Pathfinder General /pfg/

>>51200799
>self-injuring fetish cirno
That's it, pfg, you gone too far.

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>>51200734
Fleur-de-Lys. It's annoying, because she was built for a previous hell's vengeance game that didn't get off the ground, and I really liked the concept of a small sneaky tiefling.

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>>51200861
It can always get worse.

>>51200864
You don't have to actively make it worse.

Stop making it worse, please, you are not being excellent.

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>>51200862
Wh-What happened to the first HV game?

>>51200862

I liked your app, though! I hope you're at least considered!

>>51200901
I'm pretty sure if this is the same Fleur, she didn't get selected to that PFGHV game.

Too bad, i thought she had a solid sheet.

>>51200901
Ran for a session before the DM declared Hell's vengeance was utterly terrible, nonsensical and unsalvageable, and that they'd have to retool every encounter and rewrite everything just to work ok, then decided to put the game down.

Its always weird when you finish a first game as a char and understand what you need to retool to make it good

>>51200958
But isn't any good GM supposed to rewrite an AP?

>>51200976
to some extent yes.

>>51200986
So why didn't he do it?

First for Spheres of Might is looking pretty good!

>>51200989
autism probably

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I'm trying to track down a Pathfinder third party campaign setting that was inspired by Thundercats and He-Man. I remember the production values on it looking decent. Does anyone by chance know what its called?

no I'm not talking about Numeria

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>be dm
>trying to start the campaign back up after winter break
>every time someone else doesn't have time
>they usually only know for sure they don't have time on the day of the game
>this has been going on for almost 3 weeks

kill me

>>51200976

There's a point at which you're doing more rewriting than following the AP

>>51200958

That sounds like a lot of APs to be honest, especially the older ones like Rise of the Runelords and Curse of the Crimson Throne.

>>51200910
Thanks! I just hope it's a time issue more than anything else, I'm fairly flexible for time.
>>51200941
>>51200965
Also applied for that one. I think Lys has been through 3 iterations so far. It really is weird.

I retract my idea of Armorist being underrated as there appears to be no way to gain unknown talents via bound staves - as presented the Armorist would still have to know the talent being added.

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If your character has low Charisma/Intelligence, how far do you roleplay it?

>>51201623

I just bee myself and excuse any stupid phrases or decisions that come out of me as roleplaying.

>>51200862
>You will never bully a little sphinx girl

Why live

>3 people cancel
>Have no idea what to do for the 4 that didn't cancel
I guess I could scale the encounters down...

>>51202042
Cancel permanently or just for today?

If just for today, have them roll up a character in simpleD6 and do a one-shot. If it's permanent find some new players!

>>51202087
Just for today.

I wish it was permanently, I fell for the 8-player party meme and I was relieved when someone quit 2 weeks ago.

>>51202042
>having seven fucking characters in a PF game

Just enjoy the fact that combat isn't going to be a clusterfuck all day erry day, anon

>>51202099
I culled my player count from 7 to 4. Never felt so good. I got rid of all the bad players AND any player interaction isn't a chore anymore

>>51202195
They're all my friends, so I'm uneasy about telling the players I don't want anymore to leave.

I wish I wasn't a pushover.

>>51202212
Can you run two separate sessions?
Like, split the party into 3 and 4, and say they have to do a bunch of simultaneous stuff all the time?

>>51202099
>I fell for the 8-player party meme
It's not a meme, it's just a bad idea. I don't think anyone's suggested playing with 8 players.

>>51202247
Possibly. I'd have to try and figure out how to avoid one group feeling like sidekicks though.

>>51202258
I played in an 8-player game, and it seemed to work, but I was wrong.

>>51202290
>I played in an 8-player game, and it seemed to work, but I was wrong.
It's not for everyone! Why not ask your former DM for thoughts on 8 player games and how he managed it?

>>51202331
I asked him recently and he said that it was actually a nightmare for him and why it ended so suddenly.

I am dumb.

>>51200862
Can a Dumb anon get sauce on that manga?
Reverse image search isn't working for me.

>>51202290
Two BBEGs.
Equally dangerous.
They have different plans.
Humanity can't exactly say that's not fair and tell one to go away, they have to buckle down and weather out both their assaults at the same time.

>>51202345
Sphinx-Chan's Ultra Quiz by Kishibe

>>51202373
Thank you very much anon, may dubs and trips come your way.

>>51202345
>>51202373
Please note; this manga is not about a sphinx girl unable to get RPG games off /tg/.

>>51200958
Uh, we're three sessions in and things are going pretty fine. We even had someone skip ahead a bit and the DM adapted things.

/pfg/ I need your thoughts. I'm playing around with some character builds and I'm trying to find a neat/compelling additional class to go along with a Gunsmoke Phantom Gunslinger.

I've already done the stalker and mystic builds for the "I shit damage" build. I'm trying to find something that pulls it back a little but still makes it fun. Any 3pp you can find I can use or consider.

>>51202761
Shadow Pact Avowed with Aether Rounds?

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What are some valid reasons to charge? Should you even use Charge when in a rage?

>>51202828
Having feats that make your charge hit harder. When you need that extra little bit of damage and chance to hit. When you don't have vital strike yet. When the enemy is too far away for just moving and vital striking.

>>51202828
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/barbarian/rage-powers/paizo---rage-powers/beast-totem-greater-su

>>51202828

Charging in a Rage is pretty standard stuff. Especially when you have Pounce and can absolutely murder people on your first turn.

>>51202596

>someone skip ahead a bit

Understatement of the century, Senpai.

>>51202869
B-but anon, I'll get beaten up real bad! I might die even with my extra HP!

>>51203042
>not murdering them before they get a chance to beat you up

do you even RAGE

>Only one caster in the party
>Martials put no effort into protecting him since he's not a healer

>>51203042
Trust your teammates to keep you alive!

Or take die hard or toughness and retrain later.

>>51203042

It'll be fine, just make sure that your teammates are ready to back you up before you rush in. And if you have a paladin in the group, hold their hand if you get into trouble.

