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1st for Tron master race.

2nd for Tron, the cancer killing modern.

>>51202720
Tron is shit and will always be shit on by burn

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>>51202759

>>51202791
Tron breaks the turn 3 rule too consistently to be allowed.

Make no mistake, turn 3 Karn is a game win. Also the reason true control decks will never exist.

>>51202821
>>Also the reason true control decks will never exist

If only wizards would print some form of countermagic... Oh wait.

>>51202881
If only they would print a viable, unconditional counterspell you mean.

>>51202949
>what is cryptic command
>what is cancell
>what is the newest aether revolt counterspell

But i guess it's better to cry instead of doing research.

>>51202970
those are all shit except for cryptic which comes too late

>>51202970
>Spot the bluehater baby

>>51202970
Cryptic is great, on turn 4. Not viable at all for stopping Tron.

Disallow is shit.
Cancel is shit.

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>>51202970
Better suggestions would be Ceremonious Rejection or Commandeer.

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>>51202655
>How did all you guys do?
I won it with UW Jerks

2-1 RGTron
2-1 AdNauseam
2-0 Podless

low turnout but still worth $24 in store cred

You anti-Tron weenies need to stop shitting up the general.

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>>51203381
Back from whence ye came heathen.

>>51203425
Knave! Slander!

>Rishardan Port is still 100 dollars
Fuck off you fucking likes you know damn well that shit is barely worth half that

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Lads, just packed this.
What do

>>51203870
If dubs you cum on it and post pictures.

GET

>>51203870
You throw it in the fucking trash cause it's not red. Honestly I'd put it on ebay right now for 40 dollars

>>51203921
Oh you.

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Is he, dare I say it, our guy?

>>51203870
you know what you have to do, friend

>>51203948
If you throw it on right now for 40 dollars you might even get 60, you're not gonna get a better price for it, and if you disagree you're wrong, edh memes never go up once they peak

>>51203870
Is that modern legal? Why haven't I heard about it?

>>51204035
It's conspiracy you autistic cuck

>>51203988
It's played in Legacy you mong

>>51203306
that's spicy reversal

>people actually play "modern"
Literally why? Particularly after this banlist, Modern seems like a format for people too serious for standard, but too dumb/poor to play legacy.

>>51204072
>implying death and taxes has time to go tutoring
>implying aluren isn't going to stay strictly bug and never splash white cause it's not worth it.
Autism desu, it's barely played in legacy

>>51202778
Funny how a 50/50 matchup is the one that shits on it instead of Infect.

>>51202821
>Make no mistake, turn 3 Karn is a game win.
How do you remember to breathe?

>>51204180
>Tron is 50/50 with burn
Lol what? Is this the most autistic post of the year?

>>51204210
Land a 4-of Wurmcoil t3, win. Don't, lose, that's basically it. Nature's Claims off the side help, Pyroclasm slows the clock by a lot.

>>51204156
Legacy is very different. Why do you care what we do since you clearly don't play any of the formats you just mentioned

>>51204226
>implying you land an engine turn 3 50% of games
FUGGING ebin

>>51204244
What other baseless accusations can you scry from that one post?

Universally, modern fags are awful to be around, and inflate the prices of many fun things, just in the hopes they could be modern viable. For example, why in god's green gravy is Phyrexian Obliterator so expensive? Literally no one plays it in anything remotely competitive.

>>51204312
>why in god's green gravy is Phyrexian Obliterator so expensive?
Keep showing how ignorant you are. That card has nothing to do with modern. You're an idiot

>>51204335
It has nothing to do with any format, yet it's $30 on hype alone.

>>51204303
t3 Karning a landlight start is also pretty strong, t4 ulamog wins as well.

Tron to exile
W, sorcery
Exile target tapped permanent. That permanent's controller may draw a card.

>>51204453
Come on anon, at least try.

Truncated Tron
1W, Enchantment
If a land would tap for more than one mana, it instead add that much mana to your mana pool.

>>51204362
Yeah, kill yourself.

>>51204453
>>51204505
ITT
>we design delusional stuff

Anyone play that Esper Narset meme deck here? It looks pretty interesting and I might build into it

>>51204505
Too much of a silver bullet. The point is to design general playable cards that also interact with Tron or what Tron does.

Here's one:

Counter Tron
UU instant
Counter target spell.

>>51203964
Not even close.

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>>51203381
This, it's been embarrassing to read the last two ones.

Tron Drain
1uu instant
Counter target noncreature spell. At the beginning of your next main phase, add x to your mana pool, where x equals the CMC of the countered spell.

>>51204599
>>51204685

You know those spells already exist?

Also, why so mad?

Fork Tron
Rr instant
Copy target spell, or activated ability. You may choose new targets for the copy.

