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Dubs games are stupid edition // SISTER FISTER FOR LIFE EDITION

old thread >>51186907

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>>51190087
First for sister fister
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So when is Fall of Cadia out?
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>>51190117
99th for sister fister
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>>51190117
Still rolling on colors. One more for cadian green-and-brown.
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>>51190130
It's beautiful.
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>>51190117
Colors: Sororitas black n gold. To compete the joke.

Someone posted it last thread, carrying it over.
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>>51190128
tomorrow

>>51190140
thanks, I like anon's idea of the sideways fist and using number 99 in honor of the get

now anon just has to deliver a painted sister fister in a couple months and the legend will be cemented in history
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>>51190087
Let's keep it rolling, trips decides color scheme

The guardfags collective autism cannot be stopped, cadian falls but the guard still stands
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>>51190162
trips rolling games are really destructive to discussions in the thread, maybe colours should be a dubs rolling game now?

also: rolling for SoB colours because lmao sister fister
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>>51190130
>>51190161
Save this faggots, it will happen, the god emperor kek wills it
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>>51190162
Uthwei colours because fuck you
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>>51190177
Thank you for resolving that so quickly, master get.
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>>51190162
Brown and red.
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>>51190130
Hell "Sister 99" sounds cool anyway, it would get me thinking about what it meant anyway.
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>>51190193
Filthy elf lovver.
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>>51190177
Yeah true true, okay now dubz decides pants scheme

>trips and mod gets to shove the baneblade up my ass
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>>51190130
That's brilliant. Seconding >>51190157 for maximum sisters
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>>51190209
just make it sister colours, the thread has spoken, even is blessed with dubs >>51190177
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>>51190177
HA!

IT IS DECIDED!
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>>51190209
Anon, there really is no getting around it at this point. There's been two dubs asking for it this thread and plenty of people wanting to see it.
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>>51190209
>>51190200
Dubs already achieved.
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>>51190205
>>51190130

Sister 99 / Father 132 (Variant Baneblades)

Son 66 / Daughter 33 (Variant Russes)
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>>51190233
>>51190177
>>51190199

Fine fine Jesus one dubz was enough, to pull the thread back on track what's everyone's favorite baneblade variant? Or post pics of yours
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>>51190209
I like anon's brown and red. Could make for a nice IG scheme.

>>51190200
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>>51190205
Could be something like how the crew have served in the tank so loan it's like a brother to them.

Except no trooper thinks of his vehicle as male. So she's a sister to them.
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>>51190258
Red armour, brown cloth?

>inb4 bring my brown pants
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So has there been anything in the rumour mill about a plastic abaddon?
His current model is pretty trash tier, and it'd be cool to see a model thats big enough for the primarch sized weapons to actually be in scale ike it always is in the art
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>>51190259
LONG. FUCKING AUTOCORRECT
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What should I get next for my Nurgle CSM army?

So far I have:

>20 CSM
>Termi Lord
>5 Terminators
>2 Spawn
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>>51190259
If he ever feels like playing Renegade Guard, he could also easily use it as a mockery to how the Baneblade eradicated an army of SoB.

It's genius, really.
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>>51190259
That or it's a nod to how thicc Celestine's ass is.
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Hello, I haven't played 40k or any other wargames for that matter in over a year, pretty much since Age of Sigmar killed Warhammer Fantasy, but I just recently got a cheap-ass airbrush and I'm actually enjoying painting with it and kinda want to use it to knock out a painted army for once, so I might get back to 40k. Has much changed in the last year? I can't even remember if 7th edition was the newest one back then.
Is it even worth getting back? I still enjoy the setting, and I love building model kits
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>>51190303
Someone post that new art for her. NOW
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>>51190289

Oh, I should add: No bikers.
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>>51190289
a sorcerer
lord punches people, sorcerer is the force multiplier
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>>51190254
>what's everyone's favorite baneblade variant?
I'm quite partial to the sister fister myself, best variant imo
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>>51190328
heldrake
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>>51190136
I would love if it was Ahra, but is probably going to be either yriel or the faggot hippie eldar exodite, I won't hype yet but I hope it's Ahra.
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>>51190326
Best I could do in short notice.
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>>51190361
cheesestine, divine saint of cheesecake
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>>51190371
Too bad the artist gave her and Greyfax butterfaces.
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>>51190326
They sure are a glorious trio.

Can't wait to pick them up tomorrow.
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>>51190268
Yeah.
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>>51190361
Why is her iron halo as large as a basketball hoop?

>it's gonna get caught in doorways
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>>51190425
That sounds pretty snazzy actually. I was considering Scions with red armour and khaki cloth.

>>51190437
And her wings won't?
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>>51190415
I love that Cawl's mechanical arm is mimicking his flesh one.

"Who's the best boop? That guy"
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>>51190450
Do it.
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>>51190254
My Mechanicus are partial to the Hellhammer, since it can drop some fuckoff blasts and some decent other dakka, and in Heresy games I can give it Interceptor, -1 cover saves, Tank Hunter and AP0. RIP Horus.
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>>51190464
His gun is pointing the same way too. I'm guessing all three of his brains are pointing the same place.
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>>51190469
I've been stuck on what color to make their arm stripe. I know it's dumb but I like the small details.

Also there needs to be a Scions painter app already.
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>>51190464
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How should I equip my NL Raptors? Specifically, how should I equip the Champion and Lord? I kinda really want to run him with the Claws of the Black Hunt, and I think raptors are the best place to put that.
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>>51190464
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>>51190289
Autcannon Havocs.
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>>51190464
Always makes me think he's mimicking Fonzie while doing that motion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyzK6e6py9A

"Yeah, could you move that orbital bombardment up a little bit? Little over to the left. Right there. Eeyyyy!"
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>>51190415
YESSSSSSS
T H I C C
H
I
C
C
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>>51190538
Easy there Slaanesh.
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Which camo patterns should I use for my Blood Axes?

>inb4 all of them
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>>51190501
If you just want flexibility it's hard to go wrong with a Power Fist, Lightning Claw, and Sigil of Corruption.
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>>51190560
56
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I already got Cawl today and i decided to let him fight against celestine

Cawl took two wounds, which he regenerated instantly, while Celestinerarely took wounds, but in the long run i managed to take her down, after 20+ rounds....
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>>51190554
FUCK OFF CORPSE GOD

SHE WILL BE MINE

MMMMIIIINNNNEEEE
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GW could finally have supplanted warconvo if they'd just let Grand Convo get both of its bonuses without a 4k point investment and allowed Guard tanks to be taken
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>>51190561

Would the +1S rending Lightning Claws be good instead? They're the same price as Fist+LC.

What about the champ?
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>>51190560
Something purple.
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>>51190560
4
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>>51190574
Hmm. Was that statistical?

Someone post their stat blocks again, I want to math this out.
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>>51190596
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>>51190560
I'd second >>51190572 or 27. Something reddish fits them a lot better, even if it's not the most effective camo
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>>51190560
64

Go classic. Alternatively, go classic blue/yellow/white tigerstripes.
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>>51190596
Well, we used their stats from fall of cadia, but i had some luck with my rolls.
Having 2d6+1 ini 10 attacks is quite usefull, together with that axe that insta kills her bodyguards
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Where did Duncan get a Gyrinx model in his latest video?
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>>51190681
from a new kit that hasent been leaked probably some kind of eldar
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>>51190681
it's a preview

presumably it'll show up in the next release
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>>51190587
I much prefer the PF/LC combo, but rending does mean you are toast vs. 2+ armor. Be sure to take Melta Bombs if you go that route.

Champions are tricky since their weapons are basically overcosted since they pay the same as Lords. I often don't upgrade them unless I have extra points. All the options have pluses and minuses so just take what you prefer. Don't spend too much on them though.
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Is it a bad idea to field allies of convenience even if it's a game just for fun? I was considering fielding some tau along with my lamenters
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>>51190702
>are toast
aren't toast
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>>51190162
Rolling in new thread for Red and Green
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>>51190464
Cawl' mechanical body is clearly his stand
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>>51190209
Red with a Black trim. Like the Sisters of the Bloody Rose. Because, you know, Sister Fisting is brutal.
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Did anyone save all full rule scans from like 4 threads ago and could either post them or put them in an imgur please?
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>>51190596
I've done the maths already. Celestine and the Twins can't actually hurt him statistically due to regen and 2+, and he can't either, but it takes less luck for him to get two unsaved wounds on the Twins and then another two next turn than the AP3 swords need to hurt him, and even then he has 5 wounds and regen.

That's pretty much how I thought it would go.
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Someone mind explaining how the Sekhemet Thousand Suns were affected by the Rubric's detrimental effects?

I thought it said they were psykers and that only those lacking psychic potential were affected?
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>>51190415
>hips wider than her shoulders
HNNNNNG
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>>51190697
>>51190698

Are you ready for Gyrinx to join the Tau to give them Psykers?
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>>51190704
Allies of convenience are perfectly fine. You can't make share buffs and such but otherwise there aren't any issues. What you do want to avoid are desperate allies and come the apocalypse.
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>>51190754
Yeah, it might be the best way to make Sisters look more feminine: make 'em thicc.
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>>51190755
more likely it'll be for the eldar, mate. We've seen at least one new miniature in the cadia book.
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>>51190784
the word thicc is a meme that needs to die
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>>51190755
fuck no
>>51190727
>and he can't either
he got a power axe, which means that he ignores her armor, wounds her on a two, kills her guard with one hit the only thing she has left do defend herself is a 4++ save, which means that he can hurt her
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Does Cawl get an extra attack for having the Power Axe and Arc Scourge?
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>>51190727
Having done the math myself, Cawl basically smokes a twin every turn through sheer attack output. Since Celestine can only replace a twin every OTHER turn, she'll eventually lose from attrition.

