Warhammer 40,000 General /40kg/

>>51237440
list builder???????

>Tzeentch Primaris is now WC1 Blessing that gives caster and his squad Ignore Cover and BS+1

Are Rubrics decent now?

>>51237455
here you go friendo

http://www.blacklibrary.com/all-products/gathering-storm-fall-of-cadia-tablet.html

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>>51237446
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!

>>51237471
Thanks Friend!

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>Aeldari

>>51236985
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPb17XN5W0g
Makes since given we got major leaks for FoC on the 20th of December. They want to get in front of it a bit incase they need to do another emergency livestream.

>>51237498
There was legitimately not a single reason to change the name of the Eldar

Why does GW do the things it does?

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>>51237512
Aren't you excited for Orruks to arrive in the Cadian system?

>>51237512

Fuck are they squatting eldar?

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>>51237526
It fits that they arrive much later, they are only initiative 2

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Reposting the best Death Guard list

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What does it mean?

>>51237512
Maybe Ahriman just knows what they called themselves in an older dialect?

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>>51237395

>Only competent character in 40k finally getting some recognition

About god damn time.

>>51237553
Whom?

>>51237551
plastic sisters aren't profitable

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>>51237526
>>51237546

>>51237547
Aren't you supposed to take 3 CSM squads for the warband?

>>51237531
No, but I bet they pull some gargantuan upset fluffwise, like Ahriman finding a Commoragh kill switch in the Black Library and scattering the Deldar, or a bunch of Craftworlds being killed by some magical chaos Macguffin.

>>51237551
Total War and Dawn of War propably
I like Mordheim, so sad that it flopped

>>51237460
It's certainly an improvement, but I'd rather not see Ignores Cover become even more ubiquitous. Maybe something like:
>Reckoning of Tzeentch- Warp Charge 2
>Reckoning of Tzeentch is a Blessing that targets the Psyker and his unit and lasts until the beginning of the next Psychic Phase. Affected models have the Preferred Enemy special rule. In addition, enemy models must reroll all save results of a 6 against wounds inflicted by affected models.

>>51237578

There's that thing trying to break into Commoragh too, mentioned in the DE book and maybe Harlequins.

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>>51237502
>AELDARI
>AELDARI
>AELDARI
>NOT 40K END TIMES

>>51237578

They better keep Deldar around just light a army a few months ago

>>51237551
boxed sets over christmas basically.

>>51237552
That explains why Ahriman might call them that, but it doesn't explain why GW would invent that term irl and insert it into the game, especially with the uncomfortable similarity to Aelves in Age of Sigmar that already exists with both settings having an Elf alliance.

>>51237587
they're pretty vocal that video games don't add noticeable increases in new players, their growth rate doesn't spike because DoW releases.

video game playing children are too poor to buy plastic models

>>51237551
Year over year profits doubled. Investors like that.

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>>51237577

>>51237553

That list needs updating to include helping Silvereye stop the Nids on Valedor. Based Sylandri is the gift that keeps on giving. She's a minor character no one notices, but masterminds so much shit. Can't wait for her to get a model.

>>51237597
AoS ended up being a good move.
40k needs its act cleaned up.

>>51237613
Could be

>>51237607
....fair

>>51237552
I think this is it. The quote is talking about the Eldar before the birth of Slaanesh

>>51237601
They'll be reduced to driver (first class)

>>51237578
As a Thousand Sons fag, I'll be pissed if this results in anything other than Ahriman finding whatever info he needs to continue his quest. Fuck Wrath of Magnus and GW's perpetual need to have Chaos fail to achieve their stated goal but instead succeed at some other, entirely new, never-before-mentioned objective.

>>51237628
>She's a minor character no one notices

People notice, they just don't care about some obnoxious mary sue.
Based Bile, showing her what for.

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>>51237646
>Aeldar Army Service Corps

>>51237630
It needs a rules overhaul, but it doesn't have to be anything more than a severe cutback on power creep and rules bloat, and didn't need to come with them advancing the damn setting.

There are ten thousand years of endless war between 40k and the Horus Heresy, surely they could have invented an interesting conflict inside that span of time if they wanted to have a narrative based expansion with an up-in-the-air result.

>>51237677
>for years people ask for the plot to advance
>as soon as the plot advances everyone whines that it's a blunder

>>51237597
I will actually go into a GW and pepper spray myself so I can cry on all their boxes if they rename Orks Orruks

>>51237663
That's what they are now
You have core craftworld token Delmar hq and then harlequins in d eldar transport

>>51237661

>Obnoxious mary sue

Oh /tg/, you and those words again...

>>51237688
I was never one of them. I always liked that 40k was a setting frozen in a moment where everyone still had a chance and where the outcome was down to you and your friends to decide.

>>51237689
They'll call them the name already in the fluff
Krorks

>>51237689
Having to refer to your army as Orruks feels like shaming

>>51237619
Looks pretty solid then, other than maybe...

Why do you have heavy weapon squads with four heavy weapons in a transport they can only shoot two out of at once?

>>51237702
>Shows up and always gets her way
>Not Mary Sue

>>51237689
I'm sorry, dem boyz be Orruks now

>>51237716
So a common misconception is that the pro language works like gothic. In fact, the ru in Orruk is silent.

>>51237578
>Commoragh kill switch
You're a little late to the party.
One already exists: Khaine's Gate

And expect it to be opened.

I wonder if there will be any models for chaos in these gathering storm books or if they are put on hold since Magnus/TS release.
Another triumvirate box for book 3 (maybe Abbadon, Typhus and Fabius Bile) along with a replacement for the old csm troops would be cool. Its about time they get updated to the Dark Vengeance style.

Should I put dark lances or disintegrator cannons on my Raiders?

>>51237768
Do you want them to fight vehicles or infantry?

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>>51237716
>>51237597
Why would they get rid of their most recognizable brand names for some DnD tier gibberish?

[SPOILER] WHY WOULD SOMEONE GIVE A SETTING A MASSIVE 'END TIMES' UPDATE BEFORE THROWING IT UNDER A BUS?

>>51237729

She's not even one person. It's an assumed name ya dingus. Read the codex.

>>51237763
>I wonder if there will be any models for chaos in these gathering storm
100% there will be before the end of the campaign. Not sure about Fabius, but Abaddon absolutely will get one. The rest probably depends on who they want to bring into the story.

>>51237648
>Book ends with Ahriman finding the Black Library.
>Just as he's about to enter
>Then a Thunder Hammer comes flying through the door, going Mach 30
>Crushes into his side
>Book Ends. To be continued.

>>51237781
>She's not even one person. It's an assumed name ya dingus.

Maybe, literally doesn't matter because they all act exactly the same. Mary sue bullshit.
Almost invariably when you read the name it's time to put the book down.

