I forgot to save it

>>51280221
Just build mono green stompy friend, like $70 and the best budget option without sacrificing anything important.
Or mono red burn, the mtggoldfish isn't that horrible

Is now a good time to pick up Stoneforge Mystic, or should I hold off? Is the price going to dip anytime soon?

>>51280435
UR. Snap bolt can't be replaced.

>>51282575
This is the modern thread. She banned

>>51280776
I would say that Skred seems more fun, since it's a Red CONTROL deck (also an amazing excuse to play Blood Moons, the most rage inducing card).
Though with the new Fatal Push, can really "push" BW Eldrazi up in the tier ladder.

>>51280221
If you need super budget: Mono-Green Stompy
Budget friendly (you can buy the most expensive cards later): GW Aura Hexproof (aka Boggles)
Budget (it's slightly playable) but can be upgraded (but with much higher cost): Burn, Affinity (and possibe Dredge)
Not budget but medium price (ignoring the previous decks): GW/GB Tron, Merfolks.
Budget and i enjoy the Professor's videos, but will stress about it: U-Tron

what is the best merfolk list?
thinking about building it as it looks super fun

>>51283091
Mono blue. White is not worth it

>>51283135
You still play 4 Wanderwine Hub in the main to avoid getting Choked
I stand by having pay no heed in the SB to avoid getting insta-gibbed by Valakut

>>51282940
i can't see how fatal push will help BWeldrazi 'nd taxes...path to exile still work way better in order to synergy with wasteland strangler and also the deck doesn't run any fetch, so it could be hard pull the revolt out from push...

>>51283434
Might be worth siding some in in favor of paths against low CMC decks like infect and affinity since it doesn't give your opponent a free land.

>>51283357
Choke is not a threat anymore. Good job making fish vulnerable to blood moon though

>>51283571
Who's boarding moon in against fish?

>>51283656
Anyone with a brain now that they run

4 wanderwine
1 oboro
1 minamo
1-4 caverns
4 mutavaults

The better question is who is even packing choke in their side?

>>51283521
below than 2x fatal push in side is not worth
more than 3x fatal push in side is too much you risk to subtract important spaces for more usefull cards.
also, since the deck runs 4x leonin arbiter the free land, like in the ghost quarter case, most of the times is not a problem.

Why is Tron being hyped so much?

>>51284405
Because two aggro decks took a hit from the last ban announcement.

>>51272331

Numerous theories to it. Too many cantrips in Modern, too good of a cantrip, makes combo decks effective, one of Rosewater's friends was sitting on a pile of Serum Visions etc. Who knows really these days since Wizard's explanations and reasonings are inconsistent.

I hate what they did to new Tezzeret

>>+1: Create a colorless artifact token named Etherium Cell with "Tap, Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool."

>dimir colors
>ramp

I seriously think MTG HQ while inventing some cards do a metric ton of LSD.

>>51284787

I think AER Tezz's good for Standard with Improvise. However I think intro deck Tezzeret is better though for eternal formats. Definitely a worthy try for Vintage steel city type decks.

Is tron a control deck or a combo deck? It plays like a control deck, but it seems like it shares a lot of weaknesses with combo decks.

>Whatcha Playin'?
Was playing G/W Hatebears till I sold the deck to pay for gas money because no job at the time.
>Whatcha Hating'?
Merfolk. Fucking hate that match up with so limited removal.
>Whatcha wanna build?
Likely Abzan. I got three thoughtsiezes and a playset of Pushes on the way.
>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Stoneforge. The removal in modern is absolutely fucking absurd and it wouldn't live to see an untap.

>>51286624
Weak bait

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I'm building Bant Eldrazi, any pointers?

Is Gemstone Caverns worth it? What mana accelerators should I run besides Noble (0-1 Birds, 0-2 Talisman)?

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>>51286668
I'm make an Eldrazi-Tron deck (http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/shogg-tron/) and wondering the same thing about that and Cavern of Souls, is it worth it.
Also why doesnt pic related see more play in Eldrazi decks?


