/pfg/ - Pathfinder General

>>51178902
Honestly, I want me those Good elemental lords.

I mean the elemental lord of fire we have right now isn't even an elemental!

>>51178902

My gingerbread witch will be worshiping Folca.

Who wants candy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t8-_pI1-9Q

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/pfg/, tell me about your party! Any hijinks?

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>>51178902
>Deskari, Ghlaunder, Aldinach, Kalma, Graffiacane

I need more evil bug deities so I can decide what kind of insect will most influence the design of the next Tiefling I build.

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>>51178902

Does Kurgess count? he's one of the more well known of the lesser deities.

Other than that, any good dragon deities besides Apsu, Tiamat and her bastard son what's his face?

That or some desert themed gods and goddesses.

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>>51179128
Aldinach is the scorpion Demon Lord.

Granted, if I (>>51179059) end up making a scorpion-themed Tiefling instead of a locust or mosquito, (s)he won't look like pic.

>>51179128
Aasternian best dragon goddess.

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>>51179128
Also the other dragon god you're looking for is Dahak.

He is not pleasant company.

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What kind of hijinks should go on in Culdranth's menagerie with all the exotic beasts ready to be "sampled" there?

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>>51179214
NO.

NONE OF THAT. SHAME ON YOU.

>>51179128
>That or some desert themed gods and goddesses
Nurgal is still around from 3.5
Ahriman is also a good go-to for deserts, since he's essentially Entropy Genie

>>51179214

Yeah, No.

>>51179214
Anon! Why don't you ever make posts like that in the Dragon game roll20?

I'm all for lewd or even pure discussion, but so many of these guys are sticks in the mud.

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>>51179050
>My Eldritch Archer Magus's knowledge rolls are high enough he can identify a devil down to his true-name, but can't hit the broad side of a troll.

>Our paladin is obsessed with being SWOLEST motherfucker around and constantly finding ways to double his gains to become even more SWOLE. Oh, and he fights for Justice.

>The Incanter likes to overpush himself that he can barely squeeze out two spells before becoming fatigued.

>The Witch is lewd and wants to bump uglies with the paladin. Did I mention she's an old hag who's under a 24 hour illusion spell to look like a 16 year old?

>The Warlord is an incredible Dual Shield Wielding boss... until you realize he does a paltry 2d6 damage per round and rarely uses his discipline strikes.

We're a party of fuckups.

Why is there only one two-handed sword in the SRD?

>>51179339
sweet jesus that eris

>>51179214
>>51179314

To weigh in on this in a offical manner. If there IS some sort of collection of exotic beasts and what not, for this sampling of which you speak.

It would be a private collection of a pervert who keeps it outside the city limits. Invite only.

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>>51179339
>The Witch is lewd and wants to bump uglies with the paladin. Did I mention she's an old hag who's under a 24 hour illusion spell to look like a 16 year old?

That shit has gotta be the most hilarious member of the group.

So I figured it out:
>Human
>Hell's Vengance
>Tattooed Sorcerer -> Bloatmage
>Sedentary Shadow Seer Oracle
>Hide in Plain Sight
>Overland Flight

I'm going to be a nudist and LE. I shall be a fat orb covered in tattoos with Hide in Plain Sight from Shadow Mystery. They call he the the Watchful Moon.

I think this is literally perfect.

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>>51179339
That Dorkness!

>>51179371

Thank you for weighing. And, just so that no one feels shy, it's okay to ask these questions and have these discussions in the roll20, right?

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>>51179404

That's half the reason for the "Lewd content Discussion thread" on the LFG

The tools are in place. please use them.

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>>51179390
it burns

>>51179390
>>51179431
Gonna be honest, sounds similar to the Taken from TBC. They all had a really weird features like that.

TAKING APPS FOR HELL'S VENGEANCE

Ignore the giantslayer in the link.
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66405/giantslayer

Games on Tuesdays, Gestalt, 25pb, most 3pp allowed.

Join in!

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Don't hide it from me, /pfg/
Tell me about your homebrews

>>51179379
What's the preferred tone for this game? Would you be open to somebody playing something along the lines of Skeletor or 80's Shredder, or would you prefer a more serious threat?

>>51179483
Hey buddy, give me your preliminary evaluation of >>51179390.

At level 1 I am just a rich and opulent fat man swaddled in velvet and perfume.

Hey /pfg/, I've got a warlord in my game dishing out 248 damage in a single turn with his fists at level 7. Is this normal? how do you counter broken fucking blade? this seems overpowered as shit.

I must be a retard and my player is cheating, right?

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>>51179490
I've got two homebrew things that I wrote quite a while ago, and I enjoy sharing whenever they come up

the first is the Warbeast Tamer, an initiating Hunter archetype. The idea is to be as nonmagical as possible while having an absolutely kickass pet.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N5I_R5QceisH-gUtmuwcN5Z34mnIT-Jr22T2ZqajdBo/edit

The second is Magical Beast companions. Remember how Hippogriffs, owlbears, trollhounds, and similar creatures are basically animals, but because they're not real world animals they count as "magical beasts"? I've always hated that, so here's a ton of entries for animal-level intelligence magical beasts from the various bestiaries!
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EccqnBPWI-JcduFcz1EryuGxkrMY_jbrpSgZz2ZEVCU/edit

>>51179517
Broken Blade matches its namesake: completely broken. This is well known, and there's even a replacement discipline in the works.

If you're having trouble with Broken Blade just outright deleting enemies, I recommend taking a look at Fool's Errand here, and possibly using it as a replacement:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jWw7bVMARxrXfRuOW20NlRqXEnS_XGLPT6LHTbz2qME/edit

>>51179517
Do you know what strikes/boosts/feats/etc. he's using?

>>51179490
a whole lot of PoW archetypes, many of which I dont feel comfortable about anymore, especially since it looks like I will enjoy SoM more thay PoW

>>51179490
Someone is working on an Armorist fix.
Hope that works out.