>>51237805
>Roundabout by Yes begins playing

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>>51237777

I think my list could do with more anti-armour, so lances seem like a wise choice.

This is my list so far.

>>51237805
Perfection.

>>51237763
Chaos will probably get one, but I doubt Abbadon will be in there. I'd expect him to get a big kit of just him

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>>51237813

>A codename is a Mary sue

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>>51237502

Post yfw

>AELDARI

>>51237832
>Character's have the same name
>All act the same
>Always show up for some clown plot asspull

Doesn't matter if their fictional genes are different, in essence it's just the same character.

>>51237502
>they need to do another emergency livestream.
I can believe people are dumb enough to think they didnt leak that.

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>>51237779
will genestealer cults get any end times action? A terran insurrection perhaps?

>>51237826
Looks good to me, although you can only have one relic on the Archon so you should drop something, probably the Parasite's Kiss.

Be careful with how much you've invested into that Archon plus Incubi though, you need to pick very careful fights to make that worthwhile.

>>51237893
Noone else cares about your irrelevant cheese army. Getting worse then the Tau at this point.

>>51237881
Couldn't the clowns have their own version of Phoenix Lord armour?

So even if the physical Eldar box might be different. It's still the same character driving?

>>51237908
They already do, they have the great harlequin.

>>51237860
>>51237597
Thing is, if they were planning on blowing everything up they wouldn't change it now. They'd probably wait for the release of Age of the Emperor or whatever and switch it all then like they did with AoS.

The fact that it's happening now makes it seem more like an Astra Militarum situation than an Orruk or Duardin situation. They'll retcon it as "Eldar" is the Imperial term which is a corruption of the "proper" term "Aeldari".

>>51237512
What? For fantasy or 40k??

>>51237915
Not exactly the same - it's not a suit that turns souls into a gestalt

>>51237893
Thing with GSC is there is no "unity" between them

At best a GSC End Times would be "a shit ton of systems go dark as GSCs spring up EVERYWHERE AT ONCE"

Which isn't much different than "a shit ton of systems go dark as Chaos Cult's spring up EVERYWHERE AT ONCE" it doesn't do much as a pure threat (Chaos' "pure threat" is the Black Crusade) just like GSC pure threat is the Tyranids

I want post 4th lore to go and stay go.

When GK mercy bloodbath sound like good lore you have a problem

No epub yet?

>>51237763
The pattern is 2 books
Gathering storm is about alliances being made against chaos - so part 2 fall of commoragh and that tau ethereal joins up
The follow up to traitors hate will be more chaos orientated as that was labelled as 13th black crusade - part 2 of that will be the expansion into the cadia sector /obscurus segmentum

>>51237883
I doubt extremely shitty WD scans was part of their marketing plan.

>>51237966

Except 5th ed DEldar. That update was objectively great.

Alright we have Aeldar and Deldar, what do you guys think the Beldar and Celdar codicies will be like?

So what happens to the Dark Eldar if Commoragh falls?

It's so dumb that it's likely it'll fall. It doesn't change anything in the setting except shitting on the Dark Eldar for no reason.

>>51237966
But, the idea of the Grey Knights using blood magic to protect themselves from Chaos magic is entirely in keeping with older lore.

>>51237977
>doesnt remember the Magnus leaks
Ok stay dumb.

Hoping for an answer here, didn't get one in the elder thread.

Why don't people put fire dragons in raiders? Deploy in your zone; embark and move to cover turn one. Turn two, drive by melta. Is this not supported by the allies chart anymore, or is there a tactical reason not to?

>>51238001
That's different.

>>51237978
Carnifex happen. Carnifex happen anon. Never forget

Did GW ever apologise for that shit?

>>51237893
WE WUZ TYRANTS AND SHIT

>>51238013
You can't deploy in them, so you're vulnerable in having to deploy separately and then mount up that first turn.

>>51237999
They move to another spot in the webway.

>>51237999
>It doesn't change anything in the setting except shitting on the Dark Eldar for no reason.
It gives DE a stake in the conflict.

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>>51237779
> WHY WOULD SOMEONE GIVE A SETTING A MASSIVE 'END TIMES' UPDATE BEFORE THROWING IT UNDER A BUS?

>doesnt' remember what happened to fantasy

>doesnt' remember there were several books with new rules and units released right before the AOS happened

I can't wait to see all the idiots buy the Fall of Cadia book(s), just to see 40k squatted by the Age of the Emperor before their very eyes.

>>51238071
DE can't survive outside of commorragh though

>>51237999
>no reason
They are the worst of the non chaos factions literally edgelords

>>51238054
there is no other spot

>>51238080
>Look Mum I posted it again!

Surely even youre bored of posting this pasta by now?

>>51237551
The huge dip at the start of 2014 was caused by the Nid codex, right?

>>51238071

Except it's been established firmly that if the Dark Eldar spend too long outside the Webway, they die.

And all of their vats for growing new bodies are...oh, right, in Commoragh.

So they're basically spiky Craftworld Eldar if Commoragh falls.

>>51238090
get a load of this faggot, he thinks best faction is worst faction

>>51238052
This is probably the biggest self outing as an armchair player, but....So what? If they're in cover and/or have blocked line of sight they're fine, right?

What is the end game of fall of cadia? I doubt suddenly moving lore forward would be done just to sell 3 new miniatures, where do you think this whole thing is going?

>>51238091
>Giant galaxy spanning sub dimension
>Only one spot though
Lol.

>just thinking about getting back into 40k
>they're renaming the races to retardation
No
Why now

>>51238090

Yeah, let's just all stand in a circle and jerk off to Space Marines, The One True Faction.

Everyone in 40k are Edgelords. This is Edgelord: The Setting.

>>51238106
>yfw when commorragh becomes unseated from the webway and turns into a craftworld

>>51238121
At least the space marines don't have bras made out of peoples faces

>>51238116
GW figured out waht DLC is and now we get mini-supplements for large 'events'.

discussed with a redshirt yesterday
he told me that the setting reboot was exclusive to WHFB due to it's low revenue
he also told me that there would be renewment for 30 more years of the setting
>>51238119
it's not a rename ffs it's just a fancy deformation of the word
we're talking Ahriman here, i'm sure he gets off from those things

>>51238106
They don't die. The Thirst just affects them more supposedly. That hasn't stopped the Duke from snorting coke off of Sororitas booty for the past few thousand years though.

>>51238133
Space Wolves wear fur coats made from retard babies.

>>51238118
wow you're just so wrong

it's not a giant galaxy spanning sub dimension

it's a webway, and there's only one center to the webway, there's only one commorragh

there's only one part of the entire maze which fits the giant port-city commorragh with more webway gates than anywhere else

gates which when weakened randomly shift and link up to other paths in the webway.