>>51204685
>>51204599
>>51204505
>>51204453

>implying you won't beat this

Surveil Blasphemy
1W
Enchantment
When Surveil Blasphemy enters the battlefield, name a word, then flip all permanents with the chosen word in their name face down. Those permanents are 2/2 creatures.
>caught between saying exile all but it's too strong
Whenever a permanent enters the battlefield, if it has the chosen word in its name, exile it.

Is it a bankable offense to shit up threads with your retarded oc?

>>51204780
>name island
>pyroclasm
Seems god.

Tronvine
2gg creature elemental
4/3
Whenever an opponent plays a non-basic land, if they control three or more, you may return tronvine from your graveyard to the battlefield.

Golgari grave tron
1gg
Creature, 2/2
Dredge 3
When ~ enters the battlefield, destroy target non-basic land, artifact, or enchantment.

>>51206220
>>51205541
Tron Nauseam
3BB Instant

Reveal the top card of your library and put that card into your hand. You lose life equal to its converted mana cost. You may repeat this process any number of times.

Seems like a card that would be good at beating tron.

>>51205395

I didn't think about basic lands

it would probably need to say "if it isn't a basic land" or "name a word other than a basic land type"

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>>51204453
>>51204685
>>51204749
>>51205541
>>51206220
>>51206284

>>51206605
Let the autist sperg.

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Does that make Eggs viable again?

>>51205541
>>51206220
>>51206284
I may be a huge faggot, but I laughed at these.

Eidolon of the Tron Revel
{R}{R}

Whenever a non- basic land enters the battlefield, ~~deals 2 damage to that lands controller.
2/2

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Could a card like this fix Modern?

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>>51206768
Just play Zo-Zu.

>>51206909
No. It would suck

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The tron list ive been playing and tweaking for 7 or 8 months

4 tower
4 mine
4 powerplant
1 cavern of souls
3 eldrazi temple
1 forest
1 swamp
1 wastes

4 ancient stirrings
2 not of this world
2 warping wail
2 thoughtsieze
2 inquasition of kozalek
2 all is dust

4 expidition maps
4 chromatic sphere
4 chromatic star

2 karn
2 ugin the spirit dragon

4 thought not seer
4 reality smasher
2 ulamog the ceaseless hunger
1 emrakul the promised end

Overall im pretty happy with this and it does fairly well but im open to suggestions on how to streamline it. Not of this world is a new addition and has been doing great, but im not convinced warping wail is worth the slot.

>>51207169
>wastes

For what purpose?

All your urza lands tap for colorless.

>>51207169
Looks like shit. You don't want to run discard. Oblivion stone is better than all is dust. Not of this world isn't very good.

Tron as a deck is super solved. Just look up a list and build that

>>51207339
Bloodmoon mostly and just to search up basics off of path and ghost quarter

>>51207342
Id have to disagree with you there. Hand disruption plus stringing together thoughtnot and karn really makes for a powerfull way to throw the opponet off his gameplan. Plus its unexpected for tron. Im not trying to build the same old list but have one of my own.

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>>51206909
Cards like these might make control viable in modern.

>>51207342
Also not of this world is great. Protects ugin from path or and the like for free and 7 mana isnt a big deal for tron in any case

>>51207578
Meant to say ulamog not ugin sorry

>>51207541
All you're going to accomplish is waste money on cards and entry fees.
You can play around with like 4 or 5 cards in a list, but what you're doing is purposely shooting yourself in the foot.

>>51207568
Stop posting custom cards in a modern general.

>>51207611
Again id have to disagree. I usually go 3 and 1 and ive had several 4 and 0's at weekly fnm and my meta is huge so its a pretty diverse field. Im not trying to go pro or anything, just optimize my deck in the frame of disruption and the ability to play slow if need be

>>51207541
>I'm a special snowflake
Oh I see. I'll leave you to your own then

>>51207822
Fair enough. Thanks for the advice

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These are the results of the first 2 days of modern leagues since the bannings went into effect.
Thoughts? Would you be happy if this was the new modern meta?

Gilded tron
>>51209391
Three Tron wins is three too many.

>>51209391
A disturbing lack of fast decks. Just ad nauseam, affinity, and amulet bloom (which I doubt is consistent enough).

>>51209391
The bans haven't been put in effect yet though

>>51209658
They were put into effect online a couple of days ago

>>51209669
I did not know they were earlier online. Interesting

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>>51209658
They have
here's my delver list, those outlines mean the probes aren't legal and I can't enter events with the deck until I remove them

>>51209697
Normally they aren't, but with the early bans they put them into effect earlier than paper MTG for some reason.

>>51209703
oh wow

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One a scale of one to fucking mullered, how is dredge handling the bans? It seems relatively ok with subbing thug lyfe for GGT but I'm not 100% certain yet.