I assume you're running Eldrazi Temple already but I also like Conduit of ruin for the -2 mana cost on creatures despite its unpopularity. Matter Reshaper is not reliable as a fetch but still core for me just for the potential or the guaranteed draw. Eldrazi Skyspawner and Drowner of Hope are a good mainboard eldrazi and some of the other 'put x 0/1 sac for mana tokens into play' cards can be good on the sideboard if there's low burn risk.

Otherwise there's a huge number of green fetch and ramps for coloured lands you can use but I assume you're looking for Eldrazi specific

>>51282940
>playing an extremely average colourless tron deck in local modern tournament
>come up against cruel control in semi final
>blood moons do nothing, he gets some poor topdeck cards and gets murdered by a WurmCoil engine then cant finish me off in time second round.
>mfw he already knocked out all the jund and both the merfolk players
>finals is Infect
>get an endbringer out both games

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So my meta is heavy on red black decks such as grixis and jund. Some are on infect, kiln fiend, death shadow and zoo . Theres about two tron players and two valakut. Rarely i see any janky decks. What's a good deck to fight against this bullshit?

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>>51287207
>2 tron
>2 valakut
absolutely disgusting.

ponza those fuckers

>>51287207
I run 8-rack and have a good time in a similar meta. The Lilis will hurt your wallet but its worth it

>>51287267
>>51287248
I feel like I won't make any friends playing these troll decks

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>>51287460
yeah but theres something about making your opponent discard their top deck with no cards in their hands by turn 3 with a 8 life burn every upkeep until they die with two lands out and a 1/1, meanwhile you're dropping 7/7's for 3 mana

>>51274599
Needs some real ld and magus' might be better than blood moon because they can hit face.

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>PW narset doubles in price

I should have gotten a playset earlier FUCK

>>51270243
>ban bolt.

Are you kiddin' mate?

>>51287530
What's the cause of price spike?

>>51287530
>9.99
>expensive

nigga Liliana is still going up, that reprint is desperately needed.

>>51287549
Frontier (I think) and Esper Narset took down an SCG event

>>51287552
She's $11 at my LGS and almost $15 in Paper according to goldfish

>>51287548
>what is sarcasm

>>51287563
Who are these desperate fucks thinking frontier is going to be a thing?

This is worse than Tiny Leaders and WotC actually made that one

Do any of you get alters done for your cards?
I want to alter some cards but I don't know any good artists or sites

>>51288325
I just bought some altered Goyf proxies. Hoping they don't look like shit, if they do I'm reporting the guy.

>tfw building a super expensive Green/White/Black deck with a bunch of artifacts and Urborg's

H-h-here I go...

>>51288706
Mfw most of the decks I make cost around $50USD for the first 50 cards, while the last 10 cards are about 500USD

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>That guy who plays with altered art lands with paintings of drooling half naked way underaged anime girls on them

Has anyone else come into contact with this guy?

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>>51288769
Not that I can talk considering I often play a heavily foiled infinite combo mill deck, but once I played a guy who only had anime titty lolita lands of varying degrees of quality (all low). It was really weird because he was just a normal looking dude like me at magic night hosted at my University campus.

I gave him some shit for it and won so it was alright. He had some other shitty card alterations besides the lands. Liliana with some weird overlay that he stuck on ever so slightly askew so she had a fat pair of tits flopping out that looked nothing like the rest of the art, and some other anime edits done with paint, maybe by him, they all looked shit I couldnt understand.

>>51288769
I played against a jund player with bakemonogatari sleeves. His deck is foiled out, mostly promo foils. Pretty gross desu

>>51288856
>jund players with heavily foiled decks in excess of 1000 USD

They're often not even that good.
Can anyone explain the obsession with acquiring foils of every card in the deck even when they're ridiculously priced.

>>51288876
Some people just don't like their money

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>>51288769
>>51288855
>>51288856

This ONE land is at $18.50 with multiple bidders and several days left to go on ebay right now. Can anyone explain this? What the fuck? I wish I could paint anime sluts because I'd be whoring out all of my jank and putting it on ebay right now.