Most paths of the webway aren't big enough for cruisers ships and are only traversable by raider/venom/wave serpent, the larger "arteries" which can fit cruisers are mostly damaged, destroyed, unstable, or highly prized and protected by various kabals or clowns

you can't just move to a new place in the webway because commorragh falls, commorragh is the only place which has a huge pile of ancient arcane technology which seals off and partitions the warp, banishing the foul daemons from the eldar land.

It's not a giant galaxy spanning sub dimension, it's collapsing sewer tunnels built inside a giant galaxy spanning alternate dimension which nobody knows how to build more of

>>51238133
>spacemarines have skull helmets, skull shoulders, skull fists, skull guns, skull crotch pieces

so your only annoyance is that dark eldar have women with skulls adorning them? that seems misogynistic

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>>51238100
>pasta
yeah ok m8

Seriously though, do you not remember what happened LITERALLY 1 month before AOS?
We had the End Times books released just like we're having now.
Call me a faggot or whatever, but I'd rather wait a month or two before buying any of them, just in fucking case.

>>51238188
that's not entirely true, the end time books had more story and more rules than fall of cadia, fall of cadia is like end times light, you get a taste of the fluff, a taste of the rules where everyone teams up and fights together, but it's only a fraction of the cost (and calories)

>>51238116
>where do you think this whole thing is going?
wherever it attracts sales, but nowhere close to actually ending the setting.

it's practically going to turn into an episodic cinematic universe with shit made up as they decide what to sell along the way.

the closer points of interest are the primarchs, the reunification of the eldar and the reform of slaaneshi daemons under a new patron.

>>51238134
Video game company behaviour is a thing for GW for a long time now

DLC Supplement and almost day one patch for their shitty made codex.

Broken things. Etc

GW has gone turbo anti consumer and some how people are happy about it... the flying fuck?

>>51237999
Except Deldar had no stakes. They weren't in danger.

They had the same problem Tomb Kings/Lizardmem had in Fantasy

>Ohh the INSERT is attacking?

Are they attacking my Desert /Jungle? No? Then I don't care.

>>51238188
p.s. I'm really fucking hoping the 40k doesn't get replaced. Even if it's broken/unbalanced as shit, I still love it for what it is.
I don't want to see it replaced by another aos

>>51238113
Because you have to waste a turn embarking and then a turn moving the transport and then a turn disembarking

>>51238171
Commorragh was only one of the port cities within the webway when the fall happened. Their are other places the DE could live. As much as I despised the book Master of Mankind shows of another dead city in the webway.

>>51238133
Are you saying you don't wear undergarments made from human skin? Lord have mercy, you have no idea on what you're missing out on.

>>51238213
at least the dark eldar can teleport anywhere so they can join in on the fighting using the chaos of other wars to steal slaves and resources

tomb kings, lizardmen and wood elves had no means or reason to fight anyone outside of their comfort zone

Age of the Emperor is going to be a setting reset

Basically 30k but with all the new factions. The Emperor dies and revives in one of the Fabios clone shit.

It is going to be an ass pull so big that the setting will restart

>>51238243
human skin is icky

>>51237512

Yes there is. Eldar can't be copyright secured because Tolkien used it extensively before GW.

>>51238213

Cool, so instead of adding some kind of jeopardy, the entire faction gets sandpaper dildo'd.

Like, imagine one book came out and just said "Oh, every Necron Tomb World gets destroyed". Just that. Entire faction removed off-hand. That's literally what "Commorragh falls" does to the Dark Eldar.

>>51238206
>the end time books had more story and more rules than fall of cadia

You do realise we've only seen the first volume right? It literally says "Book one of the gathering storm" on the first page. There's likely going to be at least 2 more.

>>51238234
This.

Fuckers there are many dead cities in the Webway - another appears in Path of the Archon.

And even if you're codex fluff only, Commoragh is made of many subrealms that were united to one - they can be cut off and sealed away from one another, as Slaa Dom was.

>>51238285
*realize

>>51238218
Raiders are open topped. You can't deep strike first turn anyway, so that can be used for embarking with no turn disadvantage.
Turn two there would be a disadvantage if you can't get close enough to slag anything, and I suppose that an extra turn of being fired on might not be with it.

But if they're in an open transport can't they zip around better?

>>51238116
A new Siege of Terra is my guess. Maybe even the death of the Emperor. I don't think there's any chance they do a full AoS style "Warp swallows all". But I could see them turning the Emperor into an actual god, or some other way that the nature and power of the Imperium is radically changed. I feel like they also need to better pay off the Ynnead stuff from Death Masques somehow.

>>51238256
why can't they just pull a new setting out of the emperor's ass?

and with a great thundering FRRT the emperor shifts one cheek aside from astride the golden throne and a sweeping miasma of built up psychic energy seeps out, an accumulation of countless billions of psykers which have been sacrificed in his name.

everywhere this cloud of psychic plasma extends to immediately feels its affect as the psyker, the heretic and the mutant are cleansed of their wicked ways, daemons choke and sputter out, flickering back into the warp as they are enveloped in the emperor's fart.

with this miracle the universe is saved thanks to the emperor farting magical maguffin fuel

now a new age dawns as the gas begins to part and dissipate, the followers of order grow desperate, working together to mine pockets of gas tucked away in far off planets, as the allies of chaos begin to strike back, striking from out of the warp back into our reality as they did once before

>>51238264
You're making a lot of assumptions. This is Space Wolf players in Wrath of Magnus all over again.

>>51238285
>>51238298
yeah but the first end times book was what $120 hardback, $200 collector edition, blah blah blah and had rules for tons and tons of shit

FoC is like "yeah so if you like space marines or guard or ad-mech here you go, here's a small spoonful of diarrhea"

I kinda hope we get what's hinted at in Master of Mankind, where the Imperium grudgingly ask for help from the Dark Eldar to stabilize the webway, because humanity have no idea how to fuck with the webway.

As maligned as AoS is, the Grand Alliances are actually a pretty cool idea. So the Order one would be Imperium, Eldar, Dark Eldar and probably Necrons.

>>51238116
I'm hoping that this culminates in a soft reboot, where we end up with a new rulebook, and new core codexes for each of the factions, released at the same time, that will then receive supplements in a fashion that codexes were released previously (new one each month etc).

>>51238116
>where do you think this whole thing is going?
well now that they sold everyone 3 new miniatures I think they're going to do another book that will sell idk 5 more miniatures?

I imagine whatever comes next will come with new miniatures to buy

>>51238251
Didn't they invent the world roots for Wood Elves so they could actually have a reason to be in other parts of the world?

>>51238106

see

>>51238147
see

This

There is a whole Kabal called 'The Severed' in the DE codex, which is a Kabal that drifts through space after being banished from Commoragh, they survive by launching piratical raids as usual.