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>>51203132
>>51203150
>>51203151
O-okay, anons, I'll try my best! Thank you!

>>51203136

Do they break his glasses and hang him off of door pegs by his robes?

>>51202783
Thanks for the idea, wasn't evening thinking about Avowed stuff.

>>51202828

>That picture

I love it when you get edgelords doing that in a campaign, it gives you endless opportunities to fuck with them.

Say, what are known other ways to pounce if I dont want to be silly and dip Lion Totem Barbarian like everyone else? I am making an alpha damage-oriented striker with emphasis on going first and hitting them hard before they react and I believe this is important

>>51203401
You can be a Kitsune and grab Vulpine Pounce, but you need to burn a feat on a less than useful feat!

>>51203401
What are you playing?

>>51203440
This is a gestalt game, right now its a combination of Mystic and another class I have not decided on yet

I plan to take Landsknecht later at L5

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Reposting from one of the last threads because it was too cute for me. Maybe it'll brighten up someone else's day too.

>>51203296
Hounds of Tindalos everywhere

>>51203450
You can get a lot of swift action movement if you wanted to. Elemental Flux gets one, Thrashing Dragon gets one, Piercing Thunder gets one and primal fury gets actual pounce strikes.

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>>51203460

Okay, that is actually pretty cute.

Does anyone feel like last minute critiquing Essie's app for RoTJR?

What are apps in Hell's Vengeance that you'd like to be accepted?

Which one's the cutest?

>>51203659
As one of the accepted apps, there's actually a lot of others that I'd be really happy to see get in. It's just a shame that there's only two spots left...

>>51203659
Mine...
And besides merfolk grappler bardbarian, Fleur is pretty cute.

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>>51203659
>was going to apply with an "office-worker-esque vigilante" character
>start time is absolute ass for me, making trying to apply pointless

I just want to love my job

>>51203659
Mine too.

Fleur seems cute. I hope we both get in. Or at the very least, I hope she gets in. I highly doubt my chances.

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>>51203726
B-but the players in different timezones to yours feel bad when they can't apply!

>>51203719
I think your character is pretty cool too, Anon! Whichever one it is!

>>51203742
Just hope and try your best! You can do it!

>>51203806
poor Favaro

>>51203659
Of the ones that are remaining, casters are probably going to have a pretty decent chance over anyone else.

>Roll20 doesn't show proper timestamps

How many hours left until rotjr closes?

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>>51203806
Yes, and? I don't begrudge them for it, but that still makes me sad because the last HV was a biweekly game.

>>51203865
Oh, no, no, I understand, I was just trying to put it in perspective!

I hope you get into your next game, anon!

>>51203863

About 11 hours, anon. Godspeed.

>>51203856

>tfw I made a caster
>tfw no comments and a low view count

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>>51203903
Do you want me to look at your profile a whole bunch to make you feel better? I can do that!

>>51203903
Which one anon?

What you need to keep in mind is that up until last night, the GM was mostly posting in apps to get an idea of why they were in Longacre, so if you've already said why, he doesn't need to ask.

Err, whats a good gestalt combination with Mystic anyway if I want to be somebody who moves fast and hits hard to boot?

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Bought this, coming in the next week or so. 3 player party good enough?

>waifu mesmerist
>edge investigator
>badluck martial class

>>51203887
It's a game that has things relevant to my interests. The GM seemed inexperienced but eager, and the players had a decent variety of concepts. It's in every thread, with people asking about characters. Even if I can't apply, it's fun to shitpost and try to drag together ideas for a game I COULD apply to.

tl;dr we dug too deep into this

>>51204012
Mystic works off Wis and so gestalts very well with Monk.

>>51204012
Mystic already does that.
Like... just build dex mystic, focus on strikes, and you're set.

Aegis is surprisingly not a bad option even though it's INT based.
My aegis 3/Knight Chandler X had only 12 or 14 int and was the master of kiting and if I'd known Flyby Attack existed as a feat at the time then I might have actually been untouchable.

Guys, what if the next big game is Curse of the Crimson Throne?

>>51204129
Well, I intended to be Str based instead since I am going Landsknecht eventually

I dont imagine myself kiting but more charge in, kill somebody with charge damage, and then wreak havoc with AoOs and stuff

>>51204026

Yeah, should be alright, assuming the players know what they're doing.

>tfw you realize last minute that your RotJR build would probably be better by switching one class

>mfw cute, usuable NPC submission to Dragon
>mfw the character apps have been abysmal lately
I DON'T KNOW IF I SHOULD BE HYPE FOR THIS ANYMORE

>>51203920
>>51203923

No I just like feeling sad and depressed and mopey and I like to whine.

>>51204308

Do you want me to make a hunk for Dragons?

Because depending on how tonight goes I might make a hunk for Dragons.

IT STILL SHOULD BE 32 PB

So what nationality is Druma supposed to imitate? Like the pictures show a somewhat Arabian influences while the names are more Irish and Welsh as far as what have been given. Or is it supposed to be a combination of the two/three cultures?

>>51204183
I wouldn't really call that mobility, I would just call that good at charging.
Aegis still helps this though: full BAB, flight to ignore difficult terrain, extended reach to improve your AoOs. Keep Time Skitter on, don't wear speed reducing armor, and there's pretty much no battlefield you can't close with a charge of 120~140 feet.

If you aren't being dex based though you may have to dip a class purely for the ability to use your STR or WIS to give you more AoOs instead of dex.

>>51204183
At your point, anon, any str/wis class that has some chops is fucking gravy.
Ordained Champion Warder would be funny.

>>51204334
>32 PB
For what purpose?

>>51204355

Druma is basically Switzerland and Italy smashed together.

>>51203450
Why not just get Martial Charge and use any of the multi-attack strikes, including the awesome one Landsknecht gets?

>>51204376
Make inherently MAD class/concepts mechanically viable, anon.

>>51204388
And why can't this be achieved with 25PB?

>>51204381
>>51204372
Well, the mystic part was because I also wanted some elemental damage because the theme was around the concept of literal blitzkrieg

Aegis seems good I suppose

>>51204334
Make a hot blooded shounen rival and things'll be great

>>51204395

25 is workable but a bit on the tight side.

