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Whats the board for pre-history? I want to dinosaur shitpost.

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Whats the board for pre-history? I want to dinosaur shitpost.

(Yes I know this is not a dinosaur.)
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>>51192799
i think that would be either here or /his/, eitherway dinosaurs are still enough /tg/ related
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>>51192799
If a giant reptillian monster from the dino ages isn't a dino, what is it?
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>>51192849
dead
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>>51192849
Something that falls within the biological classification of dinosaur maybe?
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>>51192849
And if chickens are vertibrates why aren't they mammals?
Stupid question
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>>51192879
What are the red beaked thingies?
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Dino shitposting? does this mean we have to have a war about feathers again?
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>>51192799
/an/ probably.
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>>51192799
>>51192826
I think you want /x/, since dinosaurs are mythical creatures.
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>>51192904
"Alioramus Altai", according to the artist.
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>>51192905
Feathers are cool, I prefer them over giant lizards mainly because it could look super scary.

We might never know how exactly they looked.
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>>51192905
Would you rather shitpost about how the new spinosaurus is gay and ugly?
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>>51192799
That's a dinosaur OP. Better hold off until you know what you're talking about.
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What kinda dinosaur would be ideal as war mount?
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>>51192984
"New spinosaurus"?
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>>51192799
Pre-historic is the term for any kind of civilization that has neither it's own history documented or is mentioned by others.
What you're looking for is palaeontology, and I think that's supposed to be part of /sci/.


Not stopping you from discussing it here, but you shouldn't do it on /his/.
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>>51193013
Yutyrannus. It's fluffy, It's big, but not too big, and it's arms aren't to small.
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>>51193067

It would be a pain in the ass to feed a carnivore wouldn't it be?
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>>51193013
Not sure about war but I do have this handy pet guide.
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>>51193013
The one that takes directions the easiest while having the lowest chance of trying to actively kill it's handlers.
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>>51193106
If you factor in logistics and training you'd never have a carnivore as a mount.
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>>51193131

Were there omnivore dinosaurs?
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>>51193113
the hypsylophodon, and the compsagnathus seem like the best pets.

>requires space/frequent exercise
that's exactly the same as german sheperd
>a bit nippy
Cats, anybody?
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>>51193113
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>>51193220
Nice edit
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>>51193220
>PC edition
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I want to run a game where the players are cavemen type hunters and get tracked through a blizzard by these things.
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>>51193272
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>>51193165
Pretty sure, but mostly smaller ones, I think.
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>>51193286
Here's a better version.
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>>51193323

Don't the dinosaurs need heat?
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>>51193165
Omnivores were probably about as common as they are today. Very few animals are consistently omnivorous. But tons of animals will eat stuff like bugs and rodents when they find them.

Chickens and pigs are good examples of omnivorous domesticated animal. They can generally survive on vegetable diets, although it's best if you have a variety of different grains and nuts for protein.
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>>51193362
I thought they were warmblooded.

Don't ask me, I'm not a dinosaur scientist.
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>>51192924
Fuck. I bit. I'm sorry everybody.
>FUCKING ANTI-DINOSAUR FAGGOTS!!!!!!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>51193428

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physiology_of_dinosaurs

Apparently it is debated.
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>>51193428
Warmblooded is an outdated term brah. Get with the times.
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>>51193486

What's the current term then?
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>>51192849
Icthyosaurs come from a branch of reptiles that split from the branch which would become dinosaurs before dinosaurs existed.

Dinosaurs' closest living relatives are crocodilians and birds. Icthyosaurs' closest living relatives are turtles and tortoises.
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>>51193662
Circulatorally challenged
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>>51193662
Differently-temperatured, you cis-temp scum
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>>51192976
I like feathered dinosaurs, too. Archaeopteryx has always been one of my favorite proto-birds anyway.
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>>51193662
Endothermic ("warmblooded") and ectothermic ("coldblooded"), although it's not as simple as "hot and cold". Afaik there are also other variants of thermoregulation in animals, but I am not very knowledgeable about this.
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>>51192799
Just because it's an aquatic reptile dosen't mean you can't call it a dinosaur, the only people who correct you are neckbeards who get off to that.
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>>51193428
It's not totally clear.

For some of the larger ones, like the really big sauropods, it's likely impossible that they were warm-blooded, since they'd essentially cook themselves alive just by walking around.