>>51179371
hey Dragon DM, you need to officially making that Sewing Circle dragon

>>51179517
>Broken Blade
There's your problem.
Look up Fool Errand. A few pfg games have gone the "switch broken blade out for Fools Errand and we're good" path.
Which is the right path.

>>51179577
Thanks, man. I'm going to take a look at this.
>>51179587
two weapon fighting
broken blade stance
dual boost bronze and iron knuckle
party magus uses haste and this dude now has
6 attacks at +6d6 and his giant ass str bonus, most are at full BAB. I think he's getting an extra 1d6 per hit from something else too, don't remember what though

>>51179658
> all those
I hate to tell you this
But it looks like you got a power gamer.

>>51179390
HV here, you had me until nudist

>>51179658
Your player basically took every single power option available to him.

I'm sorry to say that, unless you put strict limits on what he can and can't do (which is both unfair and unfun) he's going to continue to find ways to do this. He'd find ways to do this even with a barbarian or fighter, initiators just raise the skill floor.

Sorry man, there's nothing we can do except tell you to ask him to tone it down.

>>51179390
>giant tattooed naked fat man
>it's DHB's character
Dear christ

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>>51179725
>>51179681
I understand.
It's my fault, you know. I raised him to be like this. I wanted him to find fun in the game and taught him to look for these kinds of tricks.

I'm such a fool.

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>>51179695
But how do you feel about cute boys in military uniforms?

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>>51179775
I'd rather cute lolis in uniform making the prussian empire great again!

>>51179658
Dual Boost is 1/day. Consider asking him to maybe tone it down, or just have things use illusions and fakeouts. It's technically by the book, but >>51179681
He's being a bit of a dick about it. If you've got PoW using enemies, any counter that lets them move after (There's a Riven Hourglass one early, and a Mithril Current one later) means he's burned a bunch of immediate resources on whiffing.
Basically, talk to him and ask him to tune it down a little for the rest of the party, or tune it up if they're also overperforming, if he refuses, make his dick sad.

>>51179390
Some moments I envision:
>sudden realization by enemy with a "that's no moon"
>overland flight hasted fat man running at you at 500ft per round
>walk into a room unable to see anyone, the massive fatman was behind the door
It's disgusting

>>51179792
the entire premise of magical girl loli hitler should have sold me, but I fucking hate the art for the anime.

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>>51179792
>prussian
>literally a nazi

>>51179810
Read the manga, it's leagues better.

>>51179490
I've made a couple of things, mostly Occultist material or other archetypes. Nothing really hammered-out or that I'm willing to show to the public though yet, unfortunately.

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>>51179807
Possible character art.

>>51179821
Read the light novel, it's leagues better.

>>51179658
Staggers or repositioning, all the extra attacks are wasted if he can't full attack?

>>51179771
See >>51179794
Don't be afraid to play hardball if he chews you out man. It's a game that meant to be fun for the whole group, not just him.

>>51179847
you don't understand. it's worse than that. He wouldn't get mad, he'd understand and just be sad forever. It makes me feel like an awful person, you know?

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>>51179839
I really fucking should, especially after I consumed the manga so quickly. But does the LN have cute art?

>>51179867
It's a lose-lose situation, but something's gotta give.

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>>51179695
If you actually are the HV GM, I have a question.

Would you be permissible in having a character worship Deskari, but mechanically (feats, traits, Prestige Classes) function with Urgathoa stuff? I mostly just want to try messing around with a Scythe as a weapon without being complete crap, you know?

>>51179834
>>51179807
>>51179390
>DHB makes a character
>it's this
I honestly don't know what to expect of DHB. He surprises me every time and each time its worse.

>>51179429
Does Bahamut and his flunkies exist in your setting?

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>>51179792
I want to commit war crimes on Tanya!

>>51179867
Oh boy
Sounds like a "rip the bandage off" situation. It's better this way.

>>51179916
It's not 'his setting', it's his pocket dimension in golarion.

So yes.

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>>51179878
Yes. You should.
If you consider this cute.

>>51179933
He's the GM, his setting faggot. Get over yourself.

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>>51179807
>hide in plain sight
>walk into a room unable to see anyone, the massive fatman was behind the door
For some reason I'm imagining two rogues hiding behind each other, or an entire party using the hiding in plain sight fatman as cover and laughing

>>51179942
He is thus far running a setting in Golarion.

We've been given no reason to think Bahamut DOESN'T exist.

Get the fuck over yourself.

>>51179909
at least hes not as much of a worthless and lifeless turbofag as you mr witch hunter

>>51179951
What do you do when a 6'6" 400lbs man was in the center of the room the entire time and you somehow fucking missed him?

>>51179908
I answered you in the QA


Yes, its fine.

>>51179970
Maybe you should actually let the man answer for his own game instead of answering for him. You're not him.

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>>51179937
>tfw loli hitler will never treat you like a disgusting untermensch and command you to lick her boots

>>51179971
Honestly there hasn't be a DHB character I haven't liked.

>>51179970
>>51179984

I wasn't aware Bahamut WAS in galorion. I thought That was Apsu as big good dragon.

>>51180033
Thank you. I'm not too familiar with the pantheon of Pathfinder and I assumed you ported Tiamat over from D&D, but I'm obviously wrong.

>>51179975
>>51179951
>>51179807
>>51179390
I'm throwing together my level 1 build at the moment. I don't get Hide in Plain Sight until much later. At level 1 I am looking at looking at the following for stealth:

1 (rank) + 3 (class skill) + 3 (dexterity) + 3 (centipede) + 2 (heart of the slums) + 2 (adopted -> Color Thief) + 3 (skill focus from Stealth Mastery) + 2 (cloak of darkness) + 4 (reduce person) + 1 (dex from reduce person) + 10 (nature's divination) + 1 (shadow bloodline power) = +35 Stealth Check

This is gonna be great. However if I do this I can not afford Bloatmage Initiate at level 1. Which is a problem. I will likely give up one of my three revelations for it.

>>51179983
Awesome, thank you! I just wanted to double-check, so thank you very much on that!

