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Castellan Edition

Old thread: >>51199700

>HERE BE THE LIST BUILDER
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>Freshest Rules in Epub (Use Readium for PC or Kobo on Android)
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>Not always current PDFs:
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https://mega.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

>Up to date FAQs
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata

>40K 7th Edition Quick Reference Sheets:
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef.pdf

>Forge World Book Index:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

> The Black Library(Stay the fuck away from the clowns)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!c4pGAJDb
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>>51203471
FIRST FOR POSTERIZE PHOTOSHOP EFFECT
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>>51203471
First for THE BANEBLAAAAAAAADE
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So I got two of the dark eldar starter boxes last week after reading the dark eldar codex they sounded fun as fuck- albeit paper thin.

Anyhow is this the war gear you'd run on them?

I'm not sure about the Aethersails or more wargear on the Archons..
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>Orks are a melee race!
>I2
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>As vehicle models do not usually have bases, the normal rule of measuring distances to or from a base cannot be used. Instead, for distances involving a vehicle, measure to and from their hull, ignore gun barrels
>But when firing a vehicle’s weapons, ranges are measured from the muzzle of the firing weapon

What's stopping me from making an invincible weapon like pic related
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>>51203471
Paper > Epub edition
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Fall of Cadia epub yet?
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>>51203474
No, I'm saying that 99.99% of people who pirate a digital e-reader file are not interested in printing it out, genius.
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>>51203513
generally in that situation your opponent will snap the weapon, flip the table and never play with you again
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>>51203513
Physical violence. Nobody bats an eye if I'm going to dreadsock your sorry ass.

And no, not any pussyass new helbrutes, old metal chaos dreadnaughts. Lots of weight and spiky bits.
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>Get gifted the Betrayal at Calth box
>Decide to make some loyalists
>Flip flop between chapters, eventually settle on Black Templars for the melee horde
>Open box
>No pistols, only boltguns

Fuck me. Do you think people would mind if I fix bayonets to them?
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Threadly reminder that Kranon was intended to be a legal set-up based on the current CSM codex.
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>>51203471

>We're going to build up Abaddon as a legitimate villain
>gets bullied by two women

This is NOT how you go about it, GW
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>>51203555
Or maybe he was supposed to be a special Character which had all those relics but they didn't bother and ended up just putting his gear in the relic list.
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>>51203564
Horrible paintjob.
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>>51203506
I'd split the reavers, run lances on the raiders, and throw blasters and splinter cannons in the Warriors. You also need a place to put the Archons, drop a Warrior (and Splinter Cannon if you gave it to him) to make room. Also, going forward you should drop one of the Archons entirely.
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Big Bird in da house.
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>>51203513
>What's stopping me from making an invincible weapon like pic related
Fists, middle fingers, and Tournament Organizers.
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>>51203603
And his friend Changeman.
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>>51203555
FAQs happen. Too bad man.
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>>51203581
That's from a page that says "here's the Crimson Slaughter characters and how to make them."

Nice job continuing last threads method of "make up implausible excuses."
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So does this new superfriends Castellan Detatchment mean I can take multiple chapter tactics in the same Detatchment? Raptors Tactical and Raven Assaults? Red Hunter Librarian with Salamander Redeemers?
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>>51203603
too swole
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>>51203534
>>51203596
>>Who the fuck downloads a digital file they can read on any electronic device, and decides to print it out on paper instead?
No one, now that GW uses epubs.

This happened all the fucking time. It still happens with tg related books. Anytime you playin with some spiral bound fucker, they stole that shit.

GW said, well, fuck, we'll make a lot less convenient to steal the paper books. And we'll use a format you can only read easily using our we-can-see-if-you-really-bought-it software, so that hopefully you'll just be like, "god damn it's worth buying just to not have to put up with this shit"
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>>51203625
What do the Chapter Tactics rules in Codex: Space Marines tell you about detachments?
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>>51203624
So the design team and the fluff team had different views, big fucking surprise.
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>>51203564
They gutted that model horribly
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>>51203471
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>>51203577
And an old man.

Abaddon the Harmless

Beating by a wounded, powerless woman. Stab right through his Terminator armour.

Chaos stay shit
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>>51203603
>>51203615
New models boyz.

Who MIXED DAEMONS MASTER RACE here?
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>>51203625
Well the units are part of the same detachment, so I would think they had to have the same Chapter Tactics as eachother.
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>>51203638
>we'll use a format you can only read easily using our we-can-see-if-you-really-bought-it software
What? Doesn't GW literally just tell you use some free e-Reader?
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>>51203513
the fact that it won't be able to shoot at anything closer than 48"?
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>>51203644
See, making shit up again. There's nothing to imply that different groups did that. Christ, all of those relics on Kranon are literally designed to be his relics. Their names, their backstory, everything.
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>>51203648
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>>51203664
what is drm
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>>51203625
Yes. But each would only benefit from their respective chapter tactics of course. Also I don't think most opponents would have an issue, but you might run into problems when taking Chapter Tactics from outside Codex: Space Marines since those aren't technically on the source referred to by the Castellan formation.
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>>51203539
>>51203540
>>51203607
I think that'd be way easier to play against. >>51203669
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>>51203672
That's what I meant by my first post, maybe Kranon was supposed to be an actual Character in the book, but they ended up not going with it and instead decided to take his gear and make them into relics.

I'm just making up theories because the FACT is that you can't fucking do it.
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>>51203512
Maybe Orks were meant to be a ranged race?
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do people think the castellan formation could be competitive at 1000k points or it would be too low? I measured out an army list but to be honest, the 2 HQ and 4 troops doesnt allow for much in terms of elites/heavy etc and it feels like it might be too inflexible even if they come back on a 5+
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>>51203704
Ahh nevermind
>>51203643
>>51203658
have the right of it. Even if you take one of the BT special characters that would judt force your troops into BT tactics and there are no Special Characters from other chapters available.
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>>51203679
But GW doesn't tell you to use some special software. They just have you use a free e-Reader. They have no way of knowing if your copy is legit.
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>>51203679
Apparently nothing, seeing that all their files can be read on just about any e-reader I can find. But hey, at least I won't go printing them out, because fuck having all the book conveniently on a digital device.
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>>51203713
>I'm just making up
I know. You can stop.

The FACT is, Kranon was intended to be a legal set-up according to an official GW publication. You getting your knickers in a twist won't change that.

>inb4 you continue to pretend I'm trying to say it's a legal set-up currently
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>>51203737
The only way to make it cheap and work would be Coteaz, a priest and 4 Scion troops 405 points and you have the minimum
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>>51203737
Corteaz, Cheap secondary HQ, remaing pts spent on scions squads with melta/plasma guns.
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>>51203766
>>51203713
>>51203672
>>51203644
>>51203624
>>51203581
>>51203555

Stop. This is profoundly stupid and pointless.
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>>51203766
I'm not the one who has dragged an argument across two threads for an issue that was settled months ago.
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Anyone have guide like this, but for Heresy Era Word Bearers?
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>>51203603
>>51203615
Why are you posting AoS models in a 40K thread?
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>>51203791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPH6qFskBzw&t
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>>51203766
Intended to be legal, until the design team decided otherwise or forgot that they had to ensure it.