This combined with the fact that she doesn't swing anywhere NEAR hard enough to punch through Cawl's 2+ save AND average of 2 wounds regenerated per turn. We should be looking at Cawl vs Abbadon instead. The guy hits like a runaway train.
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>>51190795
Okay, but her milkshake brings all the Guard to the yard.
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>>51190624
ew greyfax has a pretty awful wargear list - the condemnor boltgun is garbage
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>>51190830
im all fine with curvy women i just have started to hate that word over time
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>>51190825
Don't forget cawl has a rerollable FnP on top of his 2+, he's not to be even touched unless you have a fuck ton of AP2 or D, even then he's T6 so D doesn't splat him and he gets FnP

So if the spoiler I heard was right then creed was literally the last living person standing on cadia, if that's true that's pretty epic, standing tall on the world he spent his life protecting as he watches it crumble
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>>51190859
yeah, her usefulness pretty much hinges on whether or not the opponent relies on psychic shit
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>>51190881
It kinda comes with being a Witch Hunter (AKA Ordo Hereticus).
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>>51190881
also the anti-psyker part of that weapon is one use only
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>>51190830
>yfw you realise milkshake is a euphemism for handjob
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>>51190881
Luckily I can think of just a few top tier armies and builds that rely on psykers (eldar, almost all all deathstars, daemon summoning)

Also her aura of oppression and rolling twice on the invisibility table isn't to be sniggered at
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>roll out Lysander vs Cawl with Lysander getting +1 attack for charging
>gets toasted turn 2 by Cawl's Mechandrite Hive after taking 3 wounds turn 1
>Cawl came out of it with 4 wounds

kek
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>>51190801
i think so, they arent specialist weapons if i remember right
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>>51190859
It's typical for Inquisitors. They're basically all support pieces that hinge in their utility.
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>>51190825
Do Cawl vs Sigismund, is he robot-man enough to survive against the Emperor's Champion?!.
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>>51190917
Order of the Holy Handjob?
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>>51190825
>>51190870
SCRATCH THAT! I forgot about invuln saves.

Celestine charges every time due to hit n run, so she gets 6 attacks all day erry day. This puts out an average of 5/26 wounds, or 0.19 wounds per turn.

Cawl, with his mechadendrite hive, puts out an average of 1.13 wounds per turn, or 2.26 wounds every two turns, by which time Celestine has replaced a twin.
So it's actually an extremely even match, leaning slightly towards Cawl, but Celestine's tank is more reliable. It could go either way.
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>>51190922
Can't compare, different mediums.

Like saying how does a primer compare to a glaze.
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>>51190939
The EC before he became an EC no less.
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>>51190560
no.73
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>>51190936
nah, look at the daemonhunter hellgun or the xenos conversion beamer, or needle gun - the witchhunter is just got a very limited armory, and for 150 points? it seems too cheap, especially without an invun and at T3
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how does this list look using the new castellan formation?
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>>51190947
Cawl can use the Mechandrite hive and his axe togerther, did you consider that ?
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>>51190797
>>51190825

Twins have a 4++ too, 2 hits from 4 attacks, slightly less than one dead twin. I missed the giant barrage of S4, though, and the fact that the twins only regen once every 2 rounds

I did do Abbadon vs Cawl, and I don't think I missed anything. Abbadabbadoo does about 0.6 wounds per round to Cawl, who regenerates that with plenty of room to spare. Since Abbadon can't regen, he will eventually die from attrition.

>>51190939

Nope, he has ID. Cawl has a 1/9 chance to survive a wound from him.

>>51190947

Remember the regen of D3 every Cawl turn. That's essentially a wound a round, so Celestine can't come close to hurting him.
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>>51190922
They're basically the old GW inks

http://taleofpainters.blogspot.com/2013/08/review-army-painter-warpaints.html?m=1
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>>51190973
do you not get access to inquisitor henchmen?
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>>51190795
>current year
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>>51191010
Heck, I haven't used the gw inks since they were literally called inks. What's the difference between the new Shades and Inks?
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>>51191012
im pretty sure you do. would you reccommend bringing some over the bikes?
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>>51190984
Yes. With just the axe he averages 3/4 wounds. The hive averages 7/18 wounds.
>>51190992
I accounted for Regen. He averages 2 wounds a turn, which is more than she puts out. At MINIMUM it's more than she puts out.

In all honesty because of his regeneration and her ability to resurrect the fight is likely to go on for the full length of the game. Unless Celestine's player has some s10ap2 on the field she's done the right thing by tying down Cawl.
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>>51191049
>Cawl is T6
S10 won't do it, you'll need Instant Death USR. Beast Hunter shells or similar. He's basically as tough as a Riptide.
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>>51191041
I'm not sure, but its easy and cheap access to three plasma guns and a psyker :D
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>>51191049
>In all honesty because of his regeneration and her ability to resurrect the fight is likely to go on for the full length of the game

Today i played with cawl vs Celestine and it took well over an hour for me to kill her, we didnt use any other units
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>>51191049
True, and on average it takes 21 (well, 20.25) S10 AP2/1 hits to kill the guy, so probably a good call. Thing is, they have the same point cost, and Cawl can continue buffing while he is reasonably safe in the combat, so that's possibly doing me a favour. Denies me that sexy Railgun Melta and the Arc Claw+1 thing, though.
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>>51190162
rolling for something like pic related (dark with neon highlights, not necessarily green)
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>>51191030
Shades have a stronger color and duller finish. The inks can get glossy, particularly if you apply multiple coats. But they tend to not darken the overall color as much.
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>>51190917
This is news to me
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>>51191109
well, thanks god i have 21 Vindicator and Leman russ demolisher to kill him in a single round ( statistically )
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>>51191109
Celestine's buff can also be done in-combat, and she can hit n run out of the fight every SoB turn to let cawl be shot at.
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>>51191049
>>51191093
Plus she has Hit and Run. So she could leave whenever she liked. Celestine may not be the killiest thing in the 41st millennium, but she's the ultimate distraction.
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>>51191083
Force weapons (Daemonhammer).
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>>51191122
Hm. My issue is that there's not a GW near me really, and shipping is crazy from gw's site. It's like 15 bucks, if I recall. So I planned on getting a bunch of Reaper Master paints and a couple army painter washes online, where shipping isn't nearly as bad.
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>>51190289
Autohavocs, Raptors and a Heldrake, because they're dead sexy.
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So, what's the best way to instant-death Cawl?
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warhammer 40k tabletop newfag here

tomorrow I am going to have my first fight, what tactic should I use?

its 2v2, I play Blood Angels: 10 troopers, 5 jetpack Death Company energy weapons, Terminator captain, furioso dreadnought and baal predator, ally has MTS and enemy no idea.
Should i just rush them in da face and kick their ass in first rounds of charge?
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>>51191158
Thought they only had ID vs daemons. Daemonhammers I mean.
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>>51191156
i think she isnt only a big distraction, she is also a space marine killer, due to having quite a few ap 3 attacks
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>>51191163
They'll work fine. As long as you're consistent in the paints you use across and army it will look great. I used the old GW inks for many years.
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>>51191186
It's a Force Weapon. When active it has ID vs everyone.
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>>51190726
https://www.dropbox.com/s/fftgd9ojwwhjyni/Fall%20of%20Cadia.pdf?dl=0
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>>51190922
The blue is a hell of a light lighter than GW's drakenhof, while the red has less of a pinkish tint than the GW one. Get those one if you want lighter blue wash/more solid red wash.
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>>51191181
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Had my second battle ever with my Emperor's Children army; Children of the Dragon.
My opponent was Tau. Deployment was along short edges. Kill Points. 1,000 Point armies

His army is in picture.

My armyIs next picture heavy on the Proxy Models. Still waiting for the Bikers to come in.

The His warlord trait was Ghost who walks among us.
Mine gave me a +1 attack for ever wound I lost.

I seized the Initiative, and killed a broad side with my best rolls of the whole game when 8 auto cannon shots hit the thing and 7 wounded.
That was First Blood for me, and a kill point. Making it 2 zip.
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>>51191208
Well, I was mostly needing a nuln oil and agrax earthshade replacement, not so much the other inks.
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>>51191148
True. Still not particularly worried, SoB have fuck all that can reasonably take down this guy apart from a fuckload of Melta, and if they want to direct that much at my 200pt HQ feel free.

>>51191156
Yeah, that she is. Thing is, with smart use of firepower she will die to gunfire. Lasguns and bolters suffice for the Twins, and there's only so many 4+ saves a T3 body can make (especially if you're me, I have terrible luck with KatDs and Skitarii).

>>51191174

Available to almost everyone, Enfeeble then S10. Nurgle has all the options ever if you wnat him dead THAT badly.

Oddly, Tau have little ID weapons. Pretty much the D missiles from can get him, and that's it.
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>>51191221
And I forgot the picture
His army
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>>51191229
How about that's Tzeentch power that turns people into Spawn?
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>>51191237
What piece of rat garbage brings a Riptide to 1000 points.
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I love Conrad Curze's figurine from ForgeWorld and would love to play him as a chaos lord in 40k games.

How should I proceed with thinking about a Night Lords army build since the supplement Traitor Legions was released last month?