>>51180089
>6'6" 400lbs fat man
>+35 stealth check
>at level 1
Fuck this bullshit

>>51180075

Tiamat is technically in the Pantheon, however no one directly worships her because they're fucking scared of her.

Dahak, her son, is typically the go to Evil dragon god. Though even evil dragons wanna kill the bastard.

>>51180089
Jesus Christ man, maybe tone it down at 1st level yeah? +20 is still respectable without costing you ALL your resources, as well as making the rest of us not feel so bad.

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>>51179983
>questions about playing a cute boy ignored
Alright, I get the message.

>>51180089
>Using reduce person
>Sacrificing your bulk for stealth

Doesn't that defeat the point of your concept?

>>51180199
You're right. Reduce person is out the window. I shall instead use Enlarge Person. I shall have a +25.

>>51180199
It's level one, anon, you have to start somewhere. He'll bulk up as things get really crazy.

>>51179775
cute boys how?

>>51180089
The other possibility is this:
>dress robe from the waste down
>shirtless with enormous amounts of tattoos
>nameless one for smooth mask covering head
>deific obedience Groetus (if GM will let me homebrew one)
I need to think what theme I am going for. Shadow/Moon themed nobleman or a strange and powerful sorcerer seeking his dominion.

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How do I MAXIMUM MOSQUITO, /pfg/?

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>>51179695
HV GM, HV GM, what happens if my class already gets Weapon Finesse as a bonus feat?

>>51180251
Yeah, but if you've got a theme then you should stick with it, you know?
>>51180288
I feel like wearing pure white or fog-grey robes does better than tattoos and shit, make you look more like a moon. Also, Groteus already has an Obedience.

>>51180302
Weapon finesse comes baked in, free bonus feat from the........monk list.

I'm feeling punchy.

>>51180320
>Also, Groteus already has an Obedience.
He does? Can you give me a link?

>I feel like wearing pure white or fog-grey robes does better than tattoos and shit, make you look more like a moon.
That's the planned color for the robes, but the tattoos are important as well. Tattoos have a lot more mysticism associated with them, and the character is a large canvas.

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>>51180272
Cute boys conscripted into military service due to magical talent, as PCs.

>>51180139
I like this as a rating.
>Vaguely Reasonable Tier
Urgathoa, General Susumu, Asmodeus
>You Scratch My Back, I'll Scratch Yours Tier
Lamashtu, The Green Mother, Haagenti
>Oh Shit Nigger, What The Fuck Are You Doing Tier
Groetus, Tiamat, Rovagug, Nivi Rhombodazzle

>>51178902
This minor deity and the vengeance one are perfect for my Hell knight paladin.

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>>51180347
Here you go man.

>>51179050
>My Cabalist Vigilante is a very tired Ghoul who's been alive for around 4000 years and is working as a mole for the villains as per DM request

>Our Paladin is from not-china and is constantly looking for reasons to smite me. He also accidentaly stole his patron deity's horse.

>Our cleric is tsundere for the party barbarian and was secretly responsible for the death of one of my previous characters because she was too concerned with following the Barbarian around.

>Party Barbarian is a renowned celebrity, adventurer, and sloot. She also might have some connection to an evil snake god but we don't know.

>And our Magus is a member of a government law enforcement agency who have been hunting down my character for the last 2000 years and is working with the party so he can keep an eye on all my actions and arrest me when the world is saved.

Can you have more than one Ioun Stone active at a time?

>>51180355
>Groetus
Moon god best god how dare you

>>51180355
>Nivi Rhombodazzle
the hell is this?

>>51180463
Yes.

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>>51180463
Ioun Stones don't take up a slot and there's no stated limit to how many you can have active. The only limit is how many you can have in orbit before your vision is obscured by a swarm of shiny rocks.

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>>51179775
>>51180354
>tfw all 3 of the boys I hang out with in my cartooning program are trans so they look like this but I already told the whole class I'm not into dudes and everything's weird and I don't know how chestbinders even work but I have to avoid snuggling or they WILL know and I'll have to confess but I'm REALLY confused about what I should even be confessing to except to being REALLY confused

>>51180539
And then, after a while, it's limited by the magpies coming to steal your shiny baubles.

>>51180355
Man the fuck you on about, Groetus is bro.

He's not even Evil. Just Chaotic Neutral.

Sure he makes you go insane, but what's a little insanity between friends?

New build:
>Tattooed Umbral Sorcerer -> Bloatmage
>Seer Shadow Oracle -> Groetus Evangelist
>Nameless One
>Taking upon the Monikor 'The Watchful Moon'
>In pursuit of becoming a Sorcerer King
>6'6" 350lbs ghostly pale fatman
>pale fog robe from the waist down with massive draped scarf
>barefoot
>entierly hairless
>smooth white mask
>tattoos of many eyes covering his torso
>mauler centipede familiar (so wrapped in a medium sized centipede)

I can work with this. If I'm going to make an evil character then I shall go for it!

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>>51180546
>not touching their butts
What is wrong with you?

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>>51180597
I don't like it. This isn't cute at all.

>>51180577
I think it's a terrible trade to have "The Final Countdown" constantly playing in your head

>>51180597
Can't have two PrCs going at the same time, tattoos look terrible on a fat guy and you shouldn't do it.

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>>51180649
>Can't have two PrCs going at the same time, tattoos look terrible on a fat guy and you shouldn't do it.
You can't? I didn't realize.

>>51180597
So for the familiar it will look something like this but 12 feet long (as I can enlarge him more than medium at level 3).

How does gestalting and taking Evangelist work?

>>51180546
Whoa I'm at an animation school too, and two of my players in my PF game are trans boys. Weird coincidence. They're some of my better friends at my lonely ass school, and helped me a lot by being actual reliable human beings who show up to game time instead of making me go through being GM-stood-up alone, like used to happen. I don't want to bone them though cause I really am too het for it. There's nothing wrong with coming out as confusedsexual, anon. That's a real thing that loads of people go through; your friends could probably even tell you a better word for it.

>>51180674
Are you doing this because it's a lewd game? Is this your revenge for the intent to ERP?