One way or the other, he isn't legal. I'd let you play him, simply because as a Tau player I don't think I should be alone in the relic-stacking fun. But he isn't legal, chaos-bro.
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>>51203818
I've meant something like this
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>Emperor was created when a bunch of prehistoric psykers killed themselves at the same time
>Tens of thousands of psykers kill themselves daily on Terra to keep the Emperor alive
>This doesn't form a new Emperor
???
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>>51203844
What, the grey? Then just do Mechanicus Standard Grey, recess shade Nuln Oil, and highlight with Administratum Grey.
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>>51203860
Know your lore. When emperor was created, individual psykers were way more powerful.
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>>51203889
Thanks
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>>51203895
How powerful are we talking?
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>>51203860
They don't kill themselves, they die of exertion keeping the golden throne running. No new emperor is born because he's already sucking up all their psychic power.
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>>51203908
No idea. Its just mentioned that they were much more powerful and no daemons around back then.
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>>51203471

So I'm coming back after a long absence.

What're datacards and formations?

Are formations like premade army lists or what? I think they might've come out during Apocalypse but I was hardly paying attention back then
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I would like to paint my guard with white armor and gray gear. Does anyone know what citadel paints I would need?
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>>51203506
Sell or trade one of the Archons if possible. You usually want to split units into as many small units as possible unless you are taking transports. Aethersails ain't worth it.

Now get two start collecting Eldar boxes and a Wraithknight and you are good to go. You could also go the way of Ravagers, more bikes and more dudes in Venoms or a unit of 5 Talos using the Haemonculus Covens supplement.
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>>51203928
Either way, if prehistoric Earth had enough psychic power on its own to make the Emperor, a galaxy-wide Imperium with hundreds of trillions of humans should be able easily scrounge together enough power to make Emperor 2.0.

How about during that whole witch-hunting phase the Imperium went through? Are you telling me there was never a moment where more than a handful of non-exhausted, psychically-viable humans were all executed at the same time?
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>>51203942
>datacards
Fancy GW term for unit entries.

As for the rest you really need to read the "preparing your army" section of the rulebook. Armies are organized into a series of detachments. One detachment is the "Combined Arms Detachment" which is basically the old Force Organization chart, but not all of them are like that. Formations are a type of detachment that usually grant benefits in exchange for being much pickier about which units are included.
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>>51203942
Datasheets are your unit stats and options.

Formations are specific groups of units that you can take to get an extra bonus effect.
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>>51203822
>he isn't legal
Never said he was, tard-kun.

This isn't any fun when all you morons do is make shit up and respond to things that were never said.
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>>51203956
Emperors creation required a ritual, not just suicides
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>>51204007
No one said anything about James Bond.
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>>51203946
Dawnstone with an Administratum Grey hightlight for that grey. Nuln Oil or Agrax Earthshade for shade.

For white armor use Ulthuan Grey base, recess shade with Agrax Earthshade and highlight with white scar. What this video for a demonstration.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtZnWSU4JjE
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>>51203946
Celestra Gray. Ulthuan Gray. Those make white. Edge high light in white scar. Eshin Gray for your actual Gray. Alternate take. Prime Corax white then paint the Gray using some Gray base. Probably easier since guard is high model count
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>>51204007
Celestine isn't fat.
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>>51203860
>>51203895
>>51203908
>>51203928
>>51203956
>>51204030
>people don't know that the Emperor's just one of many immortal humans who made a deal with the dark gods for power and then backstabbed them
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>>51203544

If you can pull it off well it could be cool but if you're like me you'd be better off grabbing a bunch of chainswords on ebay
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>>51204086
She is not fat she is T H I C C
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I'm thinking of Painting my skitarii in Ryza but the painting guide with jokaero orange looks too washed out. Any recommendations to swap the orange out for to make it richer?
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>>51204121
Add a layer of troll slayer orange over it.
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>>51203513
its called modelling for advantage. old school rule, you cant do pic related legally
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>>51204121
Do a layer of Troll Slayer Orange over the Jokaero and highlight with Fire Dragon Bright. You'll want to start with the Jokearo though or you'll have a hell of a time getting it to cover.
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>>51203655
One day we will get new Slaanesh models.
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>>51203775
>>51203781

Yeah that's what Im looking at now.

I originally had

Celestine ...200

Coteaz ...100

Henchman warband...99
3 servitors with multimeltas
acolyte with meta

DT Chimera

Sister squad x5 ...135
Flamer, Heavy Flamer

DT: Immolator

Sister squad x5 ...135
Flamer, Heavy Flamer

DT: Immolator

Space Marine Squad x5 ...160
Grav Gun
Razor back with Las and Twin Linked Plas

Space Marine Squad x5 ...160
Grav Gun
Razor back with Las and Twin Linked Plas

for 989 so some flexibility with special weapons


But i dont think thats nearly enough threats at 1k.
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You guys mind checking out Codex - Space Marines Angry Smurf Edition? It's a fandex on 1d4chan, I'm going to be making a PDF but I'd like to get some initial feedback as well as letting you fix spelling and grammar as you find mistakes before I make the PDF, sorry about showing you an unrefined product. I will have an alpha version codex for every faction ready by the end of the month, I hope.
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>>51203799
>>Changeling and Fatweaver
>>not 40k

wat
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>>51204173
3 Riptides. God I hate that broken and abortion of a model
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>>51203564
It's supposed to be Scoria.
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In kill team mode i can choose just models or it must be aquads as in normal game? And i seen rule "no 2+ save" but in "herold of ruin" rules terminators with 2+sv can be picked
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>>51204173
Personally I'd drop the henchmen/Chimera and downgrade two of your troops to 5 man melta Scions and get two Exorcists.
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>>51203603
>>51203615
Fateweaver's great (the LoC kit seems much better than the new Bloodthirster in general), but something about the resculpted Changeling doesn't look right to me.
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>>51204176
No one will ever use it, anon.
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So Im a bit new to the hobby (and retarded) and glued my Company Command Squad to the bases before I painted the bases themself. Will it be hard to paint them or should I just give it up and go with the good ol black bases? Im asking becasue I dont know if I should buy Armageddon dust or not.
On the side note, Im personally proud of my models, even though they are not too good, but it was my first time
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>>51204263
GW KT =\= HoR. Two different rulesets. There's a Kill Team General, they can go in depth.
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Drooling retard here. How are you expected to properly use relatively soft units with Heavy weaponry?

Pathfinders are a good example. Unless you're going first and Scout into position before the game begins, how can you realistically expect them to survive a turn after moving into a position where they can see the enemy (and presumably the enemy can see them)? Won't they get blown the fuck up 100% of the time? What sane opponent would not unleash everything on the Pathfinder squad (not that it would take much), or failing that, simply move out of LOS?

Or are Pathfinders only usable if you're going first and Scout into position like I said?
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>>51203860
Needs a trigger event
Just like Ynnead needed a trigger
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>>51204279
First
>get rid of your name

Second
>it'll be a little annoying to base them but you can should do it
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>>51204279
Not hard. Just be sure you dont fuck up with our glue/paints and you'll do right.
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>>51204279
It's fine. Plenty of people do it in that order as normal operating procedure including the official GW tutorials.
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>>51204298
You have them sit right back out of range of most enemy units. But yes, they will attract a lot of attention either way, because letting Markerlights survive is a mistake.
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>>51204298
If you go first, then scout into firing lanes.

If second, hide behind walls so the enemy can't see you, move up and fire. You'll be snap shooting but you do have markerlights.
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>>51204279
It's fine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5uspM2u4MQ
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>>51203513
This is why Forgeworld Vanquishers are objectively better than GW Vanquishers. but fortunately the odds of firing a weapon greater than 72" anywhere other than apocalypse are slim at best.
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>>51204298
Target Priority. If they are only unit in range&los that can eat those heavy bolters, they are going to. But if that bloody Riptide is keeping an objective that opponent badly needs, chances are that those heavy bolters will be directed towards it even if they have bad chance to wound it.