Its just that the soul sapping by Slanesh is faster outside of the Webway so naturally the Dark Eldar find it extra comfy to stay in Commoragh most of the time.

>>51238332
Then you don't have to buy the book? Plus they just released Traitor Legions which was all rules for $35.

>>51238326

...except Fenris got buttfucked and the Wolf players were totally right from the outset?

>>51238339
>So the Order one would be Imperium, Eldar, Dark Eldar and probably Necrons.

>one faction would be 80% of the armies sold

ahahahahaha, wow, that's even worse than the army divisions for the factions in AoS

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ITS HAPPENING THEY ARE DOING IT, ITS ANOTHER CHAOS WINS ENDING WE ARE DOOMED.

>>51238360
>reading comprehension

my original post was "this is like a light version of end times, this book is nowhere near as impactful as one of the end time books"

god /tg/ I can't tell if you're stupid or if you have a learning disability

>>51238364
>Magnus banished in one hit
>No this was my plan all along!
Lol.

>>51238339
No, fuck right off.
Grand Alliances are fucking bullshit in fantasy, and even moreso in 40k.
Fucking kill yourself for even suggesting that shit.

>>51238364
The problem is writers that can't fucking google search and see how stupid the things they write are.

Warp powered Imperium forces was the cherry on top.

>>51238390
they work slightly ok in AoS, I mean, the weighting of the factions is fucking stupid where half of them are in order, but given that more than half of 40k is space marines, and then there's guard, ad-mech, skitarii, knights, holy fuck almost all of 40k is imperium

and then THIS FUCKING RETARD

>yeah just roll eldar and maybe necrons into the big imperial ball

>>51238386

So? Fenris still barely exists now.

And Commorragh is such an integral part of Dark Eldar fluff. It's not like it's just a recruiting place for them, it's literally 99.99% of Dark Eldar. A more comparable thing would be "Terra has fallen, I guess. Sucks to be you, humans."

>>51238415
I mean, a more comparable thing would be

"oops chaos controls the ENTIRE UNIVERSE"
"I guess humanity has to go live in the webway"

>>51238370

I'd personally disagree with necrons being part of it. They are less 'Allied' and more 'Dicking about'. Though Imperium/Eldar/Dark Eldar makes sense based on Cadia.

I do find it kinda funny that the SOB are really chummy with the Eldar in it to the degree of coordinating an ambush on Abbadon together. I guess they both feel good about working with someone else who has bullshit 'Predict the future' powers rather than fumbling about in the dark.

>>51238410
necrons are worthy of the grand alliance
they get shits done without compromising their race

>>51238424
too bad they couldn't predict cadia being fucking destroyed

>>51238424
I thought the SOB and Eldar got along because they both have boobs.

also who was the Deldar on cadia ?

>>51238435
Nop, both Eldar and SoB want the Emperor's D but can't have it and so are pissy about it.

Humanity > Everything else

Sadly GW didn't got the memo and it is Marines > everything else

Between 30k and 40k marines are like 80% of what GW sells

>>51238339
>Grand Alliances are actually a pretty cool idea. So the Order one would be Imperium, Eldar, Dark Eldar and probably Necrons.

Xenophobia is a huge part of the setting, so I certainly hope not.

>>51238339
>>51238370
They wouldn't do an Order/Chaos/Desctruction/Death mapping

Obviously Imperium would be one and Eldar would be another, maybe with Tau added to the Eldar to make a "Good Xenos" alliance. Then You have Chaos, and "Bad Xenos" with Orks, Necrons, and I guess Nids/GSC. I could see Nids/GSC being isolated again instead though.

>>51238426
>>51238424
>>51238410
>>51238390
>>51238339

You guys are going about this the wrong way though, you're jumping straight to age of sigmar because it's the most recent events, it's like your memory is failing and you're incapable of remembering anything that happened more than a week ago.

WE HAVE SEEN THIS PLOT ARC BEFORE.

It's a plot arc which was a staple of The Old World, of WHFB good and proper.

Everytime Chaos threatened to flood out from the north and sweep across the world all the armies would set aside their differences for one good war where they would all take turns kicking archaon in the dick.

It didn't result in grand alliances, it didn't result in the world exploding, all it resulted in was everyone rolling up their sleeves and killing a bunch of chaos warbands.

>>51238415
>Fenris still barely exists now.

Fenris is fine. Biggest issue is a chunk of the population of the Fenris System are corrupt and ill fit to become Space Marines. Which could spell doom to Wolves... except it's a "loredoom" that will be implied, but not actually do anything to really hurt / impact the Space Wolves in the least.

Just like Eldar are a doomed race and every life is precious. Yet they go around dying in the thousands in lore because reasons

The Wolves are as dead as the Craftworld Eldar after Eldrad accidentally all their souls

Anyone have The Reaping Time epub?

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>>51238435

>>51238431
Or they couldn't see any way of preventing it. And if the Eldar turned up saying HEY GUY YOU HAVE TO EVACUATE THE SECOND MOST HEAVILY DEFENDED WORLD IN THE IMPERIUM REALLY HONEST, the Imperium would likely assume it's a trick and open fire.

>>51238080
>you cant play 40k if they make a new game
i still play WHF with my mates, sigmar can sod off

Do any of you anons have a solid source of new BL releases? I'm looking for the Carcharodons book and some of the 2016 advent stories. Or am I just SOL since Bran Stark left and KAT shut down?

>>51238426
I'd be fine with certain subfactions belonging in each Alliance. Like Trayzn would be a Necron subfaction that could fit into all Grand Alliances, but maybe Immotek would only be Alliance X

I'd be rather ok with grand alliances if they did more to go 'Yeah, X faction can work in alliance A or B'.

Like putting the Imperial Guard as 'These can be chaos or order, pick one' to represent chaos renegades.

Or at least, introducing some lists that actually make use of it. Don't just introduce another 'X faction with extra bonuses' list. Introduce a list that say, lets Eldar and SOB team up and count as the same faction for buffs (While likely limiting the exact units from each faction to prevent it just being both factions+). Weird mixed lists.

>>51238469
Yeah. By blowing up Cadia and saying "the EoT is expanding" they already technically fulfilled their "move the narrative forward" promise.

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>>51237502

CALLING IT NOW:


AELDARI ARE PRE-FALL ELDAR


THE RED DUDE IS ONE OF THEM


THE RUNE IS HIS RUNE


HE'S IMMORTAL CAUSE HE'S FOUND A WAY TO REINCARNATE FROM THE PAST INTO THE FUTURE THANKS TO HIS ARMOR
NOW HE'S GONNA UNITE THE CRAFTWORLDERS, THE COMORRITES AND THE HARLEQUINS AND KICK CHAOS' BUTT SO THEY CAN ALL REINCARNATE AGAIN
THEY'LL REBUILD THE EMPIRE AND CALL THEMSELVES THE AELDARI AGAIN

>>51238457
We don't know yet

>>51238490
if they squat 40k I wouldn't want to play 40k, I play games with good rules, it's why I don't play WHFB but I play AoS

If age of the emperor has good rules, reigns in the power creep, then I'll play that.