Thanks for the tips.
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>>51191174
Force Axe. Or any other AP2 ID melee weapon.
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>>51191248
Meh, I know someone that brings a wolfstar fully kitted as low as 1200 pts

I let him do it, just means he puts all his eggs in one basket
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>>51191181
Play for the objectives and kick anyone off them, but keep to cover. Depending on who your opponents are, you may have a long slog to the enemy lines.
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>>51191174
Enfeeble or Rad-grenades followed by s10. Instant death USR. that sort of thing.

Guard could probably do it easiest with an ABG Vanquisher. S8AP2 ID blast from 72". Cawl's size makes him easy to hit, even for BS4, and the tank can force him to reroll whatever cover save he has. Blast can also asking multiple wounds, making LoS! harder to use.
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>>51191248
Someone with a tiny dick and rape fetish?
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>>51191181
just roll 6s
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>>51191174
Ironically, Black Templars have a decent chance of killing him by using an Emperor's Champion and giving as many attacks to him as possible in a melee deathstar. It's well possible to get that guy 5 attacks, maybe even 6 somehow. With re-rolls on To Hits and ID on any 6s rolled, chances for a kill aren't bad.
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What is the consensus on necron vehicles?
I mean specifically the obelisk, monolith and tesseract vault, do they see play? Are they worth getting? Or do they buckle to the shit people pull nowadays?
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>>51191331
R A N D O M N E S S
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>>51191353
E X P L A I N
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Wait, how does that "Celestine kiting until winning through attrition" tactic work that was used to mathhammer Abbaddon to death?

Declare a challenge with a Geminae, fight the challenge, maybe get a wound through, allocate overfilled wounds to the other Geminae, disengage from combat, revive a Geminae, shoot Abbaddon to maybe land a pot-shot, charge him, smash him a lot, rinse and repeat or what was it?
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Anyone know a good way to run castellan detachment without Coteaz?
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>>51191278
But that would also require him to be at the front of the unit, which he never is. He's going to be buried in the middle of a Vanguard unit.
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>>51191248
>Arrange a silly, four player Carnage game
>Tau player brings two Optimised Stealth Cadres
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>>51191221
Turns 2-3 nothing much happened he focused on trying to kill the bike squad with my lord and banner of excess in it. Managed to kill the Champion of that squad. Lucky for him to, that lightning claw had Fleshbane. His commander deep stuck in took pot shots at the bikers and killed the melta gunners.
Next turn my terminators desicided to show up to Dropped in next to that Riptide. They open fire and the commander used his melta on the combo-melta...to miss horribly...
Last turn (4) hits and store is about to close I have my spawn in position as well as my lord (who now has 10 attacks in melee on the charge. He Rushes forward and the other bikers follow him....
After he has the spawn charge first and it draws down all but 1 unit's over watch. The last unit opens fire and most of their shots miss, but one lucky Tau bastard took off his last wound.
The rest of the squad rushes forward. Combat bogs down. His turn, no one dies, but a battelsuit takes a wound from my bikers. Game ended 2-2 a tie.

Something I would do differently: Use the Rhinos to screen the Bikers as they advance so they have cover till they can get up on the target. Also MC's are a bitch in 1,000 points.
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>>51191377
geminae aren't characters, they can't declare challenges
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>>51191386
easy, three players kill the tau, then they all fight after
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>>51191389
use more terrain
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>>51191278
For math purposes, assuming Cawl has a base of around 40mm, a BS4 small blast will hit him about 75% of the time.

1/3 direct hit
Bs4
Base radius between 1 and 2 inches
Blast radius between 1 and 2 inches
Total 'reduction' in scatter of about 6 inches.

2d6 has a 41% chance of rolling a 6 or less. Combined with the 33% chance of a direct hit this makes a 75% chance of touching Cawl's base, which will hit him.

>>51191384
In the case of Cawl being in a group this will actually work to his disadvantage, since a blast weapon is MORE likely to hit a crowd, and score multiple s8ap2 hits to boot. Granted, a big enough blob can simply not care and tank all the hits, but it's something to consider.
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>>51191386
Tau players like that have made me not want to even collect the Tau models I think are cool.

Which is a shame because I love me some motherfucking Breachers.
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>>51191248
I didn't think two hard about it because I brought Melta Spam after my loss to Elder at 1,000 points and that guys 3 Wave Serpents.
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>>51191389
That is not enough terrain. If it won't cover a quarter of the board, it's nowhere near enough.
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>>51191426
cawl is on a much bigger base, he's on the large oval base
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>>51191298
but anon i dont play tau
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>>51190702

What do Bombs do against 2+? Creatures and Walkers, yes, but not other characters. I figured the Champ can make up for the lord, so I guess and Axe/Fist?
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>>51191390
>Jump infantry (Character)

If you're not going to bother reading the fucking datasheet, why enter your opinions?
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>>51191390
But they are. Their Profile says Character.
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>>51191429
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>>51191255
Daemon Prince of nurgle and the 1d6 attacks claws have almost the same profile and curze. I like the stormplate tzeentch daemon built myself however.
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>>51191455
>>51191462

and today we learned that anon is illiterate
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This is showing up as completely sold out on GW, as is Kairos and Lord of Change in preparation for the new release. Are we getting a new Burning Chariot kit as well?
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>>51191248

I'll now 2 list variants for whenever I play Tau faggots, If I see a riptide, Cawl is going down, otherwise it's regular list.
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>>51191455
The funny part is that they aren't Independent characeters so the anon that said they pass LoS on 2+ was wrong. So D has a better chance to kill celestine now
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>>51191485
sounds reasonable
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>>51191441
I dunno the radius of that but because of the way the numbers work it'd need to be a 4 inches wide or more to make a difference. Scatter occurs in inch-wide 'steps', so he'd have to have a radius of more than 2 inches to change the result.
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>>51191489
Uh oh, another anon that can't read
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>>51191485
Yup, that's how I figure. Play for fun, or play to win. Always prepare for both.
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>>51191425
>>51191437
Okay good to know. I thought that was pretty heavy on terrain. but next time more buildings. That photo by the way is pretty much the whole board, where the blue line is is the edge of the playing field. The other side was for reserves and casualties.
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>>51191429
easy, just play infantry/tanks only tau
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>>51191489
So is Celestine the only non-Independent character that is allowed to join and leave units at will?
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>>51191506
it's definitely 4 inches long, but it's still 2 inches wide, which rapes your scatter calculation because now you have to partition down into 15 degree increments because it's not a circle
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>>51191472
>not posting the superior version to shame xeno lovers
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>>51191248
Bet they had the standard taufag mentality
>I'm not bringing the most competitive loadout on my broadsides so that means I get to treat myself to a riptide, otherwise it wouldn't be fair
I mean he likely even paid the WHOLE 5 points for those TL plasma guns!
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>>51191531
But I like the Stealth Suits (both big and little) too.

At least I don't want to run the Riptide though, right?
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>>51191520
>>51191539
But they aren't? the twins that is

captcha: reading cbre kek
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>>51191520
No, he has a point there, the datasheet I have lists her as a character, not an independent character, but with the ability through a special rule to join and leave units with her groupies.
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>>51191562
>But I like Suits too
I'm afraid it's terminal.
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>>51191524
Even then, it looks like you're a bit light on it. 25% is basically the minimum. Usually it's recommended that you go even higher. Try to get about a third of the area of the board choked up with it if you can. It really only makes games better, as it requires more thought be put into positioning and prevents cannons and gunlines from dominating as hard.

Make sure there's a lot that blocks Line of Sight as well. Don't just use a couple buildings and a mass of rubble.
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>>51191563
LoS is based from the person who originally takes the hit, not the one who you are transferring the wound to.

Unless for some odd reason you wanted to LoS from a Gemini onto Celestine.
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>>51191478
people have been buying it for the heralds and the discs post WoM
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>>51191544
No, we can say that the radius varies between those two extremes. The average is going to be 3 inches, which falls into the 75% categoey, while the maximum is in the step higher, which gives about a 91% chance to hit.
Since the long-axis scatter only occurs in about 15% of all scatter cases (due to the shape of the nase) we get a slight weighting of the results above the original esimate.

In short, it goes to just over 80%, or effectively a BS5 shot.
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>>51191565
I was being a cunt because they are bodyguards and wounds instantly jump to them, no LoS! Needed, so it's much harder to 6 her out with The big ol D

>guess I should have been a little more civil, /tg/ is a place for gentlemen
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>>51191384
>middle of a Vanguard unit.
So his T6 means shit because Majority Toughness 3. I deal with him the same way.
Flickering Fire and Warpflare to kill his unit. Then, when he's alone, Fateweaver drops the D.
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>>51191592
I know. That's why I don't touch Tau. Some of the stuff I like is cheesedick broken and I feel bad for wanting to have it as an army.

Same reason my Death Guard won't leave their army case anymore too.
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>>51190162
ELEVEN BARRELS!
ELEVEN BARRELS OF HEEEEEEEEEEEEEELL!
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>>51191599
Hm seems i was wrong
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>>51191565
But anon >>51190624 says Celestine is an Independent Character, so yeah Celestine is the only IC that can join units while being part of another unit already. Its a cool rule.
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>>51191628
Okay then, have him replace the Dominus in a Cybernetica Cohort. Now he's surrounded by fuckers as strong as him, and he can give them triple IWND or upgrade their invun.
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>>51191593
Good to know. having a bit more cover to work with would have helped keep my lord and bikers alive. Which would have let that blender unit do their thing.
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>>51190277
Nah, no plastic model.