But for others--especially smaller theropod dinosaurs, like raptors--it's quite possible that they were warm-blooded, considering they'd have to be pretty reliant on quick movement and reflexes to hunt and avoid being hunted.
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>>51193796
>caring about Paleozoic reptiles is lame
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>>51193840
Whoops, Mesozoic.
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>>51192799
Id love to play or even get a book series involving dinsauriods. Fuck.
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>>51193272
Thoughts
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>>51194867
Don't get me wrong, tribal dinosaurs is cool, but just give them some thumbs. How did they even make that stuff without them? With their teeth?
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>>51196283
you'll probably have trouble balancing stone weapons vs. tough hides. justifying fighting anything more than a velociraptor (and that's pushing it) will be tough.
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>>51193701
Birds are literally dinosaurs my dude.
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>>51197131
You're right, I meant non-avian dinosaurs.
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>>51193796
Even childrens know the difference, idiot.

>the only people who correct you are neckbeards who get off to that
You miswrote "I'm an ignorant fuck".
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>>51196437
Humanity overestimates itself. its a huge flaw.
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>>51192905
Satisfying both parties is not hard
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>>51192984
the quadruped stance isn't as supported as it was two and a half years ago when the paper first came out. We're still not entirely sure but it's unlikely the front limbs could have been built to bear weight because Theropod limbs are NOT designed to do so.
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>>51193428
It's generally agreed upon that they were or something similar, for the carnivores especially.

I believe if Giraffatitan was cold blooded, it would take over a hundred years to grow to full size.
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>>51192905
As far as the scientific community is concerned all theropods (the group T-rex, raptors and other bipedal dinosaurs belong to) had a feather-like hair whose length depends on whether they were used for body heat regulation or gliding through the air (basically only the smaller species developed it as full on feathers while T-Dex and co looked fluffy).
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>>51198222

Christ that is terrifying.
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>>51198337
It's always more unnerving when an animal is looking right at you
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>>51192799
Did anyone else start hating paleontologists when they started putting feathers on everything?

As far as I'm concerned Jurassic Park is the height of dino science. Also, Walking With Dinosaurs.
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>>51198454
You mean when they realized they were doing something wrong for decades and fixed the mistake?

No. Nobody else hates that.
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>>51198595

FUCKING FEATHER FAGS GET OUT!


REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>51197608
I'm not sure you understand how big of an advantage being able to firmly grip objects actually is. Now it looks like one of their digits is acting as a thumb there, which is fine, but having very little upper/forward body strength and no thumbs is pretty condemning when it comes to making tools and weapons.

>>51198422
Might be a little less unnerving without the crocodile teeth, but I guess dinosaurs having lips is still a fairly recent theory.
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>>51198595
A little. depends on the depiction.
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>>51196283
Why go caveman? Everyone always wants to do the caveman game but fail to realize that being a caveman sucked so hard that humans evolved the fuck outta there way long ago
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>>51198595
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>>51198619
The mouth is open so you'd see the teeth anyways
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>>51198331
>As far as the scientific community is concerned all theropods (the group T-rex, raptors and other bipedal dinosaurs belong to) had a feather-like hair
But's that completely wrong. Allosauridae didn't have feathers, and all evidence points to T-rex (esspecialy adult T-Rex) not having feathers either.

Featherfags are the worst.
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>>51198595
>it's wrong because I say so lol i magically know things from hundreds of millions of years ago
>let me tell you what color dinosaurs were next lol
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>>51199135
I hate to break it to you man

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/sep/14/scientists-reveal-most-accurate-depiction-of-a-dinosaur-ever-created
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>>51198949
There's no evidence to suggest it was bald either.
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Who's team ankylosaurus?

I love these tanks.
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Any good dino podcasts?
Whats the best dino documentary and movies?
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>>51199284
In terms of sheer quality and effort put into it WWD is still the best I'd argue. Even if it's a bit outdated.
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>>51199295
WWD?
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>>51199284
Planet Dinosaur & Dinosaur Revolution are decent.

>>51199312
Funny how that series managed to predict the direction that Resident Evil would end up taking.
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>>51199325
Walking with Dinosaurs
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>>51199348
Ohh right, I remember watching that as a kid, good stuff.
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>>51199201
Yes there is, the near complete nano-tyrannus skin impressions which show no feathers. Unfortunately it's in a private collection, and so we can only go off of the word of the few researchers who've studied it like peter larson.
There's also the fact that we've known about T rex for 130 years, have found tons of skin samples and yet not one example of feathers.
Or that there are no examples of tyrannosaurids with feathers.