>>51180674
>>51180649
I'm looking for what rule multiple prestige classes are against. I am confused. Is it somewhere under here prestige classes are defined?

>>51180701
Back from 3.5, where Gestalt originates from.

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>>51180674

>>51180683
Gets you really annoyed looks from people who can't believe you feel the need to even do that in a gestalt game.

>>51180708
Ah I did not realize. I shall just ask if I can do so anywhere. No harm in asking.

>>51180694
I do not believe this is a lewd game. I am merely trying to design an evil character.

It seems Nameless One is off the table. I am a little disappointed, but I should still be able to do most of the same stuff, just without the feat.

What do people want in a party for Hell's Vengeance? I'm thinking of making an application but I've run dry on character ideas.

>>51179050
In a Mythic campaign I'm in:

>My 1800 year old Elf Arcanist Archmage, recently energy drained down from epic levels to level 1 and trying to regain his lost power. Also has not put on clothes since starting the adventure naked chained up in a dungeon. The epitome of No Concept of Right and Wrong.

>Our Half-Elf Destined Bloodrager Champion, the DM's wife IRL, who enjoys bisecting people with her intelligent Elven Curve Blade a little too much.

>Our Human Brawler Guardian who just wants to smash people's heads in with his Adamantine tankard and go on adventures.

>Our Aasimar Warpriest Hierophant, the Brawler's fiancee, who is houseruled into being able to channel cure and inflict spells through her quarterstaff a la Spellstrike and plans to ultimately ascend to become a goddess of balance between positive and negative energy.

It's pretty great

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>>51179178

I'm currently building a scorpion-themed White-Haired Witch/Fighter.

>High INT and STR

>Up to four levels in WHW to get the reach grapple for shutdowns and other tricks

>The rest in fighter to start putting that BAB to use and get hits on hair attacks for free grapples

>Two Weapon Fighting with dual sickles (maybe katars or something, not sure yet, thoughts?)

>Greensting Scorpion familiar because theming and poison for...

>Hair tied up in a ponytail with a hooked weight at the end that resembles a scorpion stinger, poison the hook with familiar's poison or better when I can find it

Definitely a WIP but I'm excited to give her (him?) a try.

>>51179050
>Bookreader, goblin pilot. He's been a combat engineer for years, has his own construct flying machine, and has a severe hate of other goblinoids due to the fact they threw rocks at him because he read books. This isn't like kid bullying, this happened last week.

>Kernal Esma, middle aged military man. Been a soldier since his teens. Joined the party for the first time to go after a grudge match with the blue kobold matriarch after losing the extra planar dance competition three years running. This newest adventure has forced him to confront his past, which he has not liked looking back on his childhood. The last adventure also netted him a political marriage with one of the daughters of the green kobold matriarch.

>Ardovan is a cleric of Torag who was originally forced out of his home after being forced to perform trial by combat against his own brother. He resurrected him recently, but his brother had gone mad and was enraged about the whole affair. Now he is drifting around not wanting to go back to the dwarves.

>00D is an old revolutionary who joined the party for just this adventure. We don't know much about him except he fought against the oppressive rule of the Dwarven Nobles (essentially dwarves had the hyper rich and the destitute poor) but gave up some 30 years ago. The newest adventure has forced him out of retirment.

>Krik'Nak left kobold lands because life there was terrible and sought real dragons, the kind from legends. On the last adventure, the one Esma joined in on, he ended up becoming a criminal to his own people, hiding away. However he eventually reentered as the mysterious Dancer X and helped Esma defeat the Blue Matriarch and her daughter in the duet duel. He secured the daughter's hand in marriage.

>>51179050

>Our damn-near untouchable fighter got gifted a soul-stealing sword that may usher in the apocalypse if he keeps feeding it, which he does because it's his main weapon. He just got shit talked by his archenemy's projection after being restrained by some spell involving summoning hands.

>The barbarian partly got his wish as we just finished helping him free his people from the oppression of one of his former tribesmen. However, said tribesman was apparently turned into a graveknight by the enemy of the above fighter and was whisked away after we killed him.

>The alchemist has been clinging onto the barbarian and a neutered kid we sorta adopted because his family was wiped out by druids. So far that has involved teaching the kid and giving her low-level gear, i.e. quilted armor and a ring of feather fall, as well as prioritizing the barbarian for healing.

>The rogue is just trying to keep the kid from being too influenced by the alchemist since he's a petty dick, e.g. casually torturing the barbarian's brother by breaking extract bottles in his mouth/healing his broken arms wrong because he had injured the barbarian pretty severely when we fought him.

>The monk doesn't give too much of a shit except for bantzing with the fighter.

>>51180812
From previous leg of the adventure:

>June Somday
>Lawful Good Asimar Divine Commander, drinks too often and a tad hardheaded, lets his summons do the work.

>Major Esma
>Neutral Evil Hobgoblin Pain Taster, interplanar dance sensation reeling at the death of his wife and child in a dancing accident.

>Ardovan Valain
>Lawful Good Dwarf Torag Cleric, the closest thing the party has to a conscious, currently dealing with the fact this his just revived brother hates him.

>Andromeda
>True Neutral Human Stars Oracle, against everything the party does for moral reasons, unsure what those moral reasons are.

>Krik'nak
>??? Kobold Dragon Herald, savior of the Kobold race.

>Rovas
>Lawful Evil Tiefling Warlord, currently two timing in the blood war and on a very quick road to a drow political marriage.

>Crok
>Chaotic Neutral Orc Brawler, recently adopted a yuan'ti that the party found and came out of retirement for one last job.

Just finished my revised brand new character sheet, my first one ever in PF.
Can you guys check it over to make sure I didn't fuck anything up too badly?

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=1059698

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>>51179551
Those magical beast companions are pretty cool, anon.

>>51180871
Just realized I didn't delete the caster part of the sheet.
Ignore that

How would you stat a Dire Elf Bard Mummy at minimal level/CR?

>>51181006
Dire Elf?

>>51181021

If the dire template were to theoretically be applicable to intelligent creatures, of course.

>>51181021
Dunno, it could be a dire bard or dire mummy instead.