Celestine looked at him and his arms fell off. GW decided he didn't deserve a new model.
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>>51190162
Is this what happens when leman Russes get /fit/?
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>>51191644
Why would you think the person doing a LoS would have to be a character, or an independent character for the 2+?

That's like the opposite of how it works, it's mooks jumping in front of their boss to take the hit. Anyone can do it.
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>>51191681
because when i read the rules where it says that a model can attempt a LoS it seems to be worded as if another model in the unit is taking the test.
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>>51191660
Also, give one of the datasmiths the "instant skyfire, just add water" relic and shoot your birdy out of the sky.
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>>51191678
Do lots of squats for extra rear AV anon!
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>>51191676
>Celestine looked at him and his arms fell off. GW decided he didn't deserve a new model.

>needed to be saved by creed

>celestine won

lmao white knight beta kek cuck
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>>51191713
You're the first person I've seen to make that mistake. It's worded pretty clearly. And the intent is obvious as well.
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>>51191628
>>51191660

If we're discussing stupidly deathstary ways to keep him safe, I vote a Custodes squad with three Shields. EW bodyguards who are Characters that can take challenges.

>>51191631

Anon, Death Guard aren't that bad, they're just tough I've tied with them three consecutive times with my non-WarConvo and non-Cawl (obviously) Admech, AFAIK they're top side of decent. I like playing them, it's straightforward.
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>>51191534
Fucking TANITH

The Tanith were at Cadia!
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>>51191730
He gets snuck up on by a completely powerless Celestine and gets shanked in the back which in his words was the most painful thing he had ever suffered. He had to run like a bitch leaving all the people he was fighting (Minus Kell, RIP you glorious fucker) alive.
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>>51191610
I don't mean "currently out of stock", I mean like.. sold out. Forever. Unavailable.
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>>51191757
They keep getting more and more out of control when compared to the rest of the CSM dex. I feel like a cheesedicking bastard for running the clearly best option out of a codex over everything else, even if it's not the truth.

I just hate being "that guy" who ruins games by doing stupid shit for an edge.

Besides, it's more fun to break the meta by running something the meta doesn't compensate for and watch your opponent develop a twitch.
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>>51191229
>Oddly, Tau have little ID weapons. Pretty much the D missiles from can get him, and that's it.

Darkstrider firing a railcannon gunrig.
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>>51191750
eh guess im just an idiot
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>>51191730
Read the battle report from this month's WD and stop jerking your tic-tac dick to Chaos' worst cuck.

Even disregarding that, Abaddon is a raging retard who stopped to give a monologue instead of getting the job done.

I don't care if you hate Celestine, liking Abaddon automatically makes you a raging tardlet.
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>>51191647
Nah. The GSC Broodcoven can do that.
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>>51191771
Yup, Trayzn had everything from Heresy era Ultramarines to Vostroyan snipers to fucking Tanith "The other guys who weren't the first or only".

Then they all die so nothing comes of it.
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Hello. It's the guy whose local TO decided to ban the Cadia Supplement since Cadia is no more. Turns out it was all a trick on me to see if they could finally break me into starting a different army. So yeah. They lied to me because they wanted me to spend money I do not have on a second army I do not want just because they're tired of me bringing Astra Militarum all the time.
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I'm a returning Tau player (I stopped playing in 4th edition, first Tau codex) and trying to build a 1500pt list to beat "that guy" at my local shop, I dont have anymore riptides, but I was wondering if I have overkilled it with markerlights. I'm not sure how many a 1500pt army needs. I have a few more crisis suits and fire warriors to swap in if I spent too much on upgrades.
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>>51191820
I guess it must have been Tanith before Tanith got destroyed. I bet he showed up during the Chos invasion and stole some.
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>>51191831
fucking knew it was a joke
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Shiiiiiiiiiit, now I have to find 65 points to do a saint celestine switcheroo in my SoB list. Still, new clestine is worth so, so much more than the 200pts shes asks even in a pure SoB list.
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>>51191831
Wow, if you can find another group to play with, I would recommend doing that.

Because those guys sounds like Exterminatus grade cunts.
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>>51191831
Fuck em! The Guard Stands!
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>>51191729
What's Celestine's rear AV?
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>>51191660
Now THAT is scary

>It's what I'd do.
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>>51191872
You can only break it with the D. :^)
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>>51191850
Ld10 War Hymns is a steal without adding all the extra shit she can do. Nearly guaranteed Priest buffs on guard blobs or even sister blobs would be ace.
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>>51191453
It was a typo. See the other reply to that post. Rending means you aren't totally dead to AP2, but you'll still struggle vs. them. The Melta is for dealing with higher AV, particularly Walkers.

As I said it's fine if you really want the gear, but from pure effectiveness PF/LC is better.
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>>51191859
I do not drive, nor do I know how to drive. So I'm kinda stuck playing at this local shop.

On a side note, someone else at the shop is giving me a bunch of Astra Militarum stuff he doesn't want and all I have to give him in return is the ten Tempestus Scions models I don't want.
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>>51191522
its fun to win . is everyone here miserable at the game? "oh no 200pts in a 1k game wrapped up in an hq i auto lose"
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>>51191906
War Hymns only test on the model's LD, not the unit's. Do you mean her Miracles instead?
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>>51191862
I love it how they were still fighting on the shards of the broken planet before it finally got dragged into the eye. Even when Cadia is no longer a thing, when all their allies have left them. Cadians still stand
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>>51191906

>Ld10 War Hymns is a steal

C:AS celestine already does this.

>>51191933

Its her warlord trait.
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>>51191771
Where does it say that?
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>>51191933
Read her warlord trait, AoF and War Hymns test at her Ld within 12" of her
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So my order of metal daemonettes just came in from Ebay and I realize that I made a terrible mistake: Some models are missing the knife-arms. I've got 12 claw arms and 12 models without anything.

I have the putty and greenstuff to make new claw arms, but I don't know if they attach to metal well and I won't have any blade arms. I can't find any bits on ebay either. How should I fix this?
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>>51191181
just a few pointers
-they are jumppack not jetpack (Important because thats a different entry in the rulebook)
-never say energy weapons (power weapons?) say which ones, i.e. axe, maul as those differ too.

you could try to advance with the baal midfield, keepin your deathcompany behind it to cover them.
split marine squad to 2 five dudes, the heavy weapon one stands on top your home objective, if there is one, otherwise place them in cover. Except when your heavy weapon is a flamer, then you should advance as well, but keep in cover
Terminator captain goes to other marines and tries to take some object on the sides, or flanks somewhere, maybe the furioso too.
Except the deathcompany to die
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>>51191943
Describing what comes out of the Tesseract, Snipers of long dead Tanith.
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>>51191551
what's the difference?
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>>51191959
complain to ebay and get your money back
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>>51191938
>>51191948
Oh, right. Her WT Trait. I forgot because she was never in 12" of a Priest. And when using her with Seraphim she tested their Shred rule on LD10 so it rarely mattered (LD10 with a reroll no less).

That aside, they broke her Seraphim bus usage. She doesn't have AoF so she prevents Seraphim from using their AoF.
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Hey anons, what's a fluffy way to equip an Ultramarines tac squad?

10 man with power sword, and Flamer or Plasma gun?
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>>51191966
Of course Trazyn would take a few people from a dying world as a memorial to that world's demise.
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Reposting from old thread:
Hey guys I'm new to 40k.
What are the basic differences between the different marine chapters? (Or there actually differences?)

I'd like to get a Start Collecting! box and deathwatch looks pretty interesting. What is their playstyle like? I tried googling it but i did not gain any useful information
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>>51191959
Get some plastic Daemonettes and convert using their arms/claws.
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>>51191988
It was my mistake, the description was pretty clear and I jumped the gun. I also got a fantastic deal on the things and I don't want to screw the guy out of his money

Will greenstuff attach to metal though?
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>>51191803
Possibly true, but there's a great many armies that can go toe to toe in a fun game. You feel so bad about it, talk to your group and maybe take some actual Plague Marines to tone it down somewhat, but I maintain you don't have to. My friend has been playing Nurgle for years and we recently had to talk him out of shelving his favourite army because it was suddenly decent-to-good. Don't do that to your dudes, anon. They'll do just fine.
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>>51191862
Comrade, we Guard

They penetrate our orbital blockade
We defenders

They destroy our fortresses
We front lines

They breach our lines
We partisans

They break our planet
We heroes
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>>51191999
Any of the Codex options would be equally fluffy aside from Grav.
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>>51192030
I was running actual Plague Marines but every new book they keep getting buffs. I basically just feel guilty over it and can't put them on the table and have fun.

Plus that army was built for 5th so it needs updating.
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So guys i was invited to join the one world society and i think im going to give it a shot sounds better than the life i live right now
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>>51191377
Wouldn't it be smarter to issue the challenge with Celestine? You get to allocate wounds inflicted on Celestine on the Geminae anyway, so it'd be better to use Celestine's higher WS.
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>>51192017
deathwatch is specialist, and a very different marine chapter in terms of structure -

Generally for normal chapters you have vanilla chapters from the base codex (Ultramarines etc), then you have the chapters with their own codex lke Blood Angels which tend to be even more different, sometimes with unique units

Then you have like the wulfen or deathwatch or grey knights which are very very different with several unique units and playstyles

For the most part its Lore and Colorstyles and some small gameplay buffs, so my advice is to play something you think is neat
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>>51192026
you should ask in WIP those dudes know everything
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>>51192056
What is this?
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Your time is out you saw too much
You used the silver key
You know too well that minds like yours
Can never rest in peace
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>>51191808
True, but a character and his squad, on an immobile gun that has actually got an AV for once so I can haywire it? Probably not worth for the one shot I can Look Out Sir away. I'm assuming it's the S10 AP1 1 shot railgun, if not, oops.
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So what do I do with my Cadians now? They're homeless

>they are holding banners to fight for a Broken world
>Pask can't kill titans with his leman Russ for his planets glory
>my creed model is Pepsi

There are literally billions of cadians scattared across the galaxy, how can they keep fighting when they don't even have a home to fight for?
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>>51192017
Codex are standard. There are traits that can bend them too though. Imperial Fists like bolters and heavy weapons for example. Codex Marines also have the best army formations.