32 is basically "I can get a primary, secondary and all the fun attributes I need."

>>51204417

Shounen rival? What would that entail, because I was thinking a Dragonslayer and professional monster hunter.

>>51204395
MAD class CAN work with 25pb, but it's shoestring, and doesn't allow them to branch out of their hole and almost mandates a dump stat.
I don't like dump stats, and I don't like having to put all my shit towards being just good enough to pass muster.

>>51204442
As long as you're also a bad ass greatsword fighter and we can get in fights with each other on even ground!

Also, entails noblebright personality

>>51204026

Could work. What PB are they using? If 15, I would tweak the encounters a bit, maybe shave a NPC off the groups and debuff solo encounters a bit.

>>51204520

>Greatsword fighter

Friend, I was going longspear.

Am I the only one here who really dislikes gestalt? It -is- fun to build characters with gestalt, but I feel like the rift between good and bad characters gets even wider and the character looses a lot of their identity if they're some weird mix between two often very different classes.

>>51204581
Cu Chulainn?

>obligatory dohoho/ayyyy

>>51204610

I like gestalt when it makes sense for the campaign, or one side of the gestalt is enforced to be a certain class.

>>51204520
>tfw all you want is an awesome battle against a rival that you can look back on with pride, win or lose
>tfw it happened, but it was tears in the rain
Atherist, I will never forget you, or the band we forged.
>>51204610
I've never done it, nor did I realize it was so popular a thing until the internet.
>>51204627
>RIASTRAD

>>51204610
That is really why you should set some rules for yourself when it comes to gestalt

They should preferably synergize or not interfere with each other and they should be part of a theme

People who mix two very different classes basically fell into that problem on their own

>>51204648
>>51204627

Anon, even better.

Will you be the Smough to my Ornstein?

Or will I have to be a recurring lightning-themed spearmaster and rival that can't stop with the puns?

>>51204707
Anon, I already submitted my great sword fighting paladin

>>51204707
>Biggie Smalls
>Keenan and Kell
>Big Mac and Fries
>Bert 'n' Ernie
>need that list of their nicknames again

>>51204747

Does this paladin only fight great swords or do they also fight those who wield great swords?

>>51204754
snoralx and pickachu

>>51204781
Har har

>>51203460
>Sneak up on Pangoll friend.
>Sneakily apply sovereign glue on his head.
>Yell as loud as you can.
>laugh as he suddenly rolls up into a ball and gets stuck there.

it's to cute anon.

>>51204698
Some of my best character ideas have come from gestalting two very different classes.
You just need to find a way to explain both in a way that links them.

My Aegis/Mystic||Vitalist was mentioned upthread and the story was that she was the heir to a vitalist house but then was chosen as a magical girl which gave her arcane combat powers, and she was torn between following her own star and keeping up the family tradition.

Others I've seen were a Paladin/Summoner girl reluctantly stuck with a succubus eidolon that became a friendly rival sort of character, or a Wizard/rogue who wasn't an arcane trickster, she was a normal wizard who went into a sort of magic coma and relived her entire childhood as an orphan that had to fend for herself on the streets, and only regained both sets of memories when she woke up.

>>51204026
>waifu mesmerist

Explain further.

>>51204877
Very vital build of Aegis/Mystic/Vitalist though? STR dump. Str dump every time and hope the GM doesn't throw you against Shadows, or call for STR checks.

:^)

>>51204904
I had those covered and you know it I was just playing it safe ;_;

>>51204841
bully!

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>>51200595

I hope I get in, I really like what I came up with but now I'm worried it wasn't cute enough.

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>>51204914
>I had those covered
your reaction to a Shadow

HELL'S VENGEANCE

Another app has been accepted!
Sorry for the late response.

One space left for apps! (Being available Tuesday around 6-8 GMT to start will massively help your chances.)

https://app.roll20.net/forum/post/4488124/application-fleur-de-lys

Welcome Fluer-de-Lys!

Why does everyone want to play pretty girls.

Dontcha know when everyone is a pretty girl, than the only way you'll get some action is if you initiate an encounter with the sole resident hunk?

>>51205030
has it been nothing but waifus being accepted, because it feels like nothing but waifus. That makes me even more frustrated.

tfw stuck in game purgatory with no locals and going through long application cycles filled with other characters. Each month a new cycle of excitement, loss of optimism, and grim acceptance of no games.

>>51205039
>if you initiate an encounter with the DMPC
fixed that for ya

>>51205039
because i have no confidence in playing a proper male because i can't play a proper one irl

so i mask myself with a cute animu girl so all the autistic things that i do can be seem as "quirks" and "moe"

>>51205030
Yay! Great job, Fleur's player, I knew you could make it!

>>51205039
W-well, I just wanted to play a spunky and potentially lewd as well as cute Merfolk grappler lady!

>>51205039
action is meaningless if you're not the one getting something stuck into them

>>51205040
No.

There's this " Lucius Nacht" dude who is not a waifu.

Just because they have vaginas (I assume) and are easily bullied, doesnt mean they're waifus.

>Put a listing on roll20 so my group can apply for our next game and I don't end up with a schizophrenic party again
>Mostly randoms apply, none of my guys
>They either make really boring characters or completely ignore my paramaters

I don't know what I expected.

>>51205040
I also desperately wanted to accept fa/tg/uy, but time did not allow it.

>>51205054

>Unironically fucking the DMPC

Delete this

>>51205030
Grats fluer!

I'm still writing my character sheet. Hopefully I make it in next but...
>>51205039
Mine's a dood. Which is also why I feel he won't get picked.

>>51205080

Really? Because I get a lot out of getting on top of the party Rogue and really giving it to her!

>>51204490
>>51204429
I see.

I will consider 32PB in a future game of mine. I'd do it for a game I'm taking apps for now, but chargen is already set at 25 and I don't want to force people to change their applications.

>>51205135

Which campaign?

I ask because it's not *hard* to change sheets like that (it's only +7 points) and if you give us at least a week before game-time, everyone will be able to alter their stuff.