>>51209862
It'll be tier two at worse

>>51209391
I wonder how the Affinity player 5-0d with such a shit list but then I remembered since 2016 January Modern is about matchup lottery and the die roll, sprinkled with free wins via Blood Moon+Chalice.

>>51209391
I guess it's fine? I dunno, I'd like to see a burn list in there somewhere, but it's fine or whatever.

>>51209720

It's so people can test the "new" meta

>>51209963
Stay salty

I went 3-1 with budget affinity, deck is worth about $50 and its just cranial plating, bolt, galv blast and a bunch of cheap artifacts.

I lost against bant eldrazi and beat a starter deck, jund and jeskai delver, somehow

>>51210174

Spring another 15 bucks into it and pick up master of etheriums (and springleaf drums if you don't have them)

>>51210070
What makes you think I'm salty?

did you guys see the landfall deck jeff hoogland played on stream recently? it was gas desu

>>51210759
looked real good. Rallier seems excellent

>>51210759
I've been playing it all week. It's fucking dank.
I was skeptical because he seemed to get lucky and the sultai deck was garbage.
I think tireless tracker deserves some sideboard slots against grindy decks

>>51211894

tireless tracker sounds sweet in the sideboard, and yeah LOL that sultai deck was trash. did you make any changes to the 75 he played? it seemed like you'd want more ghor-clan rampagers

>>51202655
woah, I'm good friends with this guy, strange seeing his picture on /tg/.

one thing i was thinking about, in the aggro decks that played probe (aside from infect) could you slide in gut shot in the place of probe? seems like it'd still be fine honestly

>>51211942
I haven't yet. If I was to, I might cut one KotR
I barely ever see rampager so I think I would want more of them. Regardless, the card is nuts in this deck when your guys already have around 7-9 power on turn 3-4.
I really like that the deck can hang with the longer games too because goyf and Knight both get fuckhuge.
Seal, rallier, seal is funny too

>>51212032
I doubt it, drawing a card is generally a lot better than doing 1 damage.

>>51212056

this is true, but it still fills up the yard for things like become immense and it still enables your death's shadows. zooicide is the only deck i can see where slotting in gut shot in the probe spot is probably okay

>>51203964
No, but he's very entertaining

>>51203964
he's a slimy jew but at least he's a funny jew

>>>51212873

So basically he's everything /tg/ wants?

>>51212896
Wow. Hilarious.

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Which is better to run in Dredge? I'm torn between either and they both have pros and cons and I'm too retarded to decide which to use

>>51204174
late, but
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/542209
literally top 8'd the last legacy grand prix with multiple copies in the main deck
2 main is standard in d&t now

>>51213180
Scourge beats ugin and counterspells

>>51209703
The deck isn't dead, this list won an open last june when nahiri jeskai was the new hotness. If the meta slows down at all then you can play a version like this with no pyromancers.

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/436557

>>51213662
I didn't mean to say it was, I just haven't updated my list and used it as an example of the bans being on MTGO

>>51213698
ah ok
yeah it's really irritating that they go into effect early, I wanted to give copter a proper send-off in standard but I guess not

>>51213207
Yep, just for the value chain with flickerwisp alone.

Which mechanized production and the improvise draw card make tezzerator finally viable? The draw being at instant speed might be good enough, with just sword and foundry and 3 mana you can get a thopter, gain a life and draw 3

>tfw we'll never get dark depths

>>51215604
>wanting a legacy deck in modern.
You don't want that.

>>51215651
I guess into the north makes it insane
I just want something cool to play in this format

>>51215661
no more land based decks in modern until wasteland reprint

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So now that fatal push is a thing and git probe is banned, will infect still be a tier one deck?

I predict that matchups against jund and grixix/any black control will be even shittier.

>>51215824
obviously the deck will be worse but it will still be the best unfair deck
4 blossoming defense is gonna give jund a huge headache

>>51202655

Need some advice on this list from fellow greenbros.
>not running the primetime wolfrun package
Yeah well I came here to ride the genezus wave, not untap with timmytitan.

>>51215961
what deck are you playing? if you're casting prime time you can probably do way more busted things than grab kessig wolf run

>>51215961
>>51216027

I forgot the list boys :(

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/15-01-17-green-devo/

>>51216027
Most busted thing the deck can do is turn 2 kiora+garruk but that doesn't happen all too often. Mostly just primal loopin or waves, very fun regardless but I'm sure the list needs some tweaks.

>>51215247

Mechanized production will do nothing for thopter sword. It's a win more card or maybe side board if you have lots of bridge or turbofog in your meta

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>>51216185
shaun maclaren has been playung mono green devotion on his stream recently and doing well with it

>>51204174
>implying death and taxes has time to go tutoring
Dude like, that's exactly what Stoneforge Mystic does.