There is absolutely no evidence T-rex had feathers, and plenty of evidence it didn't.
Feathered T-rex is a baseless meme that needs to die.
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>>51199341
>Planet Dinosaur & Dinosaur Revolution are decent.
Agreed.
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Do you think pre-history man was successful at his attempts to domesticate dinos?
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>>51192799

I wanted to become a Paleontologist. Now I'm in the middle of a masters in History that I can barely motivate myself to complete. I regret not going with my dream of becoming Alan Grant several times a week.
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>>51199365
This is bait. I'm not going to even go into the Nanotyrannus argument or that Peter Larson is a gigantic asshole who has continuously tried to put money ahead of actual study. Bastard tried to sell Sue to a private collection and only failed because the entire city got in on selling it to the museum, and he later sold the Dueling Dinosaurs so we'll never know for sure what they are.

Also, as far as skin samples go, the ONLY skin sample we are *positive* came from T.rex is this tiny smidgen that is pic related. And it's likely on the underside of the tail, where we figured it would have bare skin. (SKIN mind you, not scales.)

There's no evidence that large Tyrannosaurids ever lost the feathers they once had, and given Nanuqsaurus (who is very closely related mind you) almost CERTAINLY had feathers given the climate it lived in, to deny that T.rex had any sort of plumage is silly.

I hold nothing for other large Theropods. I think it's fairly well understood now that Allosaurus and its descendants did not have feathers.

http://saurian.maxmediacorp.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/rjpalmer_trex_infographic_007.jpg If you're interested in more
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>>51199428
Wasn't there a few million years or something between the last dinosaurs and the first humans?
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>>51199470
allegedly
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>>51199428
Given that chinks apparently were having chicken for dinner 10k years ago I would say that they were pretty successful.
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>>51199443
I remember when sue first came to the field museum. They displayed the head first and let everyone take photos with it.
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>>51192826
Maybe /an/.

Alternately /k/ for Indominus Rex related fetishes.
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>>51198454
>watching walking with dinosaurs with dad
>cute little dinosaurs innawoods
>giant ass dinosaur out of nowhere trying to eat them
>they get a away
>dad's like "wut they just got away? what is this gay shit?"
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I've loved Pachycephalosaurus since I was like 5

for a couple pathfinder groups I petitioned hard to be able to get one as an animal companion but the gms would never allow it. Maybe one day
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>>51199470
About 30 million years between the end of the dinosaurs and the first primates.

About 62 million years between the end of the dinosaurs and the emergence of Homo.

H.Sapiens appears around 250,000 years ago.
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>>51198659
How about some civilization with mid-1700s technology?
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>tfw 90% documentaries about prehistoric life are either about dinosaurs or muh ice age fauna
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/an/ has a dino general from time to time
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>>51198659
If by caveman you mean a palaeolithic civilisation, then no, life back then was quite comfy.
>they didn't have to work for longer than 4-5 hours a day
>they lived in close knit tribes with occasional cities if land was rich enough
If only they had medicine and modern dentistry.
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>>51199470
Time portals, my friend.
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>>51192799
>This Thread
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>>51199679
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>>51199679
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>>51199709
>>51199740
No bully, I am but an Atopodentatus; a simple marine reptile.
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>>51199756
>Carsontopodentatus
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>>51192799
>/an/ Animals and Nature

We have dino threads there all the time, even multiple ones on different subjects at once.

Just beware the feather vs scale flamewars.
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>>51199348
It still bugs me they for some reason made the Liopleurodon this ridiculously huge uber-pliosaur, when in actuality it was somewhat over medium-sized. Size estimated based on largest remains found would put their upper length at 7.5 meters. Even the largely unsupported claims of larger maximum size fall far short of the 25 meters in the document (they only bring it up to the same size as Kronosaurus, which is roughly 10 meters).
Largest pliosaur known to date (a species of Pliosaurus itself) is estimated to be at most about 13 meters long which, while really huge, is still far less then the mega-Liopleurodon from WWD.
For most other parts the document was pretty accurate given the information available at the time, so I'm not sure why they went so widly off the mark with that one thing. It's not like a 10 meters long Kronosaurus wouldn't have already been a huge and impressive animal (that's bigger than any living marine predator short of an adult male spermwhale).