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>>51288926
I could seriously do better and I have a billion lands laying around.

Im seriously going to make some animu lands /tg/ to fund my next deck. I don't know anything about this shit tho, does anyone still fap to the Neon-genesis girls? What tits should I paint on my cards to make $?

>>51288926
Link to auction?

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>>51288990

>>51288957

I don't know shit about anime, but judging by what's selling the highest it's teenage girls with huge tits or barely teenage girls with no tits.

>>51289045
i better not get arrested for doing this

>>51289010
Plz nigga

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>>51289056

I feel like I'm gonna get arrested just for looking at the things. Who the hell are these people playing with them and who are the people they are playing with that they feel comfortable playing with them?

>>51289083

Go on ebay and search for "Altered art land anime". You'll see a shitload.

>>51289098
>the entire card is painted except for the tiny "plains" in the corner
for what purpose

>>51289136
It needs the original card name (and mana cost, but this is a land) to be tournament legal. Judges can just rule any alter non-legal though if it's inappropriate.

>>51289136
It's for those times when screaming "I'M A HUGE PEDOPHILE!" isn't enough and you need to scream "I'M A HUGE PEDOPHILE AND I'M FAAAAAAAAABULOOOOOOOOUS!".

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What are some good ways to cheat in this guy or an Emrakul as fast as possible?
Also is it possible to run a budget deck that cheats in big guys?

>>51277035

It's a staple in frontier

>>51289098

Isn't it better to just sell anime tokens as they will be always legal?

>>51263909
>>Whatcha Playin'?
Modern - B/w Rat Tribal
>>Whatcha Hating'?
Fuck Tron and fuck dredge
>>Whatcha wanna build?
Blue Moon
>>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Dig Through Time it would see play in probably Scapeshift and URx and with git prob gone its much slower now

>>51289209
Elvish piper

>>51263909
>>Whatcha Playin'?
Delver-less Grixis, UB Faeries and Nykthos Enchantment Shitbrew

>>Whatcha Hating'?
Tron beats all of these things.

>>Whatcha wanna build?
Something that dominates Tron.

>>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Chrome Mox is too inefficient to replace anything already in the format.

>>51289298
Was thinking of brewing a frontier deck.

Preferably full blown control tho.

Are there any Aether Revolt cards worth "pre release" ordering at their current price you guys think? I got offered two Baral, Chief of Compliance and two Mechanized Production for $15. I think they might both jump in value so I can get some shekels out of them but I'm not sure.

>>51289209
Through the breach
No

>>51263909
>>Whatcha Playin'?
RG Tron, BW Triskaidekaphobia
>>Whatcha Hating'?
Nothing
>>Whatcha wanna build?
GB Tron, WB Phobia and Taxes
>>What single card on the banlist would do the least to change Modern if it were unbanned, and why?
Gitaxian Probe
Because the ban isn't effective yet

Wow Blue Moon is really fun.

>>51289209
Play tooth and nail
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/13-08-16-EhT-tooth-and-nail/

>>51289495
How does this look?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/19-01-17-elvish-piper/
I'm thinking about dropping the Emrakuls in favor of Worldspine Wurm and maybe Progenitus since they are a far cheaper alternative.

>>51289936
This is really bad.
You dont interact with your opp whatsoever
4 summoning trap is bad. You wont facecontrol often enough.
Look at that tooth and nail list, the utopia sprawl+arbor elf interaction isnreally explosive. Especially with garruk wildspeaker. You need ways to keep you in the game, cards like primal command thragtusk and eternal witness make the deck better

>>51273414
Fast combo doesnt belong in Modern. There is no way to fight Storm in Modern other then Eidolon of the Great Revel.
Certain cards are just too good for Modern and the ones that are banned are all too good except Splinter Twin and maybe Stoneforge Mystic

>>51290049
Combo is a dech archetype just like aggro and control. If you dont like it fuck off to standard.

