BEES

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>>51194592
Shit, i forgot to mention that i need a way that works by RAW.

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>>51194592
And before anyone says anything, yes, i know.

>3.5

Its what my group is using for right now. If there's a method for this kinda thing in shadowrun, though, i'd take that too.

>>51194592
BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the only thing that comes to mind for me using just the RAWs would be creating a demiplane of bees and using portals to that demiplane to either unleash bees or transport people to your plane of unlimited bees.

>3.5
what? it's the best version of dnd.

I haven't touched 3.5 in a while, but I'm pretty sure summon swarm is a core spell for druids at least. Also I think there's some prestige class based on wildshaping into swarms

>>51194779
Unlimited Bee Works...

My God.

>>51194804
This.

>>51194779
You, are a fucking genius.

Also, 3.5 gets a great deal of flack on /tg/ for various reasons.

>>51194804
i read summon swarm, but that seemed to name bats, rats, and spiders specifically. i suppose you could have the GM rework it to work with bee's though.

>>51194836
Child of Winter feat

http://alcyius.com/dndtools/feats/eberron-campaign-setting--12/child-of-winter--339/index.html

Get your swarms to Beehave and go mad summoning more swarms with Summon Natures Ally.

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Okay, so we've got bee swarms covered.

Next on the agenda is how to summon giant bee's.

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>>51195157
A way to produce giant bee's is also welcome. Magic will be involved either way, but if its easier to make a regular bee giant than it is to simply summon a giant one, thats also fine.

>>51195157
"Amber Amulet of Vermin" in the Magic Items Compendium is probably one of the cheaper magic items and depending on which type you could summon a giant bee or wasp. Outside of that I wouldn't be shocked if there's some way to make one your animal companion or something, but I'm not aware of any way

>>51195376
I've actually been trying to find a way to get vermin as animal companions. So long as thats a thing, a giant bee is an actual thing, medium sized, and ready to be companion'd.

>>51195419
Well with no level adjustment and 3 hit dice it might somehow be valid as a paladin mount without any penalty, but I don't think animal companion is on the table. IIRC the alternative paladin mount rules are buried somewhere in the DMG though so I've never really looked that closely at them

>>51195812
Oh, and with a strength of 11 and medium size it could probably only be a mount to a halfling.

>>51194836
yeah, I wish the 3.5 hate would die. I'm running a campaign of 5e right now for the first time, and me and my players have been disappointed about most of the changes, though some are interesting. I really like the warlock class, for example. kindof sad how much hate 3.5 gets, I think it makes things more fun for the players a lot of the time than 5e does.

>>51195157
this is part of why I splash dnd with the dwarf fortress setting, it makes things perfect. basically any conceivable creature has a giant version and a humanoid version, unless something has caused it to go extinct. it wouldn't be unlikely to see an elf mounting a giant bee at some point in such a setting, though I think a giant wasp would be a more sensible mount.

>>51195812
>>51195835
Well, its advancement table does say a giant bee gets large at about 7 hit die, so theoretically you could get one around level 6 ish that would be rideable.

Its more a matter of how do you tame a giant bee. Children of winter helps, but it doesn't do anything for animal companion.

>>51195867
Its mostly a meme at this point, the hate.