Misjudging pliosaurid sizes is kind of a recurring thing, though. Usually because people fail to realise just how huge the head is compared to the rest of the body (it's typically around 1/4th of the entire animal's length), which leads to the length of the body being often overestimated when working with incomplete remains (paleontologists have obviously gotten a lot better at it over time, so we're no longer getting estimates that are way off the mark such as the original Kronosaurus reconstruction, but even the recently discovered Pliosaurus funkei had its maximum size initially assume toe be 15 meters before being downgraded to about 13).
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>>51199784
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>>51192799

/an/ or /his/
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>>51199775

Why is this a flamewar? It's like fans of mammals having a flame war between fur and skin.
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>>51199822
>it ain't like it was in jurassic park so it sucks
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>>51199793
The Lio being 80 goddamn feet long was for dramatic purposes as far as I'm concerned, though there's some slight justification as it was stated to be over a hundred years old.

The biggest Mosasaurus hit about 60ft long at their maximum, and Shonisaurus about 70ft. In rather anti-climactic fashion the Sperm Whale is the largest predator ever, as we have jawbones from 80ft individuals from the pre-whaling era.
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>>51199893
Sperm whales are fucking hardcore, man
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>>51193362
>>51193428
It is possible to have the effects of being warmblooded without actually being warmblooded.

I believe the term is "endotherm" but not sure if that term only applies to sharks.
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>>51198454
Paleontologists aren't the ones putting feathers on everything, they found a fossil that clearly proved SOME dinosaurs had feathers. Then dipshit retards on the internet decided to flood deviant art and similar websites with cute fluffy dinosaurs.

What I really hate is idiots that don't understand the sheer time scale between specific dinosaur species.

More time passed between the different periods ( jurassic, cretaceous, etc.) than it took for modern day humans to evolve from simple apes.

I mean, for fucks sake, SO MUCH TIME PASSED THAT ALL OF THE SOLID LAND MASS SPLIT APART AND BECAME THEIR OWN CONTINENTS.

So yes, it is perfectly possible that trillions of different dinosaur species never had feathers at all. And then once they all went extinct the next ecosystem that replaced them started to evolve fluffy down. And then when those ones all went extinct, the ecosystem that replaced them evolved rudimentary feathers.

Don't forget, 99% of all species that have ever existed on planet earth are currently extinct. And the span of time that humans currently exist in is the equivalent of the period at the end of this post.
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>>51199793
actualy, it's not just wwd that did the "Liopleurodon is fuckhuge" thing.
got a book from 2001 that puts it at 25m as well and the reconstruction in the national history musem had it around that size as well. I guess it was a british thing for a while, since we only had some teeth to go of off at the time iirc
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>>51199284
There's this really awesome documentary I watched on the various triceratops species, and how a few scientists were finding strong evidence (at the time) that many fossils which had been categorized as smaller sub/related species might actually have been young juveniles of the exact same species.

I mean, it makes perfect sense, goats, antelope, rhinos, none of those are born with a massive rack of horns. So why would triceratops hatch with a massive rack of horns? Of course they would gradually grow through out it's entire life until they finally become full sized when the triceratops is in the prime of it's adulthood.

But for the life of me I can not remember the name. And this sucks, because I remember watching it with my mom, and she has damn good taste in documentaries. She is actually where I get my love for them.
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>>51199270
Can't deny, they're cool.

I prefer stegosaurs, though.
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>>51198454
Confirmed for never having watched the actual movie.

It clearly states in the very first movie, hell it goes out of it's way to say it, that the dinosaur DNA was never complete, so they augmented it with amphibian DNA, to fill in the gaps.

This is why the dinosaurs were able to change their physical sex and start reproducing, despite the fact that they all hatched as females.

So no, those weren't true dinosaurs. They were genetically engineered hybrids.
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>>51199679
What is wrong with that penis?
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>>51199832
>no one ever mentions that the dinos in Jurassic Park had amphibian DNA injected into them, and thus were genetic hybrids.
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>>51199893
Livyatan melvilli (a hypercarnivorous relative of the sperm whale that went extinct during the Miocene, along with the C. megalodon shark; the sperm whale is the only large marine predator to survive to modern day likely due to its highly specialized diet) may have been around the same size, although we've got so few remains that it's hard to say more than that it was similar to the sperm whale, but with teeth suited for killing large animals and was probably around the same size if not somewhat larger than what's considered average size for sperm whales today.
Possibly some of the largest Shonisaurus or Shastasaurus genuses may ahve reached that size as well, but it's hard to know for sure. They did come pretty close, certainly (incidentally, I find it kind of funny how unknown large ichtyosaurids are; they're pretty much always decipted in popular culture as the Jurassic equivalent of dolphins, but they also include the largest of all known Mesozoic marine reptiles, and even hypercarnivorous genuses the same size or larger than the the largest known pliosaurs and mosasaurs).