>>51180932
Thanks! I'm rather proud of them.

>>51181021
The large sized elves of prehistory.

They are covered in bony plates, and have better stats in general.

Also they look really pissed off all the time, probably.

>>51180597
>>Taking upon the Monikor 'The Watchful Moon'
>>In pursuit of becoming a Sorcerer King
>>6'6" 350lbs ghostly pale fatman
>>pale fog robe from the waist down with massive draped scarf
>>barefoot
>>entierly hairless
>>smooth white mask
>>tattoos of many eyes covering his torso
>>mauler centipede familiar (so wrapped in a medium sized centipede)
Jesus christ

>TFW one of my games is an all-dudes CoCT where we're laying the political tension and atmosphere on really thick

>The other is a stupid wacky party fumbling their way through Jade Regent

>Newest campaign is going to be a psychological, eldritch, and body horror setting based loosely on video games like Bloodborne and Bioshock.

I will never have time for simple fantasy lewds...

TAKING APPS FOR HELL'S VENGEANCE

Ignore the giantslayer in the link.
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/listing/66405/giantslayer

Games on Tuesdays, Gestalt, 25pb, most 3pp allowed.

Join in!

>>51180395
Neat.

I took Heart of the Fields for the free 1/day fatigue relief, but now I've got this bonus to put in a Craft/Profession skill. What should I take? Gonna be playing Kingmaker with this character and I'm guessing we'll eventually have free time so it may have some use. Maybe Alchemy? Could make invisible ink and smoke bombs with that...

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If your players are gay should the universe around them become gay with them?

>>51181424
Throw them a few bones (lol)

But no, the universe does not suddenly become all gay.

>>51181366
What would make sense for the character?

>>51181460
That's the problem, I don't frankly know. He's a traveling warrior, maybe a mercenary? Originally he was going to be a drunkard but with the rules for that being so vague I decided not to bother...

>>51181424
Well, it also kinda matters if the characters are gay, but... I mean, if it's a campaign that's likely to be heavy on social situations, then they're probably going to interact with NPCs that they might want to romance IC. And shutting down 90% of the interactions - while ostensibly realistic - isn't FUN.

Honestly, I gotta say that going with the DA2 method is ideal here. Everyone's bi if you want to romance them, and otherwise just do whatever comes naturally.

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>>51181138
How's gestalt spherecasting going to work here?

How many talents/spell points/caster level do I get?

>>51181496

As many as you want. It's all homebrew content so just make stuff up!

>>51181482
He could take Profession (Mercenary). Maybe the DM will let you roll that for general checks related to finding work, not getting swindled by clients, etc.

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>>51181505
Can a Profession (mercenary) check be used in place of a Will saving throw for the purpose of maintaining loyalty?

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>>51181500
What, really? Are you the GM?

For real, how's gestalt spherecasting work?

>>51181521
Yea. You can also add +1 for each digit on your paycheck above four.

>>51181496
Not the DM here, but my advice: Keep track of 3 pools of spell points and talents. One gained from one side of the gestalt, one from the other, and one from neutral (like feats). That mimics gestalted spellcasting the best. You can't use spell points from one side to fuel the other, but you can use spell points from either side to fuel feat-granted abilities, and you can use feat-granted spell points to fuel either side's spells.

>>51181571
That's a massive fucking pain in the ass though.

>>51181642
Easier than tracking two Vancian casters.

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>>51181571
>>51181642
>>51181697
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?415365-The-Creator-of-Spheres-of-Power-Here-Ask-Me-Anything&p=19262748&highlight=gestalt#post19262748

>Gestalt characters: I haven't run a gestalt game with SoP, but I'd assume that Caster Level, like BAB, would advanced with the highest included class. I'd let them take talents for both classes though, just as a cleric/wizard gestalt would get two sets of spells.

Meyers says take the highest caster level.

>9th level casters get 1/2 BAB, 1 good save, 4 skill points per level
>6th level casters get 3/4 BAB, 2 good saves, 6 skill points per level
>4th level casters get full BAB, 3 good saves, 8 skill points per level
>Noncasters get the above + gestalt with fighter

Would you play in a game like this?

>>51181725
Yeah. I'd build around substituting other saves with the single good one and be done with it.

>>51181725
... Is this a trick question? Full casters and 6 level casters already HAVE those stats.. All you changed is Ranger and Paladin skill points.

>>51181754
I don't know, maybe I could be swayed to play a rogue that gets 13/4 BAB, all good saves, and fighter class features.

>>51181754

Clerics don't have 1/2 BAB or 4 skill points per level.
Wizard doesn't have 2 good saves or 4 skill points per level.
Magus doesn't have 6 skill points per level, etc.

>>51181779
True. Or you could play a Stalker Vigilante with an Avenger Vigilante's BAB and too many feats. And I guess Barbarian also has all those feats. But that just means you win the DPR olympics even harder than you already were.

>>51181802
Wizards are 9 level casters with 1/2 BAB and one good save, the hell games are you playing? Like, sure, clerics and druids are nerfed slightly, but Sorcerers and Arcanists are also just shrugging it off.

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I'm looking to start up a hexcrawl using the Inner Sea setting, any opinions on a good starting locale for a bunch of lvl 1 ne'er-do-wells? As I understand it will be an evil stoneforge cleric who wants to create a hammer strong enough to destroy ships, a catfolk rogue, a PTSD bard, and a fight-sexual magus.

I was considering the Shackles, as they love pirates and sailing, but my goal was more to let them decide entirely on where to go and what to do, so perhaps Absalom?

>>51181717
This says nothing to address spell points.

>>51181875

spell points are a function of caster level

>>51182072
That's an assumed extrapolation from what he said.
It's not covered.

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Is the Scizore any good for grapple builds?

>>51180355
I want to marry Urgathoa!

>>51180546
Have sex with each butt on a different day of the week, Anon.

>>51180689
You're never too het for free booty, son.

What's a good feat for a Bloodrager at 3rd level?

>>51181094
Sounds hot

>>51181424
Only if there isn't an equally powerful heterosexual nearby, warping it straight.