>>51216243
I based it off his list a lot
http://www.starcitygames.com/article/34246_Video-Mono-Green-Devotion-In-Modern.html
Gonna trim the jank and put back some birds and whatnot, uncertain if satyr is the way to go or if I should just fold and run smokingtree emissary.
The bees and nissa can probably go, same as courser, idk maybe I'll add titan.

>>51203348
post list

>>51209391
That WUBR Humans deck looks great. It's Jeskai humans with a splash for Dark Confidant.

>>51217107
Yeah. I think Mardu Woe-Reaper is a weird choice given it's the only warrior in the deck though
The spirit deck with Tallowisp and 7 shoals is pretty spicy too

>>51209391
A storm deck actually went 5-0 right after the ban of probe. Interesting.

>>51217568
Dodging bad match ups has a way bigger impact than probe, which is what any storm list really needs to do well in modern.

alright, this hasn't been discussed yet here i don't think, but do you guys think that one day frontier could push modern out of relevance? or is frontier just another meme

>>51203964
ofcourse he is

>>51217702
It depends entirely on the sets introduced to standard later on, but right now it's really shit and I don't see it lasting very long. Not outside japan at least.

Is Sudden Death worth runnning even as a Sideboard VS infect?

>>51218017
Not really, what deck are you playing?

>>51218023
Working on Grixis discard/mill, with Isochron Scepter + Surgical/Extirpate so my opponent can play basic lands only.

It's obviously not tier 1 deck, but trying to make it work.

I'm bored of my Tron

>>51218034
Just run sudden shock if you're in red already

>>51218041
Forgot that even existed, thanks.

>>51218017
>>51218034

Since I'm working on this deck and it requires me to find couple of pieces to actually make my opponents life miserable.

Is it worth running Telling Time instead of Serum Visions?

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Made a tron deck, should I buy it? about need about 150USD of the cards

http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/shogg-tron/

>>51217727
By popular demand, SCG are running frontier side events at their events now.

>>51218156
Bump.

Also looking for suggestions with spells that'll help me find my mill pieces.

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So huh ... with everyone siding out their shit for dredge matchups, since there will be less people playing it ... do you think it's the perfect time to finally play Dredgevine?

>>51206909
Nothing can fix Modern because WotC doesn't want to do the things that could "fix" it from our perspective.

>>51219971
... Shove a list in my face please.

>>51220045
They're too busy trying to ban top-meta decks into oblivion and innovate by printing better creatures than anything else.

Glad I quit when they banned Splinter Twin. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. I loved that deck, like a man loves a woman.

>inb4 cancer

>>51220123
I feel you man, the Twin MU was what kept playing Tron interesting week after week, it was like fencing.

>>51206745
I really doubt it. Second Sunrise was what made the deck run, not the ability to search out artifacts.

Faith's Reward isn't good enough, it's too slow for the format.

>>51220069
There are multiple versions. I prefer the blue versions because they are more explosive ( people seriously underestimate what Hedron Crab does ) but I can see arguments for the red version.

http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/developing-competitive-modern/648449-dredgevine

I suggest reading this. The deck is ultra fun to play and it's often too late before people realize that you're playing dredgevine, because when they see your turn 1 they're laughing at you. They laugh a bit less when you recur three Vengevines and swing for 12.

>>51213180
>>51213230
This. And it adds 4 power to the board.

>>51220180
Not that anon, but holy hell that deck looks fun as fuck.

>>51213180
Honestly, I'd put one of each.

Is Zoo still going to be viable now that Push and Yahenni's Expertise exist?

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Does this seem like a good sideboard for the modern meta?

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Can I get away with this manabase in Naya burn?

>>51220999
Zoo was never really viable

>>51220999
Well they got a 4/3 for 1G and bushwacker BTE was already a thing so maybe?

>>51220999
>>51222494

I'm thinking hidden herbalists and burning tree emissary

t1 land nacatl
t2 draw emissary
fetch land
hidden herbalists, emissary, emissary, bushwhacker

15 damage t2? seems okay, and totally doable with effectively 8 copies of emissary just makes you that much more likely to get the 2+ emissary gas draw

>>51222558
Yeah I don't see why not, no counter makes it to the party if you're on the play and spot removal doesn't prevent etb triggers.

>>51222581

dies to pyroclasm but then they're at 5-8 life, you still have a nacatl, and then they're close to bolt range

guaranteed you're running atarkas command too, which is just more gas

>>51222617
Good thing no one besides Tron runs Pyroclasm and it should be a very favored matchup if you have a fast hand and there's no Wurmcoil.