>>51205135
Yeah, please do consider 32pb!

It allows generalists/MAD classes to succeed and do well!

How do I wizard good? We're level 3 now and it seems that even when I use one or two spells per combat, I run out and all I can do is shoot my crossbow. To make it worse, whenever we're in a situation where a certain spell would be most useful, it's never something I have prepared.

>>51205040
The 500lbs 7'0" fat guy was gonna be let in, but his schedule didn't work out.

>>51205158

Why do well when you can do amazing?! Better make it 40pb.

>>51205176
You can leave spell slots open and scribe them in later, for one thing. It won't help too much if it's 'oh god, sudden zombies and they're already here' but it can help a ton if you get some advance warning/just need to solve a utility problem that won't care if you sit and look at your book for a minute first.

Running out of spells is also a thing at low levels but it does get better.

>>51205209
You could just roll 2d6+6 and round up (i.e an 11 becomes a 12)!!!!

>>51205152
My own, in my setting.

A setting that my idiot housemate tried to use for this thread, apparently.

>>51205213
I've already tried leaving spell slots open, and not only did it make the problem of running out worse, but we never have time to sit down and look at the book.

>>51205176
> Daze is a very good cantrip to use.
> You can leave spell slots open when preparing spells and fill them later on when you need something specific

I rarely ran out of spells when I played full casters around level 3, but it all depends on the DM's encounter design. Either way Daze is a great use of your action.

>>51205223
Wait, what?

>>51205040
Hey, I was gonna enter a guy.
Then I reread halfway through my app and realized changelings are girls only in Pathfinder and I didn't want to start over. So Sasha's a girl now.

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My GM just started making up rules to make Pathfinder "more realistic"
>mfw

>>51205176

Play the wizard archetype called "Fighter". You only get one spell, usually it's Great Sword, but it solves all problems and you can use it at will. Goblin ambush? Cast Great Sword. Locked door in the way? Cast Great Sword. Falling down a pit or need to scale a vertical wall? Cast Great Sword. Tight lipped noble that you need information out of? Start casting Great Sword and he'll start talking.

>>51205040
Fatty Punchman was a strong contender (except for his availability), and there's a Warder/Soulknife dude already in. Vectis or Taurus would make a good final pick, but there's lots of female apps that I'd be happy to have seen picked.

Doing some more work on the Eastern European races for the upcoming AP work I'm doing, The Corkheel Revolution.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WHL10oJslOkQlm8cgm2rXm88BQPzgNjQq3fAhUMg7b8/edit?usp=sharing

Feel free to drop in. Finishing up race 3.

After I'm done with the base rules I'm gonna do favored class bonuses and probably some racial feats. Maybe a racial archetype for each if I have time. If I'm crazy I'll make the racial archetypes for the Broken Shackles Martials.

>>51205241
She could have a dick?

>>51205235
My housemate tried to use my very WIP homebrew setting to host a game for the thread while I was visiting family. I took it down when I got home and found it, people were confused, I said I wasn't intending to run that game and I felt bad if he misled them.

I have a game planned for the setting and I've started hanging out here since then.

>>51205258
It's not out of the realm of possibility I suppose. She's preeeeeetty flexible.

>>51205280
I mean, it's very l-lewd, anon, but if you wanted to it could work out!

>>51205176
Early wizard is suffering. Really your best bet is to let your party do all the work while you come in with buffs and other utility shit. Once you start getting some gold under your belt, get a headband of +int, then start spending money on pearls of power, maybe one or two for each level to help carry you over. Really you're not going to become GOD WIZARD until you've gotten a few more levels under your belt so you have access to the good spells, so relax until then.

http://archivesofnethys.com/MagicWeaponsDisplay.aspx?ItemName=Quarterstaff%20of%20Entwined%20Serpents

If you want something to do every turn, this staff is pretty great. It only requires Magic arms and Armor at 5th, but if your GM allows downtime shenanigans then you could get it earlier.

>>51205292
Consider the matter taken under hot and heavy and thoughtful advisement.

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>>51205296
>mfw that staff

Shit, not the anon you were talking to but I wish I had known about this thing earlier, that's dank as fuck. I should have made that for for the party's sorcerer.

Got anything else like this?

>>51205292

Why is the mermaid such a slut?

She wants the party to stuff her at every opportunity, and now she wants the woman members to have members so they can slip an extra 7 inches into her.

>>51205323
Thanks for considering it, a-anon!

>>51205362
She's not a slut! Please don't bully!

>>51205376

She's a filthy loose hussy that reeks of fish!

>>51205397
And that's 100 percent okay

>>51205349
Keep in mind that's a +1 quarterstaff as well. You could probably make it cheaper if your GM allowed for custom item creation.

>>51205242
what kinda rules?

>>51205242
Tell him that it is bad faith to make up houserules in the middle of a campaign, and further, if he wants "realism", then anything based on a D&D chassis is a recipe for failure.

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>>51205089
Yeap, Lucius's player here.
If it provides some sort of consolation, I'd already put a couple weeks of brainstorming on the fluff as my character was largely recycled from an app to another game.

>>51205227
That's when you tell the party "Slow down or you die."

Or at least what you'd say if you felt more useful.

>>51205270
Oh hey, it's you. There was some cool stuff there, I like the idea of vague prophecies making everyone freak out.

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>>51205030
>>51205079
>>51205128
Hooray! Thanks, everyone! I'm super grateful!

>>51205242
Drop that shit.

The point of having rules in the first place is something that you can all agree on to play.

Making shit up on the fly is okay; especially when you don't want to slow down the game, but any time someone goes to make it 'more realistic', it inevitably goes to shit.

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>>51205397
B-but anon, I...
>>51205415
Oh, good, but still, p-please no bully!

>>51205415

If you're a fan of fucking two copper whores, maybe.

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>>51205494
You're not? The fuck's wrong with you?

>>51205473
I pretty much banned grappling from my games because I like putting out large bosses and find it absolutely retarded when the dwarf wrestles a giant into submission.

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>>51205494
B-but... she's better than t-that, right? Stop with the bully!