Remember that just like yourself, your opponent is also (usually) playing in the way that he is trying to get objectives and react to biggest threat. If you have big threats, smaller ones go mostly unharassed.
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>>51204298
You're Tau. The enemy is going to be coming to you. Cover lanes of approach and hit them and they come in.
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>>51204328
Having them sit back is the equivalent of not fielding them at all, though. Are you just hoping your opponent forgets about them and moves into their sight without firing on them?

>>51204330
>You'll be snap shooting but you do have markerlights.
Unless I'm more retarded than I put out, snapshots mean the markerlights will only hit if you roll a 6, right? Or do markerlights have some special rule that I'm not seeing in the codex?

It's just hard to wrap my head around. In the few games I've played, my Pathfinders have done practically nothing outside of the first turn, if that.
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>>51203731
Orks are a "Lots of attacks, very few hits, hits reliably kill" race, both in shooty and melee. At least, that's how it SHOULD work.

>Fire shootahs Everywhere
>All but 2 shots miss
>2 pasted enemies.

>Swing Ax like madman
>Easily dodge all but one incoming attack
>Attack sends the space marine flying off the table.

THAT'S how it should be. So why are they strength freaking 3?!
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>>51204173
What about drop the Acolyte and replace them for the Inquisition Acolyte squads psykers.
2 squads of 2 Acolytes and 1 Psyker for 16 points. Prescience galore for everyone!
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>>51204357
This makes a lot more sense. I don't actually field any Riptides or Stormsurges, so I guess my opponents haven't had much reason not to shoot the Pathfinders.
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Would it be unreasonable to stick knives or chainsword bits onto the end of bolters and count them as a bolt pistol+CC weapon?
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>>51204398
Yeah. Try picking up Stormsurge and then do the unthinkable: march forward. It might be shooty ws2 platform with S5 and A2 but its still GC and such stomps its way through most stuff in melee. That is going to put your opponents fire into it like no tomorrow.

But just be smart about it. No use charging Imperial Knight or something else that eats Stormsurge for breakfast in melee before it can Stomp and cause some 6's.
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>MFW Cadia is gone
>MfW I have cadian models painted cadian camo
>wasn't really a conscious decision, I got the models as a gift to start, and it was the only camo scheme I could find a guide for that I liked
>MFW I noticed after a few dozen models that I'd unconsciously changed the design
>Leather webbing instead of nylon
>leather chin strap instead of rigid plate
>different khaki
>My Cadians aren't from Cadia, but they're still Cadians4

You are now aware that Cadians are the golden standard for guardsmen and their kit - the helmet, the flak armor, the lasgun, the fatigues - is common the galaxy over on millions of worlds. As long as even one of these 'successor Cadias' still tithes guardsmen, there will be Cadians.

Cadia Stands.
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>>51204433
Cadia broke before the Cadians
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>>51204306
>dont fuck up the glue
Umm, I guess I can scrap it off, right?
>>51204307
That made me feel better.


>>51204433
That picture made me cry inside, its too good to be true. I was going to post my work but now I feel like a fool
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>>51203603

I really wish they would do a variant that didn't have the staff.
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>>51204448
Go ahead, anon. That's my 'natural 20' model. I don't even know how I did it. It came out absolutely perfect.

I've never been able to top it.
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>>51204333
What size of field do you people play on, normally?
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>>51203471
What do you guys use for inspiration for conversions?
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Since the original Cadia has been destroyed, can't they just pick a new world to call "Cadia" and continue the tradition?
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>>51203987
>>51204085

Hey thanks for the explanation guys. I appreciate it.
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So I really want to start the game with Dark Eldar, but everyone I've told that to has told me in no uncertain terms that they are the single worst army to start with.

Are they as fragile and unforgiving to play as they make out? I've been told that being tabled turn 2 or 3 is fairly common for DEldar.
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>>51204433
>You are now aware that Cadians are the golden standard for guardsmen and their kit
That's pretty much the entire point of Cadians. An excuse for essentially a single kit to represent the myriad forms that Imperial Guardsmen come in. How did you only realize that now?
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>>51204333
That and they come with a co-ax.
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So, where do I get all the las/autopistols needed to turn Kairic Acolytes into Chaos Cultists?
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>>51204466
Thatsmy first wokr yet, my command squad (only 4 becasue Im waiting for my meltas to get here, so I can transfer nade lauchers to meltas). Im actually kind of proud of the vox guy.
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>>51204484
>you are now aware
Anon, he knew it all along. He was pointing it out to plebs like you.
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>>51204473
And it Terra
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>>51204483
If you really like them then go for it and just take your lumps. You'll learn and you have more fun painting and modeling an army you really love.
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>>51204502
wut, I flipped the pic. Weird.
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>>51204111
>THICC
There is no shame in fucking obese women, murica. We just don't share the same standarts
Just don't try to sell them as "thicc" or "chubby" or even "healthy at every size" please. Respect superior cultures
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>>51204502
Assuming for a second that you're looking for advice on improving...

>improve your camera work (focus, lightbox, et cetera)
>wash your models
>drill your barrels
>clean your moldlines

Easy stuff, but time-consuming.
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>>51204515
This is T H I C C anything beyond that is just fat and/or obese

Love Handles are need if the woman is not fit
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>>51204521
>improve your camera work (focus, lightbox, et cetera)
I was using my phone with a REALLY shitty camera, but I`ll try better next time
>wash your models
I actually did
>drill your barrels
I dont even know what it means, sorry
>clean your moldlines
Yes, I forgot to do it on my Vox guy, I realised that after you told me it. I guess its too late now
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>>51203513
If you fielded that I will take a guard vet with a melta gun and get armour bane on turn one.
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>>51204551
Weapons cant shoot without hole
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>>51203513
The Tau really need to stop compensating.
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>>51204578
I... I actually never thought about it. I`ll do it for the melta, but I dont think its an option for the las guns. Not like they need it too, after all they are using a lens. Thanks for all the advice though.
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>>51204273
Why is that, what are the problems with the codex?
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>>51204551
By the way, do they really look like they are not washed? I used quite a lot of agrax on them and nuln on the weapons(and one very unlucky guardsman`s arm) but I didnt want to overdo it.
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>>51204551
>drill your barrels
Refers to taking a pin vise or small drill and actually putting a hole on the end of larger-barreled weapons like meltaguns and bolters.

There's some debate as to whether you should drill plasma guns, because they're energy weapons, but the point stands.

Here's my converted ABG Vanquisher, The Orkin Man. note his hull and sponson guns have barrels that are drilled out. I also drilled out the co-ax and the pintle gun, though those are less visible.
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>>51204515
>waist slimmer than her head
>fat

Ok.
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>>51204279
Remove trip retard.
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>>51204597
You can just paint a black dot on the end.
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>>51204631
A wash adds depth but I suspect you either lost the detail in the lousy photo or didn't highlight them afterwards.

Just using the original color and lightly topping off the high bits will help. Notice in >>51204433 that the khaki has had this done; it's most evident on the pants and below the belt.
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>>51204643
But I am the retarded tripfag, how could I?

>>51204661
I did not highlight, you are right. I dont really understand how do I do it, even after watching saint`s Dunc video.
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>>51203860
To create E a lot of Malcador level psykers were needed. Also the warp has a lot to do with symbolism, and E was created out of biggest need, to counter Chaos gods. All of that, plus a lot more, and you got the man itself.
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>>51204502
>absolutely terrible paintjob
>unjustified tripfagging
just get out
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>>51203860
Just think how strong Emprah will be should he leave the throne.
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RGG here. Just saw Castellan formation. Considering I only own my guard plus a token ally Detatchment of Red Hunters I love the idea of this. Is it worth it using guardsmen for the troops though? I feel like Marines would just be tougher and worth more to 5+ return.
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>>51204700
Ok,ok I just wanted to be a little more obnoxious then most of the time. There, no more trip, happy?
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So, /tg/, disregard crunch and even looks entirely for a second, which is your favourite unit going entirely by fluff?