>>51222634

Yeah, and it's not like they're going to have chalice on 2. Deck loses to trinisphere but they don't have the fast mana for that (thanks, modern!) And without GY hate you probably don't like dredge because you aren't cool with trading with free reanimators

But hey, might be a good deck, would just have to see how it draws out overall

>>51221582
You'll lose some percentage points for not using arid mesas to be able to fetch basics and not shock yourself for untapped mana when you need to, but it should be fine aside from that.

>>51220123
>but you could just tap out and lose turn 3 xddddd
>implying this doesn't happen with every fucking deck.

Okay, I'm gonna go for a grixis expertise control deck. Is Baral's expertise just not good enough to play? Or can I add fuse cards and ancestral visions and make it work?

>>51222822
Awesome, thanks anon. I'll eventually get arid mesa, but I want to get playing asap

>>51223073
>yahenni's expertise
>turn the tarmogoyf
>burn the kalitas
>hit the dark confidant
It sounds really nice, but it's 2 cards for a damnation effect, I'd rather just play damnation. But it does have other applications

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How pimp are FBB Blitzschlag?

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c'mon guise, post pretty cards you wish you had

>>51224377
Most of us just purchase cards we want

Newfag here. Is there a single deck that I can run with a simple and cheap landbase? I currently own a shitty 8whack goblin deck that can work with simple mountains and I want to play with something else, especially black. I don't meant a highly, tourney winning deck, just something to have fun that ain't complete shit.

>>51224866
Ad Nauseam is built with scrylands and the deck overall is cheap, so I'd say this is pretty much the deck for you?

You can also run Fish, which is the same as goblins except it's blue and with merfolks. The deck is a bit more controlly too.

>tron versus jeskai control
>mull to 4
>still beat jeskai control
Why do people play blue in modern still?

>>51225295
Fish has no control elements. It runs a couple vapor snag and may even unified will in the side

>>51225403
Because we all hope one day mouth breathers like you will move onto a different deck

>>51225403
>Infect vs tron
>mull to 4
>still win against tron
Why do people play tron in modern still?

>>51225655
>skred vs infect
>mull to 4 and still win
When will people stop playing creature-aggro?

Followed by

>blue decks vs skred

>>51225821
>merfolk vs skred
>mull to 4 and still win
Why do people still play shit-brews?

>>51225821
Skred doesn't care about blue decks. It's bad matchups are combo

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>>51225295
How about a deck with this guy? I want to use him since a friend gifted me three but I don't know how to support it beyond playing gravecrawler, zulaport cutthroat and reassembling skeletons. well, and stuff like doom blade and dismember. Can you anons throw me a bone? I just lack knowledge in general to build my own deck

>>51226094
abzan aristocrats is a fun deck that might be a bit more viable with dredge being knocked down.

>>51224675
this one is unavailable here :^(

>>51225403
I legitimately don't know why anyone would play control in the meta of turn three Karn but no good counter spells.

>>51221582
as someone whos played burn extensively, it's better to just play mountains instead of windswept heaths. the amount of damage you take off fetch + shocking yourself is too high, especially in a format like modern.

>>51226003
Skred is freelo for combo-control (usually blue)
Any deck with Remand actually, basically the bee's nuts when they have to close the game with planeswalkers and dragons. Remand sucks so much right now but everytime I see Skred it reminds me why I play that card.

>>51225997
Merfolk doesn't count since it's secretly a green deck.

I want to try and make a viable deck out of using the layer system as removal. If you drop a creature's power to 0 and switch its P/T, it dies. The weird part? It doesn't matter if you switch its P/T first, it'll still die. I turn your 3/1 into a 1/3, then drop its power by 1, killing it. If there's a repeatable source of switching that isn't on a shit card, and decent cards that drop power, we've got our removal.

>>51226241
Wew lad

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>>51223351
About as pimp as the death spiral worm

>>51226385
If you play a garbage version of Skred that runs mindstone and dragons perhaps

>>51226094
Abzan Gravestorm is a deck just waiting to be busted open. Combo kills on turn 4, gains enough life to hold off Burn, can recycle/tutor dudes that blow up artifacts, can get the beats in before finishing with Blood Artists. You can even run Teeg. It's like the Podless Pod decks, but with a different gameplan.

>>51223351
Quite pimp desu

>>51226436
List?

>>51226408
>>51226408
Even without stormbreath or mindstones the point still stands, having a remand and a cryptic in hand is good game for the Skred player. Also interested to see why you'd cut mindstone (unless you run coldheart), what'd you replace it with? Simians?

>>51226436
Seconding >>51226898

>>51206745
why would you even want eggs to be around?

Alright, so, I've got a 10/10 spice brew in the works. You know those creatures from Innistrad that used your graveyard? Namely Ghoultree, Boneyard Wurm, and Skaab Ruinator?