>>51205528
I call that awesome.

>>51205422
Even as-is, it's a total steal. Like, it's 2 magic missiles/turn at-will OR not needing spell components. That's crazy good for newbie mages.

A shame I probably won't get time to sit down and craft until we're level 10+, and by then neither the summoner or sorcerer probably won't want it.

>>51205528
>large bosses getting wrestled down
>NOT something absolutely radical

There are reasons to discourage grapple builds. "It wrestled a giant that one time" is not a reason.

>>51205548
She is better than that. She's a cute.
And there's nothing wrong with a cute getting as lewd as she likes with as many guys and gals as she likes.

>>51205528
Do you ban all magic because you find it retarded when the wizard shoots glitter out of his fingers?

>>51205582
Y-yay! She might be a little OKAY A LOT lewd but still, yay!

>>51205588
nope because magic ain't gotta explain shit

>>51205588

Magic will be banned when the wizard shoots a stream of dwarves out of his fingers which grapples giants on hit.

>>51205079
Here's hoping my juggernaut gets in. Your character sounds fun to play with and bully vigorously.

>>51205456
Thanks! I've been working to fluff out each country more and work on the gods (I finished domains and favored weapons yesterday).

I want to have it be complete if I were to ever open a game for people here. There's a listing on roll20 right now, meant for people from my group, but I'm letting anyone interested apply.

>>51205617
Victis, right? Either way, I and she really could use another tank being on the battlefield! She can't handle EVERYONE at once until she gets wicked tuff!!

>>51205616
I fluff Entangle as dwarves coming out of the ground and grabbing at everyone's ankles.

>>51205641
I kinda wish EVERYONE could get in. So many lovely apps... Alas.

>>51205654

Is all magic just dwarves?

>>51205654

The wizard that specializes in school (dwarf) casts fireball. And by fireball, he's really shooting a dwarf strapped to a powder keg into his enemies. Rain of stones drops a litter of dwarves that make the area difficult to traverse.

>tfw just want to play a zweihander sentinel warder
>every time we begin a new campaign someone plays some kind of paizo martial that i know i'll end up outclassing or overshadowing entirely
>at least one person will bitch about path of war
>just want to protect people and swing a big sword

>>51205616
You are everything wrong with the d&d community.
>Martials aren't allowed to do something cool because it's slightly unrealistic
>But as long as your class has 'it's magic' somewhere in its description it gets a free pass!

>>51205710
Yes. That's the explanation. You don't have to explain it, but if you did, it would be dwarves.

>>51205725

iktf, but because everyone plays big great sword defenders I can never play the wizened, old veteran who is lightly armored and blocks attacks with a dagger.

>>51205717
A bunch of dwarves who resent you trying to get over them and make a point of it to get in your way as much as possible.

They couldn't be bothered to get up, or actually grab you, but they'll still do what they can.

>>51204295
The gm said the character doesn't need to be final. So you could change something up if you get in, ad long as you tell him first.

Whelp, finished my character's backstory. Just need to fill in the materials portion of my character sheet.

>>51205688
That'd be a nightmarish clusterfuck. I'd love to get in myself and plow the mer-skank. but I'm happy for whoever gets in regardless.

>>51205859
I hope you get in too, anon, whichever app you're doing!

>>51205842
Really I'm not sure what would be better. Seht as an OD/HG Warder with the Luck blessing, gestalted with Hunter, or the Chivalry Inquisition, gestalted with Zen Archer.

Which of DHB's characters has been your favorite? NTRDwarf, NToRacle, Old Spy, or Punch Fatty?

How do you pull off a convincing fall from grace when the character isn't all that high up to begin with?
I have realized my angry dude could go full black bastard, but I don't want it to be cringy or silly for it's own sake.
The pc's family is cursed by some high power to be sacrifices for inscrutable ends, and everything he does is trying to find out who this power is and kick them in the teeth, or at least protect his family from it, although he has no idea how

>>51205488
Don't worry qt
I will praise you after each "session" and give you head pats

>>51205949
Punch Fatty.

>>51205810

Luckily the wizard also has Summon Mount prepared, which really just summons a fat shetland dwarf who carries you over, grumbling the entire time.

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>mfw I realize the 3pp I'm using for my last minute RotJR app isn't pre-approved and it's too late to ask

>>51206022
PM the DM.

>>51206019

10/10 would keep at least 2 prepared so they could grumble together

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Is there a way I can throw a shit ton of knives around at once without necessarily being a high level full attacker?

>>51205949
Old Spy.

>>51205951
If the character was not that high up to begin with, you can have it happen slowly and over time anyway like having your character be slowly be more ruthless and extreme and all that as frustration builds up

>>51206066
Ninja? Or UC Rogue nabbing the Ki pool talent and then...

Their Flurry of Stars ninja trick gets you two extra attacks with shurikens for a ki point. And you can twf them. Just refluff shuriken into knives.

Might not be the most effective thing in the world, but you know.

>>51206066
Rapid shot, multi-shot, two-weapon-fighting

>>51206046
Didn't they say they wouldn't be answering questions in the last 24h?

>>51206022
what 3pp? someone else may have asked and gotten it approved or denied before you

>>51206115
Dont you need a bow to multi-shot.

>>51206115
>Manyshot
>Benefit: When making a full-attack action with a bow,

>>51206121
You're not saying "Hey, is this allowed," you're saying "I fucked up and I'm changing it, please don't discount my retarded ass."

>>51205250
>Rulsaka
>DHB makes a waifu race

>>51205548

I call that the the ankle lock, but "awesome" sort of fits, too.

>>51206124
Right, didn't think to check that. Legendary Vigilantes, namely Dynamic Striker and Exposed Vigilante.

>>51206157
I haven't even posted my app yet. It's really last minute.

>>51206171
I... I honestly don't remember if anyone else asked about it, but it's Jolly content, and that's very well regarded for most /pfg/ games.

How necessary is having 20 starting str for a fast bruiser character anyway?