Dark Angels are basically just codex Marines with some unique specialist units.

Blood Angels have an assault oriented flavor across the whole army.

Space Wolves have tons of minor differences from codex Marines but their money-makers are a pair of incredibly lethal assault specialist units.

Deathwatch are all veterans and have access to the most gear options. In practice the army is weaker than normal Marines though since they're much more expensive and die just as easily.
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>>51191534
So who is the metal giant at the end with Creed? Trazyn?
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>>51192137
What are Tanith First and Only?

Fight for it's memory and so it doesn't happen again to anyone else.
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>>51192137
There are plenty of Cadians left. Plus it's not like you're the first homeless Guard. Tanith supplemented their numbers by accepting recruits Space Marine style from planets they campaigned on.

Plus there are other systems close to Cadia they can settle instead.
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Does anyone know where the Imperial Guard Armoured Battlegroup rules are? I have a Cawl and his buffs, lots of Tau on the field, a need for some Instant Death and I realised that Beast-hunter shells exist. What's a good allied detachment I can take? One command tank Vanquisher and another Russ as troop? What should I make that one?
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>>51192026
>Will greenstuff attach to metal though?
Yes. But, If you feel the join is to weak you can just wait for the GS to cure, pull off the piece and the superglue it back on.
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>>51192137
They fight to do the Emperors duty Anon.

We die standing.
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>>51192194
Imperial Armour Volume 1 (2nd Edition)

Its near the end of the book.
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>>51192158
Consensus is Trazyn.
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>>51192158
>Who is the metal giant at the end with Creed?
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>>51192226
Why thank you Sir.
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>>51192158
VULKAN LIVES!
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>>51192116
I dont know they just sent me a flyer and said that they will bring me closer to the God-Emperor though i did hear mention that he had 4 arms
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I have see eldar boxes today, although I have not been able to make any photos, I have not been alone while leaving the boxes from the truck, but while working on the truck, they opened some

Asdrubael Vect it's on a grav plataform and the platform looks like the image of rumour engine, the same box also brings 2 incubi but are very different from the current ones as with thicker armor, but none of the 3 miniatures look like the image of the red eldar of fall of cadia.

There were other boxes containing larger boxes inside, but I've only seen a little piece of the side, in which an female eldar in a yellow and blue gown with the name ...of Iyanden (I could not see it all) under the portrait, the box was large so i guess that will contain more miniatures since it is bigger than the box of vect.
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Could someone point me to a location where I can download the Deathwatch codex?

I've looked through the mega's in the OP but I can't seem to find it there.
Although I must admit it is possible that I am a blind faggot and have thus missed it.
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>>51192333
I got it from the first rules link. Don't know if it's still there.
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>>51192324
The only reason I believe you is because pic related from the Rumor Engine articles could be Asdrubael's Grav platform.
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>>51192324
>female eldar in a yellow and blue gown with the name ...of Iyanden (I could not see it all) under the portrait

Iyanna Arienal
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>>51192289
Don't do it, Anon. It's a Xenos Cult!
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>>51192082
>>51192143
thanks guys!
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>>51192388
A-are you sure anon? it seemed like an inviting setting i didn't see anyone with 4 arms there.
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>>51192365
Thanks anon, I missed it in the "freshest rules" link and am as I feared, a blind faggot.

Thanks for the help though!
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>>51191908

Ah ok. I see what you're saying. I shouldn't be throwing them into 2+ anyway, generally speaking. If raptors could take axes like chosen, then sure, why not? It would be sweet if Night Raptors from 30k were a thing in 40k because they're basically jump chosen. Oh well.
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>>51192044
Good point!

Also, I just realized that giving a tac squad both a heavy and a special weapon makes absolutely no sense.
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>>51192422
We all have those moments anon. Glad I could point you in the right direction.

>>51192444
It does if you like to run Combat Squads with Razorbacks.
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>>51192444
it sort of makes sense if you're combat-squadding

also it's anecdotal, but snapfiring missile launchers seem to do better than the rest of the unit

>>51192324
>the return of vect's incubi guards
kinda neat, if true.
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>>51192420
They're talking about a 4 armed emperor, that's heretical enough, isn't it?
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>>51191928
>trying to justify a heavily undercosted rape machine in a small points game
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>>51192444
That's what combat squads are for. Have a 5 man group hang back with the heavy weapon, while another 5 man group goes forward with the special one.

Alternatively, double up on Grav, because Grav is the only special/heavy combo to share a type.
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>>51192444
Heavy Flamers are actually Assault weapons. They're obviously only good at killing infantry, but they're very good at it and don't slow you down.
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So when are the Night Lords gonna get some action in Fall of Cadia? Considering the leaks about the "prophet" it makes sense Decimus will make an appearance, and with all these Eldar mucking about it will give him a chance to enact his plan.

Was Fall of Cadia set from the last NL book? He said the Eldar would play a major role in it and would have to be targeted, and guess what, the Eldar help the triumvirate escape.

>mfw decimus was right the whole time
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Still looking for some advice. Is the 5+ respawning troops really worth it for a Black Tide marine list? I don't plan on spamming LR Crusaders with it, if that changes things.
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>>51192494
>night lords
>getting anything

ahahahahaha no
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>>51190322
Is it acceptable to ask for responses?
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>>51192488
Tac squads can't get Heavy Flamers, outside of Blood Angels. And Blood Angels have their own troubles.
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>>51191534
DAMN! That was just like reading the Fall of Reach and the battle of Hoth combined 10 fold!
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>>51192505
no

but you should build and paint it if you want it
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>>51192459
>>51192472
>>51192479
I guess that makes sense!
>>51192488
I think only Blood Angels can take Heavy Flamers out of all the armies, including CSM?
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>>51192511
They're ADBs pet legion. They'll probably show up if he writes one of the Gathering Storm books.
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>>51190322
>>51192512

Things have actually gone uphill as of late. GW seems to be listening to fans more, and there have been a lot of neat supplements and kits.
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>>51192324
mmmm... old metal vect is very similar
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>>51192529
Like the fact they keep losing most of the chapter every time someone sneezes.

And let's not mention them and Space Hulks.
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>>51192540
Ah yeah, you're right. Legion of the Damned and Sternguard only.
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>>51192512
yeah, sure, why not
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>>51192533
Well, it's mainly a matter of if I'm going to go for a CAD Black Tide, or a Castellan Black Tide. I'm just unsure if the tradeoffs are worth it for needing to include another army alongside them.
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>>51191996
Can always detach her before you want to use it.
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>>51192511
I can only hope, anon.
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>>51192570
>Sternguard
Run Pedro and a 1st company formation in Pods. Congrats, you have Heavy Flamers, Special Ammo and Obj Sec.
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>>51191248

Aren't TEQs allowed in 1000 point games?
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>>51192578
>needing to include another army

you don't need another army, you just need to mix two factions in the formation

you can do that by taking a knight or by taking a 25 point inquisitor

or you can take like 4 or 6 or w/e leman russes
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>>51192581
True, but then the squad loses I7 H&R in the assault phase.
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>>51192593
Nice.
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>>51192610
Yeah, that's what I meant. I'm still torn with how far I'd want to go with it though. The idea of just taking some random cheap tax HQ is lame, but I'm also not a fan of loading up on something that wouldn't fit the fluff.
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>>51192646
A single inquisitor would be a pretty fluffy reason for that, though. Them being present means they can just load on the reinforcements because shit is that important.
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For the last time, Tau suit tech is hyper advanced. There is no distinction between the pilot and the suit. In fact, according to the lore, the Admech dudes don't know where the pilot begins and where the suit starts. They are in perfect unity and tandem. They are a singular (monstrous) creature.
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>>51192672
>Stormsurge

Also, if you pilot it, it's a vehicle. If you wear it, it's armor.
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>>51192646
CRUSADER
KNIGHT

Pros: It's a knight
It crusades, just like the battle brothers
FUCKING HUGE KNIGHT
kicks tau suits in their dickholes

Cons:
you have to build and paint a cool looking knight
(there are no cons you dingus)

CRUSADE FOREVER
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>>51192691
>(there are no cons you dingus)
the con is you're taking a knight
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>>51190560
99 out of respect
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>>51192703
>the con is you're taking a knight
because knights are overpriced?
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>>51192473
Y-you're right anon, ill talk to the commissar tomorrow and see what i can do about this
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>>51192672

How does that effect the back of the Riptide not having a weakspot?
Or all it's attacks being AP2?
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>>51192672
For the last time, Ork Mek tech is super-advanced. There is no distinction between the pilot and the Dread. In fact, according to the lore, the Earth Caste dudes don't know where the boy ends and where the Dread starts. They are in perfect unity and gundam. They are a singular (AV) walker.
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Will this lose me friends?