Those.

With creatures that have cycling.

And cheap protection like Spell Pierce/Mana Leak.

>>51227119
BECAUSE A SQUARE EGG WOULDN'T BE GOOD FOR THE CHICKEN NOW WOULD IT

XXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>51227288
Wow. I bet nobody ever tried this ever

>>51226950
are you talking specifically about combo control? because regular blue control can't play anything big enough to kill skred in the two turns you buy with remand and cryptic

>>51227301
Kek

>>51227424
Nobody tried it with Living End until Travis "1488" Woo tried it. At which point everyone turned around and declared that Modern was, once again, a solved format.

>>51226950
You don't need ramp if you don't play stupid Timmy wincons.

>>51227449
Living end is kitchen table tier and Travis woo is a retard

>>51227484
But backing up a 2 mana 4/4 that gets bigger with Spell Pierce is just kind of good. It's just a shame that Fulminator Mage would be perfect for the deck but I'm not spending that much money on something that should be an uncommon.

>>51204174
you are seriously retarded

>>51203306

>tfw when you play Commandeer in U Tron

>>51227484
>Living end is kitchen table tier and Travis woo is a retard

Well, yes, Woo is a retard spouting "deep and meaningful" horseshit but I'd hardly call Living End retarded too. Its at least somewhat functional, if not more a solitaire deck than burn.

What's the deal with Travis Woo

Did he go off the deep end

t. New player

>>51228059
Said a bunch of weird things about Jews and the Holocaust

>>51228059

He's always been a bit fruit of the loom but he said some shit on a channelfireball video about hitler being misunderstood and so on and they dropped him like a sack of hot shit.

Now he does some "life coaching" bullshit and magic on the side.

>>51228205
The joke is that Hitler's motives and what he actually did are grossly misunderstood. There are physical impossibilities that you can't question.

>>51228237

Alright Travis go back to coaching.

>>51228237
Woah there buddy, I think you want the legacy thread, Invoke Prejudice isn't legal in modern

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>>51228425
I really like this post.

>>51228205
>>51228146
>he said some shit on a channelfireball video about hitler being misunderstood

Is this video still up? I wanna watch this

>>51228771

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6GeBhSNyfw

If there's a Grixis deck that's "Blue Jund" , is there any deck that's "Blue Abzan"?

>>51230301

what do you mean? a jace deck that plays lingering souls?

>>51230441
not necessarily a Jace deck but I suppose an Esper deck full of value cards that grinds out like Abzan

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>>51230643
If only Recoil was modern legal.

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Modern aristocrats be looking dank with fatal push coming out. Things are going to be exciting.

>>51230753
god damn that card seems fantastic

I wish Baleful strix was allowed in Modern

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>>51216483
here u go senpai

i'd take this to a GP as-is, but your mileage may vary.

>>51231438
what do you name with Cavern usually?

POST DELVER LISTS


http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/14-01-17-jRg-grixis-delver/

>>51231471
Ape

>>51231471
generally spirit so i can get the quellers through with vial up for more instant-speed bullshitting.
Human, horror and eldrazi have all come up, though. ti's not set in stone.

>>51231471

This would be a good thread starter question

Knight

>>51231823
Woah that's spicy

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competitive post for a competitive thread

whats your Elo?

http://www.mtgeloproject.net/

you DO play competitively, right?

>1536 over 2 GPs
lost my ass in Charlotte, made up for it and then some in Louisville.

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>>51231865
>>51231575

>>51231676
>Knight
deck list?

>>51210174
What's your landbase look like? Or the whole list if you can post it

>>51231947
Haven't played in any big events yet but I'm going to GP Vancouver in a month.

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>>51235038
So how competitive is zoo? It's really fun, but should I switch to burn if I want to actually win?

>>51231949
How do you feel about Gnarlwood Dryad in Rug?

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>>51233918

be careful it's pretty spicy

>>51236786
I don't think it's worth it. He'd really only replace delver and death touch isn't that great in modern

>>51226094
use a meme deck
forbidden orchards to give them tokens
illness in the ranks to kill said tokens
haunted phantasm to give your opponent 5 1/1 tokens and you a 4/6 unblockable
mercy killing to kill your opponents shit and give them more tokens that die and heal you

>>51231947
MTG has ELO now? Cool.

So, if I want to run Delver but too poor for Tiago, can I just replace Thought Scour with Sleight of Hand or is there a better cantrip available?

>>51240762
Don't bother with delver if you can't afford snaps, he's the best card in the deck by far and you're going to lose matches you should easily win.

>>51240762
Seconding this>>51240812

So there's
>UR
>Grixis
>Jeskai
>Temur

How important is bolt to Delver lists really?