I need a good name for a blue Dragon that runs an inn an trades secrets for magic items and vise versa.

>>51182345
The Dusky Strumpet

>>51182353
For the Dragon not the Inn

>>51182345
Bluerocket the Horizondicer

>>51182358
Narendra

>>51182358
Nadia the Salacious, renowned across the land for her prodigious lusts

>>51182387
What about 'Nadia the Scalacious?'

>>51182391
Ill take Nadia the Scandalous

>>51181496

I'm not sure if this is the official ruling, but I believe you get all talents granted by both classes, but only one Spellpoint pool, and only one set of 2 free talents for being a sphere caster. Your casting stat needs to be the same, too.

You can also segregate your two classes entirely. Each one has its own CL, talent progression, spellpoints.

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I'm gonna be playing a minotaur in my upcoming pathfinder campaign. What should I expect? Also minotaur character art would be nice

>>51182345
Stash for Golds

>>51182603
You can expect the only functional crossbow on the continent.

But none of the girls in your village look like Buster Machine 7; All you've got is a bunch of ugly cows.

Can you attack after you pin someone?

>>51182868
Moving from a grapple to a pin is a standard action, so no not on that same turn unless you can take multiple grapple actions a turn from something like Greater Grapple.

If you can keep the pin going, you can totally attack them.

>>51182868
Not unless you have the feat that allows you to strangle people while grappling.

level 1 is a fucking meme i hate it

>>51182966
Now now, anon, what's got you twisted?

>>51183012
gestalt game
enemy got a lucky roll
died

>>51183022
It's rusty dagger shanktown! Don't worry your pretty little head.

Rate the apps for __HV__

>>51183071
go away furry

>>51183022
Make a cuter character next time. Maybe someone will save you then.

>>51183148
>cute
fuck off
manly men only

Was there a feat that allowed you to pick a prestige class as a favored class?

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>>51183194

Any ideas on setting up a Harrow Deck on roll20?

Followup: Does maintaining a grapple on its own do damage? So, if you can maintain a grapple, do you deal damage to the enemy, then do your actions?

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>>51183222
You are a true darling, anon. I have no anime girls to post, so here's John Cleese. He's basically an anime girl, right?

>>51183397
He's pretty kawaii desune~

>>51183282
No, that is an ability called "Constrict".

>>51183397
Yeah.

Now repay me by finding an excellent mapping tool.

>>51183183
What are you, gay?

>>51183451
http://pyromancers.com/dungeon-painter-online/

>>51183481
This is very sparse in terms of map assets, but it will do.

Do you figure that titan architect girl in the dragons game have the "nerve stimulation enchantment" in her suit?

>>51179775
>>51179792
Pedophiles should be burned alive

Does anyone have Healer's handbook spoilers already?

>>51183747
Posted in an earlier thread. Paladins made out pretty well, and there's a good 'Healer's Kit +' item, but otherwise it's pretty underwhelming.

THREE DAYS REMAIN UNTIL THE ELDER AD IS OVER

>tfw I'd be willing to pitch in for a commission of all the accepted characters

>>51183763
So the Vitalist is still the best way to heal your party, isn't he? Any pics of the handbook?

>>51183772
>ELDER AD
Dragon game, or RotJR?

>>51183808
I thought RotJR ended in like, less than a day?

Anyone got the Hell's Vengeance player guide as a PDF?

Can I have it?

>>51183890
RotJR ends in about 40 hours.

>>51183747
Yeah, it's not a whole lot special.

So I keep hearing good things about Spheres of Power, but aside from Destructions ability to output large amounts of damage and alterations massive self customisation it seems fairly underwhelming to me.

Geomancing, for instance, seems a fair bit situational for not much pay off even if you are in ideal situations.

Am I missing something here, pfg?

What was the name of that 'magic school' book? Was it a module or did it happen to contain any pre-made adventure material? I want to run that for my friends. By which I mean the people I think of as friends but never actually see outside of games.

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Alright chucklefucks.

What subsystem do you wish existed, but doesn't?

>>51183992
Like, the one that talked about the different magic schools in golarion?

Nah, it didn't have any adventure material.

>ywn finish your RotJR app
>even if you did you wouldn't get in.

>>51184044
To be fair anon, a lot of the people who do won't get in. That's generally what happens when the applications outnumber the slots six to one.

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Hey /pfg/, who wants to be a magical girl with 2hu? >>51181607

Not actually Pathfinder.

>>51184012
Oblivion persuasion wheel

>>51184044
If everyone had that attitude, we wouldn't have had any players!

Instead of pining over RotJR, why not apply for one of the other dozen open campaigns on roll20?
https://app.roll20.net/lfg/search/?days=&dayhours=&frequency=&timeofday=&timeofday_seconds=&language=Any&avpref=Any&gametype=Any&newplayer=false&yesmaturecontent=false&playingstructured=pathfinder&sortby=relevance&for_event=

Literally, go for it!

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>>51184044
I did and I will!

>>51184012
PoW, but interesting and with options for combat.

>>51184024
Ah, too bad. Got its name at least?

>>51184074
>Colt .45 and Gasmask Combat Medic

>>51184074
They don't really interest me that much.

>>51184086
Can you make a better app than Mr Colt .45 and gasmask combat medic? Or do you think someone spamming that guy without regard to system or setting can write a better app than you?!

>>51184095
What kind of game are you looking for, anon? Or are you only searching for bragging rights that you beat the rest of /pfg/ with your elite app?

>>51184012

I wish there was a detailed crafting system that gave information on how additions like filigree or gilding would enhance a product's value or qualities.

If I'm going to weave cloth-of-gold into a dress, I want to know how that's going to enhance it!

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>>51184075

I like your style, Fire Fox!

>>51184113
I'm in 2 games already, one of which I found off /pfg/. I just find it hilarious what that guy is doing.