If it's more of the same diarrhea then I'll probably switch to infinity full time

>>51238481
I live to have lewds

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>>51238509
Biel-Tan pls go

>>51238509
HE'S THE BEST. YOU KNOW IT. I KNOW IT. HE'S GOING TO MAKE THE AELDARI GREAT AGAIN

>>51238498
the links in op has a lot, we've got 11 of the beast arises

you just have to wait a bit

if you want something day 1 then your only option is to buy it

>>51238509
MAKE
AELDARI
GREAT
AGAIN

>>51238500
The AoS system can already handle this with the Allegiance tags.

>>51238531
Eldrad don't you have some infinty circuits to job?

>>51238482

That and while Cadia was lost...holy hell, Abbadon didn't come out of it much better. He's down a blackstone fortress, Celestine holy smiting his second in command into non-existence, most of his Heresy-era followers and his spine.

>>51238548
Neato. I don't play AOS so didn't know that. Thought it was clean and cut like 40K alliances

>>51238557
god fall of cadia is such a fucking butcher's job of bullshit garbage tier writing

"duh bel'akor is just flipping dumb tee hee, these jobber imperial fists beat him"

>>51238549
reminder that Eldrad, when carried by the stream of Eldar souls, saw Ynnead open his eyes

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>>51238530
http://wh40kart.im/post/list/fap/1

>>51238563
eh, AoS is very unclean, if you're just playing "narrative" aka "not a tournament game" the alliances don't mean anything, you can just mix units however you want

you know

FORGE
THE
NARRATIVE

>>51238571

Beat him is a very generous term. They were utterly fucked until they got saved by the Legion of the Damned.

>>51238585
http://wh40kart.im/tags/aeldari/

uh there's nothing here though?

>>51238571
GW is to be applauded for creating a story which satisfies absolutely no-one.

>>51238591
yet in the end, another named chaos character suffers a humiliating defeat

>>51237502
Can we please get a new wraithlord model?

>>51238585
I might need the full version...

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>>51238588
>tfw you want to play some narrative games but you feel like a cheeselord and people look at you funny when you try to get into the inversion
Why live?

>>51238585
Heck, I should start drawing 40k porn.

>>51238619
The old one has aged very well, especially for some shit made in 4th. It's fine. The rumors predict a new Wraithknight-sized construct anyway

>>51238619
They rebranded it tho. Forgot what they called it, though they made it bigger. Just like how Bloodthristers and the new Lord of Change are like twice as big as before.

>>51238619
Why? It's a great kit.

>>51238604
yeah, I guess that is applaudable in its own sense:

BTs get cucked and killed as they work with psykers and xenos
A big bad ass mechanicum guy plays jobber and gets tricked by xenos to blow up cadia
Guard players lose kell AND cadia AND creed is missing an arm and trapped in a pokeball
Guard players get no new update
Sisters still in metal, celestine gets called out for being a heretical idol of false worship
Dark angels get killed, aren't allowed to use the new rules
Space Wolves are still lmao failwolves and get killed, aren't allowed to use the new rules
Imperial fists get killed a bunch
Tau don't show up at all, so I guess diaper wearing riptide humpers are mad that their technologically superior army is irrelevant

I don't think anyone is happy that the punchline is CWE save the day yet again

>>51238672
>A big bad ass mechanicum guy plays jobber and gets tricked by xenos to blow up cadia
I want this meme to die

>>51238655
fuckin hell why GW are so obsessed with giant things ?
why not found some other aspect ?
is it that hard

>>51238649
please do, I need more eldar porn

(most of the porn is eldar anyways)

(I don't care, I like seeing elves get fucked)

>>51238672
>Guard players lose kell AND cadia AND creed
I play guard and I don't care about any of those things.

>Guard players get no new update
Greatcoat plastics please.

>>51238610

Basically every single person save Celestine came out of that one going 'Well, that sucked'.

Creed: Cadia fell under his command, lost his second in command, kidnapped by necrons.
Abbadon: It was a Pyrrhic victory with what he lost in the process.
Necrons: Fucking Oops. Sorry about that Celestine. Didn't manage to pokeball any of the Chaos guys I wanted.
Mechanicus: We had to get bailed out by necrons and we still don't understand half the tech we lost on planet.
Imperial Fists: We got ruined by chaos and had to be saved by the Legion of the Damned. Our precious ship is now missing a lot of it's mass.
Celestine: I actually turned up in the main plot for once and I got Abbadon's spine as a trophy.

Not a single person in-universe is happy with the result.

>>51238535
Word. I'll just wait patiently.

I'd probably buy the content, but the prices are too high and the quality isn't that good. I've got paint and models to buy. But I'm sure that isn't news to any of you.

>>51238685
>shows up late with most of his guys dead from fighting tau
>bumbles around
>eventually believes that he was guided by fate to meet celestine

cool character you got there

>>51238704
eh, the space sharks players I know all buy it

like if you play 40k for YOUR DUDES and only play your one faction, you gobble up whatever GW throws your way, simply because you're not spending very much after your army is around 4000 points

>>51238685
After or before losing warp and chaos powers the Imperium got weaker and chaos got stronger.

I know they didn't meant that but that is how it sounds when reading.

Same goes for Cawl he deleted System 32

>>51238498
Serves tg right for going into tehparadox and filling the request thread with shitty memes and arguments
So many 4chan dickheads think they can post the same way on normal boards as they do here

>>51238688
because all their old players have full armies of infantry sized things so it's easier to convince them to buy this new big thing which they don't have

for new players it's really easy to convince them that they should buy this one big cool thing so they only have to paint one thing instead of having to paint a hundred small things

it's simple psychology, what looks cool? the big giant thing

and it's an easier pill to swallow when the big giant thing is expensive, because it's so big

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>>51238672
>Imperial fists get killed a bunch at Seige of Terra
>Imperial fists get killed a bunch at the iron cage
>Imperial fists get all killed at WAAAGH!: Beast
>Imperial fists get killed a bunch at Fall of Cadia

It's what Dorn would've wanted.

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>All the Eldar going to be merged into 1 faction
>meanwhile i'm just chilling with my robots retaking our land

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>>51238690
>most of the porn is eldar anyways
40k porn is pretty evenly Eldar/Sisters/Slaanesh

>>51238706
He didn't destroy Cadia. I don't give a shit about what he DID do.