Castellans Detachment 1250

>HQ
Celestine 200
Veridyan 85

>Troops
4x
Battle Sisters x5 135
HF+Flamer
TLMMolator

>FA
Seraphim x10 180
Hand Flamer x2

Dominions x5
Melta x4
TLMM

>HS
Retributers x10
Heavy Bolter x4
Simulacrum
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>>51192667
I suppose

>>51192691
I already picked up a Knight, though with the points cost on it I don't think I'd be able to bring it into smaller point games while still having the marines in full force.
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r8 muh toys pls
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>>51192735
New copypasta?
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Anyone have any experience with Reaper Master paints? How do they compare to Vallejo and Citadel? Are the metallics any good?
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>>51192757
7/10 not enough manticores and wyverns

>when will blobguard learn they are the untermensch

>but seriously I like it, would give a few guys melta to get through AV14 and just add some more tank busting
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>I've seen some shit
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>>51192672
For the last time, Chaos Warpsmith rituals are hyper advanced. There is no distinction between the entombed and the daemon engine. In fact, according to the lore, the Cryptek dudes don't know where the CSM begins and where the torture-coffin starts. They are in perfect unity and tandem. They are a singular (daemonic) construct.
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>>51192757

Tanks should all have Heavy Flamers on their hull.
Split the Russ squadron.
Might be better to drop the command squad Chimera,and getting an Aegis wall.
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>>51192825
Googly eyes make everything better.
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Is it wise to combine Skitarii + Inquisition?
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>>51192807
They used to be god tier a few years ago, don't know about how they match up with newer paints though.
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>>51192862
I want to know this too. I love the idea of it lore wise.
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>>51192862
Hilariously so if you run a Xenos Inquisitor with Rad Grenades.
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Think dark mech will ever get rules?
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best ranged knight?
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>>51192892
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA-

No.
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>>51192883
does it make sense lore wise?
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>>51192672
'Kay.

Just so y'all know that means my ABG Vanquisher can kill you with a single shot instead of, I dunno, two or three depending on my Vehicle Damage roll.
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Question, if i take a Valkyrie from the imperial agents book, can i start the game with stuff like infantry squads already inside of it? or they have to embark first?
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>>51192892
>Buy Skitarii/Admech guys
>Attach spikes and edgelord shit

Congrats you did it.
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>>51192920
Anyone from the codex can start onboard.
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>>51192892
Yup, some time this year.
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>>51192892
Start praying to FW like the renegade guard players
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>>51192920
if you take the imperial navy detachment, i dont think so - but if you take one as a dedicated transport for the inquisition henchmen group (like in the 6th ed book) then yes
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>>51190660
Why 2d6+1?
I don't see a Dataspike in his gear. Does the Mechadendrite Hive just count as a Dataspike that also adds 2d6?
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>>51192672
Nice pasta tau friends

Now explain why poison hurts your robots
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Is the space odin codex any good?
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>>51192811
There is 4 Autocannons, 3 Lascannons and 3 Meltas, is that not going to be enough anti armour at 1k points? Especially with orders.
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>>51192920

Because of the recent FAQ which intention was to prevent drop pod taxis, nobody can start in a transport outside their detachment.
You'll have to hover your valkyrie in when it arrives from reserves, then embark.
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what is a MEQ?
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>>51191660
At that many points, you can just charge his unit with a Wraithknight and watch them ineffectually slap each other for the rest of the game.
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>>51192970
A Crisis Suit.
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>>51192672
>Admech dudes don't know where the pilot begins and where the suit starts
im pretty sure they have killed enough blue dudes to figure it out
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>>51192970
Marine EQuivilant. T4/3+
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Does anyone have the planet conditions pdf?
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Is the knight lancer guy worth it? Seems like there are better knights for doing what it does. But it's fucking cool looking.
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>>51192965
In my experience I need about 30 rolls of the dice to glance my opponent's vehicle, and that's at BS4.
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>>51192888
>Xenos Inquisitor
with that you are talking about deathwatch?
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>>51192888
radgrenades are fun in just about any army
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>Vect model
>No pleasure barge

Into the fucking garbage it goes
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>>51192965
the way you have it set up i would say no, because auocannons wont do shit to AV13 - your lascannons are all in a single unit which means they get one target per game; and the meltas are all in a single squad with a 12" range, 6" melta range - that sqaud will not cover a board

Your heavy weapons teams would be points better spent on perhaps some single unit squads of multimelta sentinels - or something else even
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>>51192757
Split up the 2 Russ tanks into 2 units, get rid of the spare 10 Guardsmen and get a Priest for the blob to make them hold still. That's 25 points left. I would get a Master of Ordnance or give the Infantry Squads and PCS some special weapons like Flamers or Grenade Launchers.
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>>51192888
eradication beamer and conversion beamer sounds like a lot of fun, but truth is, the conversion beamer is TOO long range
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>>51192966
damn, im trying to refine that krieg list i posted earlier, and i had the idea to replace that enormous point sink that was the executioner with a squad of grenadiers on valkyrie. too bad now i have to think how to fill 250 points.
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>>51192987
Ohhh, that's pretty. Never seen that art of him before.
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>>51193041
>implying the very first conversion on the internet won't be him on a new style raider
come on
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>>51193071
t. vatborn
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>>51193041
>Wanting Vect
>Not glorious Malys

Gettouta here kabalite scum this is what happens when Trueborn don't rule
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>>51192903
Dual Gatling Renegades.
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>>51193093
t. Trueborn shutter that can't make the cut

Lel
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>>51193133
I am should of specified that i am loyal the imperium you heretic
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>>51192915
Yeah man, you can angle it as a high ranking Inquisitor co-opting an exploratory fleet.

Or a low ranking one tagging along with one.

Happens in books often enough.
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>>51192987
looks like red eldar but without horns
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>>51192966
>>51193071

Waaaaaait, now that im thinking about it, the detachment is just an officer of the fleet and the valk... Does that mean that they can only transport one single model?
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>>51193160
Armor plating is very different.
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>>51192987
Where is it from?
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>>51193160
CRONE WORLD ELDAR
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>>51193169
No
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>>51190087
I always get a little worried about using the Executioner outside of Pask's unit. Would a normal Battle Tank be better?
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>>51193205
then i dont think i understand, sorry
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>>51193194
the rumor puts them as a pre-split eldar, and the book fluff saying their armor is a mix of the two (CWE/DE) styles supports that

kinda like how inquisitor fox and magos many tiny limbs are pre-40k imperials
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>>51193224
Don't use LRBTs. If you want a pie plate grab an Eradicator. The gun isn't Ordnance and S6, AP4, ignore cover is often as effective or more effective and S8 AP3. Cheaper too.
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>>51193143
that pugilistic attitude will serve you well when you are shielding my pleasure barge from bolter rounds
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I finished my first tactical squad!

What do you think /tg/?
Care to post some of your work?
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>>51193271
I find the Battle Tank to be pretty solid. Though I guess if you took the Eradicator and Plasma Cannon Sponsons you could put out similar or more damage for the same price.
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>>51193270
that;s pretty cool actually
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>>51193301
I recommend paint
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>>51193301
>Assembled before painting

You're going to quickly find out why that wasn't the best idea
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>>51193301
could use some paint :^)
This is my most recent unit
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>>51193301

Good use of tabards to hide the stupid plastic splayed leg poses. Good use of beaky heads. A couple of the bolter angles are retarded but those will get better with experience. It's nice that BA have such fancy kits for tacticals and terminators, it puts them on par with GK, DA, SW, etc who also get fancy unique parts. It would be cool if every chapter could have this but there's already too much marine stuff in the game and at least GW makes plastic upgrade kits for the major chapters.
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BBBZZZZzzzzzzzz

bzzzZZZZZZZZZZ
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Should I sell my secondary armies and wait to see what 8th edition is before getting back in?
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>>51193393

I think it's a good idea to sell all your spare armies and focus on one, maybe two for variety, lending to friends, introducing new players to the game with your second army, messing around by yourself at home, but I would actually wait and see how it pans out to see which army you'd want to keep.

You might do something like keep one army and sell the rest, then have all those armies be amazing in 8E and your chosen army suck.

You should usually choose your army based on preferences rather than rules though.
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WHY ARENT WE PURING BROTHERS
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>>51193437
My main army is Orks. I absolutely love the fluff, the models, i love painting and converting them. But I fucking hate their rules and I hate playing them
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>>51193467
whew
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>>51193296
>Actually letting Mon-Keith hit your Raider

How have the Haemonculus not gotten to you yet
>>
>>51193467

Because no-one does pickup games above 2k, you imbecile.
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>>51193467
*Notices your low model count* OwO what's this?! (Guard/eldar/marines/DEldar/admech/most other armies that can easily pop multiple land raiders open turn one Open RP)
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>>51193467
>Crusader over Gallent
>Not using left over points to buy better melee weapons

Do you even crusade bro?
>>
Is there any way to siphon elf souls back out of Slaanesh?
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>>51192964
No
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>>51193544
N-no i usually drink blood and hang out and cry
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>>51193467
Because the templars were wiped out at cadia. Didnt you know?
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>>51193327
>>51193336
*finished building

>>51193341
Aligning the bolter hands was a nightmare so I tried to disguise it with "action poses", sort of.
What the fuck does part 7A-7D mean when most of the arms are in the 50-70 range?
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>>51193576
Wasn't that only part of them?
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>>51193547
Kick Slaanesh in the stomach.
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>>51193386
Looks illegal my brother, death jesters are not allowed in a serpents brood.

As amazing as skystride sounds it's very impractical, it's better just to run a masque.
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>>51193547
Is there any way to get that hamburger out of your stomach intact?
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>>51193576
>wiped out
>when Helbrecht has the primary fleet in his crusade hunting Ghaz
>>
A 600-700 out of a codex compliant chapter of 1000
>>
So what is the difference between male and female Eldar?