>Dark Eldar Reavers

They're basically drugged-up teenagers on hover bikes travelling at mach speeds. I think it was the 5th ed codex entry for them that discussed how they'll even pull off dumb stunts, like trading bikes in mid-air, to endanger themselves in the middle of battle, just for the sake of showing off.
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>>51204267
yeah im going to go the cheap and easy route that the previous poster mentioned.

>>51204229
its such a buzzkill.
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>>51204728
The average Guardsman uses good old fashioned cold steel and courage to take down the fiercest enemies in the universe.
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>>51204682
It depends on what you're trying to do. Going back to >>51204433 I used two different highlight methods, one on the khakis and one on the armor.

The khakis have a 'layer' highlight, as GW would call it. In this method you load the brush with the same color paint as the basecoat, then work most of it out on the pallete. then you brush the raised portions of the model, usually with the brush at a flat angle to the model to avoid getting bristles in the crevices, which will fuck up the wash. This has the effect of 'removing' the wash in those areas; wash builds up in the crevices but it actually darkens every area it touches, ESPECIALLY agrax earthshade.

The armor was a drybrush. This is a bit harder. Use a flat-headed brush (hobby stores will usually sell brushes designed specifically for this purpose) and load it up as before, but this time work most of the paint out on a paper towel or other absorbent material. you want to have paint on your brush, but no moisture. Test the brush by drawing it along your finger. If you can see the color on your skin after one stroke, it's not dry enough. If you CAN'T see it after ten, it's too dry.

Note that by 'stroke' i mean the kind of stroke you see archaeologists using to clean the dust off of dinosaur bones. Soft, rapid passes that only touch the raised bits of the model. The key to drybrushing is to realize that ONE STROKE SHOULD DO NOTHING. A proper drybrush only becomes visible to the naked eye after five or so.
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>>51204728
Raptors, DE Archons and Daemon Princes
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>>51204267
would you bring exorcists over leman russes or some decent anti air ( hunters/stalkers)?
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>>51204111
perfect
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>>51204638
>not drilling Plasma
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>>51204728
>Guard Vets
Those guys faced and survived fighting with shit that could kill them just by looking at them. And they still fight on, despite seeing their friends die and probably almost dying themselves. Plus they are normal people, not superhuman in a bunker on legs.
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>>51204775
AND HOW CAN THIS BE?
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>>>>51204728
Wyverns hands down. Each shell has a thousand pieces of gold shrapnel machined into the shape of the imperial aquilla and blessed by a priest.
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>>51203555

Threadly reminder of the Kranoness
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>>51204776
What I actually do is 'pit' the gun. I take a wide drill and bore down maybe 1/16 of an inch to create a 'dish' shape, representing the end of the plasma aperture.

In my mind the weapon's actual barrel is about a millimeter across, but the end of the gun has that dish shape to prevent heat wash from damaging the gun...or the user.

Since most plasma weapons are thousands of years old, it doesn't do it's job too good.
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>>51204793
FOR HE IS THE KWISATZ HADERACH
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>>51204550
>no hips
>thicc
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>>51204838
Am I the only one who finds veils like this sexy, together with their makeup it does things to me.
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>>51204847
i-its got super compression fibers f-for space an shit
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>>51204763
So I`ll try using that advice, but I have limited paints and skill in using them obviously. But still thanks. Just one question before it: what parts I SHOULD highlight? From what I got, not the enitre model, just some places, like knuckles on hands or the veins.
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>>51204853
You're not alone senpai.
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>>51204853
No, there is in fact an entire region of the world who finds this sexy
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>>51204728
Reavers are actually linked to the Wych cults.
They certainly hard drugged-up and giant showoffs, but not nearly as much as the hellions.
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It's down between Sisters (waiting for the plastic that may or may not come out this year... I'll give it until mid-summer before giving up hope) and Nurgle for a second army.

If I go Nurgle, this is the list I want to run and initially build towards.
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>>51204864
The veil is not supposed to be sexy in the middle east though. On the contrary, they wear them in order to cause less boners.

Unless you meant Scandinavia by entire region of the world.
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>>51204853
would work better with a featureless opaque mask
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>>51204871

Don't use Plague Marines as troops. If you're using the Death Guard rules (do it), MoN CSM are basically just as good as plague marines, for far less points.
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>>51204860
Well, some painters try and do a 'directional' highlight that makes it look like the light source is coming from one direction, but I've never found that to work.

In my mind, you're either going to be looking at the model under flourescent light, in which case the model's directional highlight will show (and in all likelihood not match the model next to it on the table) OR you'll have a bright light, in which case the directional highlight will clash with the ACTUAL highlight.

What I do is find ridges. On cadians, this will usually be the following:
>nose
>cheekbones
>chin
>any corners on the armor
>creases and folds on the fatigues
>tops of fingers and thumbs

Do it uniformly and you won't have a directional highlight. But I did it with >>51204433 and he seems to have turned out okay.
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>>51204728

All Ork Walkers.

They're loud, destructive, cheap and the Big Meks and Meks who create them are deranged and can have more mechanical aptitude than actual sense.

I read one Big Mek was so obsessed with creating Deff Dreads and Killa Kans that he took apart his Warboss's Battle Wagon to build some Kans for his Grot minders and oilers (it didn't end well for him).
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>>51204899
Assassinorium Temples plz
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>>51204774
>over leman russes
Absolutely. They're much better. Throw in a Wyvern if you want templates.

>decent anti air
AA is a luxury for once you have other things covered.
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>>51204728
Fire Dragons

I just like that this slowly dying race of ancient elves decides to stand really close to tanks just so they can die in a glorious explosion.
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What's the best general-use Imperial Knight?
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>>51204933
Crusader, only problem is that it's generally more expensive.
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>>51204933
Crusader. He's pricey and lousier in melee than other knights, but he still hits at S10AP2 and has MOUNTAINS of firepower.
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>>51204933
Melta and sword. Can bust anything from an IG platoon, to a Veteran Squad, to a Rhino to a Land Raider.
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>>51204949
Oh yeah, the key note is that he can bust other Knights, which is the key weakness of Crusaders which are basically useless against Knights unless they get lucky.
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>>51204910
I guess I shall get to highlighting tomorrow, thanks dude. Now I`ll actually use the Kislev flesh and Loren forest I bought. Oh, and by the way, are those models looking THAT bad? I actually thought there were looking quite nice, maybe nothing great but wont hurt the eye. Be honest, its important for me to know that.
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>Omegon remained loyal to the Emperor
>Became Janus, adopted primarch of Grey Knights
>Is locked in stasis in the Omega Vault
That fucker's gonna open soon, too.
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>>51204971
In all honesty, no. You kept it in the lines, you didn't swamp the details, and you DID wash. I've seen worse. I've FOUGHT worse.

But the camera butchered it and you asked how I did my stuff.
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>>51204933
Only answer is Poryphion.
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>>51204972
>W-who am I?
>You are Alpharius

FALL OF THE GREY KNIGHTS

SUMMER 2017
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>>51204997
Well, that helped my fraigle ego. Agian, thanks for the advice, I have something to do untill the rest of the models get delivered.
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Anyone got epub/pdf?
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>>51204774
nice. that gives me flashbacks to the withchunter codex so im all for it.
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>>51204774
I'm of the opinion that AA is situational, so you need to have a unit that can do that AND something else.