Using my campaign's PB, I can either go 18/14/14/10/16/8 or 16/16/14/10/16/10 before ability mods

Wis and Con are required but the Str and Dex distribution is the question here

What are you gonna play in DHB's Revolution game?

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/pfg/, who do you want to get into the ONE AND ONLY, LAST AND FINAL spot of Hell's Vengeance?

>>51206196
20 str is a diminishing return because 2 handed weapons are 1.5 meaning 20 is +1 rather than +2.

>>51206196
What class?

16-18 starting strength is fine for full BaB, 3/4 might want the 20. Alternatively, go dex if you can afford the feat cost to more efficiently distribute your points. 18 is the sweet spot though.

Should I add more to my HV submission? I basically just mimicked someone else's but I generally like having more behind a character...but there was little time left and I wanted to get one in..

Im Novennia.

>>51206206
Doesn't it feel like every game /pfg/ get their hands on, it turns into a popularity contest?
And by "feel like" I mean, it actually does.

>>51206115

That, or flurry and wyvern sting style. You don't need the whip for that if you can just throw a ton of weapons.

>>51206238
It's like a fucking beauty pageant where everyone is fucking preening and fishing for complements or (You)'s

>>51206238

Didnt happen to the first HV or the Molthune Knights game

>>51206238
Whoever can post the cutest anime girl.

>>51206206
Some none-meme character who is there to be the only non-lewd or fetish character just to ruin the game because these memes are annoying me.

>>51206206
Punch Fatty

>>51206256
Incorrect. All of DHB's characters are old me/ugly and they always get meme'd to hell and back.

>>51206190
I asked and he said it was cool if I posted it, but I never got around to posting it because I decided to make something different.

>>51206206
I know it won't be me who gets in so I stopped caring. I hope the game breaks up after the first session and everyone is left feeling bitter and angry towards the other players and the DM.

>>51206252
Heaven fucking forbid /pfg/ actually decided who gets in or not. Fluffy Tails all over again.

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>>51206291
Shabby, yes. Ugly, no.

>>51206206
Aasimar Zealot!

>>51206300
Why though?

>>51206228
Mystic/Aegis gestalt, I was one of the earlier posters

Well, I dont think I can afford to go dex due to the required feats that I already am seeing in my build so 18 str it is

>>51206308
Post Kurat and try to tell me he's attractive.

>>51206232
It honestly only stands to help your chances.

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>>51205089
>This
Waifus need more than just being female - although they do need that. It's the combination of looks, personality - or implied personality from the looks - and atmosphere/presence that upgrades her from simple "it's a female" or "oh hey fapbait" to "MAI WAIFU"

many girls simply do not qualify for most.

>>51206311
(player here) Oh geez please, I didn't expect someone to actually look them over aside from the DM. Didn't pushforward a backstory because well, she's straightforward enough to where if I fluffed up the bulletpoints it'd tell the story, but not boring.

>>51206337
You say all [DHB characters] are [old men or ugly].
I prove that some [DHB characters] are not [old men or ugly].

I never said all [DHB characters] are not [old men or ugly], so there's no contradiction if I say some [DHB characters] are [old men or ugly].

>>51206420

Can you say it in red?!

What was the ruleset called that allowed 2 half BAB classes to have full BAB together?

>>51206238
Most of those who got in Molthune were completely unmemed

>>51206461
wat.

Do you mean fractional BAB?

Where a half-BAB class gives 0.5 rather than nothing, so someone multiclassed between the two with one level of each would still have +1 BAB?

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>>51206444
Fuck off Battler, some of us like playing Witches and Wizards.

>>51206461
Fractional BAB? That's for things like taking Warpriest 3/Cleric 5. Normally you'd add the Warpriest's 2 BAB to the Cleric's 3, and get 5, but with fractional it's 9/4+15/4=24/4=6.

>the elven tittymonster was an NPC suggestion in Dragon Game
not sure how to feel about this

>>51206483
>>51206510

So it is called fractional BAB! I roughly remember there being a section on the srd but I couldn't find it for the life of me.

>>51206531
Now I'm regretting sharing those pics.

>>51206675
sorry anon.

I wonder where the hell Dragon DM even is. Last I heard he said he was feeling ill?

Is it just me or is Aegis extremely good in gestalt games compared to its status as a Tier 4 in normal single class games?

>>51206715
Aegis has been tier 3 ever since it got initiation.

It's been extremely good as a secondary class to initiators ever since Student of the Astral Suit and Practiced Initiator both existed.

And yes, it's very good in gestalt as well for supercharging martial builds.

>>51206715
I mean it's good if you're a Martial and okay if you're a caster. It's basically "sundry thing that are important and now you don't need to spend gold on".

>>51206711
I haven't been paying too much attention. Dragon Game is the one I believe I have the least chance of getting in. I have higher hopes for fluffy and even HV (even though there's only one slot left of HV). I only barely got dropped from Molthune (was in the top 10).

Anyone have anything on Qadira: Jewel of the East?

I feel so creatively drained lately.

DMing is exhausting.

>Last encounter of the day
>After our ship sunk (kraken)
>On a beach against survivors of the ship who think it's our fault (It wasn't)
>Against superior numbers
>They have 3 dudes pretty stronk one of them as stronk as our barb and hits as hard
>Out of resources (Bard doesn't even have spells slots and only 2 turns of inspire courage, he lost his wands and scrolls in the wreck)
>Half HPs
>For myself "Ok, this has to be some joke"
>They want to kill us and don't care about diplomacy
>Roll ini
>They go first
>"Double fuck"
>Combat is gritty as fuck
>I'm at like 1/4 my HPs
>For myself "We're done, better flee, I'm the fastest of the group then can't catch me (I'm Umonk)...fuck no, I can't leave the rest behind"
>All in
>Attack the strongest, using PA and everything I got, even put myself in a possition that gives them flank just to be able to full attack the mofo by only moving 5ft
>Hit with everything
>Dude still standing
>They go
>They hit me a lot and leave me at 3 HPs
>If the big guy hits me I'm dead, srly, his average is 20+ damage
>"That's it, well, it's been a good run..."
>Miss
>Miss
>Goosebumps
>Here I go
>Roll full attack
>Nat20 and confirmed
>35 damage
>GM has poker face
>"Big guy falls"
>Still enough attacks for the rest who are all surrounding me
>Drop another tough with with the rest of attacks
>After me goes Barb who is flanking the third tough guy thanks to me
>Drops him in one attack and kills another nobody
Man, that was close, srly, I counted myself dead

>>51206803

Last I heard, it's slated for the 25th. Might check back around then.