>>51238744
NO HE DID NOT. This is just what /tg/ pieced together from the leaks before the fucking book came out. We now know that Abbadon destroyed Cadia by bombarding it with moon-sized bits of ship. Cawl activating the pylons had nothing to do with the planet exploding.

>>51238724
I play 40k ONLY for my dudes, so I dont know how will I cope with the Imperium losing the setting.
>t.Scared Guardfag

>>51238724
I'm on the fence because I collect Night Lords

>>51238779
Ok Cawl, its ok, you can stop posting now.

FoC in epub yet?

>>51238779
>mech plays being this butthurt that their new character blew up cadia

it's ok anon, we're all mad that cadia is dead

even I, myself, a chaos player, I am mad that cadia died the way it did

it didn't die in glorious warfare, it wasn't conquered

someone accidentally blew it up

you think Khorne is happy? no, he's fucking pissed

now when all the chaos gods get together to catch up at a starbucks and talk about what their life is like now that they've finished college and started making their way through life khorne is going to frown and pout as he explains that his big giant battle that he was preparing was squandered by some fucker accidentally deleting a planet.

All the while tzeentch will be rolling on the floor laughing his big stupid face off because it was his epic prank to get a robot skeleton to trick cawl into deleting cadia

>>51237688
Maybe the retards who were actually asking for that shit finally realized what a mistake it was.
More likely they're the same three people actually defending this shit

>>51238490
>>51238519
WHFB was no longer allowed in my store after AoS came out.

It's because I play in a GW

>>51238826
Im just upset that chaos is probably gonna win the setting... agian. I just want that sweet, sweet status quo so I can make stories about my men fightin for thier homeworld, the Imperium and the Emprah.

>>51238509
A brand new super special super cool character coming out of left field with no prior reference, to unite 2 warring and a neutral factions in a day sounds like precisely the kind of shitty asspull GW would write, so I bet you're right

>>51238845
given how chaos doesn't really get a victory in FoC I doubt that we'll get a "chaos wins" story

it'll be more like "the imperium beat back the chaos, but oh no this contrived thing happened, guess humanity lost"

>>51238890
maybe he's a mythical hero like Ulthanash.

>>51238890
Arhra isn't new

>>51238845
Exactly. GW's current band of writers don't seem to understand that most of us don't care about their asinine attempts at storytelling. We want a nice, big sandbox of a setting to tell our own stories in.

>>51238690
Heh, I was going to draw more SoB and maybe daemons both with ridiculous tits

As an old as fuck player. I'm rather mad they are "advancing the story"

Fucking idiots 40k doesn't have a story it is a setting where stories happen.

Want to make new shit? Well 30k is a thing and they could make a 50k.

GW needs to stop killing things at random because they are incompetents with their spending.

There is no way they are just making 18% profit their cheap as fuck product sold at overblown prices

They are leaking hard. I'd love to see their accounting to pin point where the fuck this idiots are losing money so hard

>>51238901
Still, they are trying to end the setting, and with it our oppurtnities to tell stories. Why cant they just keep it like that, or do some unimportant shit?


>>51238918
Pretty much this. I just want to continue writing my stupid little book about my regiment and weep as I dream of getting accepted to BL.

>>51237395
A CUUTE. A CUTE. A CUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUTEEEEE

>Upcoming Eldar
>Possibly plastic aspects
this is going to be an expensive year.

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>>51238960
here

>>51239000

Man, such a wasted character. They did basically nothing with her in the end, despite her having a lot of potential with her backstory and issues.

>>51238424

Celestine is not thinking about Eldar from a SoB or Ecclesiarchal perspective, she has Emprah's omniscient insight and a millennia of hanging out in the warp between the present and her Sisterhood days.

>>51237712
>they'll call them the name already in fluff
Yeah, just like they called Dark Elves Druchii, Dwarves Dwari etc etc

oh wait

>>51238372
>Implying it's a Chaos win when Failbaddon the Armless suddenly becomes Failbaddon the SPINELESS.
> Literally uncountable chaos marines now dead,
> 99% of all imperium casualties is just Guardsmen, who are literally worthless
> Chaos lost all of their Blackstone Fortresses
> Failed to destroy The Phallanx
> Only just barely took cadia
> Now has to deal with Ultramar
Nigga, it's a Strategic failure for chaos. They're completely fucked, and the Imperium can actually bounce back from this.

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>>51239116
> 99% of all imperium casualties is just Guardsmen, who are literally worthless
That... that actually made me a bit sad.

>>51239116
You forgot
>did not take Cadia, they DESTROYED Cadia, closing the Cadian Gate and making logistics a literal nightmare for the Crusade

But
> Now has to deal with Ultramar
If Terra falls, the extinguishing of the Astronomican will plunge Ultramar and the rest of the galaxy into a new Old Night, so I doubt the empire there would stand unless Guilliman comes back... Oh shit

>>51239116

It's a strategic decisive victory for Chaos and a personal tactical failure for Abaddon. Pylons gone, Eye of Terror is expanding unhindered unlike the preceding millennia, daemons get to rampage in realspace like never before.

>>51239116
The issue is the loss of the pylons which were holding the Eye of Terror in check. Unless someone is able to pull a plot devices out of their ass, the Eye of Terror is going to keep expanding, daemons will manifest everywhere, blah blah blah no time or space only chaos, all that garbage.

>>51237395
Friendly reminder that Craftworld Lugganath is, most likely, still trying to shove a craftworld up the webways ass so they can shove their foot up the D.Eldar's ass.

>>51239116
They already accounted for this, infuriating as it is, without the Pylons the Crimson Path gets to start in earnest. Abbadon doesn't even need to fight for the next stage, which includes the Eye of Terror expanding and the Imperium becoming even more Chaos corrupted from within.

>>51239116
>abaddon lost his spine
What?

>>51239139
Guardsmen job is to die standing.

Also Creed insulted Abaddon while bleeding and getting choked to death.

The T3 armies in the FoC are the only winners in this cluster fuck. They kept at least a bit of honour.

>>51239208
I call it now. Pylons reconstruct on their own due to RP

>>51239214
>>51239208
>>51239187
If they will pull that "cant stop the eye" deus ex machina Im actually not gonna accept this as canon and keep on going like it never happened, becasue that will be the gayest shit ever. Plus arent Eldar supposed to fix that?

>>51239223
He rolled a 1 when Celestine stabbed him with her AP3 sword.

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>>51239116
>99% of all imperium casualties is just Guardsmen, who are literally worthless
>worthless

>>51239223
Celestine literally stabbed him in the back. I think it's described as the greatest wound he's suffered since the days of the Heresy.

I have a vague hope that it's going to be a bit like the blow Sanguinius landed on Horus, and that at the climax of this wretched story arc, someone is going to use the injury Celestine inflicted to blast Abaddon off the face of the setting.