This usually means buying a Defence Line, since they provide excellent cover in addition to cheap anti-air. For a guard player, a Hydra for 33% less points that can't be killed and provides cover for your dudes is a steal.
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>>51205086
look at the OP
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>OMIGOD, Abaddon's Black Fortress is firing, we're screwed!
>Thank god, for some reason, the shield has been mysteriously repaired!

>Damn, we're beaten, they're too strong for us!
>Thank god, Celestine arrives, for some reason. And she brought some sisters she found in a bin somewhere. For some reason.

>The shields are down, this time we're super screwed, nooooooooooooo !
>Thank god, the Phalanx appears in the middle of the Black Fleet, for some reason, and doesn't get blown up, for some reason while managing to coordinate with the Space Wolves around, that, I suppose, must've been already in the middle of the Black Fleet to pull off that trick, or were waiting for the Phalanx. For some reason.

>Rah ! Abaddon and the Black Legion push us down the catacombs. We're dead meat. Let's make a glorious last stand.
>Wait a minute, that suspicious metal guy has an imperial army in his pocket, for some reason. That's awesome!

>Darn, I, Inquisitor Greyfax, could be saving Celestine if only it wasn't some kind of obvious mutant and if my warp powers worked. I mean, all psykers are dead, daemons are gone and such, that's too bad.
>But wait ! My warp powers are still working for some reason ! BECAUSE I WILL IT AND SO IS THE STORY AIOIHUBHZDHJZHJDSPOAJ9I.

>See Creed, you're super screwed now that I hold you in my Talon. I even have the time to taunt you. In fact, I intend to kill you with taunts. Didn't see that coming, right ? You never thought I was some comic book villain, but here I am. Let me explain to you my evil plans while we're at it...
>Thank god, Celestine saves Creed ! Because the Bringers of Despair were taking a break. Their syndicate managed to negociate a break, because Black Crusading is hard stuff.

>Well, you've managed to wound me before I could tell you my evil plans ! But rejoice as I tell you this before I retreat : I plan on nuking the planet pretty soon, you should all be evacuating!
>Whoa, thank you Abaddon, that's nice of you to save us all.
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>>51205151
Fancy new formation doesn't have a Fort slot though.
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>Let them escape the system, we've made super strong friendship bonds on the planet while I was goofing around.
>But, Lord Abaddon, I have found they carry some last minute super plot twist in their ship !
>WHUT ? LET'S RUN AFTER THE PLOT TWIST, QUICKLY!

>That's it fellow imperials. This time our necrons overlords aren't there to save us. I think we've sailed away from the last Deus Ex Machina and our end is upon us.
>Wait ! Eldars to the rescue, for some reason ! Whoa, that's really convenient. For the 42745687457487th time.

>That may be the worst fanfiction I've read in years.

Got it from B&C.
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i think the biggest decision with the castellan formation will be deciding what special rule to take the most advantage of.

I have obsec with coteaz, so its hatred and 1/3 respawning troops/

Would it be better to spam more troops at 1850? bring CC ( unfortunately theres no great cc troops or models really..)

I think if I went 1850 Id fit a culexus for anti psyk and deathstar, and figure out the best gravity delivery system while still trying to max melta/plasma scions and sisters.
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>>51204922
I guarantee that Ork Gargant mainly has big shootas.
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>>51205179
Everyone has ALWAYS thought Abaddon was a comic book villain, If the countless failures followed by "I'll get you next time Cadia, NEXT TIME" weren't enough to give it away then his hilarious look would do it.
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>>51204922
Holy fuck where is that Gargant from? That looks awesome.
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>>51205179
You forgot:

>Suddenly a wild Eldar webway portal appears and helps evacuate Imperial forces for some fucking reason because Eldar are not an arrogant and selfish race. They were the good guys all along!
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>>51205208
>No great CC

Angry Crusaders.gif

Also don't underestimate a blob of Guardsmen or Conscripts with a Priest and Hatred.
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Talon Strike Force

Pinion Battle Demi-Company

Captain (1) - 235pts
1 Chapter Master: Frag and Krak grenades,Orbital strike,Artificer armor,Jump pack,Power fist,Chain sword,Digital weapons,Swiftstrike and Murder

Tactical Squad (5) - 80pts
1 Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Boltgun
1 Tactical Marine: Meltagun,Bolt pistol
3 Tactical Marine: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Drop pod (1) - 35pts
1 Drop pod: Stormbolter

Tactical Squad (5) - 80pts
1 Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Boltgun
1 Tactical Marine: Meltagun,Bolt pistol
3 Tactical Marine: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Drop pod (1) - 35pts
1 Drop pod: Stormbolter

Tactical Squad (5) - 80pts
1 Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Boltgun
1 Tactical Marine: Meltagun,Bolt pistol
3 Tactical Marine: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Drop pod (1) - 35pts
1 Drop pod: Stormbolter

Assault Squad (9) - 126pts
1 Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Chain sword
8 Assault Marine: Bolt pistol and chainsword

Devastator Squad (5) - 135pts Armorium cherub
1 Devastator Sergeant: Signum,Bolt pistol,Boltgun
4 Space Marine: Missile launcher,Bolt pistol

Scout Squad (5) - 59pts
1 Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Boltgun
4 Scout: Sniper rifle,Bolt pistol

Shadowstrike Kill Team

Scout Squad (5) - 65pts Camo cloak
1 Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Boltgun
4 Scout: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Scout Squad (5) - 65pts Camo cloak
1 Scout Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Boltgun
4 Scout: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Vanguard Veteran Squad (5) - 145pts
1 Veteran Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Power weapon,JumpPack
3 Veteran: Bolt pistol,Power weapon,JumpPack
1 Veteran: Power weapon,Storm shield,JumpPack

Vanguard Veteran Squad (5) - 145pts
1 Veteran Sergeant: Power weapon,Chain sword,JumpPack
3 Veteran: Power weapon,Chain sword,JumpPack
1 Veteran: Power weapon,Storm shield,JumpPack

>cont.
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>FLGS doing Fall of Cadia events
>get hype
>look at rules
>Imperial vs Chaos only
>only have necrons[/spolier]
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>>51205285
Raptor Wing

Land Speeder Squadron (1) - 45pts
1 Land Speeder: Heavy bolter

Stormtalon Gunship (1) - 115pts
1 Stormtalon Gunship: Skyhammer missile launcher

Stormtalon Gunship (1) - 115pts
1 Stormtalon Gunship: Skyhammer missile launcher

Skyhammer Orbital Strike Force

Tactical Squad (5) - 85pts
1 Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Boltgun
1 Tactical Marine: Plasma gun,Bolt pistol
3 Tactical Marine: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Drop pod (1) - 35pts
1 Drop pod: Stormbolter

Tactical Squad (5) - 85pts
1 Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Boltgun
1 Tactical Marine: Plasma gun,Bolt pistol
3 Tactical Marine: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Drop pod (1) - 35pts
1 Drop pod: Stormbolter

Tactical Squad (5) - 85pts
1 Sergeant: Bolt pistol,Boltgun
1 Tactical Marine: Plasma gun,Bolt pistol
3 Tactical Marine: Boltgun,Bolt pistol

Drop pod (1) - 35pts
1 Drop pod: Stormbolter

Land Speeder Squadron (1) - 45pts
1 Land Speeder: Heavy bolter

>sorry for long comment. I cant save the image from the army builder

also please help, I don't know how to build good raven guard
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>>51205287
Go with Trazyn
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>>51205284
>tfw you get super lucky and your guardsmen with a commissar take out 3 termies while only losing 5 models
I still cant belive it, I will never forgot the look at that guys face
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>>51205263
The exception to Eldar being dicks to other races is when Chaos is being an actual threat. They probably know Cawl has the Macguffin because of the Shadowseer that has been talking to everyone and are saving him, saving the others is just a way to wave their arses at Abby.
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>>51205305
I asked and they made vague umming noises
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>>51204907
I enjoyed having Blight Grenades, so after switching them to regular CSMs, I gave one of the squads a Sorcerer with them.
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>>51205179
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Can someone explain the Hit and Run special rule to me? Does it simply mean you can move at the end of the Assault Phase? Or do you specifically need to assault/be assaulted that turn to move?
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Do orks have a default technology level that they will always reach after growing out their spores or do they always imitate local technology levels?
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Is that Triaros Armoured Conveyer ever going to turn up in plastic? Looks awesome, I want Cawl and a bunch of Myrmidons in it.

