Theoretically, what would a Chaotic Lawful alignment look like?

That's not how the alignment system works, frogposter.

>>51232950
Sounds like neutral.

Alternatively, if you insist on trying to come up with an example, maybe like Two-Face or some shit. He strictly leaves things to chance.

>>51232992
Someday, I will own this board.

>>51233007
Wouldn't that make him chaotic?

think Sheogorath or a game of Calvinball.

There are rules, but the rules change and they honestly don't mean anything. A chaotic lawful character has his own rues, and is determined to make everyone else follow his rules too.

something like a negative positive number I would expect.

Not every nation has the same set of laws. Chaotic lawful would follow different codes of law at different times. Given the variance between systems of law this would allow for both chaos and lawfulness.
Eg in this nation murder is not legal but in another state it is allowed under certain conditions. Following the laws of the second state cl character kills npc in the first state. Violates local law but doesn't violate alignment.

>>51233227
not how chaos or law works

>>51232950
dumb frogposter

>>51233239
Low energy response.

Can you have a Evil Good alignment?

The answer is yes, just like good or evil is a matter of perspective, law are chaos are subjective as well

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It would basically be a badly-played LG Paladin. He'd brutally execute a pickpocket with explosives or fire, injuring or even killing several other innocent people. He'd insist on the letter of the law at all times, ignoring the spirit of it and extenuating circumstances. It wouldn't make a difference if the criminal had never done anything bad before, or had sincerely repented, or if the whole thing was just a misunderstanding: if you break the law you suffer the harshest penalties possible.

Also that's not how alignment works you triple double nigger.

>>51232950
Cat morality.

>>51233029
Probably, but we're stretching things to make it work the way OP wants. I can't think of a way to get closer.

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>>51233436
so, Rorschach

>>51233459
Wait, no, never mind. Rorschach cares about the innocent.

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>>51233467
More like Equinox. Which comes off as Lawful Neutral with a Selfish Motive.

My only rule is that I don't follow rules.

>>51233485
I don't know Equinox. Does he brutally murder people that he thinks are unethical without considering the potential negative ramifications of his actions? That's what LC would boil down to.

>>51233557
He does so, except he considers the ramifications of his actions as needing to "balance out the scales," so he's the sort who will strap a hero and a villain to a death machine, set it to go off, and call the scales even.

He was from Brave and the Bold, set up as one chosen by the Lords of Order and the Lords of Chaos to balance the conflict between the two. The stress of doing it all made him go rogue. Doesn't get more Chaotic Lawful than that.

>>51233632
I think I remember seeing him in an opening to a BB episode once. He's probably the closest thing to an LC that can be found.

>>51232950
neutral

>>51233632
That's how neutral characters back in 1e worked.

>>51233678
>>51233632
>>51233557
>>51233485

Well, there's your answer OP, Equinox.

http://braveandbold.wikia.com/wiki/Equinox

>>51233632
>chosen by the Lords of Order and the Lords of Chaos to balance the conflict between the two
that's metal as fuck

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>>51233294
>>51233436
That's why it's theoretical

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>>51233752
Equinox was the most well-written villain in that series.

But seriously, Music Meister was best villain. Neil Patrick Harris pulling a Dr. Horrible and controlling everyone in the DC universe with the power of being a choir-boy? Best episode for lulz alone.

>>51233027
Does man own the mountains and the rivers? No they belong to God.

>>51232950
A lawful citizen with schizophrenia or something leading to infrequent outburst of erratic behavior.

>>51232950
Someone operating in a set of rules that are always changing.

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>>51232950
>Theoretically, what would a Chaotic Lawful alignment look like?
The Pi Man. PDF related.

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>>51232950

>>51233029
>>51233442
I think he means that in situations where he would normally make a choice, he elects to leave it to a random element like a coin flip. Introducing chance, rather than letting the world throw chance at him.

>>51232950
Theoreticly what would a red green look like?

>>51234586
Like a frog in a blender.

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>>51232950
If he's not neutral he's a champion of balance.
>>51233734 qualifies.
Elric of Melnibone would qualify as well (after the fall of melnibone) in some regard but he'd be doing a bad job at it.

>>51234602
So like your face then?

>>51233887
Well we are getting it all over again soon, Music Meister is gonna be in The Flash.

>>51233726
They murdered both the hero's and the bbeg? No. But also yes.

>>51233438
This.

>>51235226
Neutral = Balance though

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>>51232950
>Theoretically, what would a Chaotic Lawful alignment look like?
>Chaotic Lawful
I am genuinely surprised this wasn't everyone's first thought.

>>51235737
it isn't though
neutral is balanced by nature but will lean different ways depending of context
champion of balance will fight to preserve balance every time

>>51235858
So, nature and neutral is balanced is what you're saying.

Good doesn't mean ALL GOOD ALL THE TIME EVEN IF IT MEANS MY DEATH and Chaotic doesn't preclude any act of any sort of orderly act at all. Neutral isn't fighting to turn the universe into a grey sea.

>>51232950
Yes.

>>51233485
>>51233734
Equinox is the best example of Lawful Chaotic, but not Chaotic Lawful.