[Spoiler]Is it feminine penis?[/spoiler]
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>>51193729
>Ghaz
What has Ghazzy been doing lately? What do we expect to happen to him during the end times?
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>>51193816
End times not happening. Stop being that faggot.
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>>51193271
>not just taking a Wyvern
Get out. Now.
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>>51193844
>wyvern

Embrace faggotry and bring three, or two squads of 2 if your HS slots can handle it
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>>51193844
>Not using the penis extending Basilisk like some old beard faggot
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Hey /40kg/ new-ish player here. well, not new, but sold my old army and started a new one, going from chaos daemons (mostly khorne and melee army) to Imperial guard (fucktonne 'o' shooting army) so i'd quite like some advice. How do I beat grey knights with the start collecting pack, nork deddog and two ogryns, if it's even possible. Essentially, these are our lists, mostly naked.

Imperial guard: 400 pts total
1 Officio Prefectus commissar w/ Bolt Pistol and Powersword
1 unit of Cadian Shock troops
1 Leman Russ Vanquisher
1 Nork Deddog
1 unit Ogryns

Grey Knights: total points 595 (I think)
1 Kaldor Draigo (I know...)
1 Unit of Paladins

Any Idea what I can fill the gaps with upgrade wise, and any general tips on how to beat them?
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>>51193831
>cadia explodes
>black crusade spilling out of the eye
>Entire marine chapter wiped out
>Not End Tmes
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>>51193862
One Wyvern will do its job but is counter-able if your opponent puts effort into it. Anyone who complains about one Wyvern either plays Orks or is a fool.

Two wyverns stands a very solid chance of making back its points before your opponent had a chance to do anything about it, and is a bit like bringing multiple riptides. A BIT. I felt sick just writing that.

3 wyverns is playing a power list, I sugar as Guard can actually do that. It's also overkill, since most targets won't survive two.
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>>51193862
Take faggotry up the ass raw and play castellan detachment: 18 wyverns. Fuck you and your everything that S4 can hurt.
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>>51193831
GW themselves called it end times.
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>>51193898
>insomuch as Guard can actually do that
God-Emperor, autocorrect, I should have you shot.
>>
>>51192964
>>51193551
It's good for a fan piece of work. Other fan books have art & stuff that almost looks professional. Most of the shit he lifted from older Ork codexes and kept some of the (rare) new good stuff. It can be pretty OP if you're a dick with it, but at least it doesn't have Eldar or Wulfen-level Gorgonzola.
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>>51193684
Yeah, through the ribcage.
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>>51192978
It's someone forcing new pasta, m8.
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>>51193898
while the commisar takes care of autocorrect i agreee three is usually overkill unless you're trying to take down 2+ or something with FNP and a decent save like wulfin

i see a lot of really power gamer players use 2 squads of 2 to delete two infantry units a turn since they are just so cheap its what i do if my local tourney scene wasn't set up in a way that would make that harder

usually your CAD HS is pretty open since formations will probably be what all your tanks or artillery is in
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>>51193884
A CHAPTER WASN'T WIPED OUT, ONLY A CRUSADE WAS WIPED OUT AAAAAAAAA
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>>51193884
One Crusade of a minimum of four(upwards to a dozen) was wiped out. That may not even had been a full company's worth of Templars.

Outside fluff Roundtree isn't a fuck like Kirby and 40k is doing pretty damn good. GW will only have incentive to kill it when it goes as poorly in sales as WFB.

So yeah, you're still being fucking retarded.
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>>51193933
What other alternatives do I have for orks?
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>>51193917
Nope, Time of Ending. That's been going on since 5th.
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>>51193917
"Time of Ending" which had been used since FIFTH edition.

This is nothing new, just another level of "shit just got serious/personal" that makes up the plot of 40k.
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>>51193938
>punch a man through the ribcage
>pull out a perfectly intact and whole burger (still steaming)
>eat it with a smile as they bleed out in the floor

>>51193898
whats everyones wyvern record?
>mine is 61 wounds
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>>51193884
>abbadons army can no longer use cadia as a beach head because it fucking exploded
he'll still have a fucking hard slog of it dude.
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>>51194007
There is only one crusade/chapter post retcon.

Templars are squatted!
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>>51194016
They may not have been wiped out, but they were trimmed down to where they will never get individual rules or attention ever again. That was the point of it.
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>>51194050
Eye of Terror is expanding. Won't be Abigail that does the Imperium in, it'll be the daemons.
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>>51194052
it's one codex compliant chapter which is still divided into crusades
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>>51194076
No no, don't worry my dude!

Once amy the armless sits on the golden throne he'll be be so powerful he can just shut the door on chaos and defeat it forever!

All his chaos worshiping space marines, who are completely loyal to him and not the gods they worship, will then help him rule the new Imperium with a fair and steady hand.
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>>51194052
Quite being a retard. Helbretch and Grimuldus are still road tripping with Yarrick in pursuit of Ghaz. They weren't even mentioned in FoC.

Crusades are the Templars equiv to other chapter's Companies only more ad-hoc in organization and need.

>>51194059
Which is why they're the Marine focused in the Wrathful Crusade list and can be taken in the Castellan detachment? Or why they're the only named Marine HQs in the Castellan?
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>>51193884

We don't know Abaddon didn't inflict serious losses on his own army bringing that to pass.

As I understand it, one of his best commanders was banished back to the Warp after Celestine struck him down.

He also still has to knock out targets like Belis Corona and Agrippina.
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>>51194050
What the fuck do they need a beachhead for with interstellar warp ships?
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>>51193875
Well, you can't take Nork with Ogryns. Nork is a Company Command Squad upgrade.

The start collecting formation that you're using is its own formation, so to add anything else, you would need another formation that is either a CAD or something else. I would recommend buying another Start Collecting box, and then you can make the 2 Tanks a Tank Commander unit, the 2 Infantry squads could be Veteran Squads, and then you can include a unit of 3 Ogryn.
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>>51194141
Regrouping as they make progressive jumps so they can make the maximum simultaneous strike at Terra as possible.
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>>51194141
the eye of terra obviously fucks up the warp pretty bad, abby's fleet isn't immune to getting fucked over, if i recall correctly chaos ships from crusades will show up wildly off course

cadia was the bottleneck he needed to pass through to get to calmer areas of space and have more reliable warp passage
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>>51194152
Ah, that does make sense, though we were already playing a little fast and loose desu, letting kaldor into the lowbie games. thank you though, I shall do that the next time i'm down the store. What variant would you recommend for the other leman russ?
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>>51194174
So isnt it good cadia is gone? Seeing as it will be much harder for chaos to exit the eye?
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>>51194270
No, because Crimson Path.
>>
So /tg/, how did you pick YOUR DUDES?
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>>51194174
I never understood why the chaos gods didn't just make another path for him.

I mean, unless they've just been fucking with him all this time and don't really expect him to win.
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Gonna do some purging, don't really have much else to chose from for my army so i'm a bit locked down on choices.

I'm not sure what i'm fighting but i figured i'm probably gonna try to alpha strike as much as i can with shunting knights and deepstriking termis.
Still unsure what discipline to roll for the librarian.
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>>51194270
Better than them taking it for themselves, but the imperium has lost its presence in the region with it gone.

>>51194297
The chaos gods don't control the warp to that extent.
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>>51193393
Sometimes thats a good idea. I just sold all of my armies except Eldar because theyve been my favorite since I started playing at about age 12.
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>>51192593
A TEQ is T4, 2+, with an Invul.
A Riptide is closer to a Demon Prince. At tough 6 most weapons I had would only have wounded on a 6.

A the Suit his leader had was more of a TEQ.
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>>51194294
My dudes are generic until they start fighting. Also if their models sustain repairable damage. For instance, I have a commissar with a snapped in half power sword, I call him Commissar Sam and he has an affinity for killing Eldar, as they are the ones who broke his prized sword (Was playing against eldar, when he was removed from the table i dropped him and his sword broke, decided not to glue it and gave him story instead)
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>>51194234
Vanquisher is a good choice for the Commander's Tank because he has BS4. I would make sure to at least get a Lascannon hull upgrade for him, but I would also recommend Melta Sponsons if you have the points. That gives him a lot of shots to pop vehicles. As for his mandatory Tank buddy, I would go with the Exterminator because the main gun is S7 Ap4 and 4 shots that are twin-linked. Twin-linked makes up for his BS3 and S7 is decent at glancing vehicles to death, so the whole unit can work well against vehicles and high Toughness Monstrous Creatures.

However, it seems like you're playing against a guy who is using primarily terminators so you won't get a ton of use out of the Exterminator. Eradicator is also a good option because it ignores cover, is cheap, and can be outfitted with Plasma Cannon sponsons to make it better at killing infantry, especially Terminators.

Ideally if he's going to be going all Terminator units, the Demolisher would pierce their armor and Instant Death them, but the Demolisher kit doesn't come in the Start Collecting box.
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>>51194330
to expand on this, the story I gave him is that he was fighting the dirty xenos when a farseer entered the battle, melted the men under his command with mind bullets before he got a shot at him, psychic reaction due to powersword against psychic defences being put up a moment too late snapped his sword in half. He left that half inside his fallen enemy, walked across a battlefield at night back to base and sharpened the rest of his sword to remind him of his first major engagement. and first major failure.
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>>51194327

Calling Riptides TEQ is a meme.
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>>51194294
I returned to the hobby after 10 years and AdMech are a new faction since then, and I really like their history and fluff overall. I also like Necrons because Egypt and spooky skeletons are cool.