Also, I fight a lot of Chaos, Tau and Nids, and my Admech are struggling slightly. War Convocation should be up and running in a month or two, but I don't want to use that on the poor Nids. Would an Armoured Battlegroup Vanquisher commander and another Russ work OK? What should I make the troop Russ? I wanted a couple tanks anyway.
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>>51205356
you take an initiative test to break out of combat. then move 3d6".
you want to do this after the 2nd round of combat (your enemies turn) so you can shoot and charge on your turn while being safe from shooting during your opponents turn (although they can still be charged)
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Still no epub of gathering storm?
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I'm heading to my FLGS for my first Warhammer night since picking a box full of orks from a friend. Spent the past few nights reading up on the rules and putting together a list with what models I've got for some casual 750 point play.

Besides some Kill teams I played early last month where some guys at the store helped teach me the rules, this will be my first time playing 40k. Does this list look alright? Is there anything big I should consider changing up?
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Vanguard squad+Rad grenade Inquisitor+Saint Curias Autopurger+The Pater Radium (Think that was the name

Take a Toughness test on each model at -2 at I10, failure means wound for every fail.

Then take a Toughness test at -2 at I1, failure means D6 wounds with no armour saves.

Giving cancer to the enemies of the Omnisaah.
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Is it possible to buy the bits from Forge World kits like you can GW ones? I want just the front two Abeyant panels and the torso section of the FW Archmagos Draykavac model, and I'm not paying for the whole thing. Any good bitz sellers do FW in the UK?
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>>51205363
Generally, they imitate local and scale themselves to their enemies. If they conquer a world though, they'll quickly discover advanced space travel so they can go fight at others.

That also only really applies to Ork spores that spring up on their own. If it was part on existing Pro force, they'll happily use guns against a feudal world if they land there.
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>>51205380
Probably not. Its a nice thing thou that it was mentioned in Fall of Cadia. So they still use them in 40k and after IA14 we might get to use their rules. Wohoo!
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>>51205436
Or just vanguards and 4 xenos inquisitors with rad grenades: -5 to toughness and pretty much everything dies.
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>>51205424
everyone will love you for playing normal orks
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>>51205486
they not stacks.
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>>51205500
They do stack. Read the rules. Altough 4x inquisitors is bit of an overkill.
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>>51205238

What type of Ork Gargant has Big Shootas?

That's something you'd put on a Stompa or some other, weedier idol to Gork and Mork.

>>51205252

It's made by a company known as the "The Titan Manufactorum".
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>>51205500
>>51205524
As long as the Inquisitors are in different units when they charge, they stack.
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Five companies of the Imperial Fists had already departed upon the Crusade of Vengeance, unleashing the righteous fury of Dorn against the fortresses of Medrengard. Three others were scattered across the Segmentum Obscurus on missions of vital import. That left some thirty battle-brothers of the 1st Company, alongside the newly reconstituted and unblooded 3rd, to repel the assault on their beloved sanctum.


Can anyone explain to me why the Imperial Fists are besieging a daemon world in the Eye of Terror instead of aiding Cadia?
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is darksphere any good? someone mentioned it in a recent thread.
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>>51204492
Fluffy if nothing else.

Merge the three Marine squads into two or so.

No need for a second Lord. Use the points to get a second Havoc squad.

What's your game plan versus mass mech?

Scripts are good. You should get some good battery support though. Heralds Anarchic are an option. Run them on Discs solo if you want, you have a Landspeeder equivalent.

How's my list btw? Sorcerer is the Warlord. Planning to get a a game in tomorrow.

Good luck.
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>>51205556
Sigh. You are thinking them as literal grenades are you? No they are not grenades as rules think of them. They are just wargear. Might as well be named "Rad Pulse Generator" or something.
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>>51203471

The new art is so shit. Why does the artist love these fucking bright pastel backgrounds so much? Christ it looks like trash.
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so this is my 1000pt castellan wish i had room for plasma scions instead of melta but im alright with it
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>>51205197
Yea, so generally you'll want to just take aircraft of your own. Vendettas are good for this; they can fuck up other aircraft real good.

Put 3 of them in a slash formation and they have Ignores Cover, per the new DFtS rules, so fuck your jink save.
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>>51205595
and its also a passive buff for the unit that the inquisitor is in, only, so it wouldn't stack no matter how many inquisitors charged
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>>51205575
>Can anyone explain to me why the Imperial Fists are besieging a daemon world in the Eye of Terror instead of aiding Cadia?
the same reason you attack on two fronts and don't put everything in verdun anon
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>>51205595
>>51205610
They are grenades and they do stack.
They have grenade in the name.
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>>51205610
Can you screencap the rule for me that prevents it from stacking? This is not me taking piss at you but I'm actually curious now.
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>>51205595
No you fucking idiot, I know they aren't actual grenades but they have worked exactly the same before and after the FAQ.

A unit that charges with a model with rad grenades inside reduces the toughness of the unit they charged by 1 for that turn. So no matter how many Inquisitors are in that unit, it still only reduces by 1.

However, if 4 separate Inquisitors charge that unit, then that's 4 units charging in, each reducing it by 1.
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>make a huge issue of the astartes killing regular people
>two books later Garro literally admitted that he had killed people who had insulted him
Why is the Horus Heresy so bad written? Do they even read this shit?
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>>51205597
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>>51204377
i agree with your discontent over strength 3
>Attack sends the space marine flying off the table.
but holy fuck thats some orc wank
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So does the fall of Cadia say anything about who Elanor and Genevive are?

You know, the two gals following St. Celestia around.
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>>51205696
Slain twins who were the superior officers on cadia for the basillica.
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>>51205636
>>51205630
i guess it isnt at all clear, this is the text from 6th edition inquisition codex, and the text is identical for the IA book
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>>51205720
Twins Basil, TWINS.
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WHY DID SENPAI KELL HAD TO DIE?
HE DIED A HERO`S DEATH, BUT HE SHOULD BE ALIVE. FUCK YOU GEEDUBS
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>>51205657
Where in this it says that they do not stack in single unit but for some reason they stack in multiple units?

And no "because i think so". If it says somewhere that they dont stack, they dont. If it doesnt say that, they do.
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>>51205179
Guy dumb enough to wear a top knot is actually retarded, news at 11
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>>51205743
He died in the fluffiest and crunchiest way possible, protecting Creed.

Dying is part of being in the Guard, and he died especially well.
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Does some kind anon have a pdf of the (OoP) 5th edition Space Ork Codex? Can't see one in the MEGA.
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>>51205497
>>51205424
Good to know!