>>51234309
goddamn love me some Bester, thx anon

>>51235875
My point being balance is a cosmic concept as is law and chaos.
The word for saying you are balanced in the amount of law and chaos within you is neutral. Balance is what people actively seek to remain neutral follow.
I've never heard of champions of neutrality on the good/evil spectrum.

>>51232950
Like Evil Good but turned sideways.

>>51233632
Sounds like the Rilmani from Planescape, the True Neutral planar race of the True Neutral plane of the Outlands.

>>51232950
Neutral on the Lawful Axis

>>51233029
Nope, he's got a rigid, inflexible personal code. Maximum Law.

>>51233029
A suffiently chaotic system is maximally fair.
He EXCLUSIVELY uses coin flips, even were he to mostly not want to. He follows his code of chaos.

>>51233383
The answer is no, because neither are subjective in dnd world.

>>51232950
He strictly follows the code of anarchocapitalism

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>>51236509
>ancap
Spooky.

>>51236509
Anarcho-capitalists are obviously chaotic evil or opportunistic neutral evil.

>>51232950
The normal alignment chart features combinations of methods and intentions.
Chaotic and Lawful are both methods in this classification, so you can go two ways here:
The character uses mehods of two extremes (but not the in between, as he is not neutral in his methods) for no clear purpose (or, a neutral purpose).
An example for this would be a politician who puts up a lawful front, commits minor crimes just for the thrill of it.

The second way to go is to interpret one of the two words as the intention.
The easier one to picture would be a charactet who uses the law to cause as much chaos as possible.
Like the head of a software company who deliberately changes the layout of the buttons whenever most people start feeling comfortable with the last one.

Theoretically, what would hot cold feel like?

>>51237413
Never heard of freezing burns?

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>>51232950

>>51236468
That has nothing to do with Law.

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Or maybe Lawful Chaotic.

>>51232950
>Theoretically, what would a Chaotic Lawful alignment look like?

Neutral, obviously. Since there are no actions that are simultaneously chaotic and lawful, they'd have to compromise and pick an action that doesn't serve one more than the other. The result is, of course, neutral.

You could argue that maybe they'll pick one purely lawful action, and later a purely chaotic action to "balance" it, but that would be closer to schizophrenia or straight up MPD than a singlular philosophy.

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>>51232950
Enthropy is the law of nature. To act in line with the universal principles of the universe, the Chaotic Lawful seek to cause as much enthropy as possible. Not out of self-interest or boredom, but out of duty. Much like how the brave frogposters, under the guidance of the Chaotic Lawful Kek, god of repeating digits, created entropy in America by meming Trump into the white house.

Next stop: France, the ancestral homeland of the frogs.

>>51237444
That's still cold though, it's just that your body can't process it past a certain point.

>>51237413
I've actually felt that before. Get a hot bath, then turn on the cold water a little bit and put your hand under the point where the two meet. You get swirls of hot and cold coiling around each other, it's pretty neat.

>>51238608
>frogposting to bump a shitty frogpost thread

Can you trip up already?

"There can never exist a lawful chaos or an evil good. These, and their reverses, are dichotomous. This is not to say that they cannot exist in the same character or creature if it is insane or controlled by another entity, but as general divisions they are mutually exclusive pairs. Consider also the alignment graph. If law is opposed to chaos, and good to evil, then the radically opposed alignments are lawful neutral - chaotic neutral, neutral good - neutral evil, lawful good - chaotic evil, and lawful evil - chaotic good. Lawful groups, for example, combine to put down some chaotic threat, for example, just as readily as good groups would combine to suppress some powerful evil.

>>51238601
>Since there are no actions that are simultaneously chaotic and lawful
What if chaos is law?
Think literal Mad King, anything goes all the time.
Got a daily routine?
You're in jail.
Work one day, murder 3 people the next?
Model citizen.

>>51238608


>Next stop: France, the ancestral homeland of the frogs.

Ok that was hilarious.

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>>51232950
Okay.
Chaotic Lawful would differ from honorcode to honorcode, so stick with me here.

>Be knight, uphold your laws
>As a knight, anything you do is lawful because you are the law
>Man takes purse from an old woman
>See this
>You chase down the culprit, unstoppable hulk of iron and righteousness cannot be stopped
>You destroy several doors, walls, and some vendor stalls, as well as knock over a few elderly people before finally catching up with him and kicking his shit in
>Take the purse back to the old woman, ignoring the damage done because "greater good"
>Give her the purse
>You broke everything in it on accident because you got a bit zealous
>Continue on way

>>51233029
He has one clear rule: probability decides it all.

>>51232950
Like WH40Kids chaos shit.

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>>51232950
The Boros Legion.

An entire faction of hotheaded cowboy cops who don't play by the rules.

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>>51234586

>>51244350
This guy's kind of got it, the character would become the law. They'd probably have a god complex of sorts, and a VERY flexible definition of "Justice".

A person that believes firmly in the law that states everything eventually becomes chaos

>>51232950
Any latin country as they are all consistently inconsistent.

>>51232950
Man, frogposters are literally the worst people here.

>>51236630
Ancaps are like the definition of neutral evil

>>51236621
I sometimes wonder if there would be as many Stirner memes if we had an actual picture of the guy instead of that fucking sketch

It's just so perfect for image macros

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>2017
>People still falling for this

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>>51232950