>>51206789
Which app is yours? I might think you stand a chance

>>51206715
It's always been one of the top "dips" for martials; 3-4 levels of Aegis with SotAS will turn your vanilla fighter into a far more mobile character whose WBL is no longer completely screwed up by a lack of movment and environmental protections that make your survival so literally dependent on the party full-casters in many regions on the globe. You can even get stuff like reach, two more arms, etc if you use your points right.

In Gestalt, it shines brilliantly and can really complete nearly anyone.

>>51206755
Extremely good if you're a martial. Only kineticists and other "non-weapon" attackers like destruction-sphere won't benefit offensively; someone using channeled or aether rounds as an avowed would though - on the weapon side. For mobility, and utility (though on the latter a little more in terms of "money saved you can put elsewhere" than direct abilities) though, it's good for anybody.

>>51206877
Novennia. Working on some additions and elaborations.

I did an application for the Dragon game but I think I made it too lewd.

>>51206983
You can do it, anon! I believe in you!

So, what was the consensus on the Avowed so far? Good/Bad/Ugly?

>>51206877
>>51206983
For Dragon game it's the Undine, and for Fluffy it's Sohyon. I'm quite confident about my chances for Fluffy

>>51206985
You're the mime, right?

I'd do her

>>51206983
That doesn't seem to be a dragon game app

>>51207005
Assuming you're the same person...

Playing as an Undine you've colored your entire application by whether the DM eye rolls at the race

But I get to tell you the same thing I tell most apps, your character doesn't really want to /do/ anything.

>>51207085
Yeah, that's part of the reason. I think the reason for that is cause I didn't make the character for the game, I made it cause I wanted to play it and it already existed as a character and concept from another game. My other apps have all been made specifically for the game in question and that's the only one that isn't.

But I still think I wouldn't get in because my character is the most...mundane and simplistic. Using only first party material and not even draconic in any way.

>>51207023
Yep.
My apologies for not using proper art but is certainly hard to find the picture to represent Whisper.

Characters are going to be chosen for Rise of the Jade Regent and I'm so excited!

Who do you want to read filthy pastebins of?

>>51206971
>Only kineticists and other "non-weapon" attackers like destruction-sphere
Why are these always such a BITCH to gestalt.

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>>51207182
this is what i used for my murder-clown in a different game long ago. I'll dump you a few, though they may not be thicc enough.

>>51207000
Solid.
Damage runs the full optimization range in several forms and modes, debuffs and debilitators are available in multiple forms and modes "all day" (loaded onto attacks or otherwise).

Numerous buffs and quality-of-life clauses are reminiscent of the old Warlock; from the "+6 to these skills" old invocations to stuff like Air-Lock (aka "comfy camping and rain/gas/fire/cold protection field") that makes life a little easier on the party.

The pacts all offer a small ability package: They select one of your two starting aether pulse shapes, give two class skills (but often pretty weak stuff like climb or knowledge history), a free sense (detect X, etc etc), and abilities at 1/4/8/12/16/20. Each of those is pretty different:

Dragon Pact for example gives you immunity to sleep/paralysis at level 1, makes you count as a dragon when it would be advantageous for type-targeting, gives you treasure sense (material wealth in 30ft, can concentrate to pinpoint the most valuable, and lets you exclude anything you want so you don't get blinded by your buddy's 200kgp sword). At level 4 you get a boosted alter self that's closer to a vigilante persona what with the alignment-mask and all.

Nation Pact on the other hand makes your threatened area into difficult terrain, gives you sense-nationality, and starting at 4th gives you favored terrain: your whole damn country and favored enemy rebels/traitors/invadors/foreigners, basically.

Defensively it's a little weak; you can get concealment and some defenses, but overall defensives are your weak spot. You're not in heavy armor but you're not packing full caster magical protections either; at least not as the base class; various pacts CAN help shore up your defenses but it does vary which and how much.

Overall, there's a lot you can do with this class.

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>>51207250
I know, right?

Sometimes, skinner's right.

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>>51207275

>>51207250
Standard actions that aren't utility spells and aren't weapon attacks get shafted in the system; just look at how fucked-over Aid Another gets unless you're a Zealot, who can do it as a Swift.

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>>51207341

Say, something bugs me about the Scarlet Sentinels martial tradition

Considering its emphasis on loyalty and bonds above all, if you think you got double crossed by your employer or contractor, would you be considered justified in cutting them down on the spot by the Scarlet Sentinels?

It feels like a bit of a confusing issue for me.

>>51207281
Thanks for the response anon! Sadly I don't have any cute anime girls to repay you for your efforts. So just imagine one here.

>>51206734
Its access to Akashic Veils is actually quite nice as well. Pretty much every weapon using character can benefit from Armory of the Conqueror.

>>51207367
I wasn't aware thicc jester girls was something I needed, but it is.

>>51207275
Thanks for the assistance.
I'll ask you to dump the others but I don't want to be rude and monopolize the thread.

>>51207182
Why be a mute though?

It's much more fun to be witty with a tongue because it's so much easier to make people look stupid. And no one wants to be stupider than the jester.

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>>51207439
the other ones are either nonlewd, close-ups like pic related, or male.

>>51207421
This is also one of the very few available path to autofire users: If you want that Madsen to do good damage, you can't rely on feats at all; it doesn't gain damage from feats if it's got the 'automatic' rule. No Point-Blank Shot's +1 up close, no Deadly Aim, no Vital Strike (not that we care), no weapon specialization, no psionic shot, nothing.

But class abilities work. Like making it bigger. Much bigger. You'll never get that extra +15/hit the archer's doing, but you WILL be viable if you invest, with your effectively-colossal machinegun.