>>51290016
So using stuff that untaps lands and enchantments on lands is better than just using dorks and i swapped all the dorks out, i included 3 Eternal Witness, 3 Primal Commands, 2 Beast Within and left 2 summoning traps, is it enough interaction/defense?

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>>51288926
>paying 18.50
>for this

I'm not even suprised, judging that there are MLP protectors and boxes being made for cards.

>one person from our playgroup has MLP card protectors
>he said he got them as a "present"

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I made a budget Hydra deck for a bit of casual play. it basically dumps as many +1/+1 counters on as many creatures as possible, then uses both the hydra counter doubling abilities with bioshift + doubling from solidarity of heroes to turn a couple of manageable creatures into romping 30+ creatures with shroud and unblockable. It's pretty focused on land fetch and generating counters wherever possible for bioshifting. should I include some cards like Might of Old Krosa or mutagenic growth?

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/get-hydrated-3/

its either this or get one noble Hierarch for my infect deck

>>51290101
But if its too fast or too good you cant fight it. Name a mainboard playable card other then Eidolon of the Great Revel that can help you beat a buffed up Storm with all the Rituals and Cantrips.
Combo is fine in Modern, theres Ad Nauseam and Scapeshift which are both fair combo strategies. Also i play Scapeshift so telling me to fuck off when i play a combo deck simply because i understand that Modern isnt Legacy and fast combo cant be a thing here is dumb.

>>51290126
That a huge improvement. Though i would still get some dorks. Mainly arbor elf for utopa sprawl and/or overgrowth. Overall its harder to kill enchantments rather that dorks

>>51290269
Any counter besides remand and mana leak

>>51289936
>Heartbeat of Spring
3 mana, double your mana. Works well with your untap land elves
>Nissa's Pilgrimage
Good fetch, plays a land for 3, puts two in your hand

>>51289209
Show and tell

>>51290352
>literally have to play a blue control deck to have any chance against combo in Modern
Not only that it has to be a non Remand non Leak counter
In legacy you have stuff like Hymn to Tourach, Force, Flusterstorm, even Sphere of Resistance for Lands SB, you have Thalia to help. All these sweet cards that help stop combo in Modern you have Eidolon and Thalia and shitty situational counterspells thus fast combo is banned

>>51290278
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/19-01-17-elvish-piper/
How does it look now? I didn't want to put in Garruk or too much Overgrowth since they are better off with Tooth and Nail in my opinion, i left a playset of Dorks just to be sure to get 3 mana on turn 2 and also some See the Unrwitten to have another way of cheating in Emrakul

>>51289754
>BW Triskaidekaphobia
list?

>>51268735
>Eye of Ugin
I agree it should be banned but the alternative is 5 mana and i just sucks arse, We need a in between

What the fuck is the deal with Sol ring. Its not on the Wizards ban list, its banned on the gatherer cardviewer wizards site, its not banned on tapped out.

I got like 30 of em, is this card banned in modern

>>51290511
>1 mana 2 mana booster

It's banned and restricted because it enables combos way too early or retardingly powerfull agrro deck starts.

I'd say sell them, but they're not worth much since wizards reprint those into oblivion.

>I got like 30 of em

Or maybe make an abascus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnVCCDAlr_U

>>51290511
Sol Ring was never printed in any standard set since Mirrodin/8th Edition anon. Commander products don't count.

>>51290511
Its banned in Legacy, Restricted in Vintage, not legal to play in Modern just because it wasnt printed in a Modern set. The only place you can play the card is Commander.

>>51290511
I'm not sure if "banned" is the right word for it, but you can't play sol ring in modern.

>>51290592
>>51290590
>>51290570
Its not on the updated modern banlist, why is that

>>51290612
The ban list only covers things that you can't play that would otherwise be allowed based on the card pool criteria of the format. So see >>51290590

New thread friends.
>>51290645

>>51290640
That makes sense

>>51290385
Heartbeat could be bad for us since it doesent double aprawl mana though its considerable, also cultivate is a strict improvement over nissas pilgrimage if you end up running other colors for flexability