>>51184113
>What kind of game are you looking for, anon?
I just wanted to give Jade Regeant and spheres of power a try. I'm not really interested in *beating* other people, but all the "competition" has made be exceedingly self conscious of my writing.

how would you make difficult encounters for a party of 4 gestalt characters, each with a psionic class as half of their gestalt, at level 1? one big strong enemy, or lots of little ones?

>>51184012
A PoW that isn't about cranking damage at all. It was versatility, variance and fun things to do that melee needed, because they were already good at damage; it just sucks that what we got comes bundled with so much unnecessary damage potential that to make melee fun you have to ALSO redesign all your encounters to be numbers vs PCs or triple your monster hit points to account for a problem that should have been avoided at the writing stage.

>>51184120
I always wanted to see a ghost-touch metal that worked BETTER as a filigree, turning from a solid sword to a sword outline made of razors.

>>51184064
>Not Pathfinder

Then it's not fucking relevant, so fuck off.

>>51184173

Well, they are good at damage in the Right Situation. Pathfinder martials suck at move + attack damage and 1 handed damage vastly drops compared to 2 handed.

>>51184113
>>51184086
Fucking Combat Medic man applied to a game I was thinking of applying to and I hope he doesn't get in.

>>51184044
Oh, just bloody go for it already. You never know.

>>51184196
So what, only the filigree is solid to the ghost? I can dig it.

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>>51184135
I like my style too!

>>51184213
I wish they had targeted that disparity instead of just making the difference look small compared to bonus damage.

>>51184226
What's this all about?

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>>51184196
>>51184242

>mfw the blade's edge is pale as milkglass - brittle to steel and stone, but cuts the phantasmal as easily as a blade through paper, tearing the ties that bind your mortal coil to the Material
>mfw it gets a bonus to unarmored targets (and those without Natural Armor bonuses) and incorporeal

>>51184242
I would but I can't get this backstory straight, and it just seems like shit compared to some of the other ones.

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So what kinda armor do you think Starfinder's gonna have?

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>>51184247

No joke, Ninetales is my favorite Pokemon out of the original 150.

They're big, fluffy, extremely intelligent and wholly devoted to the protection of you and your dynasty!

>>51184264
A guy applies to every game he can find with a gasmask wearing, colt .45 wielding combat medic.

He applied to Lazy Princess before it went down (which I heard will come back up for the Summer, by the way), and has applied to other games out there).

>>51184289
Also you slight them in a minor, very specific way and they'll curse you for a million years!

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Can I use Craft Wondrous Item to make single use items that function essentially as potions? Im looking at the rules and it looks like the cost is the same for either but that completely invalidates brew potion and neither outcome really surprises me

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>>51184281

I'm hoping for stuff like pic related, along with suits that incorporate shields and composite plating.

Ooh, and Smart Suits with onboard AIs that administer morphine when needed.

>>51184275
Don't fret so much about backstory. At least a few characters don't have much in the way of backstory at all, but they can still be fun, compelling characters.

>>51184301
You can, yes.

Craft Wondrous is the single most bloated crafting feat, covering far, FAR too much ground.

>>51184301
TECHNICALLY yes, but your GM is likely to slap you upside the head and call you a faggot, then make you take brew potion anyway.

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>>51184303
I'm gonna be honest, I just love tech armor.

>>51184324
I consider personality and stuff, backstory.

And which ones are you referring to because honestly, I don't really care for most of /pfg/'s "sweetheart" characters that much.

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Just tech stuff in general really.

>>51184352
>"sweetheart" characters

Aside from the og Kaijitsu siblings, honestly don't know who these are. Afraid to even ask, too.

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>>51184339
>>51184324

I was brushing up on crafting and I noticed it. You can also go higher than level 4 spells as well then.

Wait, is it possible to dual wield a pair of two handed firearms with Twin Thunder Stance?

>>51184339
I mean, in his defense, the game already has some 'elixirs' that are made with Craft Wondrous.

>>51184242
>only the filigree is solid to the ghost?
Yeah, that was the idea. Imagine someone waving two randomly edged, stasis-locked pieces of gold foil through your torso.
>>51184272
Though this is also terrifying.

Hmm. How well would a Red Mantis Assassin fit into Hell's Vengeance?

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I mean, even Magitek stuff is nice.

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>>51184345

Mah nigga.

>>51184402
The filgree would break before my body.

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>>51183992
>for my friends. By which I mean the people I think of as friends but never actually see outside of games.
Why say this? Just trying to make the whole thread feel bad about life?

>>51184394
Do firearms deal piercing damage? I thought it was bludgeoning.

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>>51184431
That's fuck'n sweet.

>>51184442
They deal piercing and bludgeoning.

>>51184442

It's both.

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>>51184298

I thought Ninetales will only curse you if you pull one of their tails? They're very proud of those!

Also,
>Always expect Ninetales to have some old, deep, commanding voice.
>In the anime it's high-pitched and obnoxious

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Gonna be honest, I love power armor in general. Doesn't even have to be super techy.

>>51184455
>>51184457
Baller. So yeah, should work with Piercing Thunder.

>>51184442
It's Piercing AND Bludgeoning.
Morningstars are the same.

What that means is that you use whichever one would be better against the target: If the thing has Bludgeoning Immunity but somehow takes x1.5 from a Vulnerability to Piercing, it takes x1.5. If it's got DR 10/Bludgeoning and DR 5/Piercing&Magic, then if it's not a magic weapon yet, you still bypass the DR because bludgeoning.

Its opposite is "Half and Half" which we see in the high-tech weapons such as Plasma, and in some kineticist composite blasts because fuck you kineticists. Half and Half has ALL resistances and immunities applied to the individual halves, so if you do 1d10 half-fire-half-electrical, and the guy has resist fire 5 resist electrical 5, YOU STILL DO NOTHING ON A 10.

>>51184471
Not even pulling their tails, just grabbing them.

Any essential tips for picking up Osiriani qts? My character has had a five year dry spell, and it's time to make some brownhalf-elf babies.

>>51184493
Inbuilt touch fluffy tail retribution.
Good stuff.

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What's the ideal backstory length?

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>>51184440
Only you anon. You aren't just alone, you are alone in BEING alone.