>>51199985
They are. Their head is effectively a highly evolved organic sonic blaster. A sperm whale can produce focused bursts of sound louder than a jet engine that would pulp the organs of a diver that got caught in the blast. They use it to kill or stun giant squids, whcih they hunt by diving to depth that are impossible for humans to reach all but the most specialized vehicles. They are also higly intelligent and social animals, and communicate in a way that has more in common with digital data transfer than what we'd consider normal method of speech.
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>>51200034
>>51200034
Endothermic is the scientifc term for "warm-blooded". Small dinosaurs were almost certainly endothermic, since they by all accounts seemed to have very active lifestyles and we know that birds (which are specialized theropod dinosaurs) are endothermic. The big ones could have been mesothermic, which is effectively kind-of warmblooded but not quite. If the size of the animal is large enough, it loses and gains heat very slowly and doesn't need to be able to fully regulate its body heat to maintain near-constant temperature, just slighly alter it if it starts getting too hot or cold.
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I've always wanted to run a prehistoric game with cavemen, shamans, dinosaurs and stone palaces and savage Germanic tribes
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>>51192890
chickens are dino though
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>>51199670
>palaeolithic civilization
>cities
What.

Paleolithic tribes were mostly nomadic and consisted of 40 people at max. Houses weren't a thing until the mesolithicum and bigger settlements require agriculture, which was introduced in late mesolithicum / early neolithicum.


Saying the life of them was comfy is also quite the stretch. That depends on the time, place and resources of your tribe.
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>>51200505
>cavemen and dinosaurs existing at the same time
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>>51199793
>The largest species, L. ferox, is estimated to have grown up to 6.39 metres (21.0 ft) in length.
WHAT THE FUCK SCIENCE, YOU SAID THEY WERE TWICE AS LONG THAT TIME I CHECKED.
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>>51192799
/sci/
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>>51200232
Sounds cool.
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>>51192924
>dunosaurs
>mythic
Fucking young Earth creationists!
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>>51201447
>He doesn't know
I'm an agent of Satan who fabricate fossiles and sell them to museum MUAHAHAHAHAH!
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>>51199270

Ive got a Halfling Lord Bard in 5E that went through a Lost Valley kinda area and basically became the campaigns foremost expert on Dinosaurs. Im now rocking an Awakened Anklyosaurus named R.J. Chestersweet'ums and the DM is cool with using Conjure Animals to get only Dinosaurs/Reptiles.Its been a riot especially now with Polymorph to turn party members into T-Rexes
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>>51198454
Cruel Seas best ep
I was living in Oxfordshire when it aired so it was pretty neat to see my county represented
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>>51201465
That seems like a really cool job. How's the pay/perks?
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>>51193662
Gigantothermy
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>>51200624
Knock yourself out:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tell_Qaramel
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>>51202907
They always seem to underestimate ancient humans
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>>51202907
The inhabitants of Tell Qaramel were already beginning with the domestication of plants and animals though. Among the findings were grinders for grain and bones of aurochs.

The near east had many kinds of domesticatable flora and fauna, like goats, pigs, lentils and beans. It's why it was dubbed the "fertile crescent".


Besides, it's still neolithic and not what OP wanted.
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>>51203739
It was from the grey border area between the two which is 11000 bc to 9000 bc
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>>51203761
That's right. It's still far from "occasional cities" in palaeolithic civilisation, like this guy said >>51199670
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>>51203808
When he said work 3-4 hours a day you should've ignored him
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>>51203924
I have an exam about this next month. Indulging my autism seems to be a good method for learning.
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>>51199365
There are also tons of fossil mammals that we have no skin inpression of despite centuries of collecting and so based on that criteria we can't tell if they had hair or elephant-like skin. Heck, there is only one fossil skin impression of a Permian synapsid.