Powerful Build, Expansion, AotC could reach +3 or +4 at high levels with a cataylst.
2d6 Med bought as a 3d6 large becomes 4d6 when you go huge, and 6>8>12>16d6 as you go from Augmented Weapon to Earth Stance to AotC to backing it with catalyst. That's all pure weapon dice. Go ahead. Feel them in your hand.

>>51207528
Of course, that relies on your party and GM saying that it's okay to use autofire weapons.

>>51207482
According to the character class progression the Mime not only becomes mute but also becomes unable to generate any sound.

>>51207614
Yeah, but that sounds fucking terrible to RP with

Pick a different class to deride people with.

>>51207555
Well, for the most part it's 'easier' than dealing with a composite longbow, it just happens to do a lot better against packed up goblins and other really low CR zerg rushes.

>>51207528
How do strikes work with autofire?

>>51207651
She can still "talk" with a Ioun stone though.

>>51207651

Sounds perfect for evil lewds

>cant cry out

>>51207697
They just hit the first guy. The other hits resolve as basic attacks.

>>51207712
I think that might've been a house rule.

>>51207712
Is it only the first guy? You don't get to choose one of the targets in the line as the primary target?

I applied for Fluffy and I've pretty much closed the page and stopped keeping up with it.

I rolled up a male character that sounded fun to play and I just think other applications have out-manned my post

>>51207731
>>51207735
I don't remember the specifics; I just know this has come up before and a dev (Gareth, I believe) weighed in saying that was the case.

I might be wrong on the detail of whether you get to choose which enemy gets hit by the strike, but I know "one strike, the rest normal" was the case.

>>51207836
Now see, cuz I think I recall hearing a flat 'it just doesn't work' thing, but the 'pick a guy' thing was one of the houserules.

Oi, Dragon DM. You around?

Gotta ask you some stuff.

>>51207869
More like "the rules don't address this, here's what we suggest."

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>>51206983
Just noticed the Hell's Vengeance game is at 2pm EST. No way I'm getting in now.

How does it feel knowing odds are you won't be able to bully a spunky mermaid grappler.

feels bad

>>51208154
It does.

So, since I've given up on my apps already, we need to start convincing some other poor fool that they are the next lood DM

>>51208197
>mfw already running a lewd game
Feels great.

>>51208237
So am I, anon. So am I. The problem is that I would like to PLAY in a lewd game.

>>51208154
It's what I get for deciding to make my app so late desu, but it still feels bad

>>51208189
>>51208306
>>51208154
I-I'm sorry, anons, but there's only room for one more...

>>51208280
GM here for the Kinkmaker campaign that got settled a while back ago. I wanna be a player again so bad.

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>rotjr apps almost closed
>still no beautiful busty mute bard
Life is suffering.

>>51208197
>>51208237
>>51208280
>>51208306

what if we make a secret covenant free of applications where we can vividly describe fantastic creatures fucking to their hearts content?

>>51208385
Sounds like you just wanna hook up on F-List.

>>51208385
You REALLY don't get it.

>>51208385
I'm down.

>>51208362
Why didn't you make one, anon?

>>51208385
No. That simply will not stand. We must have dice with our lewds. I want to go on high adventures before retiring for the night to do degenerate shit like hand holding.

>>51208197
Can we not, please.

>>51208415
Because I can't

>>51208418
> hard hand holding
You disgust me, and are what's wrong with this general.

>>51208394
so the fun is in using your imagination to think of something remarkably cute and sensual, putting in effort to express the idea, and then watching your creation wither and die?

i guess there's a fetish for everyone

>>51208447
>>51208415
I nearly did make one for fluffy, but I made a different meme character instead.

>>51208385
If I just wanted erp shit I can get that easy peasy. It's the game integration that people are hype about. Very different experiences.

>>51207731
>>51207735
>>51207836
For "your target takes +x" a single target in range will be your "primary" in that way.

For "all attacks this round get +x" boosts though, you're in the green.

Strikes that cause/grant additional attacks will do just that (at high levels), and those attacks are completely normal for autofire, just like a reach weapon would have its reach and so on.

Of course what gets interesting is that some otherwise "bleh" strikes no ones cares much for most of the time, like the Solar Reflection line, become quite valuable when you start forking lines off each-other instead. It's no elemental cascade, but it certainly looks badass to do that on the map.

Hey guys, Haven't been here since august.

>What's new in /pfg/?
>Has DSP put out anything good?
>Has Paizo put out anything you guys liked? How about things you hated and would suggest people avoid?
>Any new good asventures?

>>51207246
I'm more interested in hearing about ADVENTURE than smut.

>>51208587
DSP?

Forrest/Jolly's where it's at.

>>51208609
I want to hear about both, myself

>>51208625
You realize that Forrest is back to doing editing, layout, and behind-the-scenes work with DSP again, right? Like, they're not completely separate entities like they were for a week or two.

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>>51208587
>What's new in /pfg/?
Kitsune posting, Starfinder details, more kitsuneposting, lots of games recruiting from /pfg/, and more kitsuneposting.

>DSP
Check out the links in the OP for some playtest material. It's all good shit, but not all of it is DSP.

>Paizo
we do what we normally do - we look at a new book and discard 90% of it for the few gems they release.

>Adventures
Strange Aeons is surprisingly not terrible, and while Hell's Vengeance is mediocre it's still a good time with good friends.

>>51208658
>Strange Aeons is surprisingly not terrible
I've heard nothing but bad shit about it. What makes it good?

Why are we here, just to suffer?

I hope Alance gets in, submitted the app rather barebones but I figured out where I was with her. Goin' Dex-melee with Intimidate joy. Might have a tendency to yell commands at the target being hit and telling them to beg for another.

>>51208688
Oh, the storyline isn't very good, I'll grant, but the monsters are fun and interesting, and i love me some mindscapes, so i'm a bit biased.

>>51208721
Well it's more comfy in here than /5eg/'s near constant bile.

>>51208641
Yeah, but when I don't get in, it'll be less painful to hear about missing the battle than the romance.