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>>51184498
Learn Ancient Osiriani.

>>51184431
Can we get this sci-fi shit out of /pfg/? Start a starfinder general or sci-fi character art thread or something.

>>51184493

Really? How is a family member and/or trainer supposed to brush their tails, then?

>>51184519

One introduction paragraph, 2-3 paragraphs that explain your story, and a concluding paragraph that establishes your character as having a reason to be involved with the campaign.

>>51184382
Casimir, Etan, Amandia, Anja, Silvia

Hi /pfg/

I'm planning a campaign and two of the players want to play monstrous races (20-30RP)

Do you guys have any good solutions for balancing high-RP races with others?

My thoughts so far:
>Remove racial features to reduce RP
>Reduce amount of points for point buy
>give weaker races more point buy
>give weaker races some free feats

>>51184519
It depends on what sort of game you're applying for, and what level you're starting off at.

If you're starting at level 1 rusty dagger shanktown, a two line sentence will do.

If you're starting at level 15 you'd best have a few paragraphs minimum.

If you're in a beer and pretzels game or a one-shot, half the backstory.

If you're in for a long run, polish the story up a bit.

>>51184550
What races do they want to play?

>>51184519

Pretty much this >>51184551

It depends on the game, the DM and the level.

>>51184550
Well, what race(s) do they want and what do the other players want? Sometimes you can just strip out some stuff until it's acceptable without fucking anything up. RP is a shitty system, though it lets you spitball it at least.

>>51184572
>>51184579

Other players haven't confirmed yet, but an ogre and a drider currently

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Any sufficiently advanced technology, right?

>>51184519
Honetly, err on the side of brevity. Three bullets describing:
-What the character's non-vague goal and purpose is (finding a goal is not a valid one, you've just made someone uninteresting so put it in the garbage)
-What the character's big weakness is as a person. You'll spend the campaign showing their strengths, the flaw is genuinely more important here than anything they're good at.
-What place and environment the character's perspective comes from

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>>51184617
Sure

>>51184699

Elf is flat! FLAT!

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>>51184714
them thighs tho

How should someone Lawful Neutral behave in a Lawful Evil society?

>>51184740

Alignments are descriptive not prescriptive.

They would behave consistently with their beliefs. Which just means they would behave Lawful Neutral.

>>51184714
Only compared to every other woman in the series.

>>>/a/152192429

It's an optical illusion created by the other women.

>>51184784

That outfit looks very uncomfortable for Cow Girl!

>>51184740
The Lawful Neutral person would behave Lawfully Neutrally, duh. If they were going to behave in any other way, they'd behave in a non-lawful or non-neutral manner.

>>51184797
She's not proficient.

>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/npc-classes/commoner

>Weapon and Armor Proficiency: The commoner is proficient with one simple weapon. He is not proficient with any other weapons, nor is he proficient with any type of armor or shield.

>>51184809

Cow Girl's a commoner?

Besides, shouldn't she be *thicker?*

>>51184537
That "sci-fi shit" IS in pathfinder. It's just so mechanically weak that you never see it used outside of iron gods even though the anus-breathing fucktards on the forums are convinced that all of it is massively overpowered.

Space stuff, aliens and energy weapons were in D&D and its derivatives even back as far as old Conan, and D&D's Greyhawk, too, but people like you always pretend to forget that while claiming that crossbows and culverins are too advanced and should be made to suck because.

>>51184816
I hope beyond all hope that starfinder gets its own General. I hate mixing scifi and fantasy. I don't forget shit, doesn't mean I have to like it.

>>51184784
No, elf is legit flat. The optical illusion is her padded bra which gives the illusion that breasts exist.

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Technosquid best squid.

>>51184917
That's fucking 40k. You're not even trying at this point.

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>>51184929
Things are whatever you want 'em to be, m8

What is a reason why an old person would start adventuring at level 1? Aside from the +2 to mental stats.

>>51184951
It literally says 'techpriest' in the filename. Go post this in a character art thread.

>>51184972
>What is a reason why an old person would start adventuring at level 1?

He or she wants to see the world before they die, or they feel they've lead a wasted life and want to leave more good in the world than they've taken out?

>>51184972
Level drain.

>>51184972
Maybe because his grandkids don't think that digging up potatoes is that cool or interesting. Or he's gonna go on a grand adventure to prove to his kids that farming potatoes for a living is a perfectly valid lifestyle choice.

>>51184998

Im not actually a huge fan of the level drain/amnesia/alzheimers trope.

>>51184985
>>51185009

This could work. Showing up the whippersnappers after they have all left the nest.

>>51184876
Pathfinder is already sci-fi.
Elder Gods from outer space
Robots
Plasma cannons
Steamtech
Tanks
Chem Troopers
Combat Drugs
Power-Armor
and so on.

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>>51184889
Padded?

>>51185025
Elder gods being from space doesn't make them sci-fi. They're horror fantasy. Sci-fi is an aesthetic and that all depends on how you present them. Inevitables are primarily fantasy rather than robots because of their aesthetic. You could characterize all constructs as robots but they're powered by magic and they're simplistic (except inevitables but they're outsiders anyway).

>>51185107
That's one out of that list. And not constructs, actual robots.

ITT: someone whines that genres are hard rules and they must never ever mix or touch one another. Just like how you should never let his potatoes touch his peas or meat.

>get back from work
>look at the new apps on the Hell's Vengeance R20 LFP
>realize my choco elf wouldn't fit in with the rest as I originally thought him up
Hmmm. I either need to rewrite him completely or put him in as some sort of "can love bloom in a lawful evil adventuring party?" joke character.

>>51185128
You focused on the first thing I said and not the latter. Magic can produce all that shit but you can still call them sci-fi shit if you want to shoehorn your garbage into it.

>plasma cannons
Spells and magic items
>steamtech
Not sci-fi
>tanks
Powered by gasoline? (Also, on golarion and not earth?)
>Chem troopers
Alchemists
>combat drugs
Potions
>power armor
Magic armor

>>51185193
The person was saying that all that shit's already in Golarion. And it is.