Skin and integument only rarely preserves in fossils, and oftentimes the hair or feathers themselves can be lost before the specimen is buried. Look at how often decomposing roadkill loses patches of hair.
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I'm thinking of writing some homebrew about a "lost world" type theme (DnD 5th edition). Anybody got some ideas on what kind of stuff could be included, aside from stats for more dinosaurs?
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>>51199607
what are some examples for the 10%? I've seen Early Life
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>>51200285
it always bothered me that they used frogs rather than crocodiles which are far closer relitives
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>>51206944
In the book they used "filler" DNA from all sorts of animals, whatever happened to fit. Frog DNA was the only thing that became plot relevant because some of the dinosaurs it was used on were able to change their sex due to some frogs being able to do that.
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>>51199270
>sorry brah eheheh
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>>51193701
That's not an Icthyosaur...
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>>51206390
Permian or Carboniferous stuff I'm guessing
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>>51198271
>Giraffatitan
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>>51207805
I meant specific show recommendations
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>>51199189
>theguardian
try again.
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>>51208179
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(16)30706-0
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/microraptor-was-a-glossy-dinosaur-119691559/

Funny how the scientific advances make impossible possible.
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>>51199575
>ca/tg/irl detected
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>>51192799
So apparently, the horn on Majungasaurus is not a horn at all, but rather an anchor for a large amount of spongy skin surrounding it's face. As Majungasaurus was the only large predator in Madagascar at the time, it's likely to protect it from other Majungasaurus.

We can see a similar thing happening with T.rex in North America, which supposedly has thick, hippo-like skin covering its snout.
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Holy fuck digimon is so much better than pokemon I lost my virginity to a supermodel
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Can't wait for Saurian to come out
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>>51214482
I loved this book as a kid
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I feel like it might be nice to storytime some Age of Reptiles.
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Anyone else a fan of retarded-looking fish?
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>>51192976
more like this pls
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>>51192976
I strongly support cute aphex predators.
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>>51215004
Shut your mouth
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>>51214482
is it just me or does that T-rex look like it walked in on their parents having sex?
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>>51198454
People like you should just have their brains forcefully removed with a power drill. Fucking die, faggot.
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>>51193220
I give up. What changed?
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>>51192799
/an/
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>>51219417
I fucking keked anon good job
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>>51208133
Not those anons, but Walking with Monsters and Sea Monsters both incorporate a few settings outside the Mesozoic.
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>>51219833
Anon, are you colorblind?
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>>51214735
What's this? If you're offering to storytime it, please do. It seems interesting.
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>>51214735
Did someone say storytime? Come on Anon, it's dinosaur themed and the thread (and my body) is ready.
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>>51215004
You could fill a book on retarded-looking fish solely with failed reconstructions of Helicoprion. Good news is that paleontologists think they've finally figured out how the tooth-whorl worked. Then again, that's what they said every other time as well.
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>>51221989
Well they got it right a few times from what I can tell. Supposedly it used its jaw to cut up squid or something.
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>>51199793
It made for good sensationalist television. As I recall, in the books they try to justify it by saying that they've found fragments of some sort of sea creature that maaaybe came from a giant pliosaur, but that's it.

According to some paleontologists, the show's creators just asked them the absolute biggest size estimate they had at the time (20 m), and they added a bonus 5 m because why not.
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>>51200232
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GrqB09hL5k

Was it this one? It's about the same subject.
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>>51221989
Reminds me of Spinosaurus.
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>>51214482
Nigger I know T-Rex's were big but jesus christ look at the trees by his feet. Unless this is some kind of godzilla/T-Rex hybrid thingy?
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>>51223334
Pliosaurs generally have a problem with being recostructed as too big. Kronosaurus for example has consistently shrunk since its initial discovery. I've seen older books give it sizes comparable to the WWD mega-Liopleurodon, but these days it's estimated to have been about 10 meters long.
It's because the skull seems to be preserved far better than the rest of the body, so often you're working with a good understanding of what the animal's head looked like and how big its jaws were, but veyr little information on the body. Early reconstructions often gave them proportions similar to, say, crocodiles, which resulted in ginormously huge sea monsters. In actuality, pliosaur proportions are a bit odd, in that their heads are ridiculously massive (1/4th or even 1/3rd of ther entire length). So in actuality you've got a medium-size (in terms of giant Mesozoic marine reptiles; large pliosaurs are still bigger than any modern marine predator except the sperm whale) marine reptile with a colossal set of jaws.

Pliosaurs are kind of weird, really. If you look at every other marine apex predator, from mosasaurs and ichtyosaurs to sharks and toothed whales, they all have the same basic body shape, namely a long body with a powerful tail that provides propulsion and fins that are used for lift and steering. Pliosaurs are an exception, though, having a short body and a stubby tail, with big flippers for propulsion. That kind of setup is not very energy-efficient or conductive to fast movement, though.
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>>51224497
It's like a shrubbery or something
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>>51193019
Far left.
Personally I'm with >>51198233, I'm pretty skeptical about the quadruped thing personally
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>>51193362
>>51193428
Once you get to the size of an elephant, getting rid of heat becomes harder than retaining it.
An active predator the size of a tyrannosaurus would be "warm blooded" just by virtue of the amount of active tissue that it had
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>>51224525
Yeah, back in the day my children's dino books usually gave Kronosaurus' size as 17 m, and Liopleurodon as 12. So you can imagine, as a kid I was pretty astonished over WWD's even bigger portrayal.