>>51240812
>>51241036
Welp, back to Standard then.

>>51241186
You misunderstand, delver is the supplement to bolt, not the other way around.

>>51241186
Bolt is the fucking greatest card in magic. It has so many uses and is bad ass. It's vital you play bolt in every deck ever

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>>51203964
I love Rudy. I have a feeling he orchestrated his recent "hack" to receive a ton of publicity, He is a magnificent bastard and I wouldn't put it past him...or blame him for that matter.

>>51241401

I feel like delver would be good with Bob in it
>both die to push
but what's the point?

>>51241216

how about xmage

>>51241785
>you will never have good reasonably coated counter magic in modern
>modern will always be midrange the gathering
Why even live?

>>51241799
I mostly use Cockatrice for testing new decks before buying them IRL, the visceral satisfaction of turning cardboard sideways can't be replaced by double clicking.

>>51203964
To me he's the manifestation of everything I hate about Magic and yet I find him immensely entertaining. I basically feel the same way about him and 4chan

Are mill decks viable these days?

>>51241817
There's always stubborn denial.

Just run goyf and mandrills and play RUG

>>51242872
No. But the regular UB mill deck now and then 5-0s a league.

Any lantern players willing to post their list?

I'm considering building the deck but I'm a bit confused at some lists not running glint nest crane and some being BG instead of Sultai. Also some lists running a pyrite spellbomb for a damage based win con as opposed to straight mill.

I've been playtesting Cheerios with Sram. I feel like if they deck is good enough to be played it will probably get banned for the same reason Eggs was. It takes a long fucking time to go off, and it takes even longer if you have to do Monastery Mentor triggers. People who know what they are doing will make it reasonable, but the people who don't will eat up a shit ton of clock and not even go off.

who else is thinking about a deck with 8 ensoul artifact?

>>51245097
Maybe in Frontier. I think you will just get 2 for 1'd in Modern.

>>51245156
My meta has nearly no path running around right now

>>51245225
How many people are playing black decks that will pick up push?

Taking turns seems poised to become the blue tempo deck in 2017.

>>51245439
God I hope not

>>51245439
wew lad

>>51245439
nice try cuck, we all know the best blue tempo deck will still be delver

How many IoK should i buy if I just want to get them as staples in case? 3 or 4? Also og art or headbutt

is Eldritch Evolution good enough for Modern?

>>51246479
some people who play kiki chord play it, but most people came to the consensus that evolution is trash in that deck

>>51246473
get four

t. jund player

>>51246534
maybe it could be used as a ramp spell in a stompy deck as opposed to a bullet-finder in a creature toolbox?

I was thinking maybe a GW Eldrazi Stompy

>T1 Thoughtseize
>T2 Smugger's Copter
>T3 Lingering Souls
How's my curve?

>>51247267
You left out the
>T4 Lose the game
on purpose, right?

I haven't played my modern junk in over a year now, how does this creature lineup look?

>4 Goyf
>3 Bob
>3 Finks
>2 Scooze
>2 Rhino

Bob and Finks mainboard seems ideal if everyone (myself included) is running Pushes. Push lowers the average CMC and reduces Bob's drawback, and the increased spot removal makes card advantage considerably better. Finks can buy back some of the life loss, as well as providing 2 bodies for 1 card which seems like it would match up well vs Push. I haven't played Abzan since SoI, and it seems like Flayer won't be as good going into the post-ban AER meta. Thoughts?

>>51247357
Good against GBx, seems pretty bad elsewhere. Copter is a lot worse in formats with Lightning Bolt and Abrupt Decay.

>>51247414
your abzan list is really out of date, people are playing flayer and bauble now but i cant say if thats better or not

>>51247548
That isn't my current list. I haven't played the deck since Flayer was printed. That's what I'm proposing for the new format. On paper, Flayer does not look as powerful with Push in the meta.

>>51247548
>Your list is out of date lol
>But I don't know if new version is worthwhile lmao
People like you are what's wrong with this game.

>>51247666
Rhino isn't a very good 4 drop anymore, not that 4 drops were ever very good. Kalitas does his job but better. Finks is probably a good maindeck meta call for fatal push, but bob isnt. Abzan has always ran too many 3cmc spells to make him work. Either play Jund or noble hierarch.

>tfw infect is dead

>>51250159
nice meme, infect is still reasonable

>>51250821
no but UR Agrro and Titi Ascension sure are

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Would a card like this help to slow down aggro and make control stronger?

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@51251209
take it to the oc thread, you'll get no (you)'s here

>>51251209
Yeah cuz I just want to give my opponent a t2 rhino/tasiger and then have them fatal push my shitty wall

If I want to play combo in modern should I build Bubble Hulk, Grishoalbrand, Ad Nauseam, Copycat, or something else?