/My/ dudes' backstory involves them allying with Necrons. Some Skitarii discovered a tombworld while searching for STCs and a Dynasty Overlord took control of some, and others came to revere the Overlord as the Omnissiah, the pinnacle of technological perfection.
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>>51194330
I dig the backstory for your commissar, sounds like a cool war story.
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>>51194382
Holy fuck that sounds cool. Do you play them as allies or just proxy?
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>>51190087
Can someone point me to the fortification that is
1-3 void shields 1-3 Promethean pipe relays and 1-3 haemotrope reactors? I think that's what it was but i could be wrong. It's not the void relay network.
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>>51194427
I don't have Necron models yet, so I'm just working on my AdMech force so far. I have ~1,200 points and might add in Necrons when I get to 2000 or don't want any additional AdMech units. Then I'll start with a small Necron allied force to keep it fluffy.

I'm writefagging out the whole story, but it's still in progress.
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>>51194362
Thanks mang, I shall raise a glass to you when I win, if I win.
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>>51194294
rape elves
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can someone repost the imperial decurion from FoC?
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>>51194371
You kids and your Memes! Oh well when we rematch I'll be ready for it....with a nice wall of Rhinos between it and me. I just wish I could squeeze in the sorcerer. A nice daemonette swarm suddenly ripping out of the warp aught to give that Riptide a nightmares.
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>>51194294
This book right here.
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>>51194528
>>51191207
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>>51194463
I swear I wish my skills were good enough I'd be adding SkeeN nose art to all my tanks and Knights.
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>>51194488
So you came from /d/ then.
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>>51194561
Surely there's some fucker on this big green globe that can print their own transfer sheets. If gw can do it one of us can.
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>>51194541
Loved the book but I am saddened the army Is built around summoning on the table over possessed/daemon engine/cultist shenanigans.
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>>51194294
My favorite color is green.
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>>51194584
People make their own transfers with special paper and laser printers IIRC. BoLS has done articles in the past on them.
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>>51194610
So...Orks or Dark Angels then?
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>>51194294
By my dudes to you mean my Legion? My Legion of blood angels who fell to chaos and joined with the Emperor's Children? My dudes who became "Real Vampires"?

Because I love Vampires! I also have a thing for Slaanesh because of beauty, sexuality, and perfecting of my skills.

I choose my dudes, and I enjoy the narratives I've forged. over my two games.
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>>51194025
Some dude last thread said his GW manager hands out a binder with the 0din codex printed in it, so maybe people won't be so butthurt about your using it.

If not that, then spam ForgeWorld. Their biker boss uses his PK at i4 and makes Warbikers into troops. BullyBoyz in Blitz Brigade, Mek Gunz, minimum Grots as troops.

Go with multiple CADs or just unbound, since fuck it--way too much shit went into Heavy Support in the Cruddex.

If your group is cool with it, the Kustom Stompa can put out baller dakka, like 3 D blasts a turn for under 600pts. Buzzgob's Big Mek Stompa is also good for 400 points.
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>>51194617
you reckon they can print one of those awesome pin-ups small enough for tanks? Cause if I could get some of that on my lemans i'd be chuffed to bits.
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>>51194633
striking scorpions
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>>51194584
The hobby lobby near me sells a kit that lets you Print your own as well on a inkjet printer. Thing is it can't print white.
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>>51194633
Orks. Although I do like striking scorpions like >>51194665 said.
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>>51194655
...Do they glitter anon?

Because as long as they don't it's fine.
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>>51194693
eh, the sisters white hair thing is overrated anyway
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>>51194664
i want a thicc saint celestine pinup mural painted on my sisters themed baneblade, alas i can't freehand :(
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>>51194664
Probably. I mean the do shoulder pads and stuff.
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>>51194655
like, prissy vampires or brutal bloodlust vampires. because the latter is cool.
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>>51194294

Read a story about Orks slapping Tau around.
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>>51194597
Agreed. Which is why I play KdK.
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>>51194765
The guys are in an audio drama too. Fukkin' loved it.
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>>51194773
Good on ya.
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>>51194710
Glitter? No they develop second degree burns.
I said REAL vampires.
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>>51194780

I'm hoping they return or bailed out of the Red Waaagh! before things got ugly.
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>>51194723

Just paint her giant golden ass on the tank then.
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>>51194806
Oh thank the God-Emperor. I was afraid you were a massive Twink faggot.
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>>51194818
They're part of the Sanctus Reach plot. They were running a little sun that powers a massive Traktor Kannon that was towing a comet towards the planet.

Give it a listen, it's ace.
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>>51193191
>>51193071
>>51192987
THIS IS FANART YOU DUMB FUCKS
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>>51194825
>>51190130
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>>51194869

I have.

I've read or listened to every story they're in so far.

However, I'm curious as to whether or not they bailed before things went awry at the end of Hour of The Wolf.
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>>51194891
well it looks official enough
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>>51194909
Oh, they have more stories? I must know!

Seriously, they convinced me that there should be an Ork Audio drama series.
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>>51194744
Like Dracula Untold. Noble, bloodthirsty.
Like Alucard and Seras. Dark, Bloody, and Sexy.

Less Prissy, more Lords of Eternal Blood, Sex, and War.
It's why on my chaos Knight I picked a nice picture and I was thinking of putting that on there and the words "Bitches Love Cannons".
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>>51194902
too bad anon can't take the SisterFister-99 to the UK since they are trying to ban fisting :(
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>>51194927
It's NOT
it's fanart that was made at least 4 years ago by that dude on Deviantart who has a hard-on for dark eldars
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>>51190917
Pretty sure it just means how well a woman bounces her ass on dick
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>>51194939

No, just three so far.

Engine of Mork, Evil Sun Rising and Klaw of Mork.
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>>51194953
good to know, but surely you can forgive us for thinking otherwise, as it looks pretty damn good, which is pretty much what official artwork looks like.
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>>51194951
Crush the UK with your massive fist engine?
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>>51194972
Ah. I need to read the middle one then.
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>>51194940
>tfw you can't listen to Seras' dubbed voice without thinking of the most ott english sterotype accent ever
>tfw americans ruined a japanese cartoon set in britain for you
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>>51191207
>can't take Legion of the Damned in Castellan's detachment
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>>51194951
they're trying to ban fisting on camera. as long as nobody pays to see if you can do whatever the fuck you want. which is the opposite of the rest of the world's laws, but we are a backwards place, I suppose.
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>>51195022
Why not watch the Abridged version then?
At least then it makes sense.
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>>51194965
I'm pretty sure it's just her dance moves, like how she jiggles her titties, how she shakes her milk
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>>51195039
Take them as a detachment allied to it?
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new thread when?
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>>51195040
your conservative party has some weird priorities sometimes.

>just as long as they don't try and ban plastic models its cool tho
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>>51192557
they go in the paint stripping bath along with the rest of your fucked up primer
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My rep tells me that the eldar in the red suit is an old Autarch and that many will be surprised when they reveal his name
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>>51195139
is his name alpharius?
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>>51195139
Calling it right now it's Slau Dha
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>>51195080
Yeah but, unlike a Xenos Inquisitor taking a Deathwatch unit in his IA formation, there is an actual (tiny) bonus to having them in this one. It's just weird to see them deny a unit that's listed as part of that battle, yet include plenty that weren't (such as most BB variant LoWs and the assassins).
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Where da next thread at bois?
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>>51195014

Evil Sun Rising chronicles the Ork landing and the battle against the Knights that were there to greet them among other things.

You also get a better idea of Mogrok's personality in the book.
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>>51190087
I've got Shas'O R'alai and a Cadre Fireblade as HQs in a list. O'R'alai's warlord trait is shit (Preferred Enemy against ICs that are not in a unit). Should I make the squishier Fireblade warlord instead so I can actually roll on the table?
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>>51195139
Surprised that they've never heard of this vague scrub from ancient lore, ditto except from Horus Heresy (most likely), or pleasantly surprised because someone finally donned Arhra's armor?
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>>51195267
Oh neat.
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>>51195139
Have similarities, removing the helmet... could be
Background explains that not all the autarchs use the same equipment, but I do not remember the name of any autarch.
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>>51190087
>>51195288
>>51195288

>>51195288
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>>51191841
depends on what "that guy runs" is he cover dependant i.e easy for tau chedder to kill w/o cover or not??
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>>51195039
>can't take wulfen
>can't take dark angels

I like how things which are specifically mentioned in the book just aren't part of the detachment
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>>51191389

Loving the Otyugh
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>>51192137
WHAT IS THIS DEFEATISM, DID WE NOT STAND AT CADIA! DID WE NOT FORCE THAT PATHETIC TRAITOR ABBADON TO CRASH HIS BELOVED MASS OF HERETICAL FILTH INTO OUR BELOVED CADIA

YOU MAKE IT SOUND LIKE WE LOST NO WE SIMPLY FELL BACK. CADIA LIVES within every one of her children. what do we fight for? did you forget with all that chaos around us what it was fought for WE FIGHT FOR CADIA

so what if it fell to the warp, we will take it back, AND CADIA WILL STAND AGAIN.
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So I'm really new to 40k. I went out and got my self paints and a primer for a set of IG cadians, just the $10 box of like 5. I've been using Duncan as a reference for how to paint them.
Where should I start lore wise? With the IG codex? Any books I need to read? Is there a good starting point to understand what the hell is going on?
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