Same goes for their 40 m long Diplodocus.
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>>51196283
I don't know what system, but GURPS is great for exactly this.
GURPS dinosaurs is imo the greatest dinosaur related piece of RPG literature ever written, and it was actually the first RPG book I ever owned.
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>>51196283
I will say though,>>51196494 and>>51198659 are definitely right. Anything dilophosaurus sized and upward will absolutely fuck your player's shit UP.
It's so much goddamn fun
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>>51199284
>dino podcasts
It's infrequently updated, but I really like the TetZoo podcast
http://tetzoo.com/
It's pretty much a paleontologist and his friend talking about random shit related to whatever strikes their fancy.
I enjoy it.
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>>51228934
>cut two Ring Necks at once
>cut one Ring Neck twice
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Thank you storytime Anon. My body is ready.
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>>51228949
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>>51228951
Thanks citizen

I realized I only had one of the stories on my computer, so I had to find a torrent for the whole thing to get this first story.
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>>51228983
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>>51228983
>so I had to find a torrent for the whole thing to get this first story.
Your not a hero, your a fucking GOD. I tip my fedora, and my anime waifu, in your general direction.
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>>51229031
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>>51229049
Just doing my part!
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>>51229068
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>>51192976
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>>51229083
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>>51229145
Blue Back is going to get shanked like a little bitch.
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>>51229168
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>>51229185
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>>51229206
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>>51229225
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>>51229237
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>>51229251
Back in a little bit!
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>>51229268
>HAHA you little bitch!
>We stole your kids!
Looks like Blue Back got Raptor'd
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>>51229268
PART TWO!
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>>51229373
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>>51229393
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>>51229411
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>>51229431
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>>51229454
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>>51229206
Blue Back's Bitch Brigade

Though female therapods may have been bigger - or I may just be misremembering from the Big Al game
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>>51229475
This first story came out in 1993, so it's a little dated where the science is concerned.
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>>51229492
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>>51229541
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>>51229574
the lungfish's name is Oxy
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>>51229586
>lungfish named oxy
Kek.
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>>51229586
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>>51229600
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>>51229611
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>>51229611
You crazy nigga, you don't go after them. They're going to kick your ass.
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>>51229627
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>51229659
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>>51229680
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>>51192904
Birbs.
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So for those of you unaware, recently it was discovered a particularly large vertebrae of Supersaurus actually belonged to Barosaurus. Factoring in how gracile and long Barosaurus is, this upped the adult size of Barosaurus to a ridiculous 160ft long (slightly less than 49m for non-americans), and makes it the largest/longest Dinosaur ever known from existing material.

https://svpow.com/2016/09/16/how-horrifying-was-the-neck-of-barosaurus/
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>>51229659
I love the shit-talking Zipolote
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>>51229724
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>>51229747
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PART THREE!
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>>51193113
>risk of disembowelment
Easy, just declaw it like you would a cat
>inb4 it'll get depressed like a cat would
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>>51230076

Nooo

Don't follow the creeper!

Stranger danger, Short Tail! STRANGER DANGER!
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>>51230103
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THE FINAL CHAPTER

of this story
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>>51230131
As long as nobody posts any images we should be able to finish this story before we hit the image cap.
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>>51230131
I'm so fucking hyped right now!
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>>51230151
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>>51230267
Sudden betrayal!
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>>51230454
Quetzal, sassy to the end
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>>51230478
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>>51230521
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>>51201465

Its funny because its true.
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>>51230554
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>>51219367

kek
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>>51230568
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Proto fuck yeah

That's it for Tribal Warfare, hope everybody enjoyed it!
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>>51230604
Couple of bonus pictures
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>>51230621

Okay, all done.
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>>51230639

I love you
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>>51230639
You are the best person ever, thank you anon.
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Digimon>Pokemon
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>>51200502
Thanks for the not getting assblasted at me for using the wrong terminology.

I was basing my post off of an article I had read ages ago about a species of shark (I believe it was the salmon shark?) that survives living in waters chaulk full of glaciers and hunts seals by pumping it's blood through a special system interconnected with it's gills. Basically the reverse of the way elephants pump their blood through their huge ears to keep cool.