My shop meta is mostly Grixis Delver, Jeskai Nahiri, and GBx, but I do plan on taking it to GPTs & any events held nearby

Oh and I guess there's Kiki Chord

And Abzan Company

Is there a streamer worse at the game than saffronolive?

>>51255838
Any of the girl streamers, tbqh, except the qt that used to play Legacy Lands.

>>51256119
*all of the

>>51255838
Maybe not, but I do love Against the Odds

what is infect using instead of probe?

>>51253911
Valakut Breach

>>51256493
Gutshot

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>>51244248
>as opposed to straight mill.
Mill isn't the win con for lantern. The win con is sadistically removing your opponents ability to play the game to force them to scoop.

@51251209
No, but a card like this would.

>>51258049
>mill isn't the win con
assuming they don't scoop when the lock comes down you win by milling them eventually while controlling the draws.

>>51258104
My bad. Mill isn't the primary win con.

>>51253150
>using it against midrange
>ever
Why am I not surprised, /tg/ is still bad at magic.

>>51253911
Combo in general doesn't really have a great matchup against any of those decks. Exception includes >>51256585. In terms of the best combo deck, it would be ad nauseam. It has a good matchup against jeskai control, but a pretty bad one against GBx midrange and an unfavored one against delver.

Those other combo decks are meme tiered, I wouldn't play them if you want to win.

>>51247449
Except in legacy stoneblade decks. Then it's fucking amazing there. Not the thread to discuss this list though. It's pretty bad in modern though

>>51256271
I adore against the odds

Think Tron
U instant
Draw a card
Flashback --- return a nonbasic land your opponent controls to its owner's hand.

>>51259528
this is a terrible meme

>>51259930
More like a forced one.

>>51258251
I feel like it is bad against the decks it should be good against too. Infect puts down a blighted agent that you can't block or a spellskite for protection. Affinity puts down Etched Champion or Arcbound Ravager which either can't be blocked or plays around blockers. Dredge could put down a Stinkweed Imp to trade cleanly or any of their creatures that they get back from the graveyard. It's weak against any of the Midrange or Tron decks as well.
It's good against Burn, Ad Nauseum, and Scapeshift. There may be a couple other decks that I'm missing.

>>51260762
Stop

>>51259528
This would be so busted, I love it.

>>51259528
So not only you get to draw 2 cards for U at instant speed, but you also set your opponent's tempo back and hit them for 2 life if they don't want to be delayed even further? Are you a total retard?

Cancel Tron
1UU instant
If an opponent controls three or more nonbasic land cards, you may cast ~ without paying its Mana cost.

Counter target spell.

Urza's Salt Mines
Land

All lands with Urza in it's name have Indestructible and Hexproof

Add <> to your mana pool, then add <> to your mana pool for each other land with Urza in it's name you control

>>51261304
Are you retarded or only autistic?

Urza's Scrub Stomper
Land

Whenever Urza's Scrub Stomper enters the battlefield, search your library for a card with Urza in it's name and put it onto your hand. Then shuffle your library.

Ad <> to your mana pool. If you control two other lands with Urza in it's name, add <><><> to your mana pool instead.

Urza's Gold Mine
Basic Land
Taps for 7
If you have any other Urza land in play you win the game, and your opponents lose the game.

Giantron growth
G instant.
Target creature gets +2/+2 for each non basic land target opponent controls.

Urza's Autist Triggerer
Land

Add <> to your mana pool. If you control another land with Urza in it's name, add <><> to your mana pool instead.

1: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool

Urza's Tear Producer
Land

Add <> to your mana pool. If you control another land with Urza in it's name, add <><> to your mana pool instead.

7: Search your library for a permanent card with converted mana cost 6 or more and put it onto the battlefield. If this is the third time you activate this ability this turn, you win the game.

Urza's Revolution
3 Enchantment

Devoid
Whenever a land leaves your library, your hand or the battlefield, return that card to your hand unless target opponent has Urza's Revolution deal 7 damage to him or her.

Waste Tron
Nonbasic land
T: add 1 to your mana pool
T: destroy target non basic land.

>>51261516
>devoid

please leave

Is mtgo worth it if the only deck id play is dredge? I dont play dredge irl, but i dont wanna buy something more expensive

Urza's Gitgud Station
Basic Land

Add <> to your mana pool for each post on the Internet complaining directly or indirectly about Tron

In the interest of competitive levels and to ensure that the people winning the events are actually skilled and don't win by sheer luck, we've decided that Urza's Tower, Urza's Power Plant and Urza's Mine will be errata'd with the Basic subtype.

Urzas slumlord
Creature, 1
Non-basic lands are wastes.
1/1

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>>51250159