Once I finish painting all my minis and get a bit of experience with the game, this is the list I'm thinking of running for 1500 point games. How does this look?
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>>51205767
B-but he was such a good guy. Plus didnt Trazyn catch Creed in the end? I dont really know.


Also what the fuck am I supposed to do with his model now?
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>>51205753
Look at the rule above, "When a unit with rad grenades" it doesn't count how many models have them in the unit, it always only reduces by 1.

But if multiple units with rad grenades are involved, then the rule procs multiple times, because unlike the Vanguard toughness reduction rule, it doesn't say it doesn't say it doesn't stack.
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>>51204111

>thicc

yeah, ok
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>>51205179
is abaddon actually a good guy that's trying to sabotage Chaos from within, but the imperium is too inept to take advantage of it?
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>>51205789
death in fluff means nothing to the tabletop (unless you have no current rules then you might as well be perma-dead), same as being banished for daemons
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>>51205829
if she was on coke, she'd be thin, though.
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>>51205680

"Is that your swimsuit?"

>"Is that your overbite?"

classic movie
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>>51205622
But it's a suicide mission.
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>>51204483 here. I've drawn up my ideas for a 1k DEldar list to start out with, using the 1d4chan tactics.

How does it look?
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>>51205871
suddenly a lot of things about my adult life make sense now
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>>51205879
and?
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>>51205789
Trayzn saved Creed's life. Creed was still on Cadia when all the other coward Imperial forces had left in the transports, he would have been stuck on Cadai as it blew up and the shards dragged into the eye.

Sure it was to put him in his collection, but there is a possibility that Trayzn will release him down the line to use his TACTICAL GENIUS to fuck over another of Abbys plots.
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About how often do Space Marines fight Space Marines these days?
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>>51204111
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>>51205837
But Im a fluff nerd and I cant stand fielding him now. Might aswell call him Color Sergeant Matt Ward by now.
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>>51205905
A refreshingly low amount. However it does mean that in Chaos fluff, they butcher countless armies of Guard and in Guard fluff they get butchered by Chaos.

I think GW figured out that they can't have Chaos or SM suffering these major defeats against eachother all the time, their numbers can't support it.
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>>51205905
Absolutely non-stop my dude.

Have you ever heard of chaos marines?
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>>51205935
play a historical battle
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>>51204555
I don't think you comprehended why
>As vehicle models do not usually have bases, the normal rule of measuring distances to or from a base cannot be used. Instead, for distances involving a vehicle, measure to and from their hull, ignore gun barrels
was posted.
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>>51205899
>leaving the man who defended the world for 13 black crusades to die
Fucking hell, Im an IG fag but thats too far even for the Imperium
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Can anyone explain why sealing the Warp causes people to drop dead? The Pylons activating killed a lot of people.
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FoC Epub when?
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>>51205935
A game of 40k can take place in a vast range of time. Kell couldn't have been older than 60 and like all the other human characters, have only been there for a fraction of the total events.

Just fluff it as happening before Cadia falls.
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>>51205576
They're OK, go element games instead.
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>>51204087
Actually that's not proven, just what was told to Horus by the chaos gods to help sway his reason to kill the Emperor. And even then they were showing him one of the multiple realities that could have happened.
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>>51205969
Are you an idiot? Crusade wasn't alive for the 12th Black Crusade let alone the first Black Crusade that happened 10K years ago.

Creed only fought one single Black Crusade and it was the 13th. The fucking retardation.
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>>51206033
So was the not-13th Black Crusade just retconned? Because he definitely defended it against that.
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>>51205969
Nah son, he elected to stay to lead the Cadian 8th in defending the evacuation zone.

Shit was heroic as fuck and all took place AFTER he had lost an arm to Abby so he was bleeding out as he led his men.

Then Trayzn comes along and says his time was not over yet and pokeballs him.
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>>51206030
Why are you referencing Horus Rising when all of this was confirmed in Vengeful Spirit?

>>51206033
Creed wasn't alive*
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>>51205945
>>51205940
I was talking about Imperial Space Marines vs. Imperial Space Marines in the actual tabletop game, but that's cool too.
>>51205987
Because literally everything in the universe causes people to drop dead. A worker on Factory planet #29817541 eats a sandwich? Fifty people die. Guardsman #112456984 reloads his lasgun? He dies.
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>>51206056
What does that matter? You were dumb enough to think that Creed, a mortal man, has been leading the Cadians for 10K years.
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>>51205287
Well the eldar are there as well so it's not had to justify a few battles with them even if they don't have new rules, and orks are everywhere. Nids and Tau are the only ones you can't really have battles with and be consistent with the fluff.
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>>51206061
Well, that was a good way to go.
>tfw commander of your homebrewed regiment also lead his forces after losing an arm
People will say I copied Creed, wont they?
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>>51204433
But the Cadian 8th is completely gone. It's like if the Ultramarines all died, but there are still many successor chapters.
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>>51206098

Actually, Tyranids were somehow in the last Black Crusade campaign.

They were striking at Belis Corona at the same time as the Death Guard.
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So I'm trying to work on a space marines army with a guerrilla warfare feel with some heavy support but I'm still really new to this whole 40K thing.
Any advice?
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>>51205732
Imperial Agents says:
>During a turn in which a unit equipped with rad grenades launches an assault, or is assaulted, the enemy unit(s) suffer a -1 penalty to their Toughness until the end of the phase (this does affect the victims’ Instant Death threshold).

Seeing that the effect is per unit basis, it would seem even if there was 10 models with rad grenades in the unit, the toughness is lowered by 1. If it was per model basis, Legion Devastators would be OP.
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show me your demon princes
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>>51206136
Yes, which is why you have to split the inq up before you charge.
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>>51206074
>fell for the old recharge your powerpack with the campfire trick
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>>51205987
I thought the only people it killed were Psykers and Chaos guys with Daemonic bodyparts, who suddenly found themselves sans bodypart.
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>>51206133
>Urkanthos staggered away, talons raised to shield against the Canoness’ strike. An exultant Genevieve pursued, blade flashing. But in her zeal, the Canoness was deceived. The Daemon Prince was not cowed, but awaiting opportunity. As Genevieve struck again, Urkanthos ripped the blade from her grip and closed a taloned hand about her throat. Seeing her sister’s danger, Eleanor lunged at the beast, her frenzied flurry hacking deep into his armoured skin, and all but severing a tattered wing. It was not enough. Genevieve’s spine splintered under her captor’s unholy strength, her last act to headbutt the brute between his burning eyes. Loosing a desolate cry, Eleanor lunged with all her strength, the point of her sword lodging beside Urkanthos’ black heart. The Daemon Prince bellowed and smote her, lifeless, to the ground. Then he stalked away, the power sword still trapped within his flesh.

A daemon prince kills two Canonesses. Justfy this, /tg/.

If they were marine captains this wouldn't been written this way, Why does GW hate the Sisters?
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>>51206145
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>>51206161

Didn't mean to link the other post.
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>>51206152
Yup.
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>>51206161
they got better
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>>51206101
but how did he lose his arm?
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>>51206131
I guess I shouldn't have posted having only read summaries and wiki articles rather than the actual fluff, but how the hell did the nids get all the way to Obscurus on the other side of the galaxy?
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Does anyone know what exactly is in the "Genestealer Cults (Warhammer Live, December 16th, 2016)" box?
Do they just toss in the "4x Aberrants" sprue?
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>>51206186
Abaddon tore it off.
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>>51206161
And then Celestine resurrected them with snap of her fingers.

Also chaosfag T5 daemon prince almost losing agaist two S3 T3 bitches.
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>>51206211
I was talking about anon`s commander, but I appriciate the input.
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>>51206204
Leviathan is invading from beneath the galaxy. It's already in Solar and Obscurus.
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>>51206161
S3 humans dying fighting a daemon prince.

Why is this deemed dishonorable by everyone?
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>>51206214
>almost losing

Not really. Only the sword to the heart did some damage. Their other attacks did nothing.
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>>51206161
Seems totally fair for a demi god to win, and that's coming from a sisters player.

I can't remember where but I'm far more crossed about the living saint giving up her divinity to stop a hellbrute, which failed, only for the brute to be stoped by a thrown thunderhammer when the gloryhawks arived.
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>>51206161

Worth noting that Canonesses aren't the Gene Sons of the Emperor and lack their durability.

Also, since when did Urkanthos become a Daemon Prince?

Last I heard he was still just a Chaos Lord in the Black Legion supplement.
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>>51206249
Helbrecht killed a daemon prince with a combat knife....as a marine scout.
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>>51206267
correction, A living saint. not big C.
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>>51206273
Recently.

The slaughter of the Imperial fleets defending Cadia's space elevated him to Khornate daemonhood.
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>>51206264
Cutting off one limb is "nothing"?
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Thinking of running a flying circus list with magnus in, not sure if it'll be any good though.
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>>51206223
So he was dueling a Word Eaters champion, and he lost in the said duel. But after the berserker thought he is already dead the commander unloaded all the bolts in his pistol on point blank,killing the Chaos Marine. This boosted the morale of almost broken guardsmen and after a zealotous charge, they won but the commander died from blood loss.
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>>51206301
It's just wing. He doesn't need it. It's still attached him.
>>
Is there a fucking good IG list that its not a fuckin spam of wyvern and demons?
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>>51206298

>The slaughter of the Imperial fleets defending Cadia's space elevated him to Khornate daemonhood.

Is that a departure from the old lore then?

In the old lore, they mentioned a brilliant Imperial battlefleet commander that was noted for having defeated several Chaos fleets far larger than his own force, allowing the Imperium to maintain superiority in orbit and the space around Cadia.
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>>51206298
if only Spire were here
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>>51206323
>IG list
>demons
I dont really get you brah.
But melta vets in chimeras backed by a platoon blob and some artillery/tanks is always good.
>>
>In the muster field, Marshal Amalrich prepared another assault against the looming Vicanthrus. One had already failed, hurled back by the enfilading fire of the Baneblade’s Havoc escorts, but as Vicanthrus’ turret swung to bear on the aegis lines of the Cadian 8th, the Black Templars gathered themselves for another attempt.

>Vicanthrus’ turret locked into position, but didn’t fire. The super-heavy tank froze in position like some great metal beast locked in the throes of confusion. Then, at an unseen command, its weapons blazed to life. Not at the Black Templars of the Cruxis Crusade. Not at the Cadian 8th. But at its own compatriots. The warriors of the Black Legion never stood a chance. Vicanthrus’ sponson-mounted weaponry shredded the Havocs who moments before had preserved it from Amalrich’s fury. The turret swung about onto a new bearing, the heavy shells ripping apart an Alpha Legion Predator spearhead as if their hulls were forged of glass.

>For a heartbeat, neither side knew what to make of the sudden betrayal. None had marked the cloaked figure who ducked briefly from the shadow of a ruined bastion, a flood of silvery nanomachines flowing from his hand and into the crannies of Vicanthrus’ armour. That heartbeat was all Creed required. At his bellow, the heart of the 8th marched for the breached command bastion. The slaughtered Whiteshields and Battle Sisters told a gruesome tale, and one boding ill for those who had fought so hard for Cadia.

So mindshackle scarabs still mindcontrol people. Can anyone explain to me why they only cause fear on the TT?
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>GW rips off their own universe and has a yet another character have their arm ripped off by a saturday morning cartoon villain
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>>51206342

Psykana is one of the best formations to spam malefic daemonology
>>
Why are wyverns so cheap on the TT but so expensive irl?
>>
>>51206353
i might argue that all the villians need to be saturday morning cartoons otherwise nobody would want to play as them

but really i think it might just be that GW markets its products to pre-pubescent boys
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>>51206363
to make you buy more?
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which skitarii list do you mechs like?
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>>51206363
chimera hull plus mortars
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>>51206381
But they totally replaced my bby Basiliks. Is there even a reason to run basilisks right now?
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>>51206161
Justfy 1 Daemon Prince destroying Necrons army. 052.M40
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>>51206385
Or this
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>>51206327
Yeah.

He died.
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>>51206385
you can take crawl instead of a normal tech priest?

I think it looks good anon, im not sure you need 10 x 2 vanguard - if you could fit in a dragoon or two that would really help with your anti-mech
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>>51206283
A MARINE. Not a damn human.
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>>51206402
He was a a titan sized daemon prince in the shape of a worm with a warp portal for a head which continuously spews daemons.

Stat that.
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>>51206404
oh god you're making me choose between dragoons and peltasts?! ;-;

non neutron dunecrawlers are trash and you know it, what are you doing anon [/spoilers]
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>>51206404
I like the second one. Those dragoons and extra dunecrawlers are sexy af
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>>51206399
Anti-tank. Earthshaker gun carriages make basilisks obselete, not wyverns.
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>>51206449
Fucking Forge World. Im still gonna use normal basilisks like a good poorfag I am.
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>>51206404
i dont understand why anyone would take an ironstrider, its such garbage
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>>51206267
It's a salamanders short story and your remembering it very wrong.
She wasn't a saint she wasn't even a battle sister she was just a random girl.
Her giving up her grace does stop the entire invasion of a chaos warband as well btw.
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>>51206413
He can be replace any Tech Dominus in any formation that includes one. So Holy Requisitioner Cawl + 2 Breacher squads deepstriking with no scatter near objectives can cause some serious backline hurt.
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>>51206429
Barely a marine. A Marine lite.
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>>51206413
Yes you can. Cheese list: An almost invincible firebase who is death to all in CC and at range at 500pts when whole armies struggle to kill him. I need to get that guy.
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>>51206467
Do what I do, use Empire cannon carriages and stick earthshaker cannons on them. It looks fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine It looks stupid but I don't have any spare kidneys to sell.
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>>51206467
Fuck, I:>>51206511
Meant to reply to >>51206465
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>>51206511
you answered the wrong anon, anon, but yeah i have an old empire cannon carriage, and i plan to use it to make a maxim gun looking heavy bolter
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Epub of fall of cadia yet?
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>>51203471

Infiltratin yor base roflolcopteryx
>>51206550
>>51206550
>>51206550
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>>51206563
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>>51206563
>>
I downloaded the kobo app, how the hell do you find your downloaded epubs with it?
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>>51206698
contact a spiritual specialist
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>>51205165
I can't see it in any of the URLs
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>>51203513
Ok, shoot/ assault turn 1.
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I want Abaddon's new model to be a daemon prince.

It'd piss the shit out of the guys who wank off to him, and be silly but resoundingly meaningless to everyone else.
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>>51207501

Cunt's been jobbing for 10,000 years, he's so boring, a real credible threat would be nice
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>>51206440
how bout both
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>>51204871
Take blight grenades on your lord.
>>
So for the Mekboy Junka it has 3 pintle mounted weapons.

What's stopping me from putting those on the turret?
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>>51209448
For example.

Big barrel is something like the supa-skorcha or boom gun, the smaller is 3 big shoota or whatever barrels in a sort of triangle mount.
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>>51209859
and I forgot the picture
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>>51203731
>Maybe Orks were meant to be a ranged race?
BS 2
Orks are a shooting race
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>>51204298
Outflank.
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Anyone got the epub?
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