So the shark more or less has all the effects of being warm blooded, and can hunt fast prey such as seals, without actually being warmblooded.
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>>51207043
Is that even true IRL? Or did they just make that up about frogs because nobody wants to watch a movie about hermaphrodite hybrids genetically engineered from dinosaurs and oysters.

What the hell would a dinosaur with all of it's reproductive genes swapped out for an oyster even look like?
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>>51214338
In the same way that a musk ox has a thick padding of spongy flesh underneath it's horns so it doesn't receive permanent brain damage from ramming other musk ox?
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>>51230840
Yes, some frogs do change gender depending on the gender ratios. If most of the females die, the males will become female.
It happens with some species of grouper, too.
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>>51221989
I want an aquarium full of nothing but inch long versions of all of these illustrations.
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>>51230639
dinosaurs are cool
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>>51223386
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GrqB09hL5k
I don't care if it's the same one or not. I'm watching it anyways.
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>>51229574
haha bitch ass raptor.
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>>51230246
Had this idea right after I posted the page
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If somebody makes a new dino thread tomorrow, I can post the next story if I have time.
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Did snakes exist during any of the dinosaur periods? Or did they only evolve after the dinosaurs went extinct/evolved into birds?
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>>51229049
You just gave me the most bizarre mental image.

>random anon pics up Vivian James
>holds Vivian James horizontal with head pointed in the direction of story time anon
>places Vivian James back on her feet
>"... Meh, story time is good shit, I don't object."
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>>51229206
I know proto mammalian creatures existed during the era of dinosaurs, but they were all bald creatures that lived in underground burrows, more akin to naked mole rats.

Weren't they?
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>>51229268
>taking your shit out on defenseless babies/eggs

Those fucking niggers.
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>>51232213
I want to say that proto-mammals may have had fur or fuzz already. I think there have been finds confirming this but I'm no expert.
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>>51229431
I want an herbivorous dinosaur waifu now.
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>>51229639
What you do is get them to panic, get them running, then just follow along behind them. Keep just close enough that they stay running, but not so far behind that they think they've lost you and settle back down.

Eventually the weakest/sickest member of the herd will fall behind. Even young herd animals only a single day old can keep up with most adults.

But the injured/disease ridden/parasite infested ones will lose their stamina/endurance first. And the rest of the herd won't give a shit when the predator knocks that one over and tear it's throat out.

Although all pack predators use this tactic when a single individual in a herd stands out as unusually vulnerable, the spotted hyena have evolved to be experts in this hunting technique and use it every time. They even take turns being in the lead, swapping out the position with the other members of the hunting group so that no one individual becomes too winded to keep up.

They are so successful at using this tactic, even against water buffalo, that lions more often than not steal kills from the spotted hyena. I honestly don't know where their reputation as being scavengers comes from.
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>>51229694
>scientist discovers never before seen missing link between ancient dinosaurs and modern day birds
>"What name have you given it?"
>"... Birbs."
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>>51229713
I wonder if they actually used their tails as whips, the way everyone always portrays them ass.

That's as silly as rats or mice using their tails as whips.

I bet it's only a matter of time before someone discovers they weren't nearly as flexible as everyone draws them as.

But shit man, those necks...
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>>51229747
LMAO, you fuckers got what you deserved.
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>>51230053
Cats don't get "depressed" because they are declawed. Declawing permanently removes the claws of your cat the same way a human would permanently remove a fingernail by amputating half of the finger it's attached to. The difference between cats and humans? Cats have to WALK on their amputated digits.

It's physically painful for them to do so. Especially since their claws are not surgically removed, thus avoiding sharp jagged bone edges and permanent nerve damage, but are literally chopped off with a pair of clippers.

>inb4 cat fag

I would have no objection to declawing cats if it was done responsibly, with surgery, the same way spaying female cats is done. It's the lack of ethics involved in the acceptance of the current methods used to achieve declawing. Not declawing in and of itself.
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>>51230117
At least he took one of those bastards out with him.
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>>51230899
It's truly a fascinating world we live in, isn't it?
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>>51232246
Yeah, they probably did have fuzz.

All I really remember is that the first proto mammal survived the massive extinction event at the time because it could burrow underground, and thus eat roots and tubers that other herbivores couldn't. Plus, it's small size meant the average proto mammal didn't starve as much as the larger herbivores because it required less food.
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>>51232976
proto-mammals weren't that small, considering they found a small dino inside the belly of one of them
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