>>51239287
>literally orphan snowflake tacticool gloryboys
>Guardsmen

>>51239287
those are Scions, they are less wothless

So in fluff terms, would IG Sentinels be organised in their own regiments like tanks or artillery are, or would they be part of infantry regiments?

If they try to do that shit that they tried in WHFB (the whole narrative games where chaos was supposed to win but they lost so bad everyone would rather see the orcs win) I will laugh my ass off if they get wrecked by Edar or the Guard, with Abbaddon dying like a little bitch.

>>51239213
>they want to go to the dark eldar's home to fight them

ahahahaha

AHAHHAHAHA

if they really want to feed slaanesh their souls it would be faster to smash their soul gems and slit their throats

>>51238960
>Looks human
It's shit

>>51239330
They make up their own regiments.

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>>51239231
>Also Creed insulted Abaddon while bleeding and getting choked to death.

>>51239337
>DE
>""""""soul gems""""""

>>51239284

Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't make her weapon AP2 when they decided to give her new rules. At init AP2 would have been kinda bullshit though when she's already as fucking impossible to kill as she is now.

>>51239231
>getting choked
>he can still talk

yeah... that's not how choking works, but given that gw doesn't know you can't assault out of a rhino it's safe to say they don't know anything

>>51239330
neither, they are described as being total loners in reconnaissance roles.

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>>51239330
They're typically attached in small numbers to a regiment as scouts.

>>51239337
>Implying that they won't be using shurikens made from soulstones so that when a Darl Eldar is killed by it their soul is trapped in the very thing that killed them.

>>51239360
>craftworld is trying to shove a foot up DE's ass
>craftworld
>not having soulgems

good reading comprehension

>>51239364
>gw doesn't know you can't assault out of a rhino
This meme is as shit as the Cawl deleting Cadia meme. Since when did /tg/ have such shit taste and lack of factual knowledge?

>>51239297

I imagine he hasn't been stabbed with too many holy weapons since then.

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>>51239330
>>51239387

>>51239250
can't Necrons just build the new ones?
I think they would care that their old kingdom is gettting fucking eaten by warp

>>51239334
Chaos was losing in Warhammer End Times too, until Skaven joined them

You better fucking pray Hive Mind can't be corrupted

>>51239395
ever since /b/ used to be spammed with 40k threads
aka before /tg/ was born
aka always you goddamn new fag
shut the fuck up and lurk more

>>51239392
Soul stones, waystones, Isha's tears, they have a bunch of names, but madoka magica soul gems isn't among them. Fuck off.

>>51239363
Honestly AP2 would break her imo. She's hilarious at 200 pts right now.

Yes she's not really killy. BUT she can stall most shit that's her price or higher.

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>>51239303
>>51239309
still not worthless

>>51239414
>I'll call him a newfag!
Nice argument.

>>51239402
>Chaos was losing in Warhammer End Times too, until Skaven joined them

No they weren't.

>>51239415
>is a gem
>holds souls
>not allowed to be called a soulgem

feel free to take your autism somewhere else

So, how many of you think Eldar should not get love because their rules are broken?

>>51239426
Praetorians always were and always will be my least favorite regiment.

>>51239395
The fact that they know that their rules are complete and utter shit so they openly ignore them in their live streams is even worse than the idea that they just don't know their own rules.

Hell, I'd be okay with it if it was part of them seeing the error in their ways and trying to tighten up the ruleset and codex imbalance, but these most recent releases show us that they still give zero shits.

>Slaanesh update never ever

;_;

>>51239430
>whines that /tg/ is a certain way
>asks when /tg/ became that way
>doesn't know that /tg/ has always been that way
>gets mad that he's called a newfag

I said lurkmore not prove that you're a newfag

>>51239231
>Everyone talking about how Creed was badass
>noone talks about Kell
Come one, his last words were "Cadia Stands", and thats when facing Abby, and after getting shot with a bolter, thats close to Ollianus level desu


>>51239402
But really, that whole "The Eye is expanding" thing is bullshit. They are giving Chaos a win no matter what, becasue the Imperium cant stop the Eye from getting bigger. I hate to say it, but its all up to xenos now.

>>51239287
Dont you dare compare my Guardsmen to those snowflakes, they have no balls. NO BALLS I SAID.

>>51239423

Yeah. That was my thoughts. They'd need to skyrocket her price if she went AP2.

Instead she can 'merely' soak 2 Str D instant-kills before one actually kills her. Plus an extra one each turn.

>>51239426
>>51239457
These and Steel Legion are the only Guard i'd make an army of if they were plastic
Well Catachan too

>>51239454
You could tone down a lot of the Eldar strength with system level changes. I.e. weaken bikes and the D. I don't mind Eldar getting cool stuff.

>>51239415
You're like the weeb equivalent of the "closeted gay the overreacts to the slightest implication of homosexuality."

>>51239438
Glottkin was killed, Empire had new allies, first Incarnate was formed
And they had a literal death god at their side

Chaos would lost if Skaven didn't blow up Black Pyramid

>>51239463
They probably have to get to the point that they're ready to do Slaanesh in AoS too. So I'd expect Nurgle first.

>>51239486
>using existing armies
>not making up your own regiment of guys
Sure, they will be using Cadian shit, but at least they will be YOUR DUDES

>>51239464
>lol lurk more
>newfag xD
>actually scraping the bottom of the barrel this much to try to prove his meme isn't complete shit

>>51239486
Praetorians are literally headswap Mordians though.

>>51239402
They weren't, in fact Skaven only made a pact because they feared what Chaos would achieve. Skaven were a bit of a non-power in ET, they only defeated dwarfs, lizardmen and small human kingdoms before warping out of the planet. One throwaway Nurgle horde wrecked everything from Marienburg to Altdorf.

>>51239513
>tfw your first army was an IG regiment modeled after the regiment that my character was 'gifted' in a Rogue Trader campaign.

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>>51239465
veterans are in some ways better than them anyway right? Anyway, now with cadian gones, does that mean that there are no more karskins? And what so many hate the scions?

>>51239506
The Incarnates could barely fight hold off Ka'Bandha.
They didn't even fight a tiny fraction of Archaon's army'.
They would have lost hard in a straight up confrontation.

>>51239508
Nurgle got tons of new stuff up to and around End Times while Slaanesh got nothing.
Slaanesh hasn't gotten anything since the flayer chariot about 4-5 years ago.

If Cadia is gone, will we finally get new IG infantry models?

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>>51239513
how and where does one make these nice miniatures?

>>51239423
Celestine is basically a wall.

Distraction Celestine if you want. Unless you can constantly make 3 wounds to her she simply won't die.

D weapons is another thing, because honestly between the rule book and the FAQ they got more confusing.

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>>51239454
also don't eat too much candy, or else you vomit green

>>51239551
Vets are the manliest shit ever. But yeah, I dont really hate the gloryboys, but they are the spoiled kids in the Guard (even though they are orphans kek).

>>51239578
Kitbashing.
>it isn't even based

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>>51239572
they should bring back squats!

>>51239520
>>>reddit
if you don't like how /tg/ is you're not going to change it by shitposting, as you can see we live and breathe shitposting here

>>51239454

if you ignore the silly heavy weapon balance on the bikes and the horrifying things done to poor wraith-guard then eldar are actually the best designed codex GeeDubs has released since 4th

everything in the codex is good, everything in the codex can be used and you can make a fluffy army and still kick the local cheesemongering faggots ass with it.

people complain with how the book is designed, but I say that other codex's should model themselves after the eldar dex, its really fucking good even if it needs toning down in some areas

cos right now saim hann and Iyanden are unplayable for the exact opposite reason that orks and nids are, and thats because they're far too strong

>>51239598
>basing
what are you, gay?

>>51239560
The Dark Prince is the only one without new toys since Tzeentch just got his release now. So guessing Slaanesh is next. Assuming Aelves are next on AOS cycle.

>>51239560
Nurgle still needs a GUO at least, and plastic Plague Marines on the 40k side.

>>51239605
They aren't going to do that. Stop shitposting this image everywhere.

>>51239580
Exactly. If she got AP2. She'd evolve to an unstoppable force. Able to kill models 1.5-2× her price with ease.

She's good where she is now imo

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>>51239592
still, it is nice to see "normal" humans being made into a somewhat "elite" force that fight alongside with the likes of the ultramarines, and all in all people like fancy nice masked soldiers like the karskins.

Maybe they made this new army to sell more idk.
Too bad I live in Brazil so there`s not community whats so ever. Bad stuff

>>51239572
No, Nova Cadia or some shit.

They haven't updated SoB and they haven't updated the Cadian plastic set in decades. Just made it smaller and more expensive.

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New SM player from last thread that was thinking about switching to Dark Angels instead of Ravenguard.

I tried using the list builder in OP, from my current collection I will just be using my two rhinos, twenty tacticals, and librarian.

I also have two of the test marines I can use for extra bodies in the Devastator Squad.

Will this list be good enough for 1000pts, all I have played so far is 500.

>>51239648
She's broken as fuck. Practically impossible to kill, gives out an aura of buffs, and can kill pretty much anything other than 2+ saves.

>>51239651
Karskins arent your usual glorboys though, they are vets withing the vets. Also I know that feel, here in Poland all we have is tau cheeselords and Spesh mahreens newbies, who dont want to forge a narrative.

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>>51239643
bbut it``s the first time uploading this
(though i`ve always find it quite silly to have orks and now the space dwarves.. )

>>51239572
Hopefully. The basic kits are really damned old. Part of the issue in changing regiments though is that Cadians are seeded throughout the entire range as vehicle crew.

>>51239648
>it's ok that she's broken because SoB haven't got updates in so long

fuck this meme logic

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>>51239614

really every book should be on the eldar power-level because its capable of both high tier competitive games and funny beer and pretzels mess-arounds, as well as narrative campaigns

if all the other codex's were on a similar level then you could builld a thematic list with strengths and weaknesses for a re-inaction of a lore battle and if anyone abused the power of the dex they had you could build a list to combat it

its the only codex that can be played at any tier (even ork tier so long as you're careful) and ensure that both parties still have fun

tau on the other hand are just broken as an army unfortunately

>>51239530
>They only wiped out two rulebook armies and numerous human subfactions.
>They only pulled morrisleb closer then blew it up, empowering chaos with warpstone everywhere

I mean sure the real conflict was death v chaos, but skaven were all over.

>>51239695
and you've identified why IG (astra millitarum) will always be cadians

>>51239701

>Eldar
>Capable of being played at lower tier

Not really.

What you're thinking of is a codex like Space Marines or Necrons. Pretty much anything in the Eldar codex barring Wraithlords or Storm Guardians are too effective to be played in lower level games.

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>>51239701

its not even tau's fault either, its because this edition and last edition are so slanted towards ranged combat that the ranged specialists are sure to be oppressive to play against because their theoretical weakness doesn't really exist

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>>51239687
yeah i know that. Thpugh this glory boys mock feeling seems a little forced anyway. Sure karskins have more of a brother feel to them, but to look down upon the glory boys isn`t something one would do, specially in the universe of w40k

>>51239686

And she kinda runs face into 'Doing very little' if 2+ saves turn up.

The buffs are also not bad but aside from the LoW one, they are for a single turn each game.

>>51239686
She's still T3 and forced to allocate Wounds to her Twins first. Who in turn are just 2W Sisters.

Bolters / standard weapons will rip apart the Twins. Follow up with standard HQ killing force. She's strong, but not breaking imo.

She gets strong when you start using low quantity strong weapons

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>>51239686
New Celestine is a Distraction Carnifex

The only problem I see is that she can be put in army. If it was SoB exclusive she should be like 50 points cheaper

>>51239633
Apparently the Glottkin was supposed to be the new GUO but looked too different so they made it a character. I don't know how much weight that holds but I doubt anyone other than a sperg would be mad if you used a Glottkin as a GUO.

I agree Plague Marines need a new model but Noise Marines have been stuck with just an update kit that looks mediocre where as Plague Marines look quite good.

>>51239701
>(even ork tier so long as you're careful)
show me the ork tier eldar list

>>51239614
my point is: I would LOVE plastic aspects or an avatar model, but we don't deserve it. there are model line out there who deserve it way more to get new or updated models. And with Duncans cat video it is almost sure we get at least one char...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPb17XN5W0g

At last... the full rune of the Avatar of Ynnead.

>>51239746
I don't think it's that hard to stick her with some Vanguard Vets if AP2 is an issue.

>>51239762
>The only problem I see is that she can be put in army. If it was SoB exclusive she should be like 50 points cheaper

ahahahahahhahahahaha
no

>>51239508
Archaon's new model has 3 heads for Tzeentch, Nurgle and Khorne.
You seriously think they'd back out of it so soon? I think Slaanesh is gone for good or at least years in AoS and since the daemon line is shared between AoS and 40k, my guess is he's getting squatted here too.

>>51239779
No, Eldar as an army may not deserve updates as much as other armies, but holy shit some Aspects and the Avatar literally haven't been updated since 2nd edition, and those that have been are ageing (Dark Reapers, Fire Dragons).

>>51239699
The thing is that she is not broken. It just /tg/ usual armchair general perspective.

If you could put 3 of them maybe. But just one she is just an